I have been running these tires for a year now on a 27.5" trail orientated hardtail... at first through a wettish spring then on to a really dry hard-packed summer and then the wettest uk winter for a long time. these tires did it all well and I never felt like I needed more grip, they roll well for a tire of this tread pattern as they are CHONKERS, the fronts side knobs are like an inch and a half tall! and they don't seem to clog up too badly unless it's really claggy as all out! I have been running tubeless since October on 27mm internal rims...BUT before that I was using tubes...At first they sucked and knew it was pressure related as I was being conservative as I did not want any form of snake bite as I ride hard and love to jump the living daylights out my hardtail on most trails, rode some urban and smashed some stairs both up and down, forgot I had tubes in for a while and as the bike was feeling better and better I just left the psi where it was at, forward a month or so and I decided to actually check tire psi, with maxxis lightweight tubes I was at 13 psi rear and 11 front. I have never had a single tire get that low with a tube before and fully do not understand how I did not get a snakebite but it didn't (and not from lack of trying trust me), whatever they make these sidewalls from are tough as old boots that's for sure, been over a LOT of bramble branches with killer thorns and not 1 puncture even with tubes. seat really well on my rims too. My new all round UK tire for 90% of conditions. Amazing things give em a try you won't be disappointed and now they come in 29" too (could only get 27.5 when I first got em)
@@Happy_Shopper @Joe Breakwell I have the same tires (but 29er) and I can tell you they roll suprisingly well I took a 22 mile ride on a well maintained dirt road and had no problem what so ever with "bad roll". They roll great on asphalt to but because the big grippy "Rubber pigs" I tend to only use them on car roads if I have to, feels like you wear out the middle part to much When you roll on really flat surface.
This was literally our first look at the tyres. Puncture protection has been pretty impressive since this first look. At this moment in time there is still no UK price.
I think you got that wrong magix is softer in the top layer and more rigid in the lower layers. I dont think they changed much compared to the older compounds. Gumx is harder and better rolling, reason why it is used in the rear. Very confusing marketing.
run wildrockr2 magix front wildAM in rear best compination I hope this enduro its lighter than wildrockr2 1150gr in 29wheel.... but gripiest tyre I have ever use...
Darksoul channel yes wild rockr2 is my favourite front tire. It out minions a minion. Better rubber. Better sidewall and way better cornering edge knobs. Not a fast roller though. I’m running a wild enduro rear on the back now. Still lots of edge but rolls quicker
It is fine on mine-WTB STi-25 with true 2,4" Geax Goma. 25 inner would probably take bigger happily. Let's not forget that only recently people started to consider rim widths, and the market started promoting wider ones. Before that no one cared if they put 2,4" on a 20mm rim. I'm buying a new bike with rims for 2,3-2,6" tyres (according to marketing materials, and 2,6" nobby nic stock tyres) and the rims have 32mm inner, 38mm outer width. Though the bike is marketed for 2,8 with ease and 3,0 as the absolute max, so I guess they prepped for rider messing around with larger sizes. But as I said, I run 2,4" on i-25 with tubes and no problems. 1 puncture in 2000km season. 3k total, but tyres been swapped sometime at the beginning of the season.
There are two different compound choices for the Wild Enduro Front - either Magi-X² or Gum-X. The Magi-X² compound is the harder of the two, although, somewhat confusingly, Michelin say that it offers more grip at higher speeds than the Gum-X rubber.
@@MrJangojet yeh basically Michelin went the other way? with the harder front recommendation Magi x and softer rear Gum x .. and differentiated in terms of speed rather than following the bike industry. Who am I to argue when Sam Hill uses them :D
27.5 only!?!?!?! Well, did my duty here. I'm going to head over to some Corvette vids and complain about the lack of a carburetor as a choice. WHAT!!! NO DRUM BRAKE OPTIONS!?!?!
GRPABT1 - Read the media release: www.michelin.com/eng/content/download/21001/480472/version/4/file/MICHELIN-DP+VTT+NOUVEAUTE%C2%A6%C3%BC+2018+GB.pdf "Riders can choose between two rubber compound options depending on their personal skill level. Thanks to its new MAGI-X² compound, the MAGI-X version targets experienced riders and experts due to the outstanding grip it delivers at speed, under braking and when leaning, irrespective of the conditions (dry, wet) and in hot and cold weather alike. The alternative GUM-X front provides maximum enjoyment in complete safety thanks to its first class grip and carefully-balanced performance which make it ideal for riders of all levels. The latest-generation GUM-X3D rubber compound ensures a more flexible construction for greater stability under cornering and to cover a wide variety of terrain types, in summer or winter alike. The GUM-X3D compound was selected for certain EWS events that did not call for the MAGI-X² compound."
d r - "flexibile construction" does seem to validate the video, although it could mean different casing construction. None of this would be confusing if tire manufacturers agreed on uniform measurements and gave actual durometer/shore measures.
The shore durometer is still softer in the Magi-X. Calling the Gum-X softer is misleading. They still recommend everywhere, (including that media release) to run Magi-X on the front. I have a pair of Magi-X and Gum-X tyres on one of my bikes and if you think Gum-X is softer you're just plain wrong.
My understanding is that the Magi-X2 is harder in some cases when compared to the original Magi-X but can stiffen or soften with certain frequencies kind of like D3O. The presenter of this video forgot to mention perhaps the most interesting aspect of these new tire combinations in that the front tire has a 60 tpi lighter, more flexible casing and the rear tire has a 30 tpi stiffer/stronger casing with additional sidewall support. I like how Michelin is starting to get more specific with the usage scenarios of the front and rear but I don't like that they're still very heavy which makes them totally inappropriate for those using tire inserts like Cushcore. I hope they make some new 2.4 or 2.5 size tires with the "TrailShield" casings to minimize the weight. I know they have another prototype tread pattern in the works that looks like the Magic Mary which I have high hopes for.
I have been running these tires for a year now on a 27.5" trail orientated hardtail...
at first through a wettish spring then on to a really dry hard-packed summer and then the wettest uk winter for a long time. these tires did it all well and I never felt like I needed more grip, they roll well for a tire of this tread pattern as they are CHONKERS, the fronts side knobs are like an inch and a half tall! and they don't seem to clog up too badly unless it's really claggy as all out! I have been running tubeless since October on 27mm internal rims...BUT before that I was using tubes...At first they sucked and knew it was pressure related as I was being conservative as I did not want any form of snake bite as I ride hard and love to jump the living daylights out my hardtail on most trails, rode some urban and smashed some stairs both up and down, forgot I had tubes in for a while and as the bike was feeling better and better I just left the psi where it was at, forward a month or so and I decided to actually check tire psi, with maxxis lightweight tubes I was at 13 psi rear and 11 front.
I have never had a single tire get that low with a tube before and fully do not understand how I did not get a snakebite but it didn't (and not from lack of trying trust me), whatever they make these sidewalls from are tough as old boots that's for sure, been over a LOT of bramble branches with killer thorns and not 1 puncture even with tubes. seat really well on my rims too.
My new all round UK tire for 90% of conditions. Amazing things give em a try you won't be disappointed and now they come in 29" too (could only get 27.5 when I first got em)
Can you tell me how they roll?
@@Happy_Shopper @Joe Breakwell I have the same tires (but 29er) and I can tell you they roll suprisingly well
I took a 22 mile ride on a well maintained dirt road and had no problem what so ever with "bad roll". They roll great on asphalt to but because the big grippy "Rubber pigs" I tend to only use them on car roads if I have to, feels like you wear out the middle part to much When you roll on really flat surface.
Price? Weight? Puncture resistance? How do they compare to other tyres? Not one of mbrs best videos imo. There's not enough information.
This was literally our first look at the tyres. Puncture protection has been pretty impressive since this first look. At this moment in time there is still no UK price.
Looking forward to the 26" version
I think you got that wrong magix is softer in the top layer and more rigid in the lower layers. I dont think they changed much compared to the older compounds. Gumx is harder and better rolling, reason why it is used in the rear. Very confusing marketing.
Best ever tyres I've ever used .
Overall wonderful bike!!
Hey bro what`s that bike in the background? Is it available in carbon?
Is it available for 29" ?
run wildrockr2 magix front
wildAM in rear best compination
I hope this enduro its lighter than wildrockr2 1150gr in 29wheel.... but gripiest tyre I have ever use...
The Wildrockr2 is a brilliant tyre
Darksoul channel yes wild rockr2 is my favourite front tire. It out minions a minion. Better rubber. Better sidewall and way better cornering edge knobs. Not a fast roller though. I’m running a wild enduro rear on the back now. Still lots of edge but rolls quicker
man, that hideous music...
Best review of this tyre
Anyone know these compare to WTB stuff ? Vigilante on the front , trail boss on the back is my favorite combo at this stage .
Music is beyond annoying 😪
When I put 2,4" tire on my wheels, what inner width should my rims have? Does 25mm of inner will be fine?
It is fine on mine-WTB STi-25 with true 2,4" Geax Goma. 25 inner would probably take bigger happily. Let's not forget that only recently people started to consider rim widths, and the market started promoting wider ones. Before that no one cared if they put 2,4" on a 20mm rim. I'm buying a new bike with rims for 2,3-2,6" tyres (according to marketing materials, and 2,6" nobby nic stock tyres) and the rims have 32mm inner, 38mm outer width. Though the bike is marketed for 2,8 with ease and 3,0 as the absolute max, so I guess they prepped for rider messing around with larger sizes. But as I said, I run 2,4" on i-25 with tubes and no problems. 1 puncture in 2000km season. 3k total, but tyres been swapped sometime at the beginning of the season.
Polish guy with hard to spell name ;-p dzięki
Zwykle nie czytam imion ;-) Też mam na imię Maciek, ha ha ha
It doesn't really matter, but anywhere between 25 and 30mm would be a good choice.
5 months later Im waiting for 29er version...
Misleading... Gum x is the harder compound for rear use, and Magi x softer more compliant front.
There are two different compound choices for the Wild Enduro Front - either Magi-X² or Gum-X. The Magi-X² compound is the harder of the two, although, somewhat confusingly, Michelin say that it offers more grip at higher speeds than the Gum-X rubber.
@@MrJangojet yeh basically Michelin went the other way? with the harder front recommendation Magi x and softer rear Gum x .. and differentiated in terms of speed rather than following the bike industry. Who am I to argue when Sam Hill uses them :D
No 26 ?
Are they loud on tarmac ?
Not as loud as DHR2's
What’s pricing like on these?
£40 ish to £50
27.5 only!?!?!?! Well, did my duty here. I'm going to head over to some Corvette vids and complain about the lack of a carburetor as a choice.
WHAT!!! NO DRUM BRAKE OPTIONS!?!?!
It’s Jamie Nicoll.
maxxis👌
Depending on how you ride look no further than high roller 2 minions and aggressors imo
You have this ass backwards. The Magi-X is softer than the Gum-X
GRPABT1 - Read the media release: www.michelin.com/eng/content/download/21001/480472/version/4/file/MICHELIN-DP+VTT+NOUVEAUTE%C2%A6%C3%BC+2018+GB.pdf
"Riders can choose between two rubber compound options depending on their personal skill level. Thanks to its new MAGI-X² compound, the MAGI-X version targets experienced riders and experts due to the outstanding grip it delivers at speed, under braking and when leaning, irrespective of the conditions (dry, wet) and in hot and cold weather alike.
The alternative GUM-X front provides maximum enjoyment in complete safety thanks to its first class grip and carefully-balanced performance which make it ideal for riders of all levels. The latest-generation GUM-X3D rubber compound ensures a more flexible construction for greater stability under cornering and to cover a wide variety of terrain types, in summer or winter alike. The GUM-X3D compound was selected
for certain EWS events that did not call for the MAGI-X² compound."
d r - "flexibile construction" does seem to validate the video, although it could mean different casing construction. None of this would be confusing if tire manufacturers agreed on uniform measurements and gave actual durometer/shore measures.
The shore durometer is still softer in the Magi-X. Calling the Gum-X softer is misleading. They still recommend everywhere, (including that media release) to run Magi-X on the front. I have a pair of Magi-X and Gum-X tyres on one of my bikes and if you think Gum-X is softer you're just plain wrong.
My understanding is that the Magi-X2 is harder in some cases when compared to the original Magi-X but can stiffen or soften with certain frequencies kind of like D3O. The presenter of this video forgot to mention perhaps the most interesting aspect of these new tire combinations in that the front tire has a 60 tpi lighter, more flexible casing and the rear tire has a 30 tpi stiffer/stronger casing with additional sidewall support. I like how Michelin is starting to get more specific with the usage scenarios of the front and rear but I don't like that they're still very heavy which makes them totally inappropriate for those using tire inserts like Cushcore. I hope they make some new 2.4 or 2.5 size tires with the "TrailShield" casings to minimize the weight. I know they have another prototype tread pattern in the works that looks like the Magic Mary which I have high hopes for.
Only 2,4 pfff
Some people like going fast, any bigger volume and tires get wobbly and weird at higher speeds.
Loretai Mods 2.4 Michelin is equal to a 2.55 maxxis. Best tires out atm
What a shit tyres y try today a par of those don’t buy that shit.