I don’t know man. They could put themselves to sleep so wouldn’t have to deal with the fear. Unprotected warp jumping though could lead to an eternity of torment.
Depending on how much you believe the alpharius primarch book many of those assets were used in the attack on pluto. So it’s unclear how many if any remain but they did have marines buried in the palace 100%
I like the idea that they killed and ate each other one at a time over the course of 10,000 years until now there's only a single starving demon of hunger left.
Apparently the troop compartment of the drill was so compact that they were pressed in like sardines. Their own bulky armour making it impossible to even sit down or raise an arm to shoot themselves. They’ve just been standing there for ten thousand years.
Space marines can indefinitely survive without food and water so all of them are still down there unless one of them went like insane over hunger and was killed or killed
@@burp7542Pretty sure they're Dead over the course of Ten thousand years, considering Astartes biology is still Limited at most, and their Power armor is likely to degrade and out of power to not being capable to support their lives without proper maintenance
If they're still alive they should dig them up one at a time for the Custodes blood games. It would give the Custodes a chance to train against real Astartes and they probably have a wealth of valuable Heresy-era tech to study. It would be a fitting final humiliation for the traitors, to wait millennia only to find out they lost the war, their dad is dead, and they've been reduced to fodder for a training exercise. The Custodes might even have fun, if they're capable of that.
Dude there’s no way that they’re still in fighting condition. Even if they went into hibernation, they’ve been standing in place, not moving or eating or drinking for ten thousand years. If they are still alive, and that’s a big if, then their muscles must be so atrophied that they’ll have to be carried out and nursed back to health before they’re ready to fight anyone, if they can ever fight again.
@@battlekid6177 I assume most of them are dead and mummified. But 40k is grim dark, so you know that there must be the odd especially resilient marine who’s still alive. Aged, dried out, decrepit, occasionally slipping out of long periods of slumber to wheeze and cough with dry lungs from cracked lips. There’s no light but his eyes dried out and shrivelled up in his skull long ago anyways. He can’t even speak to ask if anyone else is still alive. Just a living mummy that’s forgotten to die.
I imagine there'd be alot of boarding torpedoes launched by the losing side, that can't be retrieved after battle, just coasting on sublight until they run into something.
At least with those, if they missed then the marines inside could still get out. Then they would have to contend with being a human sized object, floating unpowered through the void of space, with the hope that someone, somewhere, would spot them.
“Look at me, Loken! See what I am! I am made mighty beyond all measure by the warp! I am transfigured and ascendant! I am a god, boy, a mighty god, and gods do not make mistakes!” - Horus to Garviel Loken during the final battle against the Emperor -
They are probably long dead, they are just underground and how powerful the astartes may be they are not immortal. Look at dante, the traitors there would be like 6.5 times older. They could have also killed each other right, or was there like no space to move
It's unclear as to exactly how long an Astartes can live for really. It's said many times in the books that they are functionally immortal as they can only die from physical wounds, they supposedly can't die from old age. Dante's aged and weary appearance is largely down to over a 1000 years of constant war and injuries. I imagine if an Astartes maybe took up gardening and doing crossword puzzles he might be able to tick along indefinitely.
The Salamanders once found a survivor of the Drop Site Massacre in late M40. He was alive, but paralyzed and in constant agony due to age. So, while yes, it is possible that they could still be alive, they would likely be combat ineffective.
That the Space Marines are functionally immortal (from aging) seems to have been retconned in later lore. That said, how quickly they age seems to depend on how exactly the gene seed effects their body, its not consistent, they seem to age at different rates. So it's probably not impossible that a space marine could survive and still be fit for combat after 10,000 years (assuming they had food and stuff they need, space marine armor can recycle a lot, but it has limits), but the vast majority would likely not survive such a timespan. That is without involving the warp.
Loved it there was a Horus Heresy short story about the Iron Hands whre they basicly put the dead of istvan alive again by making them even more robot than they even where
Wasn’t there a space marine from the heresy who was found by 40k marines who was bound to a chair on a disabled ship? If I remember correctly he was “alive” but his body was on its last legs so the marines gave him mercy kill. Wouldn’t these guys also be on their last leg and be close to death?
I think if you are interested in what a VERY old space marine can be, fully functional, I recommend reading books where Barabas Dantioch is told, or at least mentioned. During the Crusade, he fought with the Hurds who can manipulate the entropy of time itself, fortifications and fortresses that could have stood for millennia collapsed in a matter of days, and during the battles in the tunnels, Dantioch barely survived such an attack, being a fairly young space marine. Also, according to some rumors, the last Thunder Warrior is the head of Terra's criminal underworld, which could mean that he is over 10,000 years old, but this is not certain.
« How long can you astartes stay alive in those conditions? » asked the technopriest. « Why » asked back Goshen « Thats how long you will stay in there » And nothing was ever said again about them
Great video, they are most likely alive. A salamander captain, Gravius, "survived" to the 41st millennium after his ship crashed. Im assuming he used his sus-an membrane too.
This was such a creepy moment in the siege of terra books. Great adaptation of it. Just one thing to note is that the heresy/siege of terra events occur in M31 not M30.
Amazing video can’t wait until you have the time to do longer forms. The background images are extremely under rated. If you keep this up you’ll be the biggest 40k channel guaranteed. Nobody’s doing it like this.
Considering Rylanor survived 10,000 years isolated and alone, and was still in fighting condition afterwards then it's possible these Marines survived too.
@@adventurer3288 - Dreadnought need maintenence just like power armor does. In fact, Dreadnought need a lot more maintenance and repair. Ryalor say in the same spot for 10,000 years.
There also might be a chance that they could have game ended there selves sense they can seemingly controlled there organs like how that one raven guard sergeant pushed both his hearts to cardiac arrest
since were in a grimdark universe, my prediction is that the pods each contain a single chaos champion. After thousands of years, one marine forcibly woke from the induced sleep when he hit the actual starvation point for a space marine and started to die. in a desperate, blind frenzy, he consumed the nearest edible things. so there aren't 50 marines down there, theres 1 to each pod and he's completely insane from consuming the whole squad to survive(think about the memory organ they have, they would be messed up). Idk which chaos god this would fall under, the anger of the surviving marine points to khorne, but the sheer stagnation of the situation almost sounds like a new facet of nurgle. there's always tzeentch claiming it if the marine wasn't in a blind rage when he awoke but still ate. as usual, worst possibility is slaanesh, maybe he wanted to only eat one but got addicted to the memories of his brothers.
I'm pretty sure they can't move at all since people have already said they are cramped tight on there like sardines unable to even lift they're own bolters
I've thought about this many times since I first heard it. The interior space would have to be so cramped that the space marines wouldn't even be able to move their arms as it's been shown in lore that space marines are able to punch their way through concrete/rockrete and steel. Given enough time they should have conceivably have been able to slowly punch and crumble their way out, and all they have is time.
We can assume that more than 90% of them would die because the Sus-an membrane isn't reliable and the most extreme survided 10,000 years, but most perish before 500 years during this type of stasis, but man... that 10% ish is gonna be pissed. I hope this gets expanded on later. :D
A game where some unknown force (emperor, chaos or anything else) frees these soldiers but leaves only one alive as the main character would be pretty bad ass.
Fyi, the amour partte used in the 3d animation part this video is mark X tactical amour (look at the helm and power pack )which is not lore acurrate. since the mk X was created in the 41 milienium, 10,000 years after the events of horus heresy
In the book the machinicum techpriest with them has a conversation and learns out they are functionally immortal. My head cannon is that they’re still down there clawing their way out. I know this tidbit will never be mentioned again but I’d love for them to like breakout in modern to day and like try to get their way off terra would be cool
there is another space marine that considering oldest space marine alive ever. he is salamadar but he took mercy angel shot before planet lead into doom.
The idea is terrifying luckily they have the deep invernation option so they can literally sleep through it which means that either if they die down there invernating or they make it out somehow it wouldn't feel like an eternity for them, but damn...
Also they used a logitech controller to drive the drill. Crazy...
Hey, atleast it didn't immidietly implode. 🤣
Peak joke!
Ah yes ancient pre dark age relic, the logitech controller
I don’t know man. They could put themselves to sleep so wouldn’t have to deal with the fear. Unprotected warp jumping though could lead to an eternity of torment.
Lmao
God i fucking love warhammer scale “just a small drill” *holds fifty space marines and would be fucking ginormous*
In the sheer scale of the battle. It would’ve been a tiny vehicle in one small area
That's actually insane, tons of traitors right at the door step but unable to move
You use unnecessary words to appear more intelligent😂
@@nathanworthington4451 Most people using that emoji have the brain capacity of a goldfish. Your comment just proves that.
@@user-zg5ey5xo9i fish have the brain capacity to use emojis?
@@nathanworthington4451the type of guy to have no friends just a crusty keyboard and a microwave
@@vielplaysdagames2298 a keyboard AND a microwave?! Wowwwwww!
There's a whole bunch of Alpha Legionnaires under the imperial palace in suspended animation as well
I've heard of this, but i haven't looked into it properly yet!
Depending on how much you believe the alpharius primarch book many of those assets were used in the attack on pluto. So it’s unclear how many if any remain but they did have marines buried in the palace 100%
yeah it was a thing in one of the horus heresy books.
Apparently one was the 'real' Alpharius, if you believe it.
@@KingLich451 ALEGEDLY, goddamit alpharius
So what are you down here for?
Tried to drill under the Saturnine Wall, you?
No idea.
I like the idea that they killed and ate each other one at a time over the course of 10,000 years until now there's only a single starving demon of hunger left.
Apparently the troop compartment of the drill was so compact that they were pressed in like sardines. Their own bulky armour making it impossible to even sit down or raise an arm to shoot themselves. They’ve just been standing there for ten thousand years.
@@Saurophaganax1931 There aren't enough real, or made up languages to depict just how pissed off I would be at standing for over 10 thousand years.
@@Charison22 I image you’d go through all five stages of grief, several thousand times over.
Space marines can indefinitely survive without food and water so all of them are still down there unless one of them went like insane over hunger and was killed or killed
@@burp7542Pretty sure they're Dead over the course of Ten thousand years, considering Astartes biology is still Limited at most, and their Power armor is likely to degrade and out of power to not being capable to support their lives without proper maintenance
The way this is presented is like a horror disaster documentary, which is equally horrifying as it is goofy
who is watching this in the 41,000 millenia, thumbs up
If they're still alive they should dig them up one at a time for the Custodes blood games. It would give the Custodes a chance to train against real Astartes and they probably have a wealth of valuable Heresy-era tech to study. It would be a fitting final humiliation for the traitors, to wait millennia only to find out they lost the war, their dad is dead, and they've been reduced to fodder for a training exercise. The Custodes might even have fun, if they're capable of that.
Its literal plassteel, no digging through that safely. Like 40% of his best trapped
@@LukeD-st4xu Its the Imperium, who cares about safety. Just send in more servitors and a bigass mining laser.
Dude there’s no way that they’re still in fighting condition. Even if they went into hibernation, they’ve been standing in place, not moving or eating or drinking for ten thousand years. If they are still alive, and that’s a big if, then their muscles must be so atrophied that they’ll have to be carried out and nursed back to health before they’re ready to fight anyone, if they can ever fight again.
@@Saurophaganax1931 there is on doubt in my mined that they are broken men
@@battlekid6177 I assume most of them are dead and mummified. But 40k is grim dark, so you know that there must be the odd especially resilient marine who’s still alive. Aged, dried out, decrepit, occasionally slipping out of long periods of slumber to wheeze and cough with dry lungs from cracked lips. There’s no light but his eyes dried out and shrivelled up in his skull long ago anyways. He can’t even speak to ask if anyone else is still alive. Just a living mummy that’s forgotten to die.
Brilliant move. This turned the space marines biggest advantages into their worst punishment.
I imagine there'd be alot of boarding torpedoes launched by the losing side, that can't be retrieved after battle, just coasting on sublight until they run into something.
That would be an awesome idea for a book.
At least with those, if they missed then the marines inside could still get out. Then they would have to contend with being a human sized object, floating unpowered through the void of space, with the hope that someone, somewhere, would spot them.
@@Gorbz that’s fine for a Primarch, less so for a regular astartes.
They mention this in the expanse, in space you better hit what your aiming at cuz eventually you will hit something.
Imagine emerging from your salt drill into a whole different world like necrons.
Mmmm salt drill
@@Laid2Rest94 I assumed that's what they're called.
@@zadeify9596I think they are “assault drills”
@@Blackwatch8800 could be. Sounded like salt and I liked the name.
@@zadeify9596 bruh
Now this is grim dark. Just listening to this is causing me anxiety
"captain! Leanidos farted!"
"god dammit! How many times do I have to tell you that we can't get the stink out!?"
I think i would rather warp jump without the Geller Field then deal with that kind of nightmarish claustrophobia.
Your suit has a boat load of drugs to keep you happy
Tightest packed sausage fest party until you die.
I think id rather be eaten alive then warp jump without a gellar field
@@bobdrooples Sounds like something the Emperor’s children would enjoy.
@@kikkpod5887 The boyz didn’t seem to mind. In fact i heard it’s inflight entertainment for them.
Nah, in this situation you can still off yourself and end the day. If you are in the warp death would not solve anything.
They could also pray to the chaos gods as a last resort.
Traitors, buried alive? gives tune to the phrase "The emperor Protects" SNAPS FINGERS*
“Look at me, Loken! See what I am! I am made mighty beyond all measure by the warp! I am transfigured and ascendant! I am a god, boy, a mighty god, and gods do not make mistakes!”
- Horus to Garviel Loken during the final battle against the Emperor -
They are probably long dead, they are just underground and how powerful the astartes may be they are not immortal. Look at dante, the traitors there would be like 6.5 times older. They could have also killed each other right, or was there like no space to move
It's unclear as to exactly how long an Astartes can live for really. It's said many times in the books that they are functionally immortal as they can only die from physical wounds, they supposedly can't die from old age. Dante's aged and weary appearance is largely down to over a 1000 years of constant war and injuries. I imagine if an Astartes maybe took up gardening and doing crossword puzzles he might be able to tick along indefinitely.
@@quigonlynn1 Not being able to die from old age does not mean your body doesn't need sustenance.
The Salamanders once found a survivor of the Drop Site Massacre in late M40. He was alive, but paralyzed and in constant agony due to age. So, while yes, it is possible that they could still be alive, they would likely be combat ineffective.
Aaaaand that suspended animation state he mentioned in the video could make all the difference.
That the Space Marines are functionally immortal (from aging) seems to have been retconned in later lore. That said, how quickly they age seems to depend on how exactly the gene seed effects their body, its not consistent, they seem to age at different rates. So it's probably not impossible that a space marine could survive and still be fit for combat after 10,000 years (assuming they had food and stuff they need, space marine armor can recycle a lot, but it has limits), but the vast majority would likely not survive such a timespan.
That is without involving the warp.
I remember the TV show Heroes. There was a character whose power was immortality, not able to kill him, they buried him alive. Fate worse than death.
Tightly packed sausage fest would be fine while your suit still had a decent supply of combat stims.
I might be cooked but this was one of the darkest and funniest parts of the book for me.
Animation of the marines with the rumbling of drill was top notch
The claustrophobia would drive me insane
Loved it there was a Horus Heresy short story about the Iron Hands whre they basicly put the dead of istvan alive again by making them even more robot than they even where
Wasn’t there a space marine from the heresy who was found by 40k marines who was bound to a chair on a disabled ship? If I remember correctly he was “alive” but his body was on its last legs so the marines gave him mercy kill. Wouldn’t these guys also be on their last leg and be close to death?
Pretty much
I think if you are interested in what a VERY old space marine can be, fully functional, I recommend reading books where Barabas Dantioch is told, or at least mentioned.
During the Crusade, he fought with the Hurds who can manipulate the entropy of time itself, fortifications and fortresses that could have stood for millennia collapsed in a matter of days, and during the battles in the tunnels, Dantioch barely survived such an attack, being a fairly young space marine.
Also, according to some rumors, the last Thunder Warrior is the head of Terra's criminal underworld, which could mean that he is over 10,000 years old, but this is not certain.
just tell the mechanicus they are down there ... they might destroy the imperial palace to get at their tech
Plot twist. Theres currently a void there and Trazyn has a new prop for a display he's been thinking about
*Cue the Circus music...*
There are also some salamaders somewhere underground under the caucasus mountains iirc
If I was buried alive for 10.000 years, I would send a formal complaint !!!
If I were Cpt Goshen I think I'd just roar "SHIT IT!" then overload my backpack's reactor core, vaporising me and my squad in a nuclear fireball.
Plot twist they are now loyalist as chaos abandoned them while the emporer protects.
I had always LOVED what the the dark mech preist asked...."How long does your kind live for?"....OOOOF
By the throne, great story telling and animation. INSTANTLY SUBBED
The Emperor protects.
« How long can you astartes stay alive in those conditions? » asked the technopriest.
« Why » asked back Goshen
« Thats how long you will stay in there »
And nothing was ever said again about them
I don't play Warhammer games but the lore.. oh the lore..
Drill animation was really well done
"How long do your kind live, Captain? Because that is how long you will be down here for."
Great video, they are most likely alive. A salamander captain, Gravius, "survived" to the 41st millennium after his ship crashed. Im assuming he used his sus-an membrane too.
Reminds of the stories of cave divers getting trapped and unable to escape. Love your storytelling
This is great! With stuff this high quality you're bound to blow up soon. Interesting premise, good visuals, high quality narration, and good pacing!
I really like how you made this like a military documentary
"What was it like being buried alive for 10,000 years?"
"I was enjoying it 'til you showed up"
There's also a whole lot of Justaerin Terminators from Sons of Horus
I wonder if the genestealers will ever find those drills if they keep tunneling underneath Terra
50 brain dead marines being eaten alive by jeanstealers is peak warhammer
Love your story telling. Feels like a true crime or seconds before disaster episode.
This was such a creepy moment in the siege of terra books. Great adaptation of it. Just one thing to note is that the heresy/siege of terra events occur in M31 not M30.
A fate worse than death.. I’d imagine they chose a Bolter shell death instead..
Iirc it's so cramped down there they can't even move to raise a bolter, so
They should’ve stayed loyal then
Amazing video can’t wait until you have the time to do longer forms. The background images are extremely under rated. If you keep this up you’ll be the biggest 40k channel guaranteed. Nobody’s doing it like this.
Traitor Marines buried and asleep for 10.000 years.
Abdaziel Magron of the Dark Angels: "Losers!"
If they were all able to survive until the current setting and escape their imprisonment then they would be greeted by custodes and get wrecked.
This story, just has me by the balls, so many questions for a simple fate. Lov it
I think they forgot they had acid spit. Unless it cant melt their armor...
Great content bro, hope you make more
Imagine trapped for 10k years in a Gym locker💀💀
Considering Rylanor survived 10,000 years isolated and alone, and was still in fighting condition afterwards then it's possible these Marines survived too.
He was in a dreadnought though
@@adventurer3288 - Dreadnought need maintenence just like power armor does. In fact, Dreadnought need a lot more maintenance and repair. Ryalor say in the same spot for 10,000 years.
There also might be a chance that they could have game ended there selves sense they can seemingly controlled there organs like how that one raven guard sergeant pushed both his hearts to cardiac arrest
"buried alive for 10000 years" sounds like a heavy metal song title
since were in a grimdark universe, my prediction is that the pods each contain a single chaos champion. After thousands of years, one marine forcibly woke from the induced sleep when he hit the actual starvation point for a space marine and started to die. in a desperate, blind frenzy, he consumed the nearest edible things. so there aren't 50 marines down there, theres 1 to each pod and he's completely insane from consuming the whole squad to survive(think about the memory organ they have, they would be messed up).
Idk which chaos god this would fall under, the anger of the surviving marine points to khorne, but the sheer stagnation of the situation almost sounds like a new facet of nurgle. there's always tzeentch claiming it if the marine wasn't in a blind rage when he awoke but still ate.
as usual, worst possibility is slaanesh, maybe he wanted to only eat one but got addicted to the memories of his brothers.
Imagine the bitterness. They'd belong to Malice.
@@imperatorvegetarius true. That specific situation would probably make you hostile to everything else
I'm pretty sure they can't move at all since people have already said they are cramped tight on there like sardines unable to even lift they're own bolters
Lev Goshen: "hurr Hurr! even in dirt, we serve the emperor"
Voxcast from Istvaan: "amateurs..."
Lev Ghoshen: "wtf did you say?"
Raylanor: "AMATUERS!"
That drill is massive
You need a big piece to penetrate a deep hole
They should dig em up. Plenty of good battle plate in there.
I've thought about this many times since I first heard it. The interior space would have to be so cramped that the space marines wouldn't even be able to move their arms as it's been shown in lore that space marines are able to punch their way through concrete/rockrete and steel. Given enough time they should have conceivably have been able to slowly punch and crumble their way out, and all they have is time.
And no one bothered to dig under the palace to check.
Didn't most of them unalived themselves the moment they found out?
We can assume that more than 90% of them would die because the Sus-an membrane isn't reliable and the most extreme survided 10,000 years, but most perish before 500 years during this type of stasis, but man... that 10% ish is gonna be pissed.
I hope this gets expanded on later. :D
this part always fucked me up in saturnine
The best wall is a liquid wall. -Rogal Dorn
Amazing my storytelling well done
I would love toe see the next time a deamon invasion happens on terra to somehow unearth those old dudes
That thing is huge?!? Why is everyone standing on the ground? They could fir in at least 5 more floors?
Wh40k's oceangate
A game where some unknown force (emperor, chaos or anything else) frees these soldiers but leaves only one alive as the main character would be pretty bad ass.
Great animation/slideshow
Watch the writers pull a Trayzin "rescue" or a warp time travel like the reformed fallen.
I wouldn't wish this fate upon my worst enemy.
The traitors are Your worst enemy.
Soooooo, I spy.....anyone?!?!
**Bolter fire intensifies**
I cant move, and I must advance
Funny I was thinking about this as I was going to sleep yesterday now it is in my feed
excellent story telling, I wonder if they will ever dig them out?
Fyi, the amour partte used in the 3d animation part this video is mark X tactical amour (look at the helm and power pack )which is not lore acurrate. since the mk X was created in the 41 milienium, 10,000 years after the events of horus heresy
I think this is Mk4 "Maximus" pattern power armor
@@user_perduzer228 the power pack is 100% from Mk X
Someone get me a shovel
I still wonder will they be found. They are now in their space marine sleep and armor is keeping them alive.
In the book the machinicum techpriest with them has a conversation and learns out they are functionally immortal. My head cannon is that they’re still down there clawing their way out. I know this tidbit will never be mentioned again but I’d love for them to like breakout in modern to day and like try to get their way off terra would be cool
there is another space marine that considering oldest space marine alive ever. he is salamadar but he took mercy angel shot before planet lead into doom.
There might still be one alive if they resorted to canibalism.
dont really have anything to say, just want to boost your algorithm - keep it up man
The idea is terrifying luckily they have the deep invernation option so they can literally sleep through it which means that either if they die down there invernating or they make it out somehow it wouldn't feel like an eternity for them, but damn...
Hey dawg, nice video dawg, bye dawg.
"Well, into stasis i go"
'Khaaaarn! KHAAAAARN!'
They could have slowly dug themselves out with 10k years
great story!
these marines are a chekhovs gun, they need to become relevant to the current story in some way
GHATDAYUM THAT SUCKS!!
Captain!
Where's the oxygen?
This feels like a Plainly Difficult video.
At least they didn’t use a ps2 controller like the titanic submarine
Bro your voice makes you sound like you're trapped in one of these drills desperate to conserve oxygen xD
Kinda surprised the Space Marines don't have a suicide switch
That would probably become a weakness real fast
A traitors fate,The folly of puppets arrayed against their own brethren