My favorite description of being an Imperial Citizen was something along the lines of "Not having any sort of badge of office, gang-symbol or other sign of ownership on your person is a death-sentence. Everyone NEEEDS to belong to something or someone, because being alone means people can do whatever they want with you without fear of retaliation or even investigation." Great personal narrative, and makes it easy to see why a lot of people would sell their souls just for the chance of escaping to something better or just 'different'!
IIRC, as 40k's fiction has grown over time, the hive cities have been framed like this: originally they were very different during the golden age of humanity. The hives were supported by technology that has long since failed and been removed, replaced with far cruder machinery to keep them barely livable. Originally, the hives were arcologies that were clean and healthy. The purpose was to avoid humanity paving over entire worlds and destroying their ecologies, by keeping most humans living in central locations. Advanced technology and engineering was used to make the cities pleasant. One might imagine even if the average person had a small apartment it was mainly a sleeping room, and most time was spent out and around the mega city. In vast parks, libraries, arcades, and universities. Remember at the height, most labor and manufacturing was performed by "men of iron" or AI servitors. The problem is after the fall, the megacities began to fail. When the Men of Iron were destroyed, humans were forced to labor under conditions originally meant for machines. Dark, hidden underground, unsafe, without adequate atmospheric circulation. Most of the healthy public facilities would have vanished, with a minority being preserved for the noble families who seized control at the topmost levels. Since the hive city paradigm seems to have been one of the standard practices for humanity colonizing the galaxy - back when such a city provided a good life - it explains why most of humanity lives in squalor now. They are being forced to inhabit environments that have not only fallen apart, but were never actually intended for human beings to live and work in.
Very true. Pray one is born in Ultramar or some random paradise world. Papa Smurf at least had the vision, organization & will to ensure Ultramar's hive cities aren't totally Hell³...
I also assume that since we know Golden Age had shit like VR & AR, that even a tiny sleeping place works fine when you can spend your days either in public facilities or online in infinite VR environments like MMOs & other stuff like that, you name it. Hell we know VR is a thing because some worlds even used VR bunkers to stash civvies while the world is getting BTFO by Men of Iron & other giga structures fighting them in turn, and many of them actually died IRL since the war never did end in time, so they were never released out of it by w/e automated system they had for switching it off once the war was over on the world. I assume they had Culture tier tech similar to neural laces etc, especially since we know that Butcher's Nails exist, which seem to be a modded black market version of w/e tech they had available in general. It wouldn't be that weird for Butcher's Nails' base-line version to be some type of neural interface since it hooks to the nervous system even in its enslavement/pain fuckery modded version too on a world w/ slavery culture like Nuceria, which I assume must have existed long before the Age of Strife begun.
Bro I didn't even have a window for the first five years of my adult life on EARTH 38,000 years sooner when people still had some rights because I rented a basement. But Joe does. Lucky fucker.
He wasn't rich enough to play the original game originating from the forgeworld called G.Workshop so he played a knock-off version called Spacemace 69 using heretic technology; non ad-mech approved 3d printed models invented by an outlawed imperial commisar Gamza. He was hunted by the Forgeworld's merciless group of enforcers called the Legal Defense Team.
A dark Eldar Hamonculus was on Terra to try to fix the golden Throne. He was OVERWHELMED by the amount of suffering on terra. The Dark Eldar mad Scientist was overwhelmed by the suffering on terra. That's like when Charlie Sheen comes up to you and says "listen, you're doing to many drugs".
Why would a Dark Eldar, let alone a Haemonculus, want to help the Imperium fix the Golden Throne? Also that doesn't really make sense, I can't imagine Commoragh having less suffering in it than Terra, I mean it is massive and utterly filled to the brim with psychos torturing people in the most horrific ways imaginable. I think sometimes the writers just suck at consistent worldbuilding.
Or hes painting miniatures of a fictive universe in the year 80000 which is even more grim dark than his own to have a sence of "well at least its not that bad"
@@chromosomedcollector living the HIGHEST fantasy of living in a shire-esque paradise going to parties and frolicking around in nature. His favourite character is his 65 year old retired gardener .
It's worth remembering that when GW were designing 40k in the late 80s, Kowloon Walled City was somewhat well know in the UK (Hong Kong still being under British control). Along with other sources of inspiration I do think that this was one of the big things that fed into Necromunda - even down to how the Hong Kong of the time and especially Kowloon were under triad control when game that we now know as proto-Necromunda, Confrontation, was being developed (released in 1990).
yeah, the chance GW knew about Kowloon at that time is pretty high, considering it was featured in many cyberpunk media of the 80's and 90's funny thing about Kowloon, when it eventually got dismantled, it's former residents complained about being relocated, apparently they liked that place very much
@@0ff868 Nobody likes being uprooted from the place they call home, no matter how bad it may seem. There was a lot of camaraderie among neighbors, since you lived so tightly together, so the whole place had several thousand close knit communities that sprawled the city. Really the worst parts about the city was that the inner areas were pretty poorly ventilated, so air was stagnant and polluted, and that the whole place was a cobbled together mess of pipes and wires ready to explode on the first structural collapse. Kowloon was torn down because it was unsafe, not inhumane. It really was one of the most fascinating places on earth.
The main and direct inspiration was Judge Dredd, being Necromunda born as a sort of a rip off of Mega City One. Confrontation was just the Judge Dredd game GW wanted to make but in the Rogue Trader universe.
To be fair, Cain books feature different Imperial worlds where life can be genuinely decent, even quite nice. At least, when they are not being actively invaded by somebody ofc. Perlia for example seemed as a pretty chill place to live, when there are no orks around
That's such fancy materials even the nobles would want it. Plus the Habit blocks may collapse if the building's structural support is now like Tofu Dreg quality.
I bet that's what he wanted either way. It doesn't matter to him in what condition humanity exists so long as it does, and so long as it keeps being warp-free.
@@kogorun that would imply he be ok with space marines ruling over humanity which wasn't the case, he wanted humanity to be self functioning atheists in order to combat any xeno and chaos horde
@@terranaxiomuk well it's not like the current situation is not without proper justification, they are now at constant war and can't use stuff like AI cause of chaos
There is a reason people will stand in a que for most of their lives so that one of their great grand children can become a menial scribe in the Administratum. The Guard is a privilege to most in the Imperium, they feed you at least. Even if the average life span of a Guardsmen in combat is 15 hours.
In Darktide, you can see the living conditions of the general populace in the mission Hab Dreyko. They live inside hab blocks that are made of lots of apartments that contain shared living space with bunk beds. Also at the beginning of the mission Power Matrix HL-17-36, the characters comment about the horrible conditions of the workers in the manufactorum which are even worse than in hab blocks. You can see stuff like blankets, pillows, clothes and sleeping bags randomly spread in areas that look like small locker rooms, right next to enormous factory rooms that contain massive machinery and scorching heat of Metalfab 36.
The Rogue Trader CRPG is good for a view of the average conditions for those without hab blocks (and also, as expected, those living in the bowels of a voidship). It's just makeshift 'mattresses' of things like stone with equally makeshift pillows and blankets up against walls with no privacy, maybe someone got lucky early on and found that one bed-shaped gap between some piping and used some old rags as a 'curtain' to have the only private spot in the area. I also like that the voidship side of it makes notes of how there's deck chairs arranged around heat vents.
I can imagine it to be like living in a massive prison block especially on the worker levels where people there have no hope of ascending their position
@@dystopianchimp joining the Guard is a way out, possibly a deadly one though and for those in Darktide who made it to the Inquisition thats seen as a massive step up in status as they now mock many of the guards they pass on missions.
@@cyberleaderandy1 I know its a way off comparison but it honestly kind of reminds me of when you move up a few years in high school and you look back and mock the new kids who were in the exact same position you were not long ago.
Prison... are you kidding? 3 meals a day, clean sheets, clothing, and shelter as well as plenty of time to spend on reading and recreation. That's practically a Robinson Club Resort by comparison. A concentration camp/gulag kind of experience is probably a bit closer to what it might be like to merely exist in the 41st millennium. One poor soul among the untold trillions who toil away day in, day out at 14/23-hour shifts. However, it's still worse, as you can at least breathe the air in the aforementioned camps without immediately signing up for long term damage to every vital organ and function inside of you. And that's if everything strictly goes to plan, mind you! The ideal case, without so much as a side step or even minor inconvenience that could cause one of your overseers or higher-ups to develop a sense of doubt towards your unconditional faith, loyalty, and overall usefulness. For the Empire in general, and specifically for the task the God Emperor himself trusted you with as part of his grand vision for humankind. In other words, if you misbehave, fail at the tasks loaded up on you or succumb to weakness and damaged intestines from malnutrition and breathing poison, it's heresy, clear as day! Certainly worse than treason, so simply killing you won't do the matter justice. Look forward to waking up strapped to a table, as 5 dimly opaque, milky green lenses in what once must have been a human face muster you. You recognize the crimson robe of the Tech Priest, bowed over the torn husk of your naked body, and hear the metallic humming of ones and zeros from his chants of binary code. It feels almost soothing, but you're cold until all of a sudden, robotic arms dashing out from beneath the robes spin up screaming discs and buzz saws that mirror a blinding light from above before they eat into your flesh. You don't even have the time to think about how quickly your limbs got severed and taken off the table in pairs within mere seconds. The last thought you're able to grasp is that, unfortunately, you've wet yourself. Or did you? You could swear that you... or something that's supposed to be from you was laying there a moment ago.
Ha, luxury compared to Victorian London! Try googling a "Two Penny Hangover". It was, quite literally, a bench you sat on with other sleepers with a rope strung in front of it, which you leaned over, hung over, and slept. Needless to say that you could cram a lot of such benches into a single room, and easily kick out tenants in the morning by cutting the rope. For a step up in luxury consider the Four Penny Coffin! A box on the ground you could sleep in horizontally. God only knows how much a bunk room would cost!
After years of lurking in the 40k lore side of RUclips, I have never seen a better video about the average life of a regular citizen. The production is good, the music soothing but yet captivating. Your voice kept me concentrated on both your dialogue and my miniatures. I absolutely love your content. I will watch your career with great interests. A personal recommendation of mine would be a video on traitor guardsmen. Their fall, their life, notable group in the lore, etc.
I had thought the same about people who claimed to be remember past lives. Most everyone claims they were Cleopatra, a Druid Priest, Alexander the Great, or someone important. But most past lives would be “I was a peasant living in a mud hut with 8 family members, and died of a dehydration/diarrhea at age 8.”
I’m imagining that as we follow Joe throughout his day you’ll hear context clues in the background. Walking through the red light district Joe gets an offer by a “Lady of the night” for some company, underneath her collar we can make out a mark of Slaanesh. When Joe gets his protein slab and nutrition sticks you hear in the background that the composition of ingredients has steadily been changing and how the protein slab tastes different. In his apartment building people talk about worsening damage and about how this block maybe also will collapse or crash into the factory underneath it. When Joe is home and crawls into his bed and looks at the picture of his wife the camera zooms out as Joe curls up, we either have a silent fade to black or have a single quiet sob from Joe. Post credit scene two/three decades later we see Joe again, he looks even worse then before and we follow him home again. We hear different things, about how rumours of war in the lower hive, a hussed discussion about a strange ship. When Joe’s home and curls up his noticeably more worn bed he hear a commotion, as he looks up sleep still in his eyes his door burst open, heavily armed men grab him and push him roughly onto the hallway floor and a needle is injected into him, screaming of other people being handled the same way echo throughout the building. Joe wakes an unknown amount of time later in a darkroom, bound to a chair, in front of him an agent of the inquisition, in his hand he holds a datapad with footage of Joe. The inquisition agent says “Did you think we wouldn’t catch onto you! Traitor!” The footage consists of Joe’s collisions with servitors he had over the years and mistakes during his work. Next to the footage we can read the damages his actions has caused to the imperium.
I doubt ordo hereticus would have interest in someone like Joe. It could happen by the hands of some other low-level beurocrat, someone who never left the same block in the hive city, with no special skill or motive. And it wouldn't be from an attentive observation of Joe's life, but rather from some impersonal, obscure, broad criteria that he failed to meet, or that got him in an impossible position. Also it wouldn't be an actual punishment, just the subtraction of essential resources with no specific intent or porpouse. Something like a change in the numbering system for his tower's floors, resulting in Joe not knowing which floor to select in the elevator triggering a three strikes policy that voids his magnetic card. Unfortunately the recovery process involves documents that he keeps in his room. As Joe frantically looks for a solution in the streets, barely surviving, other automatic systems detect he's missing from home and work, and irreversibly classify him as dead. He spends the last month of his life starving in the streets, getting robbed and beaten multiple times until a corpse Guilder collects him fro the ground, feverish and unable speak, for corpse-starch.
So when are you going to start writing dog! I paused the video to read this cause I was hooked. I've been looking for inspiration to write something similar and I think you done did it. The context clues. Nice work.
@@TheHammerComesDown I can’t tell exactly how I got the inspiration, but the way I visualised it was by thinking of this as a short movie, and being someone that points out small details and explains their significance. I remember a video about the Astartes short film were someone pointed out such small details. “See those regular humans next to the space marines? That’s how large space marines are compared to humans.” “See that tall guy at the end of the hallway? That the inquisitor that gets possessed by the ball thing.” A great story that makes use of this is ‘SCP-5000 Why?’ Or ‘SCP-1730 What happened to Site-13?’ (If you don’t know SCP be ready for a rabbit hole that’s at least as deep and convoluted as 40K). Although you get the general story by reading, you’ll truly understand the significance of certain moments when you understand the small details. (I suggest Mr Illustrated if you want the stories in video format.)
Considering that its either a theocratic hyper-capitalist state or a ultra-religious fascist state, I wouldn't be surprised, heck I've heard more stories of the fighting plus with some campaigns I've done years ago than the average live of citizens, where they live, their general health, etc.
No wonder joining the PDF just to get a shot at joining the Imperial Guard is seen as such a glorious thing. Better rations, medical care, pay, and they also give you a lasgun. What more could an Imperial citizen wish for.
Its interesting listening to the characters comments in Darktide about rations and such that the Inquisition is seen as a step up from the guards. Even their basic accomodation and potential to survive is seen as better than what they got previously.
The best case of this is the Mordian Iron Guard. They and their family do not have to work the mines and get guaranteed food rations. It's an awful world even by Imperium standards and self end is the leading cause of death.
I think it's really neat that you take a narrative approach to questions. I was expecting yet another WH40K description channel, but instead you narrate a day-in-the-life. I appreciate that, so you've definitely earned a sub. Cheers!
In a short story King of Pigs, the main character is just a factory worker, but he has his own apartment with a bathroom and closet (I picture it like V's apartment from 2077) and, I'm not gonna say there's no planets in the imperium where the homes are that bad, hell there's probably thousands just like that, but I feel like a larger percent of the Hive worlds are more like that. Of course the main character literally has to paddle through a river of blood to get to work every morning, so maybe it is all just terrible forever.
@@Ner0sys7and you understand that the US is a conservative, capitalist hellscape? Just one political party wears a liberalist cape and the other a fascist one.
@@Ner0sys7 It's hard to think of any part of 40k caused by capitalist private industry. Most events and conditions are the direct result of command economy.
@@MuleKickin @Derekthetau It's not. He basically just means: The quality of your channel should attract a bigger audience. Now that I am thinking about it. I haven't subscribed yet! Here get a sub!
As much as space marines are the poster children of 40k, one of my favourite things is just seeing how average people cope in the awful universe. More stuff like this would be lovely! The Bloodlines book is a great example of more down to earth 40k stuff
One of my favorite short stories is a human living on a former Imperial colony that's joined the Tau. The standard of living is so much higher but all he can do is dream about rejoining the Imperium lol. There's a scene where he bedrugingly is grateful for the Tau air conditioner in his apartment and that made me realize that the Imperium would not have air conditioners. Living on a forge-world just became 100x worse.
Now explaining both the Chaos and Dark Eldar living arrangements; if one is to SURVIVE in some measure of piece. For Chaos, food is PERSONALLLY made for the Death Guard and World Eaters so any mortal to consume said food will...experience inappropriate bowel movement to say lightly. Living in your hab-block where the literal ceiling wants to crush you, windows showing all sorts of horrors even without LOOKING, utility failure happening every minute and forcing you to pay for maintenance, your neighbors sending IEDs and horror mail, oh and let's not forget your landlord is secretly the Demon Govenor over the Demon Planet who is planning your demise! For Dark Eldar...Emperor save me as a sinner; one of the least bad facts of being their "toy" is having a "warm" bed and possibility you may give birth to a half-breed. Regardless of gender. Oh, and the fetus is psychically aware its growing inside you and CHOOSING which END to come out.
Those who serve chaos at least get to have some fun and spend their time doing what they love. Nurgle might be the only faction leader to really care about the happiness and well-being of his followers.
@@vylbird8014 I think Slannesh probably does too, as the sensations and passions of its followers give it greater power, and it wants to make sure that cycle keeps going. Note that's probably, not definitely.
@@thedungeondelver Maybe, but Slannesh is also so demanding. Always expects more, more, more. Never a chance to just relax, you can't even properly enjoy the party if you are already wondering how you will top this with an even bigger one, and there are consequences for failing to impress. But Nurgle? Much more laid back.
Yeah, but with Chaos it's practically expected that you'll: kill people for annoying you, stuff the ceiling poltergeist into a battery, ALSO send IEDs or possessed mail to people, scheme to make everyone hate the Demon Governor so you can take his place, get used to the horrors to where you don't care anymore, get implants so you get high off seeing all of this, etc... Chaos is life with all the safety checks switched off, and a hundred more options to put them in yourself; you're doing it wrong if you expect other people to provide safety under Chaos; in fact, it'll reward you for coming up with a solution yourself/making Chaos serve you and not the other way around.
@@ccharboneau344khorn and nurgle are not like that. Khorn would have you face the individual in honorable battle and not backstabbing. Nurgle just doesn’t think you need to do that. Slaanesh and tzentch are like that though.
Dark and Grimm futures have always been apart of the stories we make. Much of which is inspired by reality, some are just exaggerating and shifting the tales others have created. There’s a great old cartoon movie called Wizards, post apocalyptic, def check it out!
The thing about the average is numbers. While hive worlds aren’t anywhere near numerous enough to be what the average 40K world looks like, the sheer number of people living on them absolutely tips the scales in their favour. The ‘average’ world of the imperium would be a civilised or Agri world. So likely not too bad unless you get invaded or a chaos/genestealer cult takes root.
Yeah exactly - pure population density alone forces us to consider life in hives as 'average' even though hive worlds themselves are actually quite uncommon in the grand scheme of things
Even the Agri-worlds are hardly comfortable. They aren't made to be sustainable - the level of chemical enhancement needed to maximise yield renders the planet toxic to most animal life, including humans, and work hours are just as long as anywhere else. Less crowded, at least. The world is too toxic to use after a few centuries, but that's ok - it's more practical to just terraform a new one. Sustainable farming just can't produce the yields required.
@@dystopianchimp Yeah, I'm happy you actually took into account that the population of hiveworlds are just so vast that it IS the average for Imperial living situations. Most of the time people go into weird "Imperial Apologetics" and go for the average world type instead just because it doesn't make the Imperium look all that bad. Heck, I know we've all seen people use as "examples on why the Imperium isn't so bad to live in!!1!" Honestly, I think there's a possibility another hab type for hivers wasn't mentioned though, and that's the communal capsule type, where it's effectively just a sealed off bed in the wall that has the barest amount of room. Though places like that are probably on-site habitation, and may not be the actual average. It's hard to say though.
@@FarremShamist The unimaginable wealth and luxury of bigshots like planetary governors, inquisitors, etc would skew the average quality of life back in the opposite direction too though, making it seem not as impoverished and dire as it is for a majority of people.
@@doomguy9049 I mean, if you include the unimaginably wealthy in the census, they're going to skew something if you give too much weight on them. More likely, it's not going to affect the slide at all. It would barely even nudge it, with how many people live just worse lives.
Id imagine that a considerable portion wouldn't even get the "coffin apartments" you see in Hong Kong. Arch mentioned there being massive dorms and i remember in the Krieg story "Left For Dead" that such dorms are employed. And from the dialogue it sounds like these are far from uncommon. So yeah, you'd get back from work, and you cant even get some privacy. Your most private is your cot, maybe a container to hold personal shit, and what you carry. And Emperor help you if there's an old couple or kids, cause then you are getting no sleep. Granted id imagine if you're married they'd let you and the missus have a room after getting proper documentation so you can "make more little soldiers for the Emperor" in relative private.
Yeah we should be grateful we still actually have horizontal property rights...vertical property, like in urban areas, are a glimpse into a hellish future
I'm most curious about what the equivalent of a middle manager is like in 40k. Not the super rich, but what is it like to make the equivalent of say 100k or 200k in the 40k universe (adjusted for inflation, obviously) that person is moderately successful, the kind who should be able to support a family and have a decently materialistic life.
Warhammer crime story describes the life amenities of local police detectives (not arbites) who might fit the bill. Basically they’ve got apartment, assigned cars and live in relatively safe part of town.
Rogue Traders if they're still canon? There's a whole caste of people LARPing Star Trek in 40k, so the Imperium has a gray area between it and aliens/mutants/whatever.
@@ccharboneau344 Rogue Traders have never stopped being canon and are some of the wealthiest people within the Imperium. A Rogue Trader will have their own personal fleet, military personnel, and the right to trade with xenos and non-Imperial humans should they encounter them. They pass down their badge of office similar to Inquisitors where it may go to a family member or protegee. With that badge of office, they pass down everything they have. So there's generations upon generations of wealth built up within an explorer fleet under the command of a Rogue Trader.
One of my favorite parts of WH40 Space Marine on the ps3 were the tapes of imperial citizens talking before the orc attack, and trying to stay together and stay alive during it. You also walk through living quarters in a lot of areas.
Dang, that is a good video for me, as you can visualize from the highest of kings to even low lives who have no purpose other than working. Either way, it is good, now i want to see an average life of an citizen in an imperial knight world. As always, i will wait for you to make that, thank you
The best food I’ve ever had has come from some of the sketchiest restaurants. My favorite literally got shut down by the fire department while I was eating there. Something about these over crowded cities makes me find so much comfort in hole in the wall eateries, noodle shops, and Izakayas. I don’t need to know how the food is made or what it is or even if it’s killing me. I just wanna go to that comfy place.
What would I do after a 16 hour shift in a hive world? Same thing I do for a 12 hour in this world. Feed my cat, Smoke weed, and pass tf out? No time to eat or cook sounds like the same thing here. The smoke helps get past the uncertainty and troubling times. Wait sorry I forgot we were talking about 40k
This is very much like you see in the hab areas of Darktide. Only when you get into the archives or the tower areas do you get to see the posher parts of a hive.
The sheer knowledge that most Imperium citizens live in Hive Cities makes me realize something: If you were in W40K, you wouldn't be a Custodes, an Astartes, an Inquisitor. You wouldn't even be a Guardsman. You'd probably be a nobody in a broken old metroplex who's best option for anything would probably to drink some bleach to get out of it all. And even then you probably won't have any bleach because bleach is probably a lost technology in the 41st millenium.
Nope too much free will and free time will make people inefficient and heretical in the eyes of the empire, because ever since the age of the robo uprising they have been extremely cautious in ever advancing the creative mind and technology. Also the imperium works on fear mongering so giving them terrible living conditions is one of the conditions to always be fearful.
That's the great irony of 40k. There's so many obvious-on-the-face-of-it things they Imperium _could_ do to _fix_ things...but they won't. "That's Heresy," or "We've done it this way for 20000 years and aren't changing now." Besides: the Emperor doesn't give a damn about humans*, and neither does any other member of the Administratum. (*Yeah, yeah, he cares about "humanity" but they're nothing but cogs in a machine to him...which is weird and a tautology, when you think about it.)
I would think there would probably be some dispensation for extra space or other amenities if you have at least two kids; this would be a thing the Impirium would want to encourage as they always need more meat for war machine. Front line or factories.
Interesting point - unless the administration is concerned about overpopulation in the hive? Probs a bit of a balancing act and would likely depend on the hive and / or planet
You mentioned Soviet Communal Apartments. My father had spent first 10 years of his life in one. His family of 5: my grandfather, grandmother, great-grandmother (half-crazed Holocaust survivor), my dad and his sister - lived in a 9 (!) square meters room. The apartment had 7/8 rooms like that, one shared kitchen and a shared toilet/bathroom. You couldn’t buy a place to live. You had to queue for a "placement". They got placed in a flat in a half-finished block eventually after some bribing (were supposed to queue for 20 years, got a place after 15. Cheers). Parents had to work 6 days a week - one at a factory, one in construction. 12 hour shifts. No counting the commute. Children were left to themselves with a not-so-sane grandmother who kept calling for her dead husband and son (my grandfather's older brother). Obviously lightyears away from the 40K level of miserable. But miserable nonetheless.
This is one of my new favorite warhammer lore channels. Please dont stop. Your choice in ambient music, your writing/narrating, pace and how you bounce from giving facts, but also speaking to us, is a very refreshing aspect that most other channels do not do. Its great to hear the facts, but you still manage to retain a genuine human/conversational element. Sometimes, unless the subject matter is very interesting, it often becomes a bland chore to listen to other channels simply " say" the lore. Thank you so much for your hard and quality work. I hope your channel continues to grow and you find success in all you do. Cheers, from Guam.
The first two examples would lead to such massive attrition that the hive would simply die out. Grimdark has never been too realistic (North Korea is an exception because it is at odds with human nature) and at one point, 40k needs to answer the questions humans ask themselves. Why am I doing this? The worst way it could work while still maintaining survivable odds would be accomodation similar to the industrial centers in the 19th and 20th century. Which was terrible enough as I know from history lectures in university.
It's probably why the actual average is some sort of enclosed habitation unit, even if it's communal. Bunk beds or beehive sorts where you are in stacked wall capsules. Even if those are not preferable, definitely better than sticking next to death-fumes while you're asleep lmao
@@FarremShamist At least it will be a good sleep. I mean...the workers would literally die in their childhood without being able to procreate. Even satire can only go so far.
North Korea proves your point actually. Their population has been falling for decades. I also hold the view that the Imperium could not exist. People in such condition will not have children since they don't have the time, energy, living space and desire to build a family in this world. Children would die before even reaching adulthood due to pollutants. Disease would wipe the rest of the population out. Also people don't work well at all when doing 16 hours every day, they will doze off, botch their job, be unproductive. Massive parts of the population would rebel, they don't have anything to lose. And if they succeed, they won't care about the Chaos invasion, it will take thousands of years, far more than they or their children will ever see.
In Hong kong today there are people who literally rent beds. I think all you get it a small pod with a curtain and matress and a lockable wardrobe. Everything else you have to share with the other residents. I also saw a guy's small shack which was his shop. Downstairs was his wares and above the till was a small mezzanine level with ladder with a bed. I'm guessing that was his entire life. So the 40k stuff really isn't that unrealistic!
Liked and subbed. I am a sucker for Wh40k lore videos and I regularly listen to Baldermord, Luetin09 and Oculus Imperia to help me fall asleep. I can imagine seeing you in the same league. Not because your vids are so boring that I can't help but to fall asleep, but because of the structured way of your videos and your calm way of moderating them. Informative if you are into Wh40k and totally relaxing.
Individual accommodation ? How selfish. I picture dorms of 12 ppl per room, hammocks that is yours for your allotted 8 hours of free time. No bed roll, the room is heated with waste heat from factories. One shower and one toilet per room, no windows, one flickering neon light. Kitchen is not necessary, the daily grub comes from a tube with a faucet. You just have a small box to put your few clothes and other personal belongings. Basically, student dorms in Asia in the late 90's.
Great idea for a video, I rly want to see more channels explore general concepts like this one rather then mainly focusing on a very specific instance of lore.
Well, he hasn't reported his wife mia, so he gets double share luxury and doesn't have to be busted down to an even SMALLER hab unit. One could possibly imagine a long term stay in an ISO-cube would be a true luxury compared to the majority of situations one may find themselves in 40k. Always a roll of the dice. I think joy comes down to possessions and friendships rather than cold hard cash. Even cash can only get you so far and some thugs are deaf to that. Owning a relic laspistol (heck, even a zip tube), a 200sq foot apartment possibly with a drop down lav that doesn't smell too much, and an acquaintance or two that you may consider a friend, these are the true riches. Cash could get you up a few hundred floors, maybe even a bodyguard or two, but can you really trust them? That's a big bullseye. Heck, even Joe's wife and lover might come knocking one day looking for a quick score.
Honestly the fact Judge Dredd has the isocubes shows how much more humane it is than 40k, I suspect most punishments for law violations in 40k carry far worse outcomes than an isocube or getting judged in MC1.
@@filanfyretracker If it's severe enough to call the cops, it's likely a summary judgement on the spot, and the lowest tiers are getting you through a tube in their ration cups in hours.
Joe, 7:15, this message is for you. They’re not mindless. They’re not just the masses. When you get home, your bare walls are mirrors of your own internal emptiness. She left you for SOMEONE… because you are the same NO ONE you see in Everyman. Stop. See others. Joe ignores. They ignore, they’re “lost in their own concerns,” as you are… and as we, of Earth2K’s “DimDark” cities, also do. Good morning, Joe, I saw you in the mirror within my own hab.
Another top tier video mate. Your quality is consistent and rivals the big channels, I hope you go a long way here you deserve it! We need more non-meme enjoyable content, and you explore aspects of the lore that others may overlook. Keep it coming mate I love it.
Rather than being produced, the o2 is mostly just recycled / scrubbed or converted from other gases. Some hives might also have a few algae farms that can produce some supply - also, the upper tiers of the hive would likely have gardens / parks / greenhouses etc so would throw a bit more air into the mix
Yes, depending on how high up you live. Inherited from your ancestor who passed away after spending decades queuing up for and on his deathbed being granted one. Probably one could be awarded if you are constantly overachiving your workquota without dropping in quality.
One of my favorite descriptions of a Hive World's hab blocks would have to come from Arch, as he basically calls the habs storage units, in which the millions of human tools are stored from floor to ceiling until needed.
This channel it's dripping with personality and character, so many channels focus on the "wow isn't this so dark, imagine lol" but you actually point how, by the common Joe of the imperium, that's just how things are, and how they just live day by day, just as we do, no extreme aspirations, no insane dreams, just living, or rather, surviving, it's the goal. I'll be watching your other videos, I usually just put 40k videos as background noise but this actually made me stop what I was doing and actually listen, it felt like I was watching a movie.
Thanks mate ❤I do think 40k needs more 'showing' rather than 'telling' when it comes to living day-to-day (in every faction), I find it really refreshing looking into this stuff especially when most of the lore is mostly stuff that goes beyond mortal comprehension
@@dystopianchimp Easily done, too... it would be interesting for a story to involve some of the often-covered Space Marines doing battle in a hive city and being reminded how most of the imperium lives, and how privileged their own position is. Being so heavily trained for loyalty, this would probably just remind them what they fight for - the day when the enemies of the Imperium (ie, everyone else) are defeated, the fighting may finally end, and all the resources and lives spent on weapons may instead be used to better the lives of the people. But still, it's going to have an emotional impact even on the Astartes.
I personally was very impressed by one scene in some book. Slaanesh's Astartes capture crew of Khornit's war ship, and they give drgs to one of captured slaves. The slave has a vision of paradise, and his paradise vision was simply sitting in the beautiful park, listening to birds, seeing skies and plants and sun. Each spaceship requires thousands of human to work, and usually they spend entire life onboard, and for that slave beautiful park was something incredibly luxurious. I thought and re-evaluate after reading a lot😅
I assumed that a "middle class" hab block in a stereotypical hive city would look like a council estate or a Soviet style apartment block. Perhaps even a Dread style hab block (The 2012 movie) or City 17 from half life 2 including enforcers patrolling the streets and breencasts.
When I think Imperial "middle class" hab block, I to think of Soviet style apartment, but with Brazillian or Indian favella like slums and infrastructure from the 70's too
Don't knock the commie blocks. They are rather spartan, but they were built with urgency and they did achieve their primary goal: Housing huge numbers of people in acceptable conditions as quickly and affordably as possible.
@@vylbird8014 When refitted (like they're supposed to be) they can be pretty decent places all things considered. One of the things that more modern constructions could do is soundproofing, for one. Everyone I've talked to who's lived in one that's been properly maintained (which is a key factor), they quite liked it.
This is what i would say is some of fthe flaws of 40k. having the average citizen living so badly will just make for a breeding ground for chaos. and its not really needed to have it so horrible for 40k to be grimdark universe. like 16h workday is just ridiulous, also not needed for it to be grimdark and also makes for a breeding ground for chaos. btw most slaves in history didnt work 16h a day 10square meter also isnt enough to contain 1/3rd of what you described for the guy who lost his wife. and this is what i mean, its uneccesary grim a people living like this would constantly be making riots and accept chaos to the point its impossible to contain
My favorite description of being an Imperial Citizen was something along the lines of "Not having any sort of badge of office, gang-symbol or other sign of ownership on your person is a death-sentence. Everyone NEEEDS to belong to something or someone, because being alone means people can do whatever they want with you without fear of retaliation or even investigation."
Great personal narrative, and makes it easy to see why a lot of people would sell their souls just for the chance of escaping to something better or just 'different'!
Sounds like how I imagine Ruzzia
That's basically everywhere the same
Brazil
@@toi_techno United Jewish States of America*
What's that from?
IIRC, as 40k's fiction has grown over time, the hive cities have been framed like this: originally they were very different during the golden age of humanity. The hives were supported by technology that has long since failed and been removed, replaced with far cruder machinery to keep them barely livable.
Originally, the hives were arcologies that were clean and healthy. The purpose was to avoid humanity paving over entire worlds and destroying their ecologies, by keeping most humans living in central locations. Advanced technology and engineering was used to make the cities pleasant. One might imagine even if the average person had a small apartment it was mainly a sleeping room, and most time was spent out and around the mega city. In vast parks, libraries, arcades, and universities. Remember at the height, most labor and manufacturing was performed by "men of iron" or AI servitors.
The problem is after the fall, the megacities began to fail. When the Men of Iron were destroyed, humans were forced to labor under conditions originally meant for machines. Dark, hidden underground, unsafe, without adequate atmospheric circulation. Most of the healthy public facilities would have vanished, with a minority being preserved for the noble families who seized control at the topmost levels.
Since the hive city paradigm seems to have been one of the standard practices for humanity colonizing the galaxy - back when such a city provided a good life - it explains why most of humanity lives in squalor now. They are being forced to inhabit environments that have not only fallen apart, but were never actually intended for human beings to live and work in.
Great insight
Very true. Pray one is born in Ultramar or some random paradise world. Papa Smurf at least had the vision, organization & will to ensure Ultramar's hive cities aren't totally Hell³...
I also assume that since we know Golden Age had shit like VR & AR, that even a tiny sleeping place works fine when you can spend your days either in public facilities or online in infinite VR environments like MMOs & other stuff like that, you name it. Hell we know VR is a thing because some worlds even used VR bunkers to stash civvies while the world is getting BTFO by Men of Iron & other giga structures fighting them in turn, and many of them actually died IRL since the war never did end in time, so they were never released out of it by w/e automated system they had for switching it off once the war was over on the world. I assume they had Culture tier tech similar to neural laces etc, especially since we know that Butcher's Nails exist, which seem to be a modded black market version of w/e tech they had available in general. It wouldn't be that weird for Butcher's Nails' base-line version to be some type of neural interface since it hooks to the nervous system even in its enslavement/pain fuckery modded version too on a world w/ slavery culture like Nuceria, which I assume must have existed long before the Age of Strife begun.
@@ancogaming Don't project.
@@ancogaming"people i come across online"
See there's your problem
Joe has a window... his wife is crazy for leaving him
The ganger she ran off with had TWO windows
Bro I didn't even have a window for the first five years of my adult life on EARTH 38,000 years sooner when people still had some rights because I rented a basement.
But Joe does.
Lucky fucker.
She got tired of him spending all his time playing some tabletop game called Battlespork 2024.
@@stuckinaloop6637 Actually he was playing Hamwarmer 80,000
He wasn't rich enough to play the original game originating from the forgeworld called G.Workshop so he played a knock-off version called Spacemace 69 using heretic technology; non ad-mech approved 3d printed models invented by an outlawed imperial commisar Gamza. He was hunted by the Forgeworld's merciless group of enforcers called the Legal Defense Team.
A dark Eldar Hamonculus was on Terra to try to fix the golden Throne. He was OVERWHELMED by the amount of suffering on terra. The Dark Eldar mad Scientist was overwhelmed by the suffering on terra. That's like when Charlie Sheen comes up to you and says "listen, you're doing to many drugs".
Or, to make a 40k analogy, it's like Slaanesh saying " Dude, don't do that. You're going too far, you need help. "😯
😂😂😂
This is Terra.
Madness? This! Is! Terra!
Why would a Dark Eldar, let alone a Haemonculus, want to help the Imperium fix the Golden Throne? Also that doesn't really make sense, I can't imagine Commoragh having less suffering in it than Terra, I mean it is massive and utterly filled to the brim with psychos torturing people in the most horrific ways imaginable. I think sometimes the writers just suck at consistent worldbuilding.
Look at Mr Fancy Pants with his nutrient sticks and window
Man’s living life, I can respect that…
Still was not enough to keep a woman.
@@Peter2k84 Nothing ever is. 😔
I wish I had a window :( I drew a picture of a window on my wall once. I was soon arrested for having an imagination.
@@SvendleBerriesHow's life as a servitor treating you?
His hobbies. I’d like to think he’s painting miniature social workers and counselors for some crazy table top social engineering game.
Or hes painting miniatures of a fictive universe in the year 80000 which is even more grim dark than his own to have a sence of "well at least its not that bad"
He paints miniature townsfolk for the hit tabletop game peacehammer
bold of you to assume he has one. or even know what a hobby is
@@chromosomedcollector living the HIGHEST fantasy of living in a shire-esque paradise going to parties and frolicking around in nature. His favourite character is his 65 year old retired gardener .
@@sana.0451 "I roll for attempt to plant orchidea"
Me watching this video in my studio apartment after a dinner of fried spam: "Warhammer 40K is so dystopian!"
J...Joe? Is that you?
Ok but are you working 25 hours 8 days a week at the ball crushing factory?
@@matthewjones39yes
Did your wife run off with a gangster?
Spam is good tho and expensive where I live. $5 a can.
It's worth remembering that when GW were designing 40k in the late 80s, Kowloon Walled City was somewhat well know in the UK (Hong Kong still being under British control). Along with other sources of inspiration I do think that this was one of the big things that fed into Necromunda - even down to how the Hong Kong of the time and especially Kowloon were under triad control when game that we now know as proto-Necromunda, Confrontation, was being developed (released in 1990).
yeah, the chance GW knew about Kowloon at that time is pretty high, considering it was featured in many cyberpunk media of the 80's and 90's
funny thing about Kowloon, when it eventually got dismantled, it's former residents complained about being relocated, apparently they liked that place very much
Kowloon ishe baiss of much of the genre so 100%
@@0ff868 Nobody likes being uprooted from the place they call home, no matter how bad it may seem. There was a lot of camaraderie among neighbors, since you lived so tightly together, so the whole place had several thousand close knit communities that sprawled the city. Really the worst parts about the city was that the inner areas were pretty poorly ventilated, so air was stagnant and polluted, and that the whole place was a cobbled together mess of pipes and wires ready to explode on the first structural collapse. Kowloon was torn down because it was unsafe, not inhumane. It really was one of the most fascinating places on earth.
I think you could use Necromunda as an example hive world. You could write ones that dig down instead of building up.
The main and direct inspiration was Judge Dredd, being Necromunda born as a sort of a rip off of Mega City One. Confrontation was just the Judge Dredd game GW wanted to make but in the Rogue Trader universe.
Ciaphas Cain and a pre-Heresy Horus are the only people I ever saw smile in WH40K artwork.
There are evil demons and monsters that appear smiling. But yeah, no humans.
Orks are having a good time.
@@maestromike8694 Cuz hoomies furgot to smoil? Gud thin-kun ✌😎!
Nurgle's gang is full of smiles, care for a quick sermon?
To be fair, Cain books feature different Imperial worlds where life can be genuinely decent, even quite nice. At least, when they are not being actively invaded by somebody ofc. Perlia for example seemed as a pretty chill place to live, when there are no orks around
All he needs is some galvanized square steel, eco-friendly wood veneers, and screws borrowed from his aunt
That's such fancy materials even the nobles would want it. Plus the Habit blocks may collapse if the building's structural support is now like Tofu Dreg quality.
What the hell is "wood"? And what does "eco" even stand for?
HAHAHAHAHAH
Little John hive city episode
can't imagine this is what emperor ever wanted for humanity
Neither he expected to be half dead on life support, while being a lighthouse, gatekeeper and an Imperial Garlic to Chaos Satans.
I bet that's what he wanted either way. It doesn't matter to him in what condition humanity exists so long as it does, and so long as it keeps being warp-free.
@@kogorun that would imply he be ok with space marines ruling over humanity which wasn't the case, he wanted humanity to be self functioning atheists in order to combat any xeno and chaos horde
It isn't. He abolished religion and united humanity. The imperium is everything he hated.
@@terranaxiomuk well it's not like the current situation is not without proper justification, they are now at constant war and can't use stuff like AI cause of chaos
There is a reason people will stand in a que for most of their lives so that one of their great grand children can become a menial scribe in the Administratum. The Guard is a privilege to most in the Imperium, they feed you at least. Even if the average life span of a Guardsmen in combat is 15 hours.
Tbh if life like this i rather go die to some alien/demon than live there, at least i get a cool death
Good promotion prospects though. Survive your first battle and you get to be an officer.
The 15 hours stuff was in one very specific combat operation and is not the average across the whole Astra Militarium.
@@Alex-xt1rr (Damn good novel though)
It was 5 hours, not 15.
In Darktide, you can see the living conditions of the general populace in the mission Hab Dreyko. They live inside hab blocks that are made of lots of apartments that contain shared living space with bunk beds. Also at the beginning of the mission Power Matrix HL-17-36, the characters comment about the horrible conditions of the workers in the manufactorum which are even worse than in hab blocks. You can see stuff like blankets, pillows, clothes and sleeping bags randomly spread in areas that look like small locker rooms, right next to enormous factory rooms that contain massive machinery and scorching heat of Metalfab 36.
The Rogue Trader CRPG is good for a view of the average conditions for those without hab blocks (and also, as expected, those living in the bowels of a voidship). It's just makeshift 'mattresses' of things like stone with equally makeshift pillows and blankets up against walls with no privacy, maybe someone got lucky early on and found that one bed-shaped gap between some piping and used some old rags as a 'curtain' to have the only private spot in the area. I also like that the voidship side of it makes notes of how there's deck chairs arranged around heat vents.
Well, to be fair, having a home near warm machinery may be a positive - i imagine a great deal of the spire is just incredibly cold and damp.
@@silvercat18 warm is an understatement. If you play the game, that environment would have you sweating buckets even just when sitting still.
Darktide is fkn prime time ❤
I can imagine it to be like living in a massive prison block especially on the worker levels where people there have no hope of ascending their position
Yeah I don't think you are far off
@@dystopianchimp joining the Guard is a way out, possibly a deadly one though and for those in Darktide who made it to the Inquisition thats seen as a massive step up in status as they now mock many of the guards they pass on missions.
@@cyberleaderandy1 I know its a way off comparison but it honestly kind of reminds me of when you move up a few years in high school and you look back and mock the new kids who were in the exact same position you were not long ago.
i think 1900s "worker housing" would come pretty close!
Prison... are you kidding?
3 meals a day, clean sheets, clothing, and shelter as well as plenty of time to spend on reading and recreation.
That's practically a Robinson Club Resort by comparison. A concentration camp/gulag kind of experience is probably a bit closer to what it might be like to merely exist in the 41st millennium. One poor soul among the untold trillions who toil away day in, day out at 14/23-hour shifts. However, it's still worse, as you can at least breathe the air in the aforementioned camps without immediately signing up for long term damage to every vital organ and function inside of you.
And that's if everything strictly goes to plan, mind you! The ideal case, without so much as a side step or even minor inconvenience that could cause one of your overseers or higher-ups to develop a sense of doubt towards your unconditional faith, loyalty, and overall usefulness. For the Empire in general, and specifically for the task the God Emperor himself trusted you with as part of his grand vision for humankind.
In other words, if you misbehave, fail at the tasks loaded up on you or succumb to weakness and damaged intestines from malnutrition and breathing poison, it's heresy, clear as day!
Certainly worse than treason, so simply killing you won't do the matter justice.
Look forward to waking up strapped to a table, as 5 dimly opaque, milky green lenses in what once must have been a human face muster you. You recognize the crimson robe of the Tech Priest, bowed over the torn husk of your naked body, and hear the metallic humming of ones and zeros from his chants of binary code. It feels almost soothing, but you're cold until all of a sudden, robotic arms dashing out from beneath the robes spin up screaming discs and buzz saws that mirror a blinding light from above before they eat into your flesh.
You don't even have the time to think about how quickly your limbs got severed and taken off the table in pairs within mere seconds. The last thought you're able to grasp is that, unfortunately, you've wet yourself.
Or did you? You could swear that you... or something that's supposed to be from you was laying there a moment ago.
I feel like having a door and some privacy is almost too luxurious. I'd expect crude bunks in an open bay lol.
Well Joe can be considered a member of the elite to some extent. Maybe event a 1%er, considering hive cities host hundreds of billions
I think a lot of people in 40k wouldn't even have carpet to sleep on. They'd get used to sleeping on hard steel and concrete from an early age.
The video did say that our protagonist is in the middle class, with a stable government job.
we see in game like Space Marine, Hammer and Bolter, Darktide that Hab units can actually be pretty big in some places
Ha, luxury compared to Victorian London!
Try googling a "Two Penny Hangover".
It was, quite literally, a bench you sat on with other sleepers with a rope strung in front of it, which you leaned over, hung over, and slept.
Needless to say that you could cram a lot of such benches into a single room, and easily kick out tenants in the morning by cutting the rope.
For a step up in luxury consider the Four Penny Coffin! A box on the ground you could sleep in horizontally.
God only knows how much a bunk room would cost!
"we're gonna describe a hab unit!" describes a 1 bedroom apartment in California / New York.
40k ain't so far away...
Korea and Tokyo are already there.
I was going to say, the comparison too the Soviet Union and China is abit poor like at least the soviet's had green space around buildings lol
40k is the monthly rent
@@huntercoleherr ain't gonna mention China or Hindustan?
@@eimhingalvin8864That was only in certain parts were government officials were or were Western diplomats traveled through, like the reagan parks.
After years of lurking in the 40k lore side of RUclips, I have never seen a better video about the average life of a regular citizen. The production is good, the music soothing but yet captivating. Your voice kept me concentrated on both your dialogue and my miniatures. I absolutely love your content. I will watch your career with great interests.
A personal recommendation of mine would be a video on traitor guardsmen. Their fall, their life, notable group in the lore, etc.
They just got some toys.
Theres still no "army" for chaos inperial gaurd though.
My thanks Warpsmith! Glad you liked the video and love your suggestion - would definitely be an interesting perspective
@@soccerandtrack10 I'm going to assume that you never heard of the blood pack or sons of sekt
Everyone thinks they'd be a Space Marine in 40k but really they'd be shitting themselves to death by 19 in a hiveworld.
You can be a 19 years old Space Marine shitting yourself to death in a hiveworld. WH40K is possibilities realm.
Not true. I’d be an accountant in the grand financial archives of the planet Calculon.
I had thought the same about people who claimed to be remember past lives.
Most everyone claims they were Cleopatra, a Druid Priest, Alexander the Great, or someone important.
But most past lives would be “I was a peasant living in a mud hut with 8 family members, and died of a dehydration/diarrhea at age 8.”
The moment I needed to take a dump I'd...rethink the marine lifestyle.
Id be a servitor or fall to slaanesh, depends how close the nearest inquisitor/arbites is
I’m imagining that as we follow Joe throughout his day you’ll hear context clues in the background.
Walking through the red light district Joe gets an offer by a “Lady of the night” for some company, underneath her collar we can make out a mark of Slaanesh.
When Joe gets his protein slab and nutrition sticks you hear in the background that the composition of ingredients has steadily been changing and how the protein slab tastes different.
In his apartment building people talk about worsening damage and about how this block maybe also will collapse or crash into the factory underneath it.
When Joe is home and crawls into his bed and looks at the picture of his wife the camera zooms out as Joe curls up, we either have a silent fade to black or have a single quiet sob from Joe.
Post credit scene two/three decades later we see Joe again, he looks even worse then before and we follow him home again. We hear different things, about how rumours of war in the lower hive, a hussed discussion about a strange ship.
When Joe’s home and curls up his noticeably more worn bed he hear a commotion, as he looks up sleep still in his eyes his door burst open, heavily armed men grab him and push him roughly onto the hallway floor and a needle is injected into him, screaming of other people being handled the same way echo throughout the building.
Joe wakes an unknown amount of time later in a darkroom, bound to a chair, in front of him an agent of the inquisition, in his hand he holds a datapad with footage of Joe.
The inquisition agent says “Did you think we wouldn’t catch onto you! Traitor!”
The footage consists of Joe’s collisions with servitors he had over the years and mistakes during his work. Next to the footage we can read the damages his actions has caused to the imperium.
I doubt ordo hereticus would have interest in someone like Joe. It could happen by the hands of some other low-level beurocrat, someone who never left the same block in the hive city, with no special skill or motive. And it wouldn't be from an attentive observation of Joe's life, but rather from some impersonal, obscure, broad criteria that he failed to meet, or that got him in an impossible position. Also it wouldn't be an actual punishment, just the subtraction of essential resources with no specific intent or porpouse.
Something like a change in the numbering system for his tower's floors, resulting in Joe not knowing which floor to select in the elevator triggering a three strikes policy that voids his magnetic card. Unfortunately the recovery process involves documents that he keeps in his room. As Joe frantically looks for a solution in the streets, barely surviving, other automatic systems detect he's missing from home and work, and irreversibly classify him as dead. He spends the last month of his life starving in the streets, getting robbed and beaten multiple times until a corpse Guilder collects him fro the ground, feverish and unable speak, for corpse-starch.
So when are you going to start writing dog! I paused the video to read this cause I was hooked. I've been looking for inspiration to write something similar and I think you done did it. The context clues. Nice work.
@@TheHammerComesDown I can’t tell exactly how I got the inspiration, but the way I visualised it was by thinking of this as a short movie, and being someone that points out small details and explains their significance.
I remember a video about the Astartes short film were someone pointed out such small details. “See those regular humans next to the space marines? That’s how large space marines are compared to humans.”
“See that tall guy at the end of the hallway? That the inquisitor that gets possessed by the ball thing.”
A great story that makes use of this is ‘SCP-5000 Why?’ Or ‘SCP-1730 What happened to Site-13?’ (If you don’t know SCP be ready for a rabbit hole that’s at least as deep and convoluted as 40K). Although you get the general story by reading, you’ll truly understand the significance of certain moments when you understand the small details. (I suggest Mr Illustrated if you want the stories in video format.)
Lives of the average citizen is something we really don't get enough of in 40K!!!
Wish they'd do more stories from the perspective of average imperial citizens rather than space marines
@@valance10 Well there are a ton of IG and Inquisition books too
Considering that its either a theocratic hyper-capitalist state or a ultra-religious fascist state, I wouldn't be surprised, heck I've heard more stories of the fighting plus with some campaigns I've done years ago than the average live of citizens, where they live, their general health, etc.
@@danpaz9485 Eisenhorn for example shows what civilian life is like, at least partly
Sounds like working 3rd shift at a Dennys.
I don't know what an overnight at Dennys is like but I suspect even Chaos would know better than to mess with the third shift of a Waffle House.
@@filanfyretracker Denny's gets the people Waffle House kicks out.
in the grim darkness of the present there is only, minimum wage
he gets a WINDOW?! I have worked for the administratum for decades and I don’t get a window!
I want it.
Just gotta know the right people, my friend told me that's how you do it
No wonder joining the PDF just to get a shot at joining the Imperial Guard is seen as such a glorious thing.
Better rations, medical care, pay, and they also give you a lasgun. What more could an Imperial citizen wish for.
Its interesting listening to the characters comments in Darktide about rations and such that the Inquisition is seen as a step up from the guards. Even their basic accomodation and potential to survive is seen as better than what they got previously.
@@cyberleaderandy1 Also that the mechanicum rations are more filling but taste horrible, and that's somehow so telling with so little info
@@toobig7150mechanicum aint here to please your weak fleshlings
also gives context to why so many humans join the T'au. I don't care how xenophobic you are, getting THAT much free shit is hard to pass up.
The best case of this is the Mordian Iron Guard. They and their family do not have to work the mines and get guaranteed food rations. It's an awful world even by Imperium standards and self end is the leading cause of death.
I think it's really neat that you take a narrative approach to questions. I was expecting yet another WH40K description channel, but instead you narrate a day-in-the-life. I appreciate that, so you've definitely earned a sub. Cheers!
In a short story King of Pigs, the main character is just a factory worker, but he has his own apartment with a bathroom and closet (I picture it like V's apartment from 2077) and, I'm not gonna say there's no planets in the imperium where the homes are that bad, hell there's probably thousands just like that, but I feel like a larger percent of the Hive worlds are more like that.
Of course the main character literally has to paddle through a river of blood to get to work every morning, so maybe it is all just terrible forever.
Consider there’s a decent chance if you get dropped on a random planet in 40K you may not realize your in 40K for a very long time
The future is right around the corner
I'm glad the model hive city was based off the ancient forgotten metropolis known as Los Angeles.
A lot like Mega City 1 in Dredd, minus the Judges.
You know 40k as a whole is a satire of conservative capitalism and fascist nationalism, right?
@@Ner0sys7and you understand that the US is a conservative, capitalist hellscape?
Just one political party wears a liberalist cape and the other a fascist one.
@@Ner0sys7 add in hard-line Stalinist communism somehow and the picture is complete.
Bleak af
@@Ner0sys7 It's hard to think of any part of 40k caused by capitalist private industry. Most events and conditions are the direct result of command economy.
Wow, I just assumed this was a bigger channel. Nicely done. I look forward to more of your work!
Backhanded compliment, nice 😅
Thank you! ❤ More vids on the way
@@MuleKickin @Derekthetau It's not. He basically just means: The quality of your channel should attract a bigger audience.
Now that I am thinking about it. I haven't subscribed yet!
Here get a sub!
As much as space marines are the poster children of 40k, one of my favourite things is just seeing how average people cope in the awful universe. More stuff like this would be lovely! The Bloodlines book is a great example of more down to earth 40k stuff
Consider: 99.9999999% of Imperial Citizens will never ever *see* a Space Marine.
If they're lucky.
At least the Skaven have social mobility
legit bro, omg what a thought. Imagine living worse than the Skaven.
Oh? You want Skaven social mobility? * Hangs a bell up over your house and rings it 13 times *
Granted your back is gonna look like Julius Caesar’s everywhere but you’re correct 😂
@@jabloko992if you wanna be technical, the IoM _is_ the 40k Skaven
Skaven aren't real, they don't exist 🐀🐀🐀
Still better than Detroit
Or Chicago.
Haha!
And Philly
And Ohio
At least it's better than the O-block
One of my favorite short stories is a human living on a former Imperial colony that's joined the Tau. The standard of living is so much higher but all he can do is dream about rejoining the Imperium lol. There's a scene where he bedrugingly is grateful for the Tau air conditioner in his apartment and that made me realize that the Imperium would not have air conditioners. Living on a forge-world just became 100x worse.
More Joe Imperium! This was better than most actual 40k fiction.
Klaus Schwab listens to this to fall asleep.
I WILL NOT EAT THE TYRANNIDS
I HATE THE ANTI-EMPEROR
Now explaining both the Chaos and Dark Eldar living arrangements; if one is to SURVIVE in some measure of piece. For Chaos, food is PERSONALLLY made for the Death Guard and World Eaters so any mortal to consume said food will...experience inappropriate bowel movement to say lightly. Living in your hab-block where the literal ceiling wants to crush you, windows showing all sorts of horrors even without LOOKING, utility failure happening every minute and forcing you to pay for maintenance, your neighbors sending IEDs and horror mail, oh and let's not forget your landlord is secretly the Demon Govenor over the Demon Planet who is planning your demise!
For Dark Eldar...Emperor save me as a sinner; one of the least bad facts of being their "toy" is having a "warm" bed and possibility you may give birth to a half-breed. Regardless of gender. Oh, and the fetus is psychically aware its growing inside you and CHOOSING which END to come out.
Those who serve chaos at least get to have some fun and spend their time doing what they love. Nurgle might be the only faction leader to really care about the happiness and well-being of his followers.
@@vylbird8014 I think Slannesh probably does too, as the sensations and passions of its followers give it greater power, and it wants to make sure that cycle keeps going. Note that's probably, not definitely.
@@thedungeondelver Maybe, but Slannesh is also so demanding. Always expects more, more, more. Never a chance to just relax, you can't even properly enjoy the party if you are already wondering how you will top this with an even bigger one, and there are consequences for failing to impress. But Nurgle? Much more laid back.
Yeah, but with Chaos it's practically expected that you'll: kill people for annoying you, stuff the ceiling poltergeist into a battery, ALSO send IEDs or possessed mail to people, scheme to make everyone hate the Demon Governor so you can take his place, get used to the horrors to where you don't care anymore, get implants so you get high off seeing all of this, etc...
Chaos is life with all the safety checks switched off, and a hundred more options to put them in yourself; you're doing it wrong if you expect other people to provide safety under Chaos; in fact, it'll reward you for coming up with a solution yourself/making Chaos serve you and not the other way around.
@@ccharboneau344khorn and nurgle are not like that. Khorn would have you face the individual in honorable battle and not backstabbing. Nurgle just doesn’t think you need to do that. Slaanesh and tzentch are like that though.
"Inperial fauder🤲🧎♂️inperial fauder
🤲🧎♂️veeeere aut,my inperial fauder🤲🧎♂️?...."
Random old person="whaaaaah aaaaaat!!!!???..."
🤲🧎♂️Amen 🤲🧎♂️
If Khorne learns how to weaponize class struggle the imperium is basically over
Space communism?
This lovely Toronto apartment can be yours for only 10,000 a mouth!
Hey don't hit too close to home.
i am just wondering what sort of fever dream Rick Priestly had in order to come up with this all those years ago.
I guess he was in 80s Hong Kong and got inspired
I'm of the opinion that over time, more authors have mad e the world increasingly grim and derpy.
@@dominicmassa5492 kowloon is apparently grimderp
I wouldn't be surprised if the 2000AD comics had some influence. He just took it further.
Dark and Grimm futures have always been apart of the stories we make. Much of which is inspired by reality, some are just exaggerating and shifting the tales others have created. There’s a great old cartoon movie called Wizards, post apocalyptic, def check it out!
The thing about the average is numbers. While hive worlds aren’t anywhere near numerous enough to be what the average 40K world looks like, the sheer number of people living on them absolutely tips the scales in their favour.
The ‘average’ world of the imperium would be a civilised or Agri world. So likely not too bad unless you get invaded or a chaos/genestealer cult takes root.
Yeah exactly - pure population density alone forces us to consider life in hives as 'average' even though hive worlds themselves are actually quite uncommon in the grand scheme of things
Even the Agri-worlds are hardly comfortable. They aren't made to be sustainable - the level of chemical enhancement needed to maximise yield renders the planet toxic to most animal life, including humans, and work hours are just as long as anywhere else. Less crowded, at least. The world is too toxic to use after a few centuries, but that's ok - it's more practical to just terraform a new one. Sustainable farming just can't produce the yields required.
@@dystopianchimp Yeah, I'm happy you actually took into account that the population of hiveworlds are just so vast that it IS the average for Imperial living situations. Most of the time people go into weird "Imperial Apologetics" and go for the average world type instead just because it doesn't make the Imperium look all that bad.
Heck, I know we've all seen people use as "examples on why the Imperium isn't so bad to live in!!1!"
Honestly, I think there's a possibility another hab type for hivers wasn't mentioned though, and that's the communal capsule type, where it's effectively just a sealed off bed in the wall that has the barest amount of room. Though places like that are probably on-site habitation, and may not be the actual average. It's hard to say though.
@@FarremShamist The unimaginable wealth and luxury of bigshots like planetary governors, inquisitors, etc would skew the average quality of life back in the opposite direction too though, making it seem not as impoverished and dire as it is for a majority of people.
@@doomguy9049 I mean, if you include the unimaginably wealthy in the census, they're going to skew something if you give too much weight on them.
More likely, it's not going to affect the slide at all. It would barely even nudge it, with how many people live just worse lives.
Id imagine that a considerable portion wouldn't even get the "coffin apartments" you see in Hong Kong. Arch mentioned there being massive dorms and i remember in the Krieg story "Left For Dead" that such dorms are employed. And from the dialogue it sounds like these are far from uncommon.
So yeah, you'd get back from work, and you cant even get some privacy. Your most private is your cot, maybe a container to hold personal shit, and what you carry. And Emperor help you if there's an old couple or kids, cause then you are getting no sleep.
Granted id imagine if you're married they'd let you and the missus have a room after getting proper documentation so you can "make more little soldiers for the Emperor" in relative private.
I would love a video covering "The Imperial Infantryman's Uplifting Primer"
Great idea - I think GrimDark Narrator might have already done a series on that but will still give it a think
I have the damocles gulf edition of that in mint condition.
Isyander and Koda did a video on it. It's pretty good.
Real estate on Terra must be a nightmare.
Yeah we should be grateful we still actually have horizontal property rights...vertical property, like in urban areas, are a glimpse into a hellish future
I'm most curious about what the equivalent of a middle manager is like in 40k. Not the super rich, but what is it like to make the equivalent of say 100k or 200k in the 40k universe (adjusted for inflation, obviously) that person is moderately successful, the kind who should be able to support a family and have a decently materialistic life.
Warhammer crime story describes the life amenities of local police detectives (not arbites) who might fit the bill. Basically they’ve got apartment, assigned cars and live in relatively safe part of town.
@KalashVodka175 yeah I was wondering if there was anything like upper middle class in 40k. Like how does that guy's boss's boss's boss live?
Rogue Traders if they're still canon?
There's a whole caste of people LARPing Star Trek in 40k, so the Imperium has a gray area between it and aliens/mutants/whatever.
@@ccharboneau344
RT aren’t a middle class they are ruling elite, the ultra wealthy
@@ccharboneau344 Rogue Traders have never stopped being canon and are some of the wealthiest people within the Imperium. A Rogue Trader will have their own personal fleet, military personnel, and the right to trade with xenos and non-Imperial humans should they encounter them. They pass down their badge of office similar to Inquisitors where it may go to a family member or protegee. With that badge of office, they pass down everything they have. So there's generations upon generations of wealth built up within an explorer fleet under the command of a Rogue Trader.
No wonder people join the guard
No wonder people join chaos cults
T'au empire is the best option
@@socramzetroc1535 it 100% isn’t
Video starts at 2:34
This video makes me wanna see Wojack's life in the Imperium.
Haha if I had the animation skills I would definitely give it a go - No Budget Stories style
In 41st millennium, no one cares if you scream.
I really enjoy this.
I love seeing space marines like any other Warhammer enjoyer, but also seeing the world is interesting as well.
One of my favorite parts of WH40 Space Marine on the ps3 were the tapes of imperial citizens talking before the orc attack, and trying to stay together and stay alive during it. You also walk through living quarters in a lot of areas.
Dang, that is a good video for me, as you can visualize from the highest of kings to even low lives who have no purpose other than working.
Either way, it is good, now i want to see an average life of an citizen in an imperial knight world. As always, i will wait for you to make that, thank you
The best food I’ve ever had has come from some of the sketchiest restaurants. My favorite literally got shut down by the fire department while I was eating there. Something about these over crowded cities makes me find so much comfort in hole in the wall eateries, noodle shops, and Izakayas. I don’t need to know how the food is made or what it is or even if it’s killing me. I just wanna go to that comfy place.
I would expect this from a bigger channel. Great work mate, you earn my sub!
Thanks mate ❤ welcome aboard
What would I do after a 16 hour shift in a hive world? Same thing I do for a 12 hour in this world. Feed my cat, Smoke weed, and pass tf out? No time to eat or cook sounds like the same thing here. The smoke helps get past the uncertainty and troubling times. Wait sorry I forgot we were talking about 40k
The answer to that is a rockrete box, if you're lucky!
This is very much like you see in the hab areas of Darktide. Only when you get into the archives or the tower areas do you get to see the posher parts of a hive.
Imperial GDP stonks
The sheer knowledge that most Imperium citizens live in Hive Cities makes me realize something:
If you were in W40K, you wouldn't be a Custodes, an Astartes, an Inquisitor. You wouldn't even be a Guardsman. You'd probably be a nobody in a broken old metroplex who's best option for anything would probably to drink some bleach to get out of it all.
And even then you probably won't have any bleach because bleach is probably a lost technology in the 41st millenium.
The best thing the imperium could do to stem the tides of chaos is to improve the living conditions of their population
Nope too much free will and free time will make people inefficient and heretical in the eyes of the empire, because ever since the age of the robo uprising they have been extremely cautious in ever advancing the creative mind and technology. Also the imperium works on fear mongering so giving them terrible living conditions is one of the conditions to always be fearful.
That's the great irony of 40k. There's so many obvious-on-the-face-of-it things they Imperium _could_ do to _fix_ things...but they won't.
"That's Heresy," or "We've done it this way for 20000 years and aren't changing now."
Besides: the Emperor doesn't give a damn about humans*, and neither does any other member of the Administratum.
(*Yeah, yeah, he cares about "humanity" but they're nothing but cogs in a machine to him...which is weird and a tautology, when you think about it.)
Joe has a mind, and desires, for his life is bleak and his lords failed him, desires of lust, of knowlage, of health, of rage...
On the plus side, you finally found your bottle opener. Now you can open that 38,000 year old bottle of ... Damn, where did that go?
I'd imagine 40K hab blocks looking a lot like the mega-blocks from Dredd (2012) or apartment blocks from Fifth Element (1997)
I would think there would probably be some dispensation for extra space or other amenities if you have at least two kids; this would be a thing the Impirium would want to encourage as they always need more meat for war machine. Front line or factories.
Interesting point - unless the administration is concerned about overpopulation in the hive? Probs a bit of a balancing act and would likely depend on the hive and / or planet
You mentioned Soviet Communal Apartments. My father had spent first 10 years of his life in one. His family of 5: my grandfather, grandmother, great-grandmother (half-crazed Holocaust survivor), my dad and his sister - lived in a 9 (!) square meters room. The apartment had 7/8 rooms like that, one shared kitchen and a shared toilet/bathroom.
You couldn’t buy a place to live. You had to queue for a "placement". They got placed in a flat in a half-finished block eventually after some bribing (were supposed to queue for 20 years, got a place after 15. Cheers).
Parents had to work 6 days a week - one at a factory, one in construction. 12 hour shifts. No counting the commute. Children were left to themselves with a not-so-sane grandmother who kept calling for her dead husband and son (my grandfather's older brother).
Obviously lightyears away from the 40K level of miserable. But miserable nonetheless.
15:08 Good video, other planets and races would also be a good idea for this!
love the music choice
very blade runner
which I believe is set in the same universe as 40k btw
Top tier content dude. Hope you do many other deep dives like this one
0:22 "loyal".
Like how serviters are "loyal".
This is one of my new favorite warhammer lore channels. Please dont stop. Your choice in ambient music, your writing/narrating, pace and how you bounce from giving facts, but also speaking to us, is a very refreshing aspect that most other channels do not do. Its great to hear the facts, but you still manage to retain a genuine human/conversational element. Sometimes, unless the subject matter is very interesting, it often becomes a bland chore to listen to other channels simply " say" the lore. Thank you so much for your hard and quality work. I hope your channel continues to grow and you find success in all you do. Cheers, from Guam.
Thank you for the kind words mate ❤️ I really appreciate it - more vids on the way!
The first two examples would lead to such massive attrition that the hive would simply die out. Grimdark has never been too realistic (North Korea is an exception because it is at odds with human nature) and at one point, 40k needs to answer the questions humans ask themselves. Why am I doing this?
The worst way it could work while still maintaining survivable odds would be accomodation similar to the industrial centers in the 19th and 20th century. Which was terrible enough as I know from history lectures in university.
It's probably why the actual average is some sort of enclosed habitation unit, even if it's communal. Bunk beds or beehive sorts where you are in stacked wall capsules. Even if those are not preferable, definitely better than sticking next to death-fumes while you're asleep lmao
@@FarremShamist At least it will be a good sleep. I mean...the workers would literally die in their childhood without being able to procreate. Even satire can only go so far.
North Korea proves your point actually. Their population has been falling for decades. I also hold the view that the Imperium could not exist. People in such condition will not have children since they don't have the time, energy, living space and desire to build a family in this world. Children would die before even reaching adulthood due to pollutants. Disease would wipe the rest of the population out. Also people don't work well at all when doing 16 hours every day, they will doze off, botch their job, be unproductive. Massive parts of the population would rebel, they don't have anything to lose. And if they succeed, they won't care about the Chaos invasion, it will take thousands of years, far more than they or their children will ever see.
In Hong kong today there are people who literally rent beds. I think all you get it a small pod with a curtain and matress and a lockable wardrobe. Everything else you have to share with the other residents.
I also saw a guy's small shack which was his shop. Downstairs was his wares and above the till was a small mezzanine level with ladder with a bed.
I'm guessing that was his entire life.
So the 40k stuff really isn't that unrealistic!
Well , now i dont feel that bad..
Im in paradise compared to that shack dude..
Liked and subbed. I am a sucker for Wh40k lore videos and I regularly listen to Baldermord, Luetin09 and Oculus Imperia to help me fall asleep. I can imagine seeing you in the same league. Not because your vids are so boring that I can't help but to fall asleep, but because of the structured way of your videos and your calm way of moderating them. Informative if you are into Wh40k and totally relaxing.
Love to see your channel rise ever higher, you deserve it. Great work sir o7
Individual accommodation ? How selfish. I picture dorms of 12 ppl per room, hammocks that is yours for your allotted 8 hours of free time. No bed roll, the room is heated with waste heat from factories. One shower and one toilet per room, no windows, one flickering neon light. Kitchen is not necessary, the daily grub comes from a tube with a faucet. You just have a small box to put your few clothes and other personal belongings. Basically, student dorms in Asia in the late 90's.
Great idea for a video, I rly want to see more channels explore general concepts like this one rather then mainly focusing on a very specific instance of lore.
Well, he hasn't reported his wife mia, so he gets double share luxury and doesn't have to be busted down to an even SMALLER hab unit. One could possibly imagine a long term stay in an ISO-cube would be a true luxury compared to the majority of situations one may find themselves in 40k. Always a roll of the dice. I think joy comes down to possessions and friendships rather than cold hard cash. Even cash can only get you so far and some thugs are deaf to that. Owning a relic laspistol (heck, even a zip tube), a 200sq foot apartment possibly with a drop down lav that doesn't smell too much, and an acquaintance or two that you may consider a friend, these are the true riches. Cash could get you up a few hundred floors, maybe even a bodyguard or two, but can you really trust them? That's a big bullseye. Heck, even Joe's wife and lover might come knocking one day looking for a quick score.
Honestly the fact Judge Dredd has the isocubes shows how much more humane it is than 40k, I suspect most punishments for law violations in 40k carry far worse outcomes than an isocube or getting judged in MC1.
@@filanfyretracker If it's severe enough to call the cops, it's likely a summary judgement on the spot, and the lowest tiers are getting you through a tube in their ration cups in hours.
Sitting in the bunk of my truck cooking a pork steak in my air fryer I'm wondering just how far I am from this lifestyle. 😆
10:59 ultra-rare moment of optimism in WH40k, even if it is bleak and pitiful, it’s still a ray of hope for someone like Joe
Joe, 7:15, this message is for you. They’re not mindless. They’re not just the masses. When you get home, your bare walls are mirrors of your own internal emptiness. She left you for SOMEONE… because you are the same NO ONE you see in Everyman. Stop. See others. Joe ignores. They ignore, they’re “lost in their own concerns,” as you are… and as we, of Earth2K’s “DimDark” cities, also do. Good morning, Joe, I saw you in the mirror within my own hab.
So basically, its like living in Leicester.
Lmao this sounds nicer than Leicester
Thnx for video, amazing channel and editing approach with synth) Good luck!
Another top tier video mate. Your quality is consistent and rivals the big channels, I hope you go a long way here you deserve it! We need more non-meme enjoyable content, and you explore aspects of the lore that others may overlook. Keep it coming mate I love it.
Much appreciated mate! Glad you liked the vid - more on the way
After watching this video, I understand why chaos gods like Nurgle would have such a strong presence. This is hell
Didn't know that Hive city life is Cyberpunk cranked up to 11
Cyberpunk but with a lot less colour and many more robes
Necromunda is really cyber punk.
10 whole square meters?! What a Luxury!
In hive world, How oxygen is produced ?
Rather than being produced, the o2 is mostly just recycled / scrubbed or converted from other gases. Some hives might also have a few algae farms that can produce some supply - also, the upper tiers of the hive would likely have gardens / parks / greenhouses etc so would throw a bit more air into the mix
Poorly. Many citizens use supplemental rebreathers at low elevation. Street level is hell.
I was looking for a new 40k tuber, was on fence until the synthwave intro kicked in and I'm sold. Subbed right up bud, lets get it.
Haha thanks mate - now you just need to check out the chimpwave volumes
(Modern real estate):
"Property is so expensive! A regular house costs over a million dollars!"
(Imperium real estate):
"I'll kill you for a window"
Please make a series out of this all the things you listed i would love to hear about especially guardsmen’s every day life
That was a dope vid! Great delivery,and presentation
This is one of the only 40k lore videos that didn't bore me to sleep, more please!
How does one ACQUIRE a hab-unit in a Hive City? Are there, like, realtors? Do you just kill someone and live in theirs?
Yes, depending on how high up you live.
Inherited from your ancestor who passed away after spending decades queuing up for and on his deathbed being granted one.
Probably one could be awarded if you are constantly overachiving your workquota without dropping in quality.
One of my favorite descriptions of a Hive World's hab blocks would have to come from Arch, as he basically calls the habs storage units, in which the millions of human tools are stored from floor to ceiling until needed.
This channel it's dripping with personality and character, so many channels focus on the "wow isn't this so dark, imagine lol" but you actually point how, by the common Joe of the imperium, that's just how things are, and how they just live day by day, just as we do, no extreme aspirations, no insane dreams, just living, or rather, surviving, it's the goal.
I'll be watching your other videos, I usually just put 40k videos as background noise but this actually made me stop what I was doing and actually listen, it felt like I was watching a movie.
Thanks mate ❤I do think 40k needs more 'showing' rather than 'telling' when it comes to living day-to-day (in every faction), I find it really refreshing looking into this stuff especially when most of the lore is mostly stuff that goes beyond mortal comprehension
@@dystopianchimp Easily done, too... it would be interesting for a story to involve some of the often-covered Space Marines doing battle in a hive city and being reminded how most of the imperium lives, and how privileged their own position is.
Being so heavily trained for loyalty, this would probably just remind them what they fight for - the day when the enemies of the Imperium (ie, everyone else) are defeated, the fighting may finally end, and all the resources and lives spent on weapons may instead be used to better the lives of the people. But still, it's going to have an emotional impact even on the Astartes.
Hardest struggle in a high-tech civilized world:
"Oh no this is a nightmare, my Noosphere connection is just 800Mbps and now I must play pixel games."
Happy to hear woman havent changed over the centuries.
I personally was very impressed by one scene in some book. Slaanesh's Astartes capture crew of Khornit's war ship, and they give drgs to one of captured slaves. The slave has a vision of paradise, and his paradise vision was simply sitting in the beautiful park, listening to birds, seeing skies and plants and sun. Each spaceship requires thousands of human to work, and usually they spend entire life onboard, and for that slave beautiful park was something incredibly luxurious. I thought and re-evaluate after reading a lot😅
I assumed that a "middle class" hab block in a stereotypical hive city would look like a council estate or a Soviet style apartment block.
Perhaps even a Dread style hab block (The 2012 movie) or City 17 from half life 2 including enforcers patrolling the streets and breencasts.
When I think Imperial "middle class" hab block, I to think of Soviet style apartment, but with Brazillian or Indian favella like slums and infrastructure from the 70's too
Don't knock the commie blocks. They are rather spartan, but they were built with urgency and they did achieve their primary goal: Housing huge numbers of people in acceptable conditions as quickly and affordably as possible.
@@vylbird8014 When refitted (like they're supposed to be) they can be pretty decent places all things considered. One of the things that more modern constructions could do is soundproofing, for one. Everyone I've talked to who's lived in one that's been properly maintained (which is a key factor), they quite liked it.
Great video I love to hear about normal life in the Imperium
This is what i would say is some of fthe flaws of 40k. having the average citizen living so badly will just make for a breeding ground for chaos. and its not really needed to have it so horrible for 40k to be grimdark universe.
like 16h workday is just ridiulous, also not needed for it to be grimdark and also makes for a breeding ground for chaos.
btw most slaves in history didnt work 16h a day
10square meter also isnt enough to contain 1/3rd of what you described for the guy who lost his wife. and this is what i mean, its uneccesary grim
a people living like this would constantly be making riots and accept chaos to the point its impossible to contain