College/University: Is It Worth It? - SimplyPodLogical #27
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On this episode of SimplyPodLogical, Cristine and Ben talk about their experience in University, how they chose their majors, the difference between undergrad and graduate school, campus culture, free speech, politics on campus, who should go to university/college, and scholarships and tuition fees.
0:00 - Hey what’s up holo everyone
0:17 - Today’s episode is brought to you by our cats
2:19 - Cristine is still having issues with her eyes
3:40 - Why Cristine advocates for higher education on RUclips
6:57 - Picking our majors
9:39 - Wanting vs. being pressured to go to college/university
15:50 - Best and worst thing about university
20:08 - Professors we hated
24:15 - Eating habits in university
26:43 - College parties
31:32 - Living on vs. off campus
34:31 - Scholarships and Canadian vs. American tuition fees
40:43 - Becoming less financially dependant on your parents
43:53 - Did we ever hand in work late?
47:50 - Co-op placements
50:39 - Going to university during a pandemic
55:59 - Are they any practical skills you gain from university/college?
58:26 - Why Ben dropped out of grad school, getting a job vs. staying in school
1:03:57 - Graduate school vs. undergrad
1:08:00 - Dating while you're in university
1:09:18 - Is there a liberal bias in university?
1:20:53 - Why we didn't do our PhD
1:23:19 - If we were starting university today what major would we choose?
1:24:38 - People want to thank Cristine for promoting education
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Congrats
I feel I will need to relisten to this pod I a couple years because I am many years away from uni
Me too
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I didn't think you two could get any more awesome but this is seriously life changing charity work. Congrats to everyone. Thank you guys so much.
Me: *literally on the second year of my PhD* “I should watch if Cristine and Ben think going to university is worth it or not”
so do u think its worth it? genuine question bc im a junior in high school and have no idea if i should go/go right after high school.
Hanta Bangtan it depends on what you want to do in your life. I always wanted to help humanity, I thought I would be a doctor, but science stole my heart so I am a researcher. Without university I would never have the knowledge and skills to do what I do!
@@chvrryluvr1056 It is worth it, however pick a good school, or the apropriate school for you, I went to "easier" university and now as I finished I feel like I wasnt challenged enough there. Definetly try getting opinions of students on the schools you are thinking of going to. However I am saying this as a person from a country where education is free, so if I had to put myself in debt to do this, no way in hell I would. Just look up jobs think about them google them look up what are they paying what is it that you do there, what personality/skill requirements they have etc., research this extensively before going to uni. This is the advice I would give myself at age 15. :D Also whatever you do try as many hobbies as possible ASAP.
Me: *literally being able to pay for college was never an option*
Waits to hear about this mystical experience and cries in poor.
Jes Greenwood I am so sorry to hear, being denied education and never being given a chance because of socioeconomical status hurts my heart, it is really unfair, the system in many countries is really terrible *cannot relate in European*
Cristine: passionate about holo, cats, tea, oats, and education. 👑
If you swap a few things around... holo, T.ea A.cademia C.ats O.ats 🌮 maybe she’s been telling us all along. 🤔
And sweatpants lol
And the sock lifestyle 😎
@@rachelcakes3929 this is so underrated omg this is actually genius
andrew wong thanks! I like puns and wordplay wayyyy too much 😊
I strongly believe that education should not be a luxury, it should be a human right. I started following you so closely because of your advocacy for education. I mean you're hilarious, and I probably would've watched your videos here and there; but I follow you as a person and as a role model because you're right, education isn't talked about or advocated for enough on mainstream RUclips. Thank you so much for your constant stand for people to seek higher education and continue developing themselves, and also pivoting the conversation about making it more accessible to those of us for whom it is not that simple to just plop into school and go forward. I love y'all so much!
I stayed the entire class, and would like to say that while polish mountain is what made you an influential woman, advocating education will always be your legacy 💜
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Oh boy, Ben thinks that Ben Shapiro should be banned from campuses. WOW.
ngl i totally love the idea of cristine outgrowing youtube and becoming a doctor in her field of interest. like, i don't imagine her giving up holo taco, i think that's around to stay for as long as it's lucrative, but youtube might not be a thing in 10-15 years, and cristine is incredibly intelligent, and youtube has helped her grow socially in a way that will make the trials of becoming a phD more feasible. cristine, you can do it, girl. we'll miss you when you leave social media, but you're already known fondly, and you'll be remembered that way too.
“The best thing I got out of that grad program was meeting you” my heart melted! That was so sweet.
That was very sweet, but kinda crazy to find out Ben didn't actually finish his master's🤯
Christine finding the bibliography to be the most fun is the nerdiest thing I ever heard and I love her for that.
Cristine: **enjoyed creating the bibliography in APA format**
Me: **war flashbacks**
*Laughs in Mendeley citation manager*
*Confused side eye in IEEE*
Citation Machine all day yo
Apa sucks 🤢🤮
In india, we have MLA format and boy, did it confuse us!🥲
Menchie acts like a child hugging her mom it’s adorable
Diego De La Riva *her mom hahaha I know
@@anahidmantl who's Diego de la riva ?
@@anahidmantl hey! Just curious! What does your name mean? It's beautiful
I just wanna say I love your name
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I definitely wouldn’t mind a full 90 minutes every Taco Tuesday, just a thought. ✨
As a non english native speaker all i hear is prof prof prof prof prof my prof and profs
I stayed for the whole class 😇
As someone in the states (va) the best advice I would give high schoolers here as far as picking a degree path is go to community college if you're unsure. It's cheaper, you can do a few classes and work while deciding what you really want, and even if you take a bunch of random 100 level courses in an array of topics it will mostly transfer to the 4 year of your choice. I did NVCC and worked odd jobs while doing my gen ed classes and would not have had it any other way. All credits transferred to gmu and went towards my undergrad degree.
However, my high school severely downplayed the community college route, and my guidance counselor practically told me I was throwing away my future. My fiance didn't even know that community college was an option until he was done with his bachelor's and wishes he had done community college so his loans wouldve been less. Heck, only way I'm able to afford my masters rn is I saved on my first 75 credits of undergrad and was mostly able to pay for them out of pocket.
I did the same thing at TNCC in va! It was the smartest decision financially
My 2-year-old daughter, Rose, is digging Menchie's appearance in this episode. She's saying things like "aww, so cute cat." "look tail" "aw purple cat" (no idea where she got purple from, but I think it's kind of fitting lol) "aw kitty cat come back here" and she's trying to pet her. Hope everyone has a great week!
Awww that's so cute!!! :3 much love to u and ur daughter
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@@avocado8137 That's so cute! Sending love to y'all too from Texas! 🧡🧡🧡
Ashleigh Glen I told him that your sending love and now he’s sending kisses 😭 I love him so much!
It’s not a SimplyPodLogical podcast without a simplytealogical question XDD
Yeeees
"A" question? Has it ever been only one?
Rate My Professor is literally my lifeline. I ignored a professor's bad reviews ONCE my first semester at my university, and I dropped that professor's course like 3 weeks into classes. I haven't ignored reviews on Rate My Professor since then.
Just a few days ago I was wondering if this was still a thing.
i use it religiously, especially now that classes are online and you cant just talk to other students and learn about teachers by word of mouth
God one time I took a class where the professor was rated poorly and it was a miserable experience. It was a full class of 80 students and by mid semester, there were 14 students. I stuck it out by I hated every minute of it and barely passed.
I'm not a big fan, at least at the uni I went to a lot of wonderful professors were given terrible ratings just because they had an accent.
@@darkfuji196 In their defense, I’ve had to drop multiple classes in NYC because I just could not understand their accents, and I knew other students who had to drop it too for the same reason. Clear English should be a basic requirement for teaching in English, it’s not fair to add another layer of confusion on because students can’t understand what they’re saying, it’s just not an effective learning environment.
Why am I, a grown ass woman on her way to getting a PhD, so interested in 2 people giving teenagers advice on starting uni? These two could talk about paint dry and I’d love listening!
I’m in grad school (not a phd ...yet) and I’m asking myself the same question. It’s such an interesting topic and we’re deep in the trenches of academia.
Lowkey Christine’s eyes just look like she’s wearing some cute red eyeshadow
CRISTINE
No h 👁👄👁
how does my comment have so this never happens when comment. by the off chance actually reads this spelled ur name wrong in my first comment and also i love that you advocate for education with your platform
Honestly, hearing that Ben didn't finish his thesis really just helped me. I also did a grad program in Canada and was among the top of my cohort but the academic environment was incredibly toxic. I ended up getting offered the job I went into the program for (without the MA qualification) and left the program in the middle of writing my MRP because the stress and abuse were just negatively affecting my mental health and it was a financial out. I've always felt a bit weird and kind of a failure that I quit right at the end but knowing that other people did the same and feel good about that decision... it just really helped. So, thanks Ben :)
I finished my thesis and I suffer depression and anxitey
I almost quit, just before my qualifying exam, because my advisor (inadvertently, she's a bit of a perfectionist) made it seem like this mountain of a task and I thought for sure I would just fail. It was a heartbreaking feeling at the time, because a lot of the jobs I want pretty much require the phd, and the thought of closing those doors was awful. But had no immediate job prospects, and didn't know what I would do if I DID quit. I'm glad I pushed through, and I've only got about 1.5 years left now. The dissertation will be hard, but I feel like it's not an IF, but a WHEN. But if I'd had better options, I may very well have called it quits
On the other hand, my husband is doing his PhD too, and I can't let him beat me at that ;)
Alex H im a bachelor student working for master and phd students in the labs and i can tell you it happens more often than you think! i find it ironic that i got a scholarship to work there and "sensibilize" me to research and try to make me want to do higher studies when really im just seeing how depressed most of those people are.
I also had a romantic view on academia before university. It was a great experience up to the masters degree, but I started to see both the pettiness and the whole 'in the ivory tower' culture of academia, so I decided against a phd, even though I enjoyed learning and reasearch.
What was toxic about the culture? I’m also interested in going to academia and I’ve never seen people talk about a toxic culture.
1:01:32 "The best thing I got out of the program was... meeting you."
Everybody say it with me now: "Awwww!"
The thing Ben talked about, how he thinks the system should be changed so that you learn all the basics in highshool an only do your major at university is exactly how we do it in Sweden, and I'm guessing they do the same thing in the rest of Scandinavia. We finnish "highshool" the year we turn 19, then we apply to the program we want at university, like law, medecine, teacher. The average/bachelor degree is 3 years, and some, like if you want to be a lawyer you do 4.5 years and if you want to be a doctor it take a little bit longer. I've always thought it was so strange that in the US/Canada you read things that have nothing to do with your degree, like reading math and English when your studying to become a social worker, especially considering how expensive it is (it's free in Sweden). I would be annoyed if I'm paying ridiculous amounts per year, and have my degree take a lot longer time then it should, meaning I have to pay more, because I have to take courses that have nothing to do with the field you want to work in.
Isn’t this why Scandinavia as a whole is considered one of the best, if not THE best, in the field of education in the world?
It's the same in Finland. It seems insane that people study like, high school level things in first years of university? In here, your program is what you do. I'm in history and there is only history in the program, from the very begining. A few courses of English and Swedish, and computer skills, but all from the perspectice of academic writing and my field of study.
I think 🤔 it causes the system to want people who are more willing to work harder and longer so they know who is serious about that career. IN the US we need more doctors but the acceptance is less than the demand which is why many people think they should make requirements less but others are against that because then everyone would just apply.
Decades ago it was like that in the US. Trade options are no longer promoted unless at technical schools (and even those tend to promote college over the trades or other skills). I don't know when or why that changed, but when I was in high school (25-ish years ago) both were still promoted (college and trades). It is no longer the case, at least not nationwide.
@@olayo53 We need more FAMILY doctors in the US, but they get paid the least. However medical school costs the same.
That's because the reimbursement board for Medicare disproportionately represents specialists and everybody overvalues themselves and disregards others. Insurance companies set their rate based on what the government pays. So family doctors get paid the least, have the same medical school costs, and are the front line in basic medical care.
BTW, with most insurance you don't get to go to a specialist unless referred to by a family practicioner.
things I wish I knew in high school:
1. getting a part time job is more important than extra-curriculars if you want to to be employable later
2. how to budget and save
3. you don't have to go to college right away just because that's what everyone else is doing
That third one is under-rated.
For me, because I was like Ben and learning is really easy, I was too immature for college. Time in real life would have been far better.
I’ve known some young adults who started making money and didn’t want to go back to school. They later regret that decision when they realize minimum wage isn’t enough to support them but it’s too late to go back. Sometimes going to uni/college right away is the best way.
@@shawneevee7490 yeah and I know a lot of people who thnx to going to university, they realised that's not the major they want to study, so they switched but they wouldn't know if they didn't go and tried.
@@recoil53 yes I wish I had of at least taken a year off. my problem was I wasted time and money in programs I didn't end up being interested in.
@@shawneevee7490 I have to disagree. it's never too late to go back. I've been out of high school for 10 years and I just went back. I wasted so much money in my earlier years on thing I wasn't interested in because I felt I had to. Now I've found something I'm passionate about from being in the real world. There are plenty of people who go back to college as adults. It is possible. There's plenty of part-time schooling options and learning geared towards mature students. Those who say "its too late to go back" just lack the motivation. If you're not happy with your life change it, there's always a way, you might just have to work harder. Working full time and doing part-time school is tough, but it's something I really want so it will be all worth it in a couple years when I'm licensed and I'm able to be proud of my career.
When Ben talked about his attitude towards essay writing at 45:25, and that sort of defence mechanism... I felt that
Same, I mean I only just finished year 10 but I can acknowledge that I do the same thing to some extent, so I'm worried about how I'll work throughout the rest of high school. Needless to say, I felt called out.
I went back to university pretty late, according to some country's standards. Back in 2010 when I graduated high school I had no idea what I wanted to do. I spent three years jumping between different jobs. I reached a point where I felt like I needed a change of scenery so I became an au pair and lived abroad for two years. When I came back to my country in 2015, I continued working with children in a preschool setting, first as a sub teacher and then I got hired at a preschool and I worked there for 2 years. But being uneducated I obviously wasn't getting paid as much as others with a degree and it was harder for me to find jobs. I went back to university in January 2018 a month before my 27 birthday. I just finished the first week of my sixth semester and I'll be graduating next June. To me, I definitely feel like university is worth it but I don't know if pressuring people to go to university as soon as they graduate high school fits everyone. Here in Sweden, it's pretty common that people go back to university at an older age.
I agree. It's not right for everybody. I know people who felt pressured and they didn't end up graduating or if they did, they never got a job using the degree. Then they're stuck with loans they can't afford to pay off. I love that she advocates for education but really, just follow your passions. And do what makes you happy. Nobody should feel ashamed because they didn't get a college education. There are other things to be proud of.
I don't necessarily regret my education but my disability ended up getting so bad I never applied my degree. I knew I had a disability I just didn't expect to end up on social security. With 17k in debt to loans. Everyone kept pushing me and I appreciate that but ultimately it didn't lead to a career. I'll always be a better version of myself for what I learned and how that shaped me. I'm actually glad I didn't keep going to college after my associates degree. I think people should get an education but as long as getting an education means decades of debt...I don't wanna pressure people. Some people are not cut out for that kind of learning. Everyone is so different. I have friends who have learning disabilities or other various disabilities that get in the way. And I support what they decide to do but I'd hate for someone to take the advice to go to school because they felt pushed, and turn around and resent that.
I took a year off after high school and then I was strongly pressured by my parents and by my boyfriend at the time to go to university and to get a degree. I studied 3 years in a field I randomly picked at the last minute. I liked my classes and professors and I also was very interested in my studies but in the end I still dropped out because of mental health problems and financial problems as well. Thankfully I didn't have to pay for my university studies (in my country bachelor's degree is free in public universities). I don't regret it but I feel like it was to soon for me and it wasn't my choice. I'm now 27 and finally feeling like I know what I want to study and who I wanna become in life. I have been so stressed about my future since I was 16 and graduating from middle school (in my country we graduate high school when we are 18-19 but I went to school a year later so I graduated when I was 19. Also our high school is 3 years but we still go to school 12 years total). Anyhow, I think getting a degree is important but only if it's the right choice for you and at a right time. I know many people like myself who have dropped out or haven't never used their degree in their life so do what's right for you and don't let anyone else pressure you to doing something you don't want to do. I hope I wasn't rambling too much 😆😅
Considering how many allergy tests you’ve had, as a person with an autoimmune disorder, you may potentially consider it isn’t an allergy. I’ve had autoimmune eye reactions similar to exactly how your eyes look here. I also separately had skin reactions. Both were thought to be allergy related; I had a skin biopsy at one point. Eventually based on many things, but particularly T cells and a hyper immune response in blood samples, it was determined that my body was attacking itself.
Allergies are very similar in presentation because both are an autoimmune response. But allergies are the result of an external cause, autoimmune disorders are an internal cause.
Jenn Righter I have been thinking autoimmune disorder myself...
1:07:42 Metals?
I have always had symptoms you described, what is the autoimmune condition you have called? I would like to look it up, because I cant seem to find, what's making my skin react.
@@ViCTiMoFouRSoCieTY So, unfortunately, just like with allergies, MOST autoimmune disorders have very similar symptoms. Mine is actually pretty rare, particularly outside of the Asian population. It's very highly unlikely that someone would have mine; with that disclaimer it is Chronic Epstein-Barr Syndrome. BUT, when I had the most severe skin and eye issues, I was diagnosed with acute cutaneous Lupus. It's not the Lupus you generally hear about, and it can result in complications and other disorders, but usually resolves. Mine did resolve after almost two horrible years of skin issues. Again, not a common thing to suffer from.
Autoimmune disorders are very frustrating. They're difficult to get diagnosed. Six years before I had the skin/eye issues was when I was finally diagnosed with EBS. The only reason I believe I got a diagnosis was due to how SEVERE my health issues were (swollen liver and spleen, long term high grade fever, rapid and extreme weight loss, etc).
If you have a doctor and can afford to make an appointment, do so. Let the doctor know that you've had these undiagnosed and unresolved issues and you're wondering if it could be an autoimmune issue. You pay the doctor, they should care about you and listen to your concerns; if they don't, find another doctor (I had to do that). I also have to stress one more time that MANY conditions have similar symptoms, it can be easy to fall down a Web MD rabbit hole and that is not good for mental health (at least from my experience).
@@DiggyCrafts She's spoken about her multitude of allergen tests and those always include metals. I'm obviously not diagnosing her, but with the amount of allergy tests she's taken, I'm surprised her doctors haven't considered that it may not be an allergy at all.
Beyyyn goes through this cycle of looking like a mountain man and then clean shaven again and then somewhere in between 😄😄😄 no shade, my boyfriend does too.
Simply: At least you know it’s Tuesday.
Me an Australian: Are you sure about that?
Taco Tuesday = taco Wednesday in Australia
Heyy!!! Same here in the Philippines 🤣
This is me when an Aussie Channel says it's Friday. Is it tho
24:31 surprisingly I haven’t heard about that among my friends, quite the opposite I’d say. I lost 15 pounds 1st semester cause of stress and poor eating habits (studying all day and no time for eating) and quite a lot of my friends had similar experience 🤔
Lesson here: please take care of yourself and your health, my poor choices led me to bad grades and eating disorders. When I started eating healthier, suddenly my grades were a lot better and *I felt better*
My tip is to keep snacks basically everywhere in your house/apartment/dorm room where you will sit for a while to study or work on coursework. Also always have snacks with you and water. Anything simple that you like and can eat like granola bars, trail mix, anything is better than realizing you should have eaten 4 hours ago.
Hi guys, fellow allergic person here. I'll mention my usual suspects and some remedies in case it helps you. For cristine, check your pillow! Some people develop allergies to down feathers in pillows/duvets, but mine are down alternative and I'll get puffy eyes if I haven't washed my pillows in a while and they're dusty. I throw mine in the washer on the hottest setting and dry on the hottest setting and that usually fixes my issue. Also, I was allergic to the scents/dyes in laundry detergent/fabric softener so I have to use scentless detergent.
I saw the biggest difference in my allergies when got air purifiers for the house (I have a big one for the living room, and a small one for my bedroom). These could help Ben with the cat allergies too. My mom is allergic to cats (and I have 2) but was totally fine when I ran the purifier in her bedroom when she visited. They are relatively expensive ($150 USD for the smaller one, 450 for bigger one), but it's made such a huge difference to me. I've seen the cat god Jackson Galaxy recommend them for those who have cat allergies, but love and live with cats.
Good luck and hope you feel better soon!
Considering how many allergy tests she’s had, as a person with an autoimmune disorder, she may potentially consider it isn’t an allergy. I’ve had autoimmune eye reactions similar to exactly how her eyes look here. I also separately had skin reactions. Both were thought to be allergy related; I had a skin biopsy at one point. Eventually based on many things, but particularly T cells and a hyper immune response in blood samples, it was determined that my body was attacking itself.
Allergies are very similar in presentation because both are an autoimmune response. But allergies are the result of an external cause, autoimmune disorders are an internal cause.
Yes, as someone with an auto immune disorder and allergies second all this.
I'm piggy-backing on your comment to say I had an allergic reaction to new furniture. I guess it was some chemical treatment of a bookcase I got that did not agree with my eyeballs. I had to air it out in a garage for several weeks before I could move it back into my bedroom.
Maybe it's proteins or something she's been taking since getting into fitness. Hate to disappoint you Cristine, but that's just pure chemistry and over-all, not a good, long-term thing for you.
I am 32 and I just started my last semester of my 2 classes needed for my Associates! I should be farther along at my age but I’ve lived on my own since I was 19 and have always worked full time since I was 16 so getting school completed has been a challenge and it feels good to be so close to the end. I will also be continuing for my bachelors and then my masters and ultimately my doctorate because I am looking to become a school psychologist ❤️ Never give up!!
I think taking your time is better anyway! I got my undergrad degree when I was 23 and ended up with a bunch of unrelated jobs and now have settled on a career that I don’t need a degree for but want to go back to school for but because my degree was a BFA and now I’m working in fitness I’m starting all over anyway and I’m almost 29 now lol. Anytime is the right time if it works for you and that means the amount of time it takes to finish school and the time you decide to start in my opinion.
I took a similar route. I also started at a community college and just finished my B.A in Psych. This fall I am starting my PhD in Education with a specialization in Human Development.💕 My graduate program enrolled so many first-gen students and it gives me so much hope to persist! I wish you the best C:
You too!
Congrats!
Having a college experience that isn’t the ideal live in the dorms, go to class with friends, go study, go party, all that jazz has made me feel SO isolated. I ran away from an abusive home with very little money to New York City to go to school and finally be free. I’m a junior now (I should be a senior tho) and I have not made a single friend. All I do is go to work, and go to school and struggle to find time to study and sleep. I just wanna let anyone else who has to work full time and somehow manage to get school done, that there is no shame in going at your own pace. It really really hurts to watch the people I went to high school with get to have fun and graduate “on time” but I’m still here struggling and not having fun. You’ll get through it, and I’m proud of you. Other people don’t recognize the privilege they have when they don’t have to work and go to school and pay rent and internet and gas and electric and transportation bills. Acknowledge that you are not them, and that you will go on your own path. Try to make friends but if you can’t (like me lol) it’ll be okay I promise. And even if that means taking off for a little or not going back at all, all that matters is that you’re trying your best. That’s all you can ask of yourself. I believe in you💖
Thank you very much for your comment. I cried during the podcast, because Cristine's and Ben's stories about university sounded like how I hoped things would be for me, but they weren't at all. It's nice to find someone who acknowledges that going to college may not be just be an unequivocally fun experience for some.
I fled an abusive home and moved to another city in the Netherlands to enter university. Now, eight years later, I am still an undergraduate student and everyone I was sort of close to has now graduated from their Master's program already. It took me 4 years to make those friends, but at least I have those now and they're very important to me, especially since I've cut all ties completely with my relatives. I have burnt out 7 times and suffered countless depressions and it's just hard to convince myself that I deserve to be in uni and am not just a complete failure (as my "father"(hate that word) always used to say).
My student debt is massive (rent and stuff is so expensive, my God) and I haven't been able to find a job, due to a combination of rather severe knee issues and extreme fear of failure. I was hoping to pursue an academic career, but I'm now starting to rethink that, because the culture at university (at least here) is so incredibly toxic. My student loan ends in a year, and I'm just terrified of becoming homeless. My life has gotten better over the years, but I still feel very lonely in my constant worries.
I don't know you or your story, but I just wanted to say that I appreciate that you're here, sharing your kindness with everyone. Leaving your parental home in those circumstances must have been very hard for you, and I'm so sorry for everything you've had to suffer. I can't help you in any practical way, but I guess I am sending you love from across the ocean. It's very nice of you to say such kind words to strangers on the internet. Please don't forget to also say them to yourself. I wish you all the best.
@@ninawth awe thank you for your kind reply. I'm sorry about your experience, but I'm glad you've found some friends to help and that my comment could resonate with you. I had to take a whole year off after being put in the hospital (my school sent me by force, it was terrible) and i decided that i can't go back full time in order to not end up there again which is extending how long it'll take for me to graduate but that's okay. I've come to terms with it. There's no shame in how long these journeys take us. I am sending all the hope and love and prosperity i can possibly muster your way. You are so so very strong for getting this far, and i hope you know that. If you ever need someone to talk to or advice or maybe just a funny meme to make you smile, feel free to reach out to me on social media. I'm @floewaii on every platform (twitter, insta, all the things).
You sound like an amazingly strong person! Hang in there. I have confidence that it will be worth it in the long run.
I had a history professor early on in uni who definitely had a political bias. To the point where he would give me failing grades on essays because I had a different opinion as him. This was confirmed when I looked at graded essays of my classmates and saw their horrible grammar and their two short paragraphs of information, but with a high grade and different opinion to mine. Meanwhile, I'm a communications major and was experienced in writing and speaking, always getting good grades.
I learned the hard way very early on that there is political bias in school. Some professors more or less than others. And very very few of them are actually able to remain objective when grading.
So what did I have to start doing? Immediately upon starting a class, I'd study the professor. Figure out how they leaned and then base my "opinions" around their opinions. Even if all I was doing was lying... Never had a problem again.
^^^probably the best job training youve ever gotten. How to agree with assholes
i find this bonkers. classmates, including myself, openly debate with professors. a lot of business students are openly left leaning and communism is brought up, and when i took a philosophy and ethics class the students talked about their experiences with Christianity and pro-life sentiments. there are MULTIPLE, like, a lot of "young republican" groups that sit outside the student building. the university wouldn't even do anything when nazis showed up. no, not exaggerating, nazis. they had horrible fliers they pasted everywhere with disturbing pictures depicting Jewish and Mexican people
"Other forms of skills" I loved how you put it, Cristine! I grew up in an artistic / get-a-job-to-pay-the-bills family and I chose college but my sister continued her training/work as an artist. Knowing your options is so important!!!
💿Cristine: Pardon me while I take the cat hair out of my mouth so I can speak 😹 so true SO TRUE!!!😹
Same but with rabbit hair 🤣
puts college/university in the title *university ads intensify*
I always wondered how they payed for like 3 whole college tuitions but now I realize they were Canadian. That price is wildly different in America 😳
Right?! When I went to community college almost 10 years ago, I had to pay about 5k/year with grants. I just got laid off & thought about going back to school, those same classes are now about 25-35k! I saw that & changed my mind pretty quick
nobody: 👁👄👁
ben: “i had a romantic view of university”
I’m a recent subscriber and only because Cristine and Ben promote responsible things like pursuing education and having a realistic attitude to towards life. Keep going! Love you both and your subscriber community!
I wasn't going to listen to this because I graduated over 15 years ago...however at 10 mins struck a cord when asked the question 'did you want to go to uni or felt pressure?' my experience was very much the opposite..I dreamed about going...but even family members thought I couldn't because of finances! But I proved them wrong! I believe that I was the first out of my siblings and my extended family to get a degree (another family member did go to a polytechnic but that is like community college here not 'ivy' league sort of thing...so they got a HND not a degree but equivalent). I just want to put this out there for any kids who's family is not encouraging! My parents totally supported me though, it was my extended family who didn't! I would love to get my masters still though at some point!
Happy to report Rate My Professor is alive and well hahaha. Entering my senior year of uni and have never failed to check prof reviews before taking!
I absolutely love Ben and Cristine’s thought processes. They just seem so in touch, realistic, and humble.
Exactly! When Ben talked about their classmates protesting outside of their apartment complex, I was shocked by how out of touch for how those people are, and I loved hearing about him explaining why it was such a reach with given social context behind it.
When ben said that one of the best thing he got from grad school was meeting Cristine, makes me want to believe in love 🤣
Dear American Students,
As a small town young lady.... consider starting at tech colleges! At the very least, for your generals. I found it to be the most helpful thing I could’ve done. Plan ahead on what 4 year university you’d like to attend and find a tech college that has credits that will transfer to that university. It helps lower cost in my experience! Apply for those scholarships and do your best to avoid loans if you can! I know that’s not always possible though. ❤️
I'm a 33yo male. I went to school for art, focusing on illustration. I work in the medical field now and that's only for about the past 4 years but I love it. But it fulfills and engages a different part of something in me. It's only until recently I've really started getting back into my art and working on building a fan base for what I create.
Simply put, you never really know where your life is going to lead you. Keep an open mind.
I've been seeing/hearing this "online education isn't worth it" and "I'd take a gap year" a lot this year.
Having completed the entirety of my graduate school online, I can tell you that yeah, it's hard not being there. But that doesn't mean that you're just going to pick up a book on electromagnetic field theory and read it for comprehension and application on your own anyway. *That* is what university is for.
Just because you might not have the exact experience you were expecting doesn't mean that it's not worth doing. By the end of this year, you'll have one extra year of school under your belt *and* you'll have better experience with virtual meetings (which is becoming a greater skill to have in the workforce).
Matt Schaffer I’m so glad someone else understand this. I’m in my last months of my master, and I did it online, because I work Monday through Saturday so I don’t have time to go to school. And I must say it’s not easy having a 100% online program, but now I know more about platforms and different uses to many common apps . So no I wouldn’t take a gap year.
I see where you're coming from and I agree to an extent. An online program is definitely better than nothing at all and definitely worse than a regular program. But what most people are referring to when they say "it's not worth it" is the fact that most institutions are not lowering their tuitions even though the programs are entirely online. People don't want to pay the full sum since they're not getting the full value, and I think that's pretty fair, especially when you consider the ridiculous tuitions for private colleges in America.
@@čelična_alhemičarka Tuition is the price you pay for instruction. If you have to pay full price for food and board, I'm all about fighting that if you don't end up getting it. Online school is the same as in-person school; i.e., you're receiving the same instruction. Tuition doesn't need to be lowered.
There is a big difference between a well designed online program and one that was put together by a professor with low digital literacy or who doesn’t innovate their teaching. There are some professors who focus more on their research and teaching is just a means to an end to get there. I completed about half of my undergrad online and just started my masters this semester. An asynchronous professor reading the slides the book provided with no thought to supplemental materials with mandatory discussion posts for participation points honestly isn’t worth it. A class with live discussion or a professor who utilizes a variety of methods to convey information - that’s different.
Edited to add: yes, the profs that don’t innovate aren’t great in person either, they often lecture more than teach, but online is one more barrier. The networking component is also way more important than people think as well.
@@mattschaffer147 exactly... Logically speaking, the only thing the schools are saving money on by not having to pay it is for electricity bills in the buildings. Everything else they still have to pay, like the cost of buildings, property tax, maintenance, employees, professors, etc.... Now, do I think that some universities (*cough cough ivy league) charge way too much for tuition in the first place and are definitely raking in some profit, yeah. But that's beside the point. 😂
All the Americans are in the comments wishing they could just pay $7k a year for school 😭😅
Crazy, I live in Holland and pay around 2k a year. Which is kinda cheap but as an young adult already a lot of money..
Please stop. We are already crying just from seeing the price of one semester.
I went to a state school that was $9k a year and only paid 3k just because I got good grades in high school 🤷♀️
bro 90k man 😭
In Germany you pay around 600-700€ per year, depending on what university you go to. Private ones cost the same amount per month.
As a UK listener, I'm curious about whether in the next few years, tuition giveaways may extend to international listeners, even if the amount was reduced and only covered the same amount as you would give to a Canadian winner, as I understand you want to help as many people as possible. I know that it would be extremely helpful to even receive half a year's tuition, to reduce the amount we need to pay off by just a little.
To end on a positive note, however, thank you guys for being a constant source of positivity for all of your viewers and for making my Taco Tuesdays more colourful (:
So people in UK also have to pay for tuition?
vera it’s free in scotland but not elsewhere
I enjoyed the whole podcast, and as a person who enters first year of university this fall, this was very welcomed. It is unfortunate that the majority of students won't have a 'normal' experience, yet we could still take advantage of every resource that is currently available and try and use the current situation to fully focus on learning and becoming independent. Thank you ben and cristine for being you, not judgemental, approaching each topic in a neutral way and supporting education on this platform. Good luck to canadian graduates for this giveaway!
I wish you all the luck! As a lecturer at a German university, I can tell you that the staff is generally aware of how difficult your situation is (as "freshers" in times of covid) and we try to help as much as possible! I know that in my course, the older students are organizing a discord server to welcome everyone who is new and we really want to try to help you find your way! Good luck!
Me too , and i am really really scared!!!!!
ben: "you look great btw"
me: awwwww
cristine: "YOU DON'T HAVE TO LIE TO ME"
me: whut
but ok cristine you look great
yasmine anastasia timestamp?
@@zaymaashraf2059 3.15
For those struggling, here's me at 27 still struggling with exactly where I want to take my degree... After high school, I went to community college for a buffer. Post community college, I was torn between what will make me money vs what I have always wanted to do. Had the conversation with myself too many times to count that I would rather pursue something actually interesting to me rather than just something that will earn me a paycheck.
Thank you for telling your story. I want to be an artist but I know being an accountant or teacher can be a more reliable job.
I've dropped out of college to work full time, at the time it sounded like a good idea but after 5 years I've started wondering if I should go back to school
I wish I’d done this! My family pressured me to go into uni (in the UK) for teaching, I don’t want to be a teacher so I wasted my loans etc. on a degree I don’t want to use 😂 now I’m stuck! x
Sometimes i think about going BACK to get a quick vocational degree to make the money so i can do what I've studied and am more passionate about in my own time too. I like, like Beyyyn, dropped out near the end of my grad program. I definitely feel strongly that studying what you love and have passion for is more fulfilling but also being open to other education to fund your life is a good idea too. Find the compromise. In the US you might double major in accounting and music or art what have you. Do both.
Alister D K I keep looking at getting a masters that combines what everyone says I’m good at (the teaching my family talked me into) with the Psychology I wanted to do! It’s the funding that prevents me but I’m spending my time trying to find the right path for me! x
Christine: What was the worst part for you?
Ben: People.
Meeeee!!!!
Ben talking about getting his Mr degree had me in stitches. 😂 (Also you're both great.)
"Tuition is only, on average, $7,000 a year.
Me: *chokes in American* well I should have gone to Canada for college
It's only that cheap if you're a Canadian resident - but it would still be cheaper than the U.S. for an equivalent education. I think $7k Cdn tuition would be something like $16k to $18k Cdn for an international student... it depends on the school. Of course that's would only be ~ $12k to $14k USD, not including housing food etc...
And here we are in Europe (France and Belgium) with our
And then there is me, who pays 300 € per year (350$)...
I paid $6400 in Canada and $15000 in the US. That doesn’t include living expenses, just tuition.
@@xeniaudovenko in Greece university is free, you only pay for your living expenses (and maybe some books)
I'm actually on my second day of university (socially distanced, mask-on, hybrid online and in-person classes) and it's a struggle to make friends, especially when this first week will all be online. However, I've boomed in personal responsibilities. Based on my high school results, you'd assume that I would never go to college; but I'm here and already striving to improve. It's useful
I'm on my second day of my third year here, and it's a struggle it really is a struggle to make friends and get to know people.
I graduated mumble mumble years ago. From my background, in multiple ways it was just assumed I would be in college (as a Chinese American and an overwhelming majority of students in my high school did).
But I really would have been better served being out in the world a year or two first.
I love how grounded and logical you guys are. It's refreshing to have honesty and intelligence on RUclips. Genuine and generous and simply kindness ❤
Ben: Some people that know since 16 years old that they wanted to be a Vet
Me: 🙋🏽♀️ but like... 4 years old?
I felt very called out. 😂
I found Christine's point about presenting in a "home environment" to be really interesting. As an extrovert, I thrive in presentation situations where I can make direct eye contact with audience members and I can establish some sort of connection during the presentation. In both university and high school I gave presentations to crowds of 300+ and although I felt some nerves I generally enjoyed the presentations once they were underway. Us extroverts really do recharge in the presence of others (or at least I do,) so to me being at home doing a presentation in front of a screen would be incredibly intimidating.
Same! I'm not a fan of having a conversation with the void haha
Yes I can relate as someone who thrives in presentations in person! it has been hard to have that connection. It has also been hard to stay in touch and have human conversations! I might have gone a little off topic but it’s true
Also students and other people need to be around people so as soon as it is safe and back to normal (or as normal as it can get ) I think it is important to get kids back to school
(This is just my opinion)
Agreed!
I am an introvert. I am pretty good about making presentations in person, but I really hate videoing myself and making online presentations. I am a professor and when classes went online last semester I had to pretend I was a RUclipsr to get through my last few weeks of class content on video. But I hated it. I'm never going to do RUclips, lol. I like face-to-face interaction too much. I think it comes down to what you are used to.
Christine: studying hard and acing my midterms
Me: Cries in STEM
Alexandria Shields too real
Love seeing other women in STEM
Cristine with NO H. But seriously, mad props for being in a STEM field, my dumb ass hates math.
also crying in stem! what's your major?
Maeve Jones I know you probably weren’t asking me but I’m curious to see everyones! I just graduated with a Bachelor of Science in Neuroscience!
I'm about to return to school to obtain my BEd in Ontario. I'm 31 years old. I've spent the last few years working to afford this degree. I am so amazingly happy and proud of Cristine and Ben for helping out not just students but recent graduates. I was very lucky to graduate from my undergrad in 2011 and then moved abroad to teach English. There I was able to pay off my loans and save money for this next degree. It's not easy starting school during a pandemic. I came home with few opportunities for part time work outside of school but I'm lucky to have family to rely on. The Nailogical team is amazing in helping out those who graduated during this difficult time. I feel like Cristine and Ben are less celebrities to me than just....cohorts that have the ability to help others. And that's really inspiring! Good job guys!
I know that I'm a week late, but as a student in my last semester of college this was the most uplifting thing I needed to hear right now. While I was watching/listening, I was working on my classwork, which is stressful but your conversation got me through it. Of course having all online classes is not what I thought my last semester would be looking like, but it's what I've got to do to get into the next step of my life. I had an internship this past spring semester, which in the end landed me with a full time job that I will be starting once I graduate. Hearing both of your words just makes me feel better about what I am accomplishing and to know that yes right now is hard, from classes to pandemic, but we will all get through it. Just one step at a time. Thank you both.
It was so interesting to hear you guys talk about politics, maybe for a future podcast you could take a political compass test!
On the note of biases in higher education:
I’m in my final year of high school in Australia, but I take extension courses. A recurring topic that stemmed from a seminar our extension history class attended with other classes and school groups from across the state, where a student from another class asked the university professors presenting the seminar why there is a “left-wing bias” in the history courses in Australian high schools. My general opinion that I’ve drawn from the many hours our class of 2 students and one teacher with a PhD in history has discussed this; you can’t truly engage with the humanities in good faith (especially history) while being right-wing or conservative. Analysing the major historical debates of the 20th/21st century like Irving v. Lipstadt or Reynolds v. Windschuttle reveal a total lack of empathy from the conservative side that almost always cherry-picks facts or totally lacks knowledge on the subject. Taking any of the senior high school history courses in Australia show how harsh class/race/gender divides often rooted in conservatism and right-wing beliefs are problematic and harmful to majority of the population. The only people I’ve encountered in these courses who aren’t left leaning by the end of the course are usually STEM bros just taking the course because it was all that was left and/or misogynistic and racist pigs who’ve taken absolutely no effort to engage with the course work or related class discussion. This is also the reason most people come out of a university degree left leaning, especially a humanities or arts degree because you’re forced to engage in politics and such in a way that acknowledges how conservatism only benefits a small minority of nobody and how problematic and harmful that is. People who come out still strongly conservative seem to never engage in these courses or discussions in good faith and therefore can’t be swayed into having any empathy for disenfranchised or disadvantaged groups of society.
“the facts have a left-wing bias” as the saying goes. But yes, you’re fully correct. Engaging with different perspectives in good faith requires a significant degree of open-mindedness, which has been politicized as being “left-wing” lmao
I think this is a very good point, that once you start learning a topic it often inevitably becomes "left-leaning". Sadly, I think the right wing are fully aware of this, and that is why the predominant form of attack on education is not on how it is taught, but rather to remove certain topics from the curriculum altogether.
I am Australian as well (but older, finished high school in Syd in 2007) and for example we were taught at school about how the White Australia policy was bad and overturned in the 70s, and that Australia had taken heaps of refugees post-WWII and after Vietnam - but we hardly discussed at all more recent issues around refugees (for eg Tampa happened while I was in high school) or the real issues impacting Aboriginal and Torres Straight Islander people in Australia.
I hope some more current issues ARE now being discussed in schools, but certainly it was never the case when I was there - which is problematic, because students might come out of school feeling somewhat "left-leaning", but they haven't been made aware of the real issues going on right now that require action from those on the left (unless they have taken time to look into these things on their own, or their school/teachers were going beyond the curriculum). And sadly my experience has been most of those people then either just keep looking at issues saying "oh terrible" but not doing anything, or gradually become more right wing as they realise that when issues impact them directly they'd prefer things to stay as they are
Great point. Like when college teaches global warming as something the scientific community agrees on and you see the charts and data...lol how on earth could you call it a hoax? And after you take any sociology class you realize that right wingers with an education have kind of doubled down on their horrible take. Like you mean you're just willfully ignorant and don't care about people? Or you actively vote against the best interest of the people you love, or even yourself? Ok then.
I'm so grateful that you guys show such an honest and realistic outlook on life. It's nice, like I'm just having a late night discussion with some friends or some people I've met spontaneously on campus.
I love this podcast and it’s everything I hoped it would be: intelligent, informed, and in a lot of ways profound conversations. Thank you so much for doing this podcast. It stimulates me as a citizen and makes me think in ways that I usually don’t when I get onto RUclips.
Me: having a life crisis because I start university next year
Cristine: well here you have
same!! I’m a junior in high school this year and I’m stressed
No h
Same ... I am in the 12th grade and next year I have to start college😫😫😫
I'm starting in October o. O
Me personally I prefer university over high school. So good luck guys and don't be scared. 😊
I'm currently a senior in my university. I feel really bad for those people joining into their first years now. For me, the first year was were I met a lot of people (although now my friend circle has narrowed a lot). That year is pivotal cause you learn basic social skills and they won get to experience this. I remember when my university went online at the beginning of the year, it was nice at first cause we weren't forced to listen to lectures and we could watch it comfortably on our beds and do whatever. But it kicked us in during exams when we couldn't figure out anything. It brought upon a lot of uncertainty among students, depression, inability to leave to your country of residence (most if not all of the students are international) and lots of connection issues. That alone affected our grades negatively that the university ended upto having a pass/fail option instead of grade system. Although that helps our GPA, we're so socially deprived that it's taking a toll on our daily lives.
Me too! I was like Cristine and have a great group of friends in university, and I've met them through living in dorms so I really loved the social aspect of going to university, and just living on campus in general. Now with COVID the dorms are closed and I just feel like that has been taken away from me and its really upsetting sometimes. I also just feel really bad for the freshmen because they don't get to live the full on experience like we do. Now that I think of it I have really taken that for granted, not that I didn't make the most out of it but in the sense that I thought it was just normal to do whatever we want while in university, when situations like this could happen and it made me realise that this "full on" experience is not something that's promised for sure.
Ben’s story about their experiences at their condo really resonated with me. I think that was a very valuable, well articulated discussion. I found it really refreshing to listen to and I hope others found it comforting as well. I think we need to listen to one another, truly try to understand others’ experiences rather than label others based on our mere perception of them. But in our imperfect world, I fear that is too much to ask of people.
Hey Cristine you are the reason I dropped out of art school and started the journey to get the degree I really wanted in a STEM field thank you so much for being a strong female role model.
I really relate to what Cristine said about thriving in a physical school setting. I've been doing online classes even before COVID due to social movements in HK. And I just remember crying about not being able to spend my last year of University inside campus because I am also someone who really need a suitable environment to be motivated and be happy about what I do. It's not an excuse - I still get work done and I still study at home. But it felt really depressing and pointless and not motivating in general. Im that kind of person who thrive on having routines. So not being able to go to school was really saddening for me, especially when I'm supposed to be interning and writing my thesis. I was really considering to defer my last year, but because of the political situation in HK my family has to move out of the country to the UK so I had no other options but to continue my studies during the pandemic.
Yeah I’m not a fan of e-learning :/
Not having that 'farewell tour' is also a bummer. It's a life transition that you know is coming, but you don't get to live it.
Hey! Fellow HKer here, just want to send you some love, it’s been a really tough couple of years for us :( ♥️
I'm so sorry for your situation. I hope you are able to find stability and new prospects for your future here in the UK! Love from London x
I have a similar feeling as Cristine does with students starting university during this pandemic. During my first year of college I was broke, homeless for part of it, and working my ass off just to keep myself alive. If I had to start school during this pandemic I don’t think I would have ever gone on to post-secondary education. I didn’t have family to help me out and I was really only able to stay afloat because of government assistance and working almost full time.
To everyone starting college/university right now, I’m so proud of you. To everyone taking the year off because it made more sense for you, I’m glad that you’re doing what’s best for you.
This week is the first week of my masters program (I’m on my second day!) and I’m fortunate enough to have been able to budget and have a flexible job to continue to be able to work through all of this. The imposter syndrome is kicking in, but I’m in the program with my best friend and I think we’ll be able to survive together.
Props to you!!! Well done :)
I am actually a college admissions counselor with a passion for higher education, and hearing you talk about your passions for learning is so uplifting. I love working with students to help them get into school and guide them through the process! I’m in graduate school as well for my masters in business admin and a healthcare management certificate, and my undergrad was in business with a focus in accounting - I definitely learned some valuable skills there!
I love these podcasts, i listen to them every wednesday (because i'm from Europe) while I work at a gallery doing my working practice for my diploma. It always makes me feel so good about working on something I love, which is the conservation and restoration of artwork, while listening to smart conversations. I always loved your stand on education, i feel the same way and it feels like I'm talking to a friend about something we're equally passionate about. Plus the longer the podcasts are, the better! 😄 ❤️
If Cristine got a doctorate we could call her simplydoclogical 😂
*Hey simply... I have a request...* 🙂🙂
Could there pls be an episode where its you and jen and you have some girls talk... This might be interesting for the majority of your fandom and might also help some younger girls... *You are truly an inspiration and I would love to hear you talk about this...* 🤗🤗🤗🤗
yes!!
What do you mean girl talk? Like periods and puberty?
I feel like, Ben has to be in girls talk because this duo-podcast really shows the importance of having a third voice in a conversation. If "girls talk" would have girls forever only, then that would not help humans to understand each other a lot
@@timetraveller3076 I agree, I think its important for all genders (or non) to have well rounded understanding of the human race. I think singling women out perpetuates the idea the women things are icky and men don't need to hear about it... meanwhile there was a challenge going around on tik tok where women asked their boyfriends and husbands how they think a pad works. I was appalled and almost angry about the answers given. You could tell most of them we not staged and were honest thoughts, like "its like a band-aid so you just tape over it right?" Or farther out ideas that I wont detail here. All genders need to understand each other.
@@sierralizotte3084 Yeah! And we can't totally blame men because of their ignorance, not all environment give them the chance to know about these and learn about it. Sometimes women don't even tell them about this themselves, this is something that should be worked on
I was a couple of days late, but I stayed for the entire class! Seriously though, you are a big inspiration to me. I work in business intelligence and data analytics, but I also started complicatedknots this year and managing a full time job, a youtube channel and a store has been...a lot. You're incredible. 💙
I listened to this and a few other podcasts doing homework. Thank you guys for these they help me concentrate on my work rather than watching videos that are keeping me distracted.
When Ben said “we almost ran out of the batch of menchie” it just didn’t sound right 😂😸
Both this podcast and You Can Sit With Us podcast released university related podcasts at the same time 👁️
dude! those two podcasts make my tuesdays
In the US they refer to it/understand it as both, I just think “college” may be way more common, but they still understand the meaning for both to refer to the other.
I have a question about the forms! My husband graduated this year, and it was really bitter sweet for us. He had attempted this program (Library and Informational Technologies) several years ago but had to drop out due to medical issues. He was SO excited and proud to graduate this year, but a lot of that excitement was taken away because of Covid. He missed his practicum (which was the part he was looking forward to the most) AND many of the places he would be looking for work right now are closed. (Libraries, Schools, Archives.) I just really want to give him something special, to show him that all these years of hard work getting better wasn't for nothing. I saw on the forms that it had a few personal questions, such as 'Where do you see yourself in 10 years" and his email, etc. I want to sign him up for this as a surprise, JUST in case, but I don't want to be fraudulent and pretend that I AM him...is it acceptable for me to put my own email in, (and guesses to his future plans) but have the student loan information and all that good stuff be HIS information? Then in the off chance he DOES get picked, I can present it to him as a surprise? I'm just worried about putting his email in there and him getting any update emails and what-not that tips him off that I signed him up for this! Please let me know if you can, and thank you for giving graduates of this year such an amazing opportunity. I know whoever wins is going to have their life changed by this, and its all because of the generosity between you two. Thanks!
I LOVED to see Ben eviscerating the mansplainer "devil's advocate" type who plagues academia
I’m a senior in my undergraduate psychology program and am considering pursuing a PhD in the future. The work and dedication that a PhD requires is super daunting, and I often struggle with imposter syndrome. I often wonder if I have the work ethic and tenacity to complete the program. It’s super inspiring to hear your story and learn about the practical impact your work has. I love hearing about the experiences of women in science because it reminds me that I’m capable, despite my doubts. I’m also a research assistant in two labs where I work under a couple very strong women, and it is so encouraging to see them thrive. Thank you for sharing your story and inspiring me Christine! It’s such a special thing to see on the internet.
PhD is really tough. But, you don’t necessarily have to be super “smart” to get one - you need sheer grit & persistence, in the face of problems / set backs. You must find a supervisor you get on well with and who will fully support you, and pursue a research topic you really love and won’t get bored of. I would encourage you to talk to PhD students in the school you’re thinking of applying to to hear about their experiences!
I love it when Simplymomlogical and Dad talk about school and extra info that no one else tells us, It's so satisfying and makes me feel smart.
It's so cool to hear you guys speak about education and education in Canada at that! I'm a graduate from engineering in NB and to hear "influencers" speak about something I can actually relate to is awesome. I love hearing your perspectives on things, it's so refreshing! Love the podcast!
Drink every time Ben says "romantic view" when talking about university!
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Hi! Your local higher education professional here. The different between “college” and “university” in the states is almost a moot point these days. It used to mean public vs. private or small liberal arts vs. large research institution, but now many smaller and private schools have also achieved university status. Many schools are making the switch (my undergrad, Assumption University, just did it) and essentially it’s because they now have smaller “schools” or “colleges” within the university. School of business, school of medicine, school of liberal arts etc. So...long story short, in the states there’s basically no difference now as well but many institutions are making the switch to all being “university” in order to have a more global mindset.
I believe they said they are Canadian which means college and university are two very different things. In Canada colleges are 2-3 years diploma programs at applied arts and technology schools, universities only have bachelor, masters and doctorate programs.
@@ophejane2274 Right, but that's why the og poster took the time to explain, because Cristine and Ben are Canadian and were confused about the difference between colleges and universities in the US.
In Argentina we have Universities and then "inside" the structure we have Faculties. So, for example, I go to the Universidad del Museo Social Argentino (University of Argentine Social Museum), but I study in the Facultad de Lenguas Modernas (Faculty/Department of Modern Languages). Most citizens don't know the difference and they mix them up, but there is a slight difference that makes me have to say "I go to University" whereas my sister has to say faculty.
Yep. At my undergrad within the university there were different colleges--College of Business, College of Engineering and Sciences, College of Nursing, and College of Humanities, education, and social sciences
I needed this.
It's 1:45am Wednesday and I am an RA at my school and I am sitting at a desk in the dark (we have desk duty where we monitor people coming in and if they have a mask) and I am listening to this podcast. And hearing the realities of school in such a safe way right now is helping me. I am tearing out my hair doing my psych homework and hearing her say do this for you cause you can only be doing this for you in grad school is helping me remind myself why I am getting my degree. I get so lost in the small stuff, the information not being conveyed that this podcast is what I needed right now refocus on a big picture. And you, always pushing education in a safe, positive, and non hateful way for those on channel I can't thank you enough. You've been my encouragenent through high school due credit anatomy and physiology, my freshman now sophomore year of high school. You have kept my life in perspective Cristine. Thank you.
I stayed the entire class!
I discovered these podcasts recently, and I found listening to you talking very relaxing. I'm now a BSc student and your podcast is fantastic for study background noise (please don't take it the wrong way, it is a compliment). Thank you for making them :)
I'm an accounting professor with my PhD, so I'm really appreciating the love, haha! You CAN do your PhD in business with no prior experience in business. In fact, most PhD's in business do not have a business undergrad. I feel like the business school is a little more practically minded and less esoteric than something like sociology tends to be. Business research is similar to other types of research, except that it usually has to have some type of business function. So we study things like consumer ethics, the stock market, and how organizations behave. However, a MBA is a great way to get an understanding of actual business practices such as reading financial statements, developing a marketing plan, and managing employees. Anyways, those are my thoughts. I appreciate your support for education.
totally not watching this while im in class.
DONT LOOK AT ME LIKE THAT, IM BORED
Lol same
Watching this while im in my online pharmacology class.
Stay in school kids lol
Honestly, I really love the fact that you all are talking about college/university openly and honestly. After getting my masters degree almost ten years ago, I have had mixed feelings about my education. Like, I definitely don’t regret sacrificing that much of my life, but it’s hard now because my job ultimately doesn’t value my degree. It feels a bit like a catch-22 situation and I don’t ever know how to explain that to students who ask me about it.
It took several nights but I made it to the end of class! I can't help it, your voices lull me to sleep. Thank goodness for the detailed time stamps in your description box so I can find my place each time I come back!
About the whole “doing labs online” - I’m taking a plant propagation class with a lab online next semester, and we are expected to buy potting mix, seeds, etc. and follow along with everything at home.
Next semester? That’s January! How are you going to grow anything in winter? 😂
Oh gawd, I would kill the poor plant. I suck with keeping plants alive 😂
@@kjs498 Next semester as in the fall, which hasn't started yet for us. We're expected to do this inside, though, so it won't matter.
I'm going to enter medical school and my seniors and cousins told me that learning anatomy in person and online are very different, so I'm kind of worried.
In Canada, there's a difference between university and college though. University is more lectures and writing papers, while college is more hands on. University also takes longer and costs more while college is shorter (2-3 years) and cheaper.
In UK college sounds similar. It’s more practical skills.. beauty, mechanics, ect. University is more papers and essays and lectures.
In the US the two are interchangeable. I went to a university and in conversation I would say I was a college student. College/university are the same here. We have community colleges which are also called junior college and they offer two year degrees or transfer credits. We also have trade schools, and vocational schools but no one here calls that college. A person going to beauty school would not call themselves a college student.
@@TamairaElise Yes, in the US the words college and university are used interchangeably by the general population, but there is an actual difference in requirements for why an institution can hold the title of "university" vs "college"
@@Freya_Blue Do you know what those requirements are? I know no one would call a community college a university, so I guess the two aren't quite interchangeable. It's more so that people call universities colleges, than the other way around. The community college that I went to offered a bachelors program though, so I'm curious what the requirement is to be a university. I initially thought maybe just the offering of a four year degree, but my community college would be an exception to that.
Tamaira Paleski in the us, in simplest form, universities have more than one campus, while colleges have one. For example university of Georgia (cuz I live in Georgia) is a university because they are scattered around Atlanta. University of California is a university because you can choose to go to a different campus. I go to university of west Georgia, and before the other campuses, it was called west Georgia college.
Now community college is very easy to get into, you need your high school transcript, diploma, and your sat/act scores (don't need to be high). You usually come here to get your core out of the way, figure out what you want to do for a cheaper price.
University really depends, but you need the transcript, high school GPA, diploma, recommendation letters, and your sat/act scores need to be higher than their requirements. In university, you typically stay the full 4 years
Every college and university is different due to standard requirement, but this is how I view it.
As Some who's graduation was scheduled for 1 week after the pandemic broke free in my country I really appreciate it guys.... finding a job on my own field has been really hard because crazy previous experience required for new hires to work from home, to the point that I had to just go back to answer phones to support myself, making feel that I wasted 5 years of my life in college, the entire podcast made me feel better about the whole thing and even tho the path a head is still rought as even when pandemic is over I would have been graduated for more than a year and still no field experience after that, I know it will get better and that my time (and money) in university was not a waste. Thank you ❤
My first day of Nursing school is on Monday... I’m super nervous but so excited. You remind me of why I’m doing this and that I can achieve anything and everything I put my mind to. So thank you both for your loving and encouraging words
can you play the card game "We're Not Really Strangers" on the podcast?
Whoop! Had to get up early today, and I was rewarded with Taco Tuesday. Worth it.
On the topic of the video, I graduated from college almost 3 years ago, and I struggled with truly liking college and seeing its worth. For years I hated that I went to college and "wasted" 6 years of my life (insert eye roll here). I know I know. I sounded awful. 2020 is what made me finally realize that I'm glad I went to college. I'm proud that I'm a first generation graduate. I originally did it for my family, and now I'm really glad I did it for me. Ok sappy times over haha
Edit: Just reading all of the early comments. I think I started the serious, sappy response too early. Everyone's all "yeaahhh Taco Tuesday!", and I'm like "let me start the therapy session" hahaha!
I'm always listening to the podcast while cleaning, which actually makes me look forward to it 😊 thank you two
I wanted to be a psychiatrist and in india there's a huge deal about the entrance tests for med school right after high school. Anyway, I spent almost 4 years studying all throughout high school+a drop year trying to get into med school. And when I finally did, I realised that that wasn't what I wanted to do as a career(even though I love the subject). I also didn't want to spend potentially 900 thousand dollars trying to earn that degree.
So cut to me being in my final year of undergraduate and I'm majoring in psychology, journalism and english. Really goes to show that life always throws a curve ball