All / both (都) - Chinese Grammar Simplified 106
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- Опубликовано: 20 окт 2018
- In this video, we are going to look into the ways to say "all" or “both" in Chinese. We will also address how 90% of English-speaking students misuse the adverb 都.
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Here is my last response to all those who believe 我们猫都喜欢 is wrong. (Sigh...)
As @ Liu Laoshi explained in his/her comment:"This structure is called "Object+comment" 猫 （obj.) + 我们都喜欢 （Comment） or not too common: subj +obj+ comment without subj: 我们+猫+都喜欢。 It is correct. "
The main purpose of the video is to introduce the difference between 所有的 and 都, and to point out the common mistake of "都+noun". The most common way Chinese would say this is "我们喜欢所有的猫。“ or "我们所有的猫都喜欢。”. So I can understand why some Chinese people find the sentence "我们猫都喜欢。”sounds off. However, although it is a less used pattern, grammatically, it is still correct. And in practice, as native Chinese, I do say it that way.
如果有中国的朋友觉得“我们猫都喜欢” 听起来很别扭，那是不是“我们所有猫都喜欢。”或者“我们什么猫都喜欢。”这样的句式你听起来更顺耳吧？但是，当我们省略了“所有”或者“什么”仅保留“都”，倒装句“我们猫都喜欢” 句子从语法上来说还是成立的，只是不常见而已。
事实上 第一句话我很少听人说过
而且中国人喜欢省略“的” 所以这句话的主语就变成了我们（的）猫
Even here u have those kind of people who don't help others to teach them and they don't let others do that shame on them. thank u for teaching us Chinese I really found it great chanel please if u can keep going on
@@haidancheng5199 莫名其妙的喷子出现了呢。我从小到大说了几十年的句法结构到你这儿就成了错的。麻烦你搜索一下Topic-Comment 结构，倒装一定要”什么”才成立吗？ 请问以下倒装句是否为常见句型？有没有必要使用疑问词？哪一句是错的？
1. 你的视频我都喜欢。
2. 妈妈做的菜我都喜欢吃。
3. 生活的意义我们要慢慢体会。
4.中文的语法你还得继续学习。
还拿英文句型来类比，真无语😓
我们猫都喜欢听起来怪怪的。 应该是“猫我们都喜欢”，意思是（只要是猫）我们都喜欢。
Thank you for come back ❤
Your video is really helpful.
I'm an international student in china learning Chinese and I'm amazed by the simplicity and effectiveness of your explanation ❤️🎊👏👏
Your lessons are always great !
I thought you wouldn't upload anymore, so glad you did :)
Great lesson as always. You are a very good instructor.
Really great video! Thanks! Please keep making them :)
This video is very useful.
Thanks so much
我们 都 你的 所有的 课！！
我们 都 非常 感谢 您！！！！
很棒的講解!
Good. Really understandable.
You are a fantastic teacher! Congratulations!! 谢谢您
I'm learning Chinese too....so is it possible to talk to you for a conversation in Chinese?
Thank you!
you're the best
Thank you so much.
我很喜欢你的汉语课文！谢谢你😀😀
I'm learning Chinese too....so is it possible to talk to you for a conversation in Chinese?
谢谢
Very helpful, 谢谢您
I'm learning Chinese too....so is it possible to talk to you for a conversation in Chinese?
我们都爱你的视频。
I like your videos soooo much. 榭榭你。老师
好老师 😍😍😍😍😍😍
Danke
I love your videos, please, don't stop doing them
I'm learning Chinese too....so is it possible to talk to you for a conversation in Chinese?
It should be: 猫我们都喜欢。I am a native speaker. Your video is great!
很棒
我们猫都喜欢。 To be honest, I never heard it for even once in real life. "都"normally cannot be used to describe object. For the rest, your video is very good. Creative and clearly explained!
True, to sound more natural I would say : 是猫我们都喜欢。
我们喜欢所有的猫
Yes, we tend to add an adj and say. 我们所有的猫都喜欢。
But the purpose of the video to emphasize that we cannot say: 我们喜欢都猫, which is something I heard a lot of students say because of the influence of English.
您好老师， just a question... do you think its ok we use 的 in this sentence? 所有的猫 还是 所有只猫 ？
Or should we use 只 for cats, dogs and all small animals?
Thanks for the video, you're amazing!
we don't need to use measure words here. And 所有猫 is fine.
Keep going ♥️♥️
I'm learning Chinese too....so is it possible to talk to you for a conversation in Chinese?
Would 我们喜欢所有的猫 Not also be correct?
1. 一。。。就。。。
2. 越。。。越
3. 跟。。。样
4. 。。。分之。。。
5. 当。。。的时候
Sir, can you make video for this particular Grammer words.
Thanks you
Your well wisher 😇
IamAlokParmar
Glad you are back, always such clear and consice videos. However my girlfriend is chinese and insists that 我们猫都喜欢 is wrong, so i am not sure what to think.
Will 我们猫都喜欢 is a shorter version of 我们全部的猫都喜欢。I am Chinese, which part of China is she from?
@@luckylukewang Mine is a native speaker from taiwan and also thinks it's wrong. She's not a teacher though so I'm inclined to trust Twin Cities Tutor instead
@@luckylukewang 浙江，I'm not saying she is right but she insists this video is wrong.
I totaly agree
Thank you for trusting me. As a native Chinese speaker, I want to clarify that the most common way Chinese would say this is "我们喜欢所有的猫。“ or "我们所有的猫都喜欢。”. So I can understand why some Chinese people find the sentence "我们猫都喜欢。”sounds off. However, although it is a less used pattern, grammatically, it is still correct. And in practice, as Chinese, I do say it that way.
Can we write using both suo you de and dou in 1 sentence
Suoyoude zhongguo ren dou xihuan lu cha .
Yes, and that is more accurate!
Twin Cities Chinese Tutor 谢谢 老师 ，make some videos about complement of results
Hi 老师， Wouldn't the second sentence be " 貓, 我们都喜欢。 " Thus changed the sentence into a "Topic-Comment Sentence"?
Yes, that works too
sounds better that way
1 我喜欢所有的你的视频。 2 你的视频我都喜欢。 3 我都喜欢你的视频 hmm, are either of these correct? they sound strange,...
1 correct. 2 correct. 3 a bit odd. I am only one person. maybe 我们都喜欢你的视频
Since Chinese doesn't use plural, 貓 could be plural or singular. However, just like English, if it is sigular there needs to be either a definite or indefinite article in the front (i.e. this cat, the cat or a cat). If it's plural, then the article is omitted: We all like (all) cats. It's no different in Chinese. So if you say "我們都喜歡貓”, to a Chinese it is implied we love all cats. Else the sentence would be 我們都喜歡(這隻)貓 (we all love THIS cat). But it is also correct to say in Chinese 貓我們都喜歡 (cats, we all like) , it is less common in English though.
What's the difference between quan bu dou and suo you de? Is they all same??
In 全部都, 全部 is used as an adverb. But 全部的 = 所有的。
I have a question.
your explanation of 都 in a sentence all using plural subject.
but I came across "我都知道'"in a song.
I understand that 都 describes the subject which is 我, (in your case is 我们)
then the meaning, could it be "I all understand" ?
really?
In your case, there are two possible situations. If we say 我都知道 with an emphasis on 都, it means I know all (of the context). And if we put stress on 我, it means a 连…都 pattern instead, and 我都知道=(连)我都知道 and 都 here doesn’t mean “all” any more, instead it means “even”, therefore, 我都知道 would be translated to Even I know (it).
Hope my explanation could help.
Usually we use 明白 or 理解 to express “understand”.
我知道 means I know or I got it.
@@qianfeizhou8265 so it means like "I completely know", is it?
@@qianfeizhou8265 the complete line is this "当然 我都知道 你也有落泪的时候"
in this case, the 都 means what? even or all ?
@@agustawicaksono Yeah, in this sentence , it’s like “Of course, I completely know, you also bust into tears sometimes.”
I'm confused with 想 (think; want), 要 (want; will) and 会( will; can).
I 想 you. (miss)
I 想 you're right. (think)
I 想要 that. (want) 想 rarely means want when alone.
I 要 that. (want)
I 要 go to school. (want or will, depending on context)
I 会 go. (will)
I 会 sing. (will or can, depending on context)
Not sure it helps but..
I watch all TV show = 我都看电视节目
He like all cars = 他都喜欢车
All these book are mind= 全部的书是我的
The first two are not correct. 都 means more than one. I or He - those are single person. 都 is not necessary.
Thank you
我都看电视节目 == In speech (especially Taiwanese Mandarin I guess), the meaning here is more of 我只看电视节目 (I only watch TV shows)
@S is correct. Think about the key points from the video, and you can find the correct answers on my website.
Hello teacher i learn to practice. Could you correct my mistake below please?
我 都 看 电视
他 都 嘻欢 汽车
这 书 都 是 的 我
... explanation of 都 in a sentence all using plural subject is correct
In the sentence "这 书 都 是 的 我" shoud be inserted "些"：这些书是我的。 without using "都"。another example: ... 我们都很忙。means We are all busy.
If you want to say "I watch all TV shows", the correct way to say it would be " 电视我都喜欢看。“
Similarly, if you want to say "he likes all cars", you would say: 车他都喜欢。
and for the last sentence, we will say： 这些书都是我的。as suggested by the comment above.
After 这， which means this, we will need a measure word as clarified in my measure word video.
Nin hao laoshi. Can i use ''DŌU'' to say like this? they all like cats. Wo keyi ma?
Mani Moustapha it sounds right to me
i’m pretty sure you can
my parents speak chinese to me
but i’m really bad at reading and writing 😅
hi, I have two confusing sentences, 中餐，西餐，我都喜欢 and 我中餐西餐都喜欢。 first 都 is to describe subject I and second is to describe object 中餐西餐？
Both of your sentences seem okay to me. In the teacher's example, 我们 was plural, so 我们都 meant "all of us". In your first example 我都 couldn't really be translated as "all of me". That wouldn't make sense. So, when the teacher said that 都 could refer to the subject before it, maybe we could extend that rule to say that 都 could refer to the items ( plural items ! ) before it. In both of your examples, these are 中餐西餐.
@mountaintag I could not have explained it better myself. Well done!
How to say: We all like all cats
我们都喜欢所有的猫。
My friend Zhen Shen is crying
Teach us
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你很忙，我和玛丽也都很忙。
is this sentence correct?
yes
@@ChineseGrammarSimplified
你们都是很好人。你们都很好人。
which one is correct and why?
here 好 is an adjective, so why we need to use 是 after 都?
Md. Fahim Shahriar The first one is correct, the second one is not. In the first sentence, you have a subject verb object structure. 好 in here is to describe the object “people 人”. So that‘s the reason why you need to have the verb “是”. Look at English. It’s saying “you are all good people”. If we do not have the object “people 人” in the sentence, and just say “you are all good” , then we do not need 是, and we will build it as 你们都很好。
所有这些书都是我的。
My Friends yee hern is crying
Can I say 貓我們都喜歡 for the second sentence?
yes! you can
貓 here is topic, while the rest of sentence is comment. In Chinese, Topic-Comment usually uses in conversational Chinese. But normally, in formal 我們都喜歡 貓. Let's see such as this sentence: 她嗓子发炎了。 means She has a sore throat, In Chinese, 她 here is Topic, 嗓子 is subject, and 发炎 is intransitive verb.
We can campare 我们猫都喜欢. Since 喜欢 is transitive, then normal 猫 should be shifted in the beginning of the sentence. In Chinese grammer, there are no definete or indefinite articles (the/a(n) in Chinese. Compare to these two sentenses: 笔在哪儿 ? "笔" here refers to "definite reference" means( "The pen(s) are there.") ; 哪儿有笔 ？"笔" in this sentence as an object, in which refers to "indefinite reference" (Where is a pen or Where are there some pens ?) Please see Basic Chinese, Yip Po-Ching & Don Rimmington (1998, p48).
1.我看都电视节目
2.他喜欢都一两车
3.所有这些书都是我的。
haha, please remember "都+noun" is wrong.
the first sentence & the second sentence are wrong, the final sentence is correct!
我们的猫都喜欢老鼠🐀
I'm learning Chinese too....so is it possible to talk to you for a conversation in Chinese?
I wonder if the following could be candidates for the riddle's solution:
我们所有喜欢猫。我们喜欢所有猫。
我们一切喜欢猫。我们喜欢一切猫。
我们所有喜欢猫，and 我们一切喜欢猫 are not grammatically correct. 所有 and 一切 cannot be used as adverbs, so you cannot put them before verbs.
@@ChineseGrammarSimplified Okay, thanks. So the 人 after 所有 in the video's example is a required element, and not just optional.
@@mountaintag 人 is a noun;
adj + noun;
adv. + verb
Some one please help me:
What's the purpose of 都 in this sentence 🤔?? :
他所有的钱都被抢走了
都 means “all” just like the video explained. You may need to watch the 被 video to understand the rest.
ummmm，这个“我们猫都喜欢”感觉听起来稍微有点别扭。。。🤔。大部分人听着会觉得是“我们猫，都喜欢”，即说话人是只猫🐱😂。不过从语感上来说也有另一种理解方式，即“我们猫（重音）都喜欢”，这样潜台词就是说：大多数人不喜欢猫，但是我们喜欢。换个例子，毕竟🐱这么可爱怎么会有人不喜欢😝。“（不是我说你，眼光真差，）他你都喜欢？”，或者“我这都亏本卖了，（你还嫌贵啊？）”。不过后面这种基本都有上下文语境，单独听起来很容易有歧义😂。
回到这句“我们猫都喜欢”，看了评论，很多人都质疑这句是语法错误，其实语法上是没错，但太“教科书”了以至于生活中完全不会有人这么用😓。无论哪种理解方式，这句“我们猫都喜欢”都≠“we like all cats”。其实换个思路，咱们中文是有“We like all cats”的完美翻译的，“我们所有的猫都喜欢”是不是听起来“人话”多了😂，而且你视频里也介绍了“所有的”的用法，如果可以的话还是建议改一下😊。
其实都没有get到我的点，这个视频的关键不是要学“我们猫都喜欢。”而是要避免“我们喜欢都猫。”这种常见的错误用法。“都”不可以形容名词才是这个视频的关键。
Im so sorry but some how this made me more confused about how to say all or both in chinese :(
I am sorry to hear that. 都 is a weird word, maybe watch it a few times and let me know what confuses you.
@@ChineseGrammarSimplified After much practice and rewatching your video, 5 months later I am really getting it! Thanks for your videos.
It just too fast, i can't follow the lessons
you can always play it half speed or pause when you have to.
That background music is used by like 20 different RUclips ads. It's annoying as hell.
im sorry to say it is not a good video. using a less used pattern for beginners? Not necessary
Haha, I guess you are missing the point. The main purpose of this video is to discourage students from making the mistake of using 都 to directly describe nouns and say things like 都猫。That is a very common mistake of beginners.
😡😡😡😡😡😡🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
???
我们猫都喜欢 is a big wrong dude
真是不明白为什么老有人觉得我是个假的中国人。
@@ChineseGrammarSimplified 哥们儿，我觉得你的视频做得特别好，我都会给我的学生推荐，但是最后这个句子你不觉得有问题吗?…p.s.我的老师早就死了 poor 白老师
哈哈，好吧。谢谢你的反馈。那我们探讨一下，这个视频的主要目的是解释“都”字的常见错误即“都+名词”这种Chinglish。以倒装句出现，如果说“我们所有猫都喜欢。”或者“我们什么猫都喜欢。”这样的句式你可能会觉得听起来更顺耳吧？但是，当我们省略了“所有”或者“什么”仅保留“都”，句子从语法上来说还是成立的，只是不常见而已。事实上，我也真的会这样说。所以作为针对语法来说的视频，我觉得“我们猫都喜欢”或者“猫我们都喜欢”这样的句式，其实并没错。
@@ChineseGrammarSimplified 你的解释很清楚，非常感谢！
感觉“猫我们都喜欢”更顺耳一点？把宾语前置一下 : )
women like cats