Hi Oleg. I own the Alpinist, along with the 36mm Explorer. I love my Alpinist because it dresses up or down so well! It's so different from the Explorer as it has more personality. Fantastic bang per buck watch.
I got the Alpinist awhile back and gotta say, I was skeptical of the green dial but when I got it, I realized it actually goes well with most things you wear! Match the band you choose with your shoes and/or belt and you're good to go and the green doesn't feel out of place at all
You're right. Something I questing before I borrow this watch is how will the watch wear with different attire. I think it works well with most outfits (although I am not known for my fashion sense lol).
When I started getting into watches about 2 years ago thru vostok I saw the Alpinist on various sites and thought yup I want one!. Green ,seiko ,Saphire crystal, go anywhere do anything yup that's for me. Bought one and it is the flagship of my collection and I love it! Great vid. Hi Bond!!👍
@@AFCAWorldBodybuildingArchive Yes, I know that. I meant aesthetically complementary rather than in the technical sense, but left that word out. I had thought of going back and doing an edit, but have just been too busy with other things.
Green/gold.. Is perfect.. If this alphinist dial made green/red it wouldnt be as iconic or beautiful. Seiko did a excellent cosmetic feature for the dial here..
I own one..my favorite part of it is the case..it has a little bit of everything so ppl love it for many reasons..if your an enthusiast imho it's a great piece for any kind of collection
I thought the indices were applied but they are actually pressed from the rear of the dial. I've seen a photo of the back of the dial and it showed it clearly. I love mine and it now lives on the original Seiko Oyster bracelet. It makes it look totally tool like.
I love love my Alpinist. On the stock strap (as uncomfortable and "plasticy" as it is) the combination of brown, green, gold, and the stainless steel is perfectly balanced. The brown strap helps to take some attention away from the eye catching green dial and complimentary gold markers. And the stainless steel case is like a blank canvas for all the colours to blend in and get to know each other. The green itself is subdued enough to not to be gaudy, but the sunburst pops out enough to be noticed. And on a strapcode bracelet, it's like wearing a emerald on your wrist. Maximum attention is on that gorgeous gorgeous green dial. The upcoming replacement that comes in white, black, and of course green, is very similar to this green SARB017 that was also released in white and black as well in the for of the SARB13 and SARB15 respectively.
@Strangely Brown Oh so true about the blue version, people are paying x2 and more. Not for me, I'll just keep emerald one, maybe play around with different straps. Saw a nice I guess they call it a French style NATO green with a red dotted line down the middle. I did order one for a different watch, but I think it's in 20mm.
You're right. Something I questing before I borrow this watch is how will the watch wear with different attire. I think it works well with most outfits (although I am not known for my fashion sense lol).
@Strangely Brown absolutely. It's the same thing except they slapped the prospex "X" and increased power reserve. If they added a high beat 4 Hz movement then that might be worth considering.
Bought the watch a few days ago and love it! Came very fast from Japan. With the green dial it is either love/hate with this watch. But it is very unique timepiece. Get it while you can in new condition. I feel max $450. for this is still great bang for buck.
When I go on holiday I only take one watch. The Sarb017. I've took it to the Alps, Scandinavia, North Africa and I've scuba dived with it many times. If I'm on vacation with my girlfriend then ill be taking here to dinner in Nice restaurants. The Sarb017 on a bracelet or leather it looks at home here too. On a Nato its great for hiking in the mountains or scuba diving. It's a classic. Mine runs at plus 7 seconds a day. I got mine for 245 Euros. Be the last watch in my collection I'd sell that's for sure.
My thoughts on SARB017: The green dial is incredibly beautiful, the golden indices are just wonderful. Sapphire crystal, 20 BAR water resistant, and the case cover I like very much. Yes, actually this case lid, because glass backs have slowly lost their charm for me. For me, the 6R15 is no optical highlight to show. But for me the biggest advantage is that the watch on the steel strap from Strapcode (Oyster or Super Engineer) looks eerily present and powerful. I also found it a little sad that there was no steel bracelet to be seen in the video. The original leather strap on the other hand is obsolete, it looks good, but it wears terribly. My thoughts on the new Alpinist: The X on the dial seems completely out of place. I don't have to have the glass back, I just like the upgraded movement. I can't say anything about the dials, but wouldn't the SARB033 have done just as well? My general thoughts on the 6R caliber: I see no reason why I should buy an ETA 2824-2 rather than a 6R15. Just because it comes from Switzerland? That's not enough for me. I had roughly the same experience with both calibers, and the movements don't really differ in purchase price either. Of course, this is only my opinion about causa Alpinist, but I hope that it makes at least a small contribution to the discussion. If you have the chance, then try again with a steel strap from Strapcode to approach the clock, it will be worth it. I would like to send you my green and blue Alpinist, but the shipping costs from Germany might be a bit ambitious. Otherwise, as always, a great video of you. Should I ever be on your corner, then I would like to shake your hand and bring two three watches with me.
@Strangely Brown Oddly I did order a Strapcode but havn't used it, I like it on leather and maybe a good quality NATO strap. Maybe someday I will put it on. And if I was to go around again, I wouldn't have ordered it. If I want to go for a bracelet and won't at this point. I'd get something by Uncle Seiko.
I picked one up and just couldn't get excited about it. Then I put a jubilee strap on it and fell in love. It is now one of my favorite everyday beaters.
Hated it a year ago...it grew on me, & I bought one last month... Love it!!! Accurate (+ a few a day), beautifully finished, built like a tank! No problems with compass moving (wear it quite high up my wrist I guess). Certainty put it on par with some of my more expensive Swiss watches. Got mine from Japan (eBay) for under £300 - did take some finding & patience, but they're out there. Cheers 👍👍
I owned one. Nice green dial, very versatile, great size and affordable price. I enjoyed wearing it. Not too excited with the new version as I think the pricing is too much for the upgrade offered. I will stick to my current version.
Hi Oleg, my Sarb 017 is my favorite in a 12-14 watch collection. As to the movement, I compare them to my cars. I have a honda element with 17000 + miles on it. It looks and runs like a 2 year old car. I also have a German saloon that is beautiful. My go to auto is the honda. Not as impressive but I know it will never fail me. Just like my sarb, it punches waaaaaay above it's price point. I really enjoy your reviews....thanks for the work.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and I fell in love with this piece the first time I saw one. The sunburst green with gold hands and markers combined with polished steel is stunning. Definitely stays in my watch rotation and last wore with a blue, yes bright blue nato strap. Stunning. At first you have to get accustomed to the size until you realize that your other watches a too big instead of this being too small. And to be honest if I were to ever actually go rock or mountain climbing (never gonna happen) but if I were then I would wear a g-shock anyway so I don’t worry about scratching anymore than any other watch I wear on a day to day basis. I have “beater” watches for when I working in the yard or on my car etc. love your channel and your 🐶! Keep it up 👍
The dial and handset on the Alpinist are great. I feel like you've never looked at a Rolex case back. I find the Alpinist's to be just fine. Exhibition case backs are way to trendy currently. If it's got some gorgeous high end movement sure, but in most cases it's not really adding value if you ask me.
I think the only clothes colours that would not coordinate with a green dial would be black, grey or blue. Browns, red hues, some greens, etc. would be fine. If a new version is about to be launched, I hope Seiko has made the compass crown a little less easy to rotate.
I’ve had the Alpinist for about six months… I had wanted it for awhile but did not want to pay the premium price That people were asking because of it being discontinued… I found it for just over $300 and couldn’t pass it up… I really like the watch… The 6R15 Movement in mine runs out +5/6 seconds… This watch goes on travel with me anywhere I go and for work or play… It can be worn in just about every circumstance and for any purpose… 200 meter water resistance and I think the lume is great For this type of watch… The markers are small but Seiko Lumibright Never disappoints...I have a Rolex explore… And although I like it this watch gets more wrist time! Thanks for the great review
Good review of a classic watch from Seiko. The Alpinist always gives me a good vibe when I wear it. I paired mine with a Jack Foster English Tan Dublin Leather strap with olive green stitching and the Alpinist absolutely came to life. The rich leather and the green stitching is the perfect combination for this watch. If you don’t know Jack Foster, check them out. The leathers are exquisite. Not cheap but worth every dollar. New subscriber. Nicely done.
OK, I just now (28 October 2020) received a SARB017 purchased from Amazon USA for $475.00. I ordered it the day before yesterday and 24 hours ago they were no longer available from Amazon, so I suppose I got one of the last they had. All of them are showing up at more than $900 on Amazon now. It is a beautiful watch. I also bought the Strapcode brushed and polished bracelet. It's about $20 more than the brushed only bracelet, but it is not available from Amazon. Mine was sent via Fedex from Hong Kong and actually arrived about 2 hours before the watch did (by USPS parcel post) although it was ordered several hours after the watch was. Despite what people say, the leather watchband that came with the SARB017 is fine. No problem at all. So, what is the difference between a SARB017 and say a 11610LN? First, the price, of course. They are both beautiful to behold, and no photographs on line do the SARB017 justice. But the 11610LN is also beautiful to behold. Still, they both have a look of quality. Next, the LN11610LN has a functional rotating bezel, which I never use except as a timer above water. I am a ROV pilot, not a diver. The SARB017 has a rotating bezel which could be used as a compass (I doubt I'll ever use it for that) but it rotates in both directions, so I can use it both as an indicator for ET and countdown. It also serves as a GMT indicator. Then, there is the fact that the LN11610LN goes down to 300 meters, and the SARB017 goes down to 200 meters. I rarely stick my arm more that a full arm's length underwater. Finally, the SARB is out of production and if I don't scratch it up I can sell it for more than what I paid. I've already been offered $600 for it. Of course, the 11610LN is still in production, but I can probably get what I paid for it. I don't plan on selling either. OK, I can feel a difference when I wind and set the time between the two. The Rolex just feels smoother. $7500 more will buy you that feeling of smoothness. But there is NOTHING cheap about this particular Seiko. If you can find a SARB017 for less than $500, you won't be disappointed.
I think I will get one! Probably the 2020 version! However, there are other watches I have in mind ahead of this, such as the Hamilton H64625731, would love to hear your thoughts on the look of that one!
Gold indexes whit sunburst dial just loving it... When i first see it whit angus jubilee bracelet in some pic some where i just know that will be mine.. I have some watches but i know that will be one watch what i will never sell.. Lock of bracelet changed tree times but now event that is just perfect.
Hi Oleg, I don't have a prob.em with the green daily. Why? because it is not an accesory to my c.othes. I consider the sarb017 as the focal point of what I am wearing for that day. All said and done, it punches way above it's price point.
Same here, I struggle with strap options. The stock one is junk, had it on light brown leather, dark brown lizard skin, green suede, black leather and I don’t really like any of them, don’t think it suits a bracelet but I may buy one, unfortunately the Uncle Seiko and Strapcode bracelets that fit it are stupidly expensive and out of stock in the U.K.
I think you just repopularized the term “willy nilly”! It’s a very cool looking watch and the gold guild goes great with the green. I don’t think it’s large enough for me at 39mm. It would be great at 42mm for my 8.5” wrist. Good review Oleg.
Well it's green innit. I have a Seagull 1st Military reissue watch. Big, green and beautiful on a green 24mm fabric strap. Brushed finish 44mm dial and automatic.
Nice review and cool doggie. 😁 I got a decent deal on my alpinist and I love it. Green is one of my favorite colors. The watch looks distinct and its very comfortable. I smiled as soon as I opened the box
Green and Gold, official Australian colours. The lume will do for a Japanese mountaineering watch and for my Japanese mountaineering needs? What does that even mean? I didn't know mountaineering in Japan is so different from other kind of mountaineering that it's specifically called "Japanese mountaineering".
A web search for “the ultimate seiko alpinist” will reveal a Spring Bar site detailing the history of the Alpinist line of watches. A not insignificant aspect of the enjoyment of the SARB017 is knowing that it is the fourth or fifth generation of a line of Alpinist watches first introduced in 1961. That site also has information regarding, and images of, the 2020 Alpinist release. The SARB017, the Alpinists, reflect my activities--cross-country bicycling, backpacking, hiking the Pacific Crest Trail. The SARB017 is a reminder of that type of accomplishment. While the SARB017 looks and functions well with various straps, I have a SARB017 with OEM bracelet. The bezel shows respectable signs of regular use over the past five years. I also have a SARB013 (the cream dial-not actually white.) I consider it too rare to be worn on any but special occasions.
Quite fair review. But I still (after 10 years in horology) don't understand why Seiko is so popular. Why the SKX and Alpinist are most talked about? In the $500 price point you have many Swiss watches which are far better built.
If I were to ever get this watch, I would get a two tone Jubilee bracelet to go with it. I saw someone put one of those on the Alpinist(I think Mark from LI Watch), and it looked just amazing. Great Video Oleg!
Hey Oleg, really like your videos. I need your opinion. I'm selling my Alpinist and Hamilton Khaki Automatic 38mm to buy Longines Hydroconquest 39mm Automatic. I kind of want to have only one watch collection. What do you think about this particular Longines, does it worth buying. Thanks !
Hey Oleg i know you have a speedy, what you thick about a Porsche design sport chronograpsh they are around price section like the rolex explorer, i have two of them for trebute my two 911 7 and 8 gen turbo s, and i wonder have you see this watches and what you thick about them. Have a great day Bond too :) .
Hey Desislav, I don't have much experience with Porsche Designs watches. I've seen a few here and there but didn't spend enough time with one to form an opinion. Having a Porsche is almost a requirement before buying a Porsche Designs watch:)
It is a very nice watch . I live in Toronto and am going to get the new Seiko 5 sports. It was only sale at the Bay for $283 . ( Now it is $375 ) if it goes down to $250 I will get it. What do you think ? Thanks . All your videos are good.
Your videos of buying the Rolex and the Tudor black Bay 58 were very entertaining . You are so lucky . I would love to get a black Bay 58. Maybe one day. Lol
I really like this watch, but 500 dollars is not worth it. You can get much better watches for that price. I don't understand the increases in Seiko watches, they are not really all that special anyway until you get to the Grand Seiko. I am finding a liking to Orient which offers a much better value proposition I think anyway. If the new one will be 900 dollars, you can get some really decent watches for 1000.00
Great review as always, thank you for your candid opinion. I think Seiko di a nice job on this watch but I could never see the value for the cost. It is also disappointing what Seiko is doing lately with so many of there models, reducing features and raising prices. If I am truly going to pay more I would like to see the added value. I understand a few percent increase to cover cost increases but they are on a 25 -50% increase on most of what they make. I have many Seiko in my collection but I am beginning to look elsewhere. KEEP UP THE GREAT JOB ! Thanks
@@24hourstime As we say in Australia, I stopped beating around the bush and just went for it. I also picked the Tudor BB58. The Tudor and Rolex sit proudly next to my Vostok Amphibia's, Omega Speedmasters and vintage Seiko 6139's.
I like green watches and really like the Alpinist, but I don’t love it. I love my Hamilton Field watches and feel the Alpinist does not offer enough to compel me to buy one. Let’s see what the new model brings .... Thanks for the excellent review, Oleg.
You are wrong about the price, it's cheaper before it's being discontinued .. now the price sky rocket after discontinue like other SARB and like other seiko's. PS: Apologize for my broken English
Great idea for a video because it is definitely a very polarizing watch. I can see others liking the green dial, the polished look, and the gold accent. That’s not me For me those hands scream old-fashioned and gold is never a thing. Then there is the date at the 3 and it is a scratch magnet.
I have one and sometimes I like it, sometimes I don’t. The Japanese mountaineering thing for this model is mostly marketing. The original Seiko Laurel and Champion Alpinist watches looked completely different other than the mountain logo on the caseback. The current Alpinist dial design only dates back to the 90’s. I like the ‘compass’ but accept it is completely useless other than being an aesthetic element only. The watch isn’t actually any tougher than the SARB033/035, or any other half decent automatic watch and no one uses it for mountaineering. All Seikos and Orients have Diashock which is just Seiko’s name for their standard shock absorption system - most mechanical watches have something similar i.e Incabloc and it’s nothing particularly special. The update looks like they will remove some of the white dial text, fortunately. I’d like to see a regulated movement with higher beat rate and reduced rotor noise. I would rather see those changes than a longer power reserve. A see through case back would unfortunately make the watch thicker.
Over the last few years it's hard not to see something about this Alpinist. Usually it all about how great this watch and how it's the best deal in the Seiko line-up. And although I do see some cool features to this watch I just couldn't pull the trigger. Then the Hodinkee model hit the streets and the hoopla began all over again. Sort of like what just happened with the Timex Q. I'll never say never about about the Alpinist but I'm taking a pass. But let me ask you something about Seiko. Why doesn't Seiko have a halfway affordable automatic movement that beats at 28,800 BPM? I don't get it. They probably have 100 prototypes that they've made over the years but we are all left with the low beat models including this 6R movement. We know Seiko wants to be considered at the same level as the Swiss but they seem reluctant to step up their game, other than Grand Seiko. The Swiss gives us 28,800 bpm watches in the $500 range. Where is Seiko?
Great watch except of the diameter. Looks funny on the wrist like mine. Anyway, suits young persons very much. Presentation was very professional . You deserve 👍👍👍Oleg👍
I have better watches, better Seiko's, but I love my Alpinist really can't give a reason, one maybe it's one of my smaller watches, it's comfortable to wear, did get rid of the stock band and use a nice Barton leather strap. I have had it for about a year and wear it at least 4 days a week, and almost every night when I sleep. The odd think is I can't really nail the reason why I love it. It does make me happy. I know they did come out with a blue version which does look nice but sells for crazy prices, and honestly like the green color better. If I do get a scratch or two over the years, to me I'll look at them as battle scars. This doesn't mean I will abuse this watch. As far as the movement, this is not a new watch it's been around I can't give you the numbers but don't see myself adjusting it outside if I have to reset it do to not using it. I did buy it from an AD whom I trust and done business before and afterwards. I don't remember the exact price but it was just under $500 . I do like that NATO on the green Alpinist. I don't care what they come out with, I got what I wanted, and don't see a reason for another. BTW like your dog.
I totally agree with you. I dont like the Alpinist, too but there is something amazing. I think the watch can be classified in a very unique positioning. With the name Alpinist and the compass it is somehow a field watch. The look shows almost a vintage look dress watch with a very unique color variation. I think green with gold tones works not only because of Rolex. The 200m reminds about Seikos divers but you will find nothing on the look of the watch. At the end it is a mixture of many elements which makes this watch so special. The expedition case back would be nice but than you would probably miss the 200m. With 50m it would miss the above mentioned link to a diver but I agree, they could put more energy into the design of the caseback. My maximum price point for this watch would be around 300-350€. Everything above is too much.
At it's current price it is not a great value. When it was still being produced, it was available much cheaper and was a great value. I paid $330 about six months before it was discontinued.
Great review. I agree with you. I love my Alpinist, and hate the movement as it’s completely unreliable junk. I’ve paid for it new about 350 bucks about 2 years ago and that’s how much it’s worth. Upgraded version for $800 or more is a joke.
Hi Oleg. I own the Alpinist, along with the 36mm Explorer. I love my Alpinist because it dresses up or down so well! It's so different from the Explorer as it has more personality. Fantastic bang per buck watch.
I got the Alpinist awhile back and gotta say, I was skeptical of the green dial but when I got it, I realized it actually goes well with most things you wear! Match the band you choose with your shoes and/or belt and you're good to go and the green doesn't feel out of place at all
You're right. Something I questing before I borrow this watch is how will the watch wear with different attire. I think it works well with most outfits (although I am not known for my fashion sense lol).
When I started getting into watches about 2 years ago thru vostok I saw the Alpinist on various sites and thought yup I want one!.
Green ,seiko ,Saphire crystal, go anywhere do anything yup that's for me.
Bought one and it is the flagship of my collection and I love it!
Great vid. Hi Bond!!👍
Thanks Darren! 2 years later and the love affair continues:)
Green and gold are complementary colors and it is the dial that does it for me. Just love it!
Green and red are...
@@AFCAWorldBodybuildingArchive Yes, I know that. I meant aesthetically complementary rather than in the technical sense, but left that word out. I had thought of going back and doing an edit, but have just been too busy with other things.
Green/gold.. Is perfect.. If this alphinist dial made green/red it wouldnt be as iconic or beautiful. Seiko did a excellent cosmetic feature for the dial here..
Anthony Valentino unless you get the ultra rare red Alpinist, the dial isn’t red by the way.
I own one..my favorite part of it is the case..it has a little bit of everything so ppl love it for many reasons..if your an enthusiast imho it's a great piece for any kind of collection
I was lucky enough to get mine under 400. Really love it! I had a chance to see the black dial and cream ones. But green is what really stands out.
I still love mine too
I thought the indices were applied but they are actually pressed from the rear of the dial. I've seen a photo of the back of the dial and it showed it clearly.
I love mine and it now lives on the original Seiko Oyster bracelet. It makes it look totally tool like.
Peter 2704 Interesting, what do you mean by ‘pressed?’ Is it stamped from the back?
@@dustycups yes. The photo clearly shows the raised details are stamped from the back of the dial.
That is very interesting.I guess it makes manufacturing of the watch cheaper.
I love love my Alpinist. On the stock strap (as uncomfortable and "plasticy" as it is) the combination of brown, green, gold, and the stainless steel is perfectly balanced. The brown strap helps to take some attention away from the eye catching green dial and complimentary gold markers. And the stainless steel case is like a blank canvas for all the colours to blend in and get to know each other. The green itself is subdued enough to not to be gaudy, but the sunburst pops out enough to be noticed.
And on a strapcode bracelet, it's like wearing a emerald on your wrist. Maximum attention is on that gorgeous gorgeous green dial.
The upcoming replacement that comes in white, black, and of course green, is very similar to this green SARB017 that was also released in white and black as well in the for of the SARB13 and SARB15 respectively.
@Strangely Brown Oh so true about the blue version, people are paying x2 and more. Not for me, I'll just keep emerald one, maybe play around with different straps. Saw a nice I guess they call it a French style NATO green with a red dotted line down the middle. I did order one for a different watch, but I think it's in 20mm.
You're right. Something I questing before I borrow this watch is how will the watch wear with different attire. I think it works well with most outfits (although I am not known for my fashion sense lol).
@Strangely Brown absolutely. It's the same thing except they slapped the prospex "X" and increased power reserve. If they added a high beat 4 Hz movement then that might be worth considering.
Bought the watch a few days ago and love it! Came very fast from Japan. With the green dial it is either love/hate with this watch. But it is very unique timepiece. Get it while you can in new condition. I feel max $450. for this is still great bang for buck.
Which website?
I got mine for about 300$ from Japan. I don't think there's anything better at this price point out there.
I love my Alpinist, I have my on a Strapcode Super Oyster bracelet.
Yours and Jody's are by far my favorite watch channels, keep it up 👍🏻
Greets from Mexico.
Thank you my friend!
When I go on holiday I only take one watch. The Sarb017. I've took it to the Alps, Scandinavia, North Africa and I've scuba dived with it many times. If I'm on vacation with my girlfriend then ill be taking here to dinner in Nice restaurants. The Sarb017 on a bracelet or leather it looks at home here too. On a Nato its great for hiking in the mountains or scuba diving. It's a classic. Mine runs at plus 7 seconds a day. I got mine for 245 Euros. Be the last watch in my collection I'd sell that's for sure.
My thoughts on SARB017:
The green dial is incredibly beautiful, the golden indices are just wonderful. Sapphire crystal, 20 BAR water resistant, and the case cover I like very much. Yes, actually this case lid, because glass backs have slowly lost their charm for me. For me, the 6R15 is no optical highlight to show. But for me the biggest advantage is that the watch on the steel strap from Strapcode (Oyster or Super Engineer) looks eerily present and powerful. I also found it a little sad that there was no steel bracelet to be seen in the video. The original leather strap on the other hand is obsolete, it looks good, but it wears terribly.
My thoughts on the new Alpinist:
The X on the dial seems completely out of place. I don't have to have the glass back, I just like the upgraded movement. I can't say anything about the dials, but wouldn't the SARB033 have done just as well?
My general thoughts on the 6R caliber:
I see no reason why I should buy an ETA 2824-2 rather than a 6R15. Just because it comes from Switzerland? That's not enough for me. I had roughly the same experience with both calibers, and the movements don't really differ in purchase price either.
Of course, this is only my opinion about causa Alpinist, but I hope that it makes at least a small contribution to the discussion. If you have the chance, then try again with a steel strap from Strapcode to approach the clock, it will be worth it. I would like to send you my green and blue Alpinist, but the shipping costs from Germany might be a bit ambitious.
Otherwise, as always, a great video of you. Should I ever be on your corner, then I would like to shake your hand and bring two three watches with me.
@Strangely Brown Oddly I did order a Strapcode but havn't used it, I like it on leather and maybe a good quality NATO strap. Maybe someday I will put it on. And if I was to go around again, I wouldn't have ordered it. If I want to go for a bracelet and won't at this point. I'd get something by Uncle Seiko.
Thanks man! I wish I had a Srapcode bracelet to put this watch for the video. If you're ever in this corner shoot me an email:)
@Strangely Brown Preach, brother!
I picked one up and just couldn't get excited about it. Then I put a jubilee strap on it and fell in love. It is now one of my favorite everyday beaters.
Hated it a year ago...it grew on me, & I bought one last month... Love it!!! Accurate (+ a few a day), beautifully finished, built like a tank! No problems with compass moving (wear it quite high up my wrist I guess). Certainty put it on par with some of my more expensive Swiss watches. Got mine from Japan (eBay) for under £300 - did take some finding & patience, but they're out there. Cheers 👍👍
interesting that you went from hating it to loving it. It's a very special watch.
I owned one. Nice green dial, very versatile, great size and affordable price. I enjoyed wearing it. Not too excited with the new version as I think the pricing is too much for the upgrade offered. I will stick to my current version.
I agree. The new version doesn't get me excited either.
Hi Oleg, my Sarb 017 is my favorite in a 12-14 watch collection. As to the movement, I compare them to my cars. I have a honda element with 17000 + miles on it. It looks and runs like a 2 year old car. I also have a German saloon that is beautiful. My go to auto is the honda. Not as impressive but I know it will never fail me. Just like my sarb, it punches waaaaaay above it's price point. I really enjoy your reviews....thanks for the work.
Try to find another sunburst green watch, it is not easy to find a good one.
New seiko 5
If you're willing to go micro brand, the Tsao Baltimore torsk diver has a beautiful green dial. I have the bronze one w/ green dial. Its awesome!
@@davidl5037 nice looking microbrand. A little bit spendy
@@mrbacchus6127 yeah, they are a little bit now. I got mine on the pre release sale. Great watch though and adjusted to 4 positions
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and I fell in love with this piece the first time I saw one. The sunburst green with gold hands and markers combined with polished steel is stunning. Definitely stays in my watch rotation and last wore with a blue, yes bright blue nato strap. Stunning. At first you have to get accustomed to the size until you realize that your other watches a too big instead of this being too small. And to be honest if I were to ever actually go rock or mountain climbing (never gonna happen) but if I were then I would wear a g-shock anyway so I don’t worry about scratching anymore than any other watch I wear on a day to day basis. I have “beater” watches for when I working in the yard or on my car etc. love your channel and your 🐶! Keep it up 👍
Thank you my friend! "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder" well said!
The dial and handset on the Alpinist are great. I feel like you've never looked at a Rolex case back. I find the Alpinist's to be just fine. Exhibition case backs are way to trendy currently. If it's got some gorgeous high end movement sure, but in most cases it's not really adding value if you ask me.
I think the only clothes colours that would not coordinate with a green dial would be black, grey or blue. Browns, red hues, some greens, etc. would be fine. If a new version is about to be launched, I hope Seiko has made the compass crown a little less easy to rotate.
I’ve had the Alpinist for about six months… I had wanted it for awhile but did not want to pay the premium price That people were asking because of it being discontinued… I found it for just over $300 and couldn’t pass it up… I really like the watch… The 6R15 Movement in mine runs out +5/6 seconds… This watch goes on travel with me anywhere I go and for work or play… It can be worn in just about every circumstance and for any purpose… 200 meter water resistance and I think the lume is great For this type of watch… The markers are small but Seiko Lumibright Never disappoints...I have a Rolex explore… And although I like it this watch gets more wrist time!
Thanks for the great review
Interesting that Alpinist is getting more wrist time than the Explorer. I think you got a good deal on yours.
Good review of a classic watch from Seiko. The Alpinist always gives me a good vibe when I wear it. I paired mine with a Jack Foster English Tan Dublin Leather strap with olive green stitching and the Alpinist absolutely came to life. The rich leather and the green stitching is the perfect combination for this watch. If you don’t know Jack Foster, check them out. The leathers are exquisite. Not cheap but worth every dollar. New subscriber. Nicely done.
Just a heads up; the 6l35 is a totally different movement from the ground up.
Yes but the new Alpinist will have the 6R35, not the 6L35.
@@mrdisco99 Ah my bad Looks like i have been confusing them for the same movement for some time now. Thank you.
OK, I just now (28 October 2020) received a SARB017 purchased from Amazon USA for $475.00. I ordered it the day before yesterday and 24 hours ago they were no longer available from Amazon, so I suppose I got one of the last they had. All of them are showing up at more than $900 on Amazon now.
It is a beautiful watch. I also bought the Strapcode brushed and polished bracelet. It's about $20 more than the brushed only bracelet, but it is not available from Amazon. Mine was sent via Fedex from Hong Kong and actually arrived about 2 hours before the watch did (by USPS parcel post) although it was ordered several hours after the watch was. Despite what people say, the leather watchband that came with the SARB017 is fine. No problem at all.
So, what is the difference between a SARB017 and say a 11610LN?
First, the price, of course. They are both beautiful to behold, and no photographs on line do the SARB017 justice. But the 11610LN is also beautiful to behold. Still, they both have a look of quality.
Next, the LN11610LN has a functional rotating bezel, which I never use except as a timer above water. I am a ROV pilot, not a diver. The SARB017 has a rotating bezel which could be used as a compass (I doubt I'll ever use it for that) but it rotates in both directions, so I can use it both as an indicator for ET and countdown. It also serves as a GMT indicator.
Then, there is the fact that the LN11610LN goes down to 300 meters, and the SARB017 goes down to 200 meters. I rarely stick my arm more that a full arm's length underwater.
Finally, the SARB is out of production and if I don't scratch it up I can sell it for more than what I paid. I've already been offered $600 for it. Of course, the 11610LN is still in production, but I can probably get what I paid for it. I don't plan on selling either.
OK, I can feel a difference when I wind and set the time between the two. The Rolex just feels smoother. $7500 more will buy you that feeling of smoothness. But there is NOTHING cheap about this particular Seiko.
If you can find a SARB017 for less than $500, you won't be disappointed.
I love both dial variations, but that green face with the gold case has me sold!
I think I will get one! Probably the 2020 version! However, there are other watches I have in mind ahead of this, such as the Hamilton H64625731, would love to hear your thoughts on the look of that one!
I love my Sarb017, I purchased a Strapcode 2 tone jubilee for mine.
Are you from VanCity?
Gold indexes whit sunburst dial just loving it... When i first see it whit angus jubilee bracelet in some pic some where i just know that will be mine.. I have some watches but i know that will be one watch what i will never sell.. Lock of bracelet changed tree times but now event that is just perfect.
Love this watch, but I find it is a summer watch. The dial definately stands out best in the sunlight.
Hi Oleg, I don't have a prob.em with the green daily. Why? because it is not an accesory to my c.othes. I consider the sarb017 as the focal point of what I am wearing for that day. All said and done, it punches way above it's price point.
I own it, love it, would never sell it, barely wear it...
Same here, I struggle with strap options. The stock one is junk, had it on light brown leather, dark brown lizard skin, green suede, black leather and I don’t really like any of them, don’t think it suits a bracelet but I may buy one, unfortunately the Uncle Seiko and Strapcode bracelets that fit it are stupidly expensive and out of stock in the U.K.
@@punkoid76 a brown suede will give you a nature, tree vibe. It’s a good feeling.
Great review, even better nato 👌 lots of love to Mr Bond 🐶
Thank you my friend:)
Great video my brother! I personally don’t like the alpinist, but I do respected. Hello Mr. Bond!
Thanks man! This watch is definitely not for everyone:)
I think you just repopularized the term “willy nilly”! It’s a very cool looking watch and the gold guild goes great with the green. I don’t think it’s large enough for me at 39mm. It would be great at 42mm for my 8.5” wrist. Good review Oleg.
Thank you Ray! I hope "willy nilly" will catch on:)
Van City! Great review, love the Alpinist
Well it's green innit.
I have a Seagull 1st Military reissue watch. Big, green and beautiful on a green 24mm fabric strap.
Brushed finish 44mm dial and automatic.
Nice review and cool doggie. 😁 I got a decent deal on my alpinist and I love it. Green is one of my favorite colors. The watch looks distinct and its very comfortable. I smiled as soon as I opened the box
I really enjoy the new format of your videos-which I mentioned before!-as it is different from 90% of watch videos I come across everyday.
Thank you very much!
I keep hearing about accuracy issues on 6r15 ... my alpinist ran under +3 to +5 sec and Padi MAS ran +10 to +15 over a 5 day period
Love mine on a Strapcode bracelet
Will water get into the rotating bezel since its not a screw down crown?
Green and Gold, official Australian colours.
The lume will do for a Japanese mountaineering watch and for my Japanese mountaineering needs? What does that even mean? I didn't know mountaineering in Japan is so different from other kind of mountaineering that it's specifically called "Japanese mountaineering".
A web search for “the ultimate seiko alpinist” will reveal a Spring Bar site detailing the history of the Alpinist line of watches. A not insignificant aspect of the enjoyment of the SARB017 is knowing that it is the fourth or fifth generation of a line of Alpinist watches first introduced in 1961. That site also has information regarding, and images of, the 2020 Alpinist release. The SARB017, the Alpinists, reflect my activities--cross-country bicycling, backpacking, hiking the Pacific Crest Trail. The SARB017 is a reminder of that type of accomplishment.
While the SARB017 looks and functions well with various straps, I have a SARB017 with OEM bracelet. The bezel shows respectable signs of regular use over the past five years. I also have a SARB013 (the cream dial-not actually white.) I consider it too rare to be worn on any but special occasions.
I bought it because of the green dial😍Thanks for this video.
Quite fair review. But I still (after 10 years in horology) don't understand why Seiko is so popular. Why the SKX and Alpinist are most talked about? In the $500 price point you have many Swiss watches which are far better built.
If I were to ever get this watch, I would get a two tone Jubilee bracelet to go with it. I saw someone put one of those on the Alpinist(I think Mark from LI Watch), and it looked just amazing. Great Video Oleg!
Thanks Chris. Quite a few people have suggested 2 tone jubilee. Now I want to try one on lol
@@24hourstime I understand!!
Hey Oleg, really like your videos. I need your opinion. I'm selling my Alpinist and Hamilton Khaki Automatic 38mm to buy Longines Hydroconquest 39mm Automatic. I kind of want to have only one watch collection. What do you think about this particular Longines, does it worth buying. Thanks !
I never understood the Alpinist hype either. I do like the look of the new blue dial version, but wouldn't pay the asking price.
It is crazy, but love mine. I would not pay a premium for it. And to each their own.
The blue one is killer. It's absolutely worth the asking price even with a premium, there is no other watch like it.
Will wait for the new Alpinist in Jan 2020
Hey Oleg i know you have a speedy, what you thick about a Porsche design sport chronograpsh they are around price section like the rolex explorer, i have two of them for trebute my two 911 7 and 8 gen turbo s, and i wonder have you see this watches and what you thick about them. Have a great day Bond too :) .
Hey Desislav, I don't have much experience with Porsche Designs watches. I've seen a few here and there but didn't spend enough time with one to form an opinion. Having a Porsche is almost a requirement before buying a Porsche Designs watch:)
Hey Oleg! Found it NOS on Amazon at CAD 500 tax in on Prime days.... guess what's coming in the mail....
Hi,Oleg. Thanks for sharing. Give Bond a big hug from me. 😆
Will do:)
It would be a turn off if it had a hardlex see through caseback and 100 mrs of WR.
I see what you did there
It is a very nice watch . I live in Toronto and am going to get the new Seiko 5 sports. It was only sale at the Bay for $283 . ( Now it is $375 ) if it goes down to $250 I will get it. What do you think ? Thanks . All your videos are good.
Thanks David. Yes, wait until the sale. $375 for a Seiko 5 is steep.
Your videos of buying the Rolex and the Tudor black Bay 58 were very entertaining . You are so lucky . I would love to get a black Bay 58. Maybe one day. Lol
A few months ago i picked up a Hamilton field automatic 38 mm. I like it. ( But the lume is bad ) . I got it on sale for $500 . My first swiss watch.
I really like this watch, but 500 dollars is not worth it. You can get much better watches for that price. I don't understand the increases in Seiko watches, they are not really all that special anyway until you get to the Grand Seiko. I am finding a liking to Orient which offers a much better value proposition I think anyway. If the new one will be 900 dollars, you can get some really decent watches for 1000.00
Totally agree with you about Orient. I picked the Kamasu with maroon dial and absolutely love it!
Orient sun an moon.!!!... 🌞🌛🌞🌛🌞🌛❤❤❤❤
Angelo Soulas That Watch is dope- nothing else like the red dial!
Would love to see it with a black dial, but struggle to think its worth more than 300-400$.
It is a great looking watch. But at the moment the watch is to expensive. Eager to see the new model. Great review.
Thank you!
3 new Alpinist models will be released in 2020
none as good as the sarb017. im trying to order one and daamn its so hard to get..
Great review as always, thank you for your candid opinion. I think Seiko di a nice job on this watch but I could never see the value for the cost. It is also disappointing what Seiko is doing lately with so many of there models, reducing features and raising prices. If I am truly going to pay more I would like to see the added value. I understand a few percent increase to cover cost increases but they are on a 25 -50% increase on most of what they make. I have many Seiko in my collection but I am beginning to look elsewhere. KEEP UP THE GREAT JOB !
Thanks
Thank you my friend. The best we can do is to vote with our wallets.
Can you provide a link to that bond nato strap?
www.bondnatostraps.com there you go Josh:)
do you ship to europe? would love one of those straps!
I thought he was european, but I'm on board with you on the NATO.
Hey Alex, yes I'll ship it to you in Europe:)
Hey man, very nice video :). Subscribed to you channel :)! I am also a watch fan and do watch related videos :)!
I wonder how much would the new one cost?
Just got it!!
I sold mine and replaced it with a Rolex OP 36mm. I tried to love it but it just didn't happen so I sold it. I guess all the media hype sucked me in.
That's quite an upgrade:)
@@24hourstime As we say in Australia, I stopped beating around the bush and just went for it. I also picked the Tudor BB58. The Tudor and Rolex sit proudly next to my Vostok Amphibia's, Omega Speedmasters and vintage Seiko 6139's.
It’s a cool watch
Nice video, keep it up!
Thank you!
I like green watches and really like the Alpinist, but I don’t love it. I love my Hamilton Field watches and feel the Alpinist does not offer enough to compel me to buy one. Let’s see what the new model brings .... Thanks for the excellent review, Oleg.
I'd take Hamilton Field watch over this Alpinist as well.
Made the mistake of selling mine for 200$ (bought new for 350$ back in 2016)....sold after spring bar jumped out and regret it every day after:(
The lume looks legit to me...
Please make a 10 min video of Bond snorting ♥♥♥
I would put that dial in a sarb 033 case and do away with the pointless compass
I would like to keep the 200 mrs WR. And in blue and grey.
It’s even better with a asteroid strapcode bracelet
I pretty much agree with everything you said... ☺️... But I still really like this watch.. Darnit 😂
You are wrong about the price, it's cheaper before it's being discontinued .. now the price sky rocket after discontinue like other SARB and like other seiko's.
PS: Apologize for my broken English
Have you been working out or is that a muscle suit you’re wearing?! Keep up the good work!
Haha thanks:)
Great idea for a video because it is definitely a very polarizing watch.
I can see others liking the green dial, the polished look, and the gold accent.
That’s not me
For me those hands scream old-fashioned and gold is never a thing. Then there is the date at the 3 and it is a scratch magnet.
This watch is either love it or hate it.
I have one and sometimes I like it, sometimes I don’t. The Japanese mountaineering thing for this model is mostly marketing. The original Seiko Laurel and Champion Alpinist watches looked completely different other than the mountain logo on the caseback. The current Alpinist dial design only dates back to the 90’s. I like the ‘compass’ but accept it is completely useless other than being an aesthetic element only. The watch isn’t actually any tougher than the SARB033/035, or any other half decent automatic watch and no one uses it for mountaineering. All Seikos and Orients have Diashock which is just Seiko’s name for their standard shock absorption system - most mechanical watches have something similar i.e Incabloc and it’s nothing particularly special.
The update looks like they will remove some of the white dial text, fortunately. I’d like to see a regulated movement with higher beat rate and reduced rotor noise. I would rather see those changes than a longer power reserve. A see through case back would unfortunately make the watch thicker.
"I have one and sometimes I like it, sometimes I don’t." this sums up my feeling about some watches lol
Seiko alpinist is way more appealing than a rolex explorer!
See the Archie luxury review
it is priceless
On the dial, the writing isn’t “Alpinist”, it says “automatic”. Only on the case back
At least it has character unlike most other seiko offerings. Cheers
Over the last few years it's hard not to see something about this Alpinist. Usually it all about how great this watch and how it's the best deal in the Seiko line-up. And although I do see some cool features to this watch I just couldn't pull the trigger. Then the Hodinkee model hit the streets and the hoopla began all over again. Sort of like what just happened with the Timex Q. I'll never say never about about the Alpinist but I'm taking a pass. But let me ask you something about Seiko. Why doesn't Seiko have a halfway affordable automatic movement that beats at 28,800 BPM? I don't get it. They probably have 100 prototypes that they've made over the years but we are all left with the low beat models including this 6R movement. We know Seiko wants to be considered at the same level as the Swiss but they seem reluctant to step up their game, other than Grand Seiko. The Swiss gives us 28,800 bpm watches in the $500 range. Where is Seiko?
It's a great watch, not for me though....I do love the shade of green they use....⌚🏴⌚🏴
Great watch except of the diameter. Looks funny on the wrist like mine. Anyway, suits young persons very much. Presentation was very professional . You deserve 👍👍👍Oleg👍
Thank you!
Hello Mr Bond and you to orlick what ever your name is called
Yah a Very Nice Watch its show Class & Style no wounder everyone love it so much
I love bond
Kills me how nobody seems to blink when Oris charges $1600. for the Big Crown...
I have better watches, better Seiko's, but I love my Alpinist really can't give a reason, one maybe it's one of my smaller watches, it's comfortable to wear, did get rid of the stock band and use a nice Barton leather strap. I have had it for about a year and wear it at least 4 days a week, and almost every night when I sleep. The odd think is I can't really nail the reason why I love it. It does make me happy. I know they did come out with a blue version which does look nice but sells for crazy prices, and honestly like the green color better. If I do get a scratch or two over the years, to me I'll look at them as battle scars. This doesn't mean I will abuse this watch. As far as the movement, this is not a new watch it's been around I can't give you the numbers but don't see myself adjusting it outside if I have to reset it do to not using it. I did buy it from an AD whom I trust and done business before and afterwards. I don't remember the exact price but it was just under $500 .
I do like that NATO on the green Alpinist. I don't care what they come out with, I got what I wanted, and don't see a reason for another.
BTW like your dog.
Seems like you have really connected with your Alpinist. I prefer the green dial version over the blue dial as well.
I have the Alpenist sarb017 and the question is “How can anyone not love it?”
Interesting watch and a very thorough presentation......but if I want a mountaineering watch, I'm looking for a G-Shock. Just my opinion.
Don P Yeah there’s nothing especially tough at all about these unfortunately.
Thanks Don!
hello mate how do you expect me to concentrate on what you are saying when their is a cute doggo in the video :D
lol
Green for the money, gold for the honey
LOL
I totally agree with you. I dont like the Alpinist, too but there is something amazing. I think the watch can be classified in a very unique positioning. With the name Alpinist and the compass it is somehow a field watch. The look shows almost a vintage look dress watch with a very unique color variation. I think green with gold tones works not only because of Rolex. The 200m reminds about Seikos divers but you will find nothing on the look of the watch. At the end it is a mixture of many elements which makes this watch so special. The expedition case back would be nice but than you would probably miss the 200m. With 50m it would miss the above mentioned link to a diver but I agree, they could put more energy into the design of the caseback. My maximum price point for this watch would be around 300-350€. Everything above is too much.
Good point. See-through caseback would probably reduce the water resistance.
At it's current price it is not a great value. When it was still being produced, it was available much cheaper and was a great value. I paid $330 about six months before it was discontinued.
Great review. I agree with you. I love my Alpinist, and hate the movement as it’s completely unreliable junk. I’ve paid for it new about 350 bucks about 2 years ago and that’s how much it’s worth. Upgraded version for $800 or more is a joke.
They're not rumours. Unsure why you call the news that.