Seiko Alpinist: The Best Japanese Rolex Explorer? SPB123 Watch Review
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- Опубликовано: 3 апр 2020
- Today we revisit a true Gentry classic - the beloved and highly important Seiko Alpinist. But this is no ordinary Alpinist! This is the latest generation with some surprising new upgrades. As this is such a cult watch amongst the Gentry audience and the wider Seiko loving watch community, it was only right for me to go old school with a traditional in-depth, desktop, hands-on review.
Join me to find out what is so special about this latest incarnation, including its history, improvements, and negatives. Is it worth the new hike in price? Why is it such an important watch to Seiko and to fans of the Alpinist line? Why has it earned the nickname "Japanese Rolex Explorer"? Is it still the best automatic field watch under $500? Find out answers to all that and more as we take a look at the legendary SBDC093.
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I own the Cream with gold, the Black with silver as well as the classicSARB017. The black is the most versatile for any light conditions. The green dial is at its best in sunlight while the cream boosts under indoor lighting.
And the steel bracelet on the Black dial is the most comfortable Seiko bracelet I've ever worn. Pure silk.
The lume is crisp and bright.
I was a doubter before I got my first Alpinist but now all three are my collection essentials.
I think you have pretty much reviewed almost every iconic Seiko watch in incredible detail (no small feat). Perhaps the Seiko Tuna might be next? Keep up the great content, it helps a lot of us keep our sanity in this pandemic world.
So happy to see yet another video from TGV. Informative and enjoyable as always.
Hey TGV; another great video. I also just wanted to say again how much I appreciate your well thought out commentary, and your beautiful watch shots. There are very few watches that you shoot that don’t at least look like something you want. Thank you for all of your hard work. Cheers
This is my FAVORITE of the new models! Thanks TGV.
Currently my priorities have changed to a different "task" shall we say, but in the future I'll keep this on my short list... Thanks again!
It was only a matter of time. Happy you chose the cream dial limited edition version to review.
Pure class TGV! Thank you for all the videos you have been making. Gives people something to look forward to. Peace and love to you TGV and the rest of the good Gentry.
What a great review and well-edited video! Congrats, TGV!
I’d wanted an Alpinist for a long time. When the new one was released, I checked it and ended up getting a NOS previous version. And love it.
This channel has completely gotten me into watches. It’s becoming increasingly difficult to even watch anyone else. The amount of good watches out there at the price point I am looking at is ridiculous and TGV makes these decisions easier. Great video once again !
Wearing the non Guilt cream version right now. Ordered a JDM version, very happy with it. Not cheap $688, but could do far worse. As said previous, I would like to get the new alpinst strap with clasp to use on my older green Alpinist. Even checked on Seiko's web site, not to much in the way of support outside of warranty and where to buy one. Saw a similar non Seiko strap on Ebay for $30, and that can be touch and go.
Outstanding content as always T! End it couldn’t go without mentioning, but your cinematography is remarkable…Those macro shots of the dial around the 11 minute mark are stunning!
Thanks for keeping it real in your review TGV! It’s easy to give into the hype sometimes.
Oh baby! This cremé dial is such a delight to the eye.
very cool color, love the green but the creme is beautiful
Would you prefer the gold or silver indexes on the creme dial?
@@SirPhillyLeong silver
wrg
You prolly dont care but does someone know a tool to get back into an Instagram account..?
I was stupid forgot the password. I appreciate any assistance you can offer me.
Loved the intro!
also reminded me that I'd lent out Ghost Dog to someone years ago and sadly never got it back.
You're my favorite RUclipsr. Love your work - it's always much enjoyed. Cheers!
Wow, great to see the Alpinist review! I actually just added the new released green dial version into my collection last month. Wearing with the Colareb strap, still in the honeymoon phase!
I have the cream (ivory?) dial with silver indices, it’s a fantastic watch. Had the Sarb017 but sold it as the green/gold wasn’t for me long term. My new model has all the same characteristics - yes it’s a hair thicker but you can hardly tell, however it has a superior movement and much more versatile colour scheme so win/win for me. Great review Guvnor👍
I say this with the utmost respect. Your videos now have joined for me a small but elite group of videos that actually help me sleep. Your voice my friend is extremely soothing. Your now considered by me to be in the same boat as Neil de grasse Tyson, and the great Bob Ross. Cheers mate
Angel P High company indeed!
Young man, I have to say that I completely enjoy all of your watch videos. This one in particular is fabulous!
1) Great Info
2) Fab production values
3) Wonderful music bed
4) Killer Brit accent
Keep it up you have a lot of fans :)
Just the Intro and the Woodprints you are presenting so well makes me want to have this watch
That intro was pure class, not liking the X now on the dials looks better without it on in my opinion.
It's not an "x", it's a crossed "P" and "S" for "Professional Specifications".
It seems that many brands start to cut corners on their new releases.. Look at the car manufacturers who build cheaper and cheaper made cars but the prices go up and up... Or the gaming industry.. Games are released at 70% completion state and then get patched to death.. But they still charge you x amount for an early access.. But as long as people buy it.. They wont stop to do it... It proofs that it works.. My boss once said.. It doesnt matter how dumb your product is.. There are always people buying it.. Which is a sad sad truth.. :(..
@@varanid9 The design looks out of place is that more clear for you.
I agree, fucking hate that 'X' ugly ass wart on the dial. Biggest design mistake in years from a company. With one exception - on their new SPB14 62Mas divers line, it doesn't look too bad. I am considering that one.
@@ExtraLeben Good points.
I got the SPB119 and love it. Yes, it’s not perfect but I can barely see the misalignment on the compass with my naked eyes. It only runs about 5 seconds slow each day. I think it was well worth the price. Looks great too.
I don't even watch TV anymore. Absolutely love your channel, everything about it. Well done sir!
It's just great that you have even better access to watches working for Watchbox, yet they give you the artistic freedom to maintain your personal style. The intros are unique and superb.
Tristano, any chance you can make a longines conquest review as an explorer alternative? So many alpinist reviews already
I couldn’t describe any Seiko as a cash grab, whilst Rolex exists. Much as I love Rolex, that is cash grabbery to make Ronnie Biggs blush.
This channel is worth watching just for the intros. I think I replayed it three times. Well done TGV.
Thanks for the review. The Alpinist has been on my radar. Love your content.
A lot of people looked down at their SARB017, and said "man, I am glad I have a SARB017."
The 017 i still available on eBay brand new... and easy to get secondhand...
love the new line and and just ordered the new limited Europe blue/green version.. have the black an white to day also 🤩
you're just saying that to make you feel good about your Sarb, you forget the 70 hour power reserve and everything that's better. i have both
For a person like me, who looking for a new watch and charmed by an alpinist, both watches have their own advantages. Sarb have nice clean crystal surface without cyclops and a reasonable price. Spb has much better power reserve and nice face. For a multiple watch owner, not that much for everyday change, 70hour power reserve makes me leaning towards to spb
I look down and say that every day.
got a spb197... it's beautiful
My favorite Alpinist is the SARB015. It’s black with the dauphine hands (which I prefer over the cathedrals) and shark tooth indices.
It would be perfect to me but I hate date window on 4 :(
I really enjoy this review... esp the history part...BGM and your voice really smoothing. Thanks!
Superb intro, great episode. You just gotta love Seiko. 👍🏻
I missed the boat with the SARB017 and have fallen in love with the SPB121 (green dial) I’m saving my money whilst in lockdown for a treat when all this madness is over.
I like you solan sir, stay safe, thank you.
Best regards,
TGV
You can get the sarb017 cheaper than spb121
Update. Just added a green Alpi to my Amazon shopping list at something less than 450. I'll let that ruminate for awhile before pulling the trigger. Green a favorite color and. well, it's just a very pretty, useful watch.
out of all the colors new or old I love that green the most ! wanted to get married in it in June but with this virus stuff might not happen and might have to hold out on the watch
I greatly appreciated the history lesson in this episode TGV! Had to go get my SARB017 out of the drawer to watch this.
Cheers, stay safe!
Absolutely adore the Alpinist. This is a really lovely review. Thanks for making it, enjoyed it.
A bit confused at the info about the size inscrease? Isn’t it the exact same size as the sarb017 aside from being slightly thicker?
TGV,
Love your work! I eventually want to get an Alpinist as well. Would you be able to look at some Grand Seikos in the near future? Them and Rolex are my ultimate Holy Grails and would love to see your take on them!
Thank you, funny you say that, I am indeed planning to return to GS soon. It has been over a year since my last 3 part GS special. Looking forward to it.
Best regards,
TGV
I love the production of the video, just chilling in my apt checking out some pictures and looking through my telescope onto the street...
Yet another beautifully artistic Intro sir. Great job and a highly thorough review as always.
Thank you for keeping us all highly entertained during this time.
Thank you so much :D
I am determined not to let anything stop the content coming!
Onwards and upwards.
Best regards,
TGV
This is probably going to be my first "expensive" watch purchase, really torn between this beauty and the Hamilton Khaki Field Auto. The hiker in me is really rooting for the Alpinist though!
Thanks for the video as always!
so which one did you buy?
I was in the same dilemma, but I picked the Alpinist. The Hamilton looks cheap with the printed dial (still like it tho). Alpinist: applied indexes, better brand, better lume, AR coating, better water resistance, unique compass, argubly better movement. (Cheaper to maintain, easier to regulate, better longevity) The Alpinist is overall more interesting, completely unique design.
Not my cup of sake, but I can admire the beauty in it he he
Thank you Aditya, great to hear from you,
I hope you are well stay safe.
Best regards,
TGV
@@theurbangentry GD intro. Niiiiioce
Agreed
Great review, good job TGV very interesting watch!!
Great video as always, thanks TGV 👍
suspicious coincidence...for several days - again - I have been meditating on a new Alpinist. I'm curious about your opinion. I press play and start watching. Greetings from Poland!
That intro was trippy, thought I had clicked some kinky anime video by mistake lol
Another amazing video TGV! thank you so much. Stay safe and healthy mate!
Thank you so much :D
Stay healthy too.
Onwards and upwards!
Best regards,
TGV
TGV, your intros are just pure class. Not something i would normally go for, however this piece is extremely inviting especially with the dial. Possibly no date would secure it for me! Great content as always, stay safe. 👍
SkilfulLeader1 It’s a great dial👌
Bought this the other day as a bday gift to myself! Loving it!
Did the sales assistant wear white gloves??
Imagine if they did a gmt complication in this case/dial design (like an updated mechanical version of the sbcj019)....Shut up and take my money
Tom Budahazy Damn right!
I'd much prefer a 24 hour rotating dial on this watch than a compass I'll never use.
Yes, yes, yes, I have been daydreaming of a 12 hour internal bezel for years. Why doesn't Seiko to it?
@@Ronin228 üüüüüü
Exactly this. A world-time inner dial would actually be used, unlike the compass (by 99% of users)
Great video 👍 thanks exactly what I needed to review this watch which I am considering............
I have the sarb017 and I have the new cream with silver indices model. They both wear slightly different but are both absolutely stunning pieces. I am in love with both and often feel guilty on the one I choose not to wear that day lol. Great video Sir.
As a SARB017 owner I think the most appealing new variation of this watch is the black dial/Steel bracelet SPB117. With it's slightly different dial layout the coolest thing about this one is that it still looks like an Alpinist but with a very interesting Diver aspect and feel which, in my opinion renews the essence of the lineup.
Love your thoughtful, almost lyrical, descriptions of the design elements! I can attest that this is a beautiful watch with a robust new movement, as I have both the ivory/steel and green/gilt models. I didn't even notice the slight misalignment of the compass points until watching a couple of RUclips videos! The compass still works, in the unlikely event I would actually need it. I'd prefer to rely on a magnetic compass. I've been wearing both models for a couple of weeks now and don't regret the purchases.
I just added a 6R35 powered alpinist to my collection, the SPB197. The 200 meter water restance , built in compass ring and 70hr power reserve made it my new swimming/adventure watch. Stunning little buggar.
Man,,you really go extra mile every time you do your review,,it is really educating.
Great jobs!
I had once buy hamilton pilot because of you review.
Hi TGV
Yes, of course it’s the Japanese Explorer. But not as some kind of a homage watch, a piece with its true own identity. Everything is always measured against Rolex.....but really, Seiko was first here, weren’t they😆
Always liked the Alpinists - but until now not enough to actually buy one. The strange mix of elegance and utilitarian design is compelling, in a way nostalgic and surely classy. I was very tempted when the now classic green version was hot. Think it still is...
I haven’t been handling this one, but judging from this video and the measurements I would guess it’s a bit too big for me. Not as a field watch, but I would probably use it as some kind of an elegant casual piece...😊
Thank you, and keep up the good work👍
Def go for the green one my friend, if you get a chance. An "elegant casual piece" sounds about right.
Thank you my friend, stay safe.
Best regards,
TGV
I’d like to see Seiko align something correctly the bezel, the markers, or the crown between the guards( on other models). They have been around to long for this to be amateur hour.
Seiko’s QC is really down the drain...
My Alpinist actually came aligned at all rotations, lucky I guess
They correct that on the new Seiko 5 SK’s .....they got rid of the rotating bezels.
Miguel Maldonado to late
Such a nice video! my friend has a SARB017 and I went searching to know more about it. This is really nice and informative. I enjoyed the research put into the historical background and the editing is well done. :D :D Also appreciate the honest feedback on the weaknesses. Definitely one of my favourite episodes from you.
Great review. My takeaway is that I won't be trading up from my Sarb017. I'd really like a cyclops and the better movement, but one of my favorite things about the Sarb is the case dimensions. It wonderfully manages to be both robust and sleek. That's what makes it classy.
I definitely wasn’t a fan of these Prospex Alpinists when I first saw them. However, I am coming around on this version and the black version. I think they will be the classics from this run of Alpinists.
What you said about a high end Alpinist is awesome. I’d spend $3k on one if they did it right.
nakinate I like the black version better
OMG...$3k for an Alpinist even if they could do it right? Don’t encourage them, or Seiko will be glad to increase prices again.
James H. Nazarian, Ph.D. Eh, you’d still have tons of cheaper Alpinists to choose from on the market.
James H. Nazarian, Ph.D. agreed , and then where would Grand Seiko fit?
Bigger price tags make TGV feel better about his watches.
The intro with Lady Snowblood was fantastic and a great homage to one of the best Japanese films of all time. If you haven't seen it, I recommend you set some time aside to watch it. You won't be disappointed.
ooo that's nice! I will try it! thank you for recommending. :D :D
Hey, TGV! Been awhile since I've stopped by. My wrist check today (nearly every day!) is my Seiko SARB017, which I learned about from you, sir, and is to date my favorite watch in my modest collection. Hope you've been well, and thanks for your superb content. I have a lot of catching up to do. Cheers!
Your reviews are just simply incredible. Thank you.
When I watch a channel regularly, I tend to start skipping the intros. Usually they're about 95% too long. Yours I've been looking forward to.
Absolutely fantastic watch. Went in a shop and tried it on. If it had Rolex written on it it would've come with a price tag 10 times higher
Only 10? I reckon 20 minimum.
I just put a deposit for 2x sarb017 and this watch. Can't wait to have it on hand
@@watchouchDid you get it? Im wearing my spb123 and I love it l.
@@ratedm90 yep and I sold them both...
@@watchouch why?
Good timing TGV! Wearing my SARB017 right now during my quarantine in Colorado. Cant get near anyone (I'm sick) for a while but I still can change watches. Love the Alpinist, wearing it on my Wrist Candy Watch Club green yellow striped NATO Strap. Stay healthy and thank you for the videos, they help so much for those of us in lockdown.
Another great video TGV, hope you and your wife stay safe during these tough times
I can't see any reason to trade my almost 8 years old green Alpinist for this one.
agreed
Chaim Magal It would be a costly downgrade. I agree.
Agreed, bought both ;) Definitely worth owning two, now a lighter and darker-colored dial for versatility. If you get a chance try one on, I find the extra height makes it wear slightly different and I love the new height, but I like thick watches. Cheers!
but you can buy the other 2 dial colour
When you're on a good thing stick to it.
I really want a blue alpinist, need to find one at a reasonable price. Your videos have really ignited my passion for watches, thanks TGV.
You have to pay a premium for that blue one. I got mine last year, paid a fortune. You should be no different, lol.
I paid retail. It’s too bad they did a limited run. I’m sure they’ll reintroduce it with this new line.
I’ve seen the blue one for $900. It’s. Nice, but not that nice.
I'd love the blue dial also think I'll settle for this one
Keep the reviews coming, you are great!
Great video TGV, classy as usual. I love the gilt combined with the white dial, I wish more manufacturers produced gilt watches.
Too beefy, your right caseback is not required, alignment is a shocker. Toodle pip ! Stay safe. Best wishes.
Personally, I think this is by far and away the nicest looking Alpinist. Might be tempted..
Great episode with a fantastic intro.
Those are gorgeous. I saw a goldtone Seiko 5 with the sunny yellow dial (it was going to get a navy blue Marathon strap. Let's Go, Predators!!! Lol), but you're absolutely correct about the Alpinist's versatility. Suitable for work and play, and date nights to destinations other than hockey games. Oh hell, I may hafta have one of each. Great show!
I've never quite warmed to the design language of the Alpinist. I want to but I just can't. I used to think it was the old green colorway but the new ones prove that it's the style. Those hands and font look baroque. Now mismatched in the Prospex line, that ghastly lens (always brings Mike from Monsters Inc. into view) and thick, that's it, last nail for me. (And don't get me started on the QC level at Seiko, which anecdotally is more than skin deep.) Thanks for the review TGV.
16:41 LMAO TGV
Outstanding production value with this review.
Thumbs up just for that intro alone. Subscribed!
" there is no watch journalism left, only watch dealer "
What a line.
We all know who's his talking about.
H
Who's he talking about?
Every other watch reviewer on youtube
The Prospex logo is definitively out of place on this retro style dial...
Bit of Alan Partridge about the "Japanese Rolex Explorer"
Eat my goal! :D
Thank you,
Best regards,
TGV
Always love your intros! Good Video good watch. But I will still loving my classic green SARB017
I bought this reference just yesterday. I already own the black dial version and love it. Many thanks for another great review!
Andrew Williams It’s a fantastic piece!
I wonder what's the longest continously produced Seiko?
Dial color is very nice. Cyclops, ‘X’ and display back? Horrid.
Good evening TGV! Great Intro you did there! The Lady Snowblood movies are great classics of japanese cinema. Dame goes for the Alpinist, a classic watch! Have a great Saturday!
Thank you Heiko, so glad to hear you enjoy Japanese Cinema too.
They are among my top fave films. How are you?
Stay well my friend, have a great rest of the weekend too.
Best regards,
TGV
I was surprised to have found one at my Seiko dealer yesterday, I couldn't resist buying it. Such a good looking and quality feeling Seiko
Oof I can't see spending anything substantial on any watch that can't even get the alignments perfect that would tick me off. Bad pun sorry :)
I have the sbdc093 the creme dial with green band. From the first batch, I got it the day it released, The compass is not lined up at all and the cyclops is just ever so crooked... Weep womp
@@timazbill7746 Damn I recently bought/had my first seiko ssb341 chronograph watch delivered and was looking over it a lot for misalignment and imo it all checks out and is really well built for the under 200$ price. Which honestly makes it ever more disappointing they couldn't get it right on a more expensive piece.
@@GreenThumbSyndrome exactly my skx013 was 249 and it lines up perfectly
The cream dial version is my personal favourite...not overly keen on the cyclops I have to say, but it’s not a deal breaker.
Intro was quality!! I really like it personally. I'm looking into maybe getting an alpinist and this is definitely a contender. Love the cream dial. Just looks class. Shame the compass does not align though. Bit of deal breaker unfortunately. Once again another great video. Keep up the great work!!
I collect vintage and recently purchased one of those “dressy minimalist ancestors.” - Champion Alpinist (ie Gen 2). Loving it.
Great vid btw. Turned me onto the history and pedigree of this fine timepiece.
This watch is fantastic! It’s in my cart lol
Jack Gentry Buy it👍
Nice review, TGV. I was very close to buying this in the cream version but the thickness was the deciding factor against. I prefer a flatter watch, something like a Hamilton Khaki Field for everyday wear. It was tempting but just too chubby. Cheers!
Thanks TGV my flighty just arrived today your love for the watch is well placed! Tnx for the recommendation.
You know its dope when the intro is serious!
I noticed that the new version no longer has the "applied" loom dots. It's something I've not seen any reviewer mention about the Alpinist, but struck me straight away on closely examining my green Alpinist. Those tiny dots of lume have a miniscule gold collar around their base. For me, its those small finishing details that make the previous Alpinist special, and sadly, through it abscence, another example of cost cutting.
I love alpinist one of the best alternatives to Explorer
I have both the SARB017 and this SPB123, the first is definitely better finished, I'm using the first, darker, during sunny days, and the second in the evening almost every days, because it's highly readable.
Both are definitely keepers, no matter the obvious small defaults of the latest.
Great video as always, I’d love a Sarb017 but they’re getting more and more scarce in the UK and prices are rising so I may well go for one of these new ones, at least the movement’s will be newer and hopefully not need servicing as soon! Don’t mind the cyclops either since it harks back to previous models in any case