Transmission Band Adjustment Procedure : RH & RE - DIY Series - Dodge & Jeep Trucks
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- Dodge / Chrysler Rear Wheel Drive Band Adjustment Settings.
A904 / A727 / A500 / A518 / A618 / TF6 / TF8 / 42RH
42RE / 44RE / 46RH / 46RE / 47RH / 47RE / 48RE
This is not a how to and we are not technicians ; our intent is to offer insight to these procedures.
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8 hours ago I didn't know anything about transmission's. My 46re was acting up and not shifting on time and downshifting into 2nd at 50 or 55 if I let off the gas. Thought for sure I was going to have to buy a new tranny. Thanks to your videos I was able to change the filter, removed and cleaned the governor pressure solenoid & did the band adjustment just as you described. Just got back from a test drive and all problems fixed! Shifts so smooth you almost can't tell it shifts. Thanks for the videos! Very much appreciated.
I did exactly what this video said to do and did so without a torque wrench. That was two years ago. Thank you.
Amen
I often do hand feel tightening but since I am not familiar with vehicle work vs machine shop or gun work I have been hoping that the wrench I bought is accurate to ensure I get it right till I get used to how it feels in all these odd angles while working on soft muddy dirt and what not squeezed under my vehicle (instead of in a nice shop standing environment LOL)
I adjusted my bands for the first time on my 2003 Ram 2500 Diesel, with this same transmission being used in this demo. Didn't have a inch torque wrench, I loosen lock nut an then I tighten until it felt snug. Once I felt the adjustment bolt tight, I backed off 2 turns. I must say the problem between 1st an 2nd I had at times is gone. I ran my truck loaded all day on a 240 mile trip , not once the transmission acted up between 1st an 2nd gear. My transmission shifts smoother an like when it was new.
I would loosen that just a bit more, only 2 turns out is a bit snug on that front and you run the risk of pre-maturely wearing that lining.
right around 2.5 Turns out as they suggest here is just about ideal, some run at 2 1/4 turns out but not more tight than that.
@@Quadman808 the factory service manual says 2&7/8 turns on the front and 2 turns on the rear...
am i missing something? or who what specs should i trust ?
Much Thanks for recommending checking the spring, low behold that was my issue, broke in 3 pieces, never would’ve checked it otherwise
Great videos. These provide a lot of good info. However, the tranny is on a bench. I had to adjust the bands with the tranny in the truck. Used a crow's foot wrench for the nut on the outside of the case. I put a piece of tape on my torx socket and marked it with a vertical line - so I could tell the rotation. Still not easy but doable. I did everything listed in the video, and my truck is shifting great.
Thank you for your videos! I just ordered the Governor Pressure Service Kit for my 46RE. I wish I would have found you all sooner as I paid $1400 for a shop to rebuild the tranny on another truck, when it probably just needed the sensors and band adjustment... Live and learn!
trans shops are such fucking scams
So far this is the best video I've found on a 14 bolt transmission band adjustment thank you so much For this excellent video
OMG I'm gonna Hang my tie up this weekend and based on this video see if I can Save myself $550 & get my transmission to stop slipping by doing just this to both screws & not to worry I will replace the Pan gasket and filter along with the Spring and refill with ATF + 4 transmission fluid because it's a 2001 Dodge ram 1500 5.9🤘 Dude YOU ROCK 🤘🏆😎🤙 thank you so much for taking the time to show us this🤗☮
And oldie but a goodie! Just did this today to my son's 1990 D150 pickup. I did the band adjustment under the pan, but no way to reach the one on the outside with the linkage and all of the other stuff in the way. I was hoping not to have to remove it, but may need to. The 3-4 accumulator spring was also broken, too. :-)
I came out there in person and got the kit for my 5.2 jeep to replace the solenoids , Your shop is close to and it tows way better and shifts perfect , Great vid ! I did adjust the bands when I did the install , But this vid helps a ton . thanks ! THUMBS UP MAN ..
+ShawnMrFixitlee thank you for the kind words!
Great video, but just FYI: 72 inch lbs is 6 foot lbs, not 8 1/2.
Glad I'm not the only one that realized this
Best how too video ever, thankyou.
Thank you soo much. Ser for your video it was very helpful for me I was stuck on it thanks God I found your video thanks again 👍🙏
Was just curious to see what type of socket I'd need for the adjustment. I got that plus tons more valuable info. Thanks! That outside band adjustment screw is going to be a pain in the butt to get too while attached :(
there's a couple styles of adjustment studs, the squared one normally a 1/4" socket will work good
the other ca be a reverse torx or allen, sometimes just requires checking to get the correct tool
The turns depend on the model. Some call for 2 7/8 turns some 2 1/2. I've always found these accumulator springs broken. In every trans. Quality shift kits include a new one.
What are the symptoms of a bad spring?
Often there are no symptoms....I find them broken when I install the Transgo kits.
@@billcat4331 well so much for hoping it was that lol. My trans doesn't shift until the rpms are over 2k not sure the problem. Ive replaced the 2 plug in parts 2 days ago and not much change. It's seems to shift smoother through the gears
@@ketchupmustard5465 I know this has nothing to do with transmissions but has your utube changed recently? I lost a Library of over a thousand videos...all my subscriptions..the content is a bunch of fluff crap...no current conservative news....
this happened like 20 minutes ago. I reopened utube and it had gone to shit that quickly
Two questions . Will low reverse band adjustment cause buzzing/moan in reverse when first cold started in 42re Jeep? .. and what symptoms does the broken 3-4 spring give?
Awesomeness!
At approximately 1:16 he says tighten the front band to 72 inch pounds or about 8 and 1/2 foot pounds but all the online conversion charts states 72 inch pounds equals 6 foot pounds. Was this a misstatement by the narrator of this video ? Would it be 8 and 1/2 foot pounds or 6 foot pounds ?
72 inch-lbs / 12 inch = 6 ft-lbs
This video helped me out so much. You have fan. Thank you. I do everything myself. Enjoy it. With your help. I feel proud when it’s right.
If you don't have a torque wrench, you have no business messing with the bands in the first place.
That’s what I was thinking too lmaooo. I was like who tf doesn’t have a torque wrench
@@devin3156 some people have em,but they don't know how to use em,
Agreed. Torque specs are imperative in transmissions.
Real shit
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I've been rebuilding automatic transmissions 45 years , I just go by feel if it feels right , lock it down 👍
Thank you so much for the information
Great video! That's how you do it!
I'm curious to know if it should be in park or neutral when making that front band adjustment as well as the rear band please and thank you. Also your video was very helpful
Very helpful thank you sir god bless
Holy wow, great directions. I assume this also applys to a 76 AMC/Jeep DJ-5 232 with Torqueflight 727 transmission??
Hello - yes this applies to nearly all rear wheel drive models with bands - TF6 / TF8 / A904 / A727 + many others
Transmission Band adjusting can be intimidating , but really fairly simple - Thanks for your kind compliment !
Thankyou!
Perfect job !!!!!!
Great video! But according to Chrysler its supposed to be backed out 3 turns on the front band, and 4 turns on the rear......
Please tell us all why you have chosen 2.5 turns and 3 turns instead???!?!?!?!!!
Great video, but question: wouldn't 72 in-lbs be 6 ft-lbs, not 8.5?
Thanks a lot I was wondering how to adjust the band
+TheVintagetamiya no problem! If you need anything for your automatic transmission please be sure to check out our website!
Hi Luke, the car had shown "Input/Shaft Speed Sensor No Signal" error and was recently fixed. The professional was not speaking English well and all I understood is that the input/shaft gear had to be adjusted to always send the signal to the "Input/Shaft Speed Sensor". I wonder could what you explained in the video be what he actually did to solve the problem. I would appreciate if you can point me in the right direction.
Great videos. Thank you
Excuse me guys cascade transmission parts it’s a high performance?? I means it’s better than mopar dealer?
In this band adjustment video you state to torque to 72 inch pounds or 8 1/2 foot pounds. The direct conversion for 72 inch pounds is 6 foot pounds. So why do you say 8 1/2 foot pounds?
IF YOU DRAIN OR ADD FLUID TO THESE MODELS
BE SURE TO FILL THESE TRANSMISSIONS WHILE RUNNING IN NEUTRAL ON LEVEL GROUND
THIS WILL EXHAUST ANY AIR THAT's IN THE SYSTEM.
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Thank you for that info as well . Mine needed "burping" a few times as air had been trapped in my system before.
I did not know this. I would turn a curve and transmission would kick out of gear. Took a few weeks and it stopped. Thanks for info as now I need to pull the pan again.
In the haynes manual it says for the rear band to back off 4 turns (44RE V6)
but for 46RE V8 it says back off 2 turns. I have a 5.2L V8 with the 44RE which one should i do?
I'm confused.. 72 inch pounds equals 6 foot pounds, not 8 1/2 foot pounds?
I wish these guys would do one on the 1980s T5 world class Borg Warner 5 speed manual
Now this is a good video!
Great video, thank you.
I have 2001 gas burner automatic transmission four-wheel-drive 5.9 gas the reverse wasn’t working so I tightened up the band and the first gear or the one you adjusted on the outside my reverse works fine but when it shifts out of first gear that the truck acts like you hit the emergency breaks and slows down fast
Just wanted to get confirmation on how many turns to back off. I have a 99 durango with the 46RE. My manual only coverd the turns for 42/44RE and each lists different number of turns. I have searched the net and found a posting listing the 46RE as "Front band back off 2 7/8 turns" "Rear Band back off 2 turns". I see in the video above you did 2.5 on front and 3 on the rear. Which is correct for my 46RE?
According to the factory service manual, you back off 2 7/8 turns for the front band, and 2 turns for the rear band.
Great Video King!
Thank you , for this useful video.
I called every auto parts here Pensacola Fl., they don’t have it. They can’t figure what hell it is, accumulator spring 46re. And it’s all over amazon, it just takes a 5 days or a week.
So, according to the service manual for my 2000 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4.0l with the 42re transmission. The front band is supposed to be turned out 4 an 5/8ths turns. Are the 2.5 turns that were covered in this video accurate?
in our industry many builders slightly vary what they like,
the info mentioned in this video is what i use and much of our industry rebuilders use.
* once set then slight modifications are often done 1/8th turn at a time or so
hope this helps
Why does this need to be done? I’m going to change my pan/filters on my 02 Jeep WJ 4.7L. I read it needs to be done after this, but why? It was driving fine before, how would it change? Thanks, Luke!
The bands have friction material kind of like a reverse brake shoe. It wears slowly over time and needs adjusting to maintain proper function. They will eventually wear out and at that point it might just be better to do a total rebuild.
Why did you have to tight the front band adjust stud twice ? One with the torque wrench at 72 lbs. then again with the hand tool ,it seems like when you reach 72 lbs with the torque wrench was really tight but when you use the hand tool was kind of loose enough to tight it with the hand tool ..Thanks.
He was demonstrating two diff ways to do that procedure, one WITH torque wrench & the other without.
@@hutfrd I didn’t hear it the first time, thanks ✌🏻
Spec is 72 Inch Lbs For Both Band Studs - 2.5 Turns Out Front / 3 Turns Out Rear
You can slightly deviate from these settings , but we have found these to be ideal for nearly all models.
If you don't have a torque wrench studs should be tightened firm without physical exertion , then back off to suggested spec.
* This Video Is Intended As A Support Guide , We Are Not Technicians
We Stock All Parts for these Automatic Transmission Models !
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Never saw correction on the 72 inch pounds or 8 1/2 foot pounds...8 1/2 foot pounds = 102 inch pounds...72 inch pounds = 6 foot pounds. Good products Cascade
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Another note is that not all of these transmissions will allow the use of a 1/4 socket. Mine required a square socket and anything above 2 7/8 turn back off of that bolt caused mine to slam into OD. Ended up adjusting mine to 2 turns out on both front and rear and it shifts great, not binding or slamming of gears.
very helpful thanks!
Dude awesome thanks
Nice work 😍❤️😋
Quick question, I’ve got a 01 5.9 Cummins Automatic , Would the bands Not being adjusted properly cause the Clutches to not grab ( Slip when accelerating, an Burn up ? ) all out of No where I’ve got a Horrible Hopping and the RPMs go from Normal to 2grand - 2 1/2 when accelerating from 40 to 50mph. But ONLY does it in that range An Seems to be ok when Warm.. Doesn’t do it nearly as Often. Other then that she seems to drive great.. No leaks , Heat Gauges are Spot on. No grinding Or even Clunking into gear..
Can a bad adjustment make it slip when shifting from first to second?
a slip will always be clutch friction plates or bands,
adjusting atleast the front band every 50k very critical on these
if you have a fresh rebuild the bands 1st adjustment should be @ 5k
Put MORE throttle pressure,there are NO CLUTCHES involved with a 1/2 shift STRICTLY A BAND!. Don't listen to this guy!. I'm a retired trans tech.
awesome video, well made, i need to replace my transmission filter in my 95 ram auto, can i just adjust the otter band and be safe or would i have to adjust the inner band also? thanks!
Max Knight
I got a jeep grand Cherokee 4×4 42re it's got 287563 miles on and it won't release 3rd gear i put all sensors except i didn't adjust 3rd gear what adjustment do I use.
The specs in the manual I read were 2 turns out for the rear servo and 2 7/8 out on the front servo. Not sure where you came up with 3 turns out for the rear. I try to make it less so there is not as much servo/piston movement on the rear servo as I have seen the spring retainer get pushed through the snap ring that holds it in. Also I recommend getting the heavy duty spring retainer on the rear servo and installing that because the OEM one is cheap and weak. This is the 46re I am talking about here and not the 47re or the 48re.
Not sure which manual you have in hand, these settings are ideal for everything for the A500 / 42RE to the 48RE Diesels
we have come up with these over the last 22+ years tinkering and setting builds, please know 2 turns out on the rear and
you run the risk of heavy drag on that drum or worse, stripping the lining. That rear band is rigid and won't stretch, therefore why we start at 3 turns. anything close to 3 turns as you suggest on the front and once it stretches a bit you will drop the wedge and strut down into the pan.
Of course everyone is welcome to set their bands where they want, but these suggestions have Never Ever Failed Us.
** please know you can tighten them up, but our settings are for the best wear without sacrificing hold and performance.
Never seen black trans fluid lol I'd say it needs more then a band adjustment
How can you tell I just replaced all that now my truck does not want to take off in first gear and it can go into drive Andover drive anywhere from 6 mi to 32 miles did I get a bad Governor solenoid sensor
Thank you. But the book says back off front 3 and rear 4, so.....is your version updated or something, just asking, sort of confused.
Can you just adjust the front band by itself?
Yes
How do you get to 8.5 ft lbs? Isn't 72 inch pounds = 6 ft pounds?
I have a 2001 1500 two-wheel drive with a 5.2. all gears shift normally but when I hit any kind of bump while the truck is in overdrive it slips a little bit. Other than that it shifts just fine. And my transmission fluid level is spot on. Would adjusting the bands help with this issue or do I have other problems?
To tighten down hard ...then loosen it up a lot .. got it
When I put my truck in drive and try to give it gas it'll jerk hard then drive and everytime I come to a stop and try to give it gas it'll do that same thing it'll jerk bad then moves I just had the transmission rebuilt last week still not sure why it's jerking everytime I try to go
I have a 46re AT in a 2002 dodge ram 1500 4x4 . throwing a P0783 code ( 3/4 shift malfunction ) . I have used the pressure solenoid kit to replace all solenoids and switch in transmission. new filter/fluid. no metal in pan. it is still throwing the P0783 code. would adjusting the bands solve this issues of the code coming back ???
My Jeep isn't wanting to shift in to second. But if I manually shift it shifts fine but. Around 50 it starts pulling down hard. And do believe it only shifts into 3rd maybe 4th definitely won't go into 5th and pretty sure only goes into 3rd any suggestions.?
Amazing video
sonnex is great parts too
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Hello. I have a few questions that I'm hoping you can help me out with...
Why do you guys offer "generic" band adjustment settings, when in the factory Chrysler manuals, the band settings vary a bit from transmission to transmission? Seems that problems will arise sooner when you are out of spec. No?
Also, what exactly is the purpose of the 3-4 accumulator spring? I just replaced mine, as it was broken when I removed the cover.
My real problem is this... My truck's trans has a functioning lockup, but no 4th gear at all. Truck is a 2001 Dodge Ram 2500 V-10 4x4 with the 47RE transmission, with about 183K on the clock. It tows mildly, and it plows snow in the winter. I just bought the truck a few months ago and stupidly didn't realize that 4th gear wasn't functioning, or I would have never bought the truck!!!
Anyhow, I was thinking about replacing the 3-4 shift and lockup solenoids (because they are "paired" together) next, but I really hate to just "parts replace" when I don't know if they are actually bad or not. As you know, parts ain't free. So, I'm looking for any suggestions you can offer me to check / test first.
Is there an "in-vehicle" test that I can do to see if the 4th solenoid is functioning? Is there a test to see if there is a valve body issue? How about a test to know if you have a mechanical (clutch plates) failure? My guess is that to damn it mechanically, you have to get there by the process of elimination, once you have confirmed everything else electrically is working properly?
What I'm wondering is that if it were a hard part failure (such as burnt clutches or stripped gears, wouldn't the OD be inoperative as well - or are there totally separate clutch packs that used for 4th gear and for OD? I've never been "into" an automatic transmission that deeply before.
It's also my understanding that the solenoids are shifted (controlled) by the PCM, which controls the ground circuit. Does that make sense? If the lockup is working fine when in 3rd gear, does it make any sense that the 4th gear still does not engage at all?
Bottom line is that if you didn't know the truck is supposed to be a 4 speed, you'd never know you have a problem... because hydraulically, it shifts fine through the first 3 gears. Where you realize there is a problem is when you look at your speedo and your tach (or listen to the engine's roar at highway speed). The engine is turning somewhere around 2,200 - 2,300 RPMs at 60 mph. You can't pass a gas station b/c the damn truck is only getting about 7 mpg!
Any assistance would be GREATLY appreciated!
Hello - typicall we prefer all questions go through our website so we can have actvie dialogue
Regarding band settings - we have found for gas , diesel , small or larger models these band settings by far apply to the masses - there's very fine slight tuning that can be done to the front but not suggested for most as it's possible to strip the band lining off if to much tighter than this.
you comment about this " process of elimination " is correct
much of these repairs are just working through a list of possibles
there's some ohm testing that can be done on the solenoids , but
by and large they have to be tested on a solenoid dyno to know for sure the function.
You may be able to dis-assemble the valve body and find something wrong also..
I can tell you with some amount of conviction with that many miles on it ;
99% of these trucks need our full solenoid service kit and a shift kit of some sort.
Solenoids for these are somewhat wear items after a long period of time.
Additionally springs in the valve body become tired , as you found with the 3-4 spring broken.
dropping the pan may show you some of the more serioues problems if present.
Sorry we can't comment of the Pcm of items beyond the central transmission itself.
A very good start point may be our ATSG Technical Manual for these trucks see our part # " ATSG-48RE "
Turbo Diesel
Help
Turbo Diesel you can take the valve body off and put air to the servos to see if they are functioning. You will see them come out like a ram when under pressure.
My outside adjustment tensioner was spinning freely it would not tighten to spec so I just put the lock nut back on and now it’s shifting fine? Doesn’t make sense but it worked
to clarify the front band stud spins freely ? If so it must be stripped in the case; not sure how long it will hold.
If it worsens and you end up building or recasing the trans we're here to help; we stock everything for these transmissions.
Glad it helped for the short term on your issue.
I tightened mine to 8.5 ft lbs like the video says but then I realized 72 inch lbs is actually 6 ft lbs. how do I redo the process?
Hi,,I have issues,but my check engine light is not on would it be
Pressure Solenoid ? I have a 1997 dodge dakota 318-5.2-4x4--146.000--The truck shifts in all the gears but it slips or bump into gear..Trying to say it slips little and lite harsh shifting..Please if you can get back with me..THANKS !!
Mine is going from 1st to 3rd gear it won't shift into 2nd gear would this adjustmen works for that too? thanks for the video
I would get a new shift solenoid.
I’m seeing conflicting info regarding the rear band 30RH and 32RH. What are the torque specs and back off turns? Thanks
You don’t sell the Spring on the website anymore
wondering i have a dakota 3.9 4x4 2000.all gears work ,reverse seems to engage get slight movement if I help by pushing with one foot ,but basically doesn't seem to be going in all the way .. would this be related to this problem or not. thnks
Thanks very helpful
I was going to order parts thru these guys but I started reading some reviews on google and it seems a lot must have changed because most of the reviews from the past 2 or 3 years are like 1 star and they are bad and I’m just not going to do business with them for sure now
Hello does this apply to 4x4 transmissions as well?
Yes
Yes 2WD & 4WD Identical Process, The Only Difference Is The 4WD Applications Will Have A Shaft Obstructing Access To The Front Band Nut & Linkage
So do I have to loosen it even if I am using a torque wrench?
hello does this only work for rwd I have a 99 5.9 4X4
I have a 97 dodge Dakota 318 v8 and have all forward gears no reverse can't get it to go in neutral I think it's the linkage but not sure any help would be great
Do you have park?
WDesign have the same problem I have park but drive still engaged not the linkage
1:18 you say 72 in/lbs OR 8.5 ft/lbs, but is this not actually either 72 in and 6 ft/lbs? or 102 in and 8.5 ft/lbs? not sure how you gain or lose 2.5 lbs vs the in version, (in lbs divided by 12 to get ft/lbs) is there something we should know concerning the torque in these transmissions that cause differet torque measurements to be off depending on the division of the torq distance?
Do you have to do front and rear band's at the same time? or can you just do the front by itself?
Dirk Diggler I'm curious as well.
So I’ve order the shift solenoid n pressure governor sensor as well as the spring from you guys. And I’m having the no kick-down shift. Any advise??
could be a couple things, check fluid level and adjust front band
if not viewed see below also;
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Quick question please! I need to order a filter and gasket for my 97 Dakota 5.2. But when i went to your website to order, it stated for 98 and up! Where's the filter and gasket for my 97 44re?
I have a question for you bud how do you know when your band needs adjustment I have a 98 Jeep grand Cherokee and if it sits over the weekend I put it in reverse and it doesn’t seem to want to go into reverse all the way and like it slipped and then it’s fine after the second engagement I’m thinking about adjusting the band
72 inch lbs = 6 foot lbs > not 8 1/2 you said ....
Correct; but it's pound-inch, and pound-foot, which are units of torque, or twisting force, as applied to a fastener; not inch-pound and foot-pound, which are units of work, as in the output of an engine. They're not interchangeable, but are often used (incorrectly) interchangeably.
Yes, I caught that too. i was like damn my simple math is way off. then seen that and was like ok Im getting dementia , lol
That looks like a lot of force for just over a few foot lbs. Also how is that 3 turns when you turn it 20 times? Other than that, good info...I hope.
Uh no expert here, but I did go to factory TorqueFlite school in the 70s. He did that right. All those turns to tighten it IS the WEAR you are tuning out of the system. But that did look like a lot of torque. 70 inlb isn't much.
Ashroyer86
Try an experiment with a nut driver like he was using and see how far you’re turning a bolt/nut with each twist of your wrist. It’s not much at all. I didn’t actually count how many turns of his wrist it took to get the three turns of the bolt, but just mimicking the motion of turning a nut driver as I’m typing this, it looks like it would take about 4-5 turns to achieve one full revolution. I’m assuming he was looking at some reference mark on the top of the nut driver handle that was just out of the camera’s view to tell when he was getting a full revolution.
72 inch lbs is 6ft. Lbs
what exactly does adjusting the band's do?
achillestyler In laymans terms. The bands hold the outside ofthe planetary gear set drums in a certain combinations to give required gear ratios. Adjusting the bands correctly ensures that the bands are holding the required drums properly so your ratios are good and consistent.
achillesstyler after working on these unit for years,i've learned that it is the timing for shifts and especially for part throttle downshifts,and adjusting reverse servo bnd adjustments are critical for old ladies,they don't like the reverse harsh at all so I use the 4 turn on reverse for them
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strattuner just need to chime in for a sec. You said harsh reverse, I have a 42re jeep I just did an shift improver kit on. I didn't touch any bands but now it slams in to reverse. Adjusting the band can calm that?
I might be able to help but I'm no transmission guy. I went to factory Torqueflite school in the 70s. The instructor was a field service tech, engineer, and Mopar drag racer. He was a guy who as he put it "...thinks Torqueflite." He wanted us to be able to "Think Torqueflite." He explained the shift kicks. If things are the same today you may not have any problems with that harsh shift. In fact what a shift kick does is speed up the shift to eliminate time wasting slip. The slip is there for granny. Granny doesn't like being kicked in the butt when the transmission shifts gears. So the engineers build in slip, or slush, or slop. The shift kit makes that go away. It improves shift performance and durability because there is less slip. It also makes the shifts more harsh. I have a ZJ with a stock 42re. It's a slush box that could use a shift kit.
If ny reverse is not functioning is it too late to try the reverse adjustment? 😬😬😬😬
Well it is different on a 77 AmC 904.. rear band is 41 in lbs and back off 7 turns ..
Hello Don - sorry for the late reply ; i wanted to follow up with you
I'm fairly certain if you set to 7 turns out that rear band has no hold at all not even a slip as its so terribly loose. Not sure where those specs came from ? You have me curious , 27 years doing this
2003dodge Dakota, in drivn no forwy moving , as 1355578 mils v6 engine trans is a 42re, replace fluidand filter will not move in driven , move in reverse
im rplace fluid and filer and gov solenoid, in drivn no forw move . please help
96 jeep grand cherokee loredo here. Hesitant shifting into second from first with a slow accelerate but shifts fine when I give it a little extra gas. 2 to 3 and 3 to 4 is a smooth transition. Would this apply to the front band?
Also when I let it coast, it acts as if it wants to shift, but at a dead stop in gear, it idles just fine
i have a 95 cherokee lorado with the 5.2/46rh it slips bad in reverse moves slow on flat ground but won't go up hill in reverse. i have tried to adjust the bands but still same problem ... i was wondering if i can replace just the reverse band and not rebuild the whole transmission? i think i can do everything but the plates in the planetary gears seem technical and crucial to get right.
Unfortunately the Rear / Low / Reverse Band is captured inside the unit, and as a ridid band there's no way to swap it out unless rebuild.
Worth Mention - We do stock a few longer band struts, which are the small flat apply plates.
If I recall they come in .010" & .015 longer than stock : length differences
Also If you have high miles on the truck or it's been ran with frequest towing hauling in town driving -
the original ones may be a bit worn out which combined with the band stretching may cause your issue.
** The first and main concern is - does the existing band still have a good lining clutch material on the strap ?>
the repair i mention may only be a band aid to help until a later rebuild can be done.
we don't have the struts on the site, but they are in stock andf can be requested within the order notes if ordering other items such as a filter kit.
Hope this helps some -
@@CascadeTransParts thanks for the reply .. 160,000 miles on it. i bought it as a project ($500), it's not my daily driver so i'm trying to be patient and just find a working replacement for a cheap price. maybe if i don't find one by spring i will attempt a rebuild. i don't have a garage just a carport.
Thanks for info on 3-4 spring. Mine shifts super fast on 3 and 4 when I am only running 35mph easy. I didn't realize how critical it is to adjust these transmissions at frequent intervals.
also be sure to check the wiring lead # 12445AK going to the output speed sensor and the sensor itself # 92436
If there's a premature 3-4 shift it's possible a minor short of ground out on that circuit
* this is where the signal goes to the computer for overdrive & upshifts
@@Quadman808 I sure appreciate the information!!!
For the band adjustment in the pan. It has a square headed bolt will a 12 point 8 mm socket fit the square 4 point bolt!??
sounds correct except i think it needs to be a 6 point socket
Mines in a 95 Dodge ram 1500 4x4 46rh so not sure if it's square or 6 point like in this video. But the video I watched before this had a square 4 point bolt. But it was a 46re I'm tearing my pan off today to put a lock up solenoid, new heavy duty 3-4 accumulator spring that I got for $2.77 at a trans parts store(: discontinued at the dealership sadly. And I'm throwing a new filter and fluid and going to adjust the bands while I'm in there. Hopefully I will be able to drive the truck for a couple months before it fully blows up and I put a 5 speed in it and do away with these shitty 4speed autos...
When you're done just be sure to fill and top the fluid off while it's running in neutral.
Also inspect the 3 wires going to the main harness connector for any possible shorts, repair as needed. There's no pigtail repair kit available so handle unplug with care.
Does you have hd or high performance governors for a 46re 4x4? And what is the name of that spring? I put those governors 2 years ago from mopar and fail again,
I didn't hear you mention the 2007 Dodge Dakota 4.7 V8 4x4. Does this transmission have the Band adjustment screws?
No.