I Wish I Knew This Before Buying The Ineos Grenadier...
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- Today I talk about 8 things that I wish I knew before I bought an Ineos Grenadier!
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Ben, your lawn looks like it was carpet bombed by a squadron of B-52’s 😊
LMAO
LMAO 🤣 😂
No just a girl dog
The same with facial hair and head.
😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
Oh boy, this should be fun. And it's called a "Grenadier"? 🤔😳 Best luck.👍
Ben went from looking like a young youtuber to stoner in months
I finished watching the video w a few conclusions..
Any Grenadier dealer or salesman that watches this will stab themselves in the eye w a screwdriver or jam a knife in their chest or both..
Yes they thought about insurance and financing.. you don't have to do any leg work or talk to the guy that insures tractors or hay bailing machines.
Second, this company has been doing an absolute slow walk into every market. There is zero mystery about these vehicles,a couple of years ago you could know about every part used down to the brand of lug nuts used. The price for these vehicles is in line or cheaper than many options. Look at Chevy or Ford and top end SUVs are near the price.. Range Rover. and Mercedes both sell something and there is parity pricing in all. And Tesla is an absolute disaster. Cars are in free fall and many lose more than @40% of price through catastrophic depreciation. But unlike Tesla all the vehicles in this class come w features that you can use on a test drive or the day you get your vehicle. Tesla still trying to do software updates so the car you bought will resemble the one that was promised.
And the other thing that sticks out is mentioning car companies that are out of business or near out . and saying . sending your car across country for service is ..a hassle..who wouldn't have thought that in the back and forth email exchange from sales representative.. where will I get service? Drive to the train station and load your car on a flat bed rail car
Is it me or is it an old land rover 110
The reason why they didnt go direct like Tesla or Rivian. The laws in US are antiquated and Electric car manufactuers were able to bypass the law of dealerships because the law was written for ICE. Ineos could have fought it but it would have taken 5 years and lot of cash to have goverment say yea no. So hence the dealer network was created.
So you, a car expert, dropped 80 k ona completely unknown, untested, First year vehicle with No dealer network? Maybe you should move into testing riding lawnmowers👌
Not with a yard that looks like that. Who would take his advice?
@@MercOne LMAO😂😂😂
Ouch!!! 😄
Maybe he doesn't know how to use a computer.
😂
I do wish Jim Ratcliffe well with the sale of this stunning vehicle.
Jim is the Brit who decided LANDROVER MADE A HUGE MISTAKE STOPPING PRODUCTION OF THE FAMOUS LANDROVER ......the only proper land rover.
So he said....ok I will build them and build them better.
Jims HQ in England in in my home town in Cheshire UK....I am not connected.....but I am a HUGE PROPPER LANDROVER FAN.
Bought mine new in 1975 when I was 23.....I still run that landrover today I am now 71.
So Ben.....I hope you get as much fun from your Grenadiers as I have from my 1975 Series 3 88" or SWB Landrover.
Nick a UK fan.
The guy who lives in Monaco and made the grenadier in France? That one?
My local dealer has about 20 Grenadiers sitting on the lot ready for customers. I wanted to dislike it, but checking it out IRL... they are awesome. For the price that dealers are asking for the new Toyota LandCruiser - with a four cylinder engine, street tires and 8 inches of ground clearance... you can buy a Grenadier. Crazy.
It might be worse than that. I have a Grenadier and a couple of Toyotas. The service guys at the Toyota dealership (who love the Grenadier and told me they want to service it on the DL) told me to get a First Edition LC and the mods for lift, wheels etc so it doesn’t absolutely suck, I would be “looking at $100k - easy.” That includes dealer markup - which there is none for the Grenadier. Absolutely gobsmacked.
What is more crazy is to put your trust in a brand you 🤔 don't know. Tell me how this works out for you in a couple years.
@@PatrickWilliamsI well not sure I can trust Toyota anymore seeing how badly they are building their SUVs now - failing twin turbo motor in the Tundra and Lexus, failing gear boxes in the Tacoma - which is shared with the Land Cruiser, failing front diiferentials if you try to off road on anything tough.
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@@husshardan3511in Europe (where they’re virtually all diesels with very strict emissions rules) Toyota are now having as many engine failures as every other manufacturer
They look super cool, i just have zero reason to trust them yet.
I'd say there are lot of reasons to trust them - and lots of good hardcore tests and reviews already on RUclips. Like the most recent one from Australia's overlanding legend Ronny Dahl.
People criticize all the different parts like engine, axles, etc. However, if you go to any car show you will see car owners that replace the stock engine with a 350 small block or LS and most will have a Ford 9 inch rear end. Car customizers have been replacing the inferior stock parts with parts of superior quality since the first car was modified. The Grenadier is a new vehicle that comes with the best parts available in Europe.
It's a bmw it's gonna have some issues
@@scottubzwhen Toyota got their hands on the bmw engine, they said the problem with the engine was the lack of sufficient cooling… this car has more than enough
Just buy a Toyota Landcruiser, and get on with your life.
Yes!👍🏻
Toyota has ruined the Land Cruiser
Have you got a spare £200k?
Get the Land Cruiser V6 Turbo, then you have an actual grenade!
@@cs0654feedback would suggest different 😉
Picked up my Grenadier up March 7th. Have 2K miles on it. It's an incredible vehicle. Nice as a daily driver, fantastic off road. Someone just took a similar if not identical stock Grenadier to yours and ran the Baja 1000 start to finish with zero mods. Same spec as my Grenadier and Shale Blue too, like mine and yours. Sir Jim Racliffe, who conceived the Grenadier because of his love affair with the original Land Rover 110's has done a great job. He went to Magna Steyr in Austria, (who engineered and builds the Mercedes G-Wagon), to engineer and design the Grenadier. It's built more robust then the
G-Wagon. This vehicle is designed to last 25 years. Jump on in, the waters fine.
Loooool hell no
25 years? My Land Rover Discovery is 30 years old. I suppose I have about another 25 or maybe 30 to live and I have no intention of replacing it.
zero reliability.. so meh.
The inexplicable thing is why they fitted the unproven BMW 6 pot instead of the commercially proven Mercedes or VW V6 units.
As Land Rover found out, BMW engines don’t last in heavy 4x4s.
My personal view is that the engines will become its Achilles heel
@@hughmarcus1that’s not unproven, it’s probably the most proven less than 8 year old bmw engines, and is the same exact design minus emissions worldwide, ie parts and support globally. They supposedly do the bmw diesel 6 turbo for European markets.
My late Father used to say never be the first to try out a new thing. Wait and see if anyone dies from it. Also Ben you are young enough not to remember how cars were ordered back in ancient times. Some packages were available but a lot of items were an individual option. And color choices were widely available. From what you say it seems like these folks are returning to that a bit.
Ignore the hate my man. It's fueled by jealousy. You've got your shit together, and some people can't handle it. Keep it up.
Haters always hating..
The biggest obstacle in my opinion is the distance to the dealership network if you do not live within a reasonable distance of a dealership.
Even with Toyota, dealers order spares from remote distribution centres. It has to be couriered in.
If you decide you want to upgrade the steering stabilizer, we're the place to go! We totally understand the choice fatigue, but find it fascinating seeing how creative people get! We look forward to seeing if you do any DIY mods.
Fix your landscaping dude. Neighbors must love you. lol
Why bother? He just keeps parking cars in the lawn anyway....
LMAO 🤣 😂😂
neighbors that make a big deal about other neighbors landscaping are the worst. mind your own business, live your own life, it's his property he can do what he wants.
He’s too busy spending half a million on different automobiles lol!
@@Justin-vg7ij nah, no one likes trashy neighbors
Dang, that lawn looks rough….ouch ! …but your reviews are always enjoyable
It's not a lawn it's a collection of weeds.
The video is confusing. The pros and cons don’t make sense. I ordered my vehicle, knowing fully well all the information that he considers to be confusing. I stopped watching it halfway through because the video made no sense.
This is the definition I had to look it up
A soldier equipped with grenades
I still think it's cool looking
It’s actually named after a London pub the ineos founder owns, and decided he was going to build a car
I thought about buying one......thought about a G wagen......thought about the New Landwanker....can't buy the Toyota 70 series in EU wankerland....then my wife (the truck was for her) saw an Isuzu D Max AT 35.......I said Nah!!! won't be good off road.....so I tested it against my lifted Wrangler Diesel Rubicon unlimited.....and it was as good??? so I tested it again and it was as good. I let her go for it hes specced a bed cover, sliding bed and a winch......Then I had a heart attack....the price for the D Max was not even 2/3rds of the price of this thing....The French car Genadier...does not bring jobs to UK and is not patriotic and a D Max AT 35 costs just over HALF what this thing costs...IT IS NOT THAT GOOD.
Was skeptical when you first purchased but since have seen other vids on it where they were going through the under carriage and that is a high quality piece of kit. Good on you. 👍
Definitely a great car for having fun and making content (glad you bought it) but I wouldn’t use it as a daily
I like it , it looks cool and has gotten many good reviews. But to me it’s like the new Toyotas there going to have issues when they first come out with a new platform. Wait a year or two then revisit it and see how it’s doing . I hope it works out for both companies. Cant wait to see your continued reviews on it , thanks for sharing.
In Europe, for alleged pedestrian safety reasons, Alfa Romeo is no longer allowed to fit an off centre front licence plate. Yet you can drive around with a winch on the front. What a weird world we live in.
@@robbrownfield7677 you need to do a bit more research. European Union General Safety Regulations.
these things are super cool and I know magna is a great UK off road company. They use alot of the parts magna makes over seas to go wheelin and stuff. Also the engine has a great track record
having a Germqn drivetrain is a positive
Magna Steyr is an austrian company that was highly involved in manufacturing many great cars + parts (Mercedes G wagon for example) so they have a great reputation and build quality. It was a smart move by Ineos to gather a lot of high quality parts from the market for the grenadier instead of trying to build own solutions like a whole new engine or drive train.
You are both wrong, MAGNA are Canadian,...do your research Guys, I didbefore I bought my Toyota Supra, which also build
@@robertnowak7098 I can tell your a women
Magna is a Canadian based company with plants worldwide gentleman named Frank Stronach started the manufacturing company years ago specializing in car parts and now cars themselves, thanks for the elucidation I did not know they made the Grenadier
I believe Magna Steyr is Austrian
@@toberwine Actually Magna Steyr helped with the engineering., Ineos manufactures the Grenadier at a converted Mercedes Factory in Hambach France.
Hey mate you should check out Ronnie Dahl review of the Ineos. No one tests like him. He even hit a kangaroo in his Ineos lol take care happy 4x4 travels
Having to drive 60 minutes to a nearest dealer is no biggie. The SUV is special and so there's not going to be a dealer on every street corner.
I don’t care what your commentators say. That’s a nice vehicle if you got the money laying around why not. It looks solid and will be tons of fun on the trail
Never heard of a dealer charging to install a factory ordered part, is this a US thing?
You make some great points! I like these vehicles, but I'd like to see how they age and what kind of maintenance issues they will have before committing to one. I like the color on that one.
Great info, thanks Ben.
You need to do a search for "common problems with the BMW B-58 engine" and see what could be in your future.
The green and the gray are the nicest colors in my opinion.
Seen in person. The blue that TFL has is my favourite
I test drove them in May in Nantucket. Awesome. I hope to get one asap
So for those that are giving him hate. You guys suck. He’s literally giving insight into a small world of this ownership. With that said, he did a great job. If you have a problem with the vehicle, take that up with yourselves. I’ll be honest, I didn’t like the INEOS two years ago, but it’s grown on me since. Because there will be less on the road, I would choose it over a new Land Cruiser, especially now with Toyota’s new car reliability in question. Plus the new Land Cruiser is not a looker (to me).
Did Kipchoge approve this 😂😅 if so, it will break world records
1. Should have worked out a deal with BMW stores.
2. The marketing and launch for the Grenadier was terrible. I challenged them on this myself.
3. Ineos communication was poor with the US order holders.
4. You picked the right color. I actually ordered this color with a white roof.
5. Insurance in my market was fine.
6. Cup holders and speedo and head unit visibility terrible.
7. I walked on my order because of a terrible lease deal. I lease for biz. Then last month they come out with a lease. 🤬
8. Over a hundred sitting on the dealer lot in my market.
9. The N.A. CEO has just resigned for personal reasons. He wasn’t connected with the order holders and feedback.
10. It’s a great product in many ways, but initial execution in the USA has severely lacked.
JMO ..
Sad, because we would have purchased 2 in my family. My lease was up and I wasn’t paying G wagon $$ for a totally unproven rig. Sorry .. let’s see where resell is in two years.
I backed out because I drove it and I found the machine to be underpowered and the steering is too much work. Both are common reactions since they began deliveries.There is a lot to like about the machine and the price is fair.
💋.... apparently, the service & parts is exorbitant....👠
So your goal now is just buy very expensive poorly Hipsters cars - then film them that your the victim??? Boring and mentally draining..
I don’t like that they only get 10 mpg otherwise I would consider one. Nice looking but make no sense when you can get a Rubicon
😂
Trouble is they look like an old landrover.
🤣😂🤣 Really?!
As if this was what it was all about!🤣😂🤣
What a hideous looking copy of the old Land Rover defender. Why would anyone in their right mind buy one of these. The old Land Rover defender was good in its day for farmers and people off roading . Times change that’s why we have a new defender that is both great on road and off road with an amazing NEW shape. Why would we want to buy an old looking copy
Nearest dealer for me is 1.5hr away. But I still want one. Since it's a BMW dealer, couldn't you just bring it to a euro shop for service?
It's a G wagon and a classic Defender at the same time for the price of a Land Cruiser.
Love everything except the infotainment system and back up camera quality is horrible.
You had the money ,You hadnt done your homework , Stop Whinging ,Shut Up & get on with it .Its always Mercans . who seem to Moan
Its British, what on earth did you expect? Sincerely, an English person.
Don’t buy one it’s a commercial vehicle
Restriction applies so you have to drive it as you were a van they don’t tell you this
Tax is different as well
lol, got rich from RUclips and now complaining
It’s a BMW parts catalogue. I really like it as a future vehicle. Someone else needed to go first.
Please don’t comment if you don’t know what you’re talking about !. The engines are BMW, errr I don’t think that’s a bmw parts bin !
Personally I wouldn’t go throwing any money at it till you get some miles on it to prove it’s going to be reliable.
looks stunning, very much like the old defender. Hope they expand their dealerships.
Idios grenadier. A BMW engine is reliable? They have a built in oil absorbing pad on the cover underneath the engine so you don’t see the oil leaks before your warranty is up.
Dude what are you doing for the financial turn around? I want a grenedier but as a cop that’s not in my salary
Love the car, I’m buying one next week, test drove it and tested it, much much better than my g class and my Landrover defender, this car will make u understand the true meaning of a classic monster off-roader, sexy and exotic and eye catching wowwwww ❤
Great video and a sweet looking truck ! Love the color and the options you ended up with . Would love one and maybe some day , Safe travels in it and love your channel .
I’m allergic to fresh cut grass too, gives me bad asthma and makes my entire face welt and swell lol
Wear a mask
Idk why there's a bunch of hate comments, but i appreciate you taking a risk that not only you enjoy but us the viewers as well
bet its juce when someone says hey that looks like a defender. BMW engines are trash.
I seriously don’t like the location of the snorkel looks like the first Offroad bush or tree your going to rip it off
One rich guys ego project. The Delorean of 4X4’s.?
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I wear a dust mask and goggles when I mow... I look ridiculous but it saves me days of sneezing and itchy eyes.
Good idea
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Thank you for this great information!
Hall Sandra Martinez Patricia Miller Linda
Too configurable? Dumbest comment ever.
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Ben, I know a PPF guy, local... reach out.
no swing bars no money for it... period.
Made in France. What else do you need to know?
It's a common BMW motor just take it to a shop
The ridgeline in the background will outlast that grenadier 10 times over.
Mustbe nice to have 80k in Cash….l
Not interested enough to sit through it. Tapping out
You cutting grass or baking hay?
I’m allergic to grass, it’s annoying.
@BenHardyCars
The undercarriage is phenomenal. Good luck with the Ineos. Looks great.
M57 should have been your choice
Take care of your landscaping dude jesus
Looks like your promotional video 😊
Can’t be any worse than a Land Rover
If they ever add driver gauges i would consider one.
Bmw design components to go 120000km. This is a light duty vehicle dressed up with clown stuff😂
I M O A really handsome vehicle.
this suv would had been perfect if they used the Toyota 4.6L V-8 and transmission
Yup, the Toyota V6 with a supercharger, which they use in the Lotus Emira. I am sure they could tune it to about 300hp and 280 tq. It is a the “Camry” engine which has been proven to be very reliable.
The price is too hard to justify
Allergic to grass? Where? 😂
Mow your grass dude surprised your neighbors are not telling you
That shit is patchy!, not sure it is actually grass anymore
Bmw engine….run away!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I really like that "thing" and the color is fantastic....Cheers Ben!
Why do you need such a vehicle?
1. Should have worked out a deal with BMW stores.
2. The marketing and launch for the Grenadier was terrible. I challenged them on this myself.
3. Ineos communication was poor with the US order holders.
4. You picked the right color. I actually ordered this color with a white roof.
5. Insurance in my market was fine.
6. Cup holders and speedo and head unit visibility terrible.
7. I walked on my order because of a terrible lease deal. I lease for biz. Then last month they come out with a lease. 🤬
8. Over a hundred sitting on the dealer lot in my market.
9. The N.A. CEO has just resigned for personal reasons. He wasn’t connected with the order holders and feedback.
10. It’s a great product in many ways, but initial execution in the USA has severely lacked.
JMO ..
Sad, because we would have purchased 2 in my family. My lease was up and I wasn’t paying G wagon $$ for a totally unproven rig. Sorry .. let’s see where resell is in two years.
This is beginning to be like The Young and the Restless.😬
Land Rover 110 rip off