My local dealer has about 20 Grenadiers sitting on the lot ready for customers. I wanted to dislike it, but checking it out IRL... they are awesome. For the price that dealers are asking for the new Toyota LandCruiser - with a four cylinder engine, street tires and 8 inches of ground clearance... you can buy a Grenadier. Crazy.
It might be worse than that. I have a Grenadier and a couple of Toyotas. The service guys at the Toyota dealership (who love the Grenadier and told me they want to service it on the DL) told me to get a First Edition LC and the mods for lift, wheels etc so it doesn’t absolutely suck, I would be “looking at $100k - easy.” That includes dealer markup - which there is none for the Grenadier. Absolutely gobsmacked.
@@PatrickWilliamsI well not sure I can trust Toyota anymore seeing how badly they are building their SUVs now - failing twin turbo motor in the Tundra and Lexus, failing gear boxes in the Tacoma - which is shared with the Land Cruiser, failing front diiferentials if you try to off road on anything tough.
@@husshardan3511in Europe (where they’re virtually all diesels with very strict emissions rules) Toyota are now having as many engine failures as every other manufacturer
Picked up my Grenadier up March 7th. Have 2K miles on it. It's an incredible vehicle. Nice as a daily driver, fantastic off road. Someone just took a similar if not identical stock Grenadier to yours and ran the Baja 1000 start to finish with zero mods. Same spec as my Grenadier and Shale Blue too, like mine and yours. Sir Jim Racliffe, who conceived the Grenadier because of his love affair with the original Land Rover 110's has done a great job. He went to Magna Steyr in Austria, (who engineered and builds the Mercedes G-Wagon), to engineer and design the Grenadier. It's built more robust then the G-Wagon. This vehicle is designed to last 25 years. Jump on in, the waters fine.
The inexplicable thing is why they fitted the unproven BMW 6 pot instead of the commercially proven Mercedes or VW V6 units. As Land Rover found out, BMW engines don’t last in heavy 4x4s. My personal view is that the engines will become its Achilles heel
@@hughmarcus1that’s not unproven, it’s probably the most proven less than 8 year old bmw engines, and is the same exact design minus emissions worldwide, ie parts and support globally. They supposedly do the bmw diesel 6 turbo for European markets.
I do wish Jim Ratcliffe well with the sale of this stunning vehicle. Jim is the Brit who decided LANDROVER MADE A HUGE MISTAKE STOPPING PRODUCTION OF THE FAMOUS LANDROVER ......the only proper land rover. So he said....ok I will build them and build them better. Jims HQ in England in in my home town in Cheshire UK....I am not connected.....but I am a HUGE PROPPER LANDROVER FAN. Bought mine new in 1975 when I was 23.....I still run that landrover today I am now 71. So Ben.....I hope you get as much fun from your Grenadiers as I have from my 1975 Series 3 88" or SWB Landrover. Nick a UK fan.
The reason why they didnt go direct like Tesla or Rivian. The laws in US are antiquated and Electric car manufactuers were able to bypass the law of dealerships because the law was written for ICE. Ineos could have fought it but it would have taken 5 years and lot of cash to have goverment say yea no. So hence the dealer network was created.
Was skeptical when you first purchased but since have seen other vids on it where they were going through the under carriage and that is a high quality piece of kit. Good on you. 👍
If you decide you want to upgrade the steering stabilizer, we're the place to go! We totally understand the choice fatigue, but find it fascinating seeing how creative people get! We look forward to seeing if you do any DIY mods.
I love those things! My only hurdle is spending that much money and having to settle for an automatic transmission. That was a huge mistake. Hopefully they'll fix that in the future. Great video!
@nickgood8166 No, my friend. I grew up on Jeeps in the California desert in the 70's and 80's. Automatics might be easier for the average layman but if you're doing real off roading and you know what you're doing, manual is the only way to go. But to be honest, for that kind of money, I'd be pretty reluctant to beat on such a nice vehicle anyway.
Magna is a Canadian based company with plants worldwide gentleman named Frank Stronach started the manufacturing company years ago specializing in car parts and now cars themselves, thanks for the elucidation I did not know they made the Grenadier
I don’t care what your commentators say. That’s a nice vehicle if you got the money laying around why not. It looks solid and will be tons of fun on the trail
My late Father used to say never be the first to try out a new thing. Wait and see if anyone dies from it. Also Ben you are young enough not to remember how cars were ordered back in ancient times. Some packages were available but a lot of items were an individual option. And color choices were widely available. From what you say it seems like these folks are returning to that a bit.
Hey Ben you got a good color the photos do it no justice but I just recently went to a dealer and saw that color in person and it really pops, it is a very cool vehicle that you have an extremely capable I can see why you purchased it I really like it👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Love the car, I’m buying one next week, test drove it and tested it, much much better than my g class and my Landrover defender, this car will make u understand the true meaning of a classic monster off-roader, sexy and exotic and eye catching wowwwww ❤
You make some great points! I like these vehicles, but I'd like to see how they age and what kind of maintenance issues they will have before committing to one. I like the color on that one.
I'd say there are lot of reasons to trust them - and lots of good hardcore tests and reviews already on RUclips. Like the most recent one from Australia's overlanding legend Ronny Dahl.
People criticize all the different parts like engine, axles, etc. However, if you go to any car show you will see car owners that replace the stock engine with a 350 small block or LS and most will have a Ford 9 inch rear end. Car customizers have been replacing the inferior stock parts with parts of superior quality since the first car was modified. The Grenadier is a new vehicle that comes with the best parts available in Europe.
@@scottubzwhen Toyota got their hands on the bmw engine, they said the problem with the engine was the lack of sufficient cooling… this car has more than enough
So you, a car expert, dropped 80 k ona completely unknown, untested, First year vehicle with No dealer network? Maybe you should move into testing riding lawnmowers👌
these things are super cool and I know magna is a great UK off road company. They use alot of the parts magna makes over seas to go wheelin and stuff. Also the engine has a great track record
Magna Steyr is an austrian company that was highly involved in manufacturing many great cars + parts (Mercedes G wagon for example) so they have a great reputation and build quality. It was a smart move by Ineos to gather a lot of high quality parts from the market for the grenadier instead of trying to build own solutions like a whole new engine or drive train.
I think they look so cool, saw my first one in Blacksburg Virginia, I thought someone really took care of that old Land Rover. if I were rich definitely would get one, but if the Jimny was available here I’d get it today! poor man’s G Wagon, plus we had a old Suzuki Sidekick and it had everything you needed and nothing else, we called it our little goat!
I like it , it looks cool and has gotten many good reviews. But to me it’s like the new Toyotas there going to have issues when they first come out with a new platform. Wait a year or two then revisit it and see how it’s doing . I hope it works out for both companies. Cant wait to see your continued reviews on it , thanks for sharing.
Great video and a sweet looking truck ! Love the color and the options you ended up with . Would love one and maybe some day , Safe travels in it and love your channel .
Hey mate you should check out Ronnie Dahl review of the Ineos. No one tests like him. He even hit a kangaroo in his Ineos lol take care happy 4x4 travels
I learned my lesson when I got a brand new 1999 Harley Davidson. It had the new 88ci engine. I was a genie pig. There were so many issues. I never buy new versions for major purchases.
The looks of the vehicle and the off-road features are awesome! For those that are interested, please comment on #1. The completely different feel in the steering characteristics (Not self-centering and a lot of play in the wheel to affect vehicle steering. Great for rough conditions off-road. Strange and unnatural for normal highway driving). #2. No lumbar seat adjustment (Even in the highest trim levels). #3. The brake and accelerator pedals are pushed far left of normal placement (Due to the large center console hump). While depressing the brake pedal with your right foot in a normal brake placement position, your foot rides on the far right edge of the large brake pedal. -I wanted to love everything about this vehicle. Please evaluate these things before you purchase. A 10-minute test drive will confirm or deny my observations. Good Luck!
Likely a better bet than a G-Wagon. Here in South Africa parts availability and dealer network are a major issue, until it gets market penetration. I'm, as yet, not convinced that's going to happen. Cost and cost of ownership is high. Dependability is, as yet, unknown. The Grenadier is a risky bet that wiIl appeal to some with high disposable income prepared to take that on. Meantime, the Hilux and Land Cruiser are solid 'no brainer' bets.
This thing about adding is only in the usa in europe and the uk what every you order is what you get and the price you pay even if it fitted at dealer if your order it at time of purchase its included in the price you pay dealer cannot charge for fitment of items purchased with your car order.
Hey Ben - I am about to pick up my Grenadier from West Valley dealership. I appreciate the video, especially insurance information. I wonder if you had the chance to take it off road. Have you installed 3rd party upgrades?
Just wondering if you can get the front and rear bumpers replaced with steel bars from the factory? Over here in Australia ARB is a company that specialises in aftermarket 4WD equipment and is very popular
I backed out because I drove it and I found the machine to be underpowered and the steering is too much work. Both are common reactions since they began deliveries.There is a lot to like about the machine and the price is fair.
Beautiful car and paying cash for cars makes all the difference. Back in the day, I drove a lot of beaters because I didn't have the $$ to buy new. Eventually worked my finances up to being able to buy new outright. And I have been there ever since. Like this car, I wonder if the new Land Cruiser will be a category killer. I'm kind of expecting that, but we will see. 3 reasons I would choose the new Land Cruiser. 1. Toyota quality. 2. Available parts and service network. 3. Afftermarket parts. New Land Cruiser will have huge aftermarket support no doubt.
Saw a vid on these and once they mentioned BMW motor turned me off. Not that I could afford it anyway. But if it is BMW. that screams high cost maintenance and fixing something that breaks down. Other than that a sweet looking vehicle.
In Europe, for alleged pedestrian safety reasons, Alfa Romeo is no longer allowed to fit an off centre front licence plate. Yet you can drive around with a winch on the front. What a weird world we live in.
I have no idea how the company is doing but I hope it's successful. While it's still crazy expensive for the average buyer, the idea behind creating it was a good one. Land Rover was a fool to abandon their roots just to concentrate entirely on luxury junk.
Never buy until the third year of production on any car. Worked for Saab for ten years. First year production - numerous recalls. Second year production - not so many, but some. Third year production - problems fixed and loads of parts bin extras thrown in for free. Just wait it out.
ANY turbo engine by definition is under stress compared to a NA engine. The concern is how much stress are you willing to live with as you contemplate mods or a tune.
For the USA market, a GM LS 5.3 and 4L80 would make it more appealing and dirtcheap to maintain for decades. BMW/ ZF drivetrain and Bosch components is a soon endless money-pit.
Wrong. Plus don't act like those ls haven't had bearing issues or valve train issues. A bullet proof ls is a myth. The b58 has been super reliable and detuned
Would have preferred the BMW I6 B57 turbodiesel but the aftertreatment equipment on those kills the reliability. Just bought a MY23 Ram Rebel 2500 HD with the Cummins last September, but will keep my eyes open for more on these as it comes out.
If they had a two-door option with a removable top like the original Defender, it would appeal more to me than it already is. Especially if they made a more base model with more simple materials. It looks great, though!
Had mine 6 months I dont like the steering but have gotten use to it. Kinda weird. I like mine overall. I live outside nashville and dealer is in atlanta so kinda a pain. Had a problem With blower on ac had to drive down took most of day to fix. But other than that its been fine
Just can’t get over the placement of the drivers speedo … in the middle of the the dash is a let down. Every time I look at the speedo I’m looking down away from the rd, if only they had a HUD it would be ok. Cheers from Oz 🇦🇺
I'm very curious to see the Grenadier Vs. Toyota Land Cruiser videos that you and others will do. The LC looks to have a more complicated engine and tranny. But it's more powerful and efficient along with Toyota reliability. But its still a turbo. Where the Ineos is old school straight 6. Which will be more reliable? Wheelbases are nearly identical. A 4x4 competition will be needed. I will also be interested in seeing which have the most articulation. I wanted a Grenadier at first but the LC is looking better on paper.
I purchased a high end GM truck recently. The dealer service related to any type of warranty issue has been horrible. I don't understand how they can get away with how they do business.
In my area GM dealers are the best with regards to warranty service. Always handle everything easily no questions asked. I think it varies greatly by your local dealer. Some are great and some suck.
Spend your time shop around for best deal on the car your want and insurance you want , it can save your mega dollars people , and always ask for a better deal , it wont be offered by seller so insist on better price or walk away , walk away works well if youve got cash or cheque book on you , be organised and never show your happy until youve got a better deal or extras chucked in that cost big money , floor mats and light covers are cheap ask for more and a full tank of fuel to seal the deal😊 dont be scared to nag
Super customisable means more and more parts, subassemblies, and devices with unproven quality and reliability and overall a vehicle with high complexity. The result is more maintenance and money upfront and down the road.
99% of the customised items are bolt on. They do not affect any sub assemblies. Even the winch just bolts onto a pre-installed fitting plate that comes with the vehicle whether you spec a winch or not. The whole concept of the vehicle is “simple” and it is.
So for those that are giving him hate. You guys suck. He’s literally giving insight into a small world of this ownership. With that said, he did a great job. If you have a problem with the vehicle, take that up with yourselves. I’ll be honest, I didn’t like the INEOS two years ago, but it’s grown on me since. Because there will be less on the road, I would choose it over a new Land Cruiser, especially now with Toyota’s new car reliability in question. Plus the new Land Cruiser is not a looker (to me).
neighbors that make a big deal about other neighbors landscaping are the worst. mind your own business, live your own life, it's his property he can do what he wants.
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My local dealer has about 20 Grenadiers sitting on the lot ready for customers. I wanted to dislike it, but checking it out IRL... they are awesome. For the price that dealers are asking for the new Toyota LandCruiser - with a four cylinder engine, street tires and 8 inches of ground clearance... you can buy a Grenadier. Crazy.
It might be worse than that. I have a Grenadier and a couple of Toyotas. The service guys at the Toyota dealership (who love the Grenadier and told me they want to service it on the DL) told me to get a First Edition LC and the mods for lift, wheels etc so it doesn’t absolutely suck, I would be “looking at $100k - easy.” That includes dealer markup - which there is none for the Grenadier. Absolutely gobsmacked.
What is more crazy is to put your trust in a brand you 🤔 don't know. Tell me how this works out for you in a couple years.
@@PatrickWilliamsI well not sure I can trust Toyota anymore seeing how badly they are building their SUVs now - failing twin turbo motor in the Tundra and Lexus, failing gear boxes in the Tacoma - which is shared with the Land Cruiser, failing front diiferentials if you try to off road on anything tough.
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@@husshardan3511in Europe (where they’re virtually all diesels with very strict emissions rules) Toyota are now having as many engine failures as every other manufacturer
Picked up my Grenadier up March 7th. Have 2K miles on it. It's an incredible vehicle. Nice as a daily driver, fantastic off road. Someone just took a similar if not identical stock Grenadier to yours and ran the Baja 1000 start to finish with zero mods. Same spec as my Grenadier and Shale Blue too, like mine and yours. Sir Jim Racliffe, who conceived the Grenadier because of his love affair with the original Land Rover 110's has done a great job. He went to Magna Steyr in Austria, (who engineered and builds the Mercedes G-Wagon), to engineer and design the Grenadier. It's built more robust then the
G-Wagon. This vehicle is designed to last 25 years. Jump on in, the waters fine.
Loooool hell no
25 years? My Land Rover Discovery is 30 years old. I suppose I have about another 25 or maybe 30 to live and I have no intention of replacing it.
zero reliability.. so meh.
The inexplicable thing is why they fitted the unproven BMW 6 pot instead of the commercially proven Mercedes or VW V6 units.
As Land Rover found out, BMW engines don’t last in heavy 4x4s.
My personal view is that the engines will become its Achilles heel
@@hughmarcus1that’s not unproven, it’s probably the most proven less than 8 year old bmw engines, and is the same exact design minus emissions worldwide, ie parts and support globally. They supposedly do the bmw diesel 6 turbo for European markets.
I do wish Jim Ratcliffe well with the sale of this stunning vehicle.
Jim is the Brit who decided LANDROVER MADE A HUGE MISTAKE STOPPING PRODUCTION OF THE FAMOUS LANDROVER ......the only proper land rover.
So he said....ok I will build them and build them better.
Jims HQ in England in in my home town in Cheshire UK....I am not connected.....but I am a HUGE PROPPER LANDROVER FAN.
Bought mine new in 1975 when I was 23.....I still run that landrover today I am now 71.
So Ben.....I hope you get as much fun from your Grenadiers as I have from my 1975 Series 3 88" or SWB Landrover.
Nick a UK fan.
The guy who lives in Monaco and made the grenadier in France? That one?
Idk why there's a bunch of hate comments, but i appreciate you taking a risk that not only you enjoy but us the viewers as well
The reason why they didnt go direct like Tesla or Rivian. The laws in US are antiquated and Electric car manufactuers were able to bypass the law of dealerships because the law was written for ICE. Ineos could have fought it but it would have taken 5 years and lot of cash to have goverment say yea no. So hence the dealer network was created.
Was skeptical when you first purchased but since have seen other vids on it where they were going through the under carriage and that is a high quality piece of kit. Good on you. 👍
If you decide you want to upgrade the steering stabilizer, we're the place to go! We totally understand the choice fatigue, but find it fascinating seeing how creative people get! We look forward to seeing if you do any DIY mods.
Ignore the hate my man. It's fueled by jealousy. You've got your shit together, and some people can't handle it. Keep it up.
Haters always hating..
Ben, your lawn looks like it was carpet bombed by a squadron of B-52’s 😊
LMAO
LMAO 🤣 😂
No just a girl dog
The same with facial hair and head.
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And listen to the door close! Sounds so good! And comes in RED
The biggest obstacle in my opinion is the distance to the dealership network if you do not live within a reasonable distance of a dealership.
Even with Toyota, dealers order spares from remote distribution centres. It has to be couriered in.
I love those things! My only hurdle is spending that much money and having to settle for an automatic transmission. That was a huge mistake. Hopefully they'll fix that in the future. Great video!
Automatics are a no brainer off road.
@nickgood8166 No, my friend. I grew up on Jeeps in the California desert in the 70's and 80's. Automatics might be easier for the average layman but if you're doing real off roading and you know what you're doing, manual is the only way to go. But to be honest, for that kind of money, I'd be pretty reluctant to beat on such a nice vehicle anyway.
Magna is a Canadian based company with plants worldwide gentleman named Frank Stronach started the manufacturing company years ago specializing in car parts and now cars themselves, thanks for the elucidation I did not know they made the Grenadier
I believe Magna Steyr is Austrian
@@toberwine Actually Magna Steyr helped with the engineering., Ineos manufactures the Grenadier at a converted Mercedes Factory in Hambach France.
I don’t care what your commentators say. That’s a nice vehicle if you got the money laying around why not. It looks solid and will be tons of fun on the trail
I test drove them in May in Nantucket. Awesome. I hope to get one asap
My late Father used to say never be the first to try out a new thing. Wait and see if anyone dies from it. Also Ben you are young enough not to remember how cars were ordered back in ancient times. Some packages were available but a lot of items were an individual option. And color choices were widely available. From what you say it seems like these folks are returning to that a bit.
Hey Ben you got a good color the photos do it no justice but I just recently went to a dealer and saw that color in person and it really pops, it is a very cool vehicle that you have an extremely capable I can see why you purchased it I really like it👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Love the car, I’m buying one next week, test drove it and tested it, much much better than my g class and my Landrover defender, this car will make u understand the true meaning of a classic monster off-roader, sexy and exotic and eye catching wowwwww ❤
Let me know if more reliable than Land Rover. Thanks! Considering one
They ARE sexy!! I'm a woman and I want one sooo bad!!
You make some great points! I like these vehicles, but I'd like to see how they age and what kind of maintenance issues they will have before committing to one. I like the color on that one.
They look super cool, i just have zero reason to trust them yet.
I'd say there are lot of reasons to trust them - and lots of good hardcore tests and reviews already on RUclips. Like the most recent one from Australia's overlanding legend Ronny Dahl.
People criticize all the different parts like engine, axles, etc. However, if you go to any car show you will see car owners that replace the stock engine with a 350 small block or LS and most will have a Ford 9 inch rear end. Car customizers have been replacing the inferior stock parts with parts of superior quality since the first car was modified. The Grenadier is a new vehicle that comes with the best parts available in Europe.
It's a bmw it's gonna have some issues
@@scottubzwhen Toyota got their hands on the bmw engine, they said the problem with the engine was the lack of sufficient cooling… this car has more than enough
@@jackz4149You do realize that Toyota is not a benchmark for reliability anymore. Right? Lots of issues and recalls with their newer models.
So you, a car expert, dropped 80 k ona completely unknown, untested, First year vehicle with No dealer network? Maybe you should move into testing riding lawnmowers👌
Not with a yard that looks like that. Who would take his advice?
@@MercOne LMAO😂😂😂
Ouch!!! 😄
Maybe he doesn't know how to use a computer.
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You need to do a search for "common problems with the BMW B-58 engine" and see what could be in your future.
Definitely a great car for having fun and making content (glad you bought it) but I wouldn’t use it as a daily
these things are super cool and I know magna is a great UK off road company. They use alot of the parts magna makes over seas to go wheelin and stuff. Also the engine has a great track record
having a Germqn drivetrain is a positive
Magna Steyr is an austrian company that was highly involved in manufacturing many great cars + parts (Mercedes G wagon for example) so they have a great reputation and build quality. It was a smart move by Ineos to gather a lot of high quality parts from the market for the grenadier instead of trying to build own solutions like a whole new engine or drive train.
You are both wrong, MAGNA are Canadian,...do your research Guys, I didbefore I bought my Toyota Supra, which also build
@@robertnowak7098 I can tell your a women
I think they look so cool, saw my first one in Blacksburg Virginia, I thought someone really took care of that old Land Rover. if I were rich definitely would get one, but if the Jimny was available here I’d get it today! poor man’s G Wagon, plus we had a old Suzuki Sidekick and it had everything you needed and nothing else, we called it our little goat!
I like it , it looks cool and has gotten many good reviews. But to me it’s like the new Toyotas there going to have issues when they first come out with a new platform. Wait a year or two then revisit it and see how it’s doing . I hope it works out for both companies. Cant wait to see your continued reviews on it , thanks for sharing.
The green and the gray are the nicest colors in my opinion.
Seen in person. The blue that TFL has is my favourite
agreed, I love the green 😍
Great video and a sweet looking truck ! Love the color and the options you ended up with . Would love one and maybe some day , Safe travels in it and love your channel .
looks stunning, very much like the old defender. Hope they expand their dealerships.
Hey mate you should check out Ronnie Dahl review of the Ineos. No one tests like him. He even hit a kangaroo in his Ineos lol take care happy 4x4 travels
I learned my lesson when I got a brand new 1999 Harley Davidson. It had the new 88ci engine. I was a genie pig. There were so many issues. I never buy new versions for major purchases.
Dang, that lawn looks rough….ouch ! …but your reviews are always enjoyable
It's not a lawn it's a collection of weeds.
The looks of the vehicle and the off-road features are awesome! For those that are interested, please comment on #1. The completely different feel in the steering characteristics (Not self-centering and a lot of play in the wheel to affect vehicle steering. Great for rough conditions off-road. Strange and unnatural for normal highway driving). #2. No lumbar seat adjustment (Even in the highest trim levels). #3. The brake and accelerator pedals are pushed far left of normal placement (Due to the large center console hump). While depressing the brake pedal with your right foot in a normal brake placement position, your foot rides on the far right edge of the large brake pedal.
-I wanted to love everything about this vehicle. Please evaluate these things before you purchase. A 10-minute test drive will confirm or deny my observations.
Good Luck!
Likely a better bet than a G-Wagon.
Here in South Africa parts availability and dealer network are a major issue, until it gets market penetration. I'm, as yet, not convinced that's going to happen.
Cost and cost of ownership is high. Dependability is, as yet, unknown.
The Grenadier is a risky bet that wiIl appeal to some with high disposable income prepared to take that on. Meantime, the Hilux and Land Cruiser are solid 'no brainer' bets.
The options , both factory fitted and dealer supplied/fitted are clearly defined in the configurator.
UK version also offered in BMW 3.0 diesel. 245bhp with more torque than the B58. Same price here too.
This thing about adding is only in the usa in europe and the uk what every you order is what you get and the price you pay even if it fitted at dealer if your order it at time of purchase its included in the price you pay dealer cannot charge for fitment of items purchased with your car order.
Hey Ben - I am about to pick up my Grenadier from West Valley dealership. I appreciate the video, especially insurance information. I wonder if you had the chance to take it off road. Have you installed 3rd party upgrades?
i love how the cat just comes strolling in and sniffing the car 😂😂
This is the definition I had to look it up
A soldier equipped with grenades
I still think it's cool looking
It’s actually named after a London pub the ineos founder owns, and decided he was going to build a car
If they ever add driver gauges i would consider one.
Great info, thanks Ben.
Just wondering if you can get the front and rear bumpers replaced with steel bars from the factory?
Over here in Australia ARB is a company that specialises in aftermarket 4WD equipment and is very popular
I was going to get one.I stopped when i found out it's a BMW B58 engine inside.
In the 1960's the options were carpeting, floor mats ,radio, power windows, white sidewall tires...
I backed out because I drove it and I found the machine to be underpowered and the steering is too much work. Both are common reactions since they began deliveries.There is a lot to like about the machine and the price is fair.
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The undercarriage is phenomenal. Good luck with the Ineos. Looks great.
I really like that "thing" and the color is fantastic....Cheers Ben!
Never heard of a dealer charging to install a factory ordered part, is this a US thing?
Are you surprised? These people probably get charged 10k to get a tooth pulled. 😅
Thanks, Ben. Good information. I enjoy your videos MUCH more when you leave the dealers parking lot. Thanks!
My next vehicle!! 😊
Nice looking unit and color choices inside too , not bad for a dinosaur vintage car,
Oh boy, this should be fun. And it's called a "Grenadier"? 🤔😳 Best luck.👍
The parts selection is great ! that’s an exciting vehicle.
Beautiful car and paying cash for cars makes all the difference. Back in the day, I drove a lot of beaters because I didn't have the $$ to buy new. Eventually worked my finances up to being able to buy new outright. And I have been there ever since. Like this car, I wonder if the new Land Cruiser will be a category killer. I'm kind of expecting that, but we will see. 3 reasons I would choose the new Land Cruiser. 1. Toyota quality. 2. Available parts and service network. 3. Afftermarket parts. New Land Cruiser will have huge aftermarket support no doubt.
Saw a vid on these and once they mentioned BMW motor turned me off. Not that I could afford it anyway. But if it is BMW. that screams high cost maintenance and fixing something that breaks down. Other than that a sweet looking vehicle.
In Europe, for alleged pedestrian safety reasons, Alfa Romeo is no longer allowed to fit an off centre front licence plate. Yet you can drive around with a winch on the front. What a weird world we live in.
@@robbrownfield7677 you need to do a bit more research. European Union General Safety Regulations.
Thank you for this great information!
Personally I wouldn’t go throwing any money at it till you get some miles on it to prove it’s going to be reliable.
Also Ben get an aerator for the lawn from Home Depot the lawn will grown back deep green and not so lumpy from the dog that has been on it
I have no idea how the company is doing but I hope it's successful. While it's still crazy expensive for the average buyer, the idea behind creating it was a good one. Land Rover was a fool to abandon their roots just to concentrate entirely on luxury junk.
I watched the NAS Defender soar into the stratosphere in the 90’s. The Ineos will take the same route.
Never buy until the third year of production on any car. Worked for Saab for ten years. First year production - numerous recalls. Second year production - not so many, but some. Third year production - problems fixed and loads of parts bin extras thrown in for free. Just wait it out.
That BMW straight six cylinder engine is one of the best ever made and best BMW engine
ANY turbo engine by definition is under stress compared to a NA engine. The concern is how much stress are you willing to live with as you contemplate mods or a tune.
Should have got the Magic Mushroom colour and the contrasting ladder frame in HALO Red.
Ben using lawn fertilizer is not complicated,less then doing an oil change.
No chemicals in my yard
@@BenHardyCarsfertilizer can be natural as well
@@BenHardyCarsMaybe you need to start using chemicals…
Ben, my allergies went COMPLETLY away when I went gluten free. Can't hurt to try right? I enjoy your videos.
I’ve been gluten free and still get them sadly.
It’s grass
For the USA market, a GM LS 5.3 and 4L80 would make it more appealing and dirtcheap to maintain for decades. BMW/ ZF drivetrain and Bosch components is a soon endless money-pit.
Wrong. Plus don't act like those ls haven't had bearing issues or valve train issues. A bullet proof ls is a myth. The b58 has been super reliable and detuned
Love that Beast.
Would have preferred the BMW I6 B57 turbodiesel but the aftertreatment equipment on those kills the reliability. Just bought a MY23 Ram Rebel 2500 HD with the Cummins last September, but will keep my eyes open for more on these as it comes out.
Looks like your promotional video 😊
If they had a two-door option with a removable top like the original Defender, it would appeal more to me than it already is. Especially if they made a more base model with more simple materials. It looks great, though!
It does. Look up the Ineos Quartemaster.
How could you not know there are options , like the colour of the vehicle , did you buy it with a box over your head ?
Very honest views and review.
Better to have a dealership for issues like warranty work. Early on Tesla's sat for months that needed body work and/or warranty work.
If allergies Ben buy local homey, may help? I have two siblings that have the same thing
Was Land Rover Defender,
BMW 3liter straight six cyclinder
Built in France at a former Mercedes Benz car factory
I wear a dust mask and goggles when I mow... I look ridiculous but it saves me days of sneezing and itchy eyes.
Good idea
Had mine 6 months I dont like the steering but have gotten use to it.
Kinda weird. I like mine overall.
I live outside nashville and dealer is in atlanta so kinda a pain. Had a problem With blower on ac had to drive down took most of day to fix. But other than that its been fine
Nearest dealer for me is 1.5hr away. But I still want one. Since it's a BMW dealer, couldn't you just bring it to a euro shop for service?
Just can’t get over the placement of the drivers speedo … in the middle of the the dash is a let down. Every time I look at the speedo I’m looking down away from the rd, if only they had a HUD it would be ok. Cheers from Oz 🇦🇺
I'm very curious to see the Grenadier Vs. Toyota Land Cruiser videos that you and others will do. The LC looks to have a more complicated engine and tranny. But it's more powerful and efficient along with Toyota reliability. But its still a turbo. Where the Ineos is old school straight 6. Which will be more reliable? Wheelbases are nearly identical. A 4x4 competition will be needed. I will also be interested in seeing which have the most articulation. I wanted a Grenadier at first but the LC is looking better on paper.
Dude what are you doing for the financial turn around? I want a grenedier but as a cop that’s not in my salary
Ben like your video because you explained about the any vehicle you to know
It’s a BMW parts catalogue. I really like it as a future vehicle. Someone else needed to go first.
Please don’t comment if you don’t know what you’re talking about !. The engines are BMW, errr I don’t think that’s a bmw parts bin !
Ben, that thing is just beautiful!
I purchased a high end GM truck recently. The dealer service related to any type of warranty issue has been horrible. I don't understand how they can get away with how they do business.
In my area GM dealers are the best with regards to warranty service. Always handle everything easily no questions asked. I think it varies greatly by your local dealer. Some are great and some suck.
Come on out to vernal, I will take you on some really fun trails!
I thought this was the good review. Lots to import information. The car certainly looks very sexy. Enjoy!!!
Going to look great at the local Smith’s Grocery.
It would be interesting to see a comparison of the BMW 3.0L turbo I6 to the new Hurricane 3.0L turbo I6.
Spend your time shop around for best deal on the car your want and insurance you want , it can save your mega dollars people , and always ask for a better deal , it wont be offered by seller so insist on better price or walk away , walk away works well if youve got cash or cheque book on you , be organised and never show your happy until youve got a better deal or extras chucked in that cost big money , floor mats and light covers are cheap ask for more and a full tank of fuel to seal the deal😊 dont be scared to nag
I don’t like that they only get 10 mpg otherwise I would consider one. Nice looking but make no sense when you can get a Rubicon
😂
Super customisable means more and more parts, subassemblies, and devices with unproven quality and reliability and overall a vehicle with high complexity. The result is more maintenance and money upfront and down the road.
99% of the customised items are bolt on. They do not affect any sub assemblies. Even the winch just bolts onto a pre-installed fitting plate that comes with the vehicle whether you spec a winch or not.
The whole concept of the vehicle is “simple” and it is.
I think this thing is awesome
It's a G wagon and a classic Defender at the same time for the price of a Land Cruiser.
So for those that are giving him hate. You guys suck. He’s literally giving insight into a small world of this ownership. With that said, he did a great job. If you have a problem with the vehicle, take that up with yourselves. I’ll be honest, I didn’t like the INEOS two years ago, but it’s grown on me since. Because there will be less on the road, I would choose it over a new Land Cruiser, especially now with Toyota’s new car reliability in question. Plus the new Land Cruiser is not a looker (to me).
Did you have your eyes closed when you mowed your lawn?
Fix your landscaping dude. Neighbors must love you. lol
Why bother? He just keeps parking cars in the lawn anyway....
LMAO 🤣 😂😂
neighbors that make a big deal about other neighbors landscaping are the worst. mind your own business, live your own life, it's his property he can do what he wants.
He’s too busy spending half a million on different automobiles lol!
@@Justin-vg7ij nah, no one likes trashy neighbors