Mechanic Reacts To My New Ineos Grenadier
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- Опубликовано: 9 фев 2025
- Today I show my mechanic Doug my new Ineos Grenadier!
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That forehead damage tells me you got into a battle with one of those giant Utah mosquitos I've heard so much about, Ben. And that shirt tells me you aren't afraid to hit up the disco club later tonight.
Like it or not this car is definitely not some cookie-cutter common car that you see everywhere. The Grenadier is like a Greatest Hits album for offroaders. Lots of styling cues from other brands with a touch of originality mixed in.
I absolutely love the concept. Too much cheap junk in new cars.
What some people forget or didn't realize in the first place is this vehicle is meant to be a safari/ exploration vehicle. Its meant for expeditions and going in the bush. It's not designed for rock crawling or racing or grocery getting. So those are the criteria by which it should be judged.
It literally says on the badge “Build on Purpose”
It's ment for safari in the bush. But we have a BMW engine? Like this will need the dealership for everything. We're are they located in the bush? Wow can't even check the oil must cross your fingers the computer is perfect. I can see the dealership saying you though something was wrong so you started the vehicle now internal engine damage. You ran the vehicle so we're not covering it. Estimate to repair $15000. Service advisor states you should of brought the car in diagnostic fee $219 tow in because you can't check the oil $289. Plus $90000 to purchase mind-blowing
@@Robert-j5q1s
Yeah the BMW engine that needs to be dealer serviced and can't be serviced in the bush very well seems to be a poor choice. The rest of the design features are pretty good though for the intended purpose.
It's begging for an LS swap and solid axles 😂 then it'll be useful. That engine is vastly underpowered for off-road use.
@@scottleggejr seems to already have solid front axels?
Spinal cancer has taught me to ‘never say never’. Recovering now and looking ahead to early retirement, I don’t see myself sinking $80k in and off-road vehicle, but then again. Never say never and if I were to, this would be hard to pass up on (I’ll take green please). Looking forward to seeing how this amazing vehicle pans out for you. All the best!
The steel wheels add to the appeal, for real.
yeah, makes it look SUPER legit. Neighbor has one, but they have the alloy wheels and it doesn't have the BFGs either...not nearly as nice as this spec
Very sophisticated design. The pimple. Not the truck.
Loved it from the first time I saw it. Seattle Elliot Bay Auto now has it. I am getting one, same color. The only thing I don't like is the BMW gear shifter it just looks odd in the overall design.
Steel wheels are superior to mags for on off-road/work trucks because steel dents can be knocked back into place, allowing you to drive quite far to get repairs. Mags crack and break, leaving you reaching for a spare.
Steel wheels are used on police vehicles for this purpose.
Aluminum wheels + rocks = stitches if you touch it wrong.
Steel wheels are very heavy that does not help your suspention in many offroad situations
The lacking situation of spare parts hopefully improve in the future. I still cannot swallow $1200 key replacement.
Thats where the parts bin thing is good. You aren't reliant on some super small company for parts.
THAT PIMPLE IS FIRE!!!!!!!
I’d use my wife’s makeup
What a nice person you must be. Unbelievable
If your job is to be on camera, I'd definitely consider a little makeup for situations like that, but to each their own.
😂
I thought an Ineos Grenadier was going to drive right outta there!
Doug has my vote for the most laid-back dude on the planet.
I really like the Ineos Grenadier...I really hope they stay successful. I have a Wrangler which I really like, but I'm also interested in getting a Grenadier someday.
that zit looks so painful
It's not for everyone, and it's pricey. Everyone knows that buying a new vehicle is a gamble, especially for a new manufacturer. But you have to test drive one, do research on the parts used. Just by opening and closing the door, you know the build quality is there. 1 month owner, head turner, and conversation starter when I park anywhere. When not disabled, the bottle cap click noise above speed limit drives me nuts though.
Ineos automotive is new, but Ineos group is a huge chemical conglomerate with over 20 billions euros in revenue and over 26000 employees, so they have a very solid financial backbone.
The Grenadier was designed for off-road use most of the time with occasional city driving. All other 4x4s are designed primarily for paved roads that can go off-road once in a while. If you don't live in the county where you need a vehicle to drive on dirt or gravel roads or drive where there are no roads then it might be the wrong vehicle for you. I like the design and that it's available in a pickup truck version. If is wasn't so expensive and had an analog gauge cluster I would definitely consider buying one.
Hi Ben, thanks for all the great reviews! I'm looking for a new daily/adventure vehicle. I like the Grenadier, but I'm concerned about the steering comments from many reviewers. Does the steering bother you either daily or on road trips? Have you considered installing the Fox ATS or King steering stabilizer?
The B58 is legendary. It eats timing chains, but it's regarded by most as the best i6 engine ever built
The 2jz or 5.9 Cummins are the best i6 ever made but it can have third place. 😂
@@scottleggejrm57 - ❤
it eats timing chains and is legendary? timing chain is in the rear correct?
The B58 is not one of the engines known for timing chain tensioner problems. I had a 2009 535 - the N54 motor, if I recall correctly. Timing chain issues at 60,000 miles and every 3-4 months after. The B58 has a better history. Fingers crossed because I love this Grenadier.
As a 4 time bmw owner I have never ever never never had a engine issue period
I think the Grenadier is an interesting vehicle. It's not supposed to be an exact replica of anything out there already but have bits and pieces that is pulled from various vehicles that already exist, IMHO. Looking forward to your owner experience with this.
How zit goin', Ben?
LMAO!
genius
Dear Ben nice videos since you have a wrangler how does it compare to a jeep wrangler ?
Back here in UK it comes up against the New Defender, which is more accomplished on road and for similar money. However LandRover has an awful reputation for reliability. It will be interesting to see how this fares. It will be a deal maker/breaker for many prospective buyers
Nice vehicle, Ben, and it has to be better than the range rover you had. I did research on the grenadier, and it's a basic suv ! Later Marty and Christine from NC
It’s not an SUV it’s a UV and should be judged as such. 👍🏻🇬🇧
I think it’s cool. It’s the only other vehicle manufacturer that offers a solid front axle, and to me that makes it unique.
Road noise….lol. Ain’t nobody heard road noise unless they’ve owned a lifted Wrangler 392 with mud tires. The Grenadier, even with its faults, is intriguing and I look forward to the future content you make about it on this channel. Keep up the good work!
How can it be polarizing? The Grenadier is everything offroad/truck enthusiasts have been dreaming about for a generation. The only objective issue with it is that it is pricey.
Great comment. Except for the price. I'm surprised it is not pricier
The fuck? I'm an offroad and truck enthusiast and I wouldn't even think about buying this garbage. Looks like Ace Venturas suv that goes thru the woods to the consolate.
I don't know what the video is about. I was completely focused on that forehead hail damage.
You might want to study the history of Studebaker, which bought their engines from GM until GM decided to stop selling them to Studebaker.
loving the grenadier - proper old defender type off roader. Love the interior too.
Soft top JL Wrangler driving through the Midwest on the interstate with crosswinds is the loudest I’ve ever heard in a vehicle
The peanut gallery comments are entertaining. It is, in many ways, a parts bin car. The part people seem to forget is that the parts being pulled out of the bin are some of the best available. Also, the engineering juggernaut Magna Steyr did the most of the engineering heavy lifting.
The Grenadier clearly has some quirks, but all signs actually point to it being a good overall package. What remains to be determined is timely parts availability, overall serviceability, and total value for dollar.
If I was replacing my SUV, I would probably lean toward the GX550. That said, the main bearing issues that seem to be affecting the V35A are concerning. The 4 door offroad SUV market finally has some options. We should all rejoice for having choice again if nothing else.
I rather buy a brand new car. No more used cars. Thank you and it’s nice listening to you.
I agree. 👍👍
It is a new car
You do you. it's odd to go from a Land Cruiser to an Ineos looking for reliability, but i've caught some of your vids on your LC drama. Buying any first gen vehicle (first gen company at that) is likely to be a gamble, but either way it will be good content. I'm just here for the ride, lol
Let’s see, buys 2 lc200 with no issue. Both go get wrapped at same place, both end up with the same issue after going to get wrapped allowing moisture to get in. Coincidence maybe.
I enjoy your honest videos, but I am annoyed with click bait fake images or titles to videos that over dramatize things. The image you have with the mechanic with a worried look and you with you hands up is click bait. The dirty youtube secret is that drama equals clicks. (ala defender issues on another channel) But your honest every day man videos are what most of us enjoy about your channel. Keep it real, go do cool shit with it, and keep it fun. And bring in the wife for a ladies opinion on it. On another note tell us about the annoying beeps when you go over speed limit or go out of your lane. (Heard about this, but haven't experienced so maybe fake news.) The turning on the one I tested was way off. Not tight at all. Hopefully yours is better. Cheers buddy!
I think the Ineos is a really cool off-roader!! With how much you drive I wonder if it's the right choice. The new Lexus GX is probably a lot more comfortable on the highway.
Interesting experiment… if you have a bad battery and you car is unlocked, can you lock the back doors to secure your vehicle after you’ve removed the battery from under the back seat while you go get a new battery and the car has no power?
Good question, hope someone answers
As far as views & “clicks” BEST purchase you could have EVER made. As far as the real world, 🙅🏽♂️
Benny, boy!! You seriously need to weed your side yard, my man
it's designed to fill the niche the old land rover series and defender used to occupy. It's not meant to be a rock crawler like a wrangler...it's off road ability is tuned more for the explorer and over-lander clientele....it's also designed to be used by VIP's.
I really like it! 2:54
Love it! Its so unique!
What did you mechanic respond with? what were his thoughts?
Often times polarizing vehicles end up becoming classics. Ford Excursion comes to mind.
The Ineos’ infotainment sounds are those of the ps5, and I get confused if it’s the video or someone using my ps5 without permission
You tell Doug steel wheels are cool, retro for all aka defenders back in the day, what the vehicle is modeled after. Kinda guy that buys his wheels at a Auto Parts Supply store near a mall😂
The companies that supply the mechanical for these are best manufacturers in the business. Just because they are not American names. And the steel wheels are easier to handle if you have to change them. The aluminium wheels are heavy units like on the Discovery 1, there thick and weight a lot.
Can't even check your own oil anymore. That would bother me. I like having my oil level at the top of the full mark.
Welcome to BMW…
You can...if you have the B57 diesel
You can, it just shows you the level in the dash now instead of with a stick. You trust very similar sensors everyday for how much fuel you have in the tank, I don't see anyone checking their fuel level with a dipstick haha
@@UnyonRingNailed it.
Although I appreciate the vehicle, I see them as somebody found something to use unused old shape Land Rover Defender bodies.
If I could afford one of these I would absolutely get one
Its like a parts bin caror kit car.
Pull the interior and add sound damping material.
They said similar things when the 2003 Hummer H2 came out.
This is not a personal poke at Ben, but I hear so many people complain about something he brought up in this video segment? I don't understand when people complain about road/wind noise with off-road vehicles? Its a multi- purposeful vehicle made to tackle rough terrain and go off the beaten path? Most people in this country (USA) buy vehicles like these and don't even use them for what they are built for, yet they wanna speed in these vehicles and complain about road/wind noise? Buy a Lexus and leave the hardcore off-road vehicles for the people who understand the difference and purpose?
Saw one yesterday thought it was a Gwagon. I like it Picasso
Looks good to me. I've seen a bunch in Colorado
How much should a wrap cost?
& dont know if anyone has noticed but off-roading done in let say Australia,RSA, Australia & UK is "different" compared to like in America?.thats why i feel different SUVs/off-roaders make more sense on different countries/continents.
Definitely, in Australia we don't see the need for 37 inches of rubber or ridiculous lifts. It all about travel than crawling over rocks
Every time I see one of these, I can only think of the Canyonero from the Simpsons.
Have you ever experienced the real world? There’s a SUV called the Land Rover that matches it a bit better lmao.
Scotty does his and several other ppl share of click bait these days but id like to see his hands on first impressions of this vehicle, Ben since you have one you should reach out to Scotty 😂. Seriously though
i want this truck but 80k is a bit much and i make 120k/year
You worried about the price, obviously you don’t have Land Cruiser 300 in the US. Comparing to jeeps and stuff is funny. And you have no diesel.
His head '
That’s a good engine. Will be pretty reliable. Better than Toyotas new turbo
Congrats again, Ben, on getting a Grenadier. With the exception of the transmission and the price point, it's pretty much perfect. I hope it's something you'll enjoy for many years to come!! Still hoping to get one myself someday. Beautiful truck!! Are you changing the color or finish with the wrap, or just going with gloss PPF so it looks the same?
What’s wrong with the transmission?
The Grenadier, the real inheritor of the LR Defender mantel, not that hairdresser SUV made by Tata that claims its an LR Defender
Mechanic Reacts to my Pimple 😂😂😂😂
What you need is a F150 platinum v8
Mechanic is the smart quiet one. He's probably thinking "this guy again. Ugh"
he didn't look enthusiastic with the new suv
Ugh is right
I did not like this first but the more i watch the videos i think its a pretty fair deal sub 70k in the future.
Ben uses headlines that misrepresent the actual review. This inflammatory post shows a frustrated mechanic showing that he is disappointed or feels that the ineos is a problem vehicle from a mechanics point of view. Bens reviews have no actual content other than him trying to get views or to get a manufacturer to help him out by scaring them with his negative reviews
Looks like a modern version of my 1950 Willys Jeep wagon. Except for the price. A stripped down version should sell for $45K.
Sorry Ben, that comedo on your forehead is too distracting… 🥴
He should have worn a hat.
He's been hitting the frozen leftover Easter chocolate again...
Beautiful!!!!😍🤩🚜💣💪🏻🔥🔝
Think about all the reliable British cars that are driving around........
I don’t think there is a single British component in it, it was designed by Magna (Austrian) built in France using BMW engines and ZF main transmission (German) axles I believe are Italian, so British car ? 👍🏻🇬🇧
@@AJ-qn6gd It was started by a Brit who wanted to replace his land rover and it was originally planned to be built in Wales. Just like many British cars, almost everything is outsourced and combination of many brands makes the final cut. It never seems to end well.
Hope it is reliable and you enjoy it. It is a lot better than the stupid god awful Cybertruck.
I like this vehicle, but….. 1st year model (beta tester?)m part and service support going forward ?, $80K. Unknown durability and future of product?, 15mpg? Lots of unknown variables.
Too bad they didn’t give the NA b57 diesel engine. Gets way better mpg and better torque
HOW reliable is that BMW turbo i6 gonna be ??
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We will see
pimple... can't take my eyes off it
I think it’s a great vehicle and has potential,but I don’t think they will hold their value because they are new and need to prove that they are reliable
I agree, but values will only go so low, because of the utility the vehicle provides.
Ben, we are familiar with your rapid vehicle changes and your short loved romances with your latest purchase(s).
We are just concerned that you and your family will end up living under a bridge eating ramen noodles for your one meal a day. On that note, I warned you before you purchased this suv with concerns about dealership servicing network, parts are a minimum of 6 months wait and its a 1st year model . oh, and the steering drift on center. One positive is that the bmw engine they use for your suv is their most reliable one so it should do quite well, for a while at least.
Considering Toyotas new LC /first edition is a coming in close to 80k but comes with a
retarded 4cyl/ turbo/hybrid, I'd say you made the better choice. But you have to keep the vehicle at least 5 yrs so you arent upsidedown with negative equity.
And don't generalize everyone as being uneducated haters. We are outside your fish bowl looking in and are just trying to warn you of things you may not have considered. Thats called useful information, not a dig at your choices. Hell, I was considering getting a Grenadier myself until I researched it more. Maybe a few model years later I might.
The distance to the dealership is definitely a concern, but the dealer has parts available. An even bigger concern is being stuck with an incompetent dealer. If you are fine with the B58, i would assume you would be fine with other parts. Mine has been solid so far without any steering drift issues. From my research, the steering issues occur for people with the K02 tires. I have Bridgestones.
Did you buy that thing before or after you got that goose bump opn your forhead?
You should have kept the Land Cruiser or bought a new Land Cruiser. You bought something that will be hard to get parts for and expensive to work on. Get rid of that thing as soon as you can, you are going to lose to butt on this purchase, nobody will want that thing used! 🤣
That bmw engine is a success record. As it is used in different platforms so not sure if reliability will be an issue
The vehicle's main purpose is to separate suckers from their cash. Ineos will be out of business within 5 years. I'll be on the lookout for your future video: Why I'm getting rid of my Ineos Grenadier.
Awesome! Limited production value during a period of societal shift towards the 150k-10m annual earners. It's a high ticket item built for high worth individuals by a high worth individual. There will always be a market for this vehicle with the disposable income crowd.
@@GreyCrowe lol you think 150k grossers are well equipped to buy an 80k car
So you just called yourself a sucker. Congratulations 😂
FUD!
Don’t be a hater, it’s bad for your health.
More videos about this suv
Why don't you stop talking and let the poor mechanic express his own opinion .Ok!! OK!! we've heard you blabbering away, let the poor man speak for himself. Did you watch the video yourself. Didn't you notice how annoying it was.
Well Ben....you've owned everything else....why not keep this forever vehicle for a year or so?......🤷♂️
If you lift and put some real tires on that new machine - It would make for great content...
Looks like he bumped his head
Should be great quality, like Land Rover and Range Rover and Jaguar and Yugo…
the design is beautiful, the problem is with the B58 BMV engine
It’s a super cool vehicle. But I wouldn’t buy one because of the lack of dealer network and I’m fairly sure they’ll be bankrupt in 3 years.
Brand new and then to the shop
No good
Wait, your kid is a year old? What the fuck? where did the time go!
Haha
This ain’t it dude. Sorry. Lol.
So people think u bumped your head, hmm 🤔
BMW engine grenades it for me talk about something that will be an endless money pit you are going to find that out unless you get rid of it before it hits 100k miles. They look cool and well made off road wise, but choosing a German engine was a bad idea! People seem to thing the German engineering is great which it false they have not been great since the 70's, 80's, and some early 90's when they used to build bullet proof engines. Should have used Toyota or Honda engines IMO:P
Toyotas new turbo engines are having issues, and the same for Honda. The b58 has been so reliable since about 2015 that Toyota trusted bmw to work together on the mark 5 Supra.
@@JosephSamsor Toyota is not having widespread issues they are having some issues with a few of their engines. People forget Toyota is now the largest auto manufacturer in the World so when you take into account how many are sold and how many have failed it is still tiny. Toyota has also proven over the years to perfect their engines over time to near bullet proof. Only one turbo engine has given Toyota the most problems and that is the current new Tundra and still the amount of failures to total amount sold without failures is tiny. For Toyota to maintain its reliable name and be the largest auto maker is unheard of yet they have done it. Only issues Honda has had is fuel getting into the crankcase from HP fuel pumps easily corrected by earlier oil change intervals and these problems are faced by every single auto maker using direct injection. Also German parts are mostly patented designs so your forced to pay the high prices they choose when they break you do not have a choice in many cases. Proprietary parts is German trash engines achillis heal. Yes I am a real German engine hater they have not made reliable bullet proof engines since the early 70's and 80's. I have seen people time and time again realize after buying a BMW they made a huge mistake. Yes they ride better and deliver a different driving experience, but the lack of reliability and cost to repair is just stupid:P
Useless play toy. A little much for going to the grocery store. Designed in one country built in another and a sure to implode bmw motor, good luck.
Damn this thing is a POS and almost 100k
it has an bmw engine so it wont last