To be honest this car is engineered by the same company that builds the G Wagon, arguably one of the best SUVs ever made. And they chose good reputable parts, B58/57 (best petrol and diesel powertrain available in the 250-400ho category), ZF8, best auto trans for the last 15 years, Carrara Axles, overkill tractor stuff, Tremec geared transfer case, etc. This is what you get when you choose to build a tough 70k~100k SUV. Everything else has compromises, either luxury/comfort or lack of budget.
The founder of the Grenadier is a big fan and owner of the old LR Defenders. The Grenadier was not developed from nothing, it was developed from all the negative and bad features and qualities of an old Defender!
As a UK owner of a 2 seat IG van for 17 months, think your about right. Software switches you need to reset and learn. But it's the most capable standard truck you can probably buy. I use mine for work as a fencing and forestry contractor. It's better than my old defender 130. Apparently they are thinking of producing the Quartermaster on factory portals and there would be room for an under slung tank. It's good to see you looking at different vehicles, keeps the channel fresh.
@stevegreen101 but if produced by Ineos then you hope you would be covered by some warranty. Surely they would not warrant a modified vehicle unless it was an approved conversion, like say for example Pedders are for Isuzu, or Artic Trucks? Sorry I am not familiar with LeTech.
I drive mine 18,000 km so far with no issues and ive been dune bashing with the grenadier on a daily basis. Love the car one of the best car choices i made ❤
This is pretty spot on and a good honest review based on actual experience, in quite a few different environments. We should do one at some point! We’re currently on a 5-year trip in a Grenadier across the world towing a Patriot X3, which we live in. We set off from London in mid-July 2023 with our two young kids and we’re approaching 50000km. At least 70% of our journey has been off-road... top job Ronny! 👍
Best view of the Grenny so far. I’m up to 48,000km in mine now. I pretty much agree with your findings. I love mine and wouldn’t swap it for anything, except maybe the Quartermaster although I think the rear legroom in the QM is not quite as good as the waggon, and I have almost 3 teenagers. My only gripes are the lack of a workshop manual which was promised at launch. Come on INEOS, it’s been 2 years now! The lack of a fault code reader that can clear codes and reset service intervals is also a gripe. I guess this will come, the demand is there! I recently serviced mine myself and had to go back to the dealer anyway to get the service interval reset.. not good. Overall I’m delighted with is though.
Thank you, Ronny. Your excellent review, with honest and honourable comments, was top-class and reminded me why I chose my Grenadier. I am now just a squeak under 30K in mine. That anniversary ticks off this afternoon, and I will drive it to the inner city. Due to all its good points, the Grenadier has become my daily driver. It makes me feel good-it drives better than I need-and passengers all tell me they love it to take a journey!
Mr. Dahl I can’t tell you how overjoyed and maybe even a little relieved by this final assessment because your opinion on these matters is one that can’t be ignored, unlike some who borrowed a Grenadier for a weekend, mainly because I have two in the Garage and a quartermaster on order. I sold two well modified 200 series Land Cruisers, 2013 and 2021 that i just assume throw rocks at before Grenadier ownership that I swore I would never sell.
I feel like I live a sheltered life, as I finally saw one on the road the other day! 🤣 I was impressed with it... looked great, sounded great... definitely would want one! 😂 Thanks Ronny!
Good to chat to you at the show, watch you travels and hear your views here. Yes, I was an early adopter. Yes, she still brings a smile to my face every time I driver her. Yes, resetting switches is a bit annoying, but at least it's only a couple of switches. You don't have to go through various menus to get to settings. As someone that nearly bought (another) Toyota, I absolutely agree with your sentiments around what you would need to add to a 76 to bring it to the same kit level as the Grenadier, and I still love how easy she makes rough ground to drive. So how long until we see you with a Quartermaster cab chassis and Norweld tray? 😉
Best genuine review anywhere in the world, agree foot thing all in the mind, after 10,000 klms incl. Pilbara where it got lots of attention , I'm most impressed with my 2 seat version. Loads of space inside and comfort makes excellent it an excellent tourer and capable 4x4.
Great content, really enjoyed the grenadier series. You blow everyone else out of the water. Keep up the balanced, common sense views and awesome footage from around Australia. 👌
Great objective review Ronny - I’m quite sure without prompting from Ineos…Great vehicle! Almost embryonic of the petrol Ineos , is my ‘98 110 defender with (SA) 2,8i BMW petrol engine tweaked up to 180kW . 60km/h at 3600 rpm in low ratio (peak kW) and 75km/h at 4200 rpm (peak torque) which makes it really good in sand (can rev happily to 5500/6000rpm max 175km/h). Fitted a Detroit Trutrac rear LSD and low level fuel and water tanks - to make 120l and 100l respectively. Best consumption 11 l/100km @ 120 km/h. 200 000km mostly bush from Cape Town to Zambia and everywhere in between. Worst consumption 17l/100km into headwind with roof tent on. Average 13-14l/100km Solo only, with a satellite phone which I only used to say hi to the kids. 1 clutch renewed in etosha at 170 000km. (PS not an oil leak ever). I think Ineos has got it really good barring the awkward fuel mods….
Having a massive fuel capacity is such an underrated thing. The best thing I’ve done to my Prado was upping the 150L standard capacity to 223L. It came in so handy on my WA trip.
I have driven my 2 seater for 19,000km now. That was a fair and balanced review of the Grenadier. BTW INEOS ANZ is in the process of building up a Grenadier cab chassis show car with all the fruit from Australian accessory makers like JMAX, Redarc, Norweld, Brown Davis, etc. Others have also come on board like KAON, Euroflo, etc.
Ronny did a great job testing this vehicle, I enjoyed watching it and even test drove the Grenadier, I don't need to point the pros and cons. At the end, price wise, and half the cost, a 2021 Defender 110 was my choice 😂. My top dislike for the Grenadier is the way it steers.
I am sure I won't be buying an Ineos Grenadier but you had a really great review. I also enjoyed watching your episodes of your travels in the Grenadier. Thanks for spending the time to entertain us and give us some really good information about all the vehicles you drive.
After 7,000 miles my top 5 things I like. 1. Insane off road capability. 2. Insane durability 3. Looks 4. Easy of modification 5. We only buy triple locker solid axle cars for our family. Dont like 1. ADAS nonsense 2. Software glitches such as fuel gauge and check engine lights ( need to get it in for software updates) 3. Buttons resetting off road, same as you. 4. Poorly thought out stock rock slider and access with no grab handle for driver 5. Honestly, this list is hard. Maybe steering on road? Not hard, just more tiring on long pavement trips. The reality is the Grenadier is not for a lot of people, as it is so specific case use. But for our family, its perfect.
Ronny I cannot believe nobody has mentioned this before but I have test driven the Grenadier and removed the vinyl floor mat on the drivers side .That left foot rest is just a big chuck of foam and once removed it gave me a lot more lenght to stretch out my left leg. Just remove the matt and cut the foot rest off and refit- it will feel totally more comfortable whilst driving.
Love the review 11/10! Personally found it sad to see a lot of drivers having issues with the e-lockers out of the box before putting bigger tyres on but that is exclusively hardcore off roaders VS they are fine for touring and everything in this video (albiet forum reviews). Hope to see what the aftermarket community can do to bring these rigs to the next level moving forwards!
@cyclemoto8744 thankyou! A fully optioned IG is 2810kg, then you need to add another 70l of fuel for range. There are obviously loads of factors, but they're not dissimilar.
@@jeremybishop2207 forgot to mention that was with a full tank of fuel too 90L (the reference to approximate is due to the LC having some gear in it as well when I weighed it. cheers
Thanks for a great and honest review. The headthing is always a big problem, also I think that Ineos did a great job for a brand new on the market car and shouldn’t get stuck of some of its problems that have to be sold. Give it a chance and honestly, how many new honest off-roaders are built today?
My main problem I can’t get diffs on tap when I need them most always holding up people trying to them in engaged. It’s going back Friday as there is a loud clunking noise when going over speed bumps and also slowing down etc.
@aggitravel i'd bet odds on the clunking is your steering damper and arm. Grab the connecting bolt in the middle, pull it forward hard, it rotates and clunck/rings, now push it back hard, it again rotates and clunks/rings
@@aggitravelcheck out the steering shock absorber’s cover. If it’s loose, just wrap a piece of these u shape rubbers with metallic inner insert (you know the ones used to cover the edges of the bumpers or the chopped fenders) around the edge of the cover. Cheap and effective solution.
Thanks for very valuable insight. I wish you could do similar sort of project with new defender 110. I think that is one of the overlooked vehicle and deserve your valuable insight
I’m 6’4”, got into it, drove around the block, and got out again with a sore left hip. I’ll stick with the D4. It goes anywhere and I’ve ever been more comfortable.
Mr Ronny D, I luv your vids cause they're absolutely DTE, honest and informative. I would love to go 4WDing with ya mate and pick your brains and experience. My GU is a POS but slowly as budget permits I am doing her up to be a beast. Keep up the great vid and honest reviews mate
i think the next iteration will be really good if they listen to people. Unfortunately i think a lot of the smaller annoyances are due to regulations and safety and net zero nonsense so they won't be able to stop that.
I’m gutted that this vehicle is outta my price point. My grandfather had an old series 2 Landrover that he adored but when he past away it was stripped and sold for parts. What I’d give to be able to drive that now wouldn’t be short of my kidneys and right arm but I won’t touch a modern Landy, but these ineos’s have been my literal perfect since I first heard about there development. I even visited the Seymour show for the last 4 years or so just to see and sit in them😂 I know it’s pathetic but they are so damn nostalgic it’s not funny! Thanks for the epic review, watching your videos on the ineos has made me a happy man!
Its been a great series on the Grenadier, loved it. But I thought there was one thing missing and for me, and many others, it would have been towing capabilities. Would loved to have seen a review on that aspect. Cheers
I recently completed a 25,000km trip around northern Australia starting and finishing in Perth. I did see a few Grenadiers around the cities but very few (almost none) in the more remote areas (Queensland/NT). After watching this video I can only conclude that it is not the capability of the vehicle that makes it hard to use in these areas, but the range. I think I saw some underbody shots of the grenadier and it all looked pretty packed in with little space to install a proper long range fuel tank. The external tanks are a solution I guess, but as you said in the video they created extra work and personally I would not like the look of those things stuck on the outside. I would also be concerned about them falling off or failing physically, which could lead to very serious consequences away from other refuelling options.
Ronny! Thanks for another great vid. I know you can’t help me here but I’m sure others may offer opinions haha. I’m stuck deciding between a used G wagon (2015-17, depending on trim & km) or a Grenny in magic mushroom! Light off roading, not a daily, hauling dogs, trails, will tow, looking for character & fun. Ideally holding on to it for some time. Help! 😂
I’m 30000 in and just got the LR fuel tank through brown Davis. It’s not perfect and needs some R+D and my mechanic whinged a bit, but it’s completely changed the game. Over 1000 to a tank now and I’m pretty heavy on the gas (about 16-17L/100km).
9:40 Ronny, the wipers are RHD. The issue is identical for LHD, it's cause by the geometry. The pivot points need to be closer to the drivers position. A really annoying design flaw.
7:20 yeah I really wish if it had a built in huge tank I. E some Toyota vehicles have 180L tanks others have optional 159L (fj cruiser) 153L (LC150) or fordF150 which also got a huge tank
Unfortunately not true for the LC150. If it has KDSS - which most do have - then space restriction is very bad for the extra fuel tank. Only about 35L could be added and they cost still a lot to modify (around 4K Euros here in Europe) making it usually not worth the money unless you can install and vet it yourself.
I test drove one in London today. It was beautiful, I sat very high up, it was very comfortable and it felt like I imagine what driving a tank would feel. Two insurmountable obstacles for my were 1. The awful turning circle - surely this could be made tighter. 2. No satnav - what? With constantly changing road conditions all over the uk we need information on alternative routes all the time. And finally, there are some changes to the taxation of Chelsea tractors which are going to add many thousands of pounds to the cost of these beautiful vehicles. I loved the look, I loved the drive but those two problems made purchase impossible.
Apple car play is better than any satnav I have used. It’s always up to date and traffic data is live. Plus you can use any phone mapping app like Gaia gps. It works well.
you don't want sat nav built into your vehicle by the manufacturer. they rarely get updates and are obsolete quickly. far better off having an aftermarket stand alone one that's better from the start.
Offroad vehicles don’t generally have tight turning circles and London is hardly the intended domain of this vehicle - LR Defender is what you’re after.
Sat Nav you can get when your phone is paired with the head unit. Steering can be adjusted, some owners have wound the limiting bolt on the diff to make it turn tighter.
@@pantoqwertyin practice the people with the money to buy these vehicles will spend a fair amount of time tooling around in west London. Thanks for the observations.
Impressive and informative videos. Appreciate it. Thanks. Wondered about the after sales service though eg parts and aftermarket since it is unique production vehicle, unlike Toyota that have parts and aftermarket everywhere
And don't forget to mention that the weight of the vehicle gives you the improved pay load when compared to others. It's a tough 4x4 by all measures from what I've seen.
Hey Ronny! Did you have any issues with the software? Many other customers have issues with software. And how was it with the front big radiator? Many drivers get it crushed on the bottom. How was is it for you?
I have a very heavily modified 4Runner, I am in the US and it’s our best option. I started building out the truck as soon as I purchased it new, this was the plan for it when I bought it. I still have to admit it is very scary to drill holes in the roof for lighting and power to a tent and power in from solar. I did it right with extremely good cable glands but there is no going back from this type of mod. The same goes for a raised air intake, I have no regrets but not having to do this would be awesome. The first rumblings about the Grenadier came to light just before I bought my truck I considered waiting but decided not to because it wasn’t even a sure thing at this time. Very glad I didn’t wait because the diesel ended up not being sold here. The fuel issue would be compounded with gas. Still a really cool truck but I will stick with my tried and true Toyotas. Cheers
We traded our Four Runner for a Grenadier. Light years ahead of a 4 Runner. Fuel range? I have only done one trip across multiple states off road, and did not have a jerry can mount or anything yet and went days. With long range tanks coming out, that can be fixed easily. The 4 runner, on the other hand has so many limitations and is hard to modify.
Bought one because of your reviews- I did a test drive obv but this thing looks like it will handle it all I am definitely going to f to add a bigger tank though
I am bit suprised that he didnt adress the terrible turning ratio and the wiggly steering on normal road!. Whit that ssid though, super impressive first car build, almost unheard off to get so little problems with a first model build.
Not only large batteries. All the “safety tech” that are mandatory are adding more and more weight also. In the case of the grenadier, the frame is just too massive (you would not believe how think the walls and the cross members are) also the axles are pretty heavy but also duty
Its everything the Land Rover Defender should have been to continue its legacy, instead of becoming a "Chelsea tractor". I am sure there are things we will see Ineos change and improve on as models get updated, but as a first car from a company that has never made a vehicle before - its awesome. Nice review Ronny.
lmao these comments. Do you know how many Defenders LR have been selling? They’ve absolutely knocked it out of the park with a very desirable and very capable 4WD that wouldn’t be the case if they had done what a few people say that it ‘it should have been’ otherwise. It’s cool that the Grenadier exists for people who love the old Defender to get something new but it’s completely ignorant to say that the Defender brand has somehow failed.
@ And do you know the percentage that have spent more than 3 weeks having major warranty repairs done - over 36% according to stats from JLR themselves. That really is not good for a vehicle like this.
Many thanks for this, I have been eagerly awaiting this review and now the question remains… should I upgrade to the ineos grenadier from my 2014 LR defender 110 2.2 ??
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It's really REALLY impressive to engineer a car "out of nothing" as a first try, and get it so good.
Hat's off to the engineers !
To be honest this car is engineered by the same company that builds the G Wagon, arguably one of the best SUVs ever made.
And they chose good reputable parts, B58/57 (best petrol and diesel powertrain available in the 250-400ho category), ZF8, best auto trans for the last 15 years, Carrara Axles, overkill tractor stuff, Tremec geared transfer case, etc.
This is what you get when you choose to build a tough 70k~100k SUV. Everything else has compromises, either luxury/comfort or lack of budget.
The missed the mark by 1000 miles in reality
The founder of the Grenadier is a big fan and owner of the old LR Defenders. The Grenadier was not developed from nothing, it was developed from all the negative and bad features and qualities of an old Defender!
As a UK owner of a 2 seat IG van for 17 months, think your about right. Software switches you need to reset and learn. But it's the most capable standard truck you can probably buy. I use mine for work as a fencing and forestry contractor. It's better than my old defender 130.
Apparently they are thinking of producing the Quartermaster on factory portals and there would be room for an under slung tank. It's good to see you looking at different vehicles, keeps the channel fresh.
It's already being produced by LeTech...
@stevegreen101 but if produced by Ineos then you hope you would be covered by some warranty. Surely they would not warrant a modified vehicle unless it was an approved conversion, like say for example Pedders are for Isuzu, or Artic Trucks? Sorry I am not familiar with LeTech.
I drive mine 18,000 km so far with no issues and ive been dune bashing with the grenadier on a daily basis. Love the car one of the best car choices i made ❤
Daily dune bashing🤨
@@Gnargoyle811he is live in middle east for sure😊
18,000km and no issues so far?! You’d hope so 🤣🤣🤣
@@Gnargoyle811 i am from the uae so i hope it makes sense
@@Brendo95 🤣🤣 i mean so far so good
This is pretty spot on and a good honest review based on actual experience, in quite a few different environments. We should do one at some point! We’re currently on a 5-year trip in a Grenadier across the world towing a Patriot X3, which we live in. We set off from London in mid-July 2023 with our two young kids and we’re approaching 50000km. At least 70% of our journey has been off-road... top job Ronny! 👍
I subscribed to your channel, I want to watch, maybe I will go someday.
Best view of the Grenny so far. I’m up to 48,000km in mine now. I pretty much agree with your findings. I love mine and wouldn’t swap it for anything, except maybe the Quartermaster although I think the rear legroom in the QM is not quite as good as the waggon, and I have almost 3 teenagers. My only gripes are the lack of a workshop manual which was promised at launch. Come on INEOS, it’s been 2 years now! The lack of a fault code reader that can clear codes and reset service intervals is also a gripe. I guess this will come, the demand is there! I recently serviced mine myself and had to go back to the dealer anyway to get the service interval reset.. not good. Overall I’m delighted with is though.
Yes, the lack of promised service centres and manuals is a real bug bear. Especially when you're far away from the nearest dealer.
To read and reset service you might try selecting a BMW with the same engine - transmission combo in your OBD device.
@ already tried that. Sadly doesn’t work.
@@tomdixon7955 the generic code readers can clear most codes and read all parameters like EGTs etc
It is not a car to drive fast on the road the steering is soft and tires are not really made for the road.
You really need to drive it with caution.
Now this is a proper off-road vehicle review!
Thank you, Ronny. Your excellent review, with honest and honourable comments, was top-class and reminded me why I chose my Grenadier.
I am now just a squeak under 30K in mine. That anniversary ticks off this afternoon, and I will drive it to the inner city. Due to all its good points, the Grenadier has become my daily driver. It makes me feel good-it drives better than I need-and passengers all tell me they love it to take a journey!
You have served everyone so well with this series Ronny. Thank you!!!
Thank you. Nice to hear a balanced summary of a vehicle’s attributes.
Mr. Dahl I can’t tell you how overjoyed and maybe even a little relieved by this final assessment because your opinion on these matters is one that can’t be ignored, unlike some who borrowed a Grenadier for a weekend, mainly because I have two in the Garage and a quartermaster on order. I sold two well modified 200 series Land Cruisers, 2013 and 2021 that i just assume throw rocks at before Grenadier ownership that I swore I would never sell.
Ronny is a legend. I thoroughly enjoy his videos.
Thanks
I feel like I live a sheltered life, as I finally saw one on the road the other day! 🤣 I was impressed with it... looked great, sounded great... definitely would want one! 😂 Thanks Ronny!
Good to chat to you at the show, watch you travels and hear your views here.
Yes, I was an early adopter. Yes, she still brings a smile to my face every time I driver her. Yes, resetting switches is a bit annoying, but at least it's only a couple of switches. You don't have to go through various menus to get to settings. As someone that nearly bought (another) Toyota, I absolutely agree with your sentiments around what you would need to add to a 76 to bring it to the same kit level as the Grenadier, and I still love how easy she makes rough ground to drive.
So how long until we see you with a Quartermaster cab chassis and Norweld tray? 😉
Best genuine review anywhere in the world, agree foot thing all in the mind, after 10,000 klms incl. Pilbara where it got lots of attention , I'm most impressed with my 2 seat version. Loads of space inside and comfort makes excellent it an excellent tourer and capable 4x4.
Good on ya Ronny love the honesty with the left foot thing being a placebo
Great content, really enjoyed the grenadier series. You blow everyone else out of the water. Keep up the balanced, common sense views and awesome footage from around Australia. 👌
love the review..
nice to hear an honest thought.. be it your own.. but best review found so far..
Love the vids
the setting for the interview is just like painting , awesome !😀
I absolutely love your videos Ronny!! Please keep them coming 🔥 🔥🔥
Great objective review Ronny - I’m quite sure without prompting from Ineos…Great vehicle!
Almost embryonic of the petrol Ineos , is my ‘98 110 defender with (SA) 2,8i BMW petrol engine tweaked up to 180kW . 60km/h at 3600 rpm in low ratio (peak kW) and 75km/h at 4200 rpm (peak torque) which makes it really good in sand (can rev happily to 5500/6000rpm max 175km/h). Fitted a Detroit Trutrac rear LSD and low level fuel and water tanks - to make 120l and 100l respectively. Best consumption 11 l/100km @ 120 km/h. 200 000km mostly bush from Cape Town to Zambia and everywhere in between. Worst consumption 17l/100km into headwind with roof tent on. Average 13-14l/100km
Solo only, with a satellite phone which I only used to say hi to the kids. 1 clutch renewed in etosha at 170 000km. (PS not an oil leak ever).
I think Ineos has got it really good barring the awkward fuel mods….
Having a massive fuel capacity is such an underrated thing. The best thing I’ve done to my Prado was upping the 150L standard capacity to 223L. It came in so handy on my WA trip.
I have driven my 2 seater for 19,000km now. That was a fair and balanced review of the Grenadier. BTW INEOS ANZ is in the process of building up a Grenadier cab chassis show car with all the fruit from Australian accessory makers like JMAX, Redarc, Norweld, Brown Davis, etc. Others have also come on board like KAON, Euroflo, etc.
Ronny did a great job testing this vehicle, I enjoyed watching it and even test drove the Grenadier, I don't need to point the pros and cons. At the end, price wise, and half the cost, a 2021 Defender 110 was my choice 😂. My top dislike for the Grenadier is the way it steers.
I am sure I won't be buying an Ineos Grenadier but you had a really great review. I also enjoyed watching your episodes of your travels in the Grenadier. Thanks for spending the time to entertain us and give us some really good information about all the vehicles you drive.
Thanks for sharing and taking us along
Ronny you have justice to the Ineos Grenadier. Thank you for this series
After 7,000 miles my top 5 things I like. 1. Insane off road capability. 2. Insane durability 3. Looks 4. Easy of modification 5. We only buy triple locker solid axle cars for our family. Dont like 1. ADAS nonsense 2. Software glitches such as fuel gauge and check engine lights ( need to get it in for software updates) 3. Buttons resetting off road, same as you. 4. Poorly thought out stock rock slider and access with no grab handle for driver 5. Honestly, this list is hard. Maybe steering on road? Not hard, just more tiring on long pavement trips. The reality is the Grenadier is not for a lot of people, as it is so specific case use. But for our family, its perfect.
Isn't it a little early, at 7k miles, to be talking about durability?
At 7,000 miles the thing isn't event broken in yet, and you're talking about durability...
You got a like for the left foot thing. Well done, mate.
Ronny I cannot believe nobody has mentioned this before but I have test driven the Grenadier and removed the vinyl floor mat on the drivers side .That left foot rest is just a big chuck of foam and once removed it gave me a lot more lenght to stretch out my left leg. Just remove the matt and cut the foot rest off and refit- it will feel totally more comfortable whilst driving.
Thanks been waiting for that! 10/10 review
Great review Ronny!
I was about to buy it, but you changed my mind. Thank you.
Fantastic, real world review. Well done Ronny, would certainly looks at the Ineos as a replacement in the future
Great review and great editing by Paul - must've taken ages. 👏👏
Always educational… thanks, Ronny!
Love the review 11/10! Personally found it sad to see a lot of drivers having issues with the e-lockers out of the box before putting bigger tyres on but that is exclusively hardcore off roaders VS they are fine for touring and everything in this video (albiet forum reviews). Hope to see what the aftermarket community can do to bring these rigs to the next level moving forwards!
I drove mine 55,000km with no single issue 👍🏻👏🏻
Such an amazing machine! I’m surprised they haven’t put the BMW 3 liter diesel in it. It’s an amazing power plant with proven reliability.
What does the 76 series weigh when you add a steel bar, winch, sliders, snorkel, front and rear skid plates and aux battery?
Mine weights about 2900kg , minus sliders, with 2x 33 inch wheels on the rear bar and sound deadening
@cyclemoto8744 thankyou! A fully optioned IG is 2810kg, then you need to add another 70l of fuel for range. There are obviously loads of factors, but they're not dissimilar.
@@jeremybishop2207 forgot to mention that was with a full tank of fuel too 90L (the reference to approximate is due to the LC having some gear in it as well when I weighed it. cheers
In the space of five days last week I saw six grenadiers. Two of them were on Moreton Island beach driving.
Good job on the Grenadier series Ronny...
and all covered under the cars warranty, as opposed to warranty limiting mods when done on other brands.
Thanks for a great and honest review. The headthing is always a big problem, also I think that Ineos did a great job for a brand new on the market car and shouldn’t get stuck of some of its problems that have to be sold. Give it a chance and honestly, how many new honest off-roaders are built today?
definitely illl be considering this and a LC300 after my fortuner
Mihe had the ABS ring failed at 18k. After 2 months at the dealership, they managed to fix it without replacing the whole car.
My main problem I can’t get diffs on tap when I need them most always holding up people trying to them in engaged.
It’s going back Friday as there is a loud clunking noise when going over speed bumps and also slowing down etc.
@aggitravel i'd bet odds on the clunking is your steering damper and arm. Grab the connecting bolt in the middle, pull it forward hard, it rotates and clunck/rings, now push it back hard, it again rotates and clunks/rings
@@aggitravelcheck out the steering shock absorber’s cover. If it’s loose, just wrap a piece of these u shape rubbers with metallic inner insert (you know the ones used to cover the edges of the bumpers or the chopped fenders) around the edge of the cover. Cheap and effective solution.
@@aggitravel re diffs. if you have upfated software, which I imaging you have, it's a single press, not double like it was when it come out
@@aggitravel Check the abs ring in the rear for small stones trapped in the shield.
A nice way of saying I won't buy it. Good review.
Thanks for very valuable insight. I wish you could do similar sort of project with new defender 110. I think that is one of the overlooked vehicle and deserve your valuable insight
Great review, love your view on cars like this.
WIll try to order a Quartermaster next year!
I’m 6’4”, got into it, drove around the block, and got out again with a sore left hip.
I’ll stick with the D4. It goes anywhere and I’ve ever been more comfortable.
*never 😉
33k kms down so far - epic product for cross Europe touring and off-roading
Family car, fun escape and thoroughly capable
Impressive testing, great video!
Mr Ronny D, I luv your vids cause they're absolutely DTE, honest and informative. I would love to go 4WDing with ya mate and pick your brains and experience. My GU is a POS but slowly as budget permits I am doing her up to be a beast. Keep up the great vid and honest reviews mate
i think the next iteration will be really good if they listen to people. Unfortunately i think a lot of the smaller annoyances are due to regulations and safety and net zero nonsense so they won't be able to stop that.
Isn’t that the reason why you sold the LC79… to replace it with an Ineos Granadier ute version 😂 thanks Ron, great series mate!!
I’m gutted that this vehicle is outta my price point.
My grandfather had an old series 2 Landrover that he adored but when he past away it was stripped and sold for parts. What I’d give to be able to drive that now wouldn’t be short of my kidneys and right arm but I won’t touch a modern Landy, but these ineos’s have been my literal perfect since I first heard about there development. I even visited the Seymour show for the last 4 years or so just to see and sit in them😂 I know it’s pathetic but they are so damn nostalgic it’s not funny!
Thanks for the epic review, watching your videos on the ineos has made me a happy man!
Great video, even the bots approve!
Its been a great series on the Grenadier, loved it. But I thought there was one thing missing and for me, and many others, it would have been towing capabilities.
Would loved to have seen a review on that aspect. Cheers
I recently completed a 25,000km trip around northern Australia starting and finishing in Perth.
I did see a few Grenadiers around the cities but very few (almost none) in the more remote areas (Queensland/NT).
After watching this video I can only conclude that it is not the capability of the vehicle that makes it hard to use in these areas, but the range.
I think I saw some underbody shots of the grenadier and it all looked pretty packed in with little space to install a proper long range fuel tank.
The external tanks are a solution I guess, but as you said in the video they created extra work and personally I would not like the look of those things stuck on the outside.
I would also be concerned about them falling off or failing physically, which could lead to very serious consequences away from other refuelling options.
They already released from Brown a long range tank adding another 68L
Ronny! Thanks for another great vid. I know you can’t help me here but I’m sure others may offer opinions haha. I’m stuck deciding between a used G wagon (2015-17, depending on trim & km) or a Grenny in magic mushroom! Light off roading, not a daily, hauling dogs, trails, will tow, looking for character & fun. Ideally holding on to it for some time. Help! 😂
Well done. Bull S*** free opinions. Thanks for the journey. Loved it!.
Incredible machine. Mines never let me down even in the harshest conditions in Iraq and Afghanistan. I prefer it over the H1
All over, an excellent review
A completely underrated car that won't sell because it doesn't have T on the front
Must be missing or not seen all the probs with current t's. Hope you come to your senses soon
15'
15,000 sold in Australia so far
15 thousand Grenadiers?@@michaelneville3455
I’m 30000 in and just got the LR fuel tank through brown Davis. It’s not perfect and needs some R+D and my mechanic whinged a bit, but it’s completely changed the game. Over 1000 to a tank now and I’m pretty heavy on the gas (about 16-17L/100km).
9:40 Ronny, the wipers are RHD. The issue is identical for LHD, it's cause by the geometry. The pivot points need to be closer to the drivers position. A really annoying design flaw.
7:20 yeah I really wish if it had a built in huge tank I. E some Toyota vehicles have 180L tanks others have optional 159L (fj cruiser) 153L (LC150) or fordF150 which also got a huge tank
Unfortunately not true for the LC150. If it has KDSS - which most do have - then space restriction is very bad for the extra fuel tank. Only about 35L could be added and they cost still a lot to modify (around 4K Euros here in Europe) making it usually not worth the money unless you can install and vet it yourself.
Also if you can pick up and ex demo or used. You are on a winner.
I saw a grenadier in the parking lot recently. I must say, it looks like it means business!!!!
What it looks like, is a Defender. 😂
@@MudOilnGears .That was the whole idea!!
Has it been sold yet?
I test drove one in London today. It was beautiful, I sat very high up, it was very comfortable and it felt like I imagine what driving a tank would feel. Two insurmountable obstacles for my were 1. The awful turning circle - surely this could be made tighter. 2. No satnav - what? With constantly changing road conditions all over the uk we need information on alternative routes all the time. And finally, there are some changes to the taxation of Chelsea tractors which are going to add many thousands of pounds to the cost of these beautiful vehicles. I loved the look, I loved the drive but those two problems made purchase impossible.
Apple car play is better than any satnav I have used. It’s always up to date and traffic data is live. Plus you can use any phone mapping app like Gaia gps. It works well.
you don't want sat nav built into your vehicle by the manufacturer. they rarely get updates and are obsolete quickly. far better off having an aftermarket stand alone one that's better from the start.
Offroad vehicles don’t generally have tight turning circles and London is hardly the intended domain of this vehicle - LR Defender is what you’re after.
Sat Nav you can get when your phone is paired with the head unit. Steering can be adjusted, some owners have wound the limiting bolt on the diff to make it turn tighter.
@@pantoqwertyin practice the people with the money to buy these vehicles will spend a fair amount of time tooling around in west London. Thanks for the observations.
So, Ronny what was the tire comparison to your LC? If you upsized the tires, would have it got stuck.
What chair are you siting on at camp Ronny?
Toyota all day long ❤
Impressive and informative videos. Appreciate it. Thanks. Wondered about the after sales service though eg parts and aftermarket since it is unique production vehicle, unlike Toyota that have parts and aftermarket everywhere
And don't forget to mention that the weight of the vehicle gives you the improved pay load when compared to others. It's a tough 4x4 by all measures from what I've seen.
The weight of the vehicle reduces the payload when you have a set GVM figure to hit?
I was really hoping for a review on how it went towing a caravan, especially considering it is up against Cruisers, the 76/79 series and even Patrols.
Dad used to call them
" Escape Wagon's"
The Name is very
Volatile .
I hope they have American Variants .
I'de pay extra for the Amphibian package
Great series Ronny, but the 64 thousand dollar question...if could only have one vehicle and same budget to spend...what would you buy ?
Aside from the vehicle, was it easy to get it and test drive from the company?
The cooling of the B57 in the hot Australian conditions I think will be its medium to long-term issue.
Hey Ronny! Did you have any issues with the software? Many other customers have issues with software. And how was it with the front big radiator? Many drivers get it crushed on the bottom. How was is it for you?
I have a very heavily modified 4Runner, I am in the US and it’s our best option. I started building out the truck as soon as I purchased it new, this was the plan for it when I bought it. I still have to admit it is very scary to drill holes in the roof for lighting and power to a tent and power in from solar. I did it right with extremely good cable glands but there is no going back from this type of mod. The same goes for a raised air intake, I have no regrets but not having to do this would be awesome. The first rumblings about the Grenadier came to light just before I bought my truck I considered waiting but decided not to because it wasn’t even a sure thing at this time. Very glad I didn’t wait because the diesel ended up not being sold here. The fuel issue would be compounded with gas. Still a really cool truck but I will stick with my tried and true Toyotas. Cheers
We traded our Four Runner for a Grenadier. Light years ahead of a 4 Runner. Fuel range? I have only done one trip across multiple states off road, and did not have a jerry can mount or anything yet and went days. With long range tanks coming out, that can be fixed easily. The 4 runner, on the other hand has so many limitations and is hard to modify.
Saw a Quartermaster the other day. If I was shopping around for a 6 figure 4wd it would be pretty hard to walk past it
Better then a any other new 4x4
I am surprised you don't addressed the notorious turning radius
Bought one because of your reviews- I did a test drive obv but this thing looks like it will handle it all
I am definitely going to f to add a bigger tank though
Looks like a great car. My only complaint, I cant afford one :)
I am bit suprised that he didnt adress the terrible turning ratio and the wiggly steering on normal road!. Whit that ssid though, super impressive first car build, almost unheard off to get so little problems with a first model build.
Ineos clearly helped Ronny on what to say and report on. Ineos always have control on output.
The new Prado is about the same at 2.5 - 2.60 tons. They're only going to get heavier when they all have large batteries
Not only large batteries. All the “safety tech” that are mandatory are adding more and more weight also.
In the case of the grenadier, the frame is just too massive (you would not believe how think the walls and the cross members are) also the axles are pretty heavy but also duty
interesting that the design team didn't give a crap about fuel range...
68L tank?? Crazy!
Those negatives would turn me off tbh, I'll stick with the 76.
Good review
Its everything the Land Rover Defender should have been to continue its legacy, instead of becoming a "Chelsea tractor". I am sure there are things we will see Ineos change and improve on as models get updated, but as a first car from a company that has never made a vehicle before - its awesome. Nice review Ronny.
lmao these comments. Do you know how many Defenders LR have been selling? They’ve absolutely knocked it out of the park with a very desirable and very capable 4WD that wouldn’t be the case if they had done what a few people say that it ‘it should have been’ otherwise. It’s cool that the Grenadier exists for people who love the old Defender to get something new but it’s completely ignorant to say that the Defender brand has somehow failed.
@ And do you know the percentage that have spent more than 3 weeks having major warranty repairs done - over 36% according to stats from JLR themselves. That really is not good for a vehicle like this.
Thought about it. Full-time 4x4 takes away the fun down though.
I wish Toyota would copy the Grenadier's prewired switch block and plug setup on their Land Cruisers and 4Runners; at least on the TRD/Trail trims.
Bring a single cab out ill buy one
Wish we could get the diesel here in America
This thing is tougher than a 70 series, and a lot more comfortable.
Many thanks for this, I have been eagerly awaiting this review and now the question remains… should I upgrade to the ineos grenadier from my 2014 LR defender 110 2.2 ??