Horizon Hobby - Night Timber X 1.2m - Unbox, Build, Setup, & Maiden Flights
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I watched this video twice because my wife bought this plane for me for Christmas and I won’t to get it right. “Thank You” very much you did a great job. ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Glad I could help! Thanks for coming back for more William!!!
Amazon and Horizon Hobby have it on sale for $299 so I pulled the trigger on it.
Your videos are incredibly helpful as I’ll be following this one along in my build next week.
Thank you for making awesome content Brian!
Been waiting for this vid release,lol.Got mine 2 weeks ago and the winds on the east coast haven't allowed me a maiden yet.Saw on another vid if you move power wires under the battery tray and bring them out the front makes that battery install a lot easier,I have a 3500 4s in mine just waiting to go.Thanks Brian for all your help and another great video,Rick from Delaware
I will try that next time I take her out!!! Thanks Richard!
Could you provide a link to that video. I'm not sure what you mean.
once again another popular RC airplane review, excellently recorded and edited with much needed informational posted links....... Brain's entertaining and easy to understand commentary is the best that can be found on the internet.....his honest flight reviews, unboxing, assembly and general knowledge is better than the RC dealers and distributers ......
Thank you very much Gary! We appreciate your kind words, and glad we can be of assistance ;)
Love your new flying field (the previous having a bit more of that typical restrictive, subdivision look about it, as I recall)!
After wanting a sport foamy for more spirited flying & aerobatics, yet liking the 1.55m Timber's STOL & flexible gear for grassy park flying, am looking forward to the Night Timber X -- currently on order! Was difficult to pull off a roll or even inverted flight w/the original, but nice not having to travel to my club's busy field for a quick flight. Your video helped convince me the Timber X can do both quite well. Enjoyed your build & setup. Your wife (or camera crew) is so patient -- a really good sport! Thx for the fun!
Thanks so much! You will love it if you want to be able to roll quicker...this thing is CRAZY!!!
Was a little confusing going back and forth on the throttle reverse. Other then that thank you so much for taking the time and getting down. Thing rips!!!!!! Thanks to the camera crew as well!
Update: I was only confused cause if you remember in the ultimate 3D you put reverse on A switch. I had it on a switch but I couldn’t assign safe to switch B it was free but was having a hard time. so I just followed your instructions and it worked great maiden’ed like a Champ. Thank you once again Brian and camera crew!! You guys rock!!
AWESOME - Glad you got her figured out! All I can say is, BE CAREFUL with that Reverse feature...it's a scary thing to do!!!
Brian you’re an excellent teacher when it comes to the build and you’re flying techniques, and camera crew you do an excellent job also. 🌴😎🌴
Very welcome William! Are you about caught up??? I just say the number earlier today, something like 1360 videos??? I know you're working on watching all of them, but I keep putting out new stuff to try and run up your buffer ;)
It’s a great plane. I have all of them and love flying each of them. I used the timber x as my trainer plane when I started flying in the summer of 2018. They are my some of my most favorite planes to fly. Great videos and great information. Keep up the great work!
Really?!?!? You must be a NATURAL!!! This plane is touchy - Congrats Clay!
Thank you. I’m not a natural just used safe a whole lot, lol!!!
Hey Bri. good to see your interaction with your son - teach him early and he will be an ace - good job
Thank you. He's a smart kid, and very quick learner. It's very hard to get kids today to stick to anything, as they have such a short attention span, but if he wants to do this, he'll have no excuse but to find success, and I hope he does ;)
A cool option I did with mine; Flaperons. Then you have really crazy ailerons across the whole wing...but when you need flaps, you still have them available. As usual, thanks for what you and the little bride do for the hobby.
I suspect this thing turns like a top with full length flapperons, right?!?!
I just saw your horizon hangout video, I left a comment.. you da man, I see good things in your future with horizon!! Congrats!
Much appreciated! Thanks Ty - I've been fighting for 5+ years for this ;) Now I can finally do it...still loads of work, and still find that reviewing a ton of planes has a strange side effect of making me so busy, I sometimes forget to enjoy it ;)
You have a lovely place and that landing strip is sooooo smooth - good job
Thanks Brian! We love it here, and have worked very hard to get her, an are working very hard to stay here, but it's all worth it!!!
OK you convinced me I have one on the way going to be here Wednesday can’t wait I’m new to flying but I was a drone pilot still am but after learning to fly the plane is so much more fun I wouldn’t have never believe it was that much fun having a blast can’t wait to move to the next level 👍
Nice! Good luck ;)
Mine is coming into my local hobby store this week! Great video again!
Good luck!
I think actually you did show case this plane really well as it gives more average flyers like myself a much better understanding of what to realistically expect. And yes, for the vast majority of us even though this can be a very easy plane to fly, the SAFE switch can certainly be your best friend as this plane seems to encourage the pilot to push his or her own limits.
True! Glad you agree :) I love to see an "expert" like Horizon Hobby Sponsored Professional RC pilots just as much as the next guy, but that can quickly give you an inferiority complex ;) LOL That's why they have me - LOL :)
Thanks JJ S!
Man if i could fly half as well as you I would be happy!
Brian. Got this one a week ago. Awesome plane. All the features this one has makes up for the bottom battery installation- that’s the only thing that keeps this from being the perfect specimen from Horizon. Other than that-just beautiful. I was amazed at the 4s power.....I believe I may have to pick up another 1 for back up....If you know what I’m thinking....lol. I was playing hard with the original Eflite Timber and decided to plow the field with it while it was inverted. I liked that plane, and salvaged most of the electronics but never replaced it...I love planes that have lights. When the Night Timber came out-had to have it. I don’t do 3D either-at least not on purpose...haha. Oh-If you not heard already-some folks have experienced some control rods popping loose from the control horns. I highly adding some fuel tubing to all the ones for the wings-especially the way you fly-if you not already thought of it. Enjoyed this video. Kudos to the Camera Crew. 🔥🔥👊👊😉
I totally agree about that bottom access for the lipo....but it is what it is ;) The lights are good enough that you can actually tell what direction you're moving, and the orb of light on the ground it fantastic!!!
thank you very much Brian, I think i will not complete build of this plane without your advice :D its amazing plane, i can not wait for my maiden flight :D
Glad you came along for the ride! thanks
Great job as always Brian and camera crew, looks like a really fun plane to fly, especially at night, thanks for sharing 👍🏼👍🏼👊🏼👊🏼
Thanks Jeff ;)
beautiful house, love the view out the window
Thanks SlowFlyers! Megan and I designed and built this house, and a big part of this was pointing the house the direction it is. We can sit on the front cap (porch) and watch a beautiful sunset, OR we can sit on the back DECK and watch the sunset too ;) This was a big part of our plans. We started on a paint drawing and later worked with an architect and refined the plans for 10 or so major revisions (might have been 8???). We're very happy with the results.
Wow, I need one. Thank you guys.
New pic G Bro!??!?!
A excellent fun plane to fly. The only two negatives I encountered with my Timber X,(not the night version ), were the tailwheel was set at 45 degrees to the neutral rudder position which I very carefully used a screwdriver to straighten. The second was the foam is dented in under the front cockpit plastic piece.
I installed the metal spar in the tail right from the start as I intended to mainly use 4 cell batteries. I flew the first flight on a windy day, ( always windy where I live in Australia) and found it handled the wind no problem. Dropping the flaps in the wind is like slamming on the brakes and is a lot of fun.
Due to the large amount of control surface movement, even with safe on a beginner would find it a handful.
One thing I would suggest is to have spare props on hand in case of tipping on the nose. The plastic on the wingtips certainly saves the wings if it tips over. It is by far my most favourite plane. Trying to get club members interested in doing STOL spot landing competitions.
Enjoy watching your videos. Keep them coming.
I hate when there's little stuff screwed up on unboxing - super annoying!!! Sounds like you love it. I want to maybe put on the slats, just because I want them on there for looks ;)
It might take some of the edge of it’s manoeuvres but if hot glued on should be easier to remove than if superglued.
I do enjoy flying it. I also have the 1.2 Mustang June Nite and the Viper. Figured if I could handle the Timber X, I should have no problems with the other two. Unfortunately planes here are double the price you guys pay due to the exchange rate so crashing is not an option.
Oh man. I had sworn off buying any new models until I've fully moved my son off to college in a few weeks. I've watched so many reviews and flights on this thing and resisted the urge until now. You pushed me over the edge. Priorities are in perfect order. Do college students need towels and dishes? Nah.
Right on! College can always wait - LOL!!!!!
You can think of me when you're skipping mean - LOL!!! At least you'll be happy flying ;)
Thanks for checking out my thoughts on it, as I know I wasn't the first guy on this one for sure!!!
Been watching your videos for a bit now. Definitely getting the Night Timber X after watching the night flight. Going to light up the sky in northern Iowa
Have fun! I'll be looking for it ;)
Outstanding video, as always. You say you aren't a 3d pilot, but no need to be humble, you've got skills. All 3d is is some hovering and harriers and mixing those sticks around. Thanks again.
Thank you David, but 3D flying is a skill I'm not super familiar with. I have much respect for those guys who can tip their tail feathers on the ground and do it about 3 feet from their nose!!!! Also, heli pilots that can make it look like a rag-doll, not my cup of tea, and don't have any interest in doing it either...but I have a growing appreciation for different styles of flight. My style is scale flying. I LOVE watching planes fly.
Wow looks beautiful when you fly it in sunset.
Totally Agree!
Love this video. Of all your videos this is probably my favorite. The sunset, plane and fireflies are all amazing. Curious to know if you’re still enjoying and flying this plane.
I would love to see a second thoughts but I get that your up to your ears in new planes and more current planes. Thanks again for the great content!
Thanks Derek! We can try to get it back in the rotation.
Yeah, sunset flights are just a necessary evil for us ;) We seem to get a calm before evening in the summer, so we kinda have almost no choice, and we do love the way it looks at "golden hour" although, we do occasionally get some bad back lighting as a result.
Great educational video jusy picked up that plane and followed ur steps exact and it flies perfect even on a 6 channel radio which they say won't work and it will
Awesome, and thanks!
Just bought one of these yesterday, my 2nd plane. It'll be here Tuesday and hopefully not crashed by Wednesday 🤠
Sweet, good luck!
How long did you make it until your first crash?
Considering all the work you did, did a great job ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ 👍🏻
Thank you 🤗
Great video. Just got mine. 👍
On the left side the + wire for lights was to the rear. On the right side of mine the + positive wire was to the front.
okay...I'll take your word for it. I can't remember.
FYI: When I built mine, I found that the internal control horn set-screw for the rudder control wire was a bit loose and while the rudder was likely well aligned at the factory, when I was assembling it the setting moved. I'd suggest after you setup the radio but before you install the wing, you recheck that the rudder and elevator are centered with the radio on (zero trim settings) and then torque down that set screw! Otherwise, you likely will have a "bad day"! Doing the wire bundle zip-ties that Brian recommends is also very smart!
Loose screws can lead to a bad day, for sure!
Brian your a good pilot, knowledgeable in an awful lot, hope you don't mind a tip, all epf foam planes when unboxed for the first time you really should ( flex ) or exercise hinges on ailerons, flaps, elevator and ruder. This allows easier movement and less ware on servos
True! Great idea, and I should!!! Thanks Don
Great price also. Crazy Mode.......he he The new grass is looking good. Love the springs on the landing gear. Just Love the lights.
Yeah! Thanks Tim!
I'm so appreciative of these videos, I just got the timber x wich is pretty much the same and these complicated transmitter setups use to require a call to HH to figure out. You would think I'd catch on eventually but its great to follow along with your videos. P.S. love the home runway. I farm for a living and we are extremely fortunate to be able to walk out of the house and fly! Love the equipment videos too, as long as the tractors stay green that is🤣.
Totally agree - living in the country is awesome, but it's also a LOAD of work, and super expensive!!! I wouldn't have it any other way knowing what I know now.
What do you farm, out of curiosity?
@@BrianPhillipsRC I'm in the thumb of Michigan. We farm wheat,corn,sugar beets,soybeans, and edible beans such as blacks, reds and navy's. I dont make as much $ as I'd like some years with low commodity and increasing equipment prices but the lifestyle and living in the country makes up for it. I couldn't imagine having to go drive somewhere to fly my planes. The air tractor is next on my list. I watch the same plane spray all the time and I gotta have one!
Flies like a dream!!!
It's Esteban, the great!!!
Just got mine and I have to say it’s not what I expected but it’s only day one so I’ll give it time before I truly pass judgment. It’s fun for sure but so finicky, I think I prefer the evolution but mine is down waiting on back ordered parts. The motor burned up because a bearing went out on flight 20. Got so hot it melted the plastic where the motor mount ties into the fuselage. Horizon is taking care of me and sending the parts free of charge but still disappointed because they are on back order and the tentative date is another month away. I’m going to play with the metal rod on the timber X versus the carbon fiber one. But enjoy the donation for selling me on another plane from horizon 🤦♂️. Love the channel, keep up the great work.
I love my 1.5m best of all of them. BUT this one has got the edge at night. Sorry you had a bad bearing...that sucks...but glad to hear Horizon Hobby is gonna make it right - this is why we like working with HH.
Thanks Matt for sharing.
Good video, the photography is outstanding.
Thank you!!!
Now thats a great model bigger wheels are so good for grass takeoffs/ landing I am just getting back into the Hobby now retired more time... - I must get that one as soon as senior management (your camera crew) is on side.
yep
I'm watching to see how big the box is.... Yep, I'm buying this at Fast Track in Rocklin, Ca. Tomorrow, while I'm working here. It will be leaving with me in my car, back home to northern Utah for my off work days 🤠
Sweet!
Thanks for the time and effort you put into this video. I have been looking everywhere for what size prop I need to switch to 4s.
Very welcome!
It was nice to meet you on the horizon hang out that is when I sub to you. Night flying is fun. I have not done much 3d flying lately, mostly jets.
I've been seeing you around these parts for years, I thought, Victor...but either way, thanks for finally coming abort formally ;) That Live event was a bit different for me, but since I was on vacation that week from my day job, I had lots of time tied up with RC stuff. I have quite a backlog of planes to review, and that's the way I like it :)
Just Bought it (Night Timber) and some batteries for the A-10 today from your link:) 4X points today for RC Club members. Love you guys!
AWESOME! Glad you did (sorry I'm so slow with replying)
You are a busy family, keep up the great content 😊
Excellent job Brian and crew really good 👍🐓
Thanks! This plane was a hand full, and loads of fun to fly too!
I use some double stick tape and stuck the bind plug underneath where that vent is so you can always get to it with the wings being secured and then you don’t have to remove them to rebind it.
Nice! good idea!
I just learned why you remove the prop while programming. Just got home from getting 20 stitches in the palm of my hand.... haha I’m so stupid sometimes. One thing is for sure, I won’t make that mistake again. The part at 1 hour and 58 min is where I get lost. “We will obviously keep our hands out of the prop area during motor reversing cause we don’t need hand chopping” this totally applies to dummies like me.
Ouch!!! I've been lucky to only been bit by UMX planes, but this plane would be no-fun!!!
Brian Phillips it was no fun. Those props are sharp. Btw, greAt videos, I am still trying to program my dx8 g2 transmitter and can’t get the reverse programmed correctly. Which is why it went full throttle at the idle position. Any advice would be great since I almost threw it across the room after the prop cut me open. I followed your video tutorial, but I must have screwed something up.. I get lost when you disable the gear or something. Is gear safe mode and aux 2 reverse motor mode? Gonna take a couple days to regroup and lick my wounds haha. Great videos you and you wife post. I have binge watched a bunch. I look forward to more videos! Should I Inhibit aux2 or gear? Do you set up high and low rates and did you set up the blending to use the flaps and ailerons at same time?
Hello Brian and Mrs Megan aka camera crew, thats a super cool plane. Was at the field today and seen it fly itwas awesome. Plane flys very well. Very capable of extreme flights. Awesome video as always well done. Thank you for your video keep flying you guys. Just having fun RC'n with friends and family members.
Very cool! Thanks again!
thanks for your videos! Like them. Greetings from Munich/Germany
Glad you like them! Thanks Kai San - from the USA ;)
@@BrianPhillipsRC Brian would you recommend the su-30 as my first jet?
Still loving the Night Timber X. Great suggestion!
Glad you love it!
You're a ninja setting up that transmitter! I thought adding some lifegear glowsticks to my wings was cool but the rig is epic!
It glows like an angel - why add more??? This is coming from the guy who puts led's on EVERYTHING - LOL ;)
@@BrianPhillipsRC what if you painted the plane with black light reactive paint and added black light LEDs?
The sunset flight looked pretty cool
yeah! Love seeing the sunset with this plane in particular. We wanted to show it at twilight and in the dark, but as you surely noticed, the video quality slips a lot in the dark.
Took a hiatus from flying the Apprentice from a shoulder/arm injury during a rainy workday at the club field - slipped and fell directly on right shoulder HARD! That was some 4 months ago. During that time I took the plane apart, stripped off the decals and am painting it to resemble the Cessna Skyhawk that I owned for seven years. At this week's swap meet I bought a BNF Night Timber 1.2 for a great price planning to take it with me on a 1 month plus camping road trip - smaller size to help with storage. Could be easy to fly with SAFE/AS3X. Should be back to flying this April.
New fan Brian. Just ordered mine to satisfy my want for 3D and will only be flying it on a 4 cell, because I love speed.
This plane needs power to perform, so agreed, 4S is the ONLY way to go on a 3D ;)
@@BrianPhillipsRC If you think the Timber X is too easy to fly you would never believe how easy the the 1.5m Timber was to fly. I am such a good pilot that I am bored flying the 1.5m because it’s too easy to fly. It only flys on a 3s and the rolling and pitch is poor on it. I am selling it to someone in need of a trainer and I just finished assembling and binding my Night Timber X.
Well Brian, I hate to say it but I was glad to see the Timber X nosing over and bouncing on landings, I have the exact same experience. Being with only 4 months of RC Flying, the Timber X was a handful. If you can fly it comfortably without SAFE, you can fly about anything. The thing is so responsive it's amazing. You can invent aerobatics with that sucker. Looking forward to your night flight
Bill
It's in this video ;)
Brian Phillips I saw it. Man that thing looks wild all lit up over the vampire death site
Been watching your vids for over a year now. Found you with your UMX Timber series. Have really enjoyed watching. One thing that would greatly help my enjoyment IMHO would be for you to wear a wireless lavalier mic. It would help eliminate the "boominess" and reverb when in your kitchen. It would help us to hear you better when you're outside and you turn away from the camera mic. Compliments to the camera crew for the great camera work following you flights and keeping the subject in frame. Kudos to a great husband and wife team!
I have heard this before, and it is on the docket. I have to say, we feel bad that we haven't yet made the relatively small investment ($250ish), but I've been reluctant, as it adds yet another layer of BS to deal with in filming...BUT, we are planning to do it. I just hope you'll hang in there until we take the plunge ;)
@@BrianPhillipsRC Every piece of equipment adds more complexity. I come from an audio-visual background so I understand. Keep covering the cool toys! I'll keep watching and enjoying!
Super nice review, i will totaly buy this. I have been flying for one Year now. 😁👌
Enjoy! It's a HANDFULL, so be prepared!!!
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Super i will I saw you have same radio as me, a Dx18 just love that radio. 🌞😁👌
🔥AWESOME🔥
That is a BEAUTIFUL plane Love Love Love the lights Little bit of lights on the runway and you could definitely fly that in pitch dark
You up for the challenge Brian 🤔🙄 lol Id love to see it 👍✌️
It was pretty much dark, but the camera makes it look bright still ;)
Really hard to film in the dark, but in persona it's something of beauty!!!
Cream always rises to the top. Dont push them too hard, just nudge. He will watch his dad and learn from he things you do well also the things you do not so well. Its all education. He will do well and learn to apply himself, we were kids once, and I remember the world being an exiting place and so much to fit in. At that age your mind is a jack in the box.
Yes. It's hard in the moment to see the forest through the trees.
Great video and so nice hearing you and wife talking. As I just got a Timber X I realized I should have bought the Night Timber X instead. Damn!
Thanks! I agree with your concern regarding the Timber X...why not Night X. Still a great plane!
@@BrianPhillipsRC I bite the bullet and order a Night Timber X also.
What a great night for a video guys! This plane has not caught my eye till now, I think I may need this one.........its a sickness
Yes, it is, and I have it bad!!!
You really know how to fly that plane!
I'm glad you think so! I feel inferior as a pilot with this plane. It's a beauty, but I'm just not a great 3D pilot.
I fly my umx timber at night the nav lights on it are pretty cool.
For sure!
Just got mine!
Nice! Enjoy!!!
Thanks man, Awesome !
You bet!
Good 3 d flying... that battery was p.off at you....good recovery to bring it back. Had to watch again as I'm stuck on ur ch.again . Very informative 👏 Brian,wife.
Glad you're here with us Crazy Aces ;)
Thanks for your quick reply. The plane is a BNF and has the AR637TA, and I built from a blank profile, starting with the same settings as our other Timber X, but I changed some things. Then I tried the two downloads available from Spektrums website mentioned earlier.
I agree and thought that the AS3X is supposed to always be on, which is why I was wondering what is possibly wrong or if I some how conflicted it off or something. Our other Timber X, is also the 1.2M, basically same plane except it has the AR636A reciever and I like that it's touchy. It flys great, with both the iX12 and DX6 (Gen2). That is why I bought the Night Timber, because of how well the our other Timber X 1.2 flys in variable wind conditions, so my wife and I can fly together, with basically the same plane. Perfect manageable size too! I will compare the settings between the two again lol.
I made a mistake saying I was using the 4S 5000mAh batteries, that was wrong, We actually use 3S 30C & 4S 50C 3200mAh's.
Thanks again, I glad to hear it confirmed that the AS3X is always on and can't be turned off with the AR637TA receiver. Now I know it is something with my settings and I'll work on that.
With the AR637T you CAN access "Forward Programming" to turn it up or down, or off....but at this firmware level of the AR637TA, you're STUCK :(... I think the answer I got from HH is that there MIGHT be a firmware upgrade for the TA :) :) ;)
@@BrianPhillipsRC I hope so. It would be nice to be able to adjust. I'm starting the transmitter setup again for about the tenth time. I tried the original Timber setup too, didn't work. One flap servo started to jitter and won't stop even after holding it, and now the other servo's on the wing are following suit. I still have a lot to learn lol. Both the Carbon Z Cub 2.1 and the other Timber X 2.1 setup perfectly the first time other than one bad servo that got replaced.
Another great video Brian! Well Done Camera Crew! This plane will be in my Hangar eventually
It's handful! Have fun!
Nice flight 👍
Thanks 👍
Good job Brian
Thanks ;)
Hi Brian,
At around 1:59 you wondered about the A switch on the IX12. I have the IX12 and the A switch is a 2 position. I setup safe on that switch. I also tried to do the advanced setup but had problems with the left aileron not going the same direction as the others. Decided to revert it back to standard setup and in the process I had two spare servo extensions. As it was necessary to re-bind the plane I plugged one servo extension into the bind port to make it easier to plug in the bind plug. I didn’t run it through to the battery area but I think it would reach. I also deleted the model on the transmitter and started with a fresh setup.
The battery straps are starting to stretch now so I will be fixing that problem shortly.
I found it odd that they didn’t supply two servo extensions to do the advanced setup. At the time I purchased the plane the extensions weren’t available here.
The IX12 is a great transmitter and I’m glad I bought it when I did. A very capable transmitter. The IX20 has way more features (sorry camera crew!).
LOL - I look forward to my new IX20, just as soon as I have almost everything else done around the property....
Outbuilding
Shop finished
Basement finished
Pond installed
Trees planted
Mini excavator purchased
...then the IX20 ;) LOL
Great detail Brian, love your informative breakdown, I just bought one and I have 6 channel transmitter, if I don't connect the flaps will it still fly well?
That's a HUGE part of this plane, but you can for sure fly it without flaps - I would NEVER do that....but I'm a flaps snob.
Had to double check the build. When I was done I had a separate bag left over with three 5mm screws. Also had defective Y-Harness, receiver to ailerons. Big shout out to Mike at Horizon, he treated me well for the inconvenience.
Horizon takes care of their customers!!! I've been there enough times to know, and this is most definitely NOT industry standard. This was one of many reasons why we choose to work with Horizon Hobby!
I think we almost always use all but ONE of a type on our Horizon Hobby models.
Nice bro might be my next plane lol but I already have the plain turbo timber so not sure yet!!! And was good to see you on FB with Jason and Steve about time horizon did that like I said on there your the only pilot I watch on RUclips for reviews... happy flying
I'm glad I have you hypnotized ;) Now, buy more RC planes from the links - JK, we really appreciate you saying these things, and in front of Horizon Hobby is a definite bonus!!! We have such a great audience!
Brian Phillips well from what I can see your a good guy just showing the people in the hobby what it’s really about and don’t sugar coat anything and yes I wait until you review a plane before I buy. Wish you got the MotionRC airliner I have it and think you will love it, but I believe horizon has one up there sleeve as well. Stay safe bud you and yours and safe flying!!!! Looking forward to your next video.
Awesome upload Brain..great camera work..💯❤❤❤💯 1000+ likes too both 👊👊👍
Much appreciated, thanks!!!!
Awesome! Eachine mini F4U Corsair next. 😁
Coming soon!
You did a very good job on the video. A plus I. Did get one
Thanks James! I'm glad you enjoyed it. I don't fancy myself much of a 3D pilot, but I do like this plane. It's a "light bulb", as one of my commenters suggested, so it's very nice for night flying!!!
Thank u
You're welcome Luke!
I bought this after watching your video 🤙🏼
Nice!! Thanks - I bet you're gonna love it! Reverse thrust will be cause fro a change of drawers, so plan for that when you use it mid-air the first time!!!!
@@BrianPhillipsRC i dig your videos, really helpful. Thanks! Mine came with a glitchy vibrating aileron servo that gave out on the second flight , i hit up horizon kinda bummed but the plane is durable for sure ha
Got the standard X, Turbo and the little UMX version and to my mind these X versions are the the best. It does everything the bigger span Turbo version can do and even more.
When you consider you can then do it all off water as well, I wonder if this new night version now takes the title from the standard X of having the widest flight envelope of any RC plane ever made?
Stock, possibly ;) I love the plane, but dedicated stick time, with one plane, is a struggle I have of late - as you can imagine...so I think this one will "blossom" to a favorite, if I get time to fly her a lot!
Pure fun right there! Not a 3D pilot my fanny! Your owning that thing!
I promise, I'm not ;) So many more skilled 3D pilots out there - WAY more skilled too - but I like flying them :)
I just caught your ‘here’s how I store my planes’ (which was great and instructive) and during that video you mentioned you wished you had installed the slats. Will you do so in a follow up to see how much it degrades aerobatic performance? I have not done so on mind but think it might go far to reducing a stall tendency which has happened to me twice, once at low altitude and I did not react fast enough to keep its nose out of the ground. Broke the prop but all else was fine. Could only get an APC prop and they don’t work with the spinner.
I didn't install the slats, and don't have plans to do it on this particular plane. If you just caught that plane storage video, you wouldn't believe how many more planes are sitting down there now!!! It's getting crazy!
Brian i have a question about battery placement and center of gravity? I'm going to be using the 2200 mah 4s smart packs and my 3s 3200 mah non smart packs. I put the carbon fiber rod in the tail not the steel. On my cg machine its showing me the plane is nose heavy and to place the packs as far back as possible to get the nose close to level. Looking at your placement in the video looks like your packs are closer to center to where you can use both straps on your battery or the battery slid while you were flying? Any advise?
Good question. I might have marked this plane with my "old method" which can slightly alter the CG marks. I HAD been using a flap piece of paper and following the contour of the wing....I was later corrected in that it's supposed to be a straight line measured back to that point. HOWEVER, I think the CG was marked on the bottom of the wing on this plane, therefore I doubt I did that mistake on this plane...
Here's what I can say for sure...
CG is highly forgiving on this plane. You'll be pitching up and down like a maniac, so I'd encourage you to get the pack in there and not dwell on it. This plane will fly in a badly tail heavy configuration, but I'd try to hit the middle of the range at first.
My two cents ;)
I cant wait to get this!! The PREFECT Timber a side from the fact they STILL haven't designed a Top side battery Compartment....but The Timber is still PERFECT the way she is. Awsome video as usual Sir.....I thought about trying to make a battery Compartment similar to the UMX Timber.
I think they should have a cavity into the windscreen area, but still really like this plane, and it's a GREAT, very capable flyer.
Fantastic thanks
You're welcome!!!
I have a couple years of experience . I stop fly for a while and this is my first year back. The super cub lp was my first !!!!!!!!!! Was my first and aero scout looks to be the best thing next to it so that should be the best true first airplane
Habu STS 70mm RTF - bit.ly/3fRaLj7
Apprentice 1.5m RTF bit.ly/2CfTCBY
Trying to set up my Night Timber X on a DX8 (G1). Manual says to go to "Channel Assign" and on Channel Input Config make AUX2 be switch A. I don't see a Channel Assign or Channel Input Config menu options anywhere in the System Setup menu. The closest thing I see is Switch Select.
That is a damn lightbulb!
for sure!
Are you a beginner pilot wishing to buy this plane? I am a beginner pilot and I bought this plane because of this video and others like it, and because I wanted the lights for night flight. Here is an update on my thoughts about this plane after 10 or so flights:
1. Forget thoughts of flying in the dark. You lose depth of field when the sun goes down and a crash is likely for a beginner pilot. The lights are very cool, but they aren't for you.
2. Before flying this plane, I had flown a small park flyer (I forget the name), a Carbon Cub S+ and a Conscendo Evolution. This plane is a big step up from those planes in the sense that it is very fast and the control surfaces make it very twitchy for me. It rolls, climbs, loops, dives all very, very fast. Of course you can slow things down, but in trying to figure out how to slow things down you'll probably crash along the way. Get it up high becuase you are going to be flying some acrobatics when you don't mean to be flying acrobatics.
3. Landing is MUCH harder than it was for any of the prior planes I had flown. This is a heavier plane and it is easy to break the plastic in the fuselage that the landing gear screws into. If you are a beginner pilot, I would say a hard landing is the first way you will break this plane. And when you break that plastic in the fuselage, it is never as strong as it was after you glue it together again with epoxy. So you'll be applying epoxy to your fuselage around the the landing gear more than once. OTOH, if you have access to an experienced pilot that will buddy box with you, you should be able to avoid all the landing problems.
4. Unless you are just flying ovals, you probably won't be able to fly this scale the way Brian does in this video. You could just fly it on SAFE, which is what I did a lot, but eventually you'll want to fly the plane yourself, and when you do, it won't be a smooth flyer.
5. 4S power is a lot of power in this plane, but it's kind of made for 4S power. It flew much faster than what I was used to, and bad things happen much more quickly in this plane. You could just put a 3S battery in it, reduce the throws, throw in some EXPO, turn on SAFE, etc. but if you are doing all that it means you bought the wrong plane.
I have crashed my Night Timber X a few times, but it is still flying. HH sent me a new fuselage for free, so that was nice of them (I just put it together last night and it's like a new plane...anyone want a good deal on a Night Timber X?)
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I have just placed an order for the Turbo Timber. I wish I had done that in the first place. Brian told me to start with the Turbo Timber, but I didn't listen. (And Brian, if you are reading this, you should not have told me to "start" with the TT, but you should have told me that "the TT is a lot more fun than the NTX.")
One last point, if you don't want to fly 3D, if you consider yourself a scale flyer, then I'm not sure this is the plane for you even if you are an experienced pilot. Turbo Timber seems like the way to go for a scale experience in a plane like this, but I haven't flown one yet.
One very experienced pilot who is very much into STOL told me that he sold his Night Timber X and purchased a Turbo Timber because NTX was too heavy for good STOL. And the NTX is not even marketed as an all-out 3D plane.
I think part of the reason I purchased the NTX instead of the TT is because I was looking at the TT as closer to a beginner plane. Someone says "you aren't ready for the NTX" and I think "oh hell I can figure it out." Who wants to spend money on beginner equipment only to be unhappy with it after 8 or 9 flights (think of that first crappy transmitter you wasted $100 on)? That WOULD BE a reasonable way to look at it if the TT was built for beginners and the NTX was built for more experienced pilots. But that's not how they designed these planes.
The TT IS more suitable for intermediate pilots, but even if you are an expert pilot that doesn't mean you are going to pick the NTX over the TT, and the experience of the expert pilot I just mentioned is an example of that. It's about the kind of flying you want to do.
Don't get me wrong...I think this plane is everything Brian and others say it is. It's just that it's definitely not for beginners, and it isn't for every expert either. It's only halfway to a 3D plane, and it's halfway to a STOL plane. It'll give you a taste of each without really getting you there. And if you want to emulate the sort of flying Brian does in this video, then I would say you'd be better off with the TT.
You literally just too the words out of my brain. I just replied to Luke Gagnon, who asked about this as a second plane compared to the Maule...
Get a load of my reply to him, to help reinforce your comments, which are 100% spot on!
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Luke - HEAR ME ON THIS....JUST flew them both this weekend, and I was reminded of this...
The Maule is a great choice, BUT the Turbo Timber (not the Timber X) would be an even better choice. The flight envelope on the Maule is just a lot FASTER, not impossible, or even a bad choice at all for a second plane, but the Turbo Timber 1.5m is super forgiving, and flies a lot longer on a charged pack of the same size. I know you didn't want to hear this, since you're concerned about space in your car, but I can tell you with 100% certainty, you will thank me later... You will may be totally overwhelmed with the Night Timber X and I bet you'll be very disappointed, as a result- it's NOT a bad plane, but you have to be ON IT! It will stress you out!
Notwithstanding your transportation issues, as they're both pretty big...both of the LONGER wing span planes options are BETTER options, with the Turbo Timber being the best option for your "next" plane given your current plane is the Aeroscout (one of the easiest, and best beginner planes around, btw).
Turbo Timber 1.5m bit.ly/2CiTmSB (This plane is an AWESOME choice given your criteria)
Maule M-7 1.5m bit.ly/2Wrj1zz (This is a good choice...might be a TOUCH easier to transport than Turbo Timber)
Night Timber X 1.2m bit.ly/2CB9I9d (You will regret this one as plane 2 - sorry Luke)
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@@BrianPhillipsRC One question for you. Over in RCGroups.com a couple guys who did not like the Night Timber X for the same reasons I stated, purchased a Turbo Timber wing and said it now flies like a Turbo Timber. I know the rear stabilizer is different on the TT, but I went ahead and purchased a TT wing. Do you think this will do the trick, or do you think I should return the wing and just get a TT?
The main reason i always deal with horizon they are great people and have awesome customer service.
I've been happy with the VAST majority of experiences with Horizon Hobby. The one or two that were less than desirable, they either made it right to me or I figured a way to make something work.
Brian yes its only one side of the wing the left side and it vibrates like it has a bad servo on the alerion serrvo or flap servo? Does not matter if im holding the plane or its sitting level, as soon as i test the control surface it go crazy? But when i touch the flap or alerion surface it stops until i actuate that control surface. This plane has never made it off the kitchen table or my stand?
Now I feel really bad that it's been 6 days since I replied to comments (crazy week - So sorry). The servo is almost certainly broken. You will have to trouble shoot a bit to figure out which one is which. Pull the wing, and see if the servo wires are hooked up backward (yes, I've done it too)...then if they are...fix it...if not, you'll have to get into surgery mode.
If you wish, you might choose to call Horizon Hobby and request a replacement PART, or see what they offer. They will probably give you a few things to try, but just be firm and fair, and don't take "no" for an answer. You'll get what you need...but don't forget what you need might be a whole wing, and they'll try to get you to take a servo. I've found it's easier to start with a whole new plane, and work your way back to the wing...but that's just been my experience.
Hi, I finished assembling the aircraft, and I had 3 small screws left. You know where to connect them?
You are going to have a couple on most planes ;)
Thanks for a very informative video, where you also cover the less than perfect stuff, which some other folks don’t seem to. Could you put down the three settings your talk about for dual rates and expo (crazy mode, etc)? Hard to copy from the video.
You mean my "Standard" started settings?
Here's what I do, but this is highly subjective.
All tied to the same switch, but you could split them up, if you want to be fumbling around while flying - LOL :)
Aileron...
Expo Rates
Pos1 10% 100%
Pos2 20% 100%
Pos3 30% 90%
Rudder...
Expo Rates
Pos1 10% 100%
Pos2 20% 100%
Pos3 30% 90%
Elevator...
Expo Rates
Pos1 10% 100%
Pos2 20% 100%
Pos3 30% 90%
Hey Brian great video watched it several times. I bound my DX9 just as you did so its in safe. I would also like to put it on a switch so i can turn it off but i"m having issues assigning it to switch B? Watched you section in the video many times and read the book but am i missing something. It wont assign to that switch so i can turn it off? Is it because its a three position switch? Any help would be great. Thanks James
Have you made sure that you're changing A Channel on switch B? Go to MONITOR (Scroll to the right ONCE) and watch when you flip the switch...does the bar move for whatever channel you've assigned? If so, then do the sticks in and down (or out and down...can't remember which way) then flip the switch ALL THE WAY UP and ALL THE WAY DOWN (two position switched and three position switches alike!!!) 5 times....so if you count the end strokes, you'll be counting to TEN ;)
If it doesn't work, you can try to rebind in AS3X, then REBIND with SAFE Select activated. Kind of a pain, but you CAN do it, if you've already made the assignment wrong...I've had a hard time trying to REASSIGN Safe Select to another switch and have had to do this too...
@@BrianPhillipsRC Brian i do have a issue just finished all the programming and assembly. I noticed that when i try out the control surfaces like the flaps and alerions on the left side only this happens but the servo seems to vibrate and when i touch the control surface it stops. When i work the alerions left and right it starts to vibrate again? Only on the left side? What are your thoughts ?
Nice plane. You should see another banggood plane that was released, it’s called the XK A160.
On my list NOW ;) Watch out for it ;)
Yeah, Banggood does things different ;) XK makes a GREAT RTF , and it's wonderful for an on budget flyer. I can't wait to review it. It's supposed to be coming realy soon!
Great video. I was wondering why the battery plug seems to have an extension? Maybe I am missing something but it doesn't seem to need any more length, so what's it for?
They're for the LED's. This allows you to unplug the inside LED's if you're flying during the day.
Thanks Brian, I just got mine for Christmas instead of reading the book I went step-by-step just like you did in the video because that’s the way I wanted mine to be set up the same way you did a perfect job you walked me right through it. ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ I do have one question I have a DX6e is there anyway I can do motor reversing?
I don't think so, since you have to use that higher channel, like 7 or 8, if I remember right. Sorry about that William! I can add, the reverse thrust is kinda like CRAZY INSANITY in the making. I barely have the guts to use it, since it scares me half to death!!!
@@BrianPhillipsRC Brian I have one more question 🤪 I have a DX6e and I have programmed this plane different than all my other planes now if I want to change all my plans to be the same as this plane, (i’m still learning my radio) so I have to go into each plane and re-go through the configuration? Like I just bought them.
Nice... I have an apprentice.. have to fly it yet !!
You should!
WOW you made me want that thing now lol
I'm glad you say that :)
Do it ;)
Night Timber X 1.2m - bit.ly/2yQNYEN
any chance you could show me the dual rates and expo----it went so fast and my screen is blurry I couldn't tell what you inputed for all your low mid and high rates
I do the same DR/Expo on all my planes, and only adjust if there's an issue...
I think I ran my "standard" expo and dual rates...
Switch F0 - 100% Rate | 5% Expo
Switch F1 - 100% Rate | 10% Expo
Brian after watching you on this video I had to go out and buy it. 🙄⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️😉
Awesome!!!
Brian I have an issue with my left wing? When i cycle the alerions left to right to test the control surfaces the left wing vibrates?? It only stops when i put my hand on it? I have had the wings off several time triple checking the correct wiring and correct polarity. Thanks James
You mean, it vibrates??? If you set it down, the LEFT wing moves, until you still the plane with a hand? That is crazy! I assume theirs a GAIN issue with your AS3X based on this little bit of information. Have you flown it yet?
I literally had a small plane (on a video yet to be published...so it will remain unnamed - LOL), that was vibrating when I laid it down to grab my hat and sunglasses. I had to still it before she would stop....BUT it was both ailerons, not just one...
Also, do you hear a clicking? of so, I bet you have a bad servo. FEEL the wing, and see which end makes more vibration....then you'll know where to start looking.