Why Recruiters Tell You To LIE During Enlistment Paperwork...
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- You walk into a recruiters office and they tell you not to worry about putting xyz issue down on your paperwork.. Why? And how will that affect you when you go to MEPS?
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My recruiter just said: “if everyone who enlisted didn’t have issues, there would be no one in the military. Sometimes people have to be quiet”
This is what mine told me 😂
Same, almost word for word.
this aged like fine wine
@@monkeygonz5175You mean in terms of the recruiting crisis?
@thebullsparade Bro you made me paranoid aight
I was too truthful to my recruiter, that's how I got disqualified. People, silence is golden.
What were you too truthful about?
oOJollyRabbitOo I was 28 when I was trying to enlist, and I told them I had Aspergers but was declassified when I was 18. The guy didn't even tell me the general surgeon disqualified me and I had to find out from the other recruiter. At the time I was told to be truthful. I'm 34 now and I tell my story to whoever is enlisting.
Why didn’t you apply for a waiver? If you got declassified you might have been able to try to apply for a waiver.
Raptor 3698 too late for me I'm afraid. No one ever told me about a waiver. Besides I tried going Air Force since my ASVAB score was high, but I had knee surgery earlier that year I could not hide, I kept the Aspergers to myself for that. Got disqualified for a completely different reason. Thank you for the suggestion though. I'm in an ok place now.
1Faith1Fate hey it’s no problem man. I’m in the same boat. I’m trying to become a rated officer in the Air Force through OTS. I was diagnosed with Aspergers when I was 4 and got declassified of ASD in June this year (I’m no longer considered autistic), but I do have ADHD (though I never took meds or used accommodations for it in my life). So even I’m trying to figure out how to navigate this.
In MEPS, the sergeant kept getting asked about if this broken bone or that one counted so he finally yelled, "If you have broken any bone, from the moment you took your first breath until this very second, you must put yes. No one else should have any questions about this!" And I had to raise my hand, and he was super thrilled to find I had a question that his statement had not covered, "What if it was before I took my first breath?"
He just stared at me, then said, "Ok, that's a first. I gotta hear this one."
The story is that my mom stopped pushing at the wrong moment as I was being born and snapped my collarbone. The lesson is that I had to go all the way back home, get my mother to write a notarized letter explaining my collarbone healed fine and had never given me trouble (since my pediatrician's office had burned down long ago and it was before computer files were a thing). My recruiter said that, per the sergeant's original statement, I could have just put no and skipped all that.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
hahaha that's crazy!
Wowwwwww 🤣🤯
So we went there so much over my sons appendix ruptured when he was starting 5th grade. It took us almost a year to try to get medical records, we could not. The doctor retired, the office was sold no one knew where my son's medical records went to. The hospital had been sold and they used different data companies for medical records, neither of those companies had my sons records. We had to get in touch with his retired doctor, old staff at the hospital and still could not get the medical records. My son pre-qualified in 3 areas for nuclear engineering, at MEPS , his glands were swallow had to come back later, later he past the gland issue , but then he had his eyes checked. He is color blind, total disqualified. Because he pre-qualified then the medical record issue, he had to go to MEPS to retake the test, he once again pre-qualified for nuclear engineering. They made him take more test because he went to Entrepreneurialship school instead of a traditional school. He had high scores on everything he could of had any job, but then the colorblind issue came up. The recruiter knew his scores, knew he was bright, Aaron told him he wanted something challenging the recruiter put him down for Machinist mate. He nor I am happy about this. My son is at the base of the ship, it starts taking on water, I might lose my son. Nor did the recruiter take in to account Aaron went to high school and Pikes Peak College for welding. Worked as a welder up till he left Feb. 18, 2020 whichever his College would of had him going in at a higher RANK.
NOT HAPPY I have no way to mail my son anything. His 20th birthday is the 24th of this month. I didn't hear from him for Thanksgiving, Christmas, New Year and now he is in the Middle East dealing with that drama. I have no way to call or email or text him. No address to send him a birthday gift, food etc. I reached out to get a message to him, I filled out all their questions and the email I got back was useless, they can not confirm or deny one or more of the listed below.
I lost my cool. Seriously, what the hell is wrong with you people that you would do that to a mom that is concerned about her 19 year old son, you can't confirm or deny if he is dead or alive, not in the Navy, and on and on?
Thats not showing me any respect especially I answered your question and your response Is to send me this vague BS THAT DOESNT HELP BUT PUTS MORE QUESTIONS IN MY MIND.
@@diannaglenn6054 You are one of the people that makes it worse. He maybe your son but he is not your baby anymore. There is already enough stress being in the military you are adding more.
A friend was told not to disclose his headaches when he was going through MEPS last year because they only happened while reading and his recruiter figured they'd adjust his prescription during in processing at basic. The doctors in basic definitely noticed something was wrong the first day of basic and sent him to the hospital. The kid turned out to have a brain tumor.
He's all good now and the Navy ended up paying for all his treatments while he was recovering. He made it through basic with no other issues.
That's great news! Props to the doctor that noticed it immediately.
@@kokomine578 yep. Apparently, there was a drastic change in his ability to see from MEPS to basic.
That's awesome he is doing well
He was able to get in the military even with a brain tumor ?
Lol it seems like lying was the best bet if he had to get that checked out on the civilian side he would probably have payed thousands of dollars getting that fixed and we wouldn't have been able to join
Its not lying its weakening details 😂
😂
It’s just omitting certain truths
"You dont say you had asthma as a kid, you say you dont have asthma at all."
Alternative facts
Matt Ward its a scanmer, he has scammed a friend and many people, really deserves to be descovered 😠😠😠😠😠😠
In 67, if you could walk, talk, and follow a simple command you were in.
On strict days they would check your pulse
What about Bone Spurs?
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@@edwardrj8289 🤣🤣🤣
In war they dont care
Yes- Your Enlistment Stops
No- New Oppurtunities
True that
What opportunities
My advice to “pass” MEPS:
1. Whatever you told your recruiter is what you tell your MEPS doctor.
2. If the MEPS doctors don’t ask anything about something you’re trying to hide, don’t mention it at all.
3. If there’s something that happened to you in the past, let your recruiter know WAY before you start the MEPS process. Ex) I had surgery years back and it left some scars. As long as I told my recruiter about it, they will ask you to obtain some medical records from the surgery. My MEPS doctor was informed about it prior the physical and was lenient about the situation
4. Relax. Stop overthinking that you will fail. Is it possible to fail over something so small? Yes. But as again, as long your recruiter knew about it and ask you to obtain some records prior, you will be fine.
i got a surgery 5 years ago, minor one for my shoulder, i have meps next week, and my recruiter told me to say it was a camping accident if they ask about the two small scars but im worrying shitless.
@@masonmaralit3025 did it work out?
It's the same for any surgery. It was an accident or a fall. Don't tell them anything else.
My recruiter straight up made some details on on my medical paperwork “disappear” and wasn’t even shy about it. Not like I care either, sped up the enlistment process for me.
how…. i’m allergic to pistachios and i think that could be disqualifying. i’m just going to say no to everything
Yo can I have your recruiter
You're still in right?
My recruiter didn’t tell me to lie she just said” if they don’t ask you don’t tell” 😂🌚
well they ask you about everything
James McDonald true true
Except a couple things.
Stuff like specific mental illness or disabilities aren't specifically asked.
Mine said the same thing 😂
@@equalprox474 if I have diagnosed on paper anxiety and adhd idk what can I do ?
Yeah my recruiter told me to lie at MEPS.
What happened?
You’re the CIA, you lie about anything how is that pertinent to your recruiter...
@@justinnewcomb2279 😂
Recruiter: oh just lie they'll never know
MHS Genesis: Hold my beer
Just passed MEPS last thursday and friday. Biggest tips I can give is say no to everything, be able to sit in a chair quietly for a few hours, and be good at following basic instructions.
best advice, can confirm
I have MEPS in 3 days and my recruiter told me to say no to everything, but i'm afraid they'll end up checking my mental records. i tried to overdose 4 years ago and i haven't had suicidal thoughts since then. i'm nervous
@@ludimmedina5739 if you give them a reason to check ur files they will, they wont know if u dont tell them, there is no system they can pull up to check ur records
@@ludimmedina5739 just do not fold and tell them, they will try to scare you but dont let them get to you, they only know if you bring the papers and show them
@@ludimmedina5739 I would be more concerned when you go to basic. You'll be in a stressful environment, maybe those thoughts will pop back in your head. If you tell anyone that you have suicidal thoughts, they'll most likely give you the boot.
When I first started watching this I was like, 😱uh oh... this isn’t going to be good! 🤣
What's up team Swartz
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@@TEAMSWARTZ good sir
@@rahmanmuhammad9791 "Don't call me sir! I work for a living" 😂
@@peterparsons207 i just turned 16 don't know much about military ranks
I really appreciate this dude, his videos answer all of my 2,000,000 ridiculous questions 😂
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Matt Ward thanks for the heart and reply! I really enjoy your content and hope to serve when i graduate high school
Hahaha yes he’s so informative, now I have a lot less stupid questions to ask my recruiters 😂
I ship out November 9th, here’s my advice
“ yes “ means you go home and do more paper work
“ no “ means you stay and enlist
Youre going nowhere You’re the freaking king of Naples , go take charge of the Calvary and respect your Emperor , and Don’t betray him! Remember He made you out of mud !
Me: I want to join the military it's my childhood dream
Meps: Did I just hear you say yes sir to that Sgt across the hall?? *gets disqualified*
Recruiter: Do you take vitamins? Me: I take vitamins.. Recruiter: why? Me: thought I should, why not. Recruiter: saying that you take vitamins can cause problems at meps. Me: I don't take vitamins..
Geez, really? Did you pass through MEPS?
Former recruiter here. The people that work at MEPS know we tell applicants to keep their mouths shut. The personnel at MEPS could care less if you join or not. My advice is if it’s not documented then it never happened.
i broke my arm in 7th grade and got surgery idk if i have a metal plate in my arm still my recruiter told me to not say anything, when i go to meps what do you think i should bring it up esp since the surgery was documented but i have 0 clue if i do have a plate inside my arm i have 0 issues wit lifting weights or any issues with my arm
@@Bastian.X3Bruh. You did not break arm in 7th grade.
That's how my wife got screwed over. Recruiter told her to lie about a health condition. He said as long as it doesn't effect her anymore not to mention it. She took his advice, they found out about it at sick call and now she's being discharged.
what did she have?
The key phrase "doesn't effect her anymore."
It didn't effect her anymore. What she went to sick call for was completely unrelated to that.
@@natecannon6746 What was the condition and how did they find out about it at sick call?
It was a heart condition. They did a procedure on her heart when she was 2 and it hasn't affected her since. Our recruiter told her not to tell meps about it since it didn't affect her anymore. She had flu like symptoms and went to sick call. They did x-rays on her chest, found the stint in her heart, and took her out of training even though nothing was wrong with her outside of having a cold and needing some rest. They sent her home and now she is facing medical discharge.
Honestly, if it’s not a significant problem or it’s something you had in childhood and no longer have then MEPS doesn’t need to know about it . Only when it’s a current and significant issue will it need to be on your paperwork
No, they will ask about past and current conditions. The military can pull records if those issues arise again. If it was something minor but they don't specifically ask on paper, then maybe dont mention it🤔😐
"I can't tell you to lie, but if you say 'yes', you won't get through."
As a former recruiter I would never tell a recruit to lie as that would come down on me. Sending a recruit to MEPS that tells them I said to lie would come down on me and could have affected my career. Before they went to MEPS I would go over the same questions again and make sure that whatever they told me that they say the same at MEPS.
Just as an example of what you should definitely disclose, a guy in my buddy's basic training company "forgot" to disclose that he was a manic depressive who'd been purposefully off his meds for two years. He attempted suicide during kp one day because he'd screwed up so much (due to the mood swings of his bipolar disorder) his platoon gave him a blanket party.
oh thats really kind of them
I bet that made him glad to be alive
I'm sure he got in shape after the encouragement of his platoon.
@@seneca4670 they didn't know. He got the blanket party before he attempted suicide.
@@needlamp2147 well it happened before he attempted suicide. And they felt pretty crappy when the found out why.
I told my recruiter about something and he said something like “I’m not telling you to lie to meps but I have so many people come through here that I wouldn’t remember that you even told me anything”
I have finely enlisted Monday Sept 21st im going in as a 19D cav scout
Did you go to meps on the 17th?
@@connorschannel6849 no i went Sunday and monday which was sept 20th and 21st which was a Monday and enlisted then and sworn in at at louis missouri
Aye I ship the 13 for forward observer but to jackson lol
David oh okay, I was talking to guy who was going to be a 19D leaving for October 20, I’m leaving October 13th for Fort Benning, going in for 19K Tanker
I'm shipping out to fort Benning in Nov
I just graduated BCT from Fort Jackson today thank you for all the videos that helped me prepare
Congrats!
I just graduated from AIt fort Leonard wood mps lead the way
Dale Woods I head to for Leonard wood tomorrow for AIT 88m
how long was basic? and what was it like?
Avann Santos 9 weeks 4 days and if you’re going during COVID times it’s super easy
Come on guys 725 of you have seen the video lets get him to 100 likes he only has 98
Thanks!!!
I already went through meps I just want to make sure I made the right choice by lying
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Yes, silence is golden. You're recuiter is the safe space for telling them everything, well, a good recruiter. They will tell you weather or not that situation will be a big deal for you in the future. It's on MEPS to catch all these issues that may be a problem later on. If they don't, now it's the Army's responsibility to take care of it. But if you have so many issues that you can't keep track of everything, then maybe you need to reevaluate joining. There will be so many things you will need to keep track of that don't involve your personal life, like your soldiers lives, you equipment, regulations, TM details for your MOS, ADPs that govern your MOS and all kinds of things, that may be a problem for you if you can't remember or grasp what is important about your own medical or personal history.
My recruiter was known for saying, "I'm not positive but I think...(insert whatever you want to hear)" and being totally wrong.
I’ve waited over 4 years to enlist. Still waiting on a waiver. I’ve been told with everything that’s been happening it’s been a whole lot slower. So 4 years ago when I tried enlisting I gave them my last 5 years of medical history. There was things in there that required me to wait and then after the waiting period I need the waiver that I’m waiting on now. I still want to enlist and I’m holding hope. I’m going to college in the meantime. I’m a junior in college now.
Dude!! that{s fucked up lol xD. Well, you might as well enlist as an officer xD
@@kevinurielfonseca still would have to go through MEPS. They are the ones holding me back for any part of the military
@@lloydaurion-gaming46 hopefully they don't make me wait that long. I just went to MEPS yesterday but did not make it because of a hernia that I had when I was 12 years old, I'm now 22 but they need a 'statement' from my family...I just sent it to my recruiter today morning xD
@@kevinurielfonseca you in?
@@Supremebean303 Hell yeah boy. I graduate from AIT in October 15 2021 :). I'm on the reserves component tho. I waiting to graduate from University to become an Officer and send my application to SFAS :)
My recruiter told me to lie about having asthma when I was a kid because I don't have it anymore. However, I ended up disclosing it at MEPS because for one, they scared me with jail time, and for another, I wasn't (and still am not) sure it was completely gone. They sent me back and I had to get a waiver. Now I'm at AIT
What documents did your recruiter tell you to get bro ? My brother had asthma as a child he wants to know what he needs without a recruiter ghosting him
@@almightymelanin3650 He said I needed a pulmonary function test, but my doctor just wrote a letter clearing me of asthma and that was enough for MEPS.
@@bbminetesting6837 thanks bro
@@almightymelanin3650 No problem!
Navy taking people with Asthma with waiver. Wish me luck !!!
So apparently, there is new screening process added to mep now.
They can pull you medical records, and I have seen some small clinics pulled out my record on a public info website about when where who prescribed me what, if a small clinics can do it I believe us military can pull it.
So my recruiter explained said whatever you had before broken bones drugs etc you CAN get away by not saying anything and lying your way straight in, but now they will literally find out.
Big if
My army recruiter told me to lie about my past depression and anxiety as well as other medical issues. As well as my criminal record.
He said, if I say something then I'll get disqualified and might not get a waiver
did you get through MEPS? i was told to lie about my past anxiety and depression hehe
That criminal record will most likely pop up since they have to run that for a background check in MEPS
@@keiseki3666 Yeah idk what branch this recruiter is with but that is seriously fucked.
@@keiseki3666 Bruh nvm it says army… im kinda retarded
Did you get in ?
I went to MEPS last month and passed it. Just say NO to everything!
But did you have an medical issues or problems with the law
@@dserpa4348 I had surgery for my back and didn't show up in Genesis
There’s a reason they ASK YOU QUESTIONS. If they ask you something about your medical background, there’s an absolute chance it’s because it’s disqualifying or you’ll need medical paperwork gathered for it for a waiver. Some things are worse than others. Also, if any of your “injuries” aren’t listed in paperwork and you’ve never been to a doctor then boom ✨doesn’t exist✨
Dude my recruiter instilled this to hard, at meps I said I had never drank alcohol. I was 24
Careful about lying about some things though. Example: If you were a stoner, and you lie and say you've never smoked before, there could be issues in the future with security clearance checks depending on your MOS. You could get polygraphed and then when you lie about the question "have you ever intentionally falsified official documents" they will drill you on that until the truth comes out. Then you're screwed
so i tell them i was a stoner then i stopped
@@icaneatbacon4342dont tell them that.
Meps doctor:So where did you go to scho....
Recruit:No!😐
Doctor:😐
Doctor:okay next question....
It be like that 😂😂😂😂
No Sir
This is how MEPS works. Have you had an encounter with law enforcement applicant says I saw a police car on the news. Now the applicant is disqualified for life 😂
Best advice I can give tell your recruiter everything, they’re going to put you in
Tell Meps nothing they’re going to keep you out
currently at the hotel and i swear in tomorrow morning!! 74D leaving for basic October 27th @ fort leonard wood!!
74D also and I’m shipping 1 day before you lol
Going to meps on the 27th
Lol I leave to meps in 2 hours to do my medical
Your favorite answer is "no"
No- Numerous Opportunities
Yes- Your Enlistment Stops
Hey can you post a good way to get into shape before basic
Lmao i got temporarily disqualified cause of my wonky eye
I enlisted during the height of the Vietnam draft. There were hundreds of draftees sitting on the floor while we were pushed through quickly. I knew I had a perforated eardrum but didn't know it would've been a disqualifier. One station was an ear, nose, and throat examination. Of the ten entering the examination room, I was examined first. The doctor looked at my bad ear and told me to remind him to make an entry onto my medical record later. I said yes sir. After the last guy was examined, we were dismissed. I ran out the door instead of reminding the doctor anything. A minute later, he marched into the hallway and called for "the guy with the bad ear". The doctor was a big guy and looked angry. Some draftees started chanting, "what, what, what?". The doctor ordered all of them in for re-examination. I (politely) cut the line and went to the front. I passed MEPS and am grateful to have served four years active duty. The ear has mostly healed on itself with minimum difficulty. I bet that doctor is still pissed.
I be talking to recruiter in few months at least, but hoping I get actaul recruiter who willing to work out the process and get a waiver for childhood asthma. I rather tell the truth then risk getting fraudulent enlistment at bct.
i've been told as long as it doesn't affect you now, you should be ok
Here's how it works. Childhood asthma after the age of 13 will require a waiver. But, if your childhood asthma was before the age of 13, and you have not been treated for asthma after the age of 13, you're good to go. No waiver is required.
However, if you are currently required to carry an inhaler or otherwise take any medication for asthma, you will be permanently disqualified. If you had childhood asthma after the age of 13 and you declare this information to your recruiter, you will not only have to produce all of your medical records related to asthma, which could cost you $0.25 per page or more, but, you will be required to undergo a Pulmonary Function Test and an examination at MEPS to determine if you can enlist.
Remember, honesty is always the best policy, but, in the case of your medical history, that honesty applies to prior conditions that would otherwise bar you from enlistment. So, if your asthma was before the age of 13 and you did not receive any treatment for it after the age of the 13, you will not require a waiver.
Good luck.
@@akasgsvirgil9503 How you think it work out for me? It been over 6 years since I was treated for asthma. Last time I had asthma symptoms was 12, but next year at 13 I notice on pacer test, I was able run more without wheezing. I went from 23 laps to 44 laps. All these years I never had the symptoms anymore. I do know how asthma can be tricky to tell if you still have it or not and Ik it can come back too. Which is why I wanna go through the process for waiver just in case. Only problem for me, all my medical records that showed, I was treated for asthma is destroyed in California and Arizona, due to me not needing it after over 5 years and living in Georgia since 2013. Currently pass 5 years my medical documents is clear and haven't gotten sick for years as well. I'm still going mention my childhood asthma but Idk how I'm going get medical documents that showed me being treated for asthma, at least show proof I had childhood asthma. Since I heard once your old documents are destroyed, theres no back up or copy for them.
Edit: Forgot to mention, I haven't run much pass few years but Im in shape at least. So Im not that active anymore compared to 6 years ago.
@@BiG-JuPO1O1 Without the records proving that you did not have asthma or treatment since 13, they will likely make you go to MEPS for a Pulmonary Function Test and put you through the waiver process. But, without the medical records, that could reduce your chances of getting a waiver.
Here's a friendly piece of advice. You won't get anywhere if you don't try. If your conscience requires you to bring up your asthma, then, that's what you should do. If its meant to be, then, everything will work out.
But, if you have any trouble whatsoever running or engaging in strenuous activity for prolonged periods of time, you should seriously consider whether or not the military is the right choice for you.
Good luck.
@@akasgsvirgil9503 I understand, still worries me, I might not make it. Especially with me not being able provide my medical documents that shows that I jad childhood asthma. I just dont want lie and risk getting fraudulent enlistment. So Im definitely going be honest.
Your recruiter is the best source for information. That said not all recruiters are alike. Some a great and others are poor. If you need to, go to the next town over and talk to that one. Your recruiter should be able to handle and advise on all your concerns so that MEPS and other parts of the process go smooth. If you’re not confident, talk to them so that you will be!
Be honest with your recruiter and get waivers. If you do end up enlisting and something comes up In your career that's a big issue.
Yeah that’s what I did yesterday - I honestly would never feel good about myself if I lied about major stuff. 👍🏻🤞🤞🤞🤞
This true filled out paperwork yesterday my navy recruiter told me not to put yes for certain stuff so they won't be able to disqualify me he said if it happened in the past no longer affect u or u not on medication they don't need to know
Hey Matt Ward I went to meps a month ago in Puerto Rico and freaking had blood pressure high and needed appointment for eye vision probably for my astigmatism. I remember a guy who got DQ because blood pressure was at 200🤣 Damn the machine got all nuts lol. Not easy being at Meps I don't know why they make this process so stressful and irritating... Wish me luck on Thursday hopefully pass eye vision doctor and enlist as an 35f (Intel analyst)!!!
Ohh man. I’ve got astigmatism too and I’m hoping to join the national guard de PR, still waiting to talk to a recruiter. Buena suerte con eso!
@@ginaflaz8431 hey Gina don't be that worried, hopefully you will pass eye test again because they verify if you're astigmatism is over 3 diopters then they need to waiver. One of my eyes was in 2.90 an passed. Good luck! I know it's hard but don't let go your faith!!!
I think the MEPS civilians are either jealous or straight up hate their lives.
yep i was told to lie about my childhood athsma. i hadent had it since i was 7, dont get nervous they dont check anything
meps in my area is only getting more and more strict and i wonder why nbody wants to join the military
It sucks when being honest backfires most of the time. Just stay quiet and stay no to everything.
I told the doc at MEPS I had COVID-19 3 months before. Now I’m held back and don’t know if I’m going to be disqualified. Yeah it does suck.
dang. I got covid back in december and leave for MEPS this month.
@@zachsetzer2596 u in?
Next time say you only had the flu, you never had Covid.
Now, with a new system, I wonder what’s gonna happen with not lying anymore on a minor issues. Some stuff was a long time ago, so why does it matter. so what is the best advice? Do you have a contact info to ask you?
i’m allergic to pistachios and i think it’s disqualifying, should i say no to everything
Told my recruiter that I took meds for acid reflux a couple years ago and he said that if it doesn't bother me and I don't need meds anymore then it's not a problem. Especially since it's not really a thing that can incapacitate you in a stressful situation (mine specifically was mild compared to my aunt who throws up in her sleep). I'm pretty sure I passed MEPs as of right now. But as for other conditions like asthma or epilepsy you should probably tell someone about that. Nobody wants to be in a life or death situation and have their teammates going into seizures or being unable to breathe normally. Just make a judgment call on your part and decide what you want to disclose to your recruiter. . Most people going through MEPs tend to be "forgetful" anyway ;).
I finally enlisted and got through MEPS on the 17th of this month! I will be shipping out for Ft. Jackson on the 19th of October. MOS -15R.
Boooo Romeos suck. Make sure to introduce yourself to the Yankees when you get to your unit. Enjoy Eustis
My recruiter didn't tell me to lie to MEPS, but he did strongly suggest not volunteering any information
Never.
Passes meps last week on the 28th of May. The Friday right before holiday. I'm sure our group got lucky as the doctors wanted to get the hell out of there lol
I’m speaking with a recruiter for the marines I don’t have any problems with mental or physical health issues I’m clear with all that
In the past, you had an x-ray. If you had bones, you were in.
As a person leaving for BCT in a month and going through the process, let me put it this way... you know yourself best, if you feel that there is a medical condition that could be a liability, yes disclose it. But truly if you have something like that, should you really be enlisting? Think before you sign, people. Recruiters are just doing their job by letting you make the decision of how you present yourself. They want to help you get in! Make sure you trust the recruiter you’re working with and take responsibility for your own health/decisions.
what’s your date and base???
Issabella Ruden Oct 26, Fort Sill OK
You have a great point! Just bc you CAN get in by not disclosing something doesn’t mean you should. Example is someone with a history of depression or self deletion, military has an even higher rate of that stuff. Or having a physical condition while having a physical job.
@@kelseashiosaki45302 years later… how is everything going with you’re military career?
Yes but if someone gets into the army and they are found out, sometimes they can get free medical care to fix the issue so they can still stay in the military but then they don't have to pay for their medical procedures. Yes it's cheating the system a bit, but it's a good way to get around Not having to sign heaps of paperwork unnecessarily and not having to pay for medical care unnecessarily.
The very first thing the captain at meps told us during our initial briefing was that if we lie and commit fraudulent enlistment we'd go to jail. But I just swore in as 74D today
Same here when your ship out date??? Mines oct. 26th
@@brandonpuls3481 Oct 26th, same as you
Nice, I have a couple buddies who are CBRN. How you liking it?
My recuriter went behind my back and changed my medical papers and didn’t send my medical papers in. HE GOT CAUGHT and I wasted my whole 2 days of meps. Meps is getting me a new recuriter
Should I lie about my adhd to join the army, it’s been a dream of mines to join and I haven’t taken any meds in the last 6 years and I’ve been fine without it but I’ve been taking the meds past the age of 14 and I stopped taking the meds when I graduated from high school and now I’m 22 and I really wanna join but I’m scared I’ll get permanently disqualified and also I’ve graduated from community college and I’m about to graduate with my bachelors in May so that’s proof that I’m fine without the meds
Army requires for you to be off any medication or stimulus for one or three years i think. Go talk to a recruiter.
I had a gonorrhea, chlamydia 2 years ago. Also, I had asthma, anxiety, depression, obesity (260lbs). Other than that I'm fine. Do I have a chance to go into Seals?
Definitely, just ask if you can take your inhaler into BUDS first.
Well now you don't have anything wrong with you so it doesn't matter what happened in the past. It doesn't exist.
Listening to this as I fill out enlistment forms 💀
I was interested in enlisting when I was younger, but had a history of psych issues and asthma, and irregular heartbeat. Recruiters told me to keep some things to myself, but now I wonder If I had passed physical and gone in how different my life would be to have had a solid career and improved myself while serving in active duty. I told them about my asthma being cat allergy related, and at the physical they told me about my irregular heartbeat, which could have been a sign of a trained athlete. What I wonder is how a cat allergy related asthma would affect someone like me trying to enlist. Would I have been OK do go forward? Considering I have always been pretty dependant on an Albuterol rescue inhaler.
What if I was abducted by aliens?
Probably require a waiver, huh?
Honestly the dumbest thing ever is getting a physical when you join the military. People are trying to do good and such
if you are not physically in fit to get passed meps your just in the way
I just did my ASVAB yesterday. Unfortunately I need a Moral Waiver so I’m just waiting for that to get approval before I can go forward with the process. I can promise you they WILL find anything legal related if you try and hide it. Got DQ’d back in 2009 for that
What did they find?
Ya you can’t hide a criminal record. Did you get in?
Currently waiting for a waiver myself. Hopefully it gets approved did you end up getting in?
@@Andrew-mb7gbGot approved?
The further into MEPS you get they start to ask "Did anyone tell you to lie on your paperwork?" lol they know what's up.
Also, my doctor straight up said "Looks like everything is no... so lets move onto...." We didn't go down all the questions.. I think he was too interested to hear about my college grades compared to my HS and ASVAB grades lol.
They check
Your grades bc I sucked at schoot
my friend got denied because he can’t eat gluten
I mean it’s the only way to pass MEPS 😂🤣😳
lol
Why the recruiters tells you, sign this paper and you’ll become a navy seal?
I remember going to a marine recruiter and he told me that they didnt accept people with a GED, so then I joined the Army. I did 8 years as a 68W
@james m I can concur.
How was it? Im considering doing the same instead of hospital corpsman in the Navy
Do you know what 68a is like?
You were a 68W!!!! LUCKY!!!
You can’t really blame the marines, they just have higher standards.
I went to highschool with someone that lied about surgery he had to rebuild his left ankle, went to basic and got kicked out after two weeks when they found screws in his ankle
I honestly encourage lying myself saves u from a lot of BS
what did you lie about?
I have a feeling that if I have a scar from something or if the condition is visible I should probably disclose it and try to get a waiver right?
I got the same question cuz my surgeon for an appendectomy said to not say anything when I join, got meps in 3 weeks
what happened ?
This just tells me that the US Military needs to rework their enlistment process. We could be so much more efficient.
Yeah I lied about a lot of stuff in meps lol but none of it was like disqualifying it was just so I didn't have to go pull medical records for my broken arm in 2nd grade
Find it funny how a lot of people are self incriminating themselves in this comment section.
Unless there are screws anywhere in your body or you are on medication, nothing is wrong with you. Just shut up about everything.
One word:Genesis. Genesis is why people get DQ
Unfortunatley the british army does have this possibility as they get all your medical records straight from the nhs
Going to talk to my recruiter tomorrow and restart the process
What if the person has a schizophrenic ish nerve problem but over comes and controls it
If a primary doctors signs a letter stating the person is well can he still go
Meps only knows what you tell them. I promise. If you fold under pressure that easily then you're not military material anyways.
Decently inaccurate, if it's an actual medical condition. Don't lie, don't disclose, don't lie. Be honest and you'll be fine.
They pull medical records now. They aren’t just yes or no questions for everyone
Man, I answered one thing saying I was suspended from school. Here I am 3 years and a bunch of waiver junk later finally getting sworn in on the 8th. If only I knew...if only...
They have a problem with getting suspended??
Sucks to suck
@Lila Vanalli think for yourself.
What if I lie, would they know?
My recruiter told me to lie about me having a seizure due to being smashed in the head my JR year of high school football
I'm in Benning right now, have my phone phone this (totally legit) and one piece of advice dont sign up right now cause reception will be 7 weeks...not one. You come right now and you will be fucked. Lol save me from 30th ag!
Reception is 7 weeks?
How the hell you keep your phone, especially at Benning?
@@BiG-JuPO1O1 How much you wanna bet he got caught and got the whole platoon in trouble lol
Set a record for ear wax plugging my ears.
My hearing is sensitive again. It hasn’t been sensitive for a decade.
They got the earwax after the hearing test, and because my hearing was not sensitive during the test, I passed!
Now I just need to control my reactions to the loud noises.
Even if my recruiter said lie I’ll never rat death before dishonor 😂
Shipping out tomorrow 11x
If I had depression years ago and have had no symptoms for years is that worth just leaving out of paperwork?
I'm curious about that as well to be honest
I’ve been to rehab, it was paid for by tricare and my recruiter is trying to tell me not to say anything
Yeah Matt with all due respect, ALOT Of recruiters don’t really encourage this. You lie about not having a disability or about not being injured you leave and you get hurt because of a previous injury you had and it’s on you for not telling them that you were injured. US RECRUITERS DO NOT ENCOURAGE
Yeah but most recruiters do tell us to lie. Mine was a staff sergeant he told me to lie about a lot of crap
Quan Cauley he’s wrong dude.
This is what a MEPS worker would say 😂
Watch Dog no dude it’s just me trying to protect recruits from hurting their self in training, if they’re pushed passed their limits which everyone has they can get hurt.
Your missing the point. If it is something serious put it down. If it is minor or is very old and minor then no.
I remember answering a question my recruiter asked me that was disqualifying and telling him the truth. He asked me again and I said the truth again. He asked one more time and I understood what he was getting at. He never told me to lie, but I had to. It’s so easy to be disqualified, and the military was the best thing that ever happened to me. I’m so grateful for my experience.
I just got off the phone with my recruiter. Going in Thursday for my first meeting. Very excited to take the next step.
I've heard that after you sign your contract they can change your mos because they need you somewhere else. Is that true?