Monster Hunter World - All Tempered Elder Dragons - Strategy Guide (With Timestamps)
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I made this guide bc I am still running into so many players that could use some solid advice on how to fight the Tempered Elder Dragons. Below are Timestamps for each of the Elder Dragons.
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1. 0.00 Getting Started - Items - Loadouts
2. 3:30 Tempered Nergigante
3. 7:04 Tempered Kushala Daora
4. 13:12 Tempered Teostra
5. 18:13 Tempered Vaal Hazak
6. 25:53 Tempered Kirin
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1. Put "Craft Flash Pod" on your radial menu. - The Gaming Seshion
2. Kushala Daora doesnt deal ice damage, he deal physical and dragon - Tyler Abstractcourier
3. Wind Pressure Negated from Gama Horn doesn't work on Kushala - Tyler Abstractcourier
4. Remember - Fireproof mantle for Teostra, Thunderproof mantle for Kirin - TayV 813
If you know of a tip that can help players defeat the Tempered Elder Dragons, share it and I will pin that tip here to the pinned comment. Thanks!
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Best tip would be “GIT GUD”.
TheGameconomist it's kinda obvious but STACK FLASHBUGS AT THE FARM! With 3 pods and 10 bugs in your inventory you can have 13 on hand. These go quickly, after a few elder hunts I've gone from 99 in my chest down to 30 in no time. So with increased growth rate and all three farm slots filled you can get 18 bugs after each hunt which will mitigate the huge amount you'll use in each hunt.
Also "git gud" isn't advice it's a signal that someone doesn't know how to fight well enough to pass on tips to other players. Avoid people who say this at all cost, they're trash.
TheGameconomist I like to max out my health by using ingot vambrace s and a vitality jewel, that way no matter hits me I'll have enough health. Also I'm still grinding for decorations and until I get better ones gobbled is very nice. With 2 you can take a potion super fast, so if got hit you can heal really fast. And try to be mindful of others, don't all just go after the head and end up tripping each other or spam rock shower with the bow. The way I play is I'm here to help bring down the monster by doing damage but not getting in the way, not dying and bring things like flash pods and mega bombs to help do damage.
Pro Tip: Use the Dragon Pods they drop on the ground. They do a tiny bit of normal and dragon damage yes, BUT they also do a good deal of Elderseal.
Just hit the elder dragon with the pods (preferably in the head, since most of their auras will block the pods completely) and after 5-6 pods it will seal their aura temporarily. Since every drop has 7 pods, this shouldn't be too hard as long as you're careful about your shots.
Elderseal and the dragon pods are especially strong against Teostra since sealing his aura completely stops him from doing his Nova.
TheGameconomist kinda butchered daora and teostras name😂
you should also mention that "DO NOT FLASH DAORA WHEN IT'S STILL INSIDE THE TORNADO"
Fought Daora with friend, he accidentally flashed it inside the tornado, instant regret
I dont remember what happens
And don't flash when mounted on a monster
FYI, you can't spam Flash Pods anymore. Tempered monsters gain immunity to flashing after 4 uses.
i think the video creator hasnt played any tempered versions yet, cos he a pussy and stick to the norm, thats why he doesnt know
but, it literally has clips of him fighting and killing the tempered elder dragons... >->
@blvk3 they changed it after this video was made
@@blvk3 lolwhat
You can only Flash Tempered Elders, twice, maybe three at the most. Twice for Kushala.
Against nergigante, I actually find flashing him mid-dive to not work out very well. Yes, it stops the dive in that moment, but it leaves his spikes fully grown. Nergigante only uses its dive bomb when it's spikes (I think it's just the forearms and head, but I could be wrong) are fully grown. So sure, you stop the attack once, but it can still do the attack shortly after and its spikes remain at full, meaning you have a harder time dealing damage and have to continue worrying about it dive-bombing again soon. It may be that I usually run defensive mantles (temporal and vitality usually), but i find its dive easy enough to dodge with a superman dive (most of the time) that, at least in my opinion, it's better to let nergigante reset its spikes so you can keep damaging it rather than just interrupting it and letting it keep its spikes
Another Tip:
Put "Craft Flash Pod" on your radial menu.
This is a great tip, I'll add it to the pinned comment
if you put craft flash pods on the radial menu; *STACK FLASH BUG IN THE FARM* .
13 flash pods go quick, with all boosts to harvest and growth after a few quests you'll have 99 bugs. but 13 flash pods go quicker than you'd think, and your stock will drain much faster when you're bringing a enough flashes to throw a rave in any fight.
cee kay ive never experienced being out of stock of flashpods. I mostly just do tempered elders and always carry total of 13 flash pods. Though i rarely finish 13 pods in a quest unless i used them in a bad way. Just another tip. Never throw a flash pod in a wall. Always throw them downward in the ground it will flash faster and it will make sure that it wont go inside a wall/rock or any environmental blocks which wont affect monsters. Flash it down unless its vaal hazak which in some cases you need to throw your flash upwards. And if kushala is not limping yet and starts flying to go to another area dont bother flashing it as it looks upward when flying so it wont be affected by flash.
also put craft mega potion and max potion
This is a dumb tip if u just use flash pots on the radial menu when ur out it auto crafts 1 so u can use it
Please don't flash pod while people are mounting though :D
Feircy As an IG user I actually don’t mind cause it knocks the monster down before my buffs run out meaning i can actually get some atks in with everyone else rather than awkwardly running around the monster gathering extracts the whole time
Kay right that is an issue atm but it's just good manners not to do it. Also that is being fixed in the coming patch this week, IG buffs will no longer drain during mounting.
Feircy I can't wait for that update! IG users rejoice!
it's usually faster to do it tbh.
also remind everyone that flashing daora inside the tornado is fucking annoying, and stupid shit to do, just flash him when he already move outside the tornado
even with the windproof skill melee users will get damaged if they're too close inside the tornado, leaving no chance of others to do damage
Update: Tempered Elders got more resistant to flashpods in an update, abusing pods may get to a point that they can become completely useless later on.
For tempered Kirin, Be careful using drop attacks trying to mount it, seriously. I've lost count of how many times I've witnessed someone be abruptly erased from the fight while in mid air because Kirin brought its lightning down on itself.
lmao the message when that guy fainted at 28:55 "He needs some milk"
tip if your dead you cant die
Lol
Damn son, you should make a couple of strat videos
Hardest to Easiest (for me):
Kirin
Teostra
Kushala
Nerg (Don't flash bomb his dive bomb, superman dive and let him lose those protective horns)
Vaal (With Effluvial negation and health regen [Health regen = more dps time on monster])
Idk, I find nerg the easiest these days. Vaal can be a real time waster
Please do not use the acronym O.P. because the devs are highly sensitive to the word over powered next thing you know......NERF!
lmao same, I’m like stfu the devs will hear you! NARK!!!
Shyne 1337 Flashpods got Nerf’d lol
all developers hate the acronym "O.P.". Its a welcome nerf for me tho
@@BrilliantHathaway Yep, only 2 per tempered monster fight
If everything is op, then nothing is
You don’t need Guard up to block the Nergigante divebomb, but you will need it for Teostra’s nova and Vaal Hazak’s beam and heavy fog attack since those can’t be block.
Kirin is really weak to torch pods. He will just fall over and you can wail on him.
The new glasses for the current event give you a stun resist lvl1 and 3 lvl1 decorations slots so then just need to slot two stun resist jewels in and you are g2g and you even get a free slot to use something else. pretty nice piece of headgear really if your build allows it.
I'm sorry did he mean Vaal Hazak is the easiest elder dragon to fight
Use a ranged weapon and learn his super choreographed attacks and done. Once you get his armor you don't need a ranged weapon but it still makes it easier.
Teostra has a really annoying dash that knocks you down and he has a chance of doing the supernova attack as a direct follow up and it stops you from getting away making him harder then kushala because kushala doesn't really have an annoying Insta kill combo.
Kirin
Teostra
Nergigante (because he like teostra has a Insta death combo that stun resistance doesn't help with because knock back and stun are two different things)
Kushala
Vaal hazak (because his area gives you two nullberry plants and a flash bug to farm and grab in the area. Ranged weapons make it impossible to get hit. Then you can get his leggings easily after about one fight and it's all you need for his health effect)
I actually found Val harder due to the effluvium without the gems... Nerg and teostra aren't too bad. Although I play switch axe so maybe I am biased since you can often fall into pools when you mount Val for a discharge.
Once you get effluvium resistance Val is a cake walk
2 teeth on the area where vaal first appears couple of seconds into the hunt can be used to deal 10%ish damage on him plus a free knockdown each.
I fought Tempered Kirin to get to HR 50 and never again. I only use his investigations to get other tempered elder dragon investigations
Isaiah Evans
Tempered Kirin is not that difficult. Use a fire weapon and you can make very quick work of him. He doesn't have nearly as much health as the other elders.
Not sure what weapon you main but I was able to easily defeat him with the SlashAxe(Anja Axe), Bow(Anja Bow), and Gunlance(Zorah).
With the Gunlance, you can really use either one you are comfortable with. Just choose the shelling type you know how go be effective with. Shelling bypasses all defense and does flat damage.
With the SlashAxe, it's pretty simple. Get Anja Axe, get crit draw skill with decoration or armor piece, Hit him by drawing into the sword mode. Try not to get greedy, put your weapon away and wait to do another draw attack. Aim for the horn every time. You should be doing over 100 every hit. Also, as a bonus, the Sword Mode of the SwitchAxe doesn't bounce off ever. Even when Kirin is enraged.
When he drops(he will 2-3 times) unload on him.
With the bow, it's just a game of keep away. Get the Anja bow, aim for the horn. When you drop him, spam power shots and rocks.
With any of these weapons, you will be able to kill him in about 8 minutes.
Just bring thunder mantel. And eat a meal for large elemental defense. It would be nice to have armor that has decent thunder resistance as well.
Isaiah Evans i like to add if you go with the bow and constantly shoot his face he staggers and falls somewhat often.
I felt the same way about Tempered Kirin before too but later I used a light bowgun and he became more of a breeze. Just be sure you have a good resistance to thunder attacks.
So much of this game is preparation. You can very skilled but if you go in half added you're going to have a hard time.
I love stun resist, it's been one of my go to skills from the beginning. It makes Tzitzi flashes useless and helps against Diablos charge and jump from underground.
lol. This game doesnt take prep, skill outclasses it u can get away with only having mega potions and 2 max pots
@@daltonduffney7846 If you're good enough you can just dodge everything and get gud
Great video as much as I'm playing you think ill know all the stuff you mentioned. I took a part breaker build against the nerg and man it destroyed him. That's pretty impressive. Also quick add on to your guide. Yes flash bombs are important......even more important when you know WHEN to use it instead of spamming it but Dragon Pods. Dragon Pods have dragon seal attached too it. Works really good. If the nerg growing spikes on you fire them at a selected spot spikes fall off nerg also flinches for your fellow hunters, same with daora he looses that wind resistance, teostra looses his fire aura also be careful and pay attention to his aura. If his aura is the blast type I believe you get those lil ball can add the blast blight too you. Now for Vaal, the dragon pod works wonders because it shuts down his miasma quicker which forces to stop and breath in more which opens up for BIG damage. Kirin dragon pod rarely drops because it's too good use it and he looses his super armor. Dragon Pods help big time.
You should emphasize the falling teeth in the Rotten Vale for the Vaal Hazak Fight, and the falling crystal pillars in the Elders Recess for the Nerg, Teostra, and Kushala fights. While the Elder dragons don't go to the place with the crystal pillars as often it's still nice to know when they do go in there. the Tooth room is right outside Vaal's nest and they take out a considerable amount of health.
it may just be asthetics but i cant take anyone who uses full uragaan w/bow serious XD
James boi thats my main suit, im
Like a tank that can fight back
Good video... I'm HR 136 and still find useful tips every day. Honestly never considered running the stun resistance build, but as a DB main, it can get frustrating when Rock Steady is recharging & will definitely give it a try. My luck with randos has not been good, so I solo about 95% since the only thing I run are tempered missions.
RIP flash pod nerfs. Lol.
A good tactic for kirin is glancing with the uragan armour set gemmed for thunder resist.
You get immunity to thunder blight, very good protection with the guard and during his enrage it's fairly easy to mount him and do damage to the head
Greatsword is one of the best weapons for Kirin because Kirin doesn't have much health, and since it hits really hard you can knock him down a lot, which is one of the things you will want to be doing since he moves around a lot. What I do is I run around dodging his lightning attacks, and when there is an opening, I smack him in the head with the greatsword once, put away my weapon and continue dodging his attacks, rinse and repeat, its a really effective way to fight him, it also makes quick sheath/punishing draw builds really effective as well.
There is the arguement to bring a much lighter, more combo based weapon, the problem is he moves around so much that your not gonna be able to get the full combo, this is especially bad for dual blades as those combos tend to have you in one spot as your doing them, which is the worst thing to be doing while fighting any form of Kirin.
If you are crazy enough to bring a combo weapon, you will want to bring the minds eye skill, since Kirin can go into a sort of armor mode, were you'll bounce off of pretty much every part of his body, excluding his head.
This is really good advice!
Two things I would like to add:
1) Flash podding an enraged elder dragon in the middle of their ultimate attack does not remove the ultimate attack; they can still use it shortly after they get stunned
2) If you fail to flash pod the elder dragon while he's escaping, you can lure him off their arena while he's enraged, as they are able to chase you through zones
A good example of that last one is with Daora: you can jump off his nest on multiple areas and he'll follow you down straight away; at least if he's not aggro'd on your teammates. But you can coordinate with friends to make life easier.
5 minute tempered Kirin, and I owe it to you. Tanks, pal!
This video really gave me more confidence in tackling the tempered side of MHW
For kushala, if you wear three of its armour peices, you will have wind negate, while having other good skills that cone with it, like handicraft and evade extender
Tip when nerg dive bombs, just do the superman jump
Just one quick comment, watching the kushala part: Since you are playing HH, there are two horns that buff "all windpressure negated", this allso negates the windshield (but not the tornados). This buff is more effective than just windproof!
the only problem is All Wind Pressure Negated only appears on the Rathian horn and the Vespoid horn, both of which are less effective against Kushala than blast or thunder. It’s sorta like the kirin horn problem where it’s buffs are good for defending against him, but kirin is immune to thunder.
Tyler abstractCourier I used the Vespoid Horn against Kushala, it has white sharpnes, deals good damage and I managed to para him 3 times (despite the 1* in the hunters guide). And the buff is really effective: No interruption = more damage ;-)
Xeno Manasheena has it too
xeno doesn't only has it, it almost makes the whole fight a walk in the park. also, you can walk into the tornados, just avoid the center. that still deals damage.
I should like to see a bazelguese guide i had a lot of trouble with the double tempered bazelguese quest. It would be brilliant if you did something for it like you did the high rank anjanath. Thanks. Excellent video as ever. Keep up the incredible work
It certainly gives me something to think about! Bazelguese is VERY annoying and he is actually kind of difficult to fight
Thank you.
Let them duke it out every time they meet - they do plenty of damage decimating each other :') Also I love exploiting all the sleep toads and gajalakas in the area to snooze them. I think the best strategy is as always keep your combos v short until they're sleeping or out of enraged. All the best!
@@TheGameconomist Bazel is only hard if you fight with melee weapons since that puts you in danger of it's explosions. With a ranged weapon you can easily dodge every move it has. Just use a thunder bow with constitution and weakness exploit or a pierce hbg the fight becomes a walk in the park.
This guide should be either removed or updated. Spamming flash pods mindlessly is the worst thing you could do against tempered elders currently as they will become immune to them after a few uses. If any new player reads this guide you will be giving him a terrible advice.
Finally I'm like this guy doesn't know what he's talking about anymore
If I observed correctly tempered elders become immune after 3 flashes, tempered wyverns 3-4
tempered monsters are immune to being flash after 4 flash. You also don't want to flash Nergi when he does his dive bomb because his black spikes won't be destroyed that way, which mean he will just gonna keep doing the dive until get to finish it
@@myvideo686 What about when teostra does his supernova? Is it pretty much the same thing with the flashpods?
@@omarc8187 nope, teotra lose all his buff if flashed out of super nova so he need time to reapply all self-buff before doing that super move again (i think after 2 buff, not sure about this though)
No you dont have to kill 33 elder dragons for the hero streamstone cuz if its 3% for the drop then its going to be 3% the next time you fight him, the percentage doesnt go up
Poison will also negate Kushala's wind shield and don't flash him while he's in a tornado. The safest place to attack Teostra is from right next to his head and shoulder when he's standing still. Superman diving away from Nergigante's dive bomb or Teostra's super nova is the safest way to survive because there are many more "I" frames than a regular dodge (the same or more than fully upgraded evade).
On the decorations menu, when you're selecting, hit the start button to remove all decorations
Also everyone I know the "elite" players can be over excessive on how you should play but they're trying to warn you for future reference. Every successful MH game brought out G rank later on in the game and with G rank its proven that it's better to build around your play style and core weapon instead of trying to build against the monsters. G rank monsters do too much damage to out build. Every fight will feel like Kirin where you have to be on point dodge more and attack when you make hard reads......and that's the biggest reason why seasonal hunters rather build to their core instead of trying to counter an ability that can be dodged or worked around.
Jamal Edwards World really changed it honestly, especially with how few monsters there are. Right now I'm running a set based around stamina with Vaal Hazak bow and I can handle any monster in the game in 10 minutes or so, including elders (minus Xeno) with relative ease just sliding around and shooting all day.
magnawaves its changed for the casual players. However they said there will be more content in the future. MH always been easy if you're an seasoned hunter even in g rank you'll be used to those critical fights. With the changes of life and easier control system of course seasonal and skilled gamers where going to fly through this game. Biggest reason why its such a huge RNG for gems and decorations.
Jamal Edwards you get it. :)
magnawaves I actually got to this point yesterday lmfao without my spread shot or normal shot jewel xD I’m averaging 9 minutes foror 5 elder dragons cause fuck lunastra
Besides Tremor Resistance, because fuck Deviljho and Rajang.
Nice video, with cool tips. As a bow user, I find Teostra to be by far the easiest one. His moves are very telegraphed, he is very easy to KO and his head is huge so it is very easy for me to aim his weak spot. He is the only elder I can solo in less than 5 minutes almost every time with my elemental ice build.
Great video bro. Just a tip, you should assign craft flash pods to your radial wheel and any other items you want to craft. I m currently using just craft flash pods and it is right next to my equip flash pods on the radial wheel. It makes it so much easier then going into your crafting menu. I have set up all 4 radial wheel with each item pouch load out that I run and I’m able to use all of my items much much faster. I highly recommend it
Another thing, and this is aimed at your kushala gameplay, DO NOT CORNER HORN. If the monster is down, its the most optimal time for everyone, including hunting horns, to deal damage. The damn thing deals near the same amount of damage as a hammer. The best hunting horn for Kushala Daora is not gama horn, but the Xeno'Jiva hunthing horn, for it negates ALL wind pressure. Kushala uses varying levels of wind pressure and gama's wind pressure negation only negates 30% of Kushala's wind pressure. If you still want gama's songs, use the Metal Bagpipe or Deep Vero, which both have the same songs and better damage.
Cannot agree more. That gameplay made me upset the more I watched.
Suboptimal notes, corner horner, suboptimal songs. The horn has a phat attack stat. Why not use it and build/play songs on the monsters face?
Val Hazak is easiest tempered elder IMO. I average 7 1/2 minutes on him solo with the duel blades, and yesterday hit a personal best on him of 4 minutes 18 seconds :)
Andrew J i wish i was as cool as andrew
Mine was 6 minutes 27 seconds
Also did Teostra round about 5-6 min so i dont mention that val is the easiest one :) but ya he is ez
For Vaal Hazak be sure to bring nullberries, it'll mean you can get your healthbar back up, however you health will stay the same so you'll need to heal up as well
As a defense character, I have no problems fighting a tempered Kirin. I have the urrgaan armour which makes me block all attacks regardless. Combine that with lightning resistance just make the fight more easier.
Anti-Kushala set: at least 3 pieces of kushala armor for "Kushala flight"(negates wind pressure), go for the pieces with handicraft( ups sharpness and therefore damage).
Rookslayer longsword( quickly inflicts blast blight, white sharpness with handicraft, long reach). You can add from there, I also like using earplugs, but that's optional.
Yes to the FlashPods!!!! You can also add a autocraft to the quicktab for the FlashPods. Anytime a Elder starts flying flash them to the ground. Free damage phase. With Kushala dont flash him straight up in his tornado let him move out a little or dive once. Hes easy. I use elderseal on him and his fight doesn't feel like a elder fight(Helps with Randoms that come in without anything to help so they can actually attack him past the wind shield). I did a Anti-Val build when he was the event quest. Used Jewels, I wonder if the Xeno armor would help?
If your going to SOS eat for Felyne insurance or moxie. I highly recommend trying sos if you're worried and after 2nd or third unsuccessful attempt try solo. You'll be very surprised with how easy solo is over SOS. I couldnt believe how quick Nerg went down the first time I soloed him. HR 49 Kirin was scary but it only took two trys. Just took the entire 50 mins and went slow. Im dual Blades so Kirin is pretty risky. I saw alot of youtube channels recommend building range to fight him and to put away your melee. To me that was a skill wall to show you if you're ready for HR49+. So I decided to use my dual blades. I have more tips on the others but I feel I wrote too much.
Some things to consider. Starting at High Rank stuff. If you have the Decoration, Mind's Eye can be activated in one Medium Decoration and makes you bounce proof. That knocks out Nergigante' s Armor and Teostra's. Kushala's windshield won't affect your projectiles. Bombs. Bombs. Bombs. Bombs. Always pack Bombs and be ready to Nuke 'Em if they make it back to the nest. It's I think 180 per Mega Bomb×2 Per Person. Big Boom and the whole end of the battle can be avoided.
Vaal hazak is one of the easiest if not the easiest elder for me just use melee weapon you won’t get hit by the garbage laser
ikr ive been doing him because he is the easiest for those 15 minute investigations easy 4 tempered rewards. Teo for me is the most annoying because he is fast. daora is just annoying but not hard because of all of the wind pushing you around
Btw you can jump over most of Vaals attacks with a glaive the only exception is his charge because for some reason his AT version has collision on his wings.
the (in my opinion) best armor against hazak is the hazak armor. farm it with normal hazak and you are good to go. the Health regen exactly heals the amount of Damage its effluvia deals to you and the speeded up recovery (4 times as fast) nearly negates environmental Damage. that together and the Damage boost when your HP are full make a pretty strong armor set. also you have full effluvia protection
This is excellent!! Every time I try to explain this shit to people it's just "Oh you don't need it if you dodge and never get hit" dumbass I see people with like mostly offense builds in tempered elder dragon hunts and I already know who's gonna cart
You can always try to hit kushala, and vals tail or teostra wings when the cloak is up as they're not protected. (If ranged)
Also that place where you're fighting teostra has 2 rocks you can drop on him.
With Val you can drop 2 teeth that are at the entrance to his lair in a place he likes to stop to rest. Also i play with a LBG against him and you can stop both high damage attacks with a flashpod. So as soon as you see it put it away and save your team. After that he usually tacles forward.
Kirin use stun resist, slash ammo, spread ammo to his face, vitality mantle for when hes enraged, thunderproof mantle for small places. (In tight places is when hes more dangerous so thats the place when you need room for mistakes)
1 - Superman dive Nergi's dive instead of rolling, it has a lot more invencibility frames. (run away from the mon with weapon sheathed and press dodge)
2 - Only flash Elders when they are airborne as they get flash immunity after 4 flash pods
3 - only flash Kushala AFTER he leaves the tornado.
4 - Try to get the feline skill Moxie as it prevents you from getting one shot once
5 - Learn the monsters move set and play solo, it's easier to read the monster this way and won't fail for someone else's mistakes. Besides, the monsters hp is scaled up for online, so the kill times with randoms are usually the same as a good solo run.
Bonus tip: a crit draw GS build with lvl 3 sheathing speed and some thunder resist makes Tempered Kirin a walk in the park. Hope this helps someone!
The first time I fought Telstra was the seeing red arena quest and I absolutely ass slammed him after killing the other 3 monsters. It felt so good, probably the best I've played so far tbh
Four or so flash pods and the tempered monsters become immune to flash. You can't spam it. Only bring three. Skip part breaker and bring elderseal high for Nergigante. It prevents and breaks the black spikes.
Thank you stun resist for Kirin got me my first kill and it was without a death.
I'm surprised the Temporal Mantle isn't on this list :P that mantle has saved my life more than I can count!
Hey also you can increase your max health with the vitality gem, this boost stacks with the boost you get from eating, my favorite defensive skill is divine blessing, really is a life saver
couple tips for nergi: 1 you dont need guard up..i am using gs and can block it just fine ( i still take a bit of damage and you do need pretty much a full stamina bar but its doable),
2) i dont reccomend flashing him because then he wont lose his hardened spikes
also for daora: PLEASE DONT FLASH HIM INSIDE the tornado because then some melee weapons like dual blades cant hit him wich is a wasted damage opportunity
for vaal hazak: use his armor...gives effluvia resist lv3 and regenerates health continuously to offset his damage
>Flash Pods, Flash Pods, Flash Pods
This video aged like warm milk
One recommendation I have for people fighting kirin is to adopt hit and run tactics. If you hardly ever stick close to him and only commit for single attacks it makes him much easier. Greatsword users especially should look into making a crit draw set for him, it is so much easier than trying to get a true charge off on him.
When fighting Kirin Solo, Both the Palico Instrument and the Trouper Tailriders can give stun resistance and paralysis resistance. I prefer fighting Kirin alone because I don't have to worry about other people carting and I also don't have to worry about people tripping me to get to the head after I've knocked it down. . Also you can sometimes stop him from getting to the nest by using the slinger ammo if he drops some. There are some places in the Coral Highlands you can pick up Torch Ammo which is nice to have against Kirin since it'll randomly flinch him at times.
Only time I've dealt with Tempered Kirin so far was for the HR limit break mission, but I like fighting him in his nest. There's the place next to camp and his nest, those are the main places he'll be at and he can be in between. In comparison to the places in between, his nest is way bigger.
This video helped me slay Kirin so easliy. So thank you for that.
You forgot to mention Vaal’s healing effect by the way. He heals off of blighted enemies nearby. So if you’re blighted he will do constant dps to you while he’s healing off you and also off of the other smaller enemies in the rotted vale nearby.
Thanks for the great info. Just one thing, you don't need guard up to block Nergigante's dive bomb.
Now you should do an AT elder dragons guide. Well you've already done videos for each AT elder, sharing a secure way to slay them.
Thats on my to do list but the AT elder dragons have been taken out of the game.
@@TheGameconomist true its not like we can take on those quests anytime, contrary to tempered elder investigations
I wonder why in MHW kirin never goes into the ancient forest but in any MH version.. Kirin in the forest/jungle and snowy
It is kinda funny. But, there may be a reason.
Nergigante is generally only found in the Elders Recess(though the storyline hunt is in the Wildspire Wastes), Teostra is only found in the Elders Recess and Wildspire Wastes, Kushala Daora is found in Elders Recess and Ancient Forest, but Kirin and Vaal Hazak are only found in the Coral Highlands and Rotten Vale, respectively. Maybe, since no other Elder dragons can really fit in those locales, Capcom made them exclusive to those locales in some sort of "fairness" whatchamacallit thingy. Doesn't really explain Kushala Daora and Teostra, but those two both hang out in the Elders Recess as well. Maybe the "Fairness" whatchamacallit thingamabobic algorithms decided it would be "fair".
Just letting you all know there is a sliding point in nergigantes sleeping area so use the hammer ( obliterations footfall) and attack level 7
OR just use a lance/gunlance all the time :)
I kinda like the Hokey Pokey but I'm aggressive with gunlance so that never happens
@BB Hoody lol Hokey Pokey 😂😂😂💀
I love how fighting Teostra, you were using Thunderproof Mantle instead of Fireproof Mantle xD
For Kirin just solo it. It may sound daunting but it’s far more dangerous fighting Kirin with other people because the attacks are much less predictable and can seem random at times, especially when the Kirin is switching targets randomly. I’ve also found that staying close works well since some of the hardest attacks to dodge are long range.
You don't need Guard Up to block Nergigante's divebomb. I know this because I've blocked it several times before without the skill. Guard Up makes it possible to block otherwise unblockable attacks like Teostra's supernova and I believe Vaal Hazak's beam. Nergigante's divebomb is not an unblockable attack. Nergigante's divebomb is so hard to block normally because it also has multiple small hits that can hit you while you block until you run out of stamina, and when you try to block an attack without stamina, the attack goes through and hits you anyway. If you want to counterbuild, what you want instead is the Guard skill. Guard makes it so that you hold your ground better when you block attacks, and it takes less stamina to do so. Taking Guard will reduce the stamina cost of blocking these small attacks and make it much easier to stop the divebomb from breaking your guard.
You recommend using Flash Pods to stop Nergigante's divebomb, but first, Nergi's detection with Flash Pods is very finicky while he performs that move, so it's not always reasonable to flash him. Second, the black spikes covering Nergi cause lower damage and bouncing, but Nergi loses all those spikes when he divebombs, making him vulnerable afterward, so it may be a better idea to, instead of flashing him out of the attack, simply dodge the attack and take advantage of the fact that he's lost his spikes to deal more damage.
Also, did you just tell people to try evading at the right time to avoid Teostra's supernova? If I'm interpreting what you said correctly, that's not good advice. If you want to use invulnerability from dodges to avoid the attack, you get 6 frames of invincibility while you dodge, and I believe Teostra's supernova also takes up exactly 6 frames. In other words, you'd have to time your dodge perfectly to I believe somewhere between a 30th or a 60th of a second to pull that off. If Teostra's going supernova, just use the superman dive to dodge it. Even if he roars, you should still have just barely enough time to sheathe your weapon to perform the dodge.
Actually, val is to me the easiest one to kill with nerg next in line. All you really need for val is nulberry so when you do become effected by efluvia just eat the seed and its gone. You will have to bring your health back up after that though. Also if you happen to be under the efluvia blight when he stands up and does his extended inhale he will actually steal your health so you have to be sure to immediatly consume the nulberry as soon as you are aflicted by the efluvia
Always bring life powder, mega barrels bombs.
If your a lance main try minds eye vs nerg as you will most likely get punished during black spike deflectios,
Even if you build wind res 5 from decoration it has no effect against Kushala, but his armour set wind negate is effective, so consider farming his much easier non temp version first, also rocksteady,evasion & vitality mantel help.
Kiren is best to solo, but if your a hammer main remember flinch free in multiplayer and take full advantage of slopes and ledge attacks and big bang combo when kiren is down.
You may want earplugs for Vaal, as if your directly in front of him and near he will roar combo you, you can also negate roar by timing block with Lance.
Teos most annoying move is his running straight into you imo, fight is much easier if you have weapon with shield.
Most of all, never give up, keep at it, review your habits, min max your load out, maybe try a different weapon if your main isn't effective.
I'm a Lance main, beaten every monster with it except Lunastra, had to try ranged weapons for her.
Teostras explosive balls can cause explosive blight if you go through them, but it rarely happens to me so it’s probably low build up.
Stun resist charm should be the first charm to get for a someone new as it means you can take a hit and still run to get away.
Ranged users against fire/wind shields, if you aim at the head or tail tip, your shots will still go through
You didn't mention Teostra's enraged roar and trample attack. I've died to those more times than any other move in the game because it can link it directly to other attacks. In one attempt I carted to a roar combo three times in a row. I think lvl5 earplugs is a must for Teostra.
I fought Kirin once in low rank and once in high rank and after people said all the time he is really hard to kill I tryed Temp Kirin for the first time once I unlock it solo, I have no usefull decorations beside the attack jewel that we get for free, I used my Karma LBG had had a REALLY easy fight using Normal Shot 2, so I think he is hard to meele since you can't stop most of your attacks with most of the meeles at any point and most of his powerfull lightning strike are the one that he cast on himself at meele range, HBG might have no problems too and bow as well.
Use weapons with elder seal. In doing so, every hit you make, somehow suppresses the special ability/attack of elder dragons and to have a fair fight with them.
Aren't there 2 kinds of wind pressure negation. With personal testing, I've noticed the game horn doesn't really negate kushala's wind pressure armor. But the rajang horn wind pressure negate does take the armor down for whatever reason... maybe they just need to update it, so it functions the same across all horns that have this skill, instead of having literally different levels of wind negation.
Earplug lv5 is pretty useful against tempered Teostra. He likes to roar and attack you while you're stuned.
tempered elder dragons strategic guide: GID GUD
EZ Tips for Tempered Kirin. Light Bowgun with Slicing ammo. If you run out go back to base and reload. Use the Thunderproof and Vitality mantle. The only resist I use is the canteen buff. GG EZmode.
For Kush me and my friends will run poison as it has the same effect as elder seal it temporary disables his wind moves. Kirin I bring the thunder proof mantle just so you don't have to gear too much thunder res as it a meet you half way sort of deal. General thing that never seems to fail is sleep bombing. Run 4 sleep weapons with the melee who will hit have bomber 3 and at least 1 light bow gun with special ammo boost and set 3 mines by the bombs for extra damage. Building around ecade window and extender never hurts to try and gear in. Just some things I've done with my group. Not meta or anything just some nice tips.
Thunderproof mantle for Kirin. Fireproof mantle for Teostra. Surprised those weren't mentioned at all.
I'll add it to the pinned comment, I use Rocksteady mantle in both cases and I think most expert players do
TheGameconomist Indeed, and while I do love to rock steadily myself, I don't think expert players are searching for strategy guides for these guys. Overall great tips though! :)
Thanks for the great advice! :D Also love your HH reviews ~
Good tip for building effluvium build up wear val hazak's pants and one gem easy max the skill
Using the environmental damage makes the fight a lot easier like in the elders recess ( the falling boulders or stalagmites) there are 2 and both do up to 800 damage a piece and knock him down very good for Teostra, nergigante, kushala doara and then the bone shards on Vaal do 1000 so those can help you get a lot of damage in ontop of the environmental
For val there a secret mover that he does where he pretended to fall over and if you are a melee attacker be careful around his head cause it will one shot you it happend to me and my friend it's very hard to tell cause the animation is very similar
So everyone is aware Teostra, Kushala Daora and Xeno' Jiva have dragon damage capabilities and are currently the only 3 elder dragons to have dragon damage abilites in MHW, Peeps might want to think about using a little dragon resistance when fighting these tempered elders and when fighting Xeno' Jiva using the blue seed heals blight effects perfect for xeno' jivas dragon blight he sometimes casts
You should add the craft flash-pods and craft mega potions to your radial menu. I craft my flash-pods on the fly after using one or 2 so that I never have to re-equip them. Plus you can craft these pods mid combo or when you’ve been knocked on your butt. Oh and... USE THE RADIAL MENUE people. An easy way to up you game if you’re not using it already. I started using mine after 100 hours of gameplay, and now I use all 4 wheels of my radial menues. Extemely handy, and in my opinion makes you a better player as it helps you to be more reactive. My “X” is alway on mega potions, only time i change it is for mantles. How it makes you more reactive is you never have to scroll threw your items. Null berries, Antidotes, powders and seeds for buffs, grindstone, max potions, barrel bombs, traps all in a a set spot you can react to them with a single button push not scrolling 5 over then 5 back with the slide menu.
You can only flash tempered monsters 3 times. And you should use them at teostra nova and stuff like that
I like the glider mantle for kirin's nest.Mount kirin and stop it moving watch out for lighting it will knock you down or kill you. This strategy can be risky.
I beat tempered Kirin first try using full Vaal Hazak amor and the nergi insect glaive with a blast kinsect.
I just played very passively. I would gain my buffs. Then stick my kinsect to him. Wait for an opening and do one running attack to him Kirin and a blast cloud. I focused on Dodging abilities and only hitting him when completely safe. I also used my kinsect for most of my damage. Using the same ability you use to get buffs you can use that to slam the kinsect into him over and over agin. It's not much damage. About 15-20 per hit. But its damage you can do while keeping yourself safe.
I did have any range weapon on me. So I used my Glaive as a half ranged half melee build. Worked really well. Fainted twice the first fight and fought him again and didn't faint once. Just took patience
Would love a updated video.
1. Superman Dive Divebomb vs letting flashpodding .
2. Teo just firemantle and elemental resistance food buff and armor
3. Kushala DA-OR-A basically dont flash him in tornadoes. He stuns sorta easily
4.Val just get immunity mantle and Great girros waste and health buffs
5. thunder pony break his damn horn and thunder mantle and just watch his attack patterns. light beams just dont stand in them.
6. Lunastra-Fire proof AND COOL DRANKS. Flash pod to when close to charge to set off nova sooner. blue flames can be put out with with water pods. Breaking her wings and cut tail because that stupid tail hit box..
@thegameconomist the xeno hunting horn negates the winds better since it's a different buff.
Can't say about regular Lance, but Long3/Long4 Gunlance is for me the preferred method of fighting Vaal. Guard up, Guard, Effluvia resistance, Vitality up, health booster, health back augment. Just guard and blast his face, rinse and repeat. To be fair, the exact same tanky setup also works wonders against Nergigante too. No need to worry about his divebomb if you can guard that bitch.
I got the core game a few weeks back, recently reached HR 50 and wanted to try solo a tempered elder dragon, but I had no idea how to get those investigations, so, as a freaking noob, I went to the events option and find the elder dragons icons with an aura (at this moment I had no idea they where arch-tempered), and decided to try kirin. After 20-25 min of struggle I managed to kill it, however, I was still a little confused for the aura in the icon, why was it orange? I investigated a little about the tempered elder dragons and, after finding your videos, I discovered that, not only I am a moron, but that I managed to first try an arch-tempered kirin. How in heck did I managed to do that?!
use the clear mind charm for heat resistance and effluvial expert two birds one stone