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I really miss Akantor. Such a great fight, not massive, but also not small. And just a powerhouse of a monster, where 1 hit even with the best armour may not be enough to survive. Plus, he just looked AMAZING!
@@NipplesTheEnchilada2323 Even though he doesn't fly. Lol. He deserves to come back. Plus! He wouldn't be hard to add to the game because he doesn't require a special arena. Just an arena.
@@NipplesTheEnchilada2323 honestly I wish they would bring back akantor and ukanlos and properly classify then as elder dragons or at the very least elder dragon level fanged wyverns Fucking flying wingless frog shaped bastards they are
It was revamped for shara back in iceborne and valstrax in rise. The magalas aren't even that important. Plus if you look you'll see that Nergigante already was the gore skeleton revamped. Look at how Nergis wings sit on his shoulders just like gore's do. They share a skeleton. So the skeleton existing doesn't mean much
Zorah Magdaros may be the bulkiest monster we've had thus far. Shame that the massive-scale turtle was more of a set piece and plot piece in World than a proper fight. Other than that, I think Dalamadur deserves a comeback as serpentine monsters of that scale really haven't been a thing in recent MH games as much.
Zorah Magdaros was never ment to be a proper fight, it's not like Shara Ishvalda, Zorah Magdaros fight it's perfect for what it has to be and for what it represents
I would love some more of the monolithic size monsters new or returning (imagine the next MH game has special maps where they can have seige sized monsters just naturally rotate out and you actually get to fight them organically ,stuff like safi, gog, dalamadur, etc) Btw ik very well that this wont happen but I can think about it
The developers themselves once said in an interview that underwater in 3rd gen just took way too much development resources. Don't think just making the movesets work underwater; think about any movement, physics, mechanics, or orientation in the water at all. For the most part, underwater combat is mechanically closer to a second game than a feature. Also keep in mind they would not be able to use much from 3rd gen because new mh is incredibly different, far beyond what fans of the games understand. I'm sure they could make it fun, but would the tradeoff even be worth it? I'd guess probably not even close for most people.
Maybe a few generations in the consoles would allow underwater to return, if they will have enough assets to work with in order to lighten the development of ground fights. If they could develop it, it could probably be one of the main selling points of future MH games -- the inclusion of actual and good underwater combat in a game which is rarely, if ever, tackled.
Yeah but that was literally over a decade ago, and now they have a bigger, more experienced team, better tech to work with, and presumably a bigger budget allocated by Capcom's higher-ups on account on the success and growth of the franchise following the 5th gen.
@@Going4Broke2528 and? They’ll put that into making a better monster hunter game. On land. No matter what you say, adding an entire underwater mechanic will halve or close to halve how much they can add in terms of monsters.
They had limited success adding underwater combat in 3rd gen even with the relatively simple moveset weapons had back then. Making it work with the much more elaborate movesets weapons now have would take an absurd amount of work and there’s still the risk that it will again not be that fun. It’s just not worth it. I would like to see a return to underwater MH, but in a spinoff with its own mechanics and gear distinct from mainline MH.
I still hope for Ahtal-ka to return in future games. Would be really awesome if capcom make a new area for her, different from the fortress ruins, but with new tools for her to use, even to create a new empress throne with some design changes. But yeah, it's unlikely to happen...
I think Ahtal-ka has a chance to return in Sunbreak because although not related, there are two spider monsters there already, meaning the concept of using silk and web is already there, and it wouldn’t be too hard to implement, plus with how crazy Sunbreak is already, a giant bug with a giant mech doesn’t sound too crazy.
I hope they will return, such amazing Fights and armor Sets. Dalamadur, Jhen Moran, Dire Miralis, Ceadeus, every Single one unique and in modern games these Fights would be absolutely breathtaking. Would love to see underwater combat Return someday.
I hope that too, for me it was such an important part of playing Monster Hunter, you know? Something like playing a brand new Rainbow Road and Bowser Castle in a new Mario Kart
@@josevaldez1347 Yeah, and some of that Fights where the most memorable, Jhen, Gogmazios and Lao are Fights i still remember the most when looking back on the series. Still kinda hope Gog will return in Sunbreak, but i guess that not gonna happen sadly.
@@crowzet0 some like it, some dont, that's ok, Tri was my first monster hunter, and the Fights looked pretty amazing in my opinion, not perfect Performance wise but alright all in all.
Safi jiiva is extinct in the new world, we don’t know if theres other safi in old and forbidden world also there is still a safi jiiva alive, mother or father of the xeno and safi of the new world
12:07 Wouldn't Gaismagorm from Sunbreak count as a *massive* Elder Dragon? When observing its size, it appears to be as large as Dire Miralis and Gogmazios. Also, wouldn't Gaismagorm's quest-layout count as a siege?
Theoretically I think they could reintroduce underwater combat. And I have an idea as to how they could do it, they could have us sink to the bottom with air tanks so we don’t drown the combat would be almost exactly like fighting ibushi and Narwa but with different monsters. It would still be one hell of a design ask
This is a very smart way to do it. I believe I have seen something like this in Runescape as well, so its a smart way to get around doing the insane amount of weapons animations. The other way they could do it would be basically to set up 1 monster hunter game on the current engine where they do underwater and incorporate all the animations at a limited roster, and then they could use that as their stepping stone and port a lot of the animations and stuff into future titles. Sort of how like Elden Ring has a lot of the same skeletons, boss types, and animations from the older games.
It's a double edged blade imo Simplified works accounts for being cheap and lazy But all out Dev is exhausting on it's own Not impossible tho. With a lot of returning assets and stuff, they might be able to do it in the far future
I know Rotten Vale might be the last time we see Dalamadur for a while, but I'm always holding out hope for his return! One of my favorite Seige fights ever, I do wonder if we'll ever get anything else similar to that or Raviente again
Imagine they pull what they did with Fatalis in world with Dalamadur in Rise... I'd probs lose my shit- But only if the fight turns out challenging worthy to be the final Elder dragon in rise c:
Siege battles are awesome, but it's true Sunbreak doesn't really have one. Although, I'm surprised you didn't mention Sunbreak's final boss fight, which does have limited siege mechanics and a massive monster comparable in size to the 'Jiiva family or Kulve Taroth.
It would be a coastal battle where maybe you used siege weapons to get him out, making it similar to Zora. EXCEPT maybe he would come out of the water and start doing some almudron stuff except larger shifting tectonic plates and spewing magma. Like make him amphibious instead of aquatic so you have a dynamic fight with a variety of phases. He has potential to be a center piece fight
Ceadeus is music wise and majesty wise my fav. Dalam was a fantastic fight. Gogmazios was incredible and the dragonspike glued on his back being part of the fight was genius
if we get a monster hunter game at some point in the future with both underwater combat and super vertical movement (wirebug-esc) that might be dire miralis's only chance to return, similarly with dalamadur for the vertical movement part
It hurts me so much to think Ahtal-Ka won't return (most likely) Ahtal Ka, ironically, is perfect for Rise, since the silk she uses combines perfectly with the wirebug system And because she is really smart, it blows my mind all the possibilities with an ahtal-ka fight in rise sunbreak Can you imagine an Ahtal Ka riding other monsters? Yes, hilarious but, would be awesome If Ahtal-Ka were added in rise, and still maintain her theme and bring back again the XX proof of a hero (definitely the best, no discussion) it would be a really crazy fight, just see the epicity in Ibushi and Narwa allmother
could you imagine ahtal-ka showing up during the allmother fight and, where every other elder dragon gets throttled so you can ride them and return the favor, *riding narwa*
Minor distinction, but it's important to note that Ahtal-Ka is not actually an Elder Dragon! Despite being a final boss, it is in fact just a very powerful Neopteron.
This was a great video, but I will have to disagree on Ahtal-Ka and Dire Miralis. My counter arguement stems from the fights with Alatreon and Fatalis in World. Those are completely different fights then there originals and I feel the same treatment can be applied to at least these examples, it just requires a new circumstance or situation for both monsters.
We absolutely have to bring back underwater combat. It's not really an option not to. They can do it better, but cutting out half the biomes in the world isn't realistic if MH is going to survive another generation.
Under water hunts could come back, but would have to come via the form of a universal hunting method like a specific underwater weapon or an event type hunt where you're in a submergible or something along those lines.
I never had the chance to fight any such giant, so I'm still hoping Sunbreak brings one back to test the wirebugs on it, my personal wish would be Shen Gaoren BUT with a fifth gen twist and it wears the Zorah skull. Also WTAF Dalamadur has LEGS!?
nah, don't think so. switch capability were being pushed to its limit with fights like narwa/ibushi and gaismagorm. don't think they will give us another massive fights on rise/break
@@bufospErm Dire Miralis was on 3ds, Ceadus on wii and 3ds golden ceadus 3ds, akantor psp, uknalos psp and switch, dalamdur 3ds, three fatalis psp, 3ds. Jhen wii and 3ds, Lao Shan lung psp and switch, Shen Ghoran psp, Yama psp, gogmazios 3ds. They are smaller consoles and managed loads of massive monsters
Don't forget MHXX on the 3DS (and by extension MHGU on the Switch) having Ahtal-Ka and Nakarkos in addition to Lao-Shan Lung and the Fatalis trio (and Ukanlos, and Akantor, and... you get the point.) So that's even more proof that they could accomplish this on the Switch if they really wanted to
The thing is for Dalamadur I had made a compiled list of votes from hunter's choice top monster (variants, deviants, and monsters that were vote split by species were put together into one vote) and Dalamadur ended up in top 20, at 19th place
Semi Aquatic monsters: Capcom can make Boats a unique way to hunt then using boats similar to Jhen Mohran and Dahren Mohran, if there was a closed area like that with water on it and balissta and and a land and no Swimming mechanic then they will just force us to make use Balista and cannon until the monster comes out for a second phase or something like that.
I think in paradise they could return some of these monsters just for the heck of it. I know they are basically spectacle fights but they are cool. Could be done with the power of next gen consoles since if they do bring these back they want to have them in special arenas with giant fights.
Why has Capcom never partnered with Toho to bring Godzilla as a guest monster? You can replace Lao-Shan Lung and have the Godzilla theme playing in the background and BAM, memorable fight.
perhaps the image of godzilla being defeated by hunters/human may affect the fan perception of the franchise. but yeah, wouldn't mind to fight other monsters in the franchise as well
Lagiacrus was going to be in world but they had trouble getting his skeleton and animation to work properly so they just canned him all together. There’s beta footage of him
Ooh sudden idea for Dire Miralis revamp, maybe like Iceborne Fatalis or Safi they could have it so you can only go in the water and attack his body at certain moments when its weakened, like imagine if regularly the water around him would be too hot to be in and you'd take gradual damage as he heats back up.
Everyone defends their home game, I was introduced to tri when I was around 7. The water combat was perhaps my favorite part, feeling sluggish and small because you were not running on solid ground but swimming with heavy gear. It was pretty neat. It’ll be sad not to see water combat return but I understand why. ❤
Gogmazios is still my favorite fight to date. That arena was so well done and just gog himself having old rusted parts on his body, being able to knock off the dragonator on its back to use it against him, having one person bring powder token and hopefully not missing the one window of time to hit. such an epic fight.
of all monsters I hope they bring back, I really want to see Xeno/Safi'Jiiva return in the future... honestly Safi' is starting to become my favorite monster...
...All Mother Narwa isn't the biggest monster in Rise/Sunbreak. Did y'all forget about Gaismagorm? I'm pretty sure that counts as a new giant dragon that y'all were asking for... right?
Underwater combat returning is a pipe dream, but it would be amazing if they ever decide to try it again. Until then I'll hold out hope for Dalamadur since that is much more likely
I started monster hunter with tri then got freedom 2 and unite! I kinda miss underwater fights though I could feel the monsters where more alive in the way the fought both in land and underwater.
I'm just saying, with how much different monster variants have become, I really hope that one day we get a Dire Miralis variant that can control its body temperature and doesn't need to stay underwater anymore.
I think it's especially sad that probably almost all Monster Hunter Online/Frontiers monsters won't return. Which is kinda weird since there are a lot of cool ones and a lot of people all over the world are probably not that familiar with them.
Never say never. As tech gets better these guys may return. I didn't play much of the handheld games but did touch on the consoles. Perhaps one day we may get to see them again or remastered titles. I doubt it but I have hope.
Nothing stopping you from going back and fighting them :) If you haven't tried World it's still very much populated (maybe even the most) and one of, if not the best Monster Hunter experience out there, both visually and gameplay-wise.
@@KokotoHero-N3 Agreed. World is the best MonHun experience atm imo. It takes more patience than Rise's more casual gameplay design, but it also feels much more alive in return.
world/iceborne also got several (yes you read that right) massive monsters you can fight outside of its final bosses (xeno jiiva and shara ishvalda). kulve taroth, safi jiiva, behemoth (dunno whether you can consider it as massive dragon, but at least for me it was different), last and definitely not least, fatalis itself. yeah i skipped zorah magdaros. that fight wasn't fun at all. sadly, rise/break haven't got any fun massive boss fights outside its final bosses.
Based off of the trailer dropped for MHWilds, there’s a chance that some of the gargantuan monsters come back. And I really hope we get a fight between them.
When you think on it, the previous games that most of these huge monsters appeared in where in the Nintendo DS/3DS, so they were limited with the hardware. I can understand the underwater monsters, but I really want to be able to fight Dalamadur in some way shape or form. They could potentially do it if they do another console release, not including the Switch.
I know people hate underwater combat but it was fun (well for me at least) but I wish mh rise hat it due to the wire bug we could of moved quickly under the water or in this new monster hunter wilds game coming out next year they could add it due to a item in the hunters arm like the slinger/clutch claw I can see a harpoon like attachment to pull the hunter towards the monster I can imagine harpooning a royal ludroth and being pulled towards it and attacking it
Y’know… While fighting Zorah, I never really took into consideration of how huge it really was. All the other massive monsters look so tiny in comparison 😭
Dalamandur was just about as big, but it wasn't a gimmick fight. Outside of climbng the mountain just to get a drop attack, much the same way you did in Dark Souls 3 for the ancient wyvern. It wasn't a kill move though, just an easy damage phase. It was a standard hunt, against a very much not standard opponent. You couldn't even lock on to the whole thing, you would have to focus on its tail or face. You could also be a gangster and roll off the cliff and land on a platform right below its arm, and basically camp his armpit. Never managed to do enough damage solo before running out of time.
I don't know or care how. I just want them to bring back Laviente from Frontiers (or just monsters and unique gameplay from Frontiers and Online in general because it would suck for them to have to die with those games after they shut down in 2019).
I'd love to see a game where they just keep adding older monsters to the list, and new variations, thats mainly what im hoping will happen with the 6th gen game. Mainly because my 1st experiance with a MH game wasnt till world, and I abosultly fell in love with the franchise, but knowing there are monsters I've never seen or got to take on, makes me wish they were in World or will come back in future installments.
If you have a Switch, a good way to experience a lit of the older monsters is to play GU. I started with World and went back to GU to face the older monsters. Once you get used to the older gameplay, it's pretty fun.
Rise/sunbreak would be the perfect game for Dalamadur, Yamatsukami and Shen Gaoren to return. I'll keep hoping until they stop doing title updates. Yamatsukami hasn't been in a mainline game since MHFU, 14 (!!!!!!!) YEARS AGO
Not sure if anyone has said it but the first game that comes to mind with me for underwater/above land combat is shadow of the colossus, old game but a phenomenal game
The idea of not seeing Dalamadur or Dah'ren again makes me pretty sad. Hopefully Capcom will surprise us somewhere down the line. It would even be cool if we got remasters of these games.
maybe the gimic of the next game will be PVP, like people useing monsters to controll and conqor villiages and the new function is to tame some monsters as actual mounts (like Palamutes) but the combat mechanic is an engine like in JEDI Fallen Order with a block/parry with all types of weapons , making PVP possible. You know to save the monsters, what do you think, Team Darkside?
I need Dire Miralis and Gogmazios back so bad... 😫 They should focus more on MH6 and etc. More than the side ones. Rise is good but lack the MH feeling MHW gives. GL in rise thank you Capcom. I don't hate rise but is like a boss rush. (And hope next gen only for better content too.)
Rise ain't a spin-off. It's a main series game just like World. Plus, they have two teams working on two entirely different games. The team who made MH1, Dos, 3U, 4U, and World. And the team that made Freedom Unite, P3rd, GU, and now Rise. One developing a game doesn't take away anything from the other. And honestly, it's neat seeing what each team does each generation
@@alderwield9636 You know what i mean you actually hunt and find the monster and the other shit not like in rise that just say where the monster is go kill and gone.
@@alderwield9636 The irony is, people at one point said World didn't feel like MonHun when it was the newest thing. And we'll continue going through this cycle as long as games get made. People bitched about 3U, then 4U, then GU, then World, and now Rise. And people will probably bitch about MH6
@@dakotasandifer3651 its a never ending cycle I know, but the community has grown so large that it almost impossible to stop it. Well scrap the 'almost'
never say never... all the monsters can make a return even if the fight feels a bit different while i do agree that underwater combat is a lost cause for all the reasons mentioned and then some if they bring vehicle back in the game we can experience underwater combat in 1 of 2 ways: - take a customizable submarine(primarily plays as gunning weapons do now but has some limited melee potential) and go kill a fully aquatic monster - or make hunts in 2 stages for amphibious monsters where stage 1 is to chase the monstrous of the water with the vehicle and finish it on the ground not to mention they can bring air balloons for monsters like yama tsukami or boats for fights like the mohrans also while al talkall might not come with the same mecha as it used in XX it doesnt mean that it cant make a return with something more epic im personally hoping for a story where some poachers are trying to recreate the dragon equal weapon they heard of in some folk legend but fail and due to the high concentration of monster parts they have collected for the duration of the entire game an al talkall shows up and highjack the dragon equal weapon corps and reanimates it as its new nest and dalamadur has no real excuse of not making a return other then the devs preferring to make a new snake that feels more unique rather then recreating an outdated fight
Ever since sunbreak released I've been in the corner quietly chanting "dalamadur!, dalamadur!, dalamadur!" And still am. I just really want to climb it with wire bugs lol.
I've played all these old Monster Hunter games and defeated solo all of these monsters with a greatsword. It's a shame monster Hunter games have declined so much, I find MHRise really boring, boring enough to don't buy sunbreak
Tower of Fantasy CN version 2.4 giving under water battle tho i might said it's not a decent one as there's not much changed between land and underwater battle and you literally had unlimited oxygen due to the lore giving you a tool for water breather and the game suck on globul
I think Gogmazios would be such a cool final TU elder for the next game’s G expansion. I think they could give it the Iceborne Fatalis treatment and bring it back in a really big way. Otherwise I would also love to see Dalamadur or an updated Lao Shan Lung come back!
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I really miss Akantor.
Such a great fight, not massive, but also not small.
And just a powerhouse of a monster, where 1 hit even with the best armour may not be enough to survive. Plus, he just looked AMAZING!
My favorite part of Akantor is the fact that he isn't even an Elder Dragon, like most would assume. He's a Flying Wyvern, weirdly enough.
@@NipplesTheEnchilada2323 Even though he doesn't fly. Lol. He deserves to come back. Plus! He wouldn't be hard to add to the game because he doesn't require a special arena. Just an arena.
No fr Akantor had to be one of the best obstacles to overcome. It was so fun hunting him
@@selfmadetjh8889 yesssss! Such a hard earned victory!
@@NipplesTheEnchilada2323 honestly I wish they would bring back akantor and ukanlos and properly classify then as elder dragons or at the very least elder dragon level fanged wyverns
Fucking flying wingless frog shaped bastards they are
I’m still holding out hope for gogmazios to return in sunbreak with the six limbed skeleton being revamped for gore and shagaru.
It was revamped for shara back in iceborne and valstrax in rise. The magalas aren't even that important. Plus if you look you'll see that Nergigante already was the gore skeleton revamped. Look at how Nergis wings sit on his shoulders just like gore's do. They share a skeleton. So the skeleton existing doesn't mean much
It's just the bulk elder skeleton. Actually seems like one of the Devs favourite. Nergi, Xeno, Safi, Magnamalo, they really like using it.
would be funny if they gave gog tar laser a new animation like valstrax or shara's laserbeam
Same here
Gogs skeleton is the same as Shara and Gais so it’s definitely possible, but unlikely. I want him or Dala or Amatsu but 😔 unlikely
Zorah Magdaros may be the bulkiest monster we've had thus far. Shame that the massive-scale turtle was more of a set piece and plot piece in World than a proper fight. Other than that, I think Dalamadur deserves a comeback as serpentine monsters of that scale really haven't been a thing in recent MH games as much.
WE WANT SNAKES WE WANT SNAKES
BRING US MORE SNAKE WYVERNS
Zorah Magdaros was never ment to be a proper fight, it's not like Shara Ishvalda, Zorah Magdaros fight it's perfect for what it has to be and for what it represents
If Zorah ever returns, I think it would be cool if it was a map
@@KaaliaJeht the guiding lands is zorah
@@KaaliaJeht maybe could serve for a map that has a variant of nergigante that has a symbiotic relationship or something
I would love to see a Dalamadur sized monster appear in a new MH game.
I hope we get it in sunbreak ;-;
Hope they save it for the final title update of sunbreak as the big finally monster like fatalis was for iceborn
@@agentcreeper200 probably will be amatsu instead
I would love some more of the monolithic size monsters new or returning (imagine the next MH game has special maps where they can have seige sized monsters just naturally rotate out and you actually get to fight them organically ,stuff like safi, gog, dalamadur, etc)
Btw ik very well that this wont happen but I can think about it
Go big or go home, dalamadur was such a unique fight, it was amazing.
The developers themselves once said in an interview that underwater in 3rd gen just took way too much development resources. Don't think just making the movesets work underwater; think about any movement, physics, mechanics, or orientation in the water at all. For the most part, underwater combat is mechanically closer to a second game than a feature.
Also keep in mind they would not be able to use much from 3rd gen because new mh is incredibly different, far beyond what fans of the games understand. I'm sure they could make it fun, but would the tradeoff even be worth it? I'd guess probably not even close for most people.
Maybe a few generations in the consoles would allow underwater to return, if they will have enough assets to work with in order to lighten the development of ground fights.
If they could develop it, it could probably be one of the main selling points of future MH games -- the inclusion of actual and good underwater combat in a game which is rarely, if ever, tackled.
@@eandlbloodflower6765 agreed. It may have been more costly back then, and easier to achieve now. Who knows
Yeah but that was literally over a decade ago, and now they have a bigger, more experienced team, better tech to work with, and presumably a bigger budget allocated by Capcom's higher-ups on account on the success and growth of the franchise following the 5th gen.
@@Going4Broke2528 and? They’ll put that into making a better monster hunter game. On land. No matter what you say, adding an entire underwater mechanic will halve or close to halve how much they can add in terms of monsters.
They had limited success adding underwater combat in 3rd gen even with the relatively simple moveset weapons had back then. Making it work with the much more elaborate movesets weapons now have would take an absurd amount of work and there’s still the risk that it will again not be that fun. It’s just not worth it. I would like to see a return to underwater MH, but in a spinoff with its own mechanics and gear distinct from mainline MH.
I still hope for Ahtal-ka to return in future games. Would be really awesome if capcom make a new area for her, different from the fortress ruins, but with new tools for her to use, even to create a new empress throne with some design changes. But yeah, it's unlikely to happen...
I think Ahtal-ka has a chance to return in Sunbreak because although not related, there are two spider monsters there already, meaning the concept of using silk and web is already there, and it wouldn’t be too hard to implement, plus with how crazy Sunbreak is already, a giant bug with a giant mech doesn’t sound too crazy.
if i recall lorewise ahtal-ka designs their mechs after giant monsters they see. So you could quite literally get a lot of things.
I hope they will return, such amazing Fights and armor Sets. Dalamadur, Jhen Moran, Dire Miralis, Ceadeus, every Single one unique and in modern games these Fights would be absolutely breathtaking. Would love to see underwater combat Return someday.
I hope that too, for me it was such an important part of playing Monster Hunter, you know? Something like playing a brand new Rainbow Road and Bowser Castle in a new Mario Kart
@@josevaldez1347 Yeah, and some of that Fights where the most memorable, Jhen, Gogmazios and Lao are Fights i still remember the most when looking back on the series.
Still kinda hope Gog will return in Sunbreak, but i guess that not gonna happen sadly.
Now imma cry 🥲🥲🥲🥲
underwater combat 🤮
@@crowzet0 some like it, some dont, that's ok, Tri was my first monster hunter, and the Fights looked pretty amazing in my opinion, not perfect Performance wise but alright all in all.
Safi Jiiva is for sure NEVER gonna return considering Alatreon and Fatalis already made it go extinct
Safi jiiva is extinct in the new world, we don’t know if theres other safi in old and forbidden world also there is still a safi jiiva alive, mother or father of the xeno and safi of the new world
12:07 Wouldn't Gaismagorm from Sunbreak count as a *massive* Elder Dragon? When observing its size, it appears to be as large as Dire Miralis and Gogmazios. Also, wouldn't Gaismagorm's quest-layout count as a siege?
Theoretically I think they could reintroduce underwater combat. And I have an idea as to how they could do it, they could have us sink to the bottom with air tanks so we don’t drown the combat would be almost exactly like fighting ibushi and Narwa but with different monsters. It would still be one hell of a design ask
This is a very smart way to do it. I believe I have seen something like this in Runescape as well, so its a smart way to get around doing the insane amount of weapons animations.
The other way they could do it would be basically to set up 1 monster hunter game on the current engine where they do underwater and incorporate all the animations at a limited roster, and then they could use that as their stepping stone and port a lot of the animations and stuff into future titles. Sort of how like Elden Ring has a lot of the same skeletons, boss types, and animations from the older games.
I'd hope you'd still be able to do some floaty shenanigans, just don't make the whole fight floaty shenanigans
It's a double edged blade imo
Simplified works accounts for being cheap and lazy
But all out Dev is exhausting on it's own
Not impossible tho. With a lot of returning assets and stuff, they might be able to do it in the far future
underwater combat had 2 fatal flaws. hit recovery taking so damn long, and lance being the only really good melee weapon for the environment.
They could maybe, maybe, bring back Ceadeus as a raid boss like Kulve.
I know Rotten Vale might be the last time we see Dalamadur for a while, but I'm always holding out hope for his return! One of my favorite Seige fights ever, I do wonder if we'll ever get anything else similar to that or Raviente again
When they announced espinas for sun break I was reallllly hoping for raviente right at the end for sun breaks siege monster but a las it was not to be
Imagine they pull what they did with Fatalis in world with Dalamadur in Rise... I'd probs lose my shit-
But only if the fight turns out challenging worthy to be the final Elder dragon in rise c:
Siege battles are awesome, but it's true Sunbreak doesn't really have one. Although, I'm surprised you didn't mention Sunbreak's final boss fight, which does have limited siege mechanics and a massive monster comparable in size to the 'Jiiva family or Kulve Taroth.
I would love to see Dire Miralis get a redo of his fight loved it’s designed but it just felt like a flightless Fatalis.
How would you get around the swim mechanic and the lore reason why he's in the water
It would be a coastal battle where maybe you used siege weapons to get him out, making it similar to Zora. EXCEPT maybe he would come out of the water and start doing some almudron stuff except larger shifting tectonic plates and spewing magma. Like make him amphibious instead of aquatic so you have a dynamic fight with a variety of phases. He has potential to be a center piece fight
@@EL-Nope Easy, just bring back water combat but make it good. I don't understand why so many people think Capcom is incapable of that.
@@ThiccyRicc he not Aquatic, he just use the water to keep his body colder
Ceadeus is music wise and majesty wise my fav. Dalam was a fantastic fight. Gogmazios was incredible and the dragonspike glued on his back being part of the fight was genius
8:52 this is literally the perfect mh rise monster. If it came back, it would be a massive threat based on how wirebugs work
if we get a monster hunter game at some point in the future with both underwater combat and super vertical movement (wirebug-esc) that might be dire miralis's only chance to return, similarly with dalamadur for the vertical movement part
It hurts me so much to think Ahtal-Ka won't return (most likely)
Ahtal Ka, ironically, is perfect for Rise, since the silk she uses combines perfectly with the wirebug system
And because she is really smart, it blows my mind all the possibilities with an ahtal-ka fight in rise sunbreak
Can you imagine an Ahtal Ka riding other monsters?
Yes, hilarious but, would be awesome
If Ahtal-Ka were added in rise, and still maintain her theme and bring back again the XX proof of a hero (definitely the best, no discussion) it would be a really crazy fight, just see the epicity in Ibushi and Narwa allmother
could you imagine ahtal-ka showing up during the allmother fight and, where every other elder dragon gets throttled so you can ride them and return the favor, *riding narwa*
would love to see akantor and ukanlos in the next game. i dont know why but i love the two
Minor distinction, but it's important to note that Ahtal-Ka is not actually an Elder Dragon! Despite being a final boss, it is in fact just a very powerful Neopteron.
Man seeing all the 3U monsters make the list hurt a little. I have fond memories of hunting all of them and I’m never gonna get to again.
This was a great video, but I will have to disagree on Ahtal-Ka and Dire Miralis. My counter arguement stems from the fights with Alatreon and Fatalis in World. Those are completely different fights then there originals and I feel the same treatment can be applied to at least these examples, it just requires a new circumstance or situation for both monsters.
We absolutely have to bring back underwater combat. It's not really an option not to. They can do it better, but cutting out half the biomes in the world isn't realistic if MH is going to survive another generation.
Under water hunts could come back, but would have to come via the form of a universal hunting method like a specific underwater weapon or an event type hunt where you're in a submergible or something along those lines.
Starting with Tri, I loved it and missed the underwater combat.
I never had the chance to fight any such giant, so I'm still hoping Sunbreak brings one back to test the wirebugs on it, my personal wish would be Shen Gaoren BUT with a fifth gen twist and it wears the Zorah skull.
Also WTAF Dalamadur has LEGS!?
WE ALREADY HAD THIS ISSUE WITH COTTON
nah, don't think so. switch capability were being pushed to its limit with fights like narwa/ibushi and gaismagorm. don't think they will give us another massive fights on rise/break
@@bufosp Which is what will keep it from being the best monster hunter iteration.
@@bufospErm Dire Miralis was on 3ds, Ceadus on wii and 3ds golden ceadus 3ds, akantor psp, uknalos psp and switch, dalamdur 3ds, three fatalis psp, 3ds. Jhen wii and 3ds, Lao Shan lung psp and switch, Shen Ghoran psp, Yama psp, gogmazios 3ds. They are smaller consoles and managed loads of massive monsters
Don't forget MHXX on the 3DS (and by extension MHGU on the Switch) having Ahtal-Ka and Nakarkos in addition to Lao-Shan Lung and the Fatalis trio (and Ukanlos, and Akantor, and... you get the point.) So that's even more proof that they could accomplish this on the Switch if they really wanted to
The thing is for Dalamadur I had made a compiled list of votes from hunter's choice top monster (variants, deviants, and monsters that were vote split by species were put together into one vote) and Dalamadur ended up in top 20, at 19th place
Imagine the Followers helping you take down Amatsu or Jhen Mohran with rampage artilleries.
Man, if only...
heh.
heheheh.
Semi Aquatic monsters: Capcom can make Boats a unique way to hunt then using boats similar to Jhen Mohran and Dahren Mohran, if there was a closed area like that with water on it and balissta and and a land and no Swimming mechanic then they will just force us to make use Balista and cannon until the monster comes out for a second phase or something like that.
I’m 99% sure Gaismagorm is bigger than Narwa/Ibushi
I think in paradise they could return some of these monsters just for the heck of it. I know they are basically spectacle fights but they are cool. Could be done with the power of next gen consoles since if they do bring these back they want to have them in special arenas with giant fights.
Why has Capcom never partnered with Toho to bring Godzilla as a guest monster?
You can replace Lao-Shan Lung and have the Godzilla theme playing in the background and BAM, memorable fight.
Dood! Imagine fighting Ghidorah? Or.......Atal-Ka making its own version of Mechagodzilla?
perhaps the image of godzilla being defeated by hunters/human may affect the fan perception of the franchise.
but yeah, wouldn't mind to fight other monsters in the franchise as well
@@bufosp They can treat it like a "repel" mission, just like when you encounter Lao-Shan for the first time
Damn. I really miss all those water monsters. Besides Ludroth...they are all gone. Even Lagiacrus.
Lagiacrus was going to be in world but they had trouble getting his skeleton and animation to work properly so they just canned him all together. There’s beta footage of him
Ooh sudden idea for Dire Miralis revamp, maybe like Iceborne Fatalis or Safi they could have it so you can only go in the water and attack his body at certain moments when its weakened, like imagine if regularly the water around him would be too hot to be in and you'd take gradual damage as he heats back up.
Everyone defends their home game, I was introduced to tri when I was around 7. The water combat was perhaps my favorite part, feeling sluggish and small because you were not running on solid ground but swimming with heavy gear. It was pretty neat. It’ll be sad not to see water combat return but I understand why. ❤
Lances underwater was so fun. Getting to dart around like a swordfish.
Gogmazios is still my favorite fight to date.
That arena was so well done and just gog himself having old rusted parts on his body, being able to knock off the dragonator on its back to use it against him, having one person bring powder token and hopefully not missing the one window of time to hit.
such an epic fight.
of all monsters I hope they bring back, I really want to see Xeno/Safi'Jiiva return in the future... honestly Safi' is starting to become my favorite monster...
I could argue that narkarkos is a siege monster in some aspects like fatalis and amatsu
...All Mother Narwa isn't the biggest monster in Rise/Sunbreak. Did y'all forget about Gaismagorm? I'm pretty sure that counts as a new giant dragon that y'all were asking for... right?
I simply want Safi'jiiva to return, the best dragon design I have ever seen.
Not to mention the gear holy f****.
Let's never say never, last thing I lose is hope and I hope they bring back underwater combat.
Underwater combat returning is a pipe dream, but it would be amazing if they ever decide to try it again. Until then I'll hold out hope for Dalamadur since that is much more likely
Dalamadur and gogmazios are so liked, I have no doubt they'll return at SOMEPOINT
I started monster hunter with tri then got freedom 2 and unite! I kinda miss underwater fights though I could feel the monsters where more alive in the way the fought both in land and underwater.
1:39 well thats a fucking cool piece of art.
I'm just saying, with how much different monster variants have become, I really hope that one day we get a Dire Miralis variant that can control its body temperature and doesn't need to stay underwater anymore.
Bro forgot abt greatest jagras
I think it's especially sad that probably almost all Monster Hunter Online/Frontiers monsters won't return. Which is kinda weird since there are a lot of cool ones and a lot of people all over the world are probably not that familiar with them.
Akantor, Gogmazios and Ahtal Ka would be so cool to see come back despite the slim chances
Never say never. As tech gets better these guys may return. I didn't play much of the handheld games but did touch on the consoles. Perhaps one day we may get to see them again or remastered titles. I doubt it but I have hope.
You forgetting gaismagorm that boi pretty big close to or at gogmazios and the jivas size
personally i’ve start the monster hunter saga with rise but when i see those big boi, it make me fell sad bc i’ll probably never fight them…
Nothing stopping you from going back and fighting them :)
If you haven't tried World it's still very much populated (maybe even the most) and one of, if not the best Monster Hunter experience out there, both visually and gameplay-wise.
@@KokotoHero-N3 Agreed. World is the best MonHun experience atm imo. It takes more patience than Rise's more casual gameplay design, but it also feels much more alive in return.
world/iceborne also got several (yes you read that right) massive monsters you can fight outside of its final bosses (xeno jiiva and shara ishvalda). kulve taroth, safi jiiva, behemoth (dunno whether you can consider it as massive dragon, but at least for me it was different), last and definitely not least, fatalis itself.
yeah i skipped zorah magdaros. that fight wasn't fun at all.
sadly, rise/break haven't got any fun massive boss fights outside its final bosses.
@@KokotoHero-N3 yea,actually i don’t have bought mhw cuz i don’t have the time to play with my college but now i’m in the holidays so i can play chill
I’m hoping for a Monster Hunter All Stars game where all these big ones come back, along with the final bosses.
I really love Jhen Mohran armour for female character and it's weapons, especially the bow design
I think jhen or dahren has a good chance into coming into wilds or its dlc
Based off of the trailer dropped for MHWilds, there’s a chance that some of the gargantuan monsters come back.
And I really hope we get a fight between them.
Nah, with Iceborne and Sunbreak Capcom is bringing back old final bosses as final title update. These guys can absolutely return in future games
Ceadus was fun, the music and atmosphere is simply memorable.
The Headless from Sekiro have a land-based and water-based version, but not something that you swap between mid-fight.
When you think on it, the previous games that most of these huge monsters appeared in where in the Nintendo DS/3DS, so they were limited with the hardware. I can understand the underwater monsters, but I really want to be able to fight Dalamadur in some way shape or form. They could potentially do it if they do another console release, not including the Switch.
Dalamadur (and Raviente) best giant mosters ever
Imma tell you right now, Dauntless doesn't even have a water based element, let alone underwater combat, but who knows, they may do it eventually
Bruh where my Laviente, keoaruboru, Bogbadorm, and Tartaronis?
I know people hate underwater combat but it was fun (well for me at least) but I wish mh rise hat it due to the wire bug we could of moved quickly under the water or in this new monster hunter wilds game coming out next year they could add it due to a item in the hunters arm like the slinger/clutch claw I can see a harpoon like attachment to pull the hunter towards the monster I can imagine harpooning a royal ludroth and being pulled towards it and attacking it
Y’know… While fighting Zorah, I never really took into consideration of how huge it really was. All the other massive monsters look so tiny in comparison 😭
I'm not counting anything out anymore. Especially with today's technology. ESPECIALLY after they added a Frontier monster.
Anything is on the table.
Under water boss fights...guild Wars 2 and they did it very well.
And monster boss fights should be weird or it's just a damage sponge..... SMH
I've only played world so the largest monster I've fought is Zorah Magdaros which seems like the least fun fight of all the large monster :(
Dalamandur was just about as big, but it wasn't a gimmick fight. Outside of climbng the mountain just to get a drop attack, much the same way you did in Dark Souls 3 for the ancient wyvern. It wasn't a kill move though, just an easy damage phase. It was a standard hunt, against a very much not standard opponent. You couldn't even lock on to the whole thing, you would have to focus on its tail or face. You could also be a gangster and roll off the cliff and land on a platform right below its arm, and basically camp his armpit. Never managed to do enough damage solo before running out of time.
@@thiccolascage8180 Dalamadur is bigger overall actually, but somehow Zorah listed as the biggest
All-Mother Narwa was the biggest monster in Rise?
How big is Gaismagorm?
Did you just forget how big gaismagorm is compared to narwa? Yes he’s dlc but he is huge and in rise, and certainly bigger than narwa
I hope monster hunter wild bring some of these monster back and new ones specially after the rumors that i heard that wild might be a open world
I honestly thought the final boss of iceborne was gonna be a Dalamadur since they called what turned out to be Shara Ishvalda “The Old Everwyrm”
If we include frontier (I mean there's hypnoc, volganos, and now espinas in mainline) I couldn't see raviente returning anytime soon
I don't know or care how. I just want them to bring back Laviente from Frontiers (or just monsters and unique gameplay from Frontiers and Online in general because it would suck for them to have to die with those games after they shut down in 2019).
I'd love to see a game where they just keep adding older monsters to the list, and new variations, thats mainly what im hoping will happen with the 6th gen game. Mainly because my 1st experiance with a MH game wasnt till world, and I abosultly fell in love with the franchise, but knowing there are monsters I've never seen or got to take on, makes me wish they were in World or will come back in future installments.
If you have a Switch, a good way to experience a lit of the older monsters is to play GU. I started with World and went back to GU to face the older monsters. Once you get used to the older gameplay, it's pretty fun.
Sunbreak had a massive monster: Gaismagorm
Isn't monster hunter rise monster hunter 6?
So that would mean it'd be monster hunter 7
But I thought they were done with numbered titles
Rise/sunbreak would be the perfect game for Dalamadur, Yamatsukami and Shen Gaoren to return. I'll keep hoping until they stop doing title updates. Yamatsukami hasn't been in a mainline game since MHFU, 14 (!!!!!!!) YEARS AGO
I miss them. It's been so long!
The fact tht fatalis eats Lao shen, ...is funny to me xD
Now what I wanna know is, where deos Lao shen live, the land of giants
A under water revamped would be cool.
I would like to see a Monster hunter RPG open world with all the mechanic from all monter hunters game, like ff14 online.
Not sure if anyone has said it but the first game that comes to mind with me for underwater/above land combat is shadow of the colossus, old game but a phenomenal game
Da'rhen moran is more bigger than jhen moran, and i like the design more than jhen's one, it's better imo
Ceadus had the best music, And agnaktor had amazing armor set.
Isn't rise supposed to be MH6? I think capcom said that in an interview, anyways, so excited for the next-gen MH
Rise is kind of like MHP5 or portable 5, it’s in the same generation as mhw
But isn't gaismagorm bigger than narwa? Why is gaismagorm not mentioned?
The idea of not seeing Dalamadur or Dah'ren again makes me pretty sad. Hopefully Capcom will surprise us somewhere down the line. It would even be cool if we got remasters of these games.
Considering Dalamadur is one of the most popular monsters as well as being referenced in World.
maybe the gimic of the next game will be PVP, like people useing monsters to controll and conqor villiages and the new function is to tame some monsters as actual mounts (like Palamutes) but the combat mechanic is an engine like in JEDI Fallen Order with a block/parry with all types of weapons , making PVP possible. You know to save the monsters, what do you think, Team Darkside?
I need Dire Miralis and Gogmazios back so bad... 😫
They should focus more on MH6 and etc. More than the side ones. Rise is good but lack the MH feeling MHW gives. GL in rise thank you Capcom. I don't hate rise but is like a boss rush.
(And hope next gen only for better content too.)
Rise ain't a spin-off. It's a main series game just like World. Plus, they have two teams working on two entirely different games. The team who made MH1, Dos, 3U, 4U, and World. And the team that made Freedom Unite, P3rd, GU, and now Rise. One developing a game doesn't take away anything from the other. And honestly, it's neat seeing what each team does each generation
"MH feeling MHW gives"
made me chuckle
@@alderwield9636 You know what i mean you actually hunt and find the monster and the other shit not like in rise that just say where the monster is go kill and gone.
@@alderwield9636 The irony is, people at one point said World didn't feel like MonHun when it was the newest thing. And we'll continue going through this cycle as long as games get made. People bitched about 3U, then 4U, then GU, then World, and now Rise. And people will probably bitch about MH6
@@dakotasandifer3651 its a never ending cycle I know, but the community has grown so large that it almost impossible to stop it. Well scrap the 'almost'
never say never...
all the monsters can make a return even if the fight feels a bit different
while i do agree that underwater combat is a lost cause for all the reasons mentioned and then some
if they bring vehicle back in the game we can experience underwater combat in 1 of 2 ways:
- take a customizable submarine(primarily plays as gunning weapons do now but has some limited melee potential) and go kill a fully aquatic monster
- or make hunts in 2 stages for amphibious monsters where stage 1 is to chase the monstrous of the water with the vehicle and finish it on the ground
not to mention they can bring air balloons for monsters like yama tsukami or boats for fights like the mohrans
also while al talkall might not come with the same mecha as it used in XX it doesnt mean that it cant make a return with something more epic
im personally hoping for a story where some poachers are trying to recreate the dragon equal weapon they heard of in some folk legend but fail and due to the high concentration of monster parts they have collected for the duration of the entire game an al talkall shows up and highjack the dragon equal weapon corps and reanimates it as its new nest
and dalamadur has no real excuse of not making a return other then the devs preferring to make a new snake that feels more unique rather then recreating an outdated fight
Ever since sunbreak released I've been in the corner quietly chanting "dalamadur!, dalamadur!, dalamadur!" And still am. I just really want to climb it with wire bugs lol.
Miss laoshan lung
I've played all these old Monster Hunter games and defeated solo all of these monsters with a greatsword. It's a shame monster Hunter games have declined so much, I find MHRise really boring, boring enough to don't buy sunbreak
They got to bring Dalamadur back, hes the most popular giant elder by far, hes like the only giant elder fight people don't hate.
Tower of Fantasy CN version 2.4 giving under water battle
tho i might said it's not a decent one as there's not much changed between land and underwater battle and you literally had unlimited oxygen due to the lore giving you a tool for water breather
and the game suck on globul
I think Gogmazios would be such a cool final TU elder for the next game’s G expansion. I think they could give it the Iceborne Fatalis treatment and bring it back in a really big way. Otherwise I would also love to see Dalamadur or an updated Lao Shan Lung come back!
If underwater combat never returns...it will not be missed
Imagine of someday, even if its just a cutscene or background action in a set piece, we get to see a Zorah Magdaros and a Dalamadur enter a turf war
Imagine youre expecting something like a Brachydios or something but they just casually announce a gogmazios or a dalamadur