What changed in Persona 4 Ultimax 2.0
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- Опубликовано: 16 мар 2022
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Persona 4 Arena Ultimax 2.0 (what a mouthful) is upon us! A lot of you have asked what are the differences between the previous version (1.1) and the current one, so I put together a quick vid to fill you in.
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Individual changes from previous versions for each character would be something I’d be personally interested in watching
I agree. Playing Yukari is a cracked out version and I love it.
As a newcomer this guides are LIFELINES to learn online also does anybody having problems connecting in online matches
Online is garbage right now bro😩
Rollback isn't coming until summer 2022. So online is delay based trash until then.
I think the netcode is whack but I played it back in the day so I’m used to it
@@wave81210 yeah, yesterday i played 4 matches: 1st was kinda ok, 2-3 TRASH 10fps, and the last one same as 1st, we need that rollback netcode
@@DJDizzy8 well all that time to finish story mode, play every other mode, get every achievment...... Complete challenge mode and learn my main
looking forward to more guides on this game
1:04 you'll see that the comb I built 22 meter,
Sir no I can't
Also I feel like shadow frenzy is amazing now, it feels like your going crazy for real now
I can't wait to see more guides about this game from you
You might want to move your camera sometimes to show the meter that your camera is blocking. Sometimes I just can't see the meter that you're saying they're building/meter usage/special UI elements
I was really wondering about the shadows
Great stuff
These guides are great!
Would it be possible to move the camera placement so it doesn't hide P1 meter?
i never new they removed the mashing. that was the hardest part for me in this game ngl
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can you do a guide about the basics of this game? love your content!
thanks for making this video
Can you also do a video on the character specific changes? I am well aware of most of them, but I would love to see your reaction to Yukiko's flame dance spam 🤣
he did already
@@sillygoosechinachina a more in-depth one. The one he did was for new players
Never really played P4U but with the changes to Panic, wouldn't left right mixups just not work because you can block by holding either direction? Since I have never played the game idk how common left right mixups are.
Edit : At 7:55 you talked about pressing back and walking forward would make you get hit but would that mean if you were holding back to block in a blockstring and the opponent leaves a gap that you could move in you would get hit because of it?
Your inputs are straight up changed. Left is right etc
@@sorenduscai I understand that the inputs are reversed normally in panic but at 7:30 he shows that you can still block with downback and downfoward.
@@BearlyAKoala Since now you can hold downback to block while in panic, maybe they are more vulnerable now to overheads? people might just default to holding downback so they might easily get hit by highs
panic makes blocking stronger, but it's good for convincing the opponent to block in the first place.
I think the crossup demon type characters don't tend to be the ones who cause panic, since that wouldn't be great for their game plan
To be completely clear, yes, it means left right mixups won't work. You can't block the wrong way (horizontally) in panic anymore.
This game is REALLY complex and I don't get ANYTHING but I want to play it haha. Thanks for stuff like this to help, the tutorials aren't actually updated so it still tells you to go back and forth on freeze state.
Thank you, King. It really feels like shadows got even crazier with having burst and shadow frenzy at zero meter.
for the all-out-attack, do you still have to press both buttons in order to get max damage?
I needed this cause when I got on today, I forgot every damn thing lmao
Are you going to do beginner guides for this game? (Controls, mechanics, combos, etc)
You weren't kidding when you said shadow labrys was hard in your other video. I'm not quitting tho, her persona is calm.
one day LK will learn to move his damn camera
i'm not gonna hold my breath on it, but it'll happen.
maybe.
would this be a good game for me to return to fighting games?
my main problem with them is that I really need to make one game my "main game" and if for a day or week I decide to do something else, say play elden ring or team fortress, I instantly become 200% rusty and spaghettify all my inputs
Is there any mitsuru guides out there?
I can’t wait to play tonight when I get in ! Is it easier to play on pad?, I’m about to buy a new one also Do the characters feel the same as there blaz blue tag version ?
No, not really. The bbtag counterparts of the characters are basically super simplified versions of them, some characters being changed drastically like Mitsuru, who’s a charge character in p4au.
i just bought the game on ps4 on my ps5 ( it says version 1.00 ) what do you mean with version 2.0 ? because the game will be updated later this year ? sorry for the dumb question because this got me confused
This is a rerelease. It's the 2.0 version, it just says 1.0 because as far as playstation is concerned that's what it is.
Is It Me Or Is Doing Double QC Motions Either Not Work Or Unresponsive
How does being able to activate shadow frenzy early affect the way its used? I remember Shadow Naoto had a pretty specific setup for her IK with shadow frenzy that I don't think would work with less meter to play with. Are there other options you might go for depending on the situation or do you usually want to wait for 100 anyways?
its a burst, any combo done in shadow state is unburstable, anything that drains your meter done during a frenzy drains a % of your time remaining rather than a flat number, and probably a few other reasons I can't think of off the top of my head. There are almost certainly combos you'll still want the full duration for but just having the ability to make that extra decision at any time puts a lot of pressure on the person playing against the shadow player.
@@unskilledrandom Not long after posting that I managed to get the game to work with my stick and realized that I could confirm into Hamaon at a comically small amount of meter so that's cool
man it never clicked how close shadows are to 02UM max mode
What do you mean?
they literally are that honestly
@@aegisreflector1239 King of fighters 02 has a max mode, which much like shadows has slightly reduced attack in exchange for giving you more supers and cancels you couldn't normally do
@@KaitouKaiju Ah ok thank you 🙏
i loves this kusoge
@LordKnight your last video ↩ mentioned that characters can't airblock a few frames after their jump startup
i'm confused 😅--is that not new or not a big change?
woa 😳 did they make this a whole new game??
Oh I see shadow frenzy is similar to "overdrive" in BlazBlue in some ways. Oh wow.
Only in the fact that you can’t burst, really
I'd like to see more content for p4u
is there any reason to play base roster instead of just playing the shadow version?
Some characters dont benefit a whole lot from playing the shadow version, like akihiko who is my main. Ultimately its preference, but shadows generally seem to be stronger. Not enough that they can carry you though.
Who are the top tiers? Whos the easy top tier? Narukami?
Mitsuru, Chie and Aigis are top 3. Narukami is very strong but he's nerfed compared to Ultimax 1.1
SHADOWS
@order-sol's last brain cell japan exists
I cant even make my fightstick work...
are you gonna play jojo all star battle?
hoping they made chie more fire or the same!
So is it another game or just an update?
So what's the downside to using Shadow characters? They don't seem to have any.
No ik. No one more burst. No awakening (under 35% health you gain 50 meter and a 40% defense boost and an awakening super also no 150 meter cap) although shadows get awakening super from the start. 10% lower damage but shadow frenzy does crazy damage so it makes up for it. Theyr usually better than their regular counterpart but the regular ones are fine too
No burst is really important since it’s very hard to escape combos without burst
@@butterflydreamer9649 shadows have burst in 2.0. you do need to spend burst to get to shadow frenzy in 2.0 too tho
6:56 What do you mean by mash? This is so confusing 💀
You mash the attack buttons. You push them a lot.
@@hmad898 just all of em?
Shadow characters getting crazy buffed is kinda disheartening considering how good most of them already were. It also just kills the unique feel and pace they gave to a match by making their design more uniform. Oh well
Time will tell.
Just like in the japanese arcade version, there's no reason to pick the normal version of a character anymore. You're basically gimping yourself.
@@lFede64l except for the case of Yu. Normal Yu is still considered better than Shadow Yu.
Honestly I really wish your camera bubble wasn't right ontop of the meter. It's honestly pretty annoying, why not just not include camera footage at all?
I really hope they make a persona 5 arena game for ps5!
I'm still shocked that heccing SMASH got a P5 rep before Cross Tag or P4A.
Like don't get me wrong, Joker in smash is fun and I'm glad to have him, but I feel like he would have been a huge slam dunk in literally either of those games.
I'm hoping they're already working on it and using this game to Guage interested and fund the next one
Nah
@@KingK1421 nah? It would be awesome you’re tripping
@@webbowser8834 they're saving them for p5 arena
Im still waiting for the magic words: Rollback Netcode 😢
It was confirmed a while ago that it's coming in the summer
Why is there no shadow adachi?
because story wise, shadow adachi makes no reason
He'd also be the best character in the game with Magatsu Mandala available from the start.
@@KBeast618 that that would be so much fun.
@@ozzy2134 Neither does Shadow Yu, but he's there as well.
@@EeveeShadowBacon Shadow Yu is literally on the game's story
wait isn't the version we're getting 2.5, not 2.0?
As far as we can tell it's mechanically identical to the 2.0 version in arcades. 2.5 likely is just because it's technically got new features like a console training mode that weren't in the arcade version.
Is the pc ver good?
It's trash. Crashes constantly. I can't play any mode besides combo trials and training, anything else sends me to the desktop instantly. Also no lobbies on PC.
@@Space_Australian thank you for sharing this as i was gonna wait a week or 2 to see if any major problems come up and sorry you had to play a broken game and its got me scratching my head on how they fuck up a port but then again idk how to properly port older games to pc
@@darkmatter7713 Yeah it really bummed me out. I was super hyped for this game, and I literally can't even play online, game crashes just SEARCHING for players lmao. Idk how they fucked up this port so bad when P4G and P5S both run beautifully on pc.
@@Space_Australian i actually forgot about p4g on pc and it was a good port iirc. my only guess is they got lazy with the pc port since i have heard no major problems on ps4 or switch so far and it sucks because i do not have a ps4/ps5 and there is no way im gonna play on the switch with the terrible netcode lol guess we gotta wait and see if they plan to fix the pc port
@@darkmatter7713 Exact same situation on my end that's why I sprung for pc haha. But yeah just gotta wait and see, at least I can lab combos for now....
Or play elden ring
inputs so fked up man i need to mash in order to super come out its stressing, im on the verge of refunding smh
Inputs are gonna become like second nature the longer you play dont give up yet:). Also if your having trouble with the super input try weaving the stick forward then reverse the input and then do the forward input again. Do this semi fastish and its pretty reliable. A little hard to explain on a youtube comment
Help a brother out with sho combos :(
I think the most notable change they made in P4U 2.0 is that this one crashes every time I try to boot up the game
Nah
Try full window mode
I'm hoping I could start off with Naoto since she's waifu, but I've heard she's hard to play since she's a zoner? Thoughts anyone?
Hardest part is probably trap placements. Game isn’t tht hard to get into. Play who you want
She's not necessarily a zoner, but can be played as one. She's like a weird flexible character that can be played around neutral, rushing down, or zoning.
Start anyway, it’ll only get hard once you start learning her trap setups
I’m dealing with the same with Marie, by the time you get to the point where you’re learning setups/set play, you’ll already have mastered most of the fundamentals of the character, enough to get by
Ex Naoto main here. She is definitely one of the harder characters to play and, although she got some nice buffs in this version, I believe she is still probably like mid tier. She's quite fun to play though (also has really cool Japanese voice lines)
For reference (since this old video demands to be shared), this is what a Mid Tier in Persona 4 Arena Ultimax looks like (warning: 1.1 footage, the round start memes no longer apply in 2.0) ruclips.net/video/5Wg-T77Tjzw/видео.html
Seems like they overtuned the shadows.
Well before, pretty much the only Shadow characters you'd ever see were Chie, Mitsuru, Yu, and Naoto because the weaknesses of Shadow characters were too much for the rest of the cast.
@@The_Meev IIRC Shadow Labrys was a huge dark horse that got discovered in recent years.
@@The_Meev sadly that’s still all you see 😂
@@webbowser8834 shadow labrys is different from shadow type characters
@@webbowser8834 Which one are you talking about? "Shadow Labrys" or "Shadow" Labrys?
thank you christ they got rid of the AoA mashing, that alone is worth the price of admission
I’m not going to forgive what they did to Naoto’s theme :/
The goonery degenerate patch
First here
So shadow characters are now twice as broken? Looks like I’m not buying this shit...
Mashing AOA was LAME. Glad they got rid of it.
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