I’m interested in the wooden coaster list because some wooden coasters have changed WILDLY since then and people’s opinions of them are certainly not consistent
Yeah I was thinking about making a video about the '98 Wood list sometime in the future, so good to know that there's interest! You're very right, wood coaster opinions are highly variable from year to year which would make for an interesting video. Thanks for the comments :)
@@JNattyBoi yes please do this because I wanna know what coasters like Shivering Timbers, Boulder Dash, and Wildcat we’re ranked at. Also your videos are really well edited and have a great narrating voice. Good job!
As a Tampanian, I am ALWAYS so proud of my boys Kumba and Montu. Not only do they always show up in lists like this, they're almost always right next to each other too. Brothers. These videos are excellent, subbed! The idea of revisiting old Top 10 lists is really interesting and I'm surprised I don't see people do this more often.
Kumba has long been near the top of my bucket list of coasters. I am a huge fan of Arrow's 7 inversion "megaloopers" and Kumba looks to me like a more graceful, but equally intense version of that. Montu looks amazing as well, but I have been on MANY B&M inverts. I have never ridden a B&M sit-down coaster (I put the floorless models in their own category), so that is why I am more excited to get on Kumba.
For me…. 1. Magnum 2. Montu 3. Raptor 4. Kumba 5. Alpengeist 6. Steel Phantom 7. Mindbender 8. Batman clones 9 and 10 would be a pick 2 from Bat, FOF clones, Vortex and BBW. Haven’t ridden anything outside of the US or any of the Morgan hypers. Edit: I’d actually probably put Gemini at 9 and pick one of the 4 for 10. Gemini is underrated IMO especially for pre-99 coasters. Even with riding everything it would like still be top 15 for me.
"What would your top 10 look like if you took away everything post 1998?" A fascinating question, and a great thought experiment! Here's my list. Apart from Nemesis and Olympia, none of it would rank very high in today's top 10! A surprising amount of Vekoma on the list, but that comes with living in Europe. 1 Nemesis (Alton Towers) 2 Olympia Looping (Travelling) 3 Matterhorn Bobsleds (Disneyland) 4 Python (Efteling) 5 Psyké Underground (Walibi Belgium) 6 Colorado Adventure (Phantasialand) 7 Vogel Rok (Efteling) 8 Bobbahn (Heide-Park) 9 Alpina Bahn (Travelling) 10 Revolution (Bobbejaanland)
@@JNattyBoi I imagine things like Dragon Khan, Grand National and the Paris edition of Big Thunder Mountain might be on the list after I've gotten a chance to ride them. There is also the question of the SLC. Some pre-1998 SLCs, such as El Condor (the original headbanger!), have gotten new trains and ride a lot better as a result. El Condor would, in its current form, earn a place on the list. However, since it had the old terrible trains back then, does it count?
I think part of why certain stuff rank highly is what the most recent Coaster Con has been, hence why recently there was the Hersheypark rides that ranked highly and this can be seen in previous years
Watching this made me nostalgic. Kumba and Montu are the two I remember most fondly from childhood. The thrill of being tall enough to ride them, and always wanting the front row seat if I thought the side line was short enough. I got curious to see it, and while Busch Gardens Tampa has many new coasters, it seems those were top 2 even in the 2021 poll. And Montu was one of two pre-1998 coasters (Along with Nemesis which is one notch higher) to break the actual top 50. That's a high praise for a coaster like that.
Removing my post-98 steel credits, my ranking would be as follows: 1. Journey to Atlantis I'm not very well-travelled yet. Gotta get to Busch Gardens and Cedar Point. I find it interesting how different times can have different perceptions of the same ride. Nemesis, for example; I did not expect it to rank so highly in the other polls! I also lament the lack of overseas representation. I wish that people would include them in their lists, even if most of us can never make it there. I miss Big Bad Wolf, that's one I'm sad I missed. Another excellent video! Thank you! These insights into coaster fans are very interesting.
Great video! My top 10 based on today's rankings / my most recent ride: (I have pre-98 woodies like The Raven higher than Alpengeist, but...) 1. Alpengeist 2. Raptor 3. Montu 4. Batman: The Ride 5. Magnum XL-200 6. Kumba 7. Big Thunder Mountain Railroad 8. Space Mountain 9. Chang (Kentucky Kingdom prior to its move to another Six Flags park) 10. Big Bad Wolf Honorable Mentions: 11. Mantis (now Rougarou at Cedar Point) 12. Top Gun (now The Bat at King's Island) 13. Matterhorn Bobsleds
Vote Coasters is a great site, I love their spreadsheet. Wish the Golden Tickets would adopt the Hawker methods, but that probably won't happen. You're an inspiration, keep up the great content!
It's surprising just how much of my credits list disappears when you limit it to steel coasters from 1998 and before...I've got a pretty iconic list, still, though. This was fun to put together! 1.) Riddler's Revenge (Six Flags Magic Mountain) - Stand-ups are divisive, but I'm the perfect height and skinniness for them, so it's *exceptionally* forceful in just the right way. 2.) Magnum XL-200 (Cedar Point) - I accidentally caught a water bottle in my open hand on the b-hops. If that's not memorable, I don't know what is. Just an awesome ride from start to finish. 3.) Phantom's Revenge (Kennywood) - Does this count? The ride did not exist in its current form in 1998. Still good, whatever. 4.) Batman: The Ride (SFMM, SFGA) - Say what you will about cookie cutters but this ride is popular for a reason. 5.) Ninja (Six Flags Magic Mountain) - Best suspended coaster in the world? 6.) Vortex (Kings Island) - R.I.P. 7.) Viper (Six Flags Magic Mountain) - On a good day, I love it. On a bad day, it's a day-ender. 8.) Revolution (Six Flags Magic Mountain) - One of the first coasters I ever rode, and it still holds up, both in its own right and as a 'prepper' for the many other far more intense rides at the park. 9.) Montezooma's Revenge (Knott's Berry Farm) - Iconic flywheel shuttle, a rare and dwindling breed. Probably won't have its flywheel any more, though. 10.) Whizzer (Six Flags Great America) - I absolutely love this quirky toboggan-seated thing. Both times I've ridden it, it's been one of my favorites of the day, even alongside much more intense rides. It's just FUN! Oversaturated on the SFMM front, but it's my home park and is home to a whole bunch of steel coasters from the 90s, so can you blame me? :P
@@JNattyBoi You're welcome! :) Riddler is my favorite ride at SFMM even when taking into account the newer rides, actually. It'll be a sad day when stand-up coasters go extinct as they're quite fun to ride, with the right body type. maybe they'll see some sort of revival one day. I'm similarly envious of all those iconic coasters from the southeast quarter that I've never set foot in -- Florida and Virginia are high on my list of next states to visit, but I just got through with a journey all across PA recently (wonderful state, unbearable August weather, constant thunder closures + missed credits) so "coaster trip" funds are pretty much depleted. :P
@@JNattyBoi I think your channel will grow if you keep this up. Honestly, better than most of the theme park channels that have been doing it for years, and I think you have an edge that can cross into other RUclips genres outside the coaster-sphere
Love the Magnum praise! And I think those who find Magnum "janky" are younger coaster riders who grew up with incredibly smooth rides. One reason the Magnum is my favorite is its unique blend of being rough and smooth. And the air time is without compare.
Thanks for the sub! I’ve been working on the next coaster history episode for a few months now, hoping to get it out within the next couple of weeks or so. Appreciate your patience, it’s been a long time coming
I feel like nemesis scored so highly as coasterbot is a british channel with majority british viewers. Very few british enthusiasts i know have been abroad to many parks in other countries. Its a great coaster but nowhere near the best in the world. Id personally put it top 50 in the world.
That doesn't make too much sense to be honest. American English is still the same language as British English. So, unless you really detest accents, you should still be able to understand both.
Yeah it's tough to say for sure. I will say that CoasterBot's poll does an excellent job at eliminating continent/country bias, as it makes direct comparisons between individual roller coasters (meaning the poll isn't a popularity contest like Amusement Today's). I also removed coasters built after 1999 from the poll results seen in the video. As for the overall poll results, both Nemesis (46th) and Montu (47th) placed in the top 50. In the poll the year before, Montu placed one spot ahead of Nemesis. Basically, people seem to like these coasters equally and it's a bit of a toss up when it comes to ranking them against each other.
I’m interested in the wooden coaster list because some wooden coasters have changed WILDLY since then and people’s opinions of them are certainly not consistent
Yeah I was thinking about making a video about the '98 Wood list sometime in the future, so good to know that there's interest! You're very right, wood coaster opinions are highly variable from year to year which would make for an interesting video. Thanks for the comments :)
@@JNattyBoi yes please do this because I wanna know what coasters like Shivering Timbers, Boulder Dash, and Wildcat we’re ranked at. Also your videos are really well edited and have a great narrating voice. Good job!
@@JNattyBoi YES PLEASE!!!
Mainly because my Shivering Timbers would be talked about.
You might be the most underrated creator on this platform. Always a joy watching your videos and all of your work into research and editing!
Thanks so much!
@@JNattyBoi I completely agree, please make more videos, man.
As a Tampanian, I am ALWAYS so proud of my boys Kumba and Montu. Not only do they always show up in lists like this, they're almost always right next to each other too. Brothers. These videos are excellent, subbed! The idea of revisiting old Top 10 lists is really interesting and I'm surprised I don't see people do this more often.
Thanks so much! Those rides are legends, really hope I can get down to Tampa and ride them someday
they're still amazing even in 2023
I don’t see the hype with kumba it’s just a looper with cool colors and cool terrains
Kumba has long been near the top of my bucket list of coasters. I am a huge fan of Arrow's 7 inversion "megaloopers" and Kumba looks to me like a more graceful, but equally intense version of that. Montu looks amazing as well, but I have been on MANY B&M inverts. I have never ridden a B&M sit-down coaster (I put the floorless models in their own category), so that is why I am more excited to get on Kumba.
i love Montu and Kumba, they're so impressive especially for being relatively old
For me….
1. Magnum
2. Montu
3. Raptor
4. Kumba
5. Alpengeist
6. Steel Phantom
7. Mindbender
8. Batman clones
9 and 10 would be a pick 2 from Bat, FOF clones, Vortex and BBW.
Haven’t ridden anything outside of the US or any of the Morgan hypers.
Edit: I’d actually probably put Gemini at 9 and pick one of the 4 for 10. Gemini is underrated IMO especially for pre-99 coasters. Even with riding everything it would like still be top 15 for me.
I can’t argue with Nemmy being on there, it’s my favourite coaster (I’ve unfortunately not left the U.K. for my coastering. Yet.).
It looks amazing! Really hoping I can get over to the UK and give it a go one day
"What would your top 10 look like if you took away everything post 1998?" A fascinating question, and a great thought experiment! Here's my list. Apart from Nemesis and Olympia, none of it would rank very high in today's top 10! A surprising amount of Vekoma on the list, but that comes with living in Europe.
1 Nemesis (Alton Towers)
2 Olympia Looping (Travelling)
3 Matterhorn Bobsleds (Disneyland)
4 Python (Efteling)
5 Psyké Underground (Walibi Belgium)
6 Colorado Adventure (Phantasialand)
7 Vogel Rok (Efteling)
8 Bobbahn (Heide-Park)
9 Alpina Bahn (Travelling)
10 Revolution (Bobbejaanland)
Awesome to see a Europe-focused pre-'98 list, thanks for taking the time to put it together!
@@JNattyBoi I imagine things like Dragon Khan, Grand National and the Paris edition of Big Thunder Mountain might be on the list after I've gotten a chance to ride them.
There is also the question of the SLC. Some pre-1998 SLCs, such as El Condor (the original headbanger!), have gotten new trains and ride a lot better as a result. El Condor would, in its current form, earn a place on the list. However, since it had the old terrible trains back then, does it count?
Awesome video, you are fast becoming my favorite coaster related youtuber.
Hey thanks so much! Glad you liked the video
I think part of why certain stuff rank highly is what the most recent Coaster Con has been, hence why recently there was the Hersheypark rides that ranked highly and this can be seen in previous years
This feels like the type of video that deserves hundreds of thousands of views. Keep up the grind, this is great content.
Watching this made me nostalgic. Kumba and Montu are the two I remember most fondly from childhood. The thrill of being tall enough to ride them, and always wanting the front row seat if I thought the side line was short enough. I got curious to see it, and while Busch Gardens Tampa has many new coasters, it seems those were top 2 even in the 2021 poll. And Montu was one of two pre-1998 coasters (Along with Nemesis which is one notch higher) to break the actual top 50. That's a high praise for a coaster like that.
Removing my post-98 steel credits, my ranking would be as follows:
1. Journey to Atlantis
I'm not very well-travelled yet. Gotta get to Busch Gardens and Cedar Point.
I find it interesting how different times can have different perceptions of the same ride. Nemesis, for example; I did not expect it to rank so highly in the other polls!
I also lament the lack of overseas representation. I wish that people would include them in their lists, even if most of us can never make it there.
I miss Big Bad Wolf, that's one I'm sad I missed.
Another excellent video! Thank you! These insights into coaster fans are very interesting.
Steel Force is still legendary and sits next to grandma Thunderhawk people still get the lines confused.
Great video! My top 10 based on today's rankings / my most recent ride:
(I have pre-98 woodies like The Raven higher than Alpengeist, but...)
1. Alpengeist
2. Raptor
3. Montu
4. Batman: The Ride
5. Magnum XL-200
6. Kumba
7. Big Thunder Mountain Railroad
8. Space Mountain
9. Chang (Kentucky Kingdom prior to its move to another Six Flags park)
10. Big Bad Wolf
Honorable Mentions:
11. Mantis (now Rougarou at Cedar Point)
12. Top Gun (now The Bat at King's Island)
13. Matterhorn Bobsleds
Magnum is unironically my #1 overall. I really enjoy traditional out and back air time machines, and Magnum scratches that itch.
I probably appreciated the award show shade at the beginning of the video too much 😂. Really interesting looking at the three lists side by side!
Hahaha usually i dread writing intros for my videos but I had a lot of fun writing this one. Thanks for the comment!
Vote Coasters is a great site, I love their spreadsheet. Wish the Golden Tickets would adopt the Hawker methods, but that probably won't happen.
You're an inspiration, keep up the great content!
We can dream! Thanks for the comment :)
Mamba would be top tier if they made that list this past season. No trims equals gray out seeing stars air time
It's surprising just how much of my credits list disappears when you limit it to steel coasters from 1998 and before...I've got a pretty iconic list, still, though. This was fun to put together!
1.) Riddler's Revenge (Six Flags Magic Mountain) - Stand-ups are divisive, but I'm the perfect height and skinniness for them, so it's *exceptionally* forceful in just the right way.
2.) Magnum XL-200 (Cedar Point) - I accidentally caught a water bottle in my open hand on the b-hops. If that's not memorable, I don't know what is. Just an awesome ride from start to finish.
3.) Phantom's Revenge (Kennywood) - Does this count? The ride did not exist in its current form in 1998. Still good, whatever.
4.) Batman: The Ride (SFMM, SFGA) - Say what you will about cookie cutters but this ride is popular for a reason.
5.) Ninja (Six Flags Magic Mountain) - Best suspended coaster in the world?
6.) Vortex (Kings Island) - R.I.P.
7.) Viper (Six Flags Magic Mountain) - On a good day, I love it. On a bad day, it's a day-ender.
8.) Revolution (Six Flags Magic Mountain) - One of the first coasters I ever rode, and it still holds up, both in its own right and as a 'prepper' for the many other far more intense rides at the park.
9.) Montezooma's Revenge (Knott's Berry Farm) - Iconic flywheel shuttle, a rare and dwindling breed. Probably won't have its flywheel any more, though.
10.) Whizzer (Six Flags Great America) - I absolutely love this quirky toboggan-seated thing. Both times I've ridden it, it's been one of my favorites of the day, even alongside much more intense rides. It's just FUN!
Oversaturated on the SFMM front, but it's my home park and is home to a whole bunch of steel coasters from the 90s, so can you blame me? :P
Awesome list! Really enjoyed reading it - never been to any of the LA-area parks so my list looks really different. Thanks for the comment!
@@JNattyBoi You're welcome! :)
Riddler is my favorite ride at SFMM even when taking into account the newer rides, actually. It'll be a sad day when stand-up coasters go extinct as they're quite fun to ride, with the right body type. maybe they'll see some sort of revival one day.
I'm similarly envious of all those iconic coasters from the southeast quarter that I've never set foot in -- Florida and Virginia are high on my list of next states to visit, but I just got through with a journey all across PA recently (wonderful state, unbearable August weather, constant thunder closures + missed credits) so "coaster trip" funds are pretty much depleted. :P
Just watched all your videos can't wait for the next!
Great pick of music at the end of your video!!
Love your video's, good research, nice subjects and epic voice over! Just very well rounded!
Thank you! I've been focusing a lot on trying to improve my voiceover so I appreciate the feedback
We should treat this as the coaster draft
Great video with high production value
Thank you!
@@JNattyBoi I think your channel will grow if you keep this up. Honestly, better than most of the theme park channels that have been doing it for years, and I think you have an edge that can cross into other RUclips genres outside the coaster-sphere
Love the Magnum praise! And I think those who find Magnum "janky" are younger coaster riders who grew up with incredibly smooth rides. One reason the Magnum is my favorite is its unique blend of being rough and smooth. And the air time is without compare.
I LOVE your videos! This one was really fun.
Thank you! This one was a lot of fun to research/put together, so glad to hear that it was fun to watch too :)
Excellent video, love your content and the way you present it!
Hersheypark has Theaming that is Disney quality. They have chocolate money.
this video is so well done, love it!
Still waiting for an origin video on every non-coaster ride in the RCT series.
Stay tuned! Got a video coming soon
wake up babe the new jnattyboi vid is out!
Okay fine! You got my sub.
Im verry picky with subs but I love the stuff you do. I just wish you would finish the coaster history series.
Thanks for the sub! I’ve been working on the next coaster history episode for a few months now, hoping to get it out within the next couple of weeks or so. Appreciate your patience, it’s been a long time coming
The magic seat on Magnum is the second to back row, not the third row IMO.
Another great video!
Thanks Uncle Nate!
Surprised by the lack of the Big One
The first line 💀💀💀
I feel like nemesis scored so highly as coasterbot is a british channel with majority british viewers. Very few british enthusiasts i know have been abroad to many parks in other countries. Its a great coaster but nowhere near the best in the world. Id personally put it top 50 in the world.
he is only talking about pre 1999 coasters so thats where its first plenty of post 1999 coasters placed above nemesis
That doesn't make too much sense to be honest. American English is still the same language as British English. So, unless you really detest accents, you should still be able to understand both.
@@martijn9568 Yeah but i would take a stab and say the main demographic is british viewers. Thats just from experience i cant tell you why
@@thecoastergnome8603 Thats true, but i can guarantee if the pole was taken by mostly americans. Kumba and Montu would be ranked higher than nemesis.
Yeah it's tough to say for sure. I will say that CoasterBot's poll does an excellent job at eliminating continent/country bias, as it makes direct comparisons between individual roller coasters (meaning the poll isn't a popularity contest like Amusement Today's).
I also removed coasters built after 1999 from the poll results seen in the video. As for the overall poll results, both Nemesis (46th) and Montu (47th) placed in the top 50. In the poll the year before, Montu placed one spot ahead of Nemesis. Basically, people seem to like these coasters equally and it's a bit of a toss up when it comes to ranking them against each other.
Bro u r so underrated.
Idk why the hollow knight music being used is funny to me
Im surprised Magnum still ranked 6th in 2021 considering how much hate it gets from younger enthusiasts
There are rumors that mid course breaks on Mamba have been turned off….
Can anyone confirm this?
Ooo interesting, haven't stumbled across that rumor myself but i'll keep an eye and ear out. For Mamba's sake, I hope it's true
Okay I like Candy a lot and its my 2nd favorite B&m Hyper, but its not better than Maverick or even Leviathan.
The only bad ride here was desperado horrible ride
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