The Complete Inversion Timeline - A Chronological History of the Inversion

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  • Опубликовано: 11 фев 2022
  • Since the invention of the modern coaster in 1884, engineers have been fascinated by the idea of adding inversions to their thrill machines. In this video, we examine a complete inversion timeline, explore how the inversion has evolved, and determine which manufacturer is the inversion king.
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    Music in the video:
    Hopes and Dreams - Toby Fox
    First Suite in E flat - Gustav Holst: • Gustav Holst - First S...
    English Folk Song Suite - Ralph Vaughan Williams: • Ralph Vaughan Williams...
    Second Suite in F - Gustav Holst: • Gustav Holst - Second ...
    Armenian Dances - Alfred Reed: • Alfred Reed: Armenian ...
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  • @JNattyBoi
    @JNattyBoi  2 года назад +23

    Hey everyone! Thanks so much for all of your comments, it's been fun discussing the weird subtleties of modern inversions with you all. A few things I wanted to point out/note:
    1. The inversion I showed on Yukon Striker is not a Zero G Winder - the Zero G Winder happens much earlier in the rides layout, and starts with a half zero g roll into a diving half corkscrew (hence the name). The inversion I showed is technically considered an immelman even though the second half of the element does not go all the way to the ground - thanks to Jimi T. and Lolks for pointing this out. Here's a photo of the Zero G Winder, seen on the left: rcdb.com/16021.htm#p=103377
    2. I mainly used RCDB to keep track of/organize all of the inversions in the video, and while it is a fantastic resource, it's not perfect when it comes to inversion definitions, especially in the current world of wacky computer-designed elements. For example, most consider the final inversion on Ride to Happiness (located at Plopsaland De Panne) to be a Flying Snake Dive, as it looks nearly identical to the element on Storm Runner. However, RCDB lists this element as a Step Up Under Flip, so I accidentally failed to mention Ride to Happiness in the video. If there's enough interest, maybe I'll try making a "Weird Inversion Variations that Didn't Make it on to RCDB" video someday (think Death Roll, Mosasaurus Roll, Copperhead Strike's weird hangtime Cutback, etc).
    3. I decided to leave Fourth Dimension coasters off of this list for two reasons: I was more interested in looking at traditional track-based inversions, and I didn't want my computer to explode trying to render any more timeline effects. The fact that any stretch of track on a 4D coaster could contain an inversion is obviously very unique, and I do wish I at least mentioned them, as they play an interesting (if niche) role in inversion history.
    Thanks for taking the time to read all of this! Cheers

    • @kaydub0623
      @kaydub0623 2 года назад +2

      The weird inversion concept sounds like fun! There's defidently some other weird inversions out there that aren't different enough to really be considered new, one that comes to my mind instantly is the "Wonder Winder", which was found on a knockoff slc and basically is an immelmann with a sudden drop in the middle of the track. There's also some weird loops out there seen on rides like Olympia Looping or Tennessee Tornado.

    • @expensiveplates
      @expensiveplates Год назад +1

      You forgot the jojo roll found on Copper head strike and that one b&m at dornry park.

    • @SnowghostFilms
      @SnowghostFilms Год назад

      I’ve got the half-inversions covered in a separate comment.

    • @CoasterCrafter662
      @CoasterCrafter662 7 месяцев назад

      (I have a few remarks, but they don't alter the fact your video is REAAAALY good content)
      Actually, RTH's two last inversions are a Double inverting dive loop. It has a different shaping than a Flying Snake dive (which is basically half a camelback followed by an heartline roll and sort of a dive loop. The DIDL is just a dive loop that inverts twice : it doesn't have the half-camelback before inverting). The step-up under flip in RTH could be what RCDB is referencing as a ZGR (RTH's last inversion before the second launch)... I don't know how they got confused with that, since the step-up under flip isn't a double inversion.
      Additionnaly, the full name of Untamed's double inversion is "270° double inverting corner stall". I have heard the shorter (and more convenient) name "corner stall", but never "double inverting stall"…
      Also, while the difference between Togo’s dive loop and a reverse sidewinder is clear, the difference a B&M dive loop and a reverse sidewinder is a bit more tricky, especially considering the corkscrew is now a very versatile inversion (which can be oddly close to ZGR or heartline rolls) : Ispeed’s first inversion, maverick’s two inversions, Helix’s two first inversions and Toutatis last inversion are corkscrews even though they don’t look like an actual « corkscrew ».
      Of course, this also applies to the difference between Immelmann and Sidewinder.
      Likewise, the difference between Roll over and Sea serpent seems (IMO) irrelevant…
      I’m perplexed about the difference between norwegian loop and Preztel knot in rides like Helix or Banshee (the exit of Banshee’s pretzel thingy is closer to an immelmann than a sidewinder)
      Stormrunner’s cobra loop is also mystery to me. If a cobra roll is sort of a sidewinder and a reverse sidewinder back to back, why a semi-cobra roll shouldn’t be a simple sidewinder ?
      In the sport of inventing new names for already existing inversions, Intamin is the ultimate champion...
      As for the "ZGR (variant)", it’s actually rcdb’s terminology for all RMC’s inversion close enough to ZGR (Zadra’s 2 last inversions, for instance). It’s my opinion, but I think it’ll be easier to consider those as ZGR…
      Last but not least : what’s the difference between a wingover and a flat spin ? I find contradictory informations online.
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      Your (ambitious and precious) video is a good occasion to question coaster terminology, AND an information goldmine. Thank you very much for this research work !

  • @Ashes1032
    @Ashes1032 2 года назад +211

    You can almost pinpoint the year when Rollercoaster Tycoon became unable to imitate real-life inversions anymore.

    • @WasatchWind
      @WasatchWind 2 года назад +59

      I fear the day when Planet Coaster will be unable to.

    • @PremierSullivan
      @PremierSullivan 2 года назад +27

      It's almost exactly coincident with when RCT2 came out.

    • @HeelBJC
      @HeelBJC Год назад +31

      @@WasatchWind I mean Planet Coaster can't even imitate a normal roll without extreme jankiness lol.

    • @WasatchWind
      @WasatchWind Год назад +19

      @@HeelBJC Oh it can, you need to use the four meter method though.

    • @NathanHydra
      @NathanHydra Год назад +3

      @@WasatchWind auto-complete method supremacy

  • @UpstopThrills
    @UpstopThrills 2 года назад +80

    The Flip-Flap Railway also didn’t have up-stop wheels. They had to ensure the car was stuck to the track, leading to the insane g-forces

  • @coasterbot
    @coasterbot 2 года назад +72

    You've done the coaster community a big service by making this video - amazing stuff!

    • @JNattyBoi
      @JNattyBoi  2 года назад +8

      Thanks Coaster Bot! Appreciate the comment :)

  • @faselblaDer3te
    @faselblaDer3te 2 года назад +118

    Engineers 1846 - 1895: "There is a loop."
    Engineers ~1900 - 1974: "There is no loop."
    Engineers 1975 -1984 : "Corkscrews, loops, and fusions!"
    Engineers 1985 - 2003: "All of that, plus barrel rolls, and more variations. And repititions. And repititions."
    Engineers 2004 onward: "Arbitrary weird angles and unintuitive changes in direction of rotation LET'S GOOOO!"

  • @AdamSmith-gs2dv
    @AdamSmith-gs2dv 2 года назад +81

    Its crazy how computer designing revolutionized coaster elements, it seems like anything is possible now and I can't wait to see what designers have in store for the future

    • @skeven0
      @skeven0 2 года назад +6

      we can thank the NoLimit games/simulators, coaster companies used it to design/preview upcoming rides

    • @coastertv5200
      @coastertv5200 2 года назад +3

      The fact that Goudurix was the first computer designed coaster on earth, we definitely made improvements

    • @zuthalsoraniz6764
      @zuthalsoraniz6764 2 года назад +1

      I bet nowadays, you could just give a computer a desired speed/accelerations over time profile, leave it to crunch the numbers for a while, and come back to a workable coaster design.

  • @WoddCar
    @WoddCar 2 года назад +76

    It’s interesting to see the support structures of 1970s or 1980s loops compared to the loops of today. You can see how the understanding of the forces and the materials have improved to the point that that supports have gotten lots smaller

    • @martijn9568
      @martijn9568 2 года назад +7

      I suspect computer aided design has a lot to do with that one as well.

  • @VinceHere98
    @VinceHere98 2 года назад +48

    Can you maybe do a timeline on non-inverting coaster elements? That'd be great.

    • @JNattyBoi
      @JNattyBoi  2 года назад +17

      That’d be fun! Perhaps sometime in the future

  • @MinkyBoodle44
    @MinkyBoodle44 2 года назад +4

    I AM SO GLAD YOU PUT THE CHACONNE FROM HOLST’S MILITARY SUITE IN Eb IN THIS VIDEO THAT IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE PIECES OF MUSIC AHHHH

    • @MinkyBoodle44
      @MinkyBoodle44 2 года назад +1

      Oh, my gosh, you included the whole suite. You are a saint. Also, this video is superbly edited and researched! Love this video!

    • @JNattyBoi
      @JNattyBoi  2 года назад +2

      Haha thank you! I thought it fit well as a background track. Really appreciate the comment :)

    • @birdlad
      @birdlad 2 года назад +1

      Came here for this comment. It pleased my little band nerd heart to hear it, and it went surprisingly well with the content.

  • @Maya_Ruinz
    @Maya_Ruinz Год назад +6

    Great video! I feel like cobra roll and corkscrew seem to be on every inverted coaster these days. The pretzel loop, zero G stall and dive loop are easily the coolest elements that have made it on to modern coasters, the zero g stall on Velocicoaster at like 60ft in the air over the main walking path is just the engineer flexing their skill.

  • @Soggy__Milk
    @Soggy__Milk Месяц назад +2

    I've always found it really interesting that Arrow engineers designed the teardrop shaped vertical loop to mitigate forces as the train ascended the inversion, a necessary invention for rider comfort and safety at the time... only for Mack and other modern manufacturers to completely ditch that and go back to making circular loops again like on Copperhead Strike.

  • @mikewalker4950
    @mikewalker4950 2 года назад +15

    I would consider copperhead strike’s “cutback” after the second launch a new and unique inversion. It flattens and stalls at the top to give hangtime and is not the half corkscrew-half corkscrew shape of other cutbacks. Cool vid!

    • @JNattyBoi
      @JNattyBoi  2 года назад

      I definitely agree. I feel like if Carowinds gave it a unique name when marketing the ride, something like a "Cutback Stall," it may have been reflected as such on RCDB. Thanks for the comment!

    • @lacrls
      @lacrls 11 месяцев назад

      I agree, or you could call it an inside top hat stall, but cutback stall seems more appropriate

  • @coastersaga
    @coastersaga 2 года назад +8

    I want to design an inversion called a "hammerscrew." This is a sidewinder followed by a corkscrew, and is very Arrow Dynamics.

    • @dat1nvb
      @dat1nvb 9 месяцев назад

      W inversion

    • @lindseymccoy1633
      @lindseymccoy1633 8 месяцев назад

      i tried this and its weird on my one of my arrow coster in theme park tyoon 2

  • @7mtyler
    @7mtyler 2 года назад +1

    Excellent choice in classic wind band literature!

  • @cds1110
    @cds1110 11 месяцев назад +1

    A video idea you should create a tutorial not basically a tutorial but just showing how to build each inversion in Operct/rollercoaster tycoon 2 and what coaster type can be used to build it that would be amazing seeing a recreation. Also thanks to this my knowledge about inversion expands more. 👏👏👏

  • @williambrown8249
    @williambrown8249 2 года назад +18

    One could make a case that the 4-D coasters (e.g. X2) introduced a bunch of new inversions too

    • @JNattyBoi
      @JNattyBoi  2 года назад +8

      One certainly could. It’ll be interesting to see how RCDB decides to list the elements on the Axis coaster. I sense many more 1/2 inversions are on their way

    • @pwhnckexstflajizdryvombqug9042
      @pwhnckexstflajizdryvombqug9042 2 года назад +4

      It would require an accepted differentiation between track inversions and rider inversions, especially if the trains are free spinning. Inversions these days are so unique (and similar to other inversions) that calling them their own "inversions" is really starting to become worthless. If anything I would take the basic staples of inversions, and describe most new ones as just variations on the original. Corkscrews, Loops and Rolls make up just about everything that all inversions are. They are all just different combinations.

  • @SnowghostFilms
    @SnowghostFilms Год назад +2

    With a lot of people questioning about half inversions, here’s my history of them.
    2000: Fly to Lie and Lie to Fly. Essentially half inline twists that flip riders either from face down to face up or vice versa. This was first found on the Vekoma Flying Dutchman Stealth at Paramount’s Great America, now Nighthawk at Carowinds.
    2002: Upward Inside Raven turn and Downward Outside Raven Turn. X (now X2) at Six Flags Magic Mountain was the first ever 4D coaster, and the last by the legendary Arrow Dynamics. These are essentially half loops with drops instead of rolls on the ends. The first has trains on the inside of the loop and starting at the bottom, whilst the second has trains on the outside and starting the loop at the top.
    2007: Downward Inside Raven Turn (Stinger Curve). These are a new variation on the Raven turn. This actually first appeared on the Intamin Zacspin Kirnu back in 2007. The Vekoma built and now defunct Stinger in China had version of this element called a Stinger Curve. This one has the whole element braked to reenter the station, unlike the Zacspins and all of the later S&S 4D free-spins that also featured this element. So far, no roller coaster has an Upward Outside Raven Turn, with the exception of the lift hills for the Zacspins and Freespins. Other weird thing, the Zacspins and Frespins aren’t technically 4D coasters, as they only have a 2 Dimensional layout.
    2011: 540 Degree Roll. On RCDB, this is always listed as an Inline Twist and a Fly to Lie back to back on these B&M flying coasters. But this should count as it’s own inversion and a half. First seen on Starry Sky Ripper at Joyland and later seen on Flying Dinosaur at Universal Studios Japan, this is essentially a Zero G Roll that preforms an extra half flip on the way back down.

    • @JNattyBoi
      @JNattyBoi  Год назад +1

      Thanks for putting this together! Excellent synopsis of the half inversion family

  • @jessicaweirback9588
    @jessicaweirback9588 2 месяца назад

    Beautiful video. So well done. I love the examples. Excited for an update some day!

  • @jatmusic95
    @jatmusic95 Год назад +1

    Absolutely love the classic concert band rep from Holst, Vaughan Williams, and Reed. Exquisite taste haha

  • @katherineallen6108
    @katherineallen6108 2 года назад +1

    I went to Busch Gardens in Tampa when I visited the US in early 2001. This has been a nice trip down memory lane! Thank you!

  • @ejm_06__
    @ejm_06__ 2 года назад +3

    The Staffordshire knot found on the smiler is a combination of the batwing and cobra roll

  • @upstopwheel441
    @upstopwheel441 Год назад

    This is phenomenally done - well-researched, super interesting, and easy to follow (especially with the RCT examples intermixed). Awesome job!

  • @jleftjpl5511
    @jleftjpl5511 2 года назад +1

    love your channel. Binged all your videos this weekend. Keep up the highly interesting videos!

  • @tigovanrooij9926
    @tigovanrooij9926 2 года назад +2

    You missen the uphill barrel roll on Untamed at walibi. It is a barrelroll that travels slightly up so it gives you insane hang time

  • @267arm
    @267arm 2 года назад +2

    I came for the roller coasters, I stayed for the Concert Band Background music.

  • @Mariocoleguilla
    @Mariocoleguilla 2 года назад +1

    What a great video man!! congrats!!

  • @AmusementInsider
    @AmusementInsider 2 года назад

    Really love the quality of your videos! Super interesting from start to finish 🙏

  • @blank352
    @blank352 2 года назад +1

    Well done video! Very interesting and entertaining topic and I learned something new about coasters. Would love to see more niche coasters/parks video topics like this.

  • @TheHylianBatman
    @TheHylianBatman 2 года назад +13

    Another excellent video! I had no idea there were so many variations on one simple premise: going upside down.
    I can think of one that might be considered as missing: Dollywood's Tennessee Tornado has what's called there the Iron Butterfly: it's basically just two vertical loops into each other. Built by Arrow in 1999. I'm not sure that anybody else uses that terminology, though, so I can't speak as to whether it should be noted or not.
    I think that's the first time you've mentioned Gerstlauer!
    All these variations were a huge boon when I was working at a roller coaster: the kids would ask "Does it have a loop?" and I would say "No!" and they would get on the ride, satisfied.
    And I didn't lie to them, either. My ride didn't have a loop. It had a corkscrew into a half-loop.
    Does this mean that a top hat where you don't invert is an inverted/reversed top hat, since the top hat that inverts came first? Or am I just not clicking with it right?
    As usual, a fantastic job! And I got in on this one early; 23 views when I started it! Glad to be #24, I suppose.
    And hey! I don't remember seeing it, so congratulations on 2K subs! Like I always say, you deserve every single one!
    Thank you for the excellent video, and I can't wait to see which part of coaster history pops up next!

    • @JNattyBoi
      @JNattyBoi  2 года назад +3

      Hey man! I’ve never heard anyone refer to that as an Iron Butterfly before, although that is undeniably an awesome name for an element. I too am glad I finally had the chance to mention Gerstlauer, they were my one of my favorite manufacturers when I was younger - I thought EuroFighters were the coolest looking coasters I’d ever seen. Thanks for the comment as always, appreciate the kind words :)

    • @TheHylianBatman
      @TheHylianBatman 2 года назад +1

      @@JNattyBoi A Gerstlauer Euro-Fighter was my first upside-down coaster. I still love their track, their cars, everything. Especially the lifts!
      There's also the fact that Dollywood's whole logo and brand is a butterfly, so any time they can slap the name on something, I'm sure they do.
      I find it funny, honestly, that I enjoyed this video so much, considering that, generally, I don't like inversions.

    • @alaeriia01
      @alaeriia01 2 года назад

      Hold up, what coaster has a reverse sidewinder as its only inversion? There's the Wild Winds, but that's a half loop into a half corkscrew.
      The only other things I can think of would be Viper at Great Adventure, Mystery Mine, or the assorted El Loco clones, and all of them were fairly obviously inverting coasters.

    • @TheHylianBatman
      @TheHylianBatman 2 года назад +1

      @@alaeriia01 You named it, but I won't share which, as to avoid releasing personal info. I hope you understand.
      The thing about my ride was that the main path to the entrance did not pass the inversion, and so many people, getting on it, wouldn't see it.

    • @alaeriia01
      @alaeriia01 2 года назад

      @@TheHylianBatman Fair enough. I just like playing "guess the coaster".

  • @sillysailorartemis
    @sillysailorartemis 2 года назад +5

    Awesome work as usual! :D

  • @SANITIZEDINC
    @SANITIZEDINC 2 года назад +1

    This was great. Thanks for posting!

  • @CoasterDash
    @CoasterDash 2 года назад +2

    This was great! keep up the good work 🙏🏻

  • @iamzeiss9244
    @iamzeiss9244 2 года назад

    This is really fantastic content! I really hope you make more

  • @andykillsu
    @andykillsu 2 года назад +2

    Love the music choice for the video! I played a lot of the pieces myself! My favorite is First Suite in E flat.

  • @MickanMansRCTStation
    @MickanMansRCTStation 2 года назад +1

    Looks like an insane amount of research must have been put into this! Amazing work - I especially love the rolling timeline. You also did a great job at explaining all of them, especially those funky ones towards the end. Comparing them to previously introduced ones (and also using RCT to help describe some of them) was a great idea. Thanks for all the effort you put into this video!

    • @JNattyBoi
      @JNattyBoi  2 года назад +1

      Haha yeah putting all of this together was a journey. My computer could barely keep up with all the rolling timeline effects, but it pulled through in the end. Thanks for the comment and thanks again for the suggestion!

  • @zachi2fox246
    @zachi2fox246 Год назад +1

    i did enjoy a loop with an inversion at the top. That was a fun one. Though I want to go out to more coasters to experince more

  • @jimmymckenziemusic
    @jimmymckenziemusic Год назад +1

    I'm not saying more documentary-style videos need First Suite in Eb as background music, but more documentary-style videos definitely need First Suite in Eb as background music.

  • @NorthernRidesYaBoi
    @NorthernRidesYaBoi 2 года назад +1

    This was a super interesting video! I loved every second 😁 It's also fun to see just how creative inversions can get. It seems like it's impossible to make anymore new ones, but they just keep coming

    • @JNattyBoi
      @JNattyBoi  2 года назад +1

      Thanks so much! Glad to hear you enjoyed every second since I was pretty worried about the length haha

  • @TheMrDisneyboy
    @TheMrDisneyboy Год назад

    Fantastic video, I can’t imagine the work it must have taken to make this!

  • @SPRidley
    @SPRidley Год назад

    This video was increibly professional and well researched. Subscribed!

    • @JNattyBoi
      @JNattyBoi  Год назад

      Thanks so much! Appreciate the support :)

  • @candice1989fx
    @candice1989fx 2 года назад +1

    Thank you for arrange so huge amount of inversions. Quite a lot of work! I did a sheet before but never think of doing such a video!

    • @JNattyBoi
      @JNattyBoi  2 года назад

      Of course! Thank you so much for the comment :)

  • @coastercountdowns7736
    @coastercountdowns7736 2 года назад +1

    Love this video!

  • @Nismo-gy3wz
    @Nismo-gy3wz 2 года назад +1

    Thanks, great video!!

  • @CSXT17
    @CSXT17 2 года назад +2

    Best coaster RUclipsr, no cap. Keep up the good shit dude! Your videos keep getting better and better.

  • @YannisGoedermans
    @YannisGoedermans 2 года назад +3

    The tongue on Disneyland Paris Space Mountain is sometimes referred to as a horse-shoe. It also feels more like an overbank rather than an actual inversion.

  • @icyflame716
    @icyflame716 2 года назад +2

    My favorite has to be the 270 degree double inverting corner stall. I love untamed

  • @lightningbot85
    @lightningbot85 2 года назад +4

    Great mini documentary! Can’t wait to see what comes out in the next decade, RMC, Vekoma, S&S, and Intamin might double this list in new inversions and elements!

    • @planetcoasterboycj7274
      @planetcoasterboycj7274 Год назад

      It will be very interesting to see those 4 coaster companies duke it out for sure.

  • @davidlins5689
    @davidlins5689 2 года назад +5

    aaaaaaah i love this channel

    • @JNattyBoi
      @JNattyBoi  2 года назад +2

      Hey thanks so much!

  • @garyskippracing
    @garyskippracing 2 года назад +1

    Really enjoy your channel dude, keep it up

  • @ParkVisions
    @ParkVisions 2 года назад +2

    Love the video such a creative video

  • @nightmaregd7622
    @nightmaregd7622 2 года назад +1

    18:01 Aye, the song in the background is second suite for military band! I played this in band.

  • @ParkInsider
    @ParkInsider 2 года назад +1

    Fantastic video

  • @mickjansen5102
    @mickjansen5102 2 года назад

    Cool video!

  • @anton8019
    @anton8019 Год назад

    Very good choice of band classics in the background ;)

  • @HybridCoaster
    @HybridCoaster 2 года назад +3

    You forgot an inversion. Vekoma has also introduced the Stall Loop, found on Fønix in Denmark. It's only just doing it's first test runs just now, but it is a new inversion for 2022

    • @boltgaming248
      @boltgaming248 Год назад

      it looks more of a sidewinder than a loop
      because of the shaping

    • @HybridCoaster
      @HybridCoaster Год назад

      @@boltgaming248 well it's called a Stall Loop, I didn't invent this inversion, just accept the name of the inversion💀

    • @boltgaming248
      @boltgaming248 Год назад

      @@HybridCoaster ok
      but chris from airtime thrills called the sidewinder on hangtime after the dive "a negative g stall loop" despite it looking like a sidewinder and just calling it one element despite it being 2 elements in a row
      but the negative g stall loop is a dive into a sidewinder
      which is similar to the finnish loop but the sidewinder is replaced with a loop
      and it does not go into a banked upwards right turn into a dive it just goes up into the dive and into the loop

    • @HybridCoaster
      @HybridCoaster Год назад

      @@boltgaming248 that's not relevant, he did not create the inversion, and Vekoma invented this inversion, so just give up tbh

  • @Cr4z3d
    @Cr4z3d Год назад +1

    I'm surprised you didn't mention The Smiler, which is inversion hell lmao...still an excellent compilation.

  • @DylanPackard
    @DylanPackard 2 года назад +1

    I thought I heard holst, suite in F confirmed that haha! Excellent vid as always!

  • @AnotherSwissYoutubeUser
    @AnotherSwissYoutubeUser 2 года назад +1

    Amazing Video!

  • @coastertv5200
    @coastertv5200 2 года назад +3

    27:32 but what if some French dudes didn’t think about putting a loop down a ramp??! we wouldn’t be out here riding Zadra or Pantheon haha😂!

  • @OrigamiPhoenix
    @OrigamiPhoenix 2 года назад +2

    A cool little history
    Sometimes I wish it was mathematicians instead of marketers that got to determine what's considered a new inversion or not. What "feels" different isn't a sufficient metric because there's always going to be borderline cases like the aforementioned "tongue", and the "loose" loop as the final inversion on the Schwartzkopf Tsunami/Zonga. Then, a mathematician might argue there's only two inversion types: a twisting inversion, and a non-twisting one.

  • @Lucky_9705
    @Lucky_9705 2 года назад +1

    Drachen Fire also had the only Cobra Roll that Arrow Dynamics ever made

  • @skeven0
    @skeven0 2 года назад +3

    4:40 technicly the first one that opened was Boomerang at Bellewaerde in Belgium

  • @feesrmt
    @feesrmt 2 года назад +2

    i would love to see b&m or rnc attempt the flying snake dive

  • @coastersandbrews
    @coastersandbrews 2 года назад +1

    Awesome vide 💯💯

    • @JNattyBoi
      @JNattyBoi  2 года назад

      Ayyy thanks Coasters and Brews fam!

  • @aaronjcodona7835
    @aaronjcodona7835 Год назад

    my god this video was awesome

  • @AnotherSwissYoutubeUser
    @AnotherSwissYoutubeUser 2 года назад +1

    19:15 I rode this, The Hangtime on the Inverted sloped track piece is amazing.

  • @josiahsimmons9866
    @josiahsimmons9866 2 года назад +5

    I'd consider the stall on Steel Vengeance its own inversion... and the death roll on Iron Gwazi, while technically a barrel roll down drop, is also somewhat unique to its normal counterpart.

    • @JNattyBoi
      @JNattyBoi  2 года назад +5

      I agree, one could certainly make the case that these are both unique inversions. For the scope of this video, I decided to leave them off, but I'm thinking of making another video someday addressing these "unofficial" inversions. Thanks for the comment!

    • @boltgaming248
      @boltgaming248 Год назад

      the death roll is something a crocodile or an alligator would do
      idk they look the same to me

  • @ajc703
    @ajc703 9 месяцев назад

    Great video - the only one i think yoh missed was a Staffordshire knot found on the smiler at alton towers 👍

  • @hydrauliclaunch
    @hydrauliclaunch 2 года назад +1

    Did I just discover a fellow coaster enthusiast / wind band nerd?

  • @ieatatsonic
    @ieatatsonic 10 месяцев назад

    similarly to this, I'd love to see a video on the history of tracked water coaster-type rides - things that would be in the water section of RCT. Things like Log Flumes, Raft Rides/River Rapids, more typical water coasters, etc.

  • @thecoastergnome8603
    @thecoastergnome8603 2 года назад +2

    Very great video. I enjoyed it a lot! Minor correction, ride to happiness at Plosaland has a flying snake dive as well as storm runner.

    • @JNattyBoi
      @JNattyBoi  2 года назад +2

      Thank you! Yes, I should've mentioned that - RCDB lists the element as a "Step Up Under Flip" so I left it off, but I think most would agree that it's a flying snake dive

    • @thecoastergnome8603
      @thecoastergnome8603 2 года назад +1

      @@JNattyBoi got it that’s makes sense!

  • @Jalmaan
    @Jalmaan 2 года назад +1

    I do think it's important to mention X2 at six flags magic mountain. Even though the track doesn't invert, the cars do, which gives an incredibly odd and never before felt sensation.
    Another honourable mention would be the current record holder of most inversion, The Smiler at Alton Towers, not necessarily for inventing new inversion, but rather for fitting so many inversions in a compact layout.
    Lastly, even though they are 0 inversions, the non-inverting loops and similar elements are also worth mentioning.
    Anyhow I think it's really cool to see how many elements my home park is claiming, maybe not proud to have the first SLC, tho xD

  • @signofmars
    @signofmars 2 года назад +6

    Fantastic video! You're really killing it lately, feels like each video is stronger than the last.
    The only recent inversion off the top of my head that was missing from the list is whatever the first element on Taiga is called-but upon further investigation it's considered a zero-G winder alongside the Yukon Striker inversion and Pantheon's first element, which I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around.
    Hear me out: Taiga and Pantheon enter their elements with the zero-G-like component and then dive out of it with a corkscrew-adjacent twist, while Yukon Striker's is roughly the opposite: like a half loop into a zero-G roll... basically an immelmann that never comes back down to ground level? If we can give immelmanns (immelmenn????? pls advise) and dive loops different names based on the order of their maneuvers, or differentiate the narrow divide between a roll over and a sea serpent, SURELY these three elements deserve at least two separate terms to describe them??
    This will be my 2024 presidential campaign platform, thank you all for your time.

    • @JNattyBoi
      @JNattyBoi  2 года назад +2

      Thanks so much! Nice catch with Taiga. I used RCDB to keep track of/organize all of the inversions, but the site definitely can be wrong, and I think it is in this case. Taiga and Pantheon's inversions look more like Zero G Roll (Variants) or Step Up Under Flips than Zero G Winders - I wonder if they were mislabeled (especially since the reverse of a Zero G Winder - half twist into half loop - is a dive drop)? Or if there aren't actually any set definitions yet for these newer inversions, causing everyone to become confused lol
      Either way, thanks for the comment!

    • @jimit.4220
      @jimit.4220 2 года назад +2

      @@JNattyBoi I'm pretty sure the inversion on yukon striker you called a zero-g winder is literally just an immelman, the zero g roll after the immelman is the zero g winder. It starts as a zero g roll but finishes as a side winder. The elements on taiga and pantheon are the same.

    • @JNattyBoi
      @JNattyBoi  2 года назад +1

      @@jimit.4220 Ah, you’re right! Mystery solved. I’ll make a pinned comment noting my mistake, thanks for the comment

  • @groovynipple7092
    @groovynipple7092 Год назад +1

    Thought for sure Intamin would take the win! They be crazy! 😂

  • @Drkzy
    @Drkzy 2 года назад +1

    The non inverting loop sitting in a corner punching the air rn

  • @benscott6633
    @benscott6633 2 года назад +2

    I think the mosasaurus roll on velocicoaster might be considered it’s own thing too

    • @JNattyBoi
      @JNattyBoi  2 года назад +3

      Yeah that definitely falls into the “might” category (it’s pretty much just a high speed heartline roll, with perhaps a bit more lateral movement), along with some other inversions like Iron Gwazi’s death roll. One definitely could make an argument that many of these newer inversions that are just slight variations on more traditional inversions are unique enough to be considered brand new named inversions

  • @NaveyBlu
    @NaveyBlu 2 года назад +1

    I needed a video like this so bad. I can never remember all the element names

  • @ItzzzBeamo
    @ItzzzBeamo 5 месяцев назад

    The Heartline Coaster in RCT2 always felt like it was missing something, and now I know that something was a dive loop.

  • @HockeyGUY66871
    @HockeyGUY66871 2 года назад +1

    Also the inclined roll. Featured on Untamed. A heartline roll cutback combo,

    • @JNattyBoi
      @JNattyBoi  2 года назад

      Nice, thanks for pointing these out. I only focused on the "official" inversions listed on RCDB for this video (otherwise I may have never finished editing it lol), but I'm heavily considering making a video going over "unofficial" inversions like these so these mentions are really helpful

  • @LittlePotatoRoll
    @LittlePotatoRoll 2 года назад +1

    The inverting top hat is the most under rated & under used element on any coaster.

    • @boltgaming248
      @boltgaming248 Год назад

      that is why it's only featured on the mr freeze coasters and tmnt shellraiser

  • @Gelaviation
    @Gelaviation Год назад +1

    I don't know if this is just a standard one or an inversion of its own. The roll-over on Star Flyer at Star City, instead of going into a half-loop and into a twist and down to another half-loop, Star Flyer goes into a half-loop then into a twist, but that twist more that 360⁰ degrees making what looks like the turing drop from a Step-up underflip, but on a Inverted coaster.
    Again you can correct me if I'm wrong.

  • @fuzzyhobbit6548
    @fuzzyhobbit6548 7 месяцев назад

    I don't know if it counts but there is the Staffordshire Knot on The Smiler at Alton Towers UK.
    Interlocking cobra roll and batwing creating a knot appearance. When both trains leave the lift hill at the same time they fly past each other creating great near miss elements

  • @Bass_Goat53
    @Bass_Goat53 2 года назад +2

    There's two elements I think are missing from the list:
    Kickflip (2017) - Exclusive to the S&S launch coaster Galeforce. Acts as an Immelmann that throws riders into an outer banked airtime hill on the descent.
    Mosasaurus Roll (2021) - Exclusive to the Intamin Blitz VelociCoaster. Variant of the Heartline Roll that is not perfectly heartlined, causing sustained negative G-forces along the entire element.

    • @JNattyBoi
      @JNattyBoi  2 года назад

      I may be wrong, but doesn't the Kickflip not invert riders? Kind of acting like a non inverting loop on the ascent? As for the Mosasaurus Roll, I do agree that it could be considered a unique inversion. It was a bit out of the scope of this video, but I'm considering making another one someday focusing on "unofficial" inversions like the Mosasaurus Roll

    • @Bass_Goat53
      @Bass_Goat53 11 месяцев назад

      ​​@@JNattyBoiSorry for the late response, but I don't buy that Galeforce doesn't have any inversions. It's quite possibly my most ridden coaster ever and, both on and off the ride, I can find a few points (including the Kickflip) that appear to go beyond 135 degrees. Granted, I am a layperson and I'm not an engineer, but it certainly looks it.

  • @upsidedown_
    @upsidedown_ 2 года назад

    I love this vid🔥
    Hasn't fønix have the first stall loop

  • @jesh_
    @jesh_ Год назад

    One inversion you missed that may or may not count is the twisted ascent into a half-twist fly-to-lie descent that is immediately followed by the 2nd half of a pretzel loop on Flying Dinosaur at Universal Studios Japan.

  • @pollutingpenguin2146
    @pollutingpenguin2146 2 года назад +3

    Next - build a coaster with ALL coaster elements ever

  • @kymscates2892
    @kymscates2892 10 месяцев назад

    I’m surprised the smiler wasn’t mentioned with 14 inversions but great video!

  • @timk987
    @timk987 2 года назад +1

    Very well done, although i am a little surprised you didn't mention the fourth dimension flip. Which is an undetectable inversion upon inspection of the track, but happens when a fourth dimension coaster flips it riders. They come in controlled and uncontrolled variety with the controlled version occurring by the design of either the trains cars themselves or a secondary rail on the track.

    • @JNattyBoi
      @JNattyBoi  2 года назад

      Thank you! I was mostly interested in looking at traditional track-based inversions, but you're right, it was probably worth mentioning fourth dimension coasters

  • @rcengineer
    @rcengineer Год назад +1

    There's quite a few here that are certainly unique, but there's also quite a few (especially any that are just previously created inversions but repeated) that just seem like minor variations on previous inversions given a new name so that the park can claim they have the only one.

  • @hoosiercoasterfan2655
    @hoosiercoasterfan2655 Год назад

    I just rode my first SLC back in July, and the thing I found weird about the inline twists is that they don’t feel like inline twists. The way they are shaped makes them seem like the complete opposite of heartline rolls, almost like a double corkscrew that’s much tighter (and way rougher).

  • @brogaming7393
    @brogaming7393 2 года назад

    idk if you didnt add something to the list, but there is a inversion called "raven turn" on arrow 4d coasters and a small one found in x2

  • @azi_yt
    @azi_yt 2 года назад +1

    Imagine counting the top-gun stall as a unique inversion but not the Stafford Knot (Smiler, Alton Towers, 2013)

  • @martijn9568
    @martijn9568 2 года назад +5

    I guess you could consider any 4th dimension coaster an inversion by itself. One could consider them the Rollercoaster's equivalent of a Lomcovak from the airshow circuit.
    Speaking about airplanes. I don't think there's any set definition for what constitutes as an Immelmann (turn). I believe in aerial acrobatics (aerobatics) an Immelmann turn requires a circular half loop (Yes, high Gees at the bottom and few gees at the top), followed by a level aileron roll.
    Meanwhile the rollercoaster Immelmann turn is more reminiscent of a half Cuban Eight; Where the pilot flies 5/8ths of a full circular loop. Ending the loop facing down at a 45 degree angle. This then follows a half roll at the end.
    P.S. Theme parks, stop this madness and just build more 4th dimension coasters, or that Robo coaster from RCT3.

    • @JNattyBoi
      @JNattyBoi  2 года назад +1

      Very interesting. I know almost nothing about aerial acrobatics so this was a fun perspective to read. You’re definitely right about 4th dimension coasters: any stretch of track could potentially contain an inversion, how does one classify that?

    • @martijn9568
      @martijn9568 2 года назад

      @@JNattyBoi I guess you could just say that 4th dimension coasters have just one single giant inversion per block if you want to keep it simple.
      Of course if you wanted to make this list longer you could add individual inversions as well, since there are a limited amount of 4th dimension coasters and or a limited amount of not painful combinations of track inversions and rotations.

  • @curlesscoasters8279
    @curlesscoasters8279 2 года назад +2

    Ik this is a coaster related video but I just wanted to say the band kid in me loves the music choices for the video

    • @JNattyBoi
      @JNattyBoi  2 года назад +2

      Haha thanks so much! I listen to these all the time so it was inevitable they’d end up in a video one day :)

    • @curlesscoasters8279
      @curlesscoasters8279 2 года назад +1

      @@JNattyBoi they’re all incredible pieces. My band is actually playing second suite in F right now

  • @tbkarate7175
    @tbkarate7175 2 года назад +1

    You should do this but with airtime elements

  • @AnotherSwissYoutubeUser
    @AnotherSwissYoutubeUser 2 года назад +1

    24:18 It's called a "Corked Roll" according to the announcement video.

  • @HockeyGUY66871
    @HockeyGUY66871 2 года назад +1

    Missed the dive stall on Pantheon. Basically a very long stall

  • @aaronschatzman6645
    @aaronschatzman6645 5 месяцев назад

    hey just saw this video for the first time, and I love the work you put into making this!
    I read your pinned comment about the 4D's and thank you for saying that, but I feel like that only applies to models like the Zacspins, Free-Fly's, Axis and such free-wheeling models. For the fix track 4d's like X, Dinoconda and the E one I can't spell would you consider that those welded 4th rail dependent inversions are as fixed as other static trained models?
    The other situation is where I see RCCA listed for having the first modern wooden loop. I feel their (appropriate) credit in the ranking breakdown as the design very clearly brought its own challenges which lead to its demise, sets a precedence where I think B&M, Intamin, RMC, Togo, Vekoma, Mack and several others would have a much higher count if they too were given credit for overcoming the first inversions of individual designs... I feel having the first vertical loop on a modern wooden coaster surely could compare to Togo first vertically inverting riders (almost) safely, or BM solving Arrow's dilemma of inverting riders suspended and I'd like to see how the rankings could change with those considerations

  • @alexgeorge501
    @alexgeorge501 2 года назад +1

    i'll take the classics from Arrow and B&M any day at the park, cya in the next video!

  • @theobrigham
    @theobrigham 2 года назад

    If the Twisted Colossus one was included, probably could include the Staffordshire Knot on the Smiler :)