Yes, so well said. Stop removing areas and attractions, a loss is a loss even if you replace something where an older attraction once was. They have been doing this for years and years now. They need to replace their way of thinking before they lose more of us Guests who are sick of losing the things we loved most about Walt Disney World.
What a dumb answer. A lot of attractions become outdated and need to be replaced. A 3D movie is a no go in a theme park in 2024. The movie Muppet vision 3D is outdated. It shows. Now a lot of fans cry because it was Jim Hensons last work. Jim Henson died in 1990. 34 years ago... Disneyworld is not a museum and needs to get allong with its time. Monsters Inc dates from 2001 and now we finally we get the attraction we all have been begging for !
I remember Walt saying, “Here in Florida we have the blessing of size. Meaning instead of maintaining and expanding the parks, we’ll sell the land for a quick buck and implode our unique, timeless attractions when we face competition. If we can dream it, we can doze it.”
“I love the nostalgic myself. I hope we never lose some of the things of the past…unless it interferes with more IP rides and gift shops in the parks.”
@@CarolCityCane305 I’m being a little facetious. Not everything they’ve done has been a disaster (though I personally don’t like Runaway Railway much), but in general they are overdoing it with IPs these days. No more original attractions and a willingness to destroy beautiful landscapes regardless of historical context and theming is a path to making WDW less appealing overall.
Hollywood Studios needs capacity. The Animation Courtyard & Star Wars Launch Bay provide very little, so that is the perfect spot for Monsters Inc. Plus, Toy Story Land is right nearby so you can make that a Pixar area.
I agree, however, I think instead of knocking down corporate offices, they'll probably expand into the parking lot behind Launch Bay which would also allow for a second entrance via Sunset Blvd!
I don’t want to lose Muppetvision 3D or Star Tours. I hope your analysis is spot-on, as usual, and those are safe. Animation Courtyard makes the most sense for this attraction.
I really hope that if Muppetvision 3D going, they move it somewhere else. I remember when Disney re-themed Muppet Courtyard in 2017 to Grand Avanue, people were furious. Disney knows this is a popular ride (they look at attendance data), if it won't work there they WILL move it elsewhere in the park
Muppets is not gonna go anywhere, they just refurbished it with brand new seating and they made the film digital and it’s the last project that Jim Henson worked on and as for Star tours They added new locations and new characters plus is a smaller area so hands-down it’s going to go in animation courtyard.
Apparently someone on Twitter said their office in HS is being relocated (if you don’t know, Animation Courtyard has a lot of backstage offices) so I think Muppet Vision is saved
13:39 Muppet Vision 3-D was the LAST thing that Jim Henson EVER worked on. If Disney doesn't think that makes it worth keeping, then CLEARLY they don't deserve to own the Muppets anymore because that's just disrespectful.
3-D theater attractions are not appealing to general consumers anymore like they were years ago. It doesn’t matter if it was Walt’s last project he worked on, any 3-D theater attraction has an expiration date & it’s sooner rather than later.
I like Jim Shull's speculation of claiming a portion of the parking lot. He said there's other advantages like opening it up for future expansion not just Monsters inc. He said there could be a pathway through Muppets leading into Monsters.
I dont understand disneys obsession with removing attractions to make new attractions… the whole issue with HS is that there is not enough to do!! Keep muppets and use animation courtyard space instead.
The fact that Disney hasn’t addressed this yet I feel means one of 2 things. 1 - They genuinely haven’t decided where it’s going yet, which seems odd for a project that is supposed to break ground next year Or 2 - It’s replacing Muppets and they’re too afraid to tell us. If it was replacing Animation Courtyard or some other area, I think they would have told us by now.
Continuing with Options #2-Disney maybe gauged the reaction to "Hey new Cars land in the Magic Kingdom! We are placing it where the Rivers of America and Tom Sawyer Island are." That might have an impact on the Monsters location.
It could also mean 3rd or 5th etc... but all of it boils down to "COST" they are so cheao they refuse to address things like raw sewage seeping out in the open air i magic kingdom. Rats Roaches Snakes in the Carousel of progress a ride that is technically 60 yrs old built fir the 1964 worlds fair barely doing anything for jungle cruise itself an outdated ride they couldn't complete correctly when it was build 50+ years ago These parks are what keep thr company a float yet they refuse to update or properly maintain Things liken Monorail system or animal kingdom
Agreed, Disney isn’t expanding anything. They are just replacing beloved attractions that they have let go into disrepair and puking up IP wherever they can. So sad.
@@victorfontaine000 I don't think half the stuff they announced gets built. Disney is notorious for over promising and under delivering. I have zero faith in this company.
Awesome point with the Rivers Of America at Disneyland. They took a very slim part of it away, but then made it even better and then put a whole star wars land behind it. If they can do that, why can’t we keep our rivers of America, at least the front portion that’s closest to liberty square. Tons of space behind Big Thunder Mountain that they are not utilizing.
Couldn't agree more. I love the Monsters Inc idea, but my girlfriend, upon first visiting DHS, said Muppets was her favorite attraction. Animation area needs help.
I saw a meme the other day that essentially said these announcements were telling Universal to “hold my beer”. I cannot imagine anything future from the truth. You nailed it on the head here with your “no expansions, just replacements”. I’m not sure at what point Disney will wake up and realize what they’ve done, but I fear it will be far too late.
I do hope they wake up and realize what they have done too. But they probably won’t until the stock drops to an alarming level, the theme park attendance drops even more then it already has, and Disney+ doesn’t start making money.
@@Gary-z5ysorry to break it to you but this company as currently constructed is INCAPABLE of delivering anything worthwhile. They lack the creativity and foresight. The entire leadership is nothing but a bunch of number crunchers and woke liberal whack jobs!!
I think one of the biggest things to take away from D23 was that Disney were cowards and waited until after the event to say where some of this new stuff would be going. They know that they would have gotten boo'd off stage had they announced that Cars stuff would replace rivers of america instead of going behind big thunder.
Personally it would make more sense to build the monsters inc land on the parking lot and actually expand the park. I believe those are mostly cast parking so Disney can make a parking structure. The flow through muppets to Monsters would mean those empty shops and dinning locations can be filled.
Except it wouldn't. One of the reason that they can't do a 5th park is because they can't maintain their current 4 parks. In that sense putting in animation courtyard, a dead area, make the most sense. As for star tour it's very small are you easily be an extension to bottom if they move them.
they are expanding into A parking lot but not that one. The parking lot behind Launch Bay will be incorporated and provide a second entrance to Monsters Inc. Land
Its so frustrating seeing what disney is doing to the parks especially when you see how much unused land disney has. I can think of 2 things they can do like make parking multi layered like a parking garage or of they dont want to do that they can move the parking back and add some trams or even expand the monorail. It feels like they refuse to actually expand any of their parks even though it clearly looks like they have the room to expand.
Hoping that with how many park logistics issues Hollywood Studios has as it is, they recognize that it makes a lot more sense to expand their attractions with the space that's not being used rather than replace two attractions that are pretty good with capacity (and also reliable unlike some attractions...)
I still can’t believe they want to take out Rivers of America. Such a bad idea. Hope the Muppets stay where they are. It’s not looking good for Walt Disney World’s future in my opinion. So sad to hear about all of these removals.
Think of how many guests Cars land can absorb rather than Rivers of America. I was at Tom Sawyer Island last year and it was completely dead. A lot of people don't want to wait for the raft to be taken to a place you walk around. Will I miss it? Absolutely, but I'm more excited about a big e-ticket ride that soaks up guests like a sponge. Plus, Disney has to do something big to combat Epic Universe.
I, too, hope they choose Animation Courtyard. It doesn’t make sense for Disney to get rid of a high capacity show like the Muppets in a park that already has capacity problems. Animation Courtyard is a Ghost Town now. Disney Junior can be moved to the old “Who Wants to be a Millionaire” show building and a Harryhausens Restaurant can go there. The Little Mermaid show can stay open during construction, then when the main construction is over, it can be rethemed to a Monsters Inc. show. By the way everyone complaining about the Rivers of America being filled in should watch Chris with a K’s video about how if you want a Beyond Big Thunder area, you have to remove the Rivers of America to allow access. It’s very interesting.
I really wish Disney would make rock ‘n’ roll roller coaster themed to Dr. Teeth and the Electric Mayhem! Seems like a no-brainer to me! After watching this video they should move muppets 3d to make room for the laugh floor and put muppets 3d to the lighting McQueen attraction (now that cars are coming to MK! Then BOOM! Now you have a new muppets area with 2 awesome reasons to visit the land. As for animation, Courtyard Zootopia maybe??
Such an interesting analysis. Unlike the rivers of America which really appear to be done for do you think the fan community still has time to possibly influence the decision of animation courtyard versus muppet area? It seems so very clear that Disney has made the decision to concede the late 20’s to epic universe and is positioning for a comeback in the 30’s. At 76 I have to accept that I might never go back to magic kingdom once they commence the visual blight of destroying the rivers of America. With construction at the animation courtyard there might be a chance for me to have a few more Hollywood studios visits but with the destruction of the muppets attraction I just feel my disneyworld days may be truly over. Thanks for your empassioned coverage. It is appreciated!
I’ve been predicting Animation Courtyard and feel like it’s the most fitting spot. Hard to say at the end of the day. Hope they announce the location in the next month or two
Jim Shull did a great video on this and one of his ideas was that it would push through the Muppet's Courtyard and into the parking lot. Dividing that lot into 2 expansion pads.
You’re good, Brayden, and your analysis pulls in all the threads. Disney executives say there are no sacred cows. The Muppets in their theatre are sacred cows to me. The Rivers of America, TSI, and the riverboat are sacred cows to me. I do like Monsters Inc. and would like to see them in the Animation Courtyard/Star Wars Bay, where they don’t even have real photographers to take your photo with Chewbacca, Darth Vader, etc.
Animation Courtyard can have Laugh Floor inside the little mermaid or Disney Junior buildings easily. Also, you can have that area link Toy Story land & Sunset Blvd with extended walkways. It would open the park up significantly.
Muppet Vision and Star Tours are my favorite things at DHS. Muppet Vision is the best 4d movie at WDW and Star Tours is better than the Galaxy's Edge rides.
The amount of change Hollywood Studios has gone through is crazy. The Animation Courtyard used to be where you entered the 'studio' and was the original entrance from the tram tour. The tram tour was moved and then it became the Magic of Disney Animation tour entrance, and then becoming Launch Bay, which was really just to hype up/ hold people over for Galaxies Edge. Launch Bay doesn't really have a purpose anymore so I can see it going. It's just crazy that what was the entrance for the main experience of the park on opening day is likely going to be demolished.
I think they should retire Aerosmith and make it Dr. Teeth and the Electric Mayhem. They could use the Launch Bay area for Monsters Inc and move all the office to the Star Wars hotel, which could easily accommodate the office space in the hotel rooms. They have open air meeting rooms and a restaurant. 5:36
Steven Tyler is such a sick creepy twisted disgusting p-word i can't even go into the park until they do this (or get rid of him somehow, please, dear gods) so YAS! Love Dr T and EM! Haha! The execs should be "forced" to move their offices into ALL their failed projects
Bulldoze Launch Bay that no one uses and build it there. Or build out into the parking lot, and build another parking lot somewhere else. They have like 40 square miles of space there. Or they could have left the parks alone, and used all the stuff from D23 to just build a 5th park, so they don't have to close anything.
I think your theory is definitely on point! I’ve heard some people say ‘Well they’re not going to replace Muppets. They just redid the seats.’ But if they just replace muppets instead of tearing it down that argument falls apart.
Brayden - this makes me SO nervous for Muppets!! With MuppetVision closed at DL, and the pending sale of the Henson Studios property … feels like endangered/extinction level for our beloved Muppets. I hope it’s the former Animation Building/Launch Bay that gets revitalized … and not the erasure of The Muppets.
WAIT Launch Bay will probably be the entrance to Monsters Inc. Land. BUT with both the ToyStory and StarWars expansions we got two entrances to both lands. Therefore, the land will more than likely expand (not into their beloved Animations build but instead) into the parking lot behind Launch Bay which would allow a second entrance to the land via Sunset Blvd. @MickeyViews
They still got You in Disney California Adventure! So much fun that i can't believe i only recently started doing it. Animation Academy (and Muppets) forever!
Keep the Muppets! Tell Disney please. Open the Muppet store. Bring back muppet Merch! And also give pizza rizzo some better pizza. Can we get some delicious pizza over there!
What about (as I saw somewhere) they built it in the parking lot behind Star Tours? This would actually add space and capacity, plus allow for future expansion. They can also build this with no interrupt to the rest of the park. Star Tours could be re-themed to a Monsters ride.
Yes the Muppets should stay, the launch bay is basically a ghost town so in my opinion the monsters Inc. land and coaster should go in the old animation courtyard. Please Disney!
You absolutely destroyed it!! I've been waiting for this video since you did the pre-prediction for D23 (2024) (Awesome by the way), your breakdown of the old Disney propaganda photo and date, your insight and sources on new stuff on its way, your attention to detail, and your knowledge of Disney, the de-theming of hotel rants, the calling out of CEO's, VP's, Presidents of opts. It's nice to see someone who isn't just sticking up for Disney all the time, your understanding of business in general is great. This all is why you're best in the business!! I'm super stoked you are doing more Mickey Views videos again getting 100k plus views unreal! If it did go between Muppets and Star Tours at least they maybe could do something else in the animation courtyard or bring it back! I think with the Star Wars land in place, there is no need for the launch bay though, so probably end up landing there because they were just throwing Star Wars wherever they could after the investment years ago.
When it comes to expansion versus replacement, I think one of the reasons they prefer to replace over expand is that expansions require them to add a lot of staff, which cuts into profit. Sure, an expanded land, in particular, can increase revenue from new shops and restaurants, but that only works if attendance increases in the park overall. I think they will only expand if they are confident the park will experience higher attendance. Both AK and DHS attendance is down, so maybe that provides optimism that new lands in those parks will boost attendance.
Braden, it’s actually going behind the Sunset Ranch Market in the empty parking lot adjacent to Rockin Roller Coaster. You will enter Monstroplolis off Sunset Blvd.
It was Jim Henson's last Muppet project before passing away; the last time he voiced them, too. Entertainment is a chore to Bob Iger; putting in minimal effort so he can get back to more DEI.
It would make so much sense to put Monsters in the Animation Courtyard because it's next to Toy Story, and that would create a nice Pixar land area. When the Rockin' Roller Coaster is eventually rethemed, maybe that could be an attraction from another Pixar movie like The Incredibles.
When I see the monstropolis street images and video clips, I see the opportunity for something like the Osborne lights being used during the Christmas holiday season!
Brayden your video updates are pure magic ! Thank you fir your incredibly upbeat attitude and factual presentations! Absolutely love watching you and learning more about disney that I'd never know otherwise! A+
I think it makes sense that it goes by Animation Courtyard because it’s proximity to Toy Story land and you can create some Pixar bridging between both areas
THIS. This is what I’ve been dissecting in my head since it was announced. I can hear and feel the passion in your voice Brayden. Phenomenal work and breakdown yet again. My theory was to use AoA but extend it down to RnR and make that the entire MI land, but after watching this I clearly see your point of not wasting RNR and simply retheming it. As always keep up the great work.
Not to mention Hollywood studios already has god awful capacity issues. If you close muppets land for a while to transform it that takes away a people eater. It may not be much but its still something to do. Disney needs as much of that as possible. Also didnt they just update this area?
Brayden, You are spot on with the things you are saying, you may not be exact, but your thought processes are most likely true because these guys have already demonstrated doing things like this. There seems to be a total disregard to the past, everything that got them to where they are today “demolish it,” they need to retain some of these attractions, for the history, for the memories they have made; refurbish and expand the parks, some of us enjoy the nostalgia.
If they kill both Star Tours and Muppets they are officially insane. When we say we wan't new stuff, we don't mean "we wan't new stuff to replace the old stuff" lol
I really hope it goes in the old Animation area. Tired of them just replacing attractions. New should mean new, as in additional. They can’t increase capacity doing this swap stuff.
@@vphil09 the ip is irrelevant at this point they are soo ip heavy but incorporating thing that are 20 years old same thing with Tiana that 2009 that’s a long time ago to be building a brand new attraction now themed to that … the timing is all off
so we're only supposed to sink millions into movies that just came out whether or not they're any good? it'll be 25 years old, but a classic. no one want to lose Muppets, which is even older, but pisses and moans about Monsters Inc being too old...the internet is dumb.
@@PattiiMayonnaise I would love to be fans of both! WDW was my happy place from 2005-the pandemic. I had many family trips, was a cast member, had my honeymoon at Disney, and when we moved back to Florida was a pass holder for 7 years. I didn’t become a universal fan until I saw how great they have become in the last 5 years. Every time I visited Disney lately I left feeling bummed with their choices and operations. So I’m breaking up with Disney for the foreseeable future which is sad to me, and we will be spending our time and money at universal. I don’t want my good memories of Disney tainted by the current state of the parks.
That piece is four years old. But the other is not. Which can help us hope it is going to the animation courtyard, since it's likely newer concept art.
Brayden I think your analysis of Monstropolis replacing the Muppet’s area is spot on. All you have to do is line up the water tower barrel on top of the current bathrooms to see the area depicted will replace Pizza Rizzo, the gift shop, and momma Melrose to extend out into the parking lot. Why is it so difficult for WDW to EXPAND and build new attractions on ANY of the existing parking lots while simultaneously expanding the parking lot footprint to offset the park attraction expansion? Why do they always want to rip out existing and replace existing attractions???!!! They have all this unused real estate, why don’t they use it to EXPAND the WDW parks???!!! 🙄😜
Animation Courtyard makes more sense, you really don't have anything going on there except the Little Mermaid on the corner. So everything can got behind that. the Muppet vision area would create a wash for opening more area for headcount. Muppets continues to draw and have a relatively full theater
Disney know Muppet Vision is a beloved attraction. So I would say demolish Pizza Russo, Put it in the Mupet Area. But, Laugh Flour goes into the old Gift Shop, and Muppet Vision 3d get a re-directed entrance. Keeping an great attraction and adding more
One person on Twitter claimed they were told to vacate an office, deleted the tweet, and then sites ran with it. I know why those employees are being moved. It is not for office demolition I promise you.
Brayden, you are absolutely amazing at tour craft. With WDWNT being sold out to corporate, you're the last one standing on giving the real news about something so many people care about. Keep up the amazing work.
Disney needs to start ADDING attractions and stop REPLACING attractions!
Yes, so well said. Stop removing areas and attractions, a loss is a loss even if you replace something where an older attraction once was. They have been doing this for years and years now. They need to replace their way of thinking before they lose more of us Guests who are sick of losing the things we loved most about Walt Disney World.
@@Gary-z5ythey have already lost many of us.
Exactly!
What a dumb answer.
A lot of attractions become outdated and need to be replaced.
A 3D movie is a no go in a theme park in 2024.
The movie Muppet vision 3D is outdated. It shows.
Now a lot of fans cry because it was Jim Hensons last work.
Jim Henson died in 1990.
34 years ago...
Disneyworld is not a museum and needs to get allong with its time.
Monsters Inc dates from 2001 and now we finally we get the attraction we all have been begging for !
@@danasandoval624why are you here then?
I remember Walt saying, “Here in Florida we have the blessing of size. Meaning instead of maintaining and expanding the parks, we’ll sell the land for a quick buck and implode our unique, timeless attractions when we face competition. If we can dream it, we can doze it.”
I think I also remember him saying something about decreasing park quality and making visiting a living nightmare. 🤔
@@GR8FLMD3AD “Disneyland will never be finished, but our company will be after this guy is done with it”- Walt Disney
“I love the nostalgic myself. I hope we never lose some of the things of the past…unless it interferes with more IP rides and gift shops in the parks.”
@@josephbrown9685I mean are people complaining about mickeys railroad and cosmic rewind?
@@CarolCityCane305 I’m being a little facetious. Not everything they’ve done has been a disaster (though I personally don’t like Runaway Railway much), but in general they are overdoing it with IPs these days. No more original attractions and a willingness to destroy beautiful landscapes regardless of historical context and theming is a path to making WDW less appealing overall.
Brayden I so appreciate your work. You are about the only reporter who tells it straight up anymore. Thanks for real analysis.
Hollywood Studios needs capacity. The Animation Courtyard & Star Wars Launch Bay provide very little, so that is the perfect spot for Monsters Inc.
Plus, Toy Story Land is right nearby so you can make that a Pixar area.
Good point.
Better yet why not just build a fifth park and then you can do Pixar land with monsters Inc. land and cars land and a villains land
I agree, however, I think instead of knocking down corporate offices, they'll probably expand into the parking lot behind Launch Bay which would also allow for a second entrance via Sunset Blvd!
I don’t want to lose Muppetvision 3D or Star Tours. I hope your analysis is spot-on, as usual, and those are safe. Animation Courtyard makes the most sense for this attraction.
Star tour should be moved to batoo.
@@2freeIvX where is batoo?
I really hope that if Muppetvision 3D going, they move it somewhere else. I remember when Disney re-themed Muppet Courtyard in 2017 to Grand Avanue, people were furious. Disney knows this is a popular ride (they look at attendance data), if it won't work there they WILL move it elsewhere in the park
Muppets is not gonna go anywhere, they just refurbished it with brand new seating and they made the film digital and it’s the last project that Jim Henson worked on and as for Star tours They added new locations and new characters plus is a smaller area so hands-down it’s going to go in animation courtyard.
@@2freeIvX Bantoo should be expanded out to include Star Tours
I really want Disney’s Hollywood Studios to tear down the Star Wars launch Bay not Muppets 🥺
Agreed 100 percent
Apparently someone on Twitter said their office in HS is being relocated (if you don’t know, Animation Courtyard has a lot of backstage offices) so I think Muppet Vision is saved
@@Joopitor I heard their tweet got deleted
@@vphil09probably because you’re not supposed to share work content on social media. Especially something like Disney.
@@vphil09 Welp. Here’s to hoping it’s still true
13:39 Muppet Vision 3-D was the LAST thing that Jim Henson EVER worked on. If Disney doesn't think that makes it worth keeping, then CLEARLY they don't deserve to own the Muppets anymore because that's just disrespectful.
If Disney made that Muppet's Great Movie Ride, that might lessen the 'burn'. I doubt that Muppet Vision 3-D has a large operating budget.
3-D theater attractions are not appealing to general consumers anymore like they were years ago. It doesn’t matter if it was Walt’s last project he worked on, any 3-D theater attraction has an expiration date & it’s sooner rather than later.
@@Pmmmm123 Jim Henson, not Walt Disney. Way to sound like a disrespectful Disney executive.
@@Pmmmm123 "It doesn't matter if it was Walt's last project he worked on." Okay history hater.
Muppets is safe. Say goodbye to animation courtyard.
I like Jim Shull's speculation of claiming a portion of the parking lot. He said there's other advantages like opening it up for future expansion not just Monsters inc. He said there could be a pathway through Muppets leading into Monsters.
I dont understand disneys obsession with removing attractions to make new attractions… the whole issue with HS is that there is not enough to do!! Keep muppets and use animation courtyard space instead.
One argument (for removing and rebuilding sections) is: Disney avoids CFTD review, by staying within the land already zoned for parks.
@@polysillycon they have more than enough land to expand on even factoring in reviews or reconfiguaration of drainage and conservation.
they have an entire empty StarWars hotel right outside the park they could easily just reconfigure and link up
The fact that Disney hasn’t addressed this yet I feel means one of 2 things.
1 - They genuinely haven’t decided where it’s going yet, which seems odd for a project that is supposed to break ground next year
Or
2 - It’s replacing Muppets and they’re too afraid to tell us.
If it was replacing Animation Courtyard or some other area, I think they would have told us by now.
Continuing with Options #2-Disney maybe gauged the reaction to "Hey new Cars land in the Magic Kingdom! We are placing it where the Rivers of America and Tom Sawyer Island are." That might have an impact on the Monsters location.
It could also mean 3rd or 5th etc... but all of it boils down to "COST" they are so cheao they refuse to address things like raw sewage seeping out in the open air i magic kingdom.
Rats Roaches Snakes in the Carousel of progress a ride that is technically 60 yrs old built fir the 1964 worlds fair barely doing anything for jungle cruise itself an outdated ride they couldn't complete correctly when it was build 50+ years ago
These parks are what keep thr company a float yet they refuse to update or properly maintain Things liken Monorail system or animal kingdom
Agreed, Disney isn’t expanding anything. They are just replacing beloved attractions that they have let go into disrepair and puking up IP wherever they can. So sad.
Accept Villans land
@@CrazyManhog True, but that is “IF” they even build that land.
@@CrazyManhogit will be very disappointing modern Disney is trash
@@victorfontaine000 I don't think half the stuff they announced gets built. Disney is notorious for over promising and under delivering. I have zero faith in this company.
Awesome point with the Rivers Of America at Disneyland. They took a very slim part of it away, but then made it even better and then put a whole star wars land behind it. If they can do that, why can’t we keep our rivers of America, at least the front portion that’s closest to liberty square. Tons of space behind Big Thunder Mountain that they are not utilizing.
100% agree....launch bay is a waste of space
Couldn't agree more. I love the Monsters Inc idea, but my girlfriend, upon first visiting DHS, said Muppets was her favorite attraction. Animation area needs help.
If Disney listens to people, at least one bit, they’ll tear down Animation Courtyard and leave the Muppets in peace
Fingers crossed it's at animation courtyard!
I agree 100 percent Brayden. Put it in the art of animation courtyard . That area sucks anyway.
That's where it's going. Those with good sources have said as much. Disney just hasn't announced yet.
@@MrMac1138 really?? i hope they expand into the parking lot behind so theres a second entrance via Sunset Blvd!!
Launch Bay because they JUST did a Muppet Vision 3D upgrade/referb. There's also the parking lot they just redone.
Im glad you finally made a video about this!
They should definitely put it in a low traffic area like Animation Courtyard! Especially since muppet merchandise is so popular throughout the parks!
I saw a meme the other day that essentially said these announcements were telling Universal to “hold my beer”.
I cannot imagine anything future from the truth. You nailed it on the head here with your “no expansions, just replacements”. I’m not sure at what point Disney will wake up and realize what they’ve done, but I fear it will be far too late.
hold my beer because I want to go to epic universe. lol
I do hope they wake up and realize what they have done too.
But they probably won’t until the stock drops to an alarming level, the theme park attendance drops even more then it already has, and Disney+ doesn’t start making money.
@@Gary-z5ysorry to break it to you but this company as currently constructed is INCAPABLE of delivering anything worthwhile. They lack the creativity and foresight. The entire leadership is nothing but a bunch of number crunchers and woke liberal whack jobs!!
I think one of the biggest things to take away from D23 was that Disney were cowards and waited until after the event to say where some of this new stuff would be going. They know that they would have gotten boo'd off stage had they announced that Cars stuff would replace rivers of america instead of going behind big thunder.
Personally it would make more sense to build the monsters inc land on the parking lot and actually expand the park. I believe those are mostly cast parking so Disney can make a parking structure. The flow through muppets to Monsters would mean those empty shops and dinning locations can be filled.
Well, that would be better. Doesn’t having it over there make the park lopsided
How about a multilevel parking garage in the parking lot? Build UP not OUT..
Except it wouldn't. One of the reason that they can't do a 5th park is because they can't maintain their current 4 parks. In that sense putting in animation courtyard, a dead area, make the most sense. As for star tour it's very small are you easily be an extension to bottom if they move them.
they are expanding into A parking lot but not that one. The parking lot behind Launch Bay will be incorporated and provide a second entrance to Monsters Inc. Land
Its so frustrating seeing what disney is doing to the parks especially when you see how much unused land disney has. I can think of 2 things they can do like make parking multi layered like a parking garage or of they dont want to do that they can move the parking back and add some trams or even expand the monorail. It feels like they refuse to actually expand any of their parks even though it clearly looks like they have the room to expand.
Hoping that with how many park logistics issues Hollywood Studios has as it is, they recognize that it makes a lot more sense to expand their attractions with the space that's not being used rather than replace two attractions that are pretty good with capacity (and also reliable unlike some attractions...)
I still can’t believe they want to take out Rivers of America. Such a bad idea. Hope the Muppets stay where they are. It’s not looking good for Walt Disney World’s future in my opinion. So sad to hear about all of these removals.
Think of how many guests Cars land can absorb rather than Rivers of America. I was at Tom Sawyer Island last year and it was completely dead. A lot of people don't want to wait for the raft to be taken to a place you walk around. Will I miss it? Absolutely, but I'm more excited about a big e-ticket ride that soaks up guests like a sponge. Plus, Disney has to do something big to combat Epic Universe.
No one goes to TSI and our ROA doesn’t even have seats. Neither is an opening day attraction.
I, too, hope they choose Animation Courtyard. It doesn’t make sense for Disney to get rid of a high capacity show like the Muppets in a park that already has capacity problems. Animation Courtyard is a Ghost Town now. Disney Junior can be moved to the old “Who Wants to be a Millionaire” show building and a Harryhausens Restaurant can go there. The Little Mermaid show can stay open during construction, then when the main construction is over, it can be rethemed to a Monsters Inc. show. By the way everyone complaining about the Rivers of America being filled in should watch Chris with a K’s video about how if you want a Beyond Big Thunder area, you have to remove the Rivers of America to allow access. It’s very interesting.
Why do we have to lose anything??? They have plenty of room in Florida to add whatever they want!!😮
With all the new expansions, they could build a whole new theme park instead of tearing down things that we all love!
@@TVTIME-be8zeparks don’t have anywhere near enough things to do definitely need more rides
We need less shopping for Chinese souvenirs and restaurants... 😂
But then, how could Iger possibly afford "The Acolyte" and other DEI projects? Heaven forbid entertainment gets more resources than social justice! /s
Not at MGM theyvare locked in by the road structure.
Josh D’Mara seems like a Slimy Used Car Salesman and completely Untrustworthy.
I really wish Disney would make rock ‘n’ roll roller coaster themed to Dr. Teeth and the Electric Mayhem! Seems like a no-brainer to me! After watching this video they should move muppets 3d to make room for the laugh floor and put muppets 3d to the lighting McQueen attraction (now that cars are coming to MK! Then BOOM! Now you have a new muppets area with 2 awesome reasons to visit the land. As for animation, Courtyard Zootopia maybe??
Yes!
Or a powerline coaster from a goofy movie
Oh man I’d love that!
Or retheme Rock N Roller Coaster to Stitch’s Hawaiian Roller Coaster Ride
Animation courtyard would add Capacity.
Such an interesting analysis. Unlike the rivers of America which really appear to be done for do you think the fan community still has time to possibly influence the decision of animation courtyard versus muppet area? It seems so very clear that Disney has made the decision to concede the late 20’s to epic universe and is positioning for a comeback in the 30’s. At 76 I have to accept that I might never go back to magic kingdom once they commence the visual blight of destroying the rivers of America. With construction at the animation courtyard there might be a chance for me to have a few more Hollywood studios visits but with the destruction of the muppets attraction I just feel my disneyworld days may be truly over. Thanks for your empassioned coverage. It is appreciated!
I’ve been predicting Animation Courtyard and feel like it’s the most fitting spot. Hard to say at the end of the day. Hope they announce the location in the next month or two
Jim Shull did a great video on this and one of his ideas was that it would push through the Muppet's Courtyard and into the parking lot. Dividing that lot into 2 expansion pads.
You’re good, Brayden, and your analysis pulls in all the threads. Disney executives say there are no sacred cows. The Muppets in their theatre are sacred cows to me. The Rivers of America, TSI, and the riverboat are sacred cows to me. I do like Monsters Inc. and would like to see them in the Animation Courtyard/Star Wars Bay, where they don’t even have real photographers to take your photo with Chewbacca, Darth Vader, etc.
Animation Courtyard can have Laugh Floor inside the little mermaid or Disney Junior buildings easily. Also, you can have that area link Toy Story land & Sunset Blvd with extended walkways. It would open the park up significantly.
‘In Florida we have the luxury of space’
How does it help capacity if they just replace attractions instead of expanding ?
Some areas in Florida had animal habitats and Native villages so these were protected
It saves lots of money.
That is something Walt said 58 years ago (as scripted by Marty Sklar), things change. That was before they built 4 theme parks and a ton of hotels.
I’ll believe it when construction starts
I hope you are right. Let’s have some endless delays.
You better wait until the construction ends. Look at Epcot.
@@2railnation You actually have a great point. Didn’t the train coaster take five years to build?
Respectfully, it's not a door factory. it's a door warehouse.
It’s a energy factory with a big ol door library
Oh aye!
Muppets is awesome! I want Monsters Land in Animation Courtyard.
When I first saw Monsters Inc, when i saw them riding the door conveyer belt, I thought this would make a great suspended or inverted roller coaster
I heard that someone from the offices said that they got a notice that the office is moving
Hope this is true and becomes a reality
Muppet Vision and Star Tours are my favorite things at DHS. Muppet Vision is the best 4d movie at WDW and Star Tours is better than the Galaxy's Edge rides.
The amount of change Hollywood Studios has gone through is crazy. The Animation Courtyard used to be where you entered the 'studio' and was the original entrance from the tram tour. The tram tour was moved and then it became the Magic of Disney Animation tour entrance, and then becoming Launch Bay, which was really just to hype up/ hold people over for Galaxies Edge. Launch Bay doesn't really have a purpose anymore so I can see it going. It's just crazy that what was the entrance for the main experience of the park on opening day is likely going to be demolished.
I think they should retire Aerosmith and make it Dr. Teeth and the Electric Mayhem. They could use the Launch Bay area for Monsters Inc and move all the office to the Star Wars hotel, which could easily accommodate the office space in the hotel rooms. They have open air meeting rooms and a restaurant. 5:36
Steven Tyler is such a sick creepy twisted disgusting p-word i can't even go into the park until they do this (or get rid of him somehow, please, dear gods) so YAS! Love Dr T and EM! Haha! The execs should be "forced" to move their offices into ALL their failed projects
💯👍😊 As always, consistently brilliant commentary.
Disney, put this in Animation Courtyard. Please don’t take my Muppets!
Bulldoze Launch Bay that no one uses and build it there. Or build out into the parking lot, and build another parking lot somewhere else. They have like 40 square miles of space there. Or they could have left the parks alone, and used all the stuff from D23 to just build a 5th park, so they don't have to close anything.
Mickey views the 🐐🐐your the best Brayden
They need to expand the Muppets and claim the whole ‘sesame’ street for children. Add a muppet dark ride, add a muppet store and add live characters.
They had a store, that apparently has been closed since 2020😢
Muppets and Sesame Street are two different things. Sesame Street is at Sea World.
I'm not that much into Disney, but your energy and enthusiasm keeps bringing me back to your videos
I think your theory is definitely on point! I’ve heard some people say ‘Well they’re not going to replace Muppets. They just redid the seats.’ But if they just replace muppets instead of tearing it down that argument falls apart.
Thank you for the great update and information. You are the best!!!
Brayden - this makes me SO nervous for Muppets!! With MuppetVision closed at DL, and the pending sale of the Henson Studios property … feels like endangered/extinction level for our beloved Muppets. I hope it’s the former Animation Building/Launch Bay that gets revitalized … and not the erasure of The Muppets.
WAIT Launch Bay will probably be the entrance to Monsters Inc. Land. BUT with both the ToyStory and StarWars expansions we got two entrances to both lands. Therefore, the land will more than likely expand (not into their beloved Animations build but instead) into the parking lot behind Launch Bay which would allow a second entrance to the land via Sunset Blvd. @MickeyViews
I miss the animation building so bad. The animation class was a highlight for me on many trips 😢
They still got You in Disney California Adventure! So much fun that i can't believe i only recently started doing it. Animation Academy (and Muppets) forever!
Keep the Muppets! Tell Disney please. Open the Muppet store. Bring back muppet Merch! And also give pizza rizzo some better pizza. Can we get some delicious pizza over there!
What about (as I saw somewhere) they built it in the parking lot behind Star Tours? This would actually add space and capacity, plus allow for future expansion. They can also build this with no interrupt to the rest of the park. Star Tours could be re-themed to a Monsters ride.
Leave muppet babies alone. Nobody goes to launch bay
lol I just went and got a picture with Chewbacca. You are right hardly anybody goes there.
Yes the Muppets should stay, the launch bay is basically a ghost town so in my opinion the monsters Inc. land and coaster should go in the old animation courtyard. Please Disney!
@@henryrondeau221why no one goes to that show it’s always a 5 min stand by
People just go there now just to cool off from the hot sun
@@CarolCityCane305 because Muppets has one attraction in HS while Star Wars redundantly takes up three separate areas.
You absolutely destroyed it!! I've been waiting for this video since you did the pre-prediction for D23 (2024) (Awesome by the way), your breakdown of the old Disney propaganda photo and date, your insight and sources on new stuff on its way, your attention to detail, and your knowledge of Disney, the de-theming of hotel rants, the calling out of CEO's, VP's, Presidents of opts. It's nice to see someone who isn't just sticking up for Disney all the time, your understanding of business in general is great. This all is why you're best in the business!! I'm super stoked you are doing more Mickey Views videos again getting 100k plus views unreal! If it did go between Muppets and Star Tours at least they maybe could do something else in the animation courtyard or bring it back! I think with the Star Wars land in place, there is no need for the launch bay though, so probably end up landing there because they were just throwing Star Wars wherever they could after the investment years ago.
When it comes to expansion versus replacement, I think one of the reasons they prefer to replace over expand is that expansions require them to add a lot of staff, which cuts into profit. Sure, an expanded land, in particular, can increase revenue from new shops and restaurants, but that only works if attendance increases in the park overall. I think they will only expand if they are confident the park will experience higher attendance. Both AK and DHS attendance is down, so maybe that provides optimism that new lands in those parks will boost attendance.
I love your detailed analysis of everything Great job!
Braden, it’s actually going behind the Sunset Ranch Market in the empty parking lot adjacent to Rockin Roller Coaster. You will enter Monstroplolis off Sunset Blvd.
Btw, the Muppets show and the corporate building will not be torn down. Only a section of Launch Bay will be affected.
I wondered same thing!
It would be one of the biggest mistakes in Disney Parks history to remove Muppets Vision 3D
Why? That show barely gets anyone to go see it…its a huge waste of of space
@@giggitty08 animation courtyard is a bigger waste of space then Muppets
@@giggitty08it’s almost like it’s a spit in the face of not only Jim Henson but the muppet name itself
@@giggitty08I was just down there and saw the show three or four times. Theater was filled every time.
It was Jim Henson's last Muppet project before passing away; the last time he voiced them, too. Entertainment is a chore to Bob Iger; putting in minimal effort so he can get back to more DEI.
It would make so much sense to put Monsters in the Animation Courtyard because it's next to Toy Story, and that would create a nice Pixar land area. When the Rockin' Roller Coaster is eventually rethemed, maybe that could be an attraction from another Pixar movie like The Incredibles.
Anything but p-word murderer Steven Tyler -- too revolting to even think of going to DHS ever until he is out
When I see the monstropolis street images and video clips, I see the opportunity for something like the Osborne lights being used during the Christmas holiday season!
Your commentary is spot on Brayden
Brayden your video updates are pure magic ! Thank you fir your incredibly upbeat attitude and factual presentations! Absolutely love watching you and learning more about disney that I'd never know otherwise! A+
Disney…don’t you dare touch Muppets!!!
Couldn't agree more - they are replacing things, not expanding (outside of Villains land)
Great job, I enjoy your truthfulness and honest opinion.
I think it makes sense that it goes by Animation Courtyard because it’s proximity to Toy Story land and you can create some Pixar bridging between both areas
THIS. This is what I’ve been dissecting in my head since it was announced. I can hear and feel the passion in your voice Brayden. Phenomenal work and breakdown yet again.
My theory was to use AoA but extend it down to RnR and make that the entire MI land, but after watching this I clearly see your point of not wasting RNR and simply retheming it.
As always keep up the great work.
As always, great updates, info and speculation.
I hope instead of demolishing Muppet vision
10 years from now will be a muppetland with Muppet Vision
Not to mention Hollywood studios already has god awful capacity issues. If you close muppets land for a while to transform it that takes away a people eater. It may not be much but its still something to do. Disney needs as much of that as possible. Also didnt they just update this area?
i wish disney would hire you. you have so much disney knowledge and ideas that would bring so much improvements.
Brayden, You are spot on with the things you are saying, you may not be exact, but your thought processes are most likely true because these guys have already demonstrated doing things like this. There seems to be a total disregard to the past, everything that got them to where they are today “demolish it,” they need to retain some of these attractions, for the history, for the memories they have made; refurbish and expand the parks, some of us enjoy the nostalgia.
I agree. Animation courtyard. Think I’ve used other words for that area 🤣
if only we could go back in time and have Michael Eisner & Frank Wells take control of this mess.
So true, So true
If they kill both Star Tours and Muppets they are officially insane. When we say we wan't new stuff, we don't mean "we wan't new stuff to replace the old stuff" lol
totally agree, star tours was a childhood fav for me 😭 don’t understand why they’d get rid of both rides when they have so much unused land?
I really hope it goes in the old Animation area. Tired of them just replacing attractions. New should mean new, as in additional. They can’t increase capacity doing this swap stuff.
25 years after the movie came out, nice timing disney
@@jefftoons 23 but close enough, by the time it’s leveled it’ll be the 25th lmao
I don’t get this lol it’s like cars this is old stuff the kids don’t know anything about
@@libertysdaddy1514 wdym?
@@vphil09 the ip is irrelevant at this point they are soo ip heavy but incorporating thing that are 20 years old same thing with Tiana that 2009 that’s a long time ago to be building a brand new attraction now themed to that … the timing is all off
so we're only supposed to sink millions into movies that just came out whether or not they're any good? it'll be 25 years old, but a classic. no one want to lose Muppets, which is even older, but pisses and moans about Monsters Inc being too old...the internet is dumb.
Keep Jim Henson's Memory Alive...Keep MuppetVision 3-D @ WDW's Hollywood Studios...!!!! 😢
But they don't even try to keep Walt Disney's memory alive! Man, we need much more Muppet action in DL/DCA
The THUMBNAIL, LOL. ❤
4 year old concept art… I have lost all faith in Disney fr. Universal has all our love now 😢
You say that as if it’s a bad thing. Just remember without Universal, their would be no Disney.
@@PattiiMayonnaise I would love to be fans of both! WDW was my happy place from 2005-the pandemic. I had many family trips, was a cast member, had my honeymoon at Disney, and when we moved back to Florida was a pass holder for 7 years. I didn’t become a universal fan until I saw how great they have become in the last 5 years. Every time I visited Disney lately I left feeling bummed with their choices and operations. So I’m breaking up with Disney for the foreseeable future which is sad to me, and we will be spending our time and money at universal. I don’t want my good memories of Disney tainted by the current state of the parks.
That piece is four years old. But the other is not. Which can help us hope it is going to the animation courtyard, since it's likely newer concept art.
Love your content ! Hopefully it happens at animation courtyard
Brayden I think your analysis of Monstropolis replacing the Muppet’s area is spot on. All you have to do is line up the water tower barrel on top of the current bathrooms to see the area depicted will replace Pizza Rizzo, the gift shop, and momma Melrose to extend out into the parking lot. Why is it so difficult for WDW to EXPAND and build new attractions on ANY of the existing parking lots while simultaneously expanding the parking lot footprint to offset the park attraction expansion? Why do they always want to rip out existing and replace existing attractions???!!! They have all this unused real estate, why don’t they use it to EXPAND the WDW parks???!!! 🙄😜
Animation Courtyard makes more sense, you really don't have anything going on there except the Little Mermaid on the corner. So everything can got behind that. the Muppet vision area would create a wash for opening more area for headcount. Muppets continues to draw and have a relatively full theater
Disney know Muppet Vision is a beloved attraction. So I would say demolish Pizza Russo, Put it in the Mupet Area. But, Laugh Flour goes into the old Gift Shop, and Muppet Vision 3d get a re-directed entrance. Keeping an great attraction and adding more
I’ve seen a report stating they’ve already told the employees working behind animation courtyard that they will have to relocate.
One person on Twitter claimed they were told to vacate an office, deleted the tweet, and then sites ran with it. I know why those employees are being moved. It is not for office demolition I promise you.
I highly doubt this is happening with Budget Cut Bob at the helm..
economy seems to be grinding to a halt. I would be more afraid of the federal government taking everybody's money to pay for $35 trillion in debt.
I enjoy your videos, keep them coming. I miss the backlot tour at the studios park .
A coaster themed to a 25 year old ip, made by pixar, in the late 2020's.
What could go wrong lol.
Brayden, you are absolutely amazing at tour craft. With WDWNT being sold out to corporate, you're the last one standing on giving the real news about something so many people care about. Keep up the amazing work.
good video as always. I have been watching since you were little kid I can't believe how fast time has gone by.
The Muppet attraction is so much better than the laugh floor attraction!!!
15:01 Exactly! Thanks as always for great content and information, you’re the best.
If it’s not Launch Bay I will lose it.
The rant at the end was spot on!