I always find it disingenuous when people call the AD5M a bambu clone when that specific design has always been their "thing". With that being said they did fix that connection issue and even released a phone app. You missed a few other things: the sovol x coprint multicolor system for the sv08 (and sv06) flying bear 3 The qidi's Formbot's Marathon IDEX and that SLS machine from micronics
Very excited for the FLSun S1/T1. Had an FLSun SR before getting an X1C, and it was an absolutely excellent printer. I still miss the mesmerizing delta motion, and the ultra quiet operation. (dont miss the height/size!)
As someone who mostly prints engineering parts, I love that prusa is finally taking a swing at making a printer to achieve those materials at a really good price. I think its gonna be hard for formlabs to sell people on the idea of a $4500 msla printer that is material-locked to boot. I've always wanted to try/own one of their machines, but its hard to go that route and be locked to only them for resins.
I am just quite surprised it's a delta. Those things are so painful to caliber since every point on the bed is a different combination of movement of 3 motors. If 1 motor is lower quality or one belt gets looser, its practicaly impossible to get precise and consistent dimmensions on prints.
The Kobra 3 combo claims it has filament drying built in. According to the video from Sam Prentice, there is no built-in drying in the Creality version.
@@Speedgaming802 Just ordered a Q1 Pro, going to be rocking a Q1 PRO and a Infimech TX instead of my X1C. Infimech TX has been joy so far. Both printers still cost less than I paid for the X1C
@@3DMusketeers I think these reviewer units were all over the place and QC on Qidi's part slipped..you think they would learn their lesson on V1 X-plus 3. Seems Q1 was either rated great with one con being mains voltage on heater or rated a fire trap that prints great ABS lol.
Phrozen Arco is listed at $849.99 - I think they are pricing themselves out of competition. Oh and the multi-color add-on is $300. I think they should have gone after the P1S rather than the X1.
Also ranking printers off one content creator, I feel like decision was made because the "gospel according to nero" when others gave better reviews and much less biased.
oh damn! I didn't know about the ender 3 V3 plus. Finally a large scale printer that's beginner friendly! I'll be able to recommend this one (I don't recommend the V3 null because I don't feel it offers enough over the KE to justify the price).
Grant...Flying Bear Klipperized the Reborn series before you did, with the release of the Reborn 3. If I weren't so captivated by the idea of having an IDEX machine as my next printer, I'd give the Reborn 3 a very close look. Definitely would love to see more info on it, though, as it seems like it was just released very, very recently and nobody seems to have even made a first look or unboxing video, much less a proper review. Speaking of IDEX printers, the RUclips algorithm pushed me into videos from a couple smaller channels on the Vivedino/Formbot Marathon. It's an enclosed 330x300x290 mm printer with dual print heads that can hit 320˚C, Orbiter extruders, a 120˚C bed, Klipper, a temperature-compensated SuperPINDA ABL probe, ball screws, linear rails, and a rather unique motion system where each print head has its own X-axis motor running on the same fixed belt. All for less than a janky Snapmaker J1S, at $1,269 (at least for now). YGK3D interviewed the printer's designer, Dr. Dan Marinescu, in a video from a few months ago , though he sadly did not press the dude on why he put the damn spool holder on the back. Silly spool location aside, the very little amount of info I've come across on this printer over the last few days is truly fascinating, almost as much as Formbot's total unwillingness to use content creators for marketing purposes.
Thank you SO MUCH for making this video! I am buying a printer soon, but I see the change in just the last year and I have to wonder whether the next year is worth waiting through before upgrading. . . You're a light in the darkness, instant sub :)
Totally forgot. Would have not scored high. Mine refuses to get too far into prints. Just freezes up. Over half a dozen USB drives, new firmware, etc. Will have to see if Qidi can help here..
@@3DMusketeers that’s really unfortunate, mine has been a dream to print with! Hopefully Qidi can sort you out. I, too, was surprised it wasn’t in the list.
After receiving my Infimech TX yesterday initial impressions are very good. I also own a X1C and I think I prefer this machine most of the time. Waiting on my accessories like the cooling fan and camera. But so far it’s really good. Pretty quiet quality is good and the Initial calibration before a print is way faster than my X1C.
I guess, there might be some surprises later in this year with printers no one thought about. That‘s what makes the 3D printer evolution such a nice area. Hope, you‘ll just review the list at the end of this year. Your list is interesting and I agree with your ranking. Some printers like the Qidi printers are missing though. The problem with such rankings is that every list looks different, because they always depend on subjective aspects and properties. Your list is very helpful, because you nicely explain your ranking. Thanks a lot for the video.
No one outside of the Micronics designer/salesperson has had a chance to play with it yet and it is not yet in production so would be pretty hard to evaluate?
IF they can deliver, and that's a big if, on all their promise, it's an S tier easily. However, they are new to all this and want to do everything in house. That's dangerous. Currently we have been told we are about 1/10th the size they want for creators.. so that sucks, since I do have real powder experience. Hopefully the creators they choose really give it a good shakedown.
Maybe I misunderstood something, but the Orange Storm rating is because it’s not ready for prime time, but it’s not released yet? Weren’t they sent out to creators to implement their feedback?
Grant- you taking the time to do this is so valuable to folks in the field like me, thank you. We are printing scale models for our paying design clients in office to take home before we use our COBOD BOD 2.5 3D concrete printer to do their housing project. We’re considering launching our own 3D printer project- maybe it could be a competition for you and your audience with a big phat payout for the top placing 3D concrete printing prototypes. Let’s go! -Matt, CPH3D Tampa, FL
This is the same company I spent some time with a few months back right? If so, awesome! Glad to hear it. We can definitely look at a contest of sorts. Shoot me an email or text and we can discuss more there!
Flsun S1 or the upcoming Bambu for me. Almost bought a X max3 but no, rather hold out a bit more for a "complete" printer, if there ever will be one that is. Why isn't the Q1 pro included?
I've been really in love with my x max3. My only gripe with it so far has been that their own slicer comes with really weird first layer settings that give prints some really bad elephant's foot
I'm one of those average consumers. I don't even design my own models, yet. I just got an A1 Mini combo and I'm in love. This is my sixth fdm printer since i started in 2021, and it's the FIRST one that's as plug and play as I've been wanting since day one. (The fact that this is the first printer I've EVER successfully printed PETG with doesn't hurt)
Yeah.. Delta printers.. I have a highly modified Super Racer which is awesome. My friend has the V400 which also ripps... So i am looking forward to see what Flsun comes out with ;-)
I watched an unboxing of the T300 and while the lack of a crossbar makes it look interesting in a space, having to engineer the bejesus out of it to maintain rigidity results in a machine that goes right past heccin chonker and into chonkasaurus territory. The base on that thing is freaking enormous, so it's going to eat up a ton of space, and it feels really unnecessary. I guess they're going for a market segment that wants eye appeal and has the shop space for it, and good on them if they can find those customers that'll pay a premium for that, but it's not for me just on practicality vs what you're getting functionally.
There are two things on the arco that bother, one is that it has 4 damn lead screws on a single stepper driver. So no qgl and you bed mesh will look funky, even if you have a perfectly flat bed as a not leveled gantry has the same effect as a crooked frame. Maybe its leveled enough from the factory, but now that two, three and even four point bed/gantry leveling is getting more common (see qidi q1, twotrees sk1, sv08), it would be a good thing to have it too. The other thing is the embedded bed. This about halfs the heat emitting area of the bed. Good for saving electricity on pla, sucks for abs. I asked on a video from slice engineering about chamber temperatures, they only said at least 10c over ambient. They could have said also nothing and i would know about as much as before. But same goes for the sv08, it has also a shroud around the bed, so it might not be as successful or as reliable as another core xy printer at printing abs and similarly more demanding materials.
The Form 4 has a lot of other cool features that I think set it apart from other resin printers. We see the addition of a lot of new features to increase speed and accuracy that really crank it up to the next level. Having just finished my servicing certifications for it and our first batch arriving soon, Im really looking forward to how it can change resin printing in its target market.
A little surprised about the blackberry delta oops i mean the prusa delta getting s tier and not the flsun s1 but we all have our own views, great video though.
I won't consider a Creality machine due to my past experiences. They also have me lost on their naming convention especially with the Ender 3 line, would be much better if they had chosen different names instead of the extra tags.
The Flashforge Adventurer 5M and Pro are perfect for new users that don't want to fidget and customize their printers. They make hardened hot end/nozzles for .25, 04, 06 and 08mm, so I'm not sure why you think they don't? (Edit* My bad, .25 and .04 are not hardened, only .06 and .08.) Orca Slicer is also available and runs amazingly. I've had one issue with mine where i didn't fully click in the hot end/nozzle. It dropped during printing, dug in and snapped the hot end before it stopped itself. That was my mistake, not the machine. Ive printed PLA to CF Nylon to PC with no issues. Haven't had anything warp or pop off the plates. Magigoo and a PEI holographic plate are the only things Ive bought besides a few other necessities for 3D printing
@@3DMusketeers you're 100% right. 06 and 08 are hardened. .25 and 04 are not. Didn't look at it hard enough since anything that's gonna wreck them I print in 06 and 08 anyways since 04 and below tend to clog faster with anything that requires hardened nozzles
I CANNOT STAND BAMBU! I bought a P1P and an AMS (they were sold out of the P1S) the damn thing died after 2 months and Bambu has done nothing to help me. I got an HMS 500.300.2.1 error that bricked the sustem and all Bambu said to me after A MONTH of waiting on my ticket is "make sure the plugs are plugged in correctly"...And they sent me a replacement $8 chord. Nothing else , just that. I have started replacing every part of the Tool Head (thats what the code says it is) and have so far replaced 3 Boards , the fan, 2 chords and it still doesnt work....Theres literally only 3 more parts that I can replace before replacing the Main motherboard...Over $200 in parts to repair this piece of garbage. And get this....This seems to effect a LOT of people. there are 100's of people on Reddit and the Bambu wiki that have this same error and experience with Bambu
@@3DMusketeers Ive tried 4 times on tickets asking to get a rma and to send it in.....No response. They are ghosting me. I spent $1150 on a Bambu printer that is bricked and their customer support pretends i dont exist. Its a terrible company
How did I miss that one?!?!? Theirs is a bit complicated. If they can deliver it's a S tier, clearly, but that delivery is the biggest challenge for a small company like theirs.
It is not released yet so it is not possible to evaluate it. It looks like it will addres some of the issues of the V-Core 3, suchas as the beds hula movement.
@@liamventer Umm the whole video was in printers yet to be released. Some are not out yet and don't even have pricing yet they made it into the chart. I have already ordered a VCore 4 so I know the pricing.
Phrozen Arco is $849 ($699 early bird pricing) without the panels - the multimaterial system aka the chroma kit is $299 (early bird $240). I think the panels are MSRP $170 early bird $120…there took me 2 minutes to find that info lol also where are the QIDI tech products?? How are you gonna add the orange storm giga but not the Q1 Pro?!
Phrozen updated after we filmed. I forgot the q1 pro, but for me I'm ranking it around B-C at best. Mine isn't reliable and just stops printing. We don't know why yet.
I've actually spent a good deal of time thinking about my 3d printing wants and needs. Zero interest in resin printing so that's a start. Zero interest in multi colour printing so that minimizes the selection more. So I thought more about what do I honestly use my printers for and it is 99% functional/utilitarian stuff. I have multiple bed slingers already and they do what I need but I would like a high speed core XY. So that narrows down my options quite a bit. But then I thought about the other side of printing and took the printer out of the equation...slicers. I use Cura as I really do not like the layout/logic prusaslicer uses. But I gave orca slicer a serious try and I HATE it. So illogical on it's layout. Have to dig for too many options. Such a complete PITA to get setup and I still couldn't figure out where many of the common options I use in Cura are and I outright refuse to have to watch videos just to figure it out. I actually had to do a search to figure out how to change the filament settings. I don't want a preset profile for ANY filament. I want a base profile that I can adjust each setting for EVERY slice. This is dead simple in Cura but orca slicer seems to actively dissuade you from doing this.. Then I thought that if it is based on bambu slicer (or bambu is based on it) then this means ANYTHING bambu related is off the table. I do not care how functional the software is, if it is setup so poorly and illogically that it becomes actual effort to use then I will NOT use it. So it seems that of all the options out there the SV08 is the ONLY one I would even consider...in about a year once it's been out for a while and all the suckers, I mean first adopters, have chosen to pay to be beta testers.
Can you do a voron / ratrig style ranking? Would also be great if you can rank the latest IDEX printers. I'd like to build a ratrig but a bit intimidated by that process, so im considering a good IDEX voron style that's easier to setup
Did you listen to the intro? I clearly state this is based on the company specs and their history if we have not seen it yet. Some in here we have seen, and used, but not all.
out of curiosity when you visited prusa did you see their MJF machine? (assuming they had it at the time, it might be brand new). I have 2 nextruder parts included with my MMU3 (i'll print my own parts) kit. They were included because the nextruder main plate wears out too quickly. They MJF helps it (even PCCF wasn't good enough). They didn't say if it's a permanent fix if these are consumables. They also said many nextruder parts are not good enough and PCCF is required to help with that. So they included ALL the nextruder parts that have anything to do with the mmu3. The main plate is MJF and everything else is PCCF.
@@3DMusketeers the mmu3 is done and printing well after a little calibration....sadly I didn't properly tighten the nozzle after reassembly and it got a case of nasty heat creep. The obxidean nozzle has filament up to the copper heartbreak. No idea how to fix it. So I'm back on the normal brass nozzle for now.
The Saturn 4 does not share the tilt vat with the Ultra. The Flashfogfe AD5M Pro was regularly selling for about $400 on Amazon. Nero's printer was a one-off on the idler gear pin issue; he even confirmed that on Twitter. Given my bad experiences with the K1 Max, I'm hoping Creality gets the K2 right. What Sam told me at RMRRF has me even more hopeful. The Comgrow T300 is interesting for not having a top crossbeam, but that price is a deal breaker. I have faith Peopoly will get all the kinks worked out of the Magneto as well. You know how I feel about Bambu, and we're on opposite ends of the spectrum on much of that; but I respect what you've said and done relative to them. The AFS is the direction Prusa is heading, IMO. I see them moving away from the consumer market given all the strategic aquisitions/decisions over the last three years.
hmm $479 for the V3 +.....That's a little higher than I was expecting. It makes it a little harder to recommend for a beginner. Then again there is nothing this size that is cheaper and "just click print".
I for the life of me can't comprehend why you would waste your money on a bambu at this point. You have an XL 5 toolhead. That's a fantastic printer. You can't use bambu to its full extent because of ITAR. You hate the company because they are shady as hell. It seems like a no brainer to me. If you want to get a larger printer for shits and giggles, try the V3 +. I'll bet you you'll be surprised.
@@3DMusketeers what is the best 3D printer for for polyamide and polycarbonate? I was looking at the X1C but can’t have data about my prints phoning home!
The V3 plus is an automatic A tier. You just have to keep in mind that Ender 3 and Ender V3 series is not the same thing. Not even close. It should really be called the Ender 4 line. The SE, KE, and Null are all fantastic printers. I've been recommending them like crazy and the number of issues I see in the groups have gone down mainly because people aren't pulling out their hair trying to level their printer or set the z-offset (it's why I refuse to recommend the sovols now). My personal favorite based on price and features (and only reviews since I don't have them), is the KE. I feel like the Null is over priced. But......There aren't any large scale V3 printers......until now. I've seen people that turned down their nose at the KE because it wasn't big enough only to get a crappy elegoo or something with the stupid bedsprings and I want to say every time, "don't come complaining when you can't level it".
I'm wondering if anyone is going to try to compete with the prusa MMU3 + mk4 combo. The claim is because of the way they develop the tips on the mk4, it leaves less filament behind. Therefore it requires less purge (about 30%) than normal. This is on top of the fact that the MMU tries to not cut the filament. Bambu always cuts the filament. Apparently bambu is now pushing for a slight retraction before cutting, but it means the mmu automatically wins assuming it performs. I've been heard everyone sing the praises of the MMU3. Even people that hated the MMU2. I'll know very soon. It's about 75% assembled. So when I see phrozen copying bambu my first question is are they trying to compete with the ams as a like for like or the prusa mmu?
@@drstefankrank Just during the assembly process, everything feels better. And I'm watching a video on the nextruder. It looks like it's self calibrating. That's freaking awesome.
I can also remember something like a new printer, "new flagship" printer as a reward for a makerworld contest or so. So either a second gen x1 or a bigger x1 or even a combination of a second generation and bigger than the x1. I personally dont think that there will be a straight up enlarged x1 due to how expensive the tooling of the x1 is. Steel stamping tools are amongst the most expensive tools available together with forging and injection molding tools, and the x1 needs several of those including a entirely new assembly line for the frame and motion system. Since the x1 is getting 2 years old, it would be time for an update, now with the competition catching up
@@kilianlindlbauer8277 thanks for the perspective. I don’t think about the tools involved. I’ve been holding off buying. Limping my current printer. Here is hoping one comes this year.
One of their reps reached out with some of the tweets teasing it. Nothing concrete, but technically it fit what we were asking for the list, so I tossed it in. As you can see, it's just an X1c photo lol. I maaaayyyy know some things but I give it about a 2.87% that we get one for review lol.
I tried giving Anycubic my loyalty but their machines are so unreliable, I'm done. In short, my Kobra has needed all kinds of replacement parts through warranty and I'm just tired. And in terms of resin printers, I've had two and they both lost their touch after the first dozen prints and then eventually burnt out prematurely.
@@3DMusketeers All good man! My BIQU is the ole reliable in terms of FDM, and then Elegoo completely changed how thought about resin printers -- just so much more reliable.
i Agree that the data collection is not good or right but my X1C is my first printer that run out of the box for 200h+ without me upgrading/tweaking/calibrating after every print. But im hxped for the printers to come in 2024
is it worth the trade off? I say no. And given the investor to Bambu, IDG Capital was just named an Enemy of the State to the USA, I have a feeling I am not alone either. Not to say the govt always knows best though lol
@@3DMusketeers i Totally understand that but after i have seen the US Tictok hearing i dont know if the gov understands enough to make these desicions. my problem is i want a printer i put on my desk that just outputs print after print after print and the X1C is my first printer that does just that. if another company can do the sam for a reasonable price fine but the prusa XL is double the price with only one toolhead.
I have both the v3 and the original ender 3 got to say original ender 3 slow but pretty clean prints sucks having to relevel for every print. The v3 is fast very fast not x1c or k1c fast but fast none the less. My only grip is it seems the z level is just a slight bit too close to the bed. Also I have taken it to heart with bambu taking data I personally will never get one. Though I do not have a print farm or need a secure printer I do not want any more data then has to be out. To much data is already collected already with phones and stuff. I would consider buying one if it was unlocked and was not connected to the web and used usb instead.
Interesting. I have the v3 and yes it is often too close to the bed. And when i adjust the z offset in expert mode it doesn't remember the setting for some reason.
Guess I'm not allowed to miss things even when I put the list out on Twitter and in our discord.. guess you'll miss our interview with the rat rig team.
@@3DMusketeers it's cheapish and large. And it's based on the v3 tech which is easy to use. I've seen people insist on large printers and ended up with bed springs.
I would have appreciated if you continued to compare features and specs of the different printers but you kind of stopped doing that half way through. Hard to understand how you justify ranking them with the points you brought up. And its confusing when you move printers down a tier just because another printer was put in the same tier. Thanks for the content though, heres my comment and like so the algorithm gods bless you!
Did I? Crap, sorry about that. I thought we gave some info about all of them. Some of them are out already so I don't think I went into as much info about those. Moving the printers around is because with different ones in different locations my thoughts change, if that makes sense as then printers get compared to one another.
yeah....The K1 has not been great. The Ender 3 V3 SE, V3 KE, V3 Null have all been fantastic. So my guess is anything based on V3 tech is fine. Anything based on K1 tech scares me. So I'm going to have to pre-rank the K2 down until I see what the reviews say.
Not a big fan of overlooking problems, even if other people would - I'd rank the Bambu a bit lower. Mostly agree with the rest of the list, though. Would LOVE if Creality opened up their RFID tech for others to use - PLEASE CREALITY! It would be so fantastic if there was an RFID standard for filaments, rather than everybody having their own proprietary spin.
I forgot it.. I have had issues with mine, working with Qidi.. I am human, I made a mistake, but to be fair, NO ONE ELSE said to put it in there lol... We asked online and in our discord
I mean, I clearly stated in the beginning they are ranked based on specs and company performance. Its why creality is lower than some others even though their specs are good. Their company has a rough track record.
You missed what could possibly be THE BEST printer that came out this year....QiDi Q1 Pro. Its cutting edge and at the $400 price point omg a huge value
@@3DMusketeers Really? Wow all ive seen from other reviewers is positive reviews. Can you do a video? Id like to know more about its issues. I was considering getting one
I am still trying to narrow down the issue. I have to put in a new support request soon. We thought it was the SD card, but nope, new card, new sliced data, same issue. I am now going on it's overheating, but cannot confirm.
He said "I don't think the base Saturn 4 has the tilt feature". Annnd I am out. Honestly dude, you cant make a tier list on a bunch of printers you didn't research. You lost me big dog, I wont be back...
Huh, last I checked this wasn't an airport. No need to announce your departure. And for the record, it's not abundantly clear in elegoo's marketing. So.. yeah..
I used to not mind your channel, but you’ve just become a Bambu basher, I even agree with your issues with them, but that’s all we hear about from you, same old same, your printer teir list makes no sense, your comparing printers that aren’t even related. Disgrace
hi 3DMuskateers, have you become a flat earther yet? If not I suggest viewing the 13 part series _what on earth happened_ in my about to learn how the earth is not a globe
@@3DMusketeers okay. my bad. BTW 3DMusketeers, have you become a flat earther yet? If not I suggest viewing the 13 part series what on earth happened in my about to learn how the earth is not a globe
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"I would do a lot for an extra 2 inches"
Seriously caught me off guard
Am I wrong though?!?
@3DMusketeers nah, you're totally right
@@3DMusketeers only if you got a tiny one
Like you wouldn't be okay with some extra length..
@@3DMusketeers I'm afraid he was thinking of some sort of meat
I always find it disingenuous when people call the AD5M a bambu clone when that specific design has always been their "thing". With that being said they did fix that connection issue and even released a phone app.
You missed a few other things:
the sovol x coprint multicolor system for the sv08 (and sv06)
flying bear 3
The qidi's
Formbot's Marathon IDEX
and that SLS machine from micronics
Very excited for the FLSun S1/T1. Had an FLSun SR before getting an X1C, and it was an absolutely excellent printer. I still miss the mesmerizing delta motion, and the ultra quiet operation. (dont miss the height/size!)
As someone who mostly prints engineering parts, I love that prusa is finally taking a swing at making a printer to achieve those materials at a really good price. I think its gonna be hard for formlabs to sell people on the idea of a $4500 msla printer that is material-locked to boot. I've always wanted to try/own one of their machines, but its hard to go that route and be locked to only them for resins.
The resins are nothing but great though, and the slicer profiles "just works". Yes, you do pay for that, but it is genuinely nice tools to use.
I am just quite surprised it's a delta. Those things are so painful to caliber since every point on the bed is a different combination of movement of 3 motors. If 1 motor is lower quality or one belt gets looser, its practicaly impossible to get precise and consistent dimmensions on prints.
The Kobra 3 combo claims it has filament drying built in. According to the video from Sam Prentice, there is no built-in drying in the Creality version.
As a industrial Bambu x1c user I’ve been running mine air gapped since I got it
Surprised by none of the Qidi Tech printers making the list of ranking?
Same
@@Speedgaming802 Just ordered a Q1 Pro, going to be rocking a Q1 PRO and a Infimech TX instead of my X1C. Infimech TX has been joy so far. Both printers still cost less than I paid for the X1C
Totally forgot about the q1 pro. Mine has been a headache unfortunately.
@@3DMusketeers I think these reviewer units were all over the place and QC on Qidi's part slipped..you think they would learn their lesson on V1 X-plus 3. Seems Q1 was either rated great with one con being mains voltage on heater or rated a fire trap that prints great ABS lol.
Are they getting an ams? I have the x plus 3 and plan to drive it i to the dirt like my 2010 mazda haha
My K1 Max is excellent and I can't wait for the K2 Plus!!
Phrozen Arco is listed at $849.99 - I think they are pricing themselves out of competition. Oh and the multi-color add-on is $300. I think they should have gone after the P1S rather than the X1.
oof yeah, thats pricey
This is such a mess ranking printers from different category together lol misleading info
How so? It's just a blind ranking. Once we can get any of these machines it's clearly subject to change.
Also ranking printers off one content creator, I feel like decision was made because the "gospel according to nero" when others gave better reviews and much less biased.
oh damn! I didn't know about the ender 3 V3 plus. Finally a large scale printer that's beginner friendly! I'll be able to recommend this one (I don't recommend the V3 null because I don't feel it offers enough over the KE to justify the price).
Also the Plus will be CFS compatible.
Grant...Flying Bear Klipperized the Reborn series before you did, with the release of the Reborn 3. If I weren't so captivated by the idea of having an IDEX machine as my next printer, I'd give the Reborn 3 a very close look. Definitely would love to see more info on it, though, as it seems like it was just released very, very recently and nobody seems to have even made a first look or unboxing video, much less a proper review.
Speaking of IDEX printers, the RUclips algorithm pushed me into videos from a couple smaller channels on the Vivedino/Formbot Marathon. It's an enclosed 330x300x290 mm printer with dual print heads that can hit 320˚C, Orbiter extruders, a 120˚C bed, Klipper, a temperature-compensated SuperPINDA ABL probe, ball screws, linear rails, and a rather unique motion system where each print head has its own X-axis motor running on the same fixed belt. All for less than a janky Snapmaker J1S, at $1,269 (at least for now). YGK3D interviewed the printer's designer, Dr. Dan Marinescu, in a video from a few months ago , though he sadly did not press the dude on why he put the damn spool holder on the back. Silly spool location aside, the very little amount of info I've come across on this printer over the last few days is truly fascinating, almost as much as Formbot's total unwillingness to use content creators for marketing purposes.
Thank you SO MUCH for making this video! I am buying a printer soon, but I see the change in just the last year and I have to wonder whether the next year is worth waiting through before upgrading. . . You're a light in the darkness, instant sub :)
What about the Qiditech Q1 Pro?
Totally forgot. Would have not scored high. Mine refuses to get too far into prints. Just freezes up. Over half a dozen USB drives, new firmware, etc. Will have to see if Qidi can help here..
@@3DMusketeers fair enough, I have two of there X Smart 3's and they have worked great.
@@3DMusketeers that’s really unfortunate, mine has been a dream to print with! Hopefully Qidi can sort you out. I, too, was surprised it wasn’t in the list.
Yeah my plus 3 works great, the Q1, not so much. Even tried the same prints on the plus 3, no issues.
After I watched this I keep getting ads for a Bambu Lab X1E from several places EXCEPT Bambu. Weird.
lol
After receiving my Infimech TX yesterday initial impressions are very good. I also own a X1C and I think I prefer this machine most of the time. Waiting on my accessories like the cooling fan and camera. But so far it’s really good. Pretty quiet quality is good and the Initial calibration before a print is way faster than my X1C.
I guess, there might be some surprises later in this year with printers no one thought about. That‘s what makes the 3D printer evolution such a nice area. Hope, you‘ll just review the list at the end of this year. Your list is interesting and I agree with your ranking. Some printers like the Qidi printers are missing though. The problem with such rankings is that every list looks different, because they always depend on subjective aspects and properties. Your list is very helpful, because you nicely explain your ranking. Thanks a lot for the video.
Thoughts on the upcoming Micronics SLS printer at around $3k?
No one outside of the Micronics designer/salesperson has had a chance to play with it yet and it is not yet in production so would be pretty hard to evaluate?
IF they can deliver, and that's a big if, on all their promise, it's an S tier easily. However, they are new to all this and want to do everything in house. That's dangerous. Currently we have been told we are about 1/10th the size they want for creators.. so that sucks, since I do have real powder experience. Hopefully the creators they choose really give it a good shakedown.
Maybe I misunderstood something, but the Orange Storm rating is because it’s not ready for prime time, but it’s not released yet?
Weren’t they sent out to creators to implement their feedback?
they have already sent out units and most are having game breaking issues
Grant- you taking the time to do this is so valuable to folks in the field like me, thank you.
We are printing scale models for our paying design clients in office to take home before we use our COBOD BOD 2.5 3D concrete printer to do their housing project.
We’re considering launching our own 3D printer project- maybe it could be a competition for you and your audience with a big phat payout for the top placing 3D concrete printing prototypes.
Let’s go!
-Matt, CPH3D Tampa, FL
This is the same company I spent some time with a few months back right? If so, awesome! Glad to hear it.
We can definitely look at a contest of sorts. Shoot me an email or text and we can discuss more there!
Great job and thanks so much!!
glad you liked it!
Flsun S1 or the upcoming Bambu for me. Almost bought a X max3 but no, rather hold out a bit more for a "complete" printer, if there ever will be one that is. Why isn't the Q1 pro included?
Ah crap forgot the Q1pro! I wouldn't rank it high, mine continues to stop mid print
I've been really in love with my x max3. My only gripe with it so far has been that their own slicer comes with really weird first layer settings that give prints some really bad elephant's foot
my plus 3 has been great too.
I'm one of those average consumers. I don't even design my own models, yet.
I just got an A1 Mini combo and I'm in love. This is my sixth fdm printer since i started in 2021, and it's the FIRST one that's as plug and play as I've been wanting since day one.
(The fact that this is the first printer I've EVER successfully printed PETG with doesn't hurt)
You have to be my favorite 3D printing youtuber! It was nice meeting you at RMRRF and thank you for the Victoria pin!
Thank you for the kind words! Great to meet you as well!
Yeah.. Delta printers.. I have a highly modified Super Racer which is awesome. My friend has the V400 which also ripps... So i am looking forward to see what Flsun comes out with ;-)
Not sure what the hold up is with the S1 and T1, but my two Sherpa mini klipperized SRs and Anycubic Kossel Linear could use a new buddy...
I watched an unboxing of the T300 and while the lack of a crossbar makes it look interesting in a space, having to engineer the bejesus out of it to maintain rigidity results in a machine that goes right past heccin chonker and into chonkasaurus territory. The base on that thing is freaking enormous, so it's going to eat up a ton of space, and it feels really unnecessary. I guess they're going for a market segment that wants eye appeal and has the shop space for it, and good on them if they can find those customers that'll pay a premium for that, but it's not for me just on practicality vs what you're getting functionally.
There are two things on the arco that bother, one is that it has 4 damn lead screws on a single stepper driver. So no qgl and you bed mesh will look funky, even if you have a perfectly flat bed as a not leveled gantry has the same effect as a crooked frame. Maybe its leveled enough from the factory, but now that two, three and even four point bed/gantry leveling is getting more common (see qidi q1, twotrees sk1, sv08), it would be a good thing to have it too.
The other thing is the embedded bed. This about halfs the heat emitting area of the bed. Good for saving electricity on pla, sucks for abs. I asked on a video from slice engineering about chamber temperatures, they only said at least 10c over ambient. They could have said also nothing and i would know about as much as before. But same goes for the sv08, it has also a shroud around the bed, so it might not be as successful or as reliable as another core xy printer at printing abs and similarly more demanding materials.
The Form 4 has a lot of other cool features that I think set it apart from other resin printers. We see the addition of a lot of new features to increase speed and accuracy that really crank it up to the next level.
Having just finished my servicing certifications for it and our first batch arriving soon, Im really looking forward to how it can change resin printing in its target market.
M7 pro or Saturn 4 ultra for best quality on miniatures ?
Don't have either. Look at pixel size and go from there. Both should make great models.
Is the k2 and k2+ Uncle Jessy proof
great question!
Phrozen arco will be roughly $650 dollars and around $850 with ams I believe.
A little surprised about the blackberry delta oops i mean the prusa delta getting s tier and not the flsun s1 but we all have our own views, great video though.
The trilab delta you mean?
High temp is much more valuable to me personally.
I won't consider a Creality machine due to my past experiences. They also have me lost on their naming convention especially with the Ender 3 line, would be much better if they had chosen different names instead of the extra tags.
They are still selling the original Ender 3 which says a lot
The Flashforge Adventurer 5M and Pro are perfect for new users that don't want to fidget and customize their printers. They make hardened hot end/nozzles for .25, 04, 06 and 08mm, so I'm not sure why you think they don't? (Edit* My bad, .25 and .04 are not hardened, only .06 and .08.) Orca Slicer is also available and runs amazingly. I've had one issue with mine where i didn't fully click in the hot end/nozzle. It dropped during printing, dug in and snapped the hot end before it stopped itself. That was my mistake, not the machine. Ive printed PLA to CF Nylon to PC with no issues. Haven't had anything warp or pop off the plates. Magigoo and a PEI holographic plate are the only things Ive bought besides a few other necessities for 3D printing
Did that update recently? They only had 0.6 hardene for the 5 when we filmed this video.
@@3DMusketeers you're 100% right. 06 and 08 are hardened. .25 and 04 are not. Didn't look at it hard enough since anything that's gonna wreck them I print in 06 and 08 anyways since 04 and below tend to clog faster with anything that requires hardened nozzles
Good video
Great idear with the card
I agree with the positioning
I CANNOT STAND BAMBU! I bought a P1P and an AMS (they were sold out of the P1S) the damn thing died after 2 months and Bambu has done nothing to help me. I got an HMS 500.300.2.1 error that bricked the sustem and all Bambu said to me after A MONTH of waiting on my ticket is "make sure the plugs are plugged in correctly"...And they sent me a replacement $8 chord. Nothing else , just that. I have started replacing every part of the Tool Head (thats what the code says it is) and have so far replaced 3 Boards , the fan, 2 chords and it still doesnt work....Theres literally only 3 more parts that I can replace before replacing the Main motherboard...Over $200 in parts to repair this piece of garbage. And get this....This seems to effect a LOT of people. there are 100's of people on Reddit and the Bambu wiki that have this same error and experience with Bambu
Sounds like it needs to go back to Bambu at this point. Sorry you're dealing with that
@@3DMusketeers Ive tried 4 times on tickets asking to get a rma and to send it in.....No response. They are ghosting me. I spent $1150 on a Bambu printer that is bricked and their customer support pretends i dont exist. Its a terrible company
go to your credit card company
Thank you for the cool tier list of printers coming out 🙂 What score does Micronics 3D get?
How did I miss that one?!?!? Theirs is a bit complicated. If they can deliver it's a S tier, clearly, but that delivery is the biggest challenge for a small company like theirs.
You forgot the ratrig VCore 4
It is not released yet so it is not possible to evaluate it. It looks like it will addres some of the issues of the V-Core 3, suchas as the beds hula movement.
@@liamventer Umm the whole video was in printers yet to be released. Some are not out yet and don't even have pricing yet they made it into the chart. I have already ordered a VCore 4 so I know the pricing.
And I have a VCore 3 500 operating all day every day in a facility, what is this bed problem you speak of?
@@phasesecuritytechnology6573I got the early bird link but can't find a buy button? Only wishlit
@phasesecuritytechnology6573 how much is the 4 going for? I haven't found any pricing anywhere
Phrozen Arco is $849 ($699 early bird pricing) without the panels - the multimaterial system aka the chroma kit is $299 (early bird $240). I think the panels are MSRP $170 early bird $120…there took me 2 minutes to find that info lol also where are the QIDI tech products?? How are you gonna add the orange storm giga but not the Q1 Pro?!
Phrozen updated after we filmed.
I forgot the q1 pro, but for me I'm ranking it around B-C at best. Mine isn't reliable and just stops printing. We don't know why yet.
I've actually spent a good deal of time thinking about my 3d printing wants and needs. Zero interest in resin printing so that's a start. Zero interest in multi colour printing so that minimizes the selection more. So I thought more about what do I honestly use my printers for and it is 99% functional/utilitarian stuff. I have multiple bed slingers already and they do what I need but I would like a high speed core XY. So that narrows down my options quite a bit. But then I thought about the other side of printing and took the printer out of the equation...slicers. I use Cura as I really do not like the layout/logic prusaslicer uses. But I gave orca slicer a serious try and I HATE it. So illogical on it's layout. Have to dig for too many options. Such a complete PITA to get setup and I still couldn't figure out where many of the common options I use in Cura are and I outright refuse to have to watch videos just to figure it out. I actually had to do a search to figure out how to change the filament settings. I don't want a preset profile for ANY filament. I want a base profile that I can adjust each setting for EVERY slice. This is dead simple in Cura but orca slicer seems to actively dissuade you from doing this.. Then I thought that if it is based on bambu slicer (or bambu is based on it) then this means ANYTHING bambu related is off the table. I do not care how functional the software is, if it is setup so poorly and illogically that it becomes actual effort to use then I will NOT use it. So it seems that of all the options out there the SV08 is the ONLY one I would even consider...in about a year once it's been out for a while and all the suckers, I mean first adopters, have chosen to pay to be beta testers.
Can you do a voron / ratrig style ranking? Would also be great if you can rank the latest IDEX printers. I'd like to build a ratrig but a bit intimidated by that process, so im considering a good IDEX voron style that's easier to setup
I would need more experience first, but sure.
Ranging a printer you've never seen and don't know the price of, as an A or B, well, that's suspicious
Did you listen to the intro? I clearly state this is based on the company specs and their history if we have not seen it yet. Some in here we have seen, and used, but not all.
out of curiosity when you visited prusa did you see their MJF machine? (assuming they had it at the time, it might be brand new). I have 2 nextruder parts included with my MMU3 (i'll print my own parts) kit. They were included because the nextruder main plate wears out too quickly. They MJF helps it (even PCCF wasn't good enough). They didn't say if it's a permanent fix if these are consumables. They also said many nextruder parts are not good enough and PCCF is required to help with that. So they included ALL the nextruder parts that have anything to do with the mmu3. The main plate is MJF and everything else is PCCF.
nope, we did not see an MJF printer while there.
@@3DMusketeers the mmu3 is done and printing well after a little calibration....sadly I didn't properly tighten the nozzle after reassembly and it got a case of nasty heat creep. The obxidean nozzle has filament up to the copper heartbreak. No idea how to fix it. So I'm back on the normal brass nozzle for now.
Talked to an Amazon Web Services developer and theres some printers that are strictly forbidden on their systems (cough: BL) what would be?
Funny how they forbid them at work but let them be clients lol
The Saturn 4 does not share the tilt vat with the Ultra.
The Flashfogfe AD5M Pro was regularly selling for about $400 on Amazon.
Nero's printer was a one-off on the idler gear pin issue; he even confirmed that on Twitter.
Given my bad experiences with the K1 Max, I'm hoping Creality gets the K2 right. What Sam told me at RMRRF has me even more hopeful.
The Comgrow T300 is interesting for not having a top crossbeam, but that price is a deal breaker.
I have faith Peopoly will get all the kinks worked out of the Magneto as well.
You know how I feel about Bambu, and we're on opposite ends of the spectrum on much of that; but I respect what you've said and done relative to them.
The AFS is the direction Prusa is heading, IMO. I see them moving away from the consumer market given all the strategic aquisitions/decisions over the last three years.
I was looking at phrozen3d yesterday $850 + $299 multicolor for the bambu clone. Im iffy on it. My printer is getting old. but i need 300x300 min.
Tier listing printers that aren't even out yet is something
Did you not pay attention to the first maybe 2 minutes of the video?!?
Bambu isn’t making a bigger printer, they announced that. The patents are posted on Reddit
I have insider info that states they are working on a larger printer. In fact that info was given to me so I would include them in this video lol.
Why are you ranking sla and fdm printers? And they're all so wildly different the giga shouldn't be up against a creality
It's printers that were released so far. Doesn't matter what brand or why. They aren't against each other.
bedsprings = auto F tier so orange storm = failed and since it's broken, it's actually an F-.
Even using 4 beds, there's no excuse not to rigid mount them on a pair of linear rails when you're dealing with this size and price.
@@Becvar80 why mount them on linear rails, the bed doesn't move.
@@Matt-bb3nr the beds actually expand and contract when heating and cooling. Mounting them on rails or ball joints helps alleviate warping of the bed
hmm $479 for the V3 +.....That's a little higher than I was expecting. It makes it a little harder to recommend for a beginner. Then again there is nothing this size that is cheaper and "just click print".
I for the life of me can't comprehend why you would waste your money on a bambu at this point. You have an XL 5 toolhead. That's a fantastic printer. You can't use bambu to its full extent because of ITAR. You hate the company because they are shady as hell. It seems like a no brainer to me. If you want to get a larger printer for shits and giggles, try the V3 +. I'll bet you you'll be surprised.
I don't need to say anything for this comment to Troll Grant. :P
He knows why. 💙
All Creality Ender V3 models (with Klipper) will get the CFS. This was in the Creality unveiling video
If it was only clear how many of those there will be LOL
@@3DMusketeers 10 years of selling printers will have model issues. Look at Dell, Apple(before the culling). Hell even voron!
About Ender 3 core-XZ: "It's like core-XY, but" _made wrong_ 😅
For a belt printer, yes, for a bed slinger, bare curiosity...
It's what the KE and SE should have been. Should have been also priced at 300$. It would have whiped the floor with the A1.
Very nicely done, I agree with your ranking, but given the shadiness of Bambulabs I would put them down a tier or maybe two.
I would too, but I am tired of the hate comments..
Ender 3 V3 Plus - $479 on the web site right now.
Ah, maybe that is new?
I clicked on your log file breakdown and RUclips decided not to redirect. Tried a second time and still nope
Weird.. will have to just search manually I guess?
@@3DMusketeers yeah I did, just feel like they are suppressing the video
@@3DMusketeers what is the best 3D printer for for polyamide and polycarbonate? I was looking at the X1C but can’t have data about my prints phoning home!
The V3 plus is an automatic A tier. You just have to keep in mind that Ender 3 and Ender V3 series is not the same thing. Not even close. It should really be called the Ender 4 line. The SE, KE, and Null are all fantastic printers. I've been recommending them like crazy and the number of issues I see in the groups have gone down mainly because people aren't pulling out their hair trying to level their printer or set the z-offset (it's why I refuse to recommend the sovols now). My personal favorite based on price and features (and only reviews since I don't have them), is the KE. I feel like the Null is over priced. But......There aren't any large scale V3 printers......until now. I've seen people that turned down their nose at the KE because it wasn't big enough only to get a crappy elegoo or something with the stupid bedsprings and I want to say every time, "don't come complaining when you can't level it".
I'm wondering if anyone is going to try to compete with the prusa MMU3 + mk4 combo. The claim is because of the way they develop the tips on the mk4, it leaves less filament behind. Therefore it requires less purge (about 30%) than normal. This is on top of the fact that the MMU tries to not cut the filament. Bambu always cuts the filament. Apparently bambu is now pushing for a slight retraction before cutting, but it means the mmu automatically wins assuming it performs. I've been heard everyone sing the praises of the MMU3. Even people that hated the MMU2. I'll know very soon. It's about 75% assembled. So when I see phrozen copying bambu my first question is are they trying to compete with the ams as a like for like or the prusa mmu?
I hope it delivers. I'm currently printing the parts.
@@drstefankrank Just during the assembly process, everything feels better. And I'm watching a video on the nextruder. It looks like it's self calibrating. That's freaking awesome.
No two trees sk1 in the list.
nope, it was not recommended when we asked on twitter or in our discord, so I did not even know about it until now lol
You must have inside info on Bambu lab bigger machine. Their official X page has nothing. Am I missing it?
I can also remember something like a new printer, "new flagship" printer as a reward for a makerworld contest or so. So either a second gen x1 or a bigger x1 or even a combination of a second generation and bigger than the x1. I personally dont think that there will be a straight up enlarged x1 due to how expensive the tooling of the x1 is. Steel stamping tools are amongst the most expensive tools available together with forging and injection molding tools, and the x1 needs several of those including a entirely new assembly line for the frame and motion system. Since the x1 is getting 2 years old, it would be time for an update, now with the competition catching up
@@kilianlindlbauer8277 thanks for the perspective. I don’t think about the tools involved. I’ve been holding off buying. Limping my current printer. Here is hoping one comes this year.
One of their reps reached out with some of the tweets teasing it. Nothing concrete, but technically it fit what we were asking for the list, so I tossed it in. As you can see, it's just an X1c photo lol.
I maaaayyyy know some things but I give it about a 2.87% that we get one for review lol.
I tried giving Anycubic my loyalty but their machines are so unreliable, I'm done. In short, my Kobra has needed all kinds of replacement parts through warranty and I'm just tired. And in terms of resin printers, I've had two and they both lost their touch after the first dozen prints and then eventually burnt out prematurely.
man sorry that has been happening for you!
@@3DMusketeers All good man! My BIQU is the ole reliable in terms of FDM, and then Elegoo completely changed how thought about resin printers -- just so much more reliable.
i Agree that the data collection is not good or right but my X1C is my first printer that run out of the box for 200h+ without me upgrading/tweaking/calibrating after every print.
But im hxped for the printers to come in 2024
is it worth the trade off? I say no. And given the investor to Bambu, IDG Capital was just named an Enemy of the State to the USA, I have a feeling I am not alone either. Not to say the govt always knows best though lol
@@3DMusketeers i Totally understand that but after i have seen the US Tictok hearing i dont know if the gov understands enough to make these desicions. my problem is i want a printer i put on my desk that just outputs print after print after print and the X1C is my first printer that does just that. if another company can do the sam for a reasonable price fine but the prusa XL is double the price with only one toolhead.
If BambuLab is the king, Stratasys is the God-Emperor of 3d printing
Bambu is farrrrr from the king lol
@@3DMusketeers , you said 31:56 : "Half the printers on this list, they all look like Bamboo. Because of that, the king has to sit at the top"
It was anecdotal here. I feel like my issues with Bambu are well documented at this point.
Kings of data collection of plastic toys. Happy that you succeeded in decrypting THEIR log.
we did, a while ago. or do you mean Stratasys?
FLSun S1 and T1 are the ones to watch.
definitely if they can make deltas relevant again that would be great
I have both the v3 and the original ender 3 got to say original ender 3 slow but pretty clean prints sucks having to relevel for every print. The v3 is fast very fast not x1c or k1c fast but fast none the less. My only grip is it seems the z level is just a slight bit too close to the bed. Also I have taken it to heart with bambu taking data I personally will never get one. Though I do not have a print farm or need a secure printer I do not want any more data then has to be out. To much data is already collected already with phones and stuff. I would consider buying one if it was unlocked and was not connected to the web and used usb instead.
Interesting. I have the v3 and yes it is often too close to the bed. And when i adjust the z offset in expert mode it doesn't remember the setting for some reason.
wheres that bambu video with logs and stuff?
Came out Valentine's day my dude.... ruclips.net/video/f-IjIs4YA-4/видео.html
@@3DMusketeers thank you so much , incredible work
2:36 no ratrig vcore4? No thanks, not wasting time with this one 😢
Guess I'm not allowed to miss things even when I put the list out on Twitter and in our discord.. guess you'll miss our interview with the rat rig team.
Most of those printers I don't care about. The V3 + is interesting. I'm also curious about the phrozen with the AMS.
really, why the v3+?
@@3DMusketeers it's cheapish and large. And it's based on the v3 tech which is easy to use. I've seen people insist on large printers and ended up with bed springs.
I would have appreciated if you continued to compare features and specs of the different printers but you kind of stopped doing that half way through. Hard to understand how you justify ranking them with the points you brought up. And its confusing when you move printers down a tier just because another printer was put in the same tier.
Thanks for the content though, heres my comment and like so the algorithm gods bless you!
Did I? Crap, sorry about that. I thought we gave some info about all of them. Some of them are out already so I don't think I went into as much info about those. Moving the printers around is because with different ones in different locations my thoughts change, if that makes sense as then printers get compared to one another.
yeah....The K1 has not been great. The Ender 3 V3 SE, V3 KE, V3 Null have all been fantastic. So my guess is anything based on V3 tech is fine. Anything based on K1 tech scares me. So I'm going to have to pre-rank the K2 down until I see what the reviews say.
Not a big fan of overlooking problems, even if other people would - I'd rank the Bambu a bit lower. Mostly agree with the rest of the list, though. Would LOVE if Creality opened up their RFID tech for others to use - PLEASE CREALITY! It would be so fantastic if there was an RFID standard for filaments, rather than everybody having their own proprietary spin.
I ranked them higher because I'm tired of the hate honestly. And their base will love the new printer regardless of what it has or does not have. Lol
wait so it costs $100 more because the vat tilts? Is that it?
nah, more tech in it which may or may not be useful to the users.
No Q1? Literally the best value printer to release all year? What list is this lol.
I forgot it.. I have had issues with mine, working with Qidi.. I am human, I made a mistake, but to be fair, NO ONE ELSE said to put it in there lol... We asked online and in our discord
Qidi?
totally forgot..
The tiers appear to contain some biases. But dont we all.
I mean, I clearly stated in the beginning they are ranked based on specs and company performance. Its why creality is lower than some others even though their specs are good. Their company has a rough track record.
No Ultimaker on the list
We missed a bunch :( even asking social media a bunch got missed. We will have to revisit.
You missed what could possibly be THE BEST printer that came out this year....QiDi Q1 Pro. Its cutting edge and at the $400 price point omg a huge value
I did miss it but mine is problematic currently
@@3DMusketeers Really? Wow all ive seen from other reviewers is positive reviews. Can you do a video? Id like to know more about its issues. I was considering getting one
I am still trying to narrow down the issue. I have to put in a new support request soon. We thought it was the SD card, but nope, new card, new sliced data, same issue. I am now going on it's overheating, but cannot confirm.
@@3DMusketeers Sounds like you have my luck with 3D printers lol
Sometimes lolol
26:55 - Nice to see they remembered to wear gloves because "RESIN IS TOXIC!"
yes!
Put untested printers on a tierlist?!?!
It's like we said that RIGHT in the beginning. It's based on machine promises, company past performances, and basic guessing.
QIDI 5M easily the best value printer.
I do agree at this time
He said "I don't think the base Saturn 4 has the tilt feature". Annnd I am out. Honestly dude, you cant make a tier list on a bunch of printers you didn't research. You lost me big dog, I wont be back...
Huh, last I checked this wasn't an airport. No need to announce your departure.
And for the record, it's not abundantly clear in elegoo's marketing. So.. yeah..
I’ll take a old saturan
I have an Anycubic resin printer I would trade for that is unused if you are local to tampa
"the stream is gone it was 8 hours"
*my mind in the gutter
If your stream last longer than 8 hours you might want to see a doctor. LMAO
I’m very distant from the level of business etc.. but I cannot justify 100grands for a 3d array in a school. Maybe it’s just me but.. no..
I think that by “schools” they mean “engineering/material engineering schools” a.k.a universities with big labs rather than the average high school.
My uní spent over 100 on a metal sls printer that no one is allowed to use because the argon and acetylene are too expensive to run.
So looks like Bambu labs 3D printer is the only turnkey solution out there
Completely disagree. Plenty of others out there.
micronics sls printer
How I stupidly left this out I have no damn clue... But everyone, including me, missed adding it to the list.. that one is more in depth though.
I used to not mind your channel, but you’ve just become a Bambu basher, I even agree with your issues with them, but that’s all we hear about from you, same old same, your printer teir list makes no sense, your comparing printers that aren’t even related. Disgrace
Cool. Thanks for watching ;)
I'm not bashing. I could say much worse... But whatever man. Enjoy
Creality hater.
Nah, it's just history
A history of... 😂 I love my Creality printers.
Printers catching fire, bad security, model theft, blatant IP theft, accused IP theft currently in litigation, etc.
hi 3DMuskateers, have you become a flat earther yet? If not I suggest viewing the 13 part series _what on earth happened_ in my about to learn how the earth is not a globe
Hi there. I recommend you learn how to spell our name first ;)
@@3DMusketeers okay. my bad.
BTW 3DMusketeers, have you become a flat earther yet? If not I suggest viewing the 13 part series what on earth happened in my about to learn how the earth is not a globe
You're right. It's not a globe. It's more oblong and has a bit of a wobble.
@@3DMusketeers what is your best globe (or oblong globe) earth evidence?
No one has a SV08…..and you…..oh god…..🤢🤮
What? They definitely do..
What? They definitely do..
Everything literally garbage when compared to Bambu.
Agree to disagree. But I've used industrial printers that stomp anything that filament can make..
A cultist in every comment section... LOL
Yep. That's life.
@@chrismay2298 Not loyal to any brand, have printers from at least 5 on hand. It's simply the truth
it is not. It may be the truth for what you are aware of in the industry, or even in FDM on its own, but it is not the truth as a whole.