Aviation Disaster Zone: The Mysterious Aircrash Hotspot | Aircrash Confidential Ep 5

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  • Опубликовано: 16 май 2024
  • Over 2,000 planes have crashed in the aviation triangle between Las Vegas, Reno, and Fresno - a shocking number that surpasses the aircrash statistics of the Bermuda Triangle by one hundred times.
    In 2007 Steve Fossett, world renowned pilot and multi-millionaire, takes off for a Sunday morning aviation flight. But he disappears without a trace. The largest ever aviation aircrash search and rescue mission in peacetime US history is launched. It fails to find Fossett’s aviation plane, but it uncovers a chilling mystery. A year after the search is called off, the missing aviation plane is found by a hiker, crashed high in the Sierra Nevada Mountains. As investigators analyse Steve Fossett’s aviation aircrash, they build a picture of an invisible deadly killer that forced his aviation plane out of the sky. And looking through back the case files, it’s not the first time such aviation aircrash has happened. Could this deadly phenomenon be the culprit behind the Nevada Triangle?
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  • @lizaprotas9960
    @lizaprotas9960 Год назад +8

    A cool combination of "Mayday: Air Crash Investigations" and "I Shouldn't Be Alive". Like it a lot.

  • @michaelgranger7113
    @michaelgranger7113 Год назад +66

    It's pretty shameful that it took the disappearance of a celebrity pilot to discover those other missing planes. I'm guessing Fosset wandered off and then got dragged away by a cougar. I got my pilot license in 1977, and I clearly remember the training manual going over the concept of wave-form winds over mountainous areas, and that a pilot should maintain a minimum of 1000 feet margin above the tallest part of the terrain.

    • @Brpwndood
      @Brpwndood Год назад +4

      So this is a pretty well-known phenomenon I studied it as a kid in high school and the 1000 ft margin makes sense for the quick fix. But how Steve Fosset succumbed to it is the mysterious part

    • @johnmcleodvii
      @johnmcleodvii Год назад +5

      Based on the wreckage of Fosset's plane, there is no way he wandered anywhere. The movement of the wallet has to be purely done by animals.

    • @maxinefreeman8858
      @maxinefreeman8858 7 месяцев назад +1

      I doubt he wandered off. An animal might have pulled his body away. They did find some remains were the wallet was found. I knew a girl that her body laid on the mountain for eleven days. Animals had got to her. She had a hand missing and they couldn't find her hand or the bracelet on her wrist.

  • @rogerkearns8094
    @rogerkearns8094 Год назад +28

    What baffles me is that at least eight planes had crashed but nobody seems to have known.

  • @shirleybrooks1599
    @shirleybrooks1599 Год назад +119

    Good video about the Nevada triangle and the number of planes that have crashed in the area. One of my older sister’s friends and her fiancée crashed their plane there years ago in the 1950s flying from California to New Mexico in his private plane for their wedding. The plane wreckage was found over 20 years later with both of them still buckled in their seats. Back then they probably weren’t aware of the dangers of flying over that area of the Sierra Nevada Mountains.

    • @circusshizshow
      @circusshizshow Год назад +8

      We could make a triangle anywhere, look into all the GA (general aviation) crashes and the various causes behind them. Now, not to say there aren't certain areas on earth where you can just disappear, even on foot- but that is a different story.

    • @lazurm
      @lazurm Год назад +10

      @@circusshizshow Anywhere? Okay, let's have a go.
      Compare, for instance, a random, similarly sized, area in central Ohio, a state known for its flat terrain. Do you think that the Ohio random triangle has, proportionately, as many air crashes? Or any with the same explanation?

    • @circusshizshow
      @circusshizshow Год назад +2

      @@lazurm Let's not. 🤣

    • @rollotomasislawyer3405
      @rollotomasislawyer3405 Год назад +3

      That definitely was “years ago” all right.

    • @bobb.6393
      @bobb.6393 Год назад +8

      Hiking in the Sierra Nevada mountains there is a phenomenon of an avalanche of sinking freezing air. The mountains are steep enhancing the effect. That is an extremely dangerous mountain range.

  • @jamesstreet228
    @jamesstreet228 Год назад +42

    Imagine surviving a plane crash, walking down off the mountain and people look at you like you're a lunatic and think you're a drugged out zombie.

    • @robertschumann7737
      @robertschumann7737 6 месяцев назад +3

      Yeah whenever I see a story like this I remember the story of the survivor of the Lynard Skynard plane crash. After the crash he went walking to get help. When he finally found a farmhouse and was heading to the door the farmer shot him. I can't think of a day getting much worse than that and surviving!

    • @rambergkatherine
      @rambergkatherine 2 месяца назад

      LAUGHIN 😅😅😅

  • @believer4445
    @believer4445 Год назад +27

    So many planes missing, it took a celebrity for them to be found. Scary

    • @carlosbent5046
      @carlosbent5046 Год назад +3

      If it wasn't for a celebrity never be found...wow 😲 just goes to show!how sad 😭 is that

    • @canineatnight6026
      @canineatnight6026 9 месяцев назад +1

      felt like the real world.
      No one care about a design flaw in planes from poorer countries until a plane from a rich country crash then they open their eyes

  • @flashgordon3715
    @flashgordon3715 Год назад +72

    This phenomenon of wind coming over a ridge and diving back down is well known.
    Steve Fosset, especially knew of this phenomenon, he used it, the top of the wave not under the wave, to attain really high altitudes in a gliders.

    • @awuma
      @awuma Год назад +3

      The "diving back down" can be a rotor.

    • @RBMapleLeaf
      @RBMapleLeaf Год назад +9

      @@awuma Yeah in certain cases alongside mountain waves below them are extreme turbulent air called rotors. It's a phenomenon called clear air turbulence. Look up BOAC 911 in 1966 and that was the cause of that crash. In fact let me say this. 1966 in Japan was horrific. ANA Flight 60 and 533, Canadian Pacific 402, BOAC 911 and a Japan Air Lines Convair 880 (Flight number not known) all crashed throughout 1966 in Japan.

    • @Amehdion
      @Amehdion Год назад +5

      Doesn't really matter how much you know, or how good of a pilot you are if the downdraft is greater than your aircraft's climb speed. Even veteran pilots with thousands of hours can be caught off guard, and once you realize what is happening it can be too late to maneuver out of it.

    • @flashgordon3715
      @flashgordon3715 Год назад +4

      @Amehdion it seems like other comments feel this is a brand new discovery.
      Perlan 2 was spearheaded by Fosset and test pilot Einar Enevoldsont and flew to 51 thousand ft using mountain waves

    • @user-rv1wf6sd4p
      @user-rv1wf6sd4p Год назад +3

      Ye,theres a " phenomenon" of car crashes as well..

  • @Glen.Danielsen
    @Glen.Danielsen Год назад +10

    Absolutely outstanding documentary. Fascinating topic.

  • @pi.actual
    @pi.actual Год назад +27

    Okay but the idea that nobody had any clue about the hazards of flying over the southern Sierra or the Owens Valley until the Fossett crash is ridiculous. This has been common knowledge since the dawn of the air age. Look at the air navigation maps, there are no charted low altitude routes across that area. There are no Victor Airways crossing the Sierra south of Mammoth or north of Tehachapi.

  • @williamthompson2941
    @williamthompson2941 Год назад +34

    Once flew across and through the range on a Lear Jet - LAX to Reno. My very experienced pilot made it an incredible experience i will never forget; and it is also why i could see prop plane pilots being tempted to fly lower down between the peaks in daylight, and how easy it is to fly too low at night; and that's without weather complications

  • @brendanwood1540
    @brendanwood1540 Год назад +15

    I had an experienced pilot try to tell me that our Cessna couldn't have dropped 300 feet in clear air turbulence because he claimed air pockets don't exist. Since he had never encountered turbulence like that in 30 years. Yet I tried to tell him that there are localized air currents with severe down drafts in some areas. Apparently the Nevada triangle is just like the Alps coming in from the Mediterranean sea. There was a similar but smaller downdraft at our local airport as we were coming in to land on the airport hill from the lake with a cross wind. Luckily for us we were not at high altitude in mountains. Because we dropped 300 feet and my instructor seemed surprised.

  • @sandygrogg1203
    @sandygrogg1203 Год назад +11

    I always love to hear John Cox’s voice. He has so,much knowledge.. ❤

  • @jamescrane1987
    @jamescrane1987 Год назад +16

    Having flown dc3s over the "hump" from India to Burma in 1939 for avg ( flying tigers) we had a lot of problems with carb icing and some icing wings leading edge deicing boots couldn't always reach the ice to break it away...maybe right the ice took it down...
    Last tiger
    ... of avg (all volunteer guard)...
    Many flights "over the hump" and "falling off the mountain"..
    Lotta crashed 3s in those Himalayas...
    Rip guys...loved flying with you...

    • @indiegun
      @indiegun Год назад +3

      So you're well over a hundred years old and flew for the AVG two years before they were formed in a DC-3 (and not a C-47) well before support cargo flights over the Himalayas and even before the Tigers or CATF operations began?
      By the way, AVG stands for American Volunteer Group and NOT 'all volunteer guard'.

    • @cruisepaige
      @cruisepaige Год назад +1

      1987. You are sad.

  • @vernkingsford5329
    @vernkingsford5329 Год назад +10

    As a very high time pilot. Having a headwind DOES NOT EFFECT AIRSPEED INDICATION. CHECK YOUR FACTS. IT AFFECTS GROUND SPEED. ALSO I FLEW OVER 2000 HOURS IN THAT AREA

    • @andrejszasz2816
      @andrejszasz2816 Год назад +1

      I was searching for this comment to like it.

    • @guardrailbiter
      @guardrailbiter Год назад

      You know far too much about aviation to be watching a trashy, sensational show such as this.

    • @bobb.6393
      @bobb.6393 Год назад

      It’s random good luck

  • @campkohler9131
    @campkohler9131 Год назад +37

    The many references to a headwind effecting the airspeed is wrong. No matter how fast or slow the wind is, the airplane is simply inside it, flying through it at a speed provided by the engines, and so the airspeed indicators will report that. The wind only alters the ground speed, so it changes where the pilots think they are, not how the airplane is flying. Thus the airplane was (unless it encountered storm forces like turbulence or excessive icing) ok, and could have continued on to complete the flight if they had sufficient altitude to clear all terrain. The writers should know this.

    • @halfrhovsquared
      @halfrhovsquared Год назад +17

      Yes. This bugged me, too. It does not cause errant airspeed readings. The airspeed readings are correct although they now diverge significantly from groundspeed.

    • @Airpaycheck
      @Airpaycheck Год назад +12

      Although dramatic, shows like this have little interest in facts or accuracy.

    • @jfryer485
      @jfryer485 Год назад +2

      Not sure you are correct. Strong winds will not be smooth and constant.
      If you think of water. If it is still and calm there is no problem. If rapids then the speed may be constant but you have to get into the rapids and out of them and this can be tricky. Also when in the rapids the decisions have to be made more rapidly. And at sea rough seas can cause huge forces to act on people or boats.
      The winds can be the same and even mild conditions can make it hazardous.
      The notion of gliders and hot air balloons being part of the wind and appearing placid is in just good weather conditions only.

    • @fliegendeschuhe5614
      @fliegendeschuhe5614 Год назад +4

      @@jfryer485 strong winds can be smooth and constant, it's all about the type of flow that the fluid is experiencing. In the case of water, there is a critical speed for every waterway. When the water speed exceeds the critical speed, the flow of water changes from a smooth laminar flow to a turbulent flow. Same case with air. There are jet streams with up to 100 knots of wind, but the airflow can still be smooth

    • @ThirtytwoJ
      @ThirtytwoJ Год назад

      Cyclone

  • @MyzelleJenkins
    @MyzelleJenkins Год назад +19

    Thank You! Excellent series…hoping you’ll have all 3 full seasons here!

  • @Capt.Turner
    @Capt.Turner Год назад +25

    Outstanding episode with a very measured and decent approach to the subject and the people involved.
    May all the the people who have perished rest in peace and may the Lady portrayed as the sole survivor have found a way to deal with the tragedy and lead a happy life ever after.
    Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all of you.

  • @handyjayes1
    @handyjayes1 Год назад +4

    A brilliantly composed video of these horrific scenarios. Thank you.

  • @usmale49
    @usmale49 Год назад +8

    Very good video. Not only interesting, but also informative. The Gambler's Special is the one that really got me in the heart! Excellent narration, too! Thank you for creating, uploading and sharing!
    I also just subscribed (12-29-2022)! Thanks again!! Great channel!

  • @boss2234
    @boss2234 Год назад +10

    Always have a flight plan. Even if it’s just a note in hanger.

  • @AmanChowdhury888
    @AmanChowdhury888 9 месяцев назад +2

    There's a reason the Himalayan mountain ranges are off limits to commercial aviation. The large areas of mountainous terrain are a death trap for any aircraft that may encounter problems and may need to come to lower oxygen environments or even requiring to land. Theres a lack of areas to come down to. Maybe the Sierra Nevada range needs to be assessed for these or other specifically relevant conditions and new no-fly-zone policies need to be adopted for certain areas.

  • @patriciaramsey5294
    @patriciaramsey5294 Год назад +4

    I am enjoying this channel alot. Thank you. You are informative, interesting and entertaining.

  • @rochelleesser7961
    @rochelleesser7961 7 месяцев назад +3

    It’s an absolute miracle that that lady survived and made it to get help, not to mention giving witness to what happened to the plane!
    A lingering question though could definitely add me to the “You know you’re a photographer when…..” statement…..
    I couldn’t help but wonder if her camera and the photos she went there to capture survived too; I really hope they did…..🤔
    However I’m seriously questioning my priorities as a human being at this point though 💯🤦🏻‍♀️

  • @NorwayT
    @NorwayT Год назад +22

    It's so weird, because the Narrator sounds a lot like Actor, Sir Anthony Hopkins. And watching this gave me a flash back to one of his role, when he survives an Alpine Plane Crash in the Magnificent Movie 'The Edge' (1997).
    Great Series! Thanks for sharing! 👍

    • @Frankie2012channel
      @Frankie2012channel Год назад +7

      I too thought it was Anthony Hopkins. Hopkins has narrated so many television documentary series in his career. But I looked it up and it's British actor "Colin Tierney". Wow. this guy really sounds like Sir Anthony Hopkins!

    • @MrAnthonyfrench
      @MrAnthonyfrench Год назад +3

      i had exactly the same thought process. haha

    • @serialshagster6651
      @serialshagster6651 Год назад +1

      Crazy synchronicity! I just saw that movie in my feed for free movies on RUclips...lol...maybe an hour ago

    • @NorwayT
      @NorwayT Год назад

      @@Frankie2012channel Yeah, I had to look him up too. Remarkable likeness in voice.

  • @nicola4894
    @nicola4894 Год назад +9

    Weird how all of these experts never guessed it was down or up draughts. I did after just a couple of minutes.. with the differing temperatures..it seems kind of obvious.

  • @Trainwreck_Art
    @Trainwreck_Art Год назад +5

    Mountain waves and microbursts are like the black ice of aviation. you can be the best, most experienced, most cautious pilot in the world, and deal with it a hundred or a thousand times with no problems, but it's only got to catch you off guard ONCE and you're done.

  • @paulbrouyere1735
    @paulbrouyere1735 Год назад +13

    These downdrafts in mountains are well known, but sometimes they occur over flat terrain. I experienced it as an RC pilot. Nothing you can do, the plane smacked to the ground. Windspeed was about 5 Beaufort

    • @kentpaynter1350
      @kentpaynter1350 Год назад +1

      RC pilot. haha

    • @paulbrouyere1735
      @paulbrouyere1735 Год назад +5

      @@kentpaynter1350 Try and pilot an RC plane first before such stupid comment

    • @paulbrouyere1735
      @paulbrouyere1735 Год назад +3

      @@kentpaynter1350 So you believe unmanned planes don’t need a pilot? Grow up

    • @kentpaynter1350
      @kentpaynter1350 Год назад +1

      @@paulbrouyere1735 Drones are small, unmanned aircraft built using sophisticated technology, unlike RC planes which are remotely piloted, small aircraft made from flimsy materials like foam. Big difference between unmanned aircraft and RC toys.
      If you think you're a pilot if you fly RC then I continue to laugh.

  • @RobertHosein
    @RobertHosein Год назад +3

    Interesting documentary. Keep it up!

  • @alisoncleeton877
    @alisoncleeton877 Год назад +3

    Blimey that man in blue sure got emotional over Lauren's story!
    😲😔💗

  • @pikachu6031
    @pikachu6031 Год назад +12

    The DC-3 was actually manufactured by Douglas Aircraft Company. Not McDonnell Douglas! The merger between Douglas Aircraft Company and McDonnell Aircraft Corporation didn’t happen until decades later, in 1967. That’s why the Douglas DC-3’s nickname is The DAC. (Douglas Aircraft Company)!!

    • @rossflynn4428
      @rossflynn4428 Год назад +5

      It’s called a Dac, because the Brits named their RAF C47 versions Douglas Dakotas...

    • @pikachu6031
      @pikachu6031 Год назад

      @@rossflynn4428 Yes that’s true, but it also stands for the “Douglas Aircraft Company”

    • @RBMapleLeaf
      @RBMapleLeaf Год назад +1

      Essentially. All aircraft up until the DC-9 were made by the Douglas Aircraft Company. The DC-10 doesn’t count because, if I am correct this is when McDonnell Douglas was formed or not long after the production of the DC-10. If I am correct the only known planes from MD were the MD-11, MD-80 and 90. Technically the MD-10 on operators like FedEx were done by Boeing. So they don’t count. It’s basically a revamped DC-10 into a MD-11 in a way. (Without the FE panel ofc)

    • @royfearn4345
      @royfearn4345 Год назад +1

      Also short for Dakota, their popular name. Here in the UK they were always spelt Dak, not Dac. We had a fleet of eight C47s along with several other civil aircraft types.

    • @pikachu6031
      @pikachu6031 Год назад +1

      @@RBMapleLeaf Thank you for your reply Buddy. Some interesting facts there. Just one you may have forgotten about, as I had. The MD-87. I went for an interview with Ford Air at London Stansted many years ago. Ford’s own Airline operating the G-1, BAC1-11 and the MD-87. You got a brand new company car thrown in, changed every 10.000 miles. I didn’t get it unfortunately. The position was as a First Officer on the MD-87, despite already having more than 3000 hours on the Boeing 737-300/400 and 500!

  • @madhurajr4454
    @madhurajr4454 Год назад +2

    Production team needs a special mention here. Best one till now

  • @randomz4543
    @randomz4543 Год назад +4

    😍😍😍😍thanks for the upload😍😍😍 have something good to watch 2nyt

  • @user-rv1wf6sd4p
    @user-rv1wf6sd4p Год назад +3

    Pilots are Heros I think..taking responsibility for so many people,is well,...wow!my hats off to them!.thank you❤❤❤❤

  • @aliam5865
    @aliam5865 3 месяца назад

    Great info.
    Make an episode about the Bermuda triangle as well🙏

  • @beercommercial1
    @beercommercial1 Год назад +4

    Okay people, it really yanks my chain when producers get the wrong planes in the shot. For example, @19:31 the B-1 Lancer with tail number 40158 (with an F-111 in the foreground). The B-1 performed it's first flight on 23 December 1974, and is shown as an aircraft searching for the "gambler's special" lost in 1969. You don't use a supersonic bomber as a search aircraft, especially when it hasn't been built yet.

    • @lornespry
      @lornespry Год назад

      It annoys me too. In this production it almost led me to stop watching. When you see such garbage, you begin to suspect the rest of the reporting as being bogus.

  • @wynottgivemore9274
    @wynottgivemore9274 Год назад +3

    Larin was amazingly blessed she survived the hotel owner...

  • @jameswebb4593
    @jameswebb4593 Год назад +4

    At least five years ago I posted an article about the perils of private aircraft flying . Quoting the hundreds of deaths in Nevada. Like pissing into a dale.

    • @jameswebb4593
      @jameswebb4593 Год назад +3

      Gale not dale , mind you the result may have been the same.

  • @rolfsinkgraven
    @rolfsinkgraven Год назад +7

    Great video, very dangerous place too fly.

    • @circusshizshow
      @circusshizshow Год назад +1

      Despite your bad spelling, you are basically right.

  • @bethoughtprovoking
    @bethoughtprovoking Год назад +3

    I see that many other commenters are aware that katabatic winds are no mystery; mankind has known about them for millennia. But what is criminal in my mind is that so many airplane crashes went underreported, and, as a result, pilots were not forewarned of the inherent danger of the area. As warm, moist wind is pushed up a mountain range, pressure changes owing to altitude occur naturally; the same applies when that air descends. Turbulence and extreme fluctuations between pressure systems are to be expected. The science is not new.

  • @LabzAli
    @LabzAli Год назад +1

    Great documentary.

  • @jacobgill4808
    @jacobgill4808 Год назад +2

    Note to self....f the mountains

  • @jenbill
    @jenbill Год назад +6

    It’s a stretch calling it a mystery why so many planes crashed in that area, I’m not even a pilot and know exactly why, I live close to the Diablo Mt Range west side of the Central Valley that lie directly across from the Sierra’s and the winds that come off Diablo mountains through the pass into the valley can be insane, hard enough driving a car through it a little plane getting caught up in that turbulence and down drafts has almost no chance

    • @basicdesign1
      @basicdesign1 Год назад

      Aahh, but well-known scientific truth: local people's knowledge doesn't count, o course. The reverse side of so-called human greatness, that no-one wants to acknowledge coz it's too flimsy to withstand being looked at.

  • @nickv4073
    @nickv4073 Год назад +92

    So what is the mystery? Who doesn't know flying over mountains is dangerous?

    • @peregrinemccauley5010
      @peregrinemccauley5010 Год назад +16

      Umm , hundreds of American aviators , including Steve Fossett, who has circumnavigated the planet in a balloon , amongst other world record breaking feats . Maybe you should set up a flying school nearby and show 'em how it's done .

    • @garystewart3110
      @garystewart3110 Год назад +6

      @@peregrinemccauley5010 there are plenty of flying schools nearby already. I'm a student pilot and I know about mountain flying.

    • @cturdo
      @cturdo Год назад +4

      DRAMA!

    • @Surannhealz
      @Surannhealz Год назад +2

      Just the people that can’t see air currents 😁

    • @WRLO56
      @WRLO56 Год назад +10

      Saying "this is dangerous" isn't particularly helpful. Knowing what the danger is is what's important. Someone had to figure out that mountain waves were this dangerous. I remember being taught about it in the 70s , though.

  • @timmotion6494
    @timmotion6494 Год назад +3

    This is a basic rule in ballooning as well: even the over-wind over a line of trees is a danger zone.

  • @candismith4779
    @candismith4779 Год назад +2

    The Recovery Team ACTS quickly.
    Doh

  • @leeadams5941
    @leeadams5941 Год назад +2

    That Steve guy in the blue shirt is a drama queen for sure, the Sierra wave has been studied since the 1950s and is a well-known phenomenon

  • @johnnyllooddte3415
    @johnnyllooddte3415 Год назад +1

    we ran intl airlies for decades out of san fran to las vegas.. i had never heard of the nevada triangle before..
    thanks..
    doc johnny

    • @johnstuartsmith
      @johnstuartsmith Год назад +1

      International airlines have pilots, aircraft, and procedures that keep them from generating the kind of crash statistics that inspired this RUclips episode. They fly over the "Nevada Triangle" at 30-something thousand feet.

  • @brightspark4817
    @brightspark4817 Год назад +4

    on a down draught if u have the height and clearance you have to dive down and pick up speed to overcome it and fly out before hitting the ground .had it happen on my hanglider once and got away with it. a friend of mine didnt..basical;y its stalled

  • @deansmith4549
    @deansmith4549 Год назад +6

    There's old pilot's and Bold pilot's
    But
    There's no Old, Bold pilot's...
    R. I. P. to all who perished on the "Gambler special" flight AND to those that died trying to locate their wreckage...🙏 ✝️

  • @johnstuartsmith
    @johnstuartsmith Год назад +3

    General aviation has far higher accident rates than commercial and military aviation. The U.S. has the most general aviation and California has the most pilots. Some pilots, many of whom are low-time hobbyists, regularly push their luck regarding their aircraft, their abilities, and the predictability of mountain weather. There's nothing mysterious or supernatural about the results.

  • @samshepperrd
    @samshepperrd Год назад +2

    26:51 False airspeed reading due to headwind is not a problem now that we have GPS.
    44:30. I've seen this "mountain wave" occuring over the Sierra crest from the eastern side - Owens Valley. Clouds from the west rising up and curling back 180 degrees like an ocean wave hitting another wave head on.

    • @aeomaster32
      @aeomaster32 Год назад

      Winds don't affect airspeed (except with temporary fluctuations where winds fluctuate), they affect ground speed. A balloon in a steady wind has on airspseed.

    • @samshepperrd
      @samshepperrd Год назад

      @@aeomaster32 Airspeed is read by the pilot of an airplane by measuring the flow of air through a pitot tube. Id doesn't matter if the air is forced through the tube by the airplane moving forward or a fan flowing air into the tube. A tailwind will reduce the instrument air speed. because there is less air resistance going forward.

  • @arch00721
    @arch00721 Год назад +12

    Why not use autonomous and unpiloted drones be sent out in that region, programmed to search in a predefined sea ch pattern. The drones could have programmed into the memory banks of all types of aircraft, with all possible ways they could be mangled in a crash. That way, it can map out the scattered pieces and virtually put the plane back together, based on the materials it's constructed with.

    • @LathropLdST
      @LathropLdST Год назад +1

      Money, or perhaps what you say is not feasible.

    • @arch00721
      @arch00721 Год назад

      @Lathrop L. d S T perhaps there aught to be some kind of weather forecasting system that can easily be integrated to small planes, that can help the people avoid treading in that dangerous area. Some kind of an invisible geofense, that sends out an alarm to the pilots, indicating that they are in danger of stepping over an unstable region, and diverts the aircraft away from that invisible fence.

    • @rogerramjet6429
      @rogerramjet6429 Год назад +3

      @@arch00721 are you just trolling or seriously got that little idea about weather radar and TCAS on planes.
      First comment you're talking about stuff that's not possible.
      Next comment you're suggesting equipment that already exists.
      Seriously, get a clue.

    • @arch00721
      @arch00721 Год назад +2

      I am sorry. I'm not trolling for one, and my sincere apologies for babbling on about a current existing technology.

    • @jamie.777
      @jamie.777 Год назад

      Drones didn't exist in the 90s. U a$$hole

  • @johnjephcote7636
    @johnjephcote7636 Год назад +2

    The Beauvais ridge in Northern france was notorious for downdraughts. Sir Sefton Brancker, Minister for Civil Aviation (later killed in the R101 airship crash nearby) had experienced a sudden drop in his biplane airliner, resulting in the passengers denting the cabin roofs.

  • @jean-pierredeclemy7032
    @jean-pierredeclemy7032 Год назад +9

    Was Fossett's plane British registered G- or did the production team use whatever footage they could easily find? There were also British planes in the background of another clip.

    • @halfrhovsquared
      @halfrhovsquared Год назад +8

      It looks like all of their reconstructions used G-reg planes and they also used stock footage from the USA.
      I suspect that this is a British TV production.

    • @AreeyaKKC
      @AreeyaKKC Год назад +3

      Yup so many British aircraft flying in the US 😆

  • @apropos4701
    @apropos4701 Год назад +3

    6,000 plus shipwrecks and 30,000 plus dead sailors for the Great Lakes. Can we make this into a triangle? Can we invent a name for the triangle?

  • @phillarnach9484
    @phillarnach9484 Год назад +5

    "Greatest living aviator", geez, get a grip.

    • @awuma
      @awuma Год назад +3

      Eric "Winkle" Brown was still alive... and Bob Hoover.

  • @AwesomeAngryBiker
    @AwesomeAngryBiker Год назад +6

    The re-enactments are absolutely dreadfully atrocious

    • @halfrhovsquared
      @halfrhovsquared Год назад +2

      So atrocious that they filmed them in the UK with British registered aircraft!!!

    • @AwesomeAngryBiker
      @AwesomeAngryBiker Год назад +2

      @@halfrhovsquared i may watch back nd have a look for the G reg so😁😁

    • @halfrhovsquared
      @halfrhovsquared Год назад +3

      @@AwesomeAngryBiker - Pretty much every time you see aircraft (on the ground) as part of the story-telling (and not just some B-Roll footage dropped in as a cutaway), you'll see they are all G-reg. Even the clip in the hangar with the two girls getting excited about going flying, it's full of G-reg aircraft. The guy who is the main subject of the episode, right at the beginning, you see him preflighting a G-reg.

    • @AwesomeAngryBiker
      @AwesomeAngryBiker Год назад +2

      @@halfrhovsquared ok Ive absolutely no clue how I missed that, thats it, im watching it again as soon as this update on the pc is done

    • @halfrhovsquared
      @halfrhovsquared Год назад +4

      @@AwesomeAngryBiker - If you watch the whole thing again, listen for the BS where the narrator says that a headwind causes errant airspeed readings. This documentary is dreadful.
      (By the way, there is an N-reg in the hangar where the girls are getting excited and taking photos, but it's not the one they are flying and every other number you see, including on the Robinsons in the background and on the one in which they are due to go flying is G.)

  • @planck39
    @planck39 Год назад +4

    Gambling with an Airplane too.

  • @adielstephenson2929
    @adielstephenson2929 Год назад +1

    Lauren Elder's story is epic.

  • @DecepticonVibez
    @DecepticonVibez 8 месяцев назад +1

    The worlds greatest aviator but didn’t take into account the downdrafts in the mountains which were established decades earlier.

  • @animehuntress9018
    @animehuntress9018 Год назад

    28:15 I saw that look on my grandfathers face a few times. He's furious and disappointed. I remember that look after an incident with a downed plane on the news after it was revealed the crash had been a stall, and another time when an accident report came out that had vindicated his colleagues.

  • @candismith4779
    @candismith4779 Год назад +6

    Me and a few friends ...
    A FEW FRIENDS AND I ...
    God help us!

    • @halfrhovsquared
      @halfrhovsquared Год назад

      It depends upon whether or not we are the subject or object of the sentence.
      A few friends and I went on a plane.
      The plane took a few friends and me to our destination.
      The way to determine which is which is to remove the "few friends" from the sentence.
      I went on an aircraft.
      The plane took me to my destination.

    • @proudgrandma138
      @proudgrandma138 Год назад

      Yah and instead of saying more tired, more drunk, etc they always say drunker, tireder, etc. Bugs me. Grammar doesnt exist anymore.

  • @RonaldWall-yw3hx
    @RonaldWall-yw3hx 8 месяцев назад +1

    We sent out the National Guard when he was just ten minutes late.
    The rest have to be missing days.

  • @slagarcrue85
    @slagarcrue85 Год назад +7

    You got have some major big balls to fly through mountain ranges. I admire there bravery the way they executed it not so much at times.

    • @jamie.777
      @jamie.777 Год назад

      I call it stooooopid

  • @wisconsinsucks2670
    @wisconsinsucks2670 Год назад +3

    The real mystery is why did this dude carry thousands of dollars around at a time.

    • @jamie.777
      @jamie.777 Год назад

      Prostitutes and cocaine

  • @noneofyourbizness
    @noneofyourbizness Год назад +2

    needs editing down to around 7 mins

  • @Yourbrochibuikem
    @Yourbrochibuikem Год назад +1

    its only safer to nose back up than down, when u feel danger flyin a plane
    its better to do a go around than touch down when u dont feel like it

  • @GeoCalifornian
    @GeoCalifornian Год назад +4

    Fossett was an irresponsible pilot; clearly. He did not abide by the fundamental rule to file a flight plan, so he stayed undiscovered for a very long time.
    /Complacency often kills...

  • @o0o-jd-o0o95
    @o0o-jd-o0o95 Год назад +6

    I live in Bishop... my friend's uncle has a cabin up in aspendell. I've stayed up there quite a few times. Charles Manson stole a wood stove out of that cabin back during the time that this documentary mentioned him being around here and terrorizing the area. Prior to us staying there a few times I had no idea that this had happened up there at the cabin. Now I have a stupid coincidence to mention. that being that Charles Manson was born in Cincinnati OH... i too was born in Cincinnati OH back in 1976 I just found it interesting that here I was in this cabin that Charles Manson once visited and took some stuff from. Our connection being that we are both from a state and city very very very far away from this spot here in aspendale

    • @2msvalkyrie529
      @2msvalkyrie529 Год назад

      Hmm ....how many people have you murdered ?

  • @planck39
    @planck39 Год назад +5

    Never (!!!!!!!) enter a valley Before (!!!!!) you have reached the altitude of your overpass + 500ft. Piston Engine Planes have disappointing climbing performance at high altitude and high density altitude.

    • @cgee2224
      @cgee2224 Год назад +1

      Unless you have a Turbosupercharger or 1 or 2 stage blower. That helps high altitude performance for piston engined aircraft

  • @planck39
    @planck39 Год назад +6

    Flying without oxigen above 10.000ft is only allowed for 15min. (!!!!) Bad idea with 4 persons on board.

    • @lornespry
      @lornespry Год назад

      The same thought drove me to do some research regarding regulations.

  • @planck39
    @planck39 Год назад +4

    78Deg F at 12.000ft? Then even an aegle drops out of the sky. And then mountaineering with an 182???? With 4 persons on board climb rates

  • @miguelags9514
    @miguelags9514 Год назад +1

    a sudden force pushing down can be a downburst

  • @barbfuller8994
    @barbfuller8994 Год назад +2

    Why is he more important than.other.people who were lost

  • @ntag411
    @ntag411 11 месяцев назад

    An unseen episode for me. I don't have a clue to as to what alternative title this could be, may not be of the Air Crash Investigation series.

  • @marril96
    @marril96 9 месяцев назад

    Why were people allowed to fly over that area when it was known it was dangerous? For decades planes kept crashing there and no one thought, "hey, maybe let's restrict this area"?

  • @paulhammersley4562
    @paulhammersley4562 Год назад +3

    so they pull out all the stop's for Fossett but don't bother with the other eight plane's they found, money talk's even when you're dead,

  • @rikardlalic7275
    @rikardlalic7275 Год назад +1

    So it takes someone from Elite to have an accident in order to find eight other nonElite accidents. What a misery.

  • @planck39
    @planck39 Год назад +5

    DC-3 has an ETOPS excemption. Otherwise they couldn't operate life lines in Alaska. But in '96 for a regular passenger flight? Bad idea.

    • @AviationNut
      @AviationNut Год назад +7

      They said the Gamblers special DC-3 crashed in 1969 not 1996. But anyway there is still passenger flights to this day on DC-3's Buffalo airways in Northern Canada flies Cargo and daily passenger flights using DC-3's to all the small communities in North West Territories, Canada. In 2021 there was still over 250 DC-3's still flying in passenger and cargo configurations all over the world. Columbia has the most DC-3 passenger flights in the world. Also here in the US they have DC-3 passenger flights but it's mostly for aviation enthusiasts that want to pay to experience a flight in a DC-3.

    • @awuma
      @awuma Год назад +3

      @@AviationNut There are turboprop DC-3 conversions (e.g. Basler BT-67) flying, particularly in the North West and Antarctica. The DC-3 airframe is still uniquely useful and durable, almost 90 years after it was designed, but modern turboprop engines are vastly more reliable and lighter, though the fuel required is heavier and more bulky.

  • @drats1279
    @drats1279 Год назад +1

    The Vegas to LA flight is exactly why I do not fly on any plane when I do not know who the pilots are. Big gamble to trust your life to pilots who may take shortcuts or mechanics you know nothing about. I am not that trusting. No commercial flights at all. No ms. multiple chins the airplane did not go straight down if they hit the side of a mountain.

  • @HappyQuailsLC
    @HappyQuailsLC Год назад

    Maybe you can ride the updraft side of those winds and find it exciting and if you do it right you can shoot over the top with the momentum involved

  • @Dirkmez
    @Dirkmez 7 месяцев назад

    I wonder why there is tape covering the 'Minolta' branding on that Minolia SR-T 303 SLR camera?

  • @garystewart3110
    @garystewart3110 Год назад +2

    anyone that flies small planes over mountains is familiar with the phenomenon called the "mountain wave" most experienced pilots will plot a course around the mountains not over them.

  • @BigJMC
    @BigJMC Год назад +1

    It must be aliens 👽

  • @jamie.777
    @jamie.777 Год назад

    That gentleman with black hair discussing the crashes was all choked up.

  • @acts29today
    @acts29today Год назад +9

    I flew many mt st helens scenic flights because the owner of the plane was afraid to fly back e the mountain after getting caught in a downdraft 😮and scared him so he hired me to fly for him 😂 I never had a problem staying higher than the down drafts

  • @johnharris7353
    @johnharris7353 Год назад +3

    Its not a McDonnell Douglas DC3. It's just a Douglas DC3.

    • @guardrailbiter
      @guardrailbiter Год назад

      Shows such as this will _always_ fail when it comes to accuracy and precision.

  • @elvarg991
    @elvarg991 Год назад

    Interesting to hear AH on this video

    • @guardrailbiter
      @guardrailbiter Год назад

      Nope. According to the credits:
      Colin Tierney ... Narrator

    • @elvarg991
      @elvarg991 Год назад

      @@guardrailbiter OK😯 Sounds very much like AH

  • @newsystem3667
    @newsystem3667 8 месяцев назад +2

    Stop saying "expired" dude, people are not milk.

  • @narimannourizadeh3693
    @narimannourizadeh3693 Год назад

    what a sad story

  • @Mikewgoogle537
    @Mikewgoogle537 Год назад

    Learned to fly in Tonopah Nv

  • @tristanmartymercado757
    @tristanmartymercado757 Год назад +1

    Thousand of aircraft crash and no emergency call

  • @MUSTBUYRIGHT
    @MUSTBUYRIGHT 8 месяцев назад

    2000 downed aircraft of just regular people you couldn't find or didn't bother to look for.

  • @robertsandberg2246
    @robertsandberg2246 Год назад

    "Whoa! This is NOT a good island for airplanes!" - Robin Monroe 'Six Days Seven Nights".

  • @tonycleworth8116
    @tonycleworth8116 Год назад +2

    27 minutes 05 seconds in……… Have they changed ground speed for airspeed just sensationalise the storyline?! 🤨

    • @aeomaster32
      @aeomaster32 Год назад

      Many people have no conceptual understanding of the difference.

  • @lesscobrandon
    @lesscobrandon Год назад +1

    I knew when i started watching this it was a downdraft... Its now 43 of 49 minutes and the word downdraft has not been mentioned.

  • @GeoffreyWare
    @GeoffreyWare Год назад +1

    Another great reason to keep your feet on the ground and stay out of airplanes.... unless a plane crashes into my house I will not die because of a plane crash...

  • @peterbradshaw8018
    @peterbradshaw8018 Год назад +3

    British Overseas Airways Corporation that crashed into Mount Fuji.

  • @kimmccabe1422
    @kimmccabe1422 7 месяцев назад +1

    Man does not have 9 lives! But what is sadder to me is that it took a famous millionaires death to uncover all these wrecks and the reason why. I think this, not his flying, is his true legacy!

  • @Relationship-advice1805
    @Relationship-advice1805 Год назад +3

    Very well to put together documentary buh their also a lesson to learn the rich will alway be treated better than any other human look at the other planes that crushed there buh the didn't care much to find out until a rich man had a demise on the same sight....only then did the give this importance

    • @indianfan1029
      @indianfan1029 2 месяца назад

      Sadly, thats how the world is. There is talk of equality and justice, but in reality it doesn't exist. Only the rich and the powerful are entitled to be treated right. Others are just unofficial slaves.