Heartbreaking Plane Crash So Close To Airport (LOT Polish Airlines Flight 5055) - DISASTER BREAKDOWN
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These were the final words that were captured on the Cockpit Voice Recording on board LOT Polish Airlines Flight 5055. Translated from Polish into English this reads... “Goodnight, goodbye. Bye, we are dying”. These haunting final words came at the very end of a struggle to save the lives of 183.
The case Flight 5055 is one where a lot of things went wrong. On May 9th, 1987, this large passenger plane fell out of the sky following a devastating catastrophic failure within the plane’s engines. What followed was a desperate struggle from the pilots to save the plane from crashing. Ultimately this resulted in the deadliest air disaster in Poland’s history. But its how it got to this point is what we need to examine further. Because hidden away beneath this surface of this plane’s skin, is certain type of failure that occurred at multiple levels, mechanical and financial.
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I kinda like this video format
Can you make Olympic Airways flight 411
You created video about this disaster! Thank you very much!
I'm Polish living directly near this flight crash site.
This is long comment because I have a lot to share about it.
I'm personally very tightly bond to this accident. My house is located 1.3 kilometers (it takes me less than 15 minutes to walk to there) from crash location. I live here from when I was born.
I actually haven't been born yet when this tragedy had place - but my parents and 2 my grandparents lived here too back then and saw this happening by their own eyes. Plane in fire falling from the sky over our small village, at border of Warsaw.
Parts of plane and things from luggage hatch had been falling from sky - some falled to area of my parents and my mom's parents.
When pilots flew into our area they already knew very well, that they can't save plane and people on board ... They steered plane to direction of Kabacki Forest, to avoid killing people on the ground. They saved people on ground, nobody was killed. Plane crashed just at entrance to Kabacki Forest. Pilots are absolute heroes - my respect to them.
Our house is located near Chopin airport, at flying/landing/starting paths from this airport. Planes often fly very low over here - this plane was even lower.
My father went to crash location directly after it happened. What he saw there was absolutely horrible. Parts of human bodies were everywhere around ...
In Kabacki Forest is memorial of victims of this disaster at crash site. Names, surnames and age of all people who were on board of that flight and died are written on memorial board, on memorial stone.
I walk and cycle in this forest often. Whenever I reach crash site I stop for some time, pray and pay tribute to pilots, cree and passengers who died in this crash.
Great coverage, DisasterB.
Just an FTI. FONT.
I am a little bit visually compromised and couldn’t read a single bit of pilot/control translation.
It was a cool artistic choice, but I tried on my phone and casting to my TV; still nothing. Dugatz. Nada.
Interesting video, as usual.
Can you do Cebu Pacific flight 387 plz
My School was right next to the crash site, literally 50 meters away. We would go there for walks with my class from time to time.
The trees still haven’t overgrown the place where the plane crashed.
This tape recording, how calm they all were up until the end, and the last words used to keep me up at night as a child. They still do whenever I’m reminded of them.
Regardless of the dire situation, the pilots were amazing and performed incredibly under such a terrible amount of chaos. I feel like those kinds of people are of a certain breed, where they become pilots in the first place because they’re able to stay calm and collected. I’m also pretty certain that the captain did purposefully crash in the woods, as opposed to the rather densely populated area - this has been the case in many plane crashes …always makes me tear up because it’s such a selfless act, done solely to prevent further loss of life. I have the DEEPEST respect for them, true act of heroism, in my opinion!
Polska🇵🇱 I was a seven year old kid living in Warsaw when the 1987 disaster happened. I remember my mom taking me and a friend to the forest where the plane crashed. There was a big stone where people would leave flowers and also anything that might had been an aircraft part found after the initial search. One of my most vivid childhood memories.
@@jeshkam you’re toxic! 🤛🏻what Twitter?
spiderman into spiderverse< sad that they did not go into Modlin?
School was in Kajakowa street? Or Sarabandy street?
I lost my amazing Mother in the Disaster. I have been trying, with other families of our close ones who perished in the Crash, to preserve the Memory about the Victims. It is more important at this point to remember WHO they were, since we know HOW they perished.
So very sorry for your loss, Celina.
My condolences on the loss of your Mother
what kind of person was she?
@@MiszzMiszz I’d also love to hear about her
@@MiszzMiszz
Thank you All for all the kind words. This tragedy will never heal. The families are not connected, I know only a few who lost someone in the Crash.
My Mother was a biochemist. It was supposed to be her first visit in US, visiting us for just two weeks. She was very brave, during WWII she was involved in the Polish Resistance, joining the Underground at age 16. Devoted Mother, unselfish, loving and giving. Perished at 62, just retired.
In Remembrance:
Captain Zygmunt Pawlaczyk, 59
First Officer Leopold Karcher, 44
Flight Engineer Wojciech Kłossek, 43
Navigator Lesław Łykowski, 54
Radio Operator Leszek Bogdan, 43
Observer Ryszard Chmielewski, 54
Flight Attendant Maria Berger-Sanderska, 39
Flight Attendant Hanna Chęcińska, 36
Flight Attendant Małgorzata Ostrowska, 29
Flight Attendant Jolanta Potyra, 41
Flight Attendant Beata Płonka, 24
Anna Małgorzata Adamska, 47
Włodzimierz Auguścik, 46
Władysław Bałdyga, 64
Halina Barszczowska-Jarosz, 46
Stefan Bidelski, 37
Krystyna Błażejewska, 39
Krystyna Boczar, 57
Mirosław Borowski, 37
Antoni Brodziński, 60
Henryk Brzezik, 34
Bertha Bukowski, 54
Jan Buła, 31
Stanisław Byra, 63
Henry Chechowski, 39
Halina Chmura, 22
Vincent Joseph Cwik, 29
Zdzisław Czajczyński, 58
Wiesława Czapkowska-Starczyk, 28
Bronisław Czechorowski, 35
Irena Czuzdaniuk, 50
Anna Dalska-Stec, 32
Waldemar Dąbkowski, 24
Halina Domeracka, 59
Stefan Drapała, 57
Antonina Duba, 49
Bernard Duba, 49
Jerzy Duszyński, 36
Krystyna Dymek, 41
Maria Dytrych, 25
Jadwiga Elbert-Chmielnicka, 41
Edward Feret, 37
Joanna Filus-Brak, 5
Kazimierz Filus-Brak, 39
Tadeusz Gierlach, 51
Danuta Gil-Laganowska, 47
Jadwiga Głębocka, 45
Roman Głębocki, 50
Antoni Głowacki, 33
Irena Gospodarczyk-Szklarska, 71
Władysława Grabias, 33
Janina Gregorczyk, 54
Marian Grzejka, 52
Kazimiera Hanson-Adrian, 95
Ludwik Jabłecki, 59
Artur Jaroszyński, 30
Dorota Jóźwik, 34
Stanisław Kabaj, 63
Lubomir Kaczor, 25
Janina Kalinowska, 62
Mirosława Karczewska, 38
Zenon Karwowski, 38
Aniela Kirsch, 45
Katarzyna Klimaszko, 65
Stanisław Kłos, 67
Helena Knapik, 42
Grzegorz Kolarzyk, 28
Tadeusz Kołdras, 40
Antoni Kołek, 33
Edward Kossak-Główczewski, 41
Władysława Kozakowska, 60
Stanisław Krukierek, 77
Halina Kruszewska, 47
Jacek Kuciak, 49
Krystyna Kuciak, 45
Anna Kulesza, 44
Bogusława Kurdyła, 20
Anna Łatka, 74
Stanisław Łęcki, 57
Henryk Andrzej Mach, 39
Anna Maciąg, 41
Zofia Mackiewicz, 57
Chester Stanley Mailn, 74
Kazimierz Majchrzak, 31
Marian Małż, 42
Izabela Masłyk, 59
Andrzej Maziarz, 31
Jan Mazur, 32
Richard McConnell Clark, 51
Leokadia Męcikalska, 44
Tadeusz Miąsik, 33
Anna Michalak, 83
Halina Miencicka, 58
Sylwestra Migiel, 37
Kazimierz Misiewicz, 41
Michał Miśkiewicz, 38
Anna Murdyła-Dudziak, 35
Richard Joseph Nesgoda, 43
Robert Leonard Nesgoda, 51
Kazimierz Niemyjski, 36
Julianna Oberbeck, 62
Dariusz Odolecki, 25
George Olschewski, 37
Irena Orłów, 52
Kazimiera Orzeł, 48
Tadeusz Osipa, 42
Lucyna Pasińska, 48
Bogdan Paszczuk, 60
Henryk Paszczuk, 51
Irene Patrylak, 51
Władysław Pawłowski, 66
Anna Piękoś, 48
Władysława Pisula, 47
Mieczysław Pnerz, 56
Martha Louise Pocelay, 25
Aleksander Pogorzelski, 70
Lucjan Pogorzelski, 45
Adam Prus, 35
Zenon Przechera, 28
Stanisław Puzio, 41
Barbara Rogańska, 59
Urszula Rudnicka, 56
Zofia Rudnicka, 57
Kazimierz Rudnicki, 60
Krystyna Rudzińska, 55
Stanisław Rusnaczyk, 30
Helena Rutkowska, 72
Leonarda Rutkowska-Sawko, 49
Marian Rutkowski, 22
Wiktor Rutkowski, 53
Michalina Rycerz, 61
Marianna Ryczak, 58
Alicja Sadowska, 40
Władysław Sadowski, 48
Irena Salmonowicz[a], 62
Mikołaj Sawczyński, 51
Regina Schaumkkessel, 55
Katarzyna Sigda-Papa, 52
Claudine Sikora, 43
Krystyna Siwik, 40
Jan Skibniewski, 44
Mieczysław Słomka, 42
Jan Sobolewski, 41
Adam Sosnowski, 69
Helena Sosnowski, 66
Kazimierz Stec, 37
Ewa Surgał, 27
Stefania Szulc, 52
Wacław Śliwowski, 42
Jan Teodoruk, 31
Józef Teresak, 30
Andrzej Tokarzewski, 57
Anna Tomczyk, 38
Henryk Tomkiel, 64
Anna Torba, 50
Janusz Trubisz, 30
Yvette Victoria Trubisz, 2
Cecylia Trubisz-Famulak, 32
Ewa Trusewicz, 4
Jolanta Trusewicz, 25
Helena Turziak, 48
Bronisław Urban, 58
Bronisława Urban, 63
Zofia Wacht, 78
Andrzej Wesołowski, 35
Elisabeth Grace Widerynski, 30
Fryderyk Widłak, 53
Andrzej Wiechecki, 33
Maria Wilk, 56
Jan Stanisław Winiarski, 35
Jarosław Wiśniewski, 29
Rozalia Wojewódzka, 60
Wacław Wojewódzki, 57
Christine Wojtas, 4
Tadeusz Wojtas, 35
Irena Wojtczak, 65
Mirosław Woskobojnikow, 38
Gertruda Woytas-Koziol, 46
Stanisława Wszołek, 28
Kazimierz Zając, 40
Stanisława Zera, 57
Maria Zub, 36
Janusz Zyzda, 48
RIP all victims of this disaster 😢
May they rest in peace. God bless them all.
@@LightSpeedFury01YT and a 2 year old 😢
Good grief. Passenger and crew lists really give you a picture of how devastating this tragedy was. Such a shame.
Been watching a hundreds cases of air crash investigations and first time to see the list of deceased passengers. RIP...
It's so chilling and devastating to think that they were so close only for the plane to win in the end. Knowing that they told the ATC "Goodnight, goodbye, bye, we're dying" makes my blood run ice cold.
Me too. What a very brave and utterly professional and gentlemen to the last. God Bless all those poor souls RIP 🎉
Yep. I couldn't even watch the last minute of transmission, as this is so dark and tragic. At a loss of words here. :(
May all the souls aboard this flight rest in peace.
crazy how everyone died on this flight but flights like air china 129 which crashed into a mountain had survivors
@@mikal0457 well one crash the plane did a straight down nosedive, the other came in at a fairly level angle onto the mountain.
the more accurate translation is 'bye, we are perishing', which makes it even more chilling
Those final words are so haunting, but also brave and in a way, beautiful. To face death and know you can’t win, so you give a bittersweet “goodbye” to your friends, your family, the world.
I'm from Poland. Thank you very much for this episode. I'm to young to remember or even live when this happened but as a passionate of flying this crash is close to me. Thank you for all your episodes. Wonderful work.
Thank you so much for watching!
Made me sad RIP people. xxx
spiderman into spiderverse< sad that they did not go into Modlin?
A rare case of a corrupt public official actually saving someone's life admittedly unintentionally!
Well he saved one and doomed another
Why corrupt? By following the rules?
@@piwex69 because he did it so she got bumped off the flight and the other person presumably either a friend of his or someone who'd paid him or both got on.
@@kinangeagle133 was going to post the same point
But you're missing the point that corrupt politicians and officials okayed the wrong bearings that were not up to specification and then modified them to be placed in the central shaft of an engine spending at fifty thousand RPM. Knowing that that plane was going to have 180-plus souls on board. Not to mention the fact that the corrupt official killed his friend.
Jesus... one of the saddest crashes I've seen. It's very unfortunate that the captain didn't land at Modlin airport, but none in the cockpit, I believe, was aware of the full extend of the emergency. A very, very sad story.
Great work Chloe, and RIP everyone onboard Flight 5055 🙏🏼
Makes you wonder why no body of the Crew mentioned that there Was seemingly smoke in the cabin long before the last Hydraulic stopped working
@@Dante1282 yeah, indeed. Apparently, the flames were roaring in the cabin, like in the crashes of ValuJet 592, Nigeria Airways 2120 and the Köning Wusterhausen disaster. Absolutely dreadful
@@Dante1282 It might have been radio or intercom failure?
@@billythekid3234 so what just walk up to the pilots. This was seemingly long before 2001 so it should have been possible to get to the pilots
@@Dante1282 If right at the start, one person on the flightdeck had gone out to report on the full situation, they would have used the first opportunity to get the aircraft on the ground.
Locked away on the flight deck, an increasing sense of false security developed. The final decision to turn through 180 degrees for an alternative runway and waste a further 15 minutes, was in my opinion the worst and final mistake.
It was not the first time that pilots have made similar unwise decisions.
This is one of the saddest crash the crew fought to the bitter end in an effort to save their plane and passengers, the one passenger who was denied to board was very lucky.
RIP to the passenger and crew onboard
Yet another advantage to be rich and privileged. Her excesses saved her life.
This pilot was one of the best in the history of Polish aviation. The number of malfunctions he battled would have been enough for several catastrophes. He was very close to saving the plane and passengers. A great loss and sorrow.
before swissair 111 there seemed to be no understanding that a fire on an airplane = immediate landing anywhere, even in the forest
You created video about this disaster! Thank you very much!
I'm Polish living directly near this flight crash site.
This is long comment because I have a lot to share about it.
I'm personally very tightly bond to this accident. My house is located 1.3 kilometers (it takes me less than 15 minutes to walk to there) from crash location. I live here from when I was born.
I actually haven't been born yet when this tragedy had place - but my parents and 2 my grandparents lived here too back then and saw this happening by their own eyes. Plane in fire falling from the sky over our small village, at border of Warsaw.
Parts of plane and things from luggage hatch had been falling from sky - some falled to area of my parents and my mom's parents.
When pilots flew into our area they already knew very well, that they can't save plane and people on board ... They steered plane to direction of Kabacki Forest, to avoid killing people on the ground. They saved people on ground, nobody was killed. Plane crashed just at entrance to Kabacki Forest. Pilots are absolute heroes - my respect to them.
Our house is located near Chopin airport, at flying/landing/starting paths from this airport. Planes often fly very low over here - this plane was even lower.
My father went to crash location directly after it happened. What he saw there was absolutely horrible. Parts of human bodies were everywhere around ...
In Kabacki Forest is memorial of victims of this disaster at crash site. Names, surnames and age of all people who were on board of that flight and died are written on memorial board, on memorial stone.
I walk and cycle in this forest often. Whenever I reach crash site I stop for some time, pray and pay tribute to pilots, cree and passengers who died in this crash.
That's so sad and your right those pilots were heroes. This crash reminds me of the DC10 Turkish airline disaster. That accident was caused by a cargo door not being closed properly and when the plane was in the air all control was lost and the plane crashed into the ermanaville forest just outside Paris all 346 people on that plane were killed. Rip to the victims .
Somehow they know you honor them, even after all this time. They know, and they honor you in return. 🙏
Fire on board is just the most dreadful and saddening type of incident…
Valuejet 592, Nationair 2120, South African 295, Swiss 111, and of course this one… I can’t imagine the fear and despair that the passengers on board experienced.
R.I.P.
Yep. If you ask any commercial pilot what they fear the most and all of them will agree that an in-flight fire is the worst thing to happen because of how short an amount of time a pilot has to land their plane at the nearest airport.
Another good example of an in-flight fire is UPS Flight 6 that crashed in Dubai due to lithium batteries experiencing thermal runaway and quickly destroyed the flight controls and burnt through the cargo liner.
Thank you for crediting Alex Hoe for the ATC recordings! He, Jerald Heiss, and various other Russian colleagues have been cataloguing an immense amount of CVR's and ATC recordings; and theyre the highest quality I've seen in a long time!
My first ever plane ride was on an il-62m operated by Lot when my family moved from Poland toCanada in 1989. My dad was an aviation buff and would talk about the two Il-62m crashes. He was a university student in Warsaw when 007 happened
I lost my dad to pancreatic cancer in July. I think he would have appreciated this video
This “longest ever” episode was worth every second. So well made and respectfully done!
I live 2 km from the crash site. Sometimes I pass by the monument to the victims of the catastrophe in the Kabaty Wood and think how terrible that must have been.
A bunch of these recommendations mentioned at the end actually made it into Polish IL's. Obviously the Polish government couldn't change their supplier of aircraft, nor request a modernisation be carried out by Ilyushin to prevent these types of uncontained engine failures. So PLL LOT went about improving the plane themselves. Among the changes introduced were:
- A second set of redundant controls in the back of the cabin
- Introducing smoke detectors in baggage area no.4 as well as an automatic baggage area firefighting system
- Introducing a small hatch in the door leading back to the plane's technical section to facilitate extinguishing the fire even in the case of the doors jamming.
Most crucially however, Swiss-made sensors, with modernized warning systems were introduced to better detect engine shaft vibrations. This, along with an engine oil check after every flight allowed the engineers to predict and pilots to isolate similar faults before they got out of hand. These improvements actually averted another likely crash in 1990. LOT flight no. 15 was flying from Warsaw to Toronto, when one of the engine vibration sensors went off. The captain made the decision to shut off that particular engine and continued to Toronto on the remaining 3, where the plane touched down safely.
After sending the engine in question to the USSR, the Ilyushin bureau declared that the same type of bearing whose failure brought down Flight 5055 had failed on flight 15. Since Poland was an independent country by that point, whis was one of the calls to change their fleet.
(source is polish wikipedia on the crash)
So they modified(improved) the bearing to a point of catostrophic failure...and make it sound like Ilyushin was the problem.
@@victorzvyagintsev1325 It was the other way around, they fixed the bearing AFTER the crash, because Ilyushin screwed up.
@@tupolewposting2733 Fixed the bearing after critical failure? Seriously want me to believe that?
@@victorzvyagintsev1325 According to professor Jerzy Maryniak, the Russians made the incomplete bearing and installed it in the engine, and the poles did not replace it because of availability problems, and it being deemed safe to fly with by the manufacturer (The engine had barely passed a quarter of its expected lifespan, and since it hasn't been tampered with outside of the factory, nobody expected such a drastic failiure), which caused the crash. The bearings on remaining Il-62Ms were all replaced AFTER the crash and went through rigorous inspections. LOT also started to put limited trust in Ilyushin, since its negligence in the manufacturing process was the root cause of Flight 5055 crash
So to sum it up. While the crash of Flight 007 was caused by both a manufacturing defect of the engine, and the negligence of the Polish maintenance crews, The fault for the events aboard Flight 5055 and 015 lies solely with Ilyushin and its terrible quality control.
@@tupolewposting2733 it the same as with the presidential Tupolev. Poles will never admit that they fracked up.
What a sad story. To think they were that close to making it...
It always amazes me to see people's lives lost or saved by the smallest things. I can't imagine how that lady must have felt when she found out that neglecting to fill the customs paperwork for her coat saved her life.
Or the customs officer, when he realized his favor put his buddy onto the fatal flight!
I wondered if the crew felt some real hope, as they started the fateful turn at only 12km away. I felt it, anyway. So close.
Yeah. They didn't ditch away from town. They were trying to make it.--- couldn't slow down NEAR enough. RIP
Likely survivor’s guilt.
spiderman into spiderverse< sad that they did not go into Modlin?
My niece is first generation American, her family emigrated to the USA from Poland right before she was born. Her aunt and uncle were on this flight, they were flying to New York to visit the family in New Jersey.
Sorry for your loss, Shirley.
@@MrBsbotto thank you. She was married to my nephew who passed away last year
Thank you for all that you do. Your channel, Mentour Pilot and Green Dot Aviation are by far the most comprehensive and informative aviation incident channels on RUclips. I always stand to learn from your deep understanding of all manner of human factors, mechanics, and operations, in each and every incident. I am deeply impressed by your work.
I'm also a fan, among many, of Mentour Pilot
I just wish that the Mentour Pilot Discord was moderated. There are a lot of sexists there and nothing anyone can do when it’s not moderated.
And we must not forget 74gear, also a great channel.
Here in Brazil we have the channel Aviões e Músicas, which is very good also. Now they are beginning to translate its videos to english, it is worth watching.
Peter (Mentour Pilot) and Kelsey (74Gear) have made two or three videos together. It would be very interesting if you (Disaster Breakdown) made a video with them.
Mentourpilot is axshill who cheered the 737max his company had backed when it was still killing people. He is a Ryanair and Boeing shill.
@@mauromondin
I'm a big fan of Kelsey Hughes. ❤ I'm glad you mentioned him, hehe. Cheers.
To make matters worse, looting has been reported at the crash site, mainly of money and objects such as rings, necklaces or valuables that the deceased had.
Welcome to the realities of communism.
This has happened at so many crash sites - it's baffling and absolutely disgusting. Even the Lockerbie crash site wasn't safe from looters.
You speak so beautifully, very clearly and with little or no music or SFX track, it makes your docos second to none.
EXCELLENT work, thank you. ❤
Less than two minutes in, and those final words gave me chills. It’s brave, in a way, saying farewell to the world one more time before the end.
I’m sure this’ll be another great video, but damn-this sets the mood!
The only words I could say at their seat is probably something like kurwa mać, popierdolony samolot.
I was in a plane from Osaka or Tokyo (can't remember now) to Frankfurt once that hit a HUGE turbulence just before landing. The plane felt like it dropped 30 meters in a heartbeat with a THUMP (no, it wasn't birdstrike, it had been shaky for a few minutes before) and I've never clenched so hard. Imagine you're already thinking of the next thing after the flight and then, poof, bang, no more.
The plane hit wake turbulence created from another plane that passed its path - Happens quite often and is very rapid and violent sometimes.
Thank you for the excellent coverage of this horrific tragedy. RIP to all those who perished
There are also some similarities to Swissair flight 111 in 1998.
1) The planes had the opportunity to head straight to the nearest airport at the first sign of danger, but lost time turning back to a faraway field with possibly better facilities.
2) Pilots assumed a fire had gone out or was less severe than it was.
3) Dumping fuel may have delayed landing and distracted pilots.
4) Pilots chose a descent that involved unnecessary turns instead of lining up with the runway despite loss of control surfaces; crash occurred during turn not far from airport.
Landing fully loaded transatlantic airplane with fire onboard is high danger itself. Overweight condition can cause a failure in a landing gear, which in turn can cause fire in fuel tanks after landing. Yes, you may put plane in one piece just to turn it into fireball few seconds later - so fuel dump was a must. Bu the rike they dumped fuel, plane was close to both Modlin and Warsaw, but military was slow to respond and could not provide vectors, so Modlin had to be abandoned. Now, without rudder and elevator (both controls damaged by engine explosion) it would be essentially impossible to do crab landing with crosswind. They only chance was geting to headwind condition. Why they did not know about fire in cargo bay? Because whatever hole sucked out flight attendant was also very effective at smoke removal. Smoke detectors located in the aft of cargo bay were cut off instantly at the engine failure. If they knew that cargo bay was on fire from the beginning they would try 04 instead of 33, however path to 04 was already over populated areas atm and approach to 33 was over fields.
Ehm No....😅
You can actually safely land a fully fueled heavy aircraft above the maximum landing weight. Even large ones that cross the Atlantic ocean.
You just have to do an additional inspection after landing. In fact if it's a time critical emergency you will always land overweight and not start dumping fuel if the time is running out.
The plane is designed to handle it.
You just have to use a little bit more care.
And the runway need to be long enough to land with a much heavier aircraft. But it's definitely doable.
Dumping fuel is NO must.
I have seen 747 landing way above their maximum landing weight in time critical emergencies.
Unfortunately for that to happen, the pilots need to know that it's a life or death decision and dumping fuel might cost them their lifes.
This is also the reason why the first officer on Swissair 111 suggested to the captain to skip the fuel dumping and land overweight.
Because it's perfectly doable.
But since both pilots then agreed to dump the fuel because they didn't perceive the smoke as a life threatening fire but just as some little bit of smoke (coming maybe from the cabin or the galley) they choose to dump fuel instead of heading right towards the airport.
And this caused them to tun out of time once the fire got out of control.
Landing overweight is something that happens every few months. The airplane gets an additional inspection and is good to return to service after that.
No real danger. Of course you have to handle the jet with more care and you can't smash it into the runway because it's heavier. But since you are not supposed to hit the runway like an Impacting meteor anyway and you are a trained pilot, it's not really dangerous. The plane is designed to handle it.
The plane is tested to handle that exact same type of scenario before it gets it's certification.
If you have time to dump
--> you dump whenever possible (because that additional inspection will take the airplane out of service for quite some time and that would of course cost a lot of money)
If you don't have time
--> always land overweight
Thank you, Chloe, for making a programme on this crash. I used to translate a lot of materials for a major European manufacturer of bearings. I had always marvelled at the design and functions of various kinds of bearings, and appreciated how important they were in keeping moving parts work properly, which was vital to safety. This kind of corner-cutting is what I dread.
It's worth sharing here, I suppose... Kohler has been known quite widely to put roller bearings much like those in the vid' (albeit smaller) into the crankshaft bearing races of their smaller engines... down to 5HP. As a kid, rebuilding some of those were part of my education as I grew into an engine tech' along with the great many other things I've learned to tear-down and completely rebuild over the years...
Most engines, in the crankshaft, at least, use sleeves or "thrust" bearings, more akin to a bushing than any actual bearing... Supposedly, they just accept the wear, and build cheap so they can be regularly replaced easier... BUT there were a few companies, Kohler, Milwaukee, and a handful of others, who insisted upon the roller bearings just about EVERYWHERE there were rotating parts... Along with keeping to a cast-iron block much later than competitors, those were companies I've sought after all my adult life for retro-fitting and refurbishment to any applications. They might be aggravating to work on, and expensive hunting for "antique" and "obsolete" parts, but as my stepdad, several uncles, and a fistful of adoptive grandparents always agreed, "Once it's right, the damn thing STAYS right... just about for f*cking ever and under ANY circumstances!"
You just can't beat good bearings where they're used! ;o)
Investigators may have sent the reccomendations to Moscow, but all of the modifications, including the engine vibration gauge, LOT had to install on its own. And in fact, they prevented two possible crashes - in october 1987 during the flight to Mediolan on Tu-154 with those modifications, crew turned off the engine that indicated higher vibrations and returned instantly to Warsaw, and in the march 11 1990, at the flight 15 to Toronto, on IL-62, also one of the engines had to be shut down during the flight. The plane made it to the Toronto, and flew back to Warsaw on 3 engines without passengers. The faulty engine was inspected later, and the vibrations were caused by the same thing, that led the engine number 2 on flight 5055 to that catastrophic failure. Exactly after this crash, LOT retired all of their IL-62s and switched fully to B767's. What is also interesting, is the person of the captain Tomasz Smolicz - he was the captain of the SP-LAA IL-62 the day before the crash of this aircraft, he flew it to NY at march 13, 1980. The crew that flew the other day, including capt. Paweł Lipowczan, died in the crash. At the may 9, 1987, he was supposed to be the captain of the flight 5055, but because of the family gathering, he took a day off, and he switched places with captain Pawlaczyk. Then, at the march 11, 1990, he was the captain of the flight 15 - but the vibration sensor installed after the 5055 crash, saved his life. So basically, he luckily managed to escape death in IL-62's three times.
As a Pole, I am impressed at how well he pronounced the pilots’ names for someone who (presumably) lives in the UK.
We have a lot of Polish people in the UK now. We're getting good at pronouncing Polish names 😊
As a Polish guy , ppl holder and ATPL student, thank you for this episode 👍👍story
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well know among Polish people , very important for us , but not in the world - you changed that heh :)
If you can only understand Polish language , last words are extra emotional
Thanks again 👍
Thank you for covering this tragic crash from my home country. I'd like to suggest a vastly differen crash that's an even more significant event in our fairly recent history, the Smolensk air disaster. It's not often you see a President and several highest ranking official of a country die in a single crash
Yes I have had recommendations to cover that, I believe the CVR was released for that right? I should think about making that video.
@@DisasterBreakdown Smolensk is a mess due to all the political events around the time of disaster and more importantly after it. It is like JFK assassination and 9/11 combined.
To these very day one of political faction claim that it wasn't a disaster but assassination. They even publish (accidentally) photos of victims dead bodies at the place of disaster in their raport in which they claim that russians placed the bomb inside the plane.
The fact that disaster had taken place just before presidential election and ruling fraction at the time (PO) was in fear that disaster would boost the support for opposition (PiS - to which the president belong) during the election let them to close the case as quickly as it was possible at the cost of investigation transparency. Due to that they gave away all control of the investigation to the russians and handle the aftermath in the worst possible way (for example: infamous battle of the cross). As a result it gave rise to numerous conspiracy theories which PiS used as a rallying point to stay as an unified political force on the opposition and took the power in 2015.
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@@DisasterBreakdown Hello, the CVR was released,,,, I know you could do a great video on it! I've seen two others on it so far, But your a cut above them Chole, Blessings to you!
The final words from the cockpit are so sobering - it really makes you think about how the pilots had been fighting to keep their plane in the air, and in the last seconds they had lost all hope and control, and all they could do was say goodbye.
How about if he just put it down on one of the airports he flew by? Or maybe not take that big wide yolo approach? Guy needed to land the plane but decided he had all the time in the world. Wtf was the guy thinking?
@@hansolo631 For starters, they had a full fuel load and were over the maximum landing weight. They also could not dump the fuel due to electrical issues.
Hi ❤
I am from Poland.
Thank You very much for covering this story.
I love listening to Your voice.
Keep up the great work 🌷
Thank you for watching :)
A sad and coincidental piece of trivia: the trainer, Ryszard Chmielewski, was supposed to be on LOT 007 which crashed in 1980, but swapped seats with another crew member at the last minute. That swap bought him seven years...
Such a tragedy. The loss of life is awful, of course, but I also feel for the air traffic controller. I can't imagine what it must feel like to be in communication with a doomed aircraft, or to lose contact with an aircraft in your queue. It's gotta be such a helpless feeling, and I'm sure there's a lot of related emotional trauma-I hope/expect they get the help and support they need to process these awful situations. On the flip side, it's important to also give credit to those controllers who are able to stay calm, composed, and focused when in contact with a flight crew in crisis. It's clear from CVR and ATC recordings that controllers play a critical role in saving the lives of thousands of people every year-correction: every day.
The best (worst?) part is... this is not the only such failure of the IŁ-62 line. You're talking about the 1987 disaster - but it was in fact _a carbon copy_ of the 1980 disaster of a LOT airplane - also an IŁ-62 (though not M). I say "carbon copy", because _the exact same thing happened_ - the #2 engine's shaft disintegrated, causing an uncontained failure of the engine which sprayed debris, destroing its neighbour and the flight controls. In fact, this was a known failure mode of this particular engine. Of course, this could _not_ be fixed, because "Soviet aircraft did _not_ have flaws" (just like their reactors didn't have flaws - Chernobyl (and Sosnowy Bor in 1973 before that!!!) would like a word).
I stress: it was an exact replica of the disaster - we knew how it happened, and that it would happen again. It was entirely and completely preventable... except it would've meant that _somebody_ would've needed to admit to the engines being at fault, which was _unacceptable._
Also, one thing of note: I'm not sure where you get the idea that it was PLL LOT's "cost cutting" at fault here. The engines were Soviet-made, we didn't make them, and things seem to point towards this "change" to the bearings being made by the manufacturer. It would not be surprising, since the centrally-planned economy meant that _everyone_ lacked _everything_ including basic things like steel or cement. Our cars from the era are _nonexistent_ because they've "biodegraded" into _rust dust_ at this point - let _that_ tell you something about the quality of the materials available at the time...
I have never ever waited for any video as much as for this one! Thank you once again for covering it, Chloe!
PS. There's always something which comes to my mind when I think about LOT 5055 and LOT 007 - a statement made by Soviet site at the time the catastrophe of LOT 007 (if I remember correctly from one of the TV docuseries) occured and recovered engine parts were sent to the USSR for further investigation. The manufacturer claimed that engine failure was not a cause of the disaster... but the disaster was the main cause of engine failure... Typical Soviet point of view, I guess.
you are very welcome!
There is another channel called Paper Skies that deals with Soviet aircraft and one of his common sayings is “the Soviet Union wouldn’t be the Soviet Union without…” and finishes it off with whatever insane bureaucratic policy or decision has made something immeasurably worse.
If a plane manufacturer refuses to cooperate with an aircrash investigation, surely that would justify banning their aircraft from international airspace? Permanently.
@@matgeezer2094 You mod the engine parts and you lose warranty on the engine. Simple. Why should the manufacturer worry about a modified engine failing?
Typical Poland, blame the Soviets for everything.
I didn't even realize how long the video was. They're all tragic, but something about those last words...Man...
Worth to mention that “the leader procedure” in which one of four engines installed was known to have higher vibration level, the process used because the carrier could not afford maintenance costs and supplier induced delays, had been only recently made public (many years after the crash). Thus brought light onto the carrier’s fault, not only the supplier’s.
The longest video and in my opinion one of this channel's best. An absolutely riveting account of the accident made even more so by the voice recordings. Incredible how calm and 'matter of fact' the conversations made by the flight crew were in spite of such circumstances. 10/10
Couple of things here...
-AFAIK, the abysmal roller bearing modification was done in the USSR to meet quotas, and not something done by LOT
-A possible (and likely) contributing factor to the loss of control at the end was the crowding of panicked passengers in the front, trying to escape the flames which at this point had already broke through the floor in the aft...
What a sad, sad story 😞 Thanks for telling it so thoroughly and respectfully.
I'm a retired US Army rotary wing aviator...
I visualise this hero only thinking about how he can save the most lives.
RIP colleague, we will meet in our next life.
i loved this video! this is indeed a very sad and heartbreaking accident and your video managed to capture all of it thanks to your clever editing and narration. hope you'd be able to keep up the good work as this is one of the best air disaster documentation i've ever watched!
I live in Poland and I’ve been to the forest this plane crashed in. It’s so sad what happened, and I’m sorry to everyone who lost family and/or friends.
Thank you for this episode. I already knew about the case of 5055, but your in depth dive gave a much more informative explanation. Best wishes from Warsaw!
right when the pilot started replying with "okay" to arc, I think he knew they were doomed and was trying to minimise more death and injury. I don't know the language, but I can hear his hopeless but calculated responses.
I watch a lot of air disaster videos but this is one I’ve never heard of before. I enjoyed your commentary, simulations, and added ATC recordings. Thank you! I’ve now subscribed to your channel and look forward to more videos.
Polska🇵🇱 I was a seven year old kid living in Warsaw when the 1987 disaster happened. I remember my mom taking me and a friend to the forest where the plane crashed. There was a big stone where people would leave flowers and also anything that might had been an aircraft part found after the initial search. One of my most vivid childhood memories.
Great channel. You are both well researched technically and historically, and so very respectful in narration. This case is among your best. 10/10
Really proud of all your work here. Compelling narration on a fascinating subject. Keep it up! Really love your work 😊
Thank you. I've just discovered your channel. Probably my favourite plane channel as you make the technical issues easier to get to grips with.
Great graphics and music and very informative.
Such outstanding valour and professionalism from the crew.
I fly into and out of Poland occasionally and I was surprised to hear the passengers break into spontaneous applause after each successful touch down. It seemed quaint but perhaps was born of genuine relief.
Thank you so much for covering this accident. I was watching your videos a lot last couple of weeks and I was just thinking it would be so interesting to see your analysis of one of the Polish accident like that one or the one with the President from 2010 and here it is... Thank you!
To clarify:
In 1987 there were almost no apartament blocks in Kabaty, Warsaw, maybe there were like 5 blocks on dembego street but i am almost sure they were built in '90 or '91.
Most of buildings in kabaty were built in mid 90's to 2000's.
There was densely populated Natolin north to the area now known as kabaty. And it from early to late 80's grown to about 150.000 - 200.000 people.
This is my childhood neighbourhood.
Kabaty was farmland back then.
Natolin on the other hand is on approach of the other runway and as they couldn't steer they were flying straight into those aparment buildings, inluding mine.
This was my favorite video of yours. Great job. The ATC recording made it that much more haunting.
I remember i once got a yt recommendation to a polish documentary about this crash. It was interesting because despite not knowing polish, or any slavic language, i understood from context what the narrator was saying - it really made me appreciate decent filming when it comes to documentaric(?) content. Still remember watching this four years ago, even remember where i was at the time. Needless to say though, seeing an english narration about the crash was very nice, as always, very interesting - great video, thank you!
Amazing episode! Love the animations and the ATC recordings gave me the chills
The editing on this video is even a level up from your usual videos! Amazing job as always Chloe!
Thank you!
It's true, your editing work has gotten so seamless that I almost fail to notice how polished it has become! You have become a true craftsman producing these very fine labors of love. Thank you sincerely for compiling this very important work.
Once again, clear, detailed and well done. Thank you Chloe for this longer form video. Looking forward to every Saturday morning with your newest video and some high quality coffee. Be well, see you next week!
You have a nice, calm voice which is perfect for narrating these tragic stories. Remember, the human heart must have room for hope or we die; so, don't forget to add stories of triumps as well as tragedies.
This accident is virtually unknown outside Poland.
The current Kabaty Forest Preserve area has been incorporated into the city of Warsaw in 1951. So the crash happened within the city limits.
i like these longer videos, and appreciate the extra effort that goes into making them! great video, as always :)
Fascinating. Thank you for the research and presentation of this tragedy.
Absolutely excellent video! Thank you for posting!
I remember this day perfectly.
All of the sudden services from entire city were just going one way and fast.All you could hear were sirens all over. Soon after it became known what has happened.
Excellent video!! One of your best.... horrible situation but it seemed like an impossible situation 😢
Thank you for watching!
This video was a tragic epic tale spun masterfully. Thank you for your work sir and being willing to share it with us.
This is so sad, if they choose straight in approach they may have had just enough time to land
Christ Almighty...
That final recording, man... 😮🥺😢
Well narrated and detailed presentation ... thank you.
Great content! You covered in 10 minutes what other channels take 50 mins to cover.
Thanks for your work.
I've watched a number of your videos & I love your content & how you narrate the situations. I'm officially subscribed to your channel!
Hey there, awesome video as always! I just wanted to take note of a minor error in the translated transcript at 8:22 . When 5055 says "No, we won't make it to 180, but over 120", I'm fairly certain I can hear the pilot state "[...] ale, tak, sto siedemdziesiąt[...]", which is 170, instead of the 120 displayed on screen.
Oh really? Thanks for letting me know
Man! These pilots were cool and calm! That’s some high level professionalism and what is required for a level head pilot. God bless them!
They should have landed at the first airport in front of them. When an airplane is on fire, you don’t delay getting it on the ground. They screwed up.
@@gregdetwiler9220 they are not aware of the other flame at the time that is why they do not adress it until it's too late
@@lordasian8476a single member of the flight crew could of checked on the situation...
These videos keep getting better. Keep going, i really love this stuff. And thank you for all of this, Chloe
This accident always made me think about how many different ways that it could have ended.
i wonder if in an effort to save a few lives, the cockpit crew ended up losing all lives. Especially not choosing to go with Runway 11
@@NorthernlionLP on that day, the winds at Warsaw Airport was favoring 33. They sadly died because the plane turned
Given the fact they had lost most of controls, it would have ended in runway excursion or failed crab landing, both fatal. Approach from areas already populated at the time was also concerning. Modlin would probably saved them, but military at the time was very hard to cooperate. This burd just burned too fast and was to heavy to even try closer airports. All happened, because rollers were exported at priority to Soviet Union and domestic market had leftovers
one of your best videos to date Chloe. RIP to everyone who perished that day.
The Captain responding simply "Okay" makes me think he knew fate was sealed but he was fulfilling duty to respond to ATC and to remain composed. Like, what else is there to say?
"Okej" - okay, was widely used, but still a slang word in Polish back then (it appears in the 1998 dictionary).
"Goodnight, goodbye, bye. We are dying"... Can't even start to imagine what was going through the pilot's heart seeing and knowing the end is right in front of them, yet found the stability to say the last good bye that would be heard by millions around the World.
What a expertly done video. I like the longer videos so much! Great work.
Thank you for covering this
LOT Polish Airlines Flight 007 deserves a video in and of itself.
It probably will at some point. All I know about it is that it was also an uncontained engine failure but for different reasons? I tried not to get sucked into that rabbit hole whilst making this.
Basically the same thing happened- they put the power of the engines into the highest mode and engines didn’t take it well.
Sad thing was they were also very close to the airport- it actually happened when they were trying to land. What pilots managed to do before they died was lead the plane away from the jevenile detention center, saving children but giving up their lifes.
This crash also had other plots- death of a lot of famous people on board, the fact that they didn’t know if wheels deployed etc. That might be interesting video, I think.
Also, the most known Polish crash of our century, Smoleńsk crash.
@@Pelenaiful Are you referring to the Smolensk crash that occurred in i believe 2010?
That was a catastrophic crash. The death of the Polish president was definitely shocking to hear. That plane was a Tupolev-154. I am not sure if it was the M variant or the original. (The M variant was an improved version of the original 154)
That crash was due to the fateful decision by the pilots to continue the approach in spite of the horrible weather conditions and apparently even shocking the captain reset his altimeter which was apparently standard procedure.
The navigator i believe it was read the altimeter above sea level and apparently undue pressure on the pilots to land at Smolensk because, if they diverted they would be fired or sacked or something on those lines.
@@DisasterBreakdown It was shot down im pretty sure.
@@RBMapleLeaf What I described was the 007 crash, I mentioned Smoleńsk crash at the end but I didn't describe it. I know how it went down and how weird everything was in Poland when it did happened. It was like a fever dream.
That's why you descend and land immediately instead of choosing to land at an airport with better emergency services. Emergency services mean nothing if you aren't on the ground to receive them
Honestly, my first impression is that the military loafed around to even give clearance, and so the pilots didn't trust them to have anything for them when they landed.
The pilots I think didn't quite understand how severe the situation was because all their instruments were failing to tell them anything. They probably had no idea the fire was raging and burning through their control lines until the last few minutes.
@@OhNotThatalmost like they should have sent someone out to check..
well they didn't know how bad the situation was until they lost control of the plane so they tried to land on that airport
(sorry for my bad grammar)
Totally right. As an aftermath of Falkov's Tu-154 crash in 1984, Soviet pilots flying airplanes with rear engine location wanted to land asap in any case of suspected fire. As any delays could cause loss of other engines or/and a total loss of control. However Falkov had just 4.5 minutes to land, most of which they spend to figure out which of 11 failure indicators is true. Investigation stated that pilots made no errors and the situation was beyond any human skill level.
Thanks for the quality video and the quality subtitle my man
Yes it is quite tragic to hear the final words on those black boxes.
The thing that strikes me most about this tragedy is how very close they were to landing. If they had landed at Modlin, or if they had chosen to land at the first offered runway instead of coming in from the south, if the fire had taken just a little more time to attack the controls...they were so close. It's heartbreaking. My condolences to all the people who were lost and their families.
They should have landed @ Modlin they would have made it. but @ the time the pilots thought they had the fire under control . Similar to the Swiss plane accident. the pilots were not too overly concerned to land the plane as quick as possible. The only reason they chose Warsaw is because they had better emergency response teams, when in fact the pilots emergency response was lacking.
@@westnblu 'the pilots emergency response was lacking', no.
They acted fully within reason.
Choosing Warsaw for better emergency response teams was logical from theyre pov because they had no indication that there was still a active fire.
Warsaw would hive them more time to dump fuel, reducing the likelyness of causing dtructural damage to the plane while landing and potentially killing passengers.
Same for the better emergency response teams, again better chances for everyone to survive.
They declared an emergency immediately and started to decend and tried to dump fuel, that is not 'Similar to the Swiss plane accident'.
@@user-to7ds6sc3p The fire is key here. U suggest the pilot and those in the cockpit had no indication of a still active fire, but that's based on a flawed assumption when the pilot made the call and the erroneous belief that the fire no longer was active. No way he should have made that presumption , based on what little he knew @ the time. One always errs on the side of caution under such circumstances. Had the pilot got a more realistic appreciation of the dire situation they were in, no way would he have tried for Warsaw . We can agree to disagree on this one.
@@westnbluI can see where you're coming from. The situational awareness of the pilot definitely could have been higher. I suppose the way I see it is that perhaps better training and systems for fire detection could have been installed. Like, for example, in the event that a fire destroys the detection system, the system itself could detect a fault in the system, report it to the pilot and the manual can say it is a likely sign of an active fire? Of course, there's no way to know what exactly the pilot thought of the fire or what he knew of the state of the rapidly deteriorating controls, but perhaps improvements to training would have resolved that.
At the end, it's still a story of 'all these things could have happened for a better outcome' for me; there were so many decisions made that, had the training or knowledge of the pilots been just a bit different or the plane's systems designed to account for this circumstance, might not have had such an outcome.
@@enasniec-neicsnoc9591 it's a terrible thing to happen and yes better training maybe, but again I emphasise there was an erroneous presumption made by the flight crew to believe that the fire was no longer active. From these accidents in the past flight crews today have been issued with an ultimatum, that any hint of smoke is a potential fire danger and to get the plane down asap. Dump fuel yes but if the fire becomes too extensive even that can be hindered if the mechanics of the plane get damaged by the fire. Time is paramount u don't have time to be 2nd guessing. On your point about having better systems for fire detection, I believe there have been improvements made particularly as regards the cargo area where oxygen gets starved so it helps to supress the fire.
Really appreciate this one. Best wishes from Warsaw
Absolutely excellent video with great background information!
High-quality video and super fascinating, you haven't missed any important fact in this very complivated crash as I've seen some films about it because I'm from Poland too
Cannot imagine how that supposedly an off day for the captain and covering for another- would be his last day alive.😭
"Dobranoc, do widzenia, Cześć, umieramy!" That means Goodnight. Goodbye. Bye, we are dying. Those where the Final Words of Flight LOT Polish Airlines Flight 5055 R.I.P all of the passengers and the pilots and the flight attendants.
27:46 final words of the flight.
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I really love and appreciate your episodes. And you have the best ever voice, to tell! Like its made for listening to. 😊
Your accident videos in this simulation format are the best my favorite is when you done the weather explanation one in the style of a actual weather forecast keep them coming you are the best!!!!
It mightve been the longest video so far, but it flew by (hehe) just as smoothy as all the others. And as per usual, you did an amazing job of covering the disaster and technical breakdown. Always a treat on saturdays when your weekly upload arrives!
Thank you for the kind words :)
It is things like this… Is why I never Get Mad or Question anything. If I forget something, If I’m running late, or/if I may argue with staff at a company I take these as Life savers as you may never know what could or HAD just saved you from Certain Death! RIP to the victims. God Bless them all! 😢
I agree with you. There is much going on we can't see.
Excellently presented video history. Thank you.
YESSSSSS, thanks for the video!
There are some brave pilots out there. My prayer's and condolences to them and their families.
Thank you so much for this video. I'm from Poland and this crash is very well remembered in Poland.
You should also look into making a video on the Smoleńsk disaster, although it is a very controversial topic.
I started consciously interesting to avation safety since 1995, with LOT accidents as first samples.
Chloe, you did excellent research & selection of informations to this video. :)