Flight 111 Plummets Into The Open Ocean | Mayday Compilation | Wonder
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- Опубликовано: 18 апр 2023
- This compilation of Mayday Air Disaster tells the true stories of Swissair Flight 111 and Air Alaska Flight 261.
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How is smoke in the cockpit not an immediate Mayday call, they were way too casual with it.
Since they were heading over Atlantic - maybe should have diverted immediately.
@@leafuller3153i agree, but when in that desperate situation, a mistake was done...rest in peace cap Zimmerman, cap Lowe who tried their best & so sorry to all the families who are still in pain
"I'm in a good place but, but for a bad reason "
Those words are deep 😢
That reminds me of a funny thing I heard. "Dear Passengers: First, the bad news. We're totally lost. The good news is, we're making very good time."
“I’m in the right place for the wrong reason!”
😊
I don’t know if anyone mentioned this in the comments, but the place where the crash happens is iconic for Canadians, and long before the crash happened. The lighthouse in Peggy’s Cove is often included in montages of Canada. For us, this tragedy was made all the more surreal because it happened in a place we all “knew”. Such a sad story. May the dead rest in peace and may their families continue to receive comfort.
@C Lindholm. Do you happen to know the history of Peggy's Cove, and why they choose that name?
二年內跟他通過哦奧鞥也昂昂
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Thanks to RUclips I’m up on all the Canadian catastrophes, like one of the world’s biggest munitions explosions in Newfoundland, which ended with “We must remember that it’s part of mainland Canada.” (I didn’t know that was a problem! A lot of Viking ghosts??) And the major train derailment on a route so long there are eleven shift changes.
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@@victormartinssimoes8619 That was an Indonesian computer virus!
In an emergency, you don't need a checklist especially when you have smoke in the plane. Just land as fast as you can, this is horrible.
You're very handsome ❤
IJS 😊
I can't believe they expect pilots to pull out a checklist when they're literally on FIRE
@@meghanmisaliar they should have dumped fuel immediately ,then descend to halifax , they would have made it ok ,wasted time of swissair procedure, smoke=land asap, basic rule aviation
My grandpa was on that flight Per Spanne he was an amazing guy yet I never met him. I love him ❤️
dont worry man your grandap in heven watch you as you live on he love you bro may he rest in peace
Sorry for your loss! I remember when this happened!!!! ✝️🇨🇦✝️
HECKA LA MA HETTAY?
Sorry for your loss :(
I'm so sorry for your loss! My friend Monte Wilkins was on Swiss air 111 we were at the same college, I knew him as we shared many good friends . He was just 19 when he boarded 111 and his memory will stay with me forever! He shared my dad's name and my birthday . I didn't know his family, but later a book was written on how they survived their grief as well as how it affected their faith .
The plane plummeting to the ocean is one of the most terrifying things I’ve ever seen and knowing that really happened is hard to grasp.
Yes you are forced into your seat, your skin stretches, you are pinned down and are experiencing many, many g's. Maybe 16? You are unable to move, pinned to your seat, and are conscious. And screaming like hell. And you don't want to die.
You must be new to this show
@@paulazemeckis7835 absolutely devastating. I can’t imagine being a family member knowing they endured that type of suffering before death.
@@paulazemeckis7835 lol, not nearly that many g's, fella.
@@paulazemeckis7835 16? HAHAHAAH
The purpose of a checklist is to do all the right things as quickly as possible even when facing novel (to you) situations. It baffles me that they have a crazy long checklist in situations where every second counts.
and if and since there are checklists for everything, or nearly everything, why not also have one for this ominous -outside check-? And have right on the top and with big letters, this -Pitot tubes and system -?
But as one accident investigator said, it is ok to sit in a nice chair on the computer. And say, with hindsight and very smug, this could have done.And that button should have been pressed...
Checklists are like they are to make sure there's no vague or ambivalent information.
Ideally pilots are to familiarize themselves with the checklists regularly. Allowing them to perform the steps more quickly without having to question its content or meanings.
They should prioritize landing instead of wasting time in the air checking the crazy amount of long checklists. Smoke in an aeroplane is not a joke since almost everything in a plane is highly flammable
@@fxbank1194it at the time at least then was procedure for swissair pilots to do the checklist and a little bit of smoke is common so at first they didn’t think anything was seriously wrong
I'm not angry with the many checklists, but why take Swissair 111 away from the Airport area to dump fuel? Why not dump fuel from over 10,000ft or land without dumping fuel. That way we would have had a chance for survivals
Can’t imagine how helpless and distraught those passengers must have felt. Plummeting into ocean at that high speed. 🥺🙏🏽🥺
Yes hope they didn't know or feel anything, but chances are they knew...how terrifying
May all the lost souls rest in peace . . .
This is one of "Wonder's" best video series - informative and hard-hitting, so thank you.
Souls are immortal, the bodies are lost…
@@howmathematicianscreatemat9226Souls are imaginary
@@PeXis what about the law of conservation of energy after death?
@@howmathematicianscreatemat9226 Care to elaborate?
This was a TV series
Those poor people no one deserves to die like that
Man it sucks how the copilot wanted to just land but the captain was insistent on the fuel dump... sometimes its better to go with your gut instead of doing everything by the book.
Yes, exactly!
Yes im feelin so sad for the FO Lowe. he was alive 1minute b4 the crash, i don't know what was going thru his mind, when his captain collapsed & when all electronics failed...my God have mercy
This episode versus any of the others that I've seen, shows a level of investigation that is so high it's so amazing these people the investigators around the world they have one of the most tuff and no no they have the toughest and most critical job in the world as far as I'm concerned thank you to all of these people that daily go without ever hearing any praise thank you.
Best plane series
I check their RUclips channel everyday for a new episode
@@frankwillimasugwu6938 And do you find new episodes?
So involved it really makes u feel for the victims
Not sure if it's meant to come across this way, but man does the pilot seem incompetent. Failure to recognise the serious issue they were in and decides to stay in the air to dump fuel in a holding pattern? Insane.
They should have declared an emergency a long time before they did. Maintaining a Pan Pan Pan status with a smoke filled flight deck?
This was my thought as well.
Exactly, it makes no sense that any situation where they felt compelled to wear their masks didn’t instantly compell them to be like “hmmmmm, MAYBE we should declare a mayday.”
Absolutely! & in my opinion didn't convey to Everyone of the Controllers just as the one said he didn't think it was a serious problem you can't tell me time wasn't waisted..tragic...
Indeed.
Accident like these changing many criterias for airline industry.
I heard the pilot's finally transmission of this flight, it was heartbreaking 😢
which one
How?
I think he’s talking about Swiss Air 330
This incident was a reall illustration of trepidation and fretfulness
May all the lost souls rest in peace.
I dunno but it seemed like a lot of messing round & delay getting to the ground, dumping fuel etc. In my view the SECOND puff of smoke should have instigated a beeline to the nearest landing site, preferably a runway!
it is of course easy for us now, to sit in the safety of a computer chair and comment.
And still, of one company I never heard of.
Who installed that gaming/gambling thing.
Why was the -turn off all electricity in the passenger area - switch breaker bypassed?
No one did check how hot this thing became?
How much electricity it used?
Was the wiring thick enough and safe enough to handle all that additional electricity?
Totally agreed.
They should make pitot covers that can remove themselves. Like paper covers that can fly off at high speeds, or automatic covers that can be controlled by the cockpit.
Does anyone notice that in all of these crashes the pilots are always the best trained, most senior or the plane is the most modern ? I’m just saying
Yes, I thought the same.
@@bboichirok661 Most of the best pilots are the most senior! Most pilots have many hours & much experience. I'm wondering if you're trying to insinuate something, but I don't think that would be the case.
Like when every dead person is always the best person who lived? They all gave the shirts off their backs to anyone who needed it and always made everyone laugh.
Maybe that plays into their overconfidence? Rather than hurrying to get the plane on the ground he thought he could handle it.
@@Kunfucious577they lit up every room they walked into, everyone was their best friend, and they could walk on water.
The “flying blind” episode is really terrifying, I don’t know about you, but if everything fails, I would resort to using a glass of water to get an idea of what my planes attitude was and use a tube of mercury to get an idea of what my altitude would be, is it primitive? Yes. Will it work when nothing else works? Yes.
the only movement from water you will get, is turbulence & flying inverted i believe.. that could be wrong too, look it up tho, it’s actually crazy..
a lot of people have tried using a half full snow globe of water & it just does not work.. kinda blows my mind the more i think about it
or look up “Bob Hoover Pouring Tea In Plane”
When i fly i always have a cup of coffee sitting by my side😉
Yep old school
Smoke obscures vision.
I watch these to remind myself why I don’t fly planes go down and I don’t plan to be on one when it does 😭terrible man I couldn’t even imagine
LOL! But you're more likely to die in a car accident than a plane crash. Just FYI for you!
You have a much more chance in dying inside a car than a plane crash
Still safer than driving
I truly understand. I chickened out on flying and took a 16 hour train to Florida from south Carolina full of stank loud people and a dude who wanted me to date him. I wish I would have flown instead. Lol. And yes, you are most likely to die in a car crash my friend. But I do understand.
@@Reality_TVthat's nonsense
The $2 hr. maintenance person in Peru got jailed because of systems and procedures that were wrong to begin with. They should have had a bright orange cover with a flag hanging down.
A simple air pressure alarm could help prevent this accident, e.g., air pressure induced into 'pito' system would set off alarm in cockpit if pressure was blocked from escaping before take off and be part the checklist.
Ugh 😩 I was on TWA on a redirect landing due to one engine failure, pilot announced they were dropping fuel.. SCARY!!
Yes scary! But now you know that is standard procedure when an aircraft must land before its destination. That's a good thing😊.
@@paulazemeckis7835
After watching all these plane disasters; I stopped flying, I'm serious! 😭
@@loughton57twin engine planes can still fly even if one engine fails
It’s a rare thing and it shouldn’t stop you from flying because you’re more likely to die in a car accident than a plane crash
@@brizzle3903
I don't believe so, that's what "they, TPTB" conditioned us to think, like sheep 🤷♀️
It's like the saying "opposites attract" if u think about it, that makes no sense at all. "You only live once" 🙄.. no, we die once.
Man they really did a good job of dumbing the public down 😞
@@brizzle3903yes but only because there are 1000 times as many cars around than planes. So, OF COURSE a plane looks safer. But if we check the likelihood to survive the next hour, we will get vastly different results. Or in other words: if as many planes flew as cars are driving, we would have about the same number of lethal accidents after a year.
The pilot really try his best 😢
“Tried his best” by not being aware how bad the situation was and wasting precious time doing non essential stuff?🤔️
Oh, I remember this one, vividly.
Several things I don’t understand your entire cockpit is to the point you need your oxygen mask and you don’t declare a emergency nor do you start early wanting to land immediately and start preparing to in that 30 min window you were given than you fly out towards the ocean already having this problem to dump fuel. You should have just landed. I’m sorry but this was a instructor and a experienced pilot. I’m not saying he couldn’t fly well but common sense and logically thinking in a emergency situation there was no logic on the captains part. They still might have made it but he had 30 mins to arrive at the airport 20 mins later he’s over the ocean dumping fuel. No the air controller did everything right he himself was concerned the pilot was to high and by his wording more less why wasn’t he descending to be able to land. Bless all those souls and there family’s so sad.
Years in development. Months and weeks on the assembly line. Obliterated to nothing in mere seconds.
@@nysockexchange2204 it’s absolutely about the lives lost. My comment took nothing away from that. But, it’s also mind blowing to see something like that happen to such a large and technologically advanced machine. But hey, nitpick things and try to find issues where none exist. You do you.
@@aaronallen943 well giving the situation those pilots faced (approx 18 min to deal with an in flight fire), they should be doing a lot more better. Plummeting into the ocean over 500 mph is the worst possible outcome.
@@christopherzhao3135 No way you actually said that, maybe you shoulda been the pilot so you could be a hero
@@nox6438 that’s a fact u can’t change that mate
@@christopherzhao3135 You can say it's theoretically possible to save it all you want, but you're ignoring the entirety of the psychological aspect at play here. It's easy to explain how to save it over RUclips comments, not so easy to keep it together and perform perfectly while you're actually in that live scenario.
Flight to Geneva, Swiss Air 111.
I am sickened by the stupidity and foolhardiness of these two pilots. They owed the victims an apology even in their own demise. Pilots' error causing major catastrophe is totally unacceptable! They took things too lightly when dumping fuel should be the start of the process!
Agreed. So many commenters blaming the ATC and other things. The pilots should have abandoned the "by the book" process really.
For all the experts saying that he should have continued directly towards the airport. It didn't matter since they would have crashed before reaching the airport anyway.
They might have made it but they were too heavy so yes they most likely would have crashed.
New sub
Haven't you uploaded this already a few years ago?
Any aircraft with engines on idle for so long will be decending. amazing these guys didn't realize that.
Those two guys were reluctant to descend in the first place. When the ATC cleared them to descend to 3000ft they simply replied: negative. The cabin isn’t ready for landing/fuel dump hasn’t done. What a moron! I totally blame this accident on the flight crew. Their lack of situational awareness and quick decision skills sealed the fate of everyone on board.
I'm not an airplane pilot, I'm a fishing boat captain out of San Diego. But even halfway through this event, I was already calling this captain a moron. Here's why.
First, "Where there's smoke, there's fire," and when you're in an enclosed vessel, be it airborne or waterborne, any sign of smoke is considered an EMERGENCY SITUATION. We have a saying on ships, and it goes like this: "A FIRE AT SEA CAN RUIN YOUR ENTIRE DAY." We take that statement seriously. This so-called "professional" captain should have put this airplane on the ground ASAP, but instead he flew around like a student pilot enjoying the view. This was an accident just waiting to happen, but could have so easily been avoided. He had plenty of time to land before things went critical.
Ok Monday morning quarterback anything else you want to add? 😐
@@brizzle3903
Why, yes. I'm glad that I wasn't a passenger in this pilot's airplane. What about you??
@@brizzle3903
I JUST ASKED YOU A QUESTION, FRIZZLE BRAIN.
I'm a fishing boat
@@tiffsaver Yes, you said it better than I just did! D'oh! Lol! But yeah, land the darn plane ASAP! I wonder how much quicker they could have landed if they just headed staight for halifax on that 2nd puff of smoke. What if's I know, but this urgency should be built into the procedures. My heart aches for all those people & their unimaginable suffering.
I can't believe such an incredible electrical overload ever had the opportunity to occur. An excess of maybe 5 or 10 times the current rating of a cable is required to heat a cable to red heat like that. Where were the fuses? Arcing? Heating & cooling?
This was rushed & because of this, hundreds died. So amateur. So tragic. It should never have happened.
HB-IWF / SR-111 Disaster - then the 9/11 terror event with very limited Operation and the whole following SR grounding plus bankrupsy, was at the end too much of bad decisions and events, that Swissair had sadly no chance in survive. Only SRT the former swissair Maintenance survived in a very rough envirement. God bless all the victims and their relatives. ❤
GRATE‼️ ya☝️
When you have fire on a plane, you put it down immediately. I can’t believe the captain messed around like this. He could have been safely on the ground. So terribly terribly sad.
The air traffic controller did his job, the captain blew it.
I would have commenced dumping fuel the very second it was determined we had a fire onboard and i would have dumped as much fuel as possible ON THE WAY TO THE AIRPORT and taken my chances on whether it was enough. There is NO WAY I would have circled around dumping fuel when there's a fire raging on my plane.
100% agreed
They didn’t know it was a fire until it was too late tho
@brennathecatlover4360 smoke means fire 🔥 something is burning 🔥
Is it safe to dump fuel during a fire emergency?
4:19 Funny how this seems to pop up everywhere....
They ended up coming down an awful long way from the airport, I never knew they were trying to land at our airport, the crash site is over an hour by car from the airport
The situation was out of pilots control extremely quickly. That being said, when they realized a safe landing at Halifax seems increasingly impossible due to various technical and physical factors, they really should change their mind. If they had done so, many lives could be saved.
Gone to jail at $2 dollars an hour. He was better-off being a bar-tender
You realize this was in the 90s in another country? Gas back then in the US was not even $1 a gallon 😂
To say I really like looking at plane crashes but all my classmates said :-How are you not terrified after all that ?
Me saying : Oh I prepare myself for this just in case cuz yeah I will be a pilot .
Other classmate said that she wants to be a pilot too but everyone said : I think she(me) will be a pilot maybe you won’t be you don’t know anything about planes ✈️ but she ( me ) know better than you
I saw with a smile on my face that I knew my classmates will stand beside me of becoming a pilot ❤
Pray that pilots don’t have to write anything.
If such a Situation like here where they dump the fuel and the fire makes them may move out of their Pilotseat or even the cockpit, will then all the fuel completely dumped, if it won't switched off manually?? Thank you
My dad worked cleanup in navy and said in the first 24 hours they ran out of body bags because they had to bag each individual part and every body was divided, sad really
TMI
It’s quite amazing how many “” mysteries there are considering the fact that these supposedly trained in individuals and the aircraft itself are gone through with a fine tooth comb, and yet these amazing amount of mysteries 😊
Is that one air traffic controller Joey Jeremiah? 😄
I can't imagine being a passenger on these planes and watching the ocean getting closer and closer, knowing you're gonna crash into the ocean, facing imminent death. How horrific!
People was happy bro trust me because you are going on better place for ever.
@@markomesic6719 Don't be cruel for attn.
Those poor people, how horrifying
Wow. 600 centigrade is 1100!
Rest in peace
You have 902 plane crashing videos and in every video you say it was the worst crash ever known.
These are reuploads from the mayday series, wonder did not make these
@dbzdrag0n that's irrelevant .
@@dbzdrag0nthey're speaking to the people who made it
ANOTHER golden oldie.
Oldie indeed.
Still not enough compensation for such horrific deaths.
If weather plainly clear that definitively will be a help factor , right here fire blazes bored down the whole system so that did not ease off the situation . I guess the crew were not vigilent enough as they skeptically knew about some doubts , sometimes conflagration will disquiet breathing so this cause trepidation and fretfulness to the crew and consequently it might cause erroneously a falsed decisions
For lost of height and speed I would suggest the app gaia to be use by pilots at least they will have indication of their height and speed. I have tried many times when I am flying and it does not need data
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Brand new episodes? I'll wait and see, since you've just been uploading OLD videos non stop. Including this one.
Brand new as in created post 1/1/2019?
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@@desertstar223 I hope they show Tarom 371 eventually
@@desertstar223 11
Why is the sound mix of the actual episode in mono...??? 🙃
That is so tough to watch. So very sad. 46:22
It’s cos towards the end no one in the cockpit was flying the plane. The captain left his seat fighting the fire. The F/O was likely unconscious. The autopilot was disconnected and primary flight displays failed due to the fire. So at the end the plane was left on its own.
I worked on pitot-static systems for 23 years in the Air Force. If we taped anything we had to put a RED X entry in the forms.
In the back of my mind, knowing that the circulating fan towards the rear was pulling the fire towards the back, would it have changed the outcome if the cabin bus remained on?
Definitely. By leaving the cabin bus on, smoke won’t enter the cockpit all at once causing the autopilot and primary flight displays to fail. Unfortunately turning the cabin bus off was one of the checklist items they were performing at that time.
@@christopherzhao3135 I get it. Basically they sealed their own fate by following the checklist rather than landing immediately.
@@RaisedLetter that being said, the reason why captain Sully was a true hero is because he did his job as a CAPTAIN. He wasn’t fixated on the best possible outcome (returning to an airport). Instead his situational awareness and decision making was superb. He was constantly analyzing the situation at hand and willing to change his mind. If that plane was flown by captain of Swissair 111, I believe the outcome will be very different.
3:47 --12 cabin crew for 215 passengers? Amazing! What do we have these days? 2 cabin crew with attitudes for 215 passengers... I remember enjoying flying back in the 60s/70s/80s. Now you have to be young and healthy to "barely" survive a plane trip.
That lawyer at the end who sued Boeing for what they had nothing to do with makes my skin crawl
The buckwark behind cockpit mightbe responsable for this fretful or trepidated accident , once the captain leaned over to check the flames , the fo became trepidated and disquieted
Damn😢
Safety is the most important thing. Planes should be simpler. Have fewer wires, fewer buttons and more safety plans like injector seats with parachutes for every passanger incase of impact they can fly out the plane before it crashes.
Seriously. Why do they put unnecessary buttons and wires on planes? All it has to do is fly.
@@Kunfucious577 You both must be children right? The entire point for all these "unnecessary buttons" are the exact reason you DON'T die on every flight. Every single meticulous feature of a commercial aircraft is built and designed in blood. That's why they are the safest form of transportation. I could go on a rant on how much of a dunce you must be to not exercise even a hint of basic critical thinking skills. I legitimately can't comprehend how you can type out that thought without any further thinking. So here; The planes crash because the systems and electronics go out, right? So when that's the case, how does your brain think "oh maybe we should just get rid of the electronics then, clearly they're unnecessary" like bro that idea is the exact reason why planes crash. I'm just gonna hope you're joking and I wasted my time.
Do you know how dangerous it is to eject from a plane? The majority of passengers couldn't handle those forces.
@xXxSapphir3xXx it can be done. People on top just do not put research and development on safety features like each seat having a egg shell capsule with a parachute in it.
This just one of the many reasons i will not fly even though I’ve heard it said many times that flying is safer than driving well there’s practically danger in anything and in things we do as we go about our lives nowadays I still prefer taking my chances driving rather then taking a risk at flying I didn’t know anyone on this flight and unfortunately happened many years ago my prayers and condolences to the families and friends for their sudden unexpected loss of a dear loved one (s) my heart goes out to them all and to all the people who perished rest in eternal peace in paradise
Driving is a lot safer if you do have an accident your chances of survival are still very high. But if you count plane crashes, then the chances of surviving are almost zero
😱😳😱 OMG!!?😢🤧 😢🤧 This is horrible!🤧😢🤧lord have mercy 😢 this is horrible!!🤧😢
Pilots should be tested/checked for any drugs/narcotic meds/alcohol right before each flight. I dated a pilot and many are alcoholics due to such a stressful job.
I think they are. What’s wrong with drinking on the ground?
You dated a pilot, & you don't know that they ALREADY are?! It's well-known that many pilots- some of them --have a problem with alcohol.
So you dated one pilot who had an alcohol problem. That doesn't mean they all do. And besides, they have to get recertification every so often. Smh
@@772amanda237 His buddies all did too! He even said it’s common.
He should have landed when he had the chance! And not tried to dump the fuel 🤦🏾♀️🙁
You a pilot.
it was a 50/50 decision.. i assume you are right but when a pilot chooses to dump fuel its to be able to even land. Planes are only fueled for the flight they take so they land with almost no fuel. This make its massively easier to land aswell as avoiding an all-consuming explosive crash landing with full tanks. He made a decision that i cant fault him for. He had no idea how long time he had or if the fire was even around the controls at all. His thinking was that since there were a fire "somewhere" he had to get rid of fuel, asap to avoid it combusting. then they can glide a landing. But they simply did not have enough time.
according to the TSB report, even if he had not dumped fuel, the plane still would have crashed,They had no idea how serious the problem was when it first happened. There was no way for them to know.
@@Rayflower352 yep, i think i also read that even if they would have been flying back to hallifax as soon as the smoke or it's smell were noticable to them, without dumping fuel or anything else, they still wouldn't have had enough time to make it. they were doomed as soon as the fire developed and sadly there was nothing the pilots could have done that would've changed the outcome.
@@technobrain666 weren't they still flying 15 minutes or more after they declared pan pan pan? They were originally 30 mi from Halifax right?
This is probably a dumb question. I'm sorry in advance. Why aren't planes equipped with some kind of air bag system? I'm thinking it has to do with added weight and the fact that some people aren't seated at all times, like the flight attendances for instance. But, isn't there something, anything that can be invented? Just wondering. 😞
Yeah too many logistics and at the speed of this crash it would not have helped.
A major problem: They said the plane hit the water with the force of 350 Gs (46:15). No wonder it broke into pieces!
How fast is 350 Gs ? 350 miles an hours?
@@daviddavis3389550 kph
And why don't they make the tape bright orange bright yellow if they have to cover the tubes for any reasons the tape should be visible from space
Even if maybe they tripled the special tape or duct tape when tearing it off, and left 2/3 hanging down, then they could see it better if it got forgotten.
How about an emergency maintenance crew onboard to deal with these distractions🧐
Way it hit the water, angle/speed.. Cockpit must’ve been completely out… but the Passengers were likely all awake until the water ! Crazy… Sad…
The spar or the jib of stabilizers would get broken because fireflames was going to grind the wires and everything
Building structures, like shopping centers, hospitals... has a long red pipes with smoke sensors that striked by smoke & immediately spray water , that system can't be installed along the aeroplane loom?
Beats hitting a mountain
I don't know....Might be faster hitting a mountain at 400mph.
I lived near moncton
Bill ATC did all he could and did it correctly
Bill did his best. Even though he missed a transmission from the captain but that’s no big deal. It’s the pilot of flight 111 failed to recognize the severity of the situation in the first place that let everyone down. So I blame this accident on the flight crew rather than the fire emergency or ATC. Lack of situational awareness and critical decision making sealed the fate for all 229 souls on board.
I smell dire incompetence and am using the kindest words. Forgetfulness, confusion ,carelessness, utter disregard of a fire. What do they think was burning steak ?
The fight deck was unaware of the additional wiring for the in-flight entertainment system. Some idiot installed it incorrectly. And it was designed incorrectly.
We used to have six or more people in a single cockpit all pulling their weight and doing work; now it's all left to two to three people swamped with work and with a load of hardly functioning error-prone computers in the hope of the aircraft reaching the next airport without death.
It is so incompetent of these airlines to not train their maintenence workers on things they should and shouldn't do. They should know the consequences and even what a crash would look like due to that. Sometimes, seeing the destruction and dead bodies covered up, is the only thing that will sink in and never be forgotten again!
I have a question, could you intentionally unpressurize the plane to put out a fire?? The fire needs oxygen and there wouldn't be much up there . The passengers and pilots can use the masks for a few minutes..
Hate to say it but that’s ridiculous. Why would you add depressurization to the list of problems to deal with?.
@@Kunfucious577 I'm not sure if you are familiar with how an aircraft works but the pressurization has nothing to do with the plane and how it flies, it's only for the use of the humans. So my theory would be depressurize the plane, that would trigger the oxygen masks to come down. The masks will provide oxygen to the humans while denying the fire the oxygen it needs to burn. So being that they didn't make it doing it the other way, why would you say this theory is ridiculous? And just so you know I am a pilot.
If you were a pilot you'd know that oxygen masks leak and would still oxygenate the surrounding area
@@xXxSapphir3xXx in the plane I fly the oxygen only pumps if you are inhaling, I'm not sure how it works on the airlines. And even if it pumps constantly, the amount of free oxygen would probably be about 90% less
stay safe at home
Some investors already belief there are more planes in the water than in the air already… it would take us more than a life time to watch a documentary about every crash that happened if every crash would have been documented in details
Many experts believe there is more lost money in the ground than in circulation...I would not know..😅
Another big problem: WHEN DID IT EXPLODE?? They show it splash intact beneath the waves (26:30)!
Jesus they do not give up on trying to figure a crash out eh
I never gave flying a second thought. I 'hopped' from Sandy Eggo to LA, or whereever, with all the trust in the world, never, ever, even considering that any danger or malfunctions, organic or inorganic, might be an issue. I even put my beloved boys, about 7 and 8 years old, on a flight from Boise to Atlanta, without a thought that the [invaluable] Attendants would look after them; the aircraft was sound; and everyone would do their job, and beyond, when needed.
The mechanics, electricians, & all whose job was to make the aircraft safe & sound, did their jobs perfectly.
The flight crew would b perfect.
Of these things I had faith & confidance.
Thank God, they all did. My babies flew clear across America, twice, & thanks to so many consciencous people, doing their jobs well, i got my babies back.
Thank YOU (plural). All of you.
So what happens to the guy who put the tape on there?
He was jailed for his negligence
With over two thousand ocean crossings with a major Is airline all positions. The word fire is a serious word on an aircraft. Is dumping fuel just goes right out the window. You need to land and you'll take your chances. Now...
If Pan Pan Pan means Mayday then why would an airline call themselves Pan Am? I know this was about Swiss Air but still, I have to wonder. Many condolences to the families of those who lose their lives in these tradgedies. The only salvagable thing about them is that they are always learning what not to do again. However the cost is not worth the lesson.
@christopherpaolino9607 I think OP's point/question still stands. Thanks for your help though...
@@faile66exactly.
Pan pan pan is not the same as mayday but some airlines use call signs, such as Pan Am. Pan Am flight 103 for example would be "clipper 103" so it wouldnt really ever be an issue.
@@ak416thank you. That’s interesting.
Good point. I was wondering the same thing.. Not a very sound name for an aircraft company that names itself after 'trouble'...or can be mistaken as such..
4.05 Stephanie Shaw wasn't suppose to be on that flight.Mark Rosset a tennis player cancelled his ticket so she took his seat
My parents were involved in a plane airbus that went down over the Portuguese islands and I believe 2000, all because they put the wrong part into the engine,lucky for them they had an amazing flight crew flying that plane they made it onto one of the islands,all I have to say is double check everything on an aircraft before it takes off,I know I worked for Boeing for 27 years!!! CHECK YOUR STUFF!!!!!
I always get a kick out of armchair "experts" deciding what the pilots "SHOULD HAVE DONE" -- When these experts have weeks to run through the options at their leisure and pick their favorite "should haves".
All those people still remain dead.
I have had to make instant decisions based solely on what I knew at that exact moment in time...Many while driving a car. In retrospect, knowing what I knew long after the fact was meaningless at that instant in the time of the need to act.
It seems to me there used to be a lot of pressure on pilots to follow policy and maintain schedules over a safety first and safety above all attitude. I'm not a pilot, but my instinct would be to land when there might be fire on board. We know there's limited oxygen at high altitudes, but to land you'll go through areas of progressively higher oxygen, fueling the fire.
@@xXxSapphir3xXx ......The human error factor cannot be eliminated. Be it pilots, maintenance people, fuelers, baggage handlers, the companies that manufacture various parts, and those that produces the fuel...Then over time -in-use, there's component part failure.
Anything traveling at a high velocity (like cars) or against gravity (like aircraft), or on water for that matter, will get people killed.
Many have died from just running as fast as they can.
Nobody makes it out of life alive in the long run.
Let people have their conversations and f-ing relax. It's RUclips.
@@sle_epytight Let people have their conversations and f-ing relax. It's RUclips.
Maybe put flood lights on a plane so they can see below at night with terrain warning? I'm not a plane designer, but then they could have seen the water?
Some people do share that connection of knowing they lost a loved one. I did