When the kid Said “hey why is it turning” the captain should’ve gotten right back to his seat and taken control immediately . Even if they were confused with the situation. 🙃 unbelievable..
@@davedoesthingsdreaded even if they dont sit in the chair they can still push all kinds of buttons in the cealing, turning off hydraulics and what not. That cockpit door should be locked at all time
After watching several air disasters docus I came to realize pilots tend to trust the plane too much. They even have an official aviation term for this excessive trust (I forgot what that term is called). The capitain here probably assumed nothing bad would happen.
They speak of all the reasons this happened and how this all could have been avoided.....however, no matter how you slice it, the father had no business letting kids take the pilot seat.
Did you not watch the video. All pilots around the world didn't have the proper training for dealing with unusual bank angles and the autopilot. Training has been revolutionized since. It wasn't just one man's decision. If anything he helped exposed a deficiency that would've caused more accidents.
@@chukwudiilozue9171 What's the point of allowing the kid to sit in the seat if you're just gonna ruin it by freaking out if somethings a little off. Better to wait so as to not ruin the nice family moment. Have some empathy
I can't understand why the captain didn't IMMEDIATELY take control the minute he knew something was wrong while there was yet time. This crash is unbelievable. I could see the captain letting the kids come to the door and look at the cockpit but to let them sit in his seat and take the controls is purely insane.
There was a 9 second window to adjust and fix the problem. In those 9 seconds, he and his copilot were confused by something that doesn't happen in Russian planes and that they were not briefed on: one of the screens reported that they were suddenly above an airport, which would be ridiculous.
From what I've seen from a comment, when the pilot's daughter was the one flying, she was just holding the stick, when it was the son's turn, he pushed on the stick which turned off the auto-pilot. This was probably what the pilot were confused at. Then it was too late when the plane started turning all over the place since the pilot couldnt take over due to the Gs. Since the cockpit doesnt have it's own anti-gravity, the Pilot was definitely tumbling all over the cockpit to even take over
@@chikin6146 Well the kid says "Why is it turning." And his dad, the Capt, asks "Is it turning by itself?" And the kid says "Yes it is." Right then he should've said "Get up without touching anything and let me have it." Well, I'ts what I would've done but honestly, I'd never allow my kids to turn the plane in the first place. And, maybe the video here doesn't represent how it actually happened because in the video he has plenty of time to take the controls. Maybe in real life it played out much faster than it did in the video.
What about the copilot? Didn't have both hands on controls in the first minute of the emergency. Fighting the autopilot, neither pilot mentions the aileron disengaged auto-pilot light.
Did you not watch the video. All pilots around the world didn't have the proper training for dealing with unusual bank angles and the autopilot. Training has been revolutionized since. It wasn't just one man's decision. If anything he helped exposed a deficiency that would've caused more accidents.
@@ohh2752 ~ Yes, exactly! The airline should have trained all pilots to this new technology, and the fact that the alarm would not sound to alert them that something was wrong, etc! It's freakin common sense that they should have!!! I just don't get it!! The plane was clearly recoverable if the pilots were trained correctly in the first place!!
Can you imagine watching children walk into the cockpit and then a couple minutes later the plane starts bank? There is definitely dark humor in that. Whoever witnessed the kids going into the cockpit were probably thinking _"Ah sh*t, I knew it!"_
@@MilesL.auto-train4013 It's not a 15-year-old's fault for failing to deal with a situation that he absolutely NEVER should have been in, that the qualified adults (including his guardian) had multiple opportunities to keep him out of. Nor is it his fault for accidentally activating functionality of the plane that not even the trained pilots were aware of. The children are victims. The adults that could and should have stopped the situation before it started, on the other hand...
I am heartbroken for the mother. She lost both of her children and her husband due to her husband's unbelievably idiotic actions. I can't even begin to imagine how that must feel.
Yeah, as soon as I realized he was taking all their kids I was horrified, realizing what that meant. Seeing that kids smile I couldn't help but smile back, remembering what was about to happen took that away really quick. If I was her I might wish I'd been on the plane too, I don't know how I could go one if I suffered a loss that great all at once.
Ignoring the fact he let his kids fiddle with the controls, the fact they seemingly saved the plane only to be way too low and crash anyways is extremely sad.
It's one thing to allow children into the cockpit, but they should have never been allowed to sit in the pilot's seat and have access to the controls. In that sense, the fault lies clearly on the pilot.
I disagree. In this case he had the autopilot on so (he thought) the boy couldn't do anything, and even if he did they are high in the sky and should have plenty of time to recover. Now this was very unlucky that they weren't aware of this hidden feature of the plane they made them fail to recover the plane. But in 99 cases out of 100 this should never had become a dangerous situation even with a kid sitting in the captain's chair for a couple of minutes. But performing open body surgery on a patient? There is no auto pilot for that and no room for error either. One wrong cut and the patient is dead. So no, that would be way more irresponsible than what these guys did, even if it did turn out disastrous
He shouldn't have let the kids into the cockpit, he did. He shouldn't have let them sit in the pilot's seat, he did. He shouldn't have let them touch anything, he did. He shouldn't have left him unattended without closely monitoring, he did. Even the co-pilot wasn't monitoring. He should have immediately jumped into his seat, he didn't. Oh god!
I’ve been on a binge of these. And they are almost always tragic. But this one hits differently. Malfunctions, weather, maintenance negligence, communication errors happen a lot. This was so easily avoidable and such gross negligence. I’m so sorry for the people who died because of the captain and first in command. So very sorry. It doesn’t matter how much they spin it. It was the captains fault. Not the kids. Not the uncles’. It was the captain. Period.
@@FentanylDYST Even the program itself made it sound like it was the kids’ fault. Absolutely not. It’s not a family reunion in the cockpit. It’s a job where the Captain is responsible for hundreds of lives. No one else is to blame.
"It's not the crew's fault!" Yes it was! By allowing those children to pretend to fly that plane the crew allowed it to crash. I was surprised that there was no audio alarm to announce when the auto-pilot was partially disengaged and eventually it would have bit someone else, so that definitely needed to be addressed. However, to simply let go and let the plane fly itself would have gone against ANY pilot in a crisis situation. The saddest thing about this whole incident is that poor child probably died knowing he had doomed everyone on that aircraft.
Exactly. There should be two independent indicators of autopilot disengagement, dash lights and sound alert. The sound alert should be a voice saying "autopilot disengaged"
@@AORD72 Totally agree, however the Pilot would have known that he "was fighting the autopilot for 30 secs" He would not have thought "it's turning by itself!"
Well "luckily" when such a young person is in deathly danger they are usually fully preoccupied with their own peril and there is not much capacity for any derivative abstract thinking about their responsiblity for someone else peril.
Out of all of the plane crashes I've binge-watched so far, this one makes my blood boil the most. Not only because the pilot just handed over the lives of all passengers on board to his teenage kids, but also because of the lack of blame towards the pilots and the boy. Yeah something's wrong with the plane, but at the hands of an experienced pilot they had a much higher chance of survival. All that boy could do for a few minutes straight was following simple instructions of turning left or right...
I dont understand your point of view - kid done nothing wrong (to captains knowledge) because the autopilot was on. The fact that autopilot disconected without any alarm and started turning the plane listening to Kid's inputs - that was the main problem. They were baffled because they didnt expect anything of that matter to happen. Imagine sitting at the Driver seat of your family car when you are 12.. Obviously you are not driving, the car is stationary; but imagine now suddenly car starts to drive and turn when its not supposed to. You would be confused as well.
@@YurandX the point is those teenage kids had no business being at the controls or in the pilot's seat of a commercial passenger plane! Even if the plane got an issue, the pilot didn't get an opportunity to personally intervene irrespective of the outcome! Just a "few" minutes lost in a plane emergency dramatically impact the outcome! Since pilot put those kids there, the lives lost were on his head. Also what is a 12 year old doing in the driver's seat of a car? Most of them might attempt to try out something while there. And if something suddenly went wrong are they equipped to respond in an appropriate & timely manner?
@@YurandX Why didn't they know? Seems like inadequate training to me. Or perhaps they were told, but because it's not what they were used to they forgot. In any event, the plane wouldn't have crashed with the autopilot behaving as it was, if a kid wasn't flying the plane. The plane still would have crashed with the kid flying, even without the autopilot. It is 100% the fault of the crew allowing a child to fly a passenger jet, and no one else.
Not uncommon to see this in some cultures. I've seen kids that looked like 10 in driver's seat on a public road. With the rest of the family in the car. Not a big leap from that to this, just a matter of access if the mentality and culture are there.
I'm afraid to hand my xbox controller to a kid let alone the control of a car or an airplane. Very few 15 year olds have a mature mindset probably 0.01%. The average kid today is very stupid and their minds are mush.
I think it's BS and the Russian government didnt want to reveal the pilots were incapacitated by vodka. They would have sobered up just in time for the landing in Hong Kong. A kid feeling the yoke couldnt bring down a plane with two senior 10 000 hour pilots on board, no way.
@@user2kffs Yeah but, men drink. To have revealed that as the reason would be less embarrassing than coming out with a story such as this. To say that a kid was in control of a multi million dollar machine would be far more damning and would not help their image one bit. These pilots were sober, but no matter what letting a kid even into the pit was a mistake. I think he did more than just feel the yoke, he did maneuver it. We will never know for sure.
I am truly convinced that this wasn’t the first time that this particular pilot had his son sitting in a pilot seat and allowed to manipulate controls while the plane was flying. The mother did mention that the kids frequently traveled with their father.
A pilot having a little too much confidence in underdeveloped technology? Nah...90s sounds bout right lol people were more careful in the earlier days u dummy
@@ohh2752 You’re right! Most of big airplane disasters happened when technology was grown in earlier days of flying industry pilots were very careful just like a new driver fears of accidents so he drive very carefully everytime.
Alex S. I have flown since 1958. In the early years of my life I flew 2 to 4 times every year. I was never ever afraid until 10 or so years ago when we had EXTREME TURBULENCE on the way from Wisconsin to Colorado and back. It was HORRENDOUS ❗😱❗🙏🙏🙏 I have noticed that many of the Jets are OLD and LOUD. THEY DEFINITELY ARE DIRTIER THAN THEY WERE THAT'S FOR SURE❗❗😱🙏❗❗
I have flown since 1958. In the early years of my life I flew 2 to 4 times every year. I was never ever afraid until 10 or so years ago when we had EXTREME TURBULENCE on the way from Wisconsin to Colorado and back. It was HORRENDOUS ❗😱❗🙏🙏🙏 I have noticed that many of the Jets are OLD and LOUD. THEY DEFINITELY ARE DIRTIER THAN THEY WERE THAT'S FOR SURE❗❗😱🙏❗❗
Just because they're your kids doesn't give you the right to put them in a position that could kill everyone onboard. Sure they didn't intend to mess up, but that doesn't change the fact that everyone is dead, right? Absolutely reckless and selfish!
Exactly. If you actually want them to fly a plane to learn some stuff or something.. atleast bring the child to a simulator… not an actual plane WITH ACTUAL PEOPLE. Besides it doesnt matter if they didnt intend to mess up. It was expected. I mean, the kids dont even have any knowledge about the controls etc, let alone flying a literal plane with REAL PEOPLE
The moment the captain’s son notified him of trouble, the captain should have gotten back in his captain seat. That portion of the mishap was the most bizarre!
Exactly and the kid would've gladly gotten out of the seat long before any gravity weighed him down. But instead he had to be screamed at by his dad over something he had no control over.
I think, he believed the auto pilot was still on, so for him it was impossible for it to bank that far. It confused him and before he can sit back the gravity pin him down already. As it was revealed the later part of the video, the auto pilot was already partially off for a while, the moment they noticed the banking it was seconds to recovery.
@@AkoSiFrance no. It was tough love. He wanted Elder to pull the plane out of the bank , that's why he didn't return to the seat. Russia has pride of family, you don't understand
I am cabin crew. I do a prayer in my mind before every flight take off and landing.I still can’t believe a pilot would allow a child (or anyone!) to sit in his seat and touch any controls.
I grew up in the 1980's and my father was an airline exec. I used to sit jump seat in the cockpit every once in awhile, and I was taught how to fly on a 737 simulator by the airline's chief pilot. I cannot believe he let his kid sit in the pilots seat, this is so irresponsible.
This was in the years before the changes to cockpit access after the events of 9/11, so before that in prior decades, access to the cockpit was a fairly regular occurrence with children being allowed into the cockpit and rules were extremely lax. However that doesn’t excuse the events that happened due to the captains negligence and likewise the rest of the flight crew.
@@10191927 when I was a kid in like 2010, I don't know the exact year, but definitely after 9/11, they allowed me to go in the cockpit without any issues. Obviously, they weren't stupid and allowed me to sit in the seats. I'm not sure how relaxed pilots are now, but I know that some pilots allow kids to see the cockpit from time to time.
He didn't let Eldar fly the plane, though. The plane yielded partial control over to Eldar and the crew wasn't notified. It's not as if his father was like "here, kid. Get us to china."
All these years since I first read about this incident while researching for a paper during my college, I still cannot believe how it happened. Absolutely ridiculous actions.
@shizzyna As some who grew up in UsssR let me explain: it is not that all Russians break rules but let’s take a simple DUI. In Russia if only 30% of drivers drive drunk you are going to have huge consequences versus Western Europe where less then 5 % DUI.
@Rayeed Raihan and I'm wondering ( considering your comments and your account is only 10 months old) how at age 8 you got your experience .. real life of because you only live 8 miles from airport and watch planes? You know sarcasm doesn't translate well in comment form .. right?
This is like if a surgeon let their kid operate on their patient as a "learning experience." When peoples lives are in your hands, you don't gamble with their lives by treating their lives as an educational lesson.
These stories are so utterly heart breaking. They bring tears to my eyes. The deceased were simply living their lives & just doing what they loved most, spending time with their nearest & dearest. And now, their loved ones must move forth without their presence. May all who've died RIP. My belated condolences, sent to all respective families of the deceased.
The point was that they weren't able to sleep, that's why he took them to the cockpit. If the children had been asleep this all wouldn't have happened.
@@amberrose1108 Well from then the father's role started to give their kids' an experience, believing all that he was taught in the training. It's a parental instinct I'd say. The only seeming inexplainable blunder is that, when the kid reported an issue, why not take controls immediately, regardless of the severity of the problem?
I can’t even imagine the pain of the wife and mother of the pilot “responsible” for this absolutely tragic crash. Can you imagine loosing your entire family at once plus many other people died… and how some people might have treated her? Omg. I just hope so bad that mom has found peace.
weird you don't try to imagine what all the families of those murderers must feel , she can be only ashamed what they have done to innocent people, you sound as smart as the pilot in that tragedy so I'm not expecting you to see why your comment looks dumb, you have compassion of a potato if that woman is the one to feel bad for , and the fact that you wrote responsible in quotation marks only proves what I just wrote
@@evamicaelagaleanogonzalez3480 I blame everyone in the cockpit for the tragedy. The mom maybe also. Neither kid showed enough judgment to refuse to fly the plane and it's obvious that the dad had zero sense. Shame they didn't get any sense from the mom, either.
It was all because that idiot brought the children into the cockpit and then their father was more concerned with impressing his children than the safety of all the passengers. Ridiculous!
@@ronakknikam To be fair it isn't actually unique to Russia. There were three cases of kids being allowed into a cockpit to manipulate the controls here in the states, though in those cases, it didn't lead to disaster.
This is scary in so many ways. How did none of the pilots realize the kid was banking the plane? It blows my mind. Didn't anybody look at the instruments? Nobody felt anything?
From what I gathered from the video, the Russian pilots flew Russian planes which would sound an alarm every time auto pilot got disengaged, this new plane however does not sound alarm - to add to the confusion only a part of the auto pilot was disengaged while everything else remained, giving an illusion auto pilot was still working fine. Essentially they had 1 minute to react to a situation they legitimately thought was impossible, think about that, try reacting to a situation you can't comprehend to even being a possibility, they checked that off as not being as issue because of the reasons stated and probably tried finding other reasons for the confusion. This all comes back to one simple thing - lack of proper training given to the pilots in this new aircraft, honestly if it wasn't them, I don't see how another crew or them wouldn't eventually get struck by tragedy if a whole company let their pilots continue flying with no knowledge of these very major changes to the aircraft. Core issue was actually lack of communication/training on the major changes, then the child being seated in my view, although of course the children being let in the seats was absurd and just sped up the road to a tragedy.
It was simply too fast to react situation. The only thing I can give to the youngest pilot was the time he managed to pull it up, he overcorrected out of panic with the result to stall the plane. There is no excuse for a pilot to stall a plane because they are trained to always keep an eye to the climb rate. There is a chance however his previous experience with Russian airplanes to often not having reliable readings from the instruments and had to rely more on vision, but I doubt that was the case.
Exactly. The auto-pilot will fly the plane. That's what it's designed to do. You can only fly the plane manually if you switch it off completely. Either, or.
What astonishes me the most is the flagrant disregard on the part of the flight crew of the most fundamental aviation principles drilled into pilots from day one: Aviate, Navigate, Communicate. The fact that these pilots were focusing on the “holding pattern” while the aircraft was banking beyond its design limitations is just unpardonable. They failed to aviate.
@@kayakaziloqo7297 I know right. This whole thing is incredibly stupidity. Maybe the work had become too much routine like to the pilots so they thought that nothing can go wrong, even if the teenager is let to "experience" things a bit.
Man car is fine, open area, only 3 pedals to be seen, if something happens anyone can pull the hand brake. But this is a fu*k*ng plane, nobody should even touch the controls except the pilots.
Lolz, yep. I kinda love that, tbh. The fact that no matter how much you plan and prepare, something new and shiny will go horribly wrong and part of me loves that for some weird reason.
Yep. Taking an introductory computer science class at university, and they have repeated in the notes they provide us with "user dumb, you (the programmer) smart". The systems should've been designed for user error, maybe something where both pilots would need to hold buttons on their yokes for a few seconds.
Mine isn't a life threatening example of said what can go wrong will go wrong , we were at the in-laws for the weekend . My father in-law was the accountant for a small drs. Office,he had his personal/work computer at home... At night he let ME ! A very inexperienced computer person play some games on it while they turned in early , left me saying don't worry about anything, you'd never be able to mess anything up😳🙄😢 ok well I wasn't all that thrilled with my performance on the games and tried to simply shut the computer off. I woke up the next day to hear that I had messed up a whole bunch of files and that it took him several hours to get back on track... Oh that was in the 90s and ever since I've come to realize that I am not good with technology, I've had many other incidents with computers after... Tablets and cell phones nothing , but home computers have totally messed up. Anyway, just gringed seeing the kids take the captain's seat, not so much the girl,cause she was smart and listened to her Dad, and realized that it was her dad in control. Sonny Boy however ohoh. Of course I don't blame the kid, he did what I would have done... But my dad would never have let me take the captain's seat. Sit on his lap maybe... So sad that airoplanes seem to be mass killers.
Profoundly unprofessional behavior. Even in a tiny private plane you'd still be at the wheel ready to say "let go!" at a moments notice. But to even engage in this kind of thing in a commercial flight? Unbelievable.
I can agree but the pilots did not know that fighting the ailerons would disable the autopilot. Ofc you shouldn’t let a child fly, but you can’t blame the pilots for not knowing the features of the autopilot.
@@blondknight99 She's also human. That doesn't make her losses any less painful. 💔 While yes, irresponsible actions were taken that ultimately resulted in this tragedy, she is also dealing with the public blame of her husband and son in all of this. I can't even imagine her pain. My heart truly goes out to her. ❤️
I’m stuck between loving that there are so many of these that I can binge watch, and sad because it means disasters like this have happened so many times 😭😭😭
When I was 6. This was before 9/11, while the plane was cruising. I remember a long flight to Australia, the pilot allowed kids into the cockpit. He and the co pilot remained in their seats and we weren't allowed to touch anything but the joy was seeing out the cockpit windows. It's a very different view from a side window. This show reminded me of that moment
I was a single mom, flying on a smallish navy operational plane with my two boys, about 6 and 8 years old. This was about 30 years ago. My sons and I had "caught a hop" while I was stationed overseas, in the Philippines. Just myself , my kids and the crew were on the plane. My kids were each given an opportunity to sit in the pilot seat and place hands on the controls and fly the plane. Very frightening... I'm pretty sure that would not be allowed today!
@@cmcmahon8551 yep. When I was a kid they allowed the same thing. That was probably 35 years ago. As a kid I thought it was great but now, I'm kinda horrified.
Back in the day, mid eighties, unacompanied minors (UM) were sometimes allowed to take a look in the cockpit mid flight. But the highlight was to hand over the coffee or glass of water to the pilot normaly being served by a steward(ess). Not to ‘fly’ the plane. I guess KLM, Sabena, British Airways and PanAm were not into the ‘let the kid sit in the pilot’s seat’ thing.
I can’t with this lack of blame. Great they now know the autopilot can partially disconnect. Back to the main point, had those kids not been in the cockpit, DRIVING, this wouldn’t have happened. They literally said the 15 year old threw it out of autopilot. This was 100% the cockpit crews fault. There’s no way around it.
@@tiaracaudill yes you’re right which there is something I could do to make them happy I’m Richard from Keene NH but I live in Germany nice to meet you Tiara where are you from
Things were verrrry lax pre-911, including in the US. I worked for a US airline throughout the 1990s, and was once invited to ride in the cockpit when I boarded a flight as a passenger. I had no business sitting up in the flight deck jumpseat (I was only a gate agent), but rode up there anyway just for the experience (which was amazing). Also, whenever I was flying out somewhere, I used to board our aircraft at the maintenance hangar, and ride over to the gate on the plane. Which means...my luggage and I didn't go through the security checkpoint - I could have brought anything on that plane that I wanted to - yeesh. I did this dozens of times. So yeah - it's scary to think of how loose operations were back then. Thankfully, I meant no harm and always behaved myself. And no...I won't name the airline out of respect for people I care about who still work there, lol.
Now that you mention this story, I remember something similar happening to me back in the 90s in a plane with my cousin and my aunt. We were in a national flight in Colombia. He always wanted to become a pilot (and he eventually did) and he asked permission to go to the cockpit and they let him. He stayed there until we landed. Of course they didn’t allow him to do anything other than just to sit and watch. But it was very cool for him. I’d say he was about 13 or so.
@@Powerranger-le4up you are correct that they didn't allow me to "do" anything in the flight deck, but the fact that I had full access to the cockpit, and the ability to bring anything on the plane that I wanted, was very dangerous in terms of security. There was so much trust back then. This was an A320 with around 150 pax on board.
This plane crash must be one of the most terrifying crashes in air crash history. Letting child to control the plane, just because he's the captain's son. Rest in peace all the people on that board🕊️
There are situations where you can't let your children come first. This was one of them. To a pilot the interest of his passengers should always come first. This pilot, no matter how intelligent, wasn't thinking healthily.
I can't believe the pilot you've trained for thousands of hours to be able to fly this jet and you're handing all of the control and lives onboard to a 15-year-old boy with no minute's flying
The pilot thought that the autopilot was still in control of the plane. Don’t forget that they were being pushed back in their seats and couldn’t move . He shouldn’t have had his kids in there yes but they didn’t touch the controls.
I flew Aeroflot in 1993. I enjoyed it , the staff were great, but I was certainly nervous. Seeing this now makes me question the unexpected false leading we experienced during that flight.
I remember hearing the actual cockpit voice recordings and it's intense and heartbreaking. If you want to just search RUclips, its there. Thank you for posting these! I really enjoy this show!
@@kyanzennaro2290 Your first sentence implies that they randomly chose an object and your second sentence says that they specifically chose the type, so you need to reform your comment.
@@Stichting_NoFa-p I see,I mean,it could have been either? Mayday episodes usually include details that eyewitnesses know or they just ask the actors to act like when they are boarding a normal flight either works and livens the experience
Here in my place the bus driver once allowed a passenger girl to drive the bus, the next day it came in the newspaper that other passengers sued the driver and the bus owner.
How can they say it wasn't the crews fault. The whole incident was the captain fault. Firstly you don't put a child on pilots seat while the the plane is in the air. It would have been nice if the plane landed and then got his son to tour the cockpit. This has taken so many life's. Even though we forgive them but this won't be forgotten by many 🥺
Well I can guess that the captian thoguht well there's three pilots in the room so it should be safe for the kids to fly for at least a little while. Sadly it's just the result of getting a little too confident, the only really annoying part from his is that he's screaming at the kid once the trouble starts even though he's the one that let it happen in the first place. The kid must've felt so horrible already.
The plane was in auto pilot so there was no need to worry because all systems we're controlled by auto whatever the child did was not at fault t.he auto pilot was faulty ..that's the bottom line ..I'm a pilot I know ..
@@kattyndlovu6122 you're not a pilot at all. The autopilot was not faulty not even a little bit. It even showed up as a red button where it said "autopilot off". The pilots should have been able to realize that the autopilot was off without any warning. But there even was a warning because the switch turned red and said it was off.
It wasn't entirely the childrens fault. The pilots weren't trained on how to recover from unexplained banking on an Airbus plane. The way they pulled up during the dive caused a stall but if they had actually let go then the system would automatically recover. And why are these pilots not trained to automatically look and verify autopilot engagement during problems cuz I swear half these crashes are due to autopilot disengagement.
These are nineties in Russia for you- it was a mess in all areas, including aviation. My parents once told me about their first and for now, their last flight- they suddenly saw the wing or something on fire and they started to panic, but then heard the voice though the speakers- "Don't worry, the pliots are sober and it's not on autopilot!" Like, usually they were drunk?! They landed after all, but it felt like hell. It was not the only child incident, I'm sure, the others just didn't lead to fatality so we'll never know about them. You want to let your son to rule? Fine, but only on earth and when there are no other people inside. I remember one of my teachers who used to tell us all of the instructions are written with blood and this is 100 % true. After this incident nobody can enter the pilot's cabin at all, while at that time it was normal for it to be opened- imagine that anyone could walk in, it's just scary. Of course Airbus construction had serious fault in it, it didn't have audo signal when auto pilot was shut down and so the pilots didn't see it was shut down. But my opinion won't change- the pilot and only the pilot is to blame from the very moment he let his son touch the controls. And the second pilot was taking photos! Photos, when they should have been watching every Eldar's step! And after all the kid, not the pilot realized something was wrong- damn overconfidence like we are skilled pilots, what can go wrong? P.S. If anything, sorry for my English.
Too many Airbus have flung themselves into the ground with the auto pilot, and now Boeing is like hold my beer with the big body 737, in a hey we know how to build aircraft bit lets see how far the 737 can go before it fails....
See that's what I dont understand. When I looked out the window because we were in alot of turbulence I was horrified to see fire coming out the engine but I showed my dad and he was like that's normal... But he was a mailman. The other engine wasn't doing that.. and the engine earlier wasn't spitting fire. Also we were being tossed everywhere. Last time I flew, landed during a storm at night. Never again.
RIP 75 souls. Unbelievably reckless. 2 pilots in the cockpit. 15 year-old in the captains seat for 3 minutes. Neither pilot watching him or ready to take control. Didn't see aileron autopilot light.
The fact that he let his kids in the pilot seat at 30k feet with over 70 souls on board is crazy, they had them turning like they just turning the steering wheel on a car, he shouldn’t of never let them kids touch the chair especially the over hype son. If he would’ve never put them in the captain seat on a plain flying then none of this would have happened and then again they learned something from this to save more people but them innocent people shouldn’t of have suffered cause he wanted to give his kids special treatment .
This is an example of poor training. The pilots didn't know: The autopilot will partially disengage if you put enough pressure on the controls while it is engaged The autopilot doesn't make a warning tone when it's partially disengaged (bad design btw) The procedures for manually recovering from an unusual attitude (huge bank angle, climb/dive angle) The Airbus has computerized flight controls that can recover from stalls on their own with no input from the pilot If anybody on the flight deck had known any one of those things this crash could have been avoided.
The worst thing is that the only thing they had to do was let go, and everything would have been fine
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When I ever so lightly tap the brake pedal in my car, cruise control turns off at once by design w/o producing a sound or an alert b/c it's intuitive that man overrides machine. However, like on that plane the cruise control light changes (in a Bimmer from green to white) after disengagement. So in my view the Airbus engineers engineered that right but the pilot training was poor. Communication problem between Westerners and Russians, who could have guessed... but no, an accidental (final) world war between them can never happen, just keep shooting.
Really takes a special type of stupid to allow a child to touch anything in the cockpit on a plane carrying passengers. Even after the son pointed out the plane was turning, they left him in the chair!
This is one of the most horrifying airline crash videos ever, not only because of the plane's behavior, but because of the shocking, careless behavior of the captain.
Basically, "It wasn't the pilots' fault. They weren't trained on how to recover from stupidly letting an untrained child crash their plane." Unbelievable. A "hero's grave." This isn't a "you weren't there" or a "hindsight is 20/20" situation. Sure, the autopilot could have had a warning, and yeah, the age old, "a plane crash happens for a number of reasons, not just one" -- conveniently ignoring the difference between "proximate cause" and "root cause." There's no question what crashed this plane. It was the absolute stupidity and irresponsibility of this "hero" flight crew.
No one is saying the pilots are vindicated for making a foolish decision. But the point still stands, there was no warning that the autopilot disconnected. Something like this was bound to happen, kid at the controls or not- but the kid at the controls in this was was the setting event for the tragedy. This crash highlighted a bigger problem with training and the warning system, as most crashes often do. I think you're missing the forest for a single tree here. No one is doubting mistakes were made, but the crash offers an opportunity for safety and growth within the industry.
If the kid didn't overcome the autopilot, all these will not happen. If the pilot was in the seat, they won't mess the stick when in autopilot mode, and the plane could be saved in time even if the autopilot is off.
@@99空间 if there was not a miss-programming of autopilot, then the kid would not have an opportunity to overcome the autopilot(what is a reason when you pull the stick to silently PARTLY turn autopilot anyway?)
It's not just the captain who is to blame. The first officer pulled the nose up way too far and stalled the frigging plane. Even I know not to do that! It's basic plane mechanics, FFS...
@@ivantheteribul Just want to finish your comment with a twist. …have the boy in the cockpit when the plane was on the ground instead. Then the boy attempted to lift off the runway and fail. Final Destination.
Can we give another round of a applause for the acting in this series? Seriously, can Hollywood contact this show about hiring kid actors? Impressive stuff!
Out of all the ones I've seen, this story of tragic proportions gets me right in the soul. For the family of the pilot who allowed his child to hold the yoke, the burden of this accident will haunt them forever. The passengers suffered tremendously before the crash. Its a tragedy that should've and could've been prevented. One of the saddest crashes of all time.
One thing that I find irredeemable is how the co-pilot saved the plane from the initial dive, and yet inexplicably put the plane in an absurdly steep climb well beyond its technical and performative capabilities. The whole event is an amalgamation of gross negligence on all counts.
My thoughts in the beginning of the video, during the initial bank: “okay get out of the seat. I’m going to disconnect the entire autopilot system and fly by hand until we figure out what’s going on.” The fact that they weren’t able to think of this is really bad. #1 rule of aviation: During a problem, you aviate, navigate, and communicate. All in that order. They focused on navigation during to point in which they should’ve aviated.
Had the kid not flown the aircraft nobody would know the problem with the semi auto pilot which could kill other pilots & crew let alone passengers & planes.
Pilot Daddy: "Don't touch this button. Especially the red one. It disables the autopilot ☺️" Son: Ok dad 😊 "turns the plane off course and crashes it into a mountain instead" 🛩💥
He made a dumb irresponsible decision that cost people their lives. That doesn’t necessarily mean that he was a bad parent. If mistakes make you a bad parent then there are a lot of bad parents in the world!
I remember in 1998(6yo) my first flight, I got to sit in the cockpit of a decent sized jet, before takeoff. It was a spectacular experience I still remember vividly. I didn't touch anything because there was so many switches and dials that amazed me. The pilots showed me how stuff worked and gave me some kids flying badge lol. I think it's great to show kids the cockpit, but from this tragedy it shows how you have to pay strict attention to them. Though after 911 I don't think it's allowed anymore.
Rest in peace to all of you fine men, women and children on the plane.. its amazing how deeply you can care about people you never knew or ever would have known because of something like this.. im so sad for the pilot and his family, and for all the lives in that crash. I hope you all rest well. ❤️
@@cadaverdog1424 Late, but I'd just like to point out that this is not the kid's fault. He was allowed in the seat by his father, a pilot. He wasn't trained to fly a plane, much less one in an emergency situation. His father willingly put him and everyone else in mortal danger.
I honestly don't understand why when they first realized it was turning they didn't immediately get him out of the seat. This is so incredibly tragic beacuse the situation could have been easily avoided. May they all rest in peace❤
He thought the auto pilot was still on and it was probably too late for them to react because the gravity already pinned them down as the plane spirals. The reconstruction might have gave us the misrepresentation that it was minutes before they can do something, but probably just seconds before the gravity hindered them from controlling the plane.
There is no way that sitation could be "easily avoided". the Russian pilots flew Russian planes which would sound an alarm every time auto pilot got disengaged, this new plane however does not sound alarm - to add to the confusion only a part of the auto pilot was disengaged while everything else remained, giving an illusion auto pilot was still working fine. Essentially they had 1 minute to react to a situation they legitimately thought was impossible, think about that, try reacting to a situation you can't comprehend to even being a possibility, they checked that off as not being as issue because of the reasons stated and probably tried finding other reasons for the confusion. This all comes back to one simple thing - lack of proper training given to the pilots in this new aircraft, honestly if it wasn't them, I don't see how another crew or them wouldn't eventually get struck by tragedy if a whole company let their pilots continue flying with no knowledge of these very major changes to the aircraft. Core issue was actually lack of communication/training on the major changes, then the child being seated in my view, although of course the children being let in the seats was absurd and just sped up the road to a tragedy.
@@DazaiIsLostThere was a very easy way to "easily avoid it". Don't let the kids in. I can somewhat understand letting his kids see the cockpit, but letting them sit in pilot's seat and even worse touch things was pure idiocy, foolishness, recklessness. I could go on.
Imagine the disbelief of the investigators the first time they listened to the CVR.
Where's that video of the boy in the pilot seat?
@@VideoServicesVB they definately wont reveal it in public and possibly it was destroyed in the crash
@@neelampal7247 consider they have a checkered past.. there's your answer.
If they didn't agree with Darwin before, they do now
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When the kid Said “hey why is it turning” the captain should’ve gotten right back to his seat and taken control immediately . Even if they were confused with the situation. 🙃 unbelievable..
Ya think? So dumb to let the kids sit in the captain's chair. I remember as a kid being invited into the cockpit but never to sit in the chair
@@davedoesthingsdreaded even if they dont sit in the chair they can still push all kinds of buttons in the cealing, turning off hydraulics and what not. That cockpit door should be locked at all time
Hindsight is always 20/20.
NO! He should have NEVER LET THAT KID TOUCH ANYTHING TO BEGIN WITH!
After watching several air disasters docus I came to realize pilots tend to trust the plane too much. They even have an official aviation term for this excessive trust (I forgot what that term is called). The capitain here probably assumed nothing bad would happen.
They speak of all the reasons this happened and how this all could have been avoided.....however, no matter how you slice it, the father had no business letting kids take the pilot seat.
Also, when the *KID* said something was off about the plane, the pilot shoulda jumped back in ASAP.
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@@bossestillalive You ok there?
Did you not watch the video. All pilots around the world didn't have the proper training for dealing with unusual bank angles and the autopilot. Training has been revolutionized since. It wasn't just one man's decision. If anything he helped exposed a deficiency that would've caused more accidents.
@@chukwudiilozue9171 What's the point of allowing the kid to sit in the seat if you're just gonna ruin it by freaking out if somethings a little off. Better to wait so as to not ruin the nice family moment. Have some empathy
I can't understand why the captain didn't IMMEDIATELY take control the minute he knew something was wrong while there was yet time. This crash is unbelievable.
I could see the captain letting the kids come to the door and look at the cockpit but to let them sit in his seat and take the controls is purely insane.
Bet it's a fake story to blame it on pilots, made up a story probably Eldar wasn't even a kid.
There was a 9 second window to adjust and fix the problem. In those 9 seconds, he and his copilot were confused by something that doesn't happen in Russian planes and that they were not briefed on: one of the screens reported that they were suddenly above an airport, which would be ridiculous.
From what I've seen from a comment, when the pilot's daughter was the one flying, she was just holding the stick, when it was the son's turn, he pushed on the stick which turned off the auto-pilot. This was probably what the pilot were confused at. Then it was too late when the plane started turning all over the place since the pilot couldnt take over due to the Gs. Since the cockpit doesnt have it's own anti-gravity, the Pilot was definitely tumbling all over the cockpit to even take over
@@chikin6146 Well the kid says "Why is it turning." And his dad, the Capt, asks "Is it turning by itself?" And the kid says "Yes it is." Right then he should've said "Get up without touching anything and let me have it." Well, I'ts what I would've done but honestly, I'd never allow my kids to turn the plane in the first place. And, maybe the video here doesn't represent how it actually happened because in the video he has plenty of time to take the controls. Maybe in real life it played out much faster than it did in the video.
They won’t do that again lol
"Would you like to pilot the plane?"
"Noo."
Kid had more sense than the father
He also knew before the first officer that the plane shouldn't be permitted to rollover. Those were two of the dumbest pilots in human history.
russian egos at play,
@@tankthearc9875 Russian roulette
Dang Sativa if you ever fly let me know I would love to sit next to you..Man Your Fine As Hell Girl ...
@@aggressiveinnovations587 S1 mp.
At 17:00, without hesitation the pilot should've said get up, let me sit back down. Very dumb, worse than allowing the teenager to fly.
That's correct. They had at least 45 seconds from the time they realized the plane was "turning by itself" until they were unable to do so.
What about the copilot? Didn't have both hands on controls in the first minute of the emergency. Fighting the autopilot, neither pilot mentions the aileron disengaged auto-pilot light.
@@goldreserve the Entire Crew dropped the ball. I mean they should have a Guard over that Red Button of Death... what a shame!
That's right, that was the big mistake, too much is being made of the kid.
Now you speak up.
It’s painful how this could have been avoided. It’s so sad that one mans decision changed lives forever.
I wonder if anyone looted through the luggage and bodies
@ In the middle of nowhere Siberia where the closest civilization is hundreds of miles away? I doubt it.
LIMA air crash was even worse
Did you not watch the video. All pilots around the world didn't have the proper training for dealing with unusual bank angles and the autopilot. Training has been revolutionized since. It wasn't just one man's decision. If anything he helped exposed a deficiency that would've caused more accidents.
@@ohh2752 ~ Yes, exactly! The airline should have trained all pilots to this new technology, and the fact that the alarm would not sound to alert them that something was wrong, etc! It's freakin common sense that they should have!!! I just don't get it!! The plane was clearly recoverable if the pilots were trained correctly in the first place!!
Can you imagine watching children walk into the cockpit and then a couple minutes later the plane starts bank? There is definitely dark humor in that. Whoever witnessed the kids going into the cockpit were probably thinking _"Ah sh*t, I knew it!"_
Aeroflot had to put out a new directive
*DO NOT LET YOUR CHILDREN FLY THE AIRPLANE*
They said why us it turning pull up pull up gently
! Gently!
Why was the pilot buried in the “heroes” cemetery? His negligence and stupidity killed not only his own children, but everyone else on board.
That's what I've always wondered, why are the children buried with heroes? It's the boy's fault.
@@MilesL.auto-train4013 It's not a 15-year-old's fault for failing to deal with a situation that he absolutely NEVER should have been in, that the qualified adults (including his guardian) had multiple opportunities to keep him out of. Nor is it his fault for accidentally activating functionality of the plane that not even the trained pilots were aware of. The children are victims. The adults that could and should have stopped the situation before it started, on the other hand...
@@Zetalight16 Yeah you're right now that I think about it. The adults are the ones to blame.
@@MilesL.auto-train4013 Glad you changed your mind.
@@ef5supercell Still though, why are they buried in a heroes grave?
I am heartbroken for the mother. She lost both of her children and her husband due to her husband's unbelievably idiotic actions. I can't even begin to imagine how that must feel.
Yeah, as soon as I realized he was taking all their kids I was horrified, realizing what that meant. Seeing that kids smile I couldn't help but smile back, remembering what was about to happen took that away really quick. If I was her I might wish I'd been on the plane too, I don't know how I could go one if I suffered a loss that great all at once.
So who was that lady sitting next to the uncle before they went to the cockpit?
@@SongSingsSoprano She is the daughter of the guy who brought children to the cockpit
@@fanofthelinkinpark And the guy who brought children to the cockpit is the Captain's brother. he's a pilot too. A family affairs
It was the foolish person sitting next to the kids that had to mess things up
Ignoring the fact he let his kids fiddle with the controls, the fact they seemingly saved the plane only to be way too low and crash anyways is extremely sad.
what happened to the ground proximity warning? "PULL UP" or anything like that?
This one made my blood boil. How can someone be so irresponsible. I don't get it. RIP. What a terrible tragedy.
It's really shocking.
It's more disastrous than as if a surgeon allowing his child to operate on a patient. Gosh..RIP departed souls.
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It's one thing to allow children into the cockpit, but they should have never been allowed to sit in the pilot's seat and have access to the controls. In that sense, the fault lies clearly on the pilot.
I disagree. In this case he had the autopilot on so (he thought) the boy couldn't do anything, and even if he did they are high in the sky and should have plenty of time to recover. Now this was very unlucky that they weren't aware of this hidden feature of the plane they made them fail to recover the plane. But in 99 cases out of 100 this should never had become a dangerous situation even with a kid sitting in the captain's chair for a couple of minutes.
But performing open body surgery on a patient? There is no auto pilot for that and no room for error either. One wrong cut and the patient is dead. So no, that would be way more irresponsible than what these guys did, even if it did turn out disastrous
@@mudgatebronn4438 actually I hear that if you mess with the ""steering wheel"" it can run the risk of shutting off the auto pilot on some aircraft
The difference is a surgeons child wouldn’t kill 75 people
“All they had to do was to let go” - this is so true in life sometimes
Rest in peace pipo
He shouldn't have let the kids into the cockpit, he did. He shouldn't have let them sit in the pilot's seat, he did. He shouldn't have let them touch anything, he did. He shouldn't have left him unattended without closely monitoring, he did. Even the co-pilot wasn't monitoring. He should have immediately jumped into his seat, he didn't. Oh god!
Didn't have to jump anywhere.
If you did have kids in the cockpit, only have them when the plane is landed and the pilots don’t have to do anything.
bruh just let him sit take a picture and make him leave the cockpit wtf
*TRUE!!! but KID had ZERO to DO with Wut HaPPened!!!*
@@activatefiasco5843 He did. If he was not there, the accident would not have happened in the first place.
I’ve been on a binge of these. And they are almost always tragic. But this one hits differently. Malfunctions, weather, maintenance negligence, communication errors happen a lot. This was so easily avoidable and such gross negligence. I’m so sorry for the people who died because of the captain and first in command. So very sorry. It doesn’t matter how much they spin it. It was the captains fault. Not the kids. Not the uncles’. It was the captain. Period.
@Kelly Zambo - No ifs, ands, or buts about it that's for sure.
Aeroflot 6502 crashed because the pilot made a gamble that he could land the aircraft without visuals. Aeroflot had a very lax safety policy.
FINALLY!! I BEEN HATING THE FACT THAT EVERYBODY WAS BLAMING THE KIDS!!!!
@@FentanylDYST Even the program itself made it sound like it was the kids’ fault. Absolutely not. It’s not a family reunion in the cockpit. It’s a job where the Captain is responsible for hundreds of lives. No one else is to blame.
@@Kellyzebras713 Exactly, the kids didn't know better because, well, they are kids, their brains are still developing and not mature yet.
"It's not the crew's fault!" Yes it was! By allowing those children to pretend to fly that plane the crew allowed it to crash.
I was surprised that there was no audio alarm to announce when the auto-pilot was partially disengaged and eventually it would have bit someone else, so that definitely needed to be addressed. However, to simply let go and let the plane fly itself would have gone against ANY pilot in a crisis situation.
The saddest thing about this whole incident is that poor child probably died knowing he had doomed everyone on that aircraft.
Exactly. There should be two independent indicators of autopilot disengagement, dash lights and sound alert. The sound alert should be a voice saying "autopilot disengaged"
Yes, "it was not their fault" is More Face-Saving BS. Movitivated by National & Professional Pride.
@@AORD72 Totally agree, however the Pilot would have known that he "was fighting the autopilot for 30 secs" He would not have thought "it's turning by itself!"
Yes he must felt sooo guilty that becoz of him everybody died
Well "luckily" when such a young person is in deathly danger they are usually fully preoccupied with their own peril and there is not much capacity for any derivative abstract thinking about their responsiblity for someone else peril.
Out of all of the plane crashes I've binge-watched so far, this one makes my blood boil the most. Not only because the pilot just handed over the lives of all passengers on board to his teenage kids, but also because of the lack of blame towards the pilots and the boy. Yeah something's wrong with the plane, but at the hands of an experienced pilot they had a much higher chance of survival. All that boy could do for a few minutes straight was following simple instructions of turning left or right...
Such entitlement it’s disgusting
Never fly with this airline, it has so many accidents
I dont understand your point of view - kid done nothing wrong (to captains knowledge) because the autopilot was on. The fact that autopilot disconected without any alarm and started turning the plane listening to Kid's inputs - that was the main problem. They were baffled because they didnt expect anything of that matter to happen.
Imagine sitting at the Driver seat of your family car when you are 12.. Obviously you are not driving, the car is stationary; but imagine now suddenly car starts to drive and turn when its not supposed to. You would be confused as well.
@@YurandX the point is those teenage kids had no business being at the controls or in the pilot's seat of a commercial passenger plane! Even if the plane got an issue, the pilot didn't get an opportunity to personally intervene irrespective of the outcome! Just a "few" minutes lost in a plane emergency dramatically impact the outcome!
Since pilot put those kids there, the lives lost were on his head.
Also what is a 12 year old doing in the driver's seat of a car? Most of them might attempt to try out something while there. And if something suddenly went wrong are they equipped to respond in an appropriate & timely manner?
@@YurandX Why didn't they know? Seems like inadequate training to me. Or perhaps they were told, but because it's not what they were used to they forgot. In any event, the plane wouldn't have crashed with the autopilot behaving as it was, if a kid wasn't flying the plane. The plane still would have crashed with the kid flying, even without the autopilot. It is 100% the fault of the crew allowing a child to fly a passenger jet, and no one else.
I'd be afraid to hand over the control of a car to a 15 yr kid, let alone an airplane. 75 people bite the dust as a result.😕
Not uncommon to see this in some cultures. I've seen kids that looked like 10 in driver's seat on a public road. With the rest of the family in the car. Not a big leap from that to this, just a matter of access if the mentality and culture are there.
I'm afraid to hand my xbox controller to a kid let alone the control of a car or an airplane. Very few 15 year olds have a mature mindset probably 0.01%. The average kid today is very stupid and their minds are mush.
The idea was that the plane won't react, like a turned off car
I think it's BS and the Russian government didnt want to reveal the pilots were incapacitated by vodka. They would have sobered up just in time for the landing in Hong Kong. A kid feeling the yoke couldnt bring down a plane with two senior 10 000 hour pilots on board, no way.
@@user2kffs Yeah but, men drink. To have revealed that as the reason would be less embarrassing than coming out with a story such as this. To say that a kid was in control of a multi million dollar machine would be far more damning and would not help their image one bit. These pilots were sober, but no matter what letting a kid even into the pit was a mistake. I think he did more than just feel the yoke, he did maneuver it. We will never know for sure.
I am truly convinced that this wasn’t the first time that this particular pilot had his son sitting in a pilot seat and allowed to manipulate controls while the plane was flying. The mother did mention that the kids frequently traveled with their father.
Good point
Without The CVR Exposing Them?
@@EasyGoer-e3z Well, if nothing happened, the CVR would never be checked, so it would go unnoticed.
this sounds like something that would have happened in the very earliest days of commercial aviation, the fact that it was in the 90's is mind blowing
A pilot having a little too much confidence in underdeveloped technology? Nah...90s sounds bout right lol people were more careful in the earlier days u dummy
@@ohh2752 You’re right! Most of big airplane disasters happened when technology was grown in earlier days of flying industry pilots were very careful just like a new driver fears of accidents so he drive very carefully everytime.
Alex S.
I have flown since 1958. In the early years of my life I flew 2 to 4 times every year.
I was never ever afraid until 10 or so years ago when we had EXTREME TURBULENCE on the way from Wisconsin to Colorado and back.
It was HORRENDOUS ❗😱❗🙏🙏🙏
I have noticed that many of the Jets are OLD and LOUD.
THEY DEFINITELY ARE DIRTIER THAN THEY WERE THAT'S FOR SURE❗❗😱🙏❗❗
I have flown since 1958. In the early years of my life I flew 2 to 4 times every year.
I was never ever afraid until 10 or so years ago when we had EXTREME TURBULENCE on the way from Wisconsin to Colorado and back.
It was HORRENDOUS ❗😱❗🙏🙏🙏
I have noticed that many of the Jets are OLD and LOUD.
THEY DEFINITELY ARE DIRTIER THAN THEY WERE THAT'S FOR SURE❗❗😱🙏❗❗
@@kathleendouglas7300 Yeah….I heard more than 40 years old Boeing jets are still flying as commercial plane right?
Just because they're your kids doesn't give you the right to put them in a position that could kill everyone onboard. Sure they didn't intend to mess up, but that doesn't change the fact that everyone is dead, right? Absolutely reckless and selfish!
Exactly. If you actually want them to fly a plane to learn some stuff or something.. atleast bring the child to a simulator… not an actual plane WITH ACTUAL PEOPLE. Besides it doesnt matter if they didnt intend to mess up. It was expected. I mean, the kids dont even have any knowledge about the controls etc, let alone flying a literal plane with REAL PEOPLE
I agree..
exactly cant tell a dead man sorry he already dead
Not that surprising the Russians are like that. Just ask Ukraine.
Well what can u say about a russian
The moment the captain’s son notified him of trouble, the captain should have gotten back in his captain seat. That portion of the mishap was the most bizarre!
Exactly and the kid would've gladly gotten out of the seat long before any gravity weighed him down. But instead he had to be screamed at by his dad over something he had no control over.
he thought it was something he can still fix
I think, he believed the auto pilot was still on, so for him it was impossible for it to bank that far. It confused him and before he can sit back the gravity pin him down already.
As it was revealed the later part of the video, the auto pilot was already partially off for a while, the moment they noticed the banking it was seconds to recovery.
@@AkoSiFrance no. It was tough love. He wanted Elder to pull the plane out of the bank , that's why he didn't return to the seat. Russia has pride of family, you don't understand
@@politicsnewsalartke7008Actually, the pilot refused to fix it, choosing instead to yell jargon at a kid in his captain seat.
A full-grown fool.
It's amazing how most of the plane accidents end up making plane travel safer and safer
Now that’s what you call Irony!
Tombstones rules, regulations and laws are written in blood.
I just watched 3 crash episodes and realized they need that to better evaluate and advance. What the irony.
I am cabin crew. I do a prayer in my mind before every flight take off and landing.I still can’t believe a pilot would allow a child (or anyone!) to sit in his seat and touch any controls.
I always pray before take off and before landing..
I would like to be a pilot
The real life is they also let kid to drive subway as well
I grew up in the 1980's and my father was an airline exec. I used to sit jump seat in the cockpit every once in awhile, and I was taught how to fly on a 737 simulator by the airline's chief pilot. I cannot believe he let his kid sit in the pilots seat, this is so irresponsible.
That's because you are a not an arrogant Russian.
This is infuriating! While there is plane full of ppl fast sleep, this guy is letting his kids play tiddly-winks with the controls.
Unbelievable.
Hi hello how are you doing today?
@@collinsmichael486 shutup
This was in the years before the changes to cockpit access after the events of 9/11, so before that in prior decades, access to the cockpit was a fairly regular occurrence with children being allowed into the cockpit and rules were extremely lax. However that doesn’t excuse the events that happened due to the captains negligence and likewise the rest of the flight crew.
@@10191927 when I was a kid in like 2010, I don't know the exact year, but definitely after 9/11, they allowed me to go in the cockpit without any issues. Obviously, they weren't stupid and allowed me to sit in the seats. I'm not sure how relaxed pilots are now, but I know that some pilots allow kids to see the cockpit from time to time.
@@aria9003 should be while it’s grounded only
I can’t believe people lost their lives just cause an adult was stupid enough to let a child fly a plane.
right
He didn't let Eldar fly the plane, though. The plane yielded partial control over to Eldar and the crew wasn't notified. It's not as if his father was like "here, kid. Get us to china."
@@annemarie4305 It was still absolutely wrong for the boy to be sitting there.
@@briantitchener4829 I'm not arguing that. But the notion that his father willingly and deliberately let him steer is factually incorrect.
Thank you!
All these years since I first read about this incident while researching for a paper during my college, I still cannot believe how it happened. Absolutely ridiculous actions.
@Honest Abe - Its definitely an unbelievable tragedy. Chalk it up to Russian arrogance and pride, left over from the Soviet era.
So all Russians break rules back then ? It was against rules to let outsiders in cockpit let alone sit in chair and play with controls.
@shizzyna
As some who grew up in UsssR let me explain: it is not that all Russians break rules but let’s take a simple DUI. In Russia if only 30% of drivers drive drunk you are going to have huge consequences versus Western Europe where less then 5 % DUI.
Moral of this incident: don't let anyone untrained sit and touch any part of the cockpit.
Applies everywhere not only on aircraft
Good advice
I only let the well trained touch my cockpit
True. But the pilots didn't understand what was wrong & were unable to correct it.
Moral of this incident: don't let kids inside the cockpit at all!!!
Yea, you should start your kid on the simulator, not the production run on a real plane with real passengers flying at 30K feet.
@Rayeed Raihan and I'm wondering ( considering your comments and your account is only 10 months old) how at age 8 you got your experience .. real life of because you only live 8 miles from airport and watch planes?
You know sarcasm doesn't translate well in comment form .. right?
@@notme2day it's sarcasm 😁
Understatement of the year.
@Rayeed Raihan try not to fly into buildings
Does the plane have a problem? Nope there's the stupid pilot problem
This is like if a surgeon let their kid operate on their patient as a "learning experience."
When peoples lives are in your hands, you don't gamble with their lives by treating their lives as an educational lesson.
Yes
great analogy! had the pilots survived they should have gotten very long prison sentences
Agreed
One thing is watching other is operating. If you take your son to watch a surgery that is fine , but you don't hadley him the equipment
Or an animal trainer letting their kids train a dangerous animal for the same thing
These stories are so utterly heart breaking. They bring tears to my eyes. The deceased were simply living their lives & just doing what they loved most, spending time with their nearest & dearest. And now, their loved ones must move forth without their presence. May all who've died RIP. My belated condolences, sent to all respective families of the deceased.
The guy who brought them in is crazy, he could’ve just let the kids sleep and dream.
The point was that they weren't able to sleep, that's why he took them to the cockpit. If the children had been asleep this all wouldn't have happened.
Still should have only let them look in, then go back to their seats right away
@@amberrose1108 Well from then the father's role started to give their kids' an experience, believing all that he was taught in the training. It's a parental instinct I'd say.
The only seeming inexplainable blunder is that, when the kid reported an issue, why not take controls immediately, regardless of the severity of the problem?
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@@truebluewonderful1139 Disagree! He was a Pilot too and should know the safety protocol!
"Suddenly they run out of time." Well that's one way of putting it. 😥
Totally incorrect statement. They ran out of time gradually.
The correct statement is they ran out of air
@@csn6234*Just 2 1/2 minutes, is NOT GRADUALLY,*
*When you are Consumed with EFFORTS!!!!*
never good to hear people talking about loved ones in past tense
Yeah
Samee
Especially when it’s in the first 5 min of the vid
@@papa6274 I hear a was or a had and I know it's not going to be a happy landing
I was thinking the same thing
I can’t even imagine the pain of the wife and mother of the pilot “responsible” for this absolutely tragic crash.
Can you imagine loosing your entire family at once plus many other people died… and how some people might have treated her?
Omg.
I just hope so bad that mom has found peace.
No mum probably still thinks her kid was intelligent enough to fly the plane ... must have been a malfunction in the plane mum be believing still
Why write responsible in „“? He could have prevented it at so many points.
weird you don't try to imagine what all the families of those murderers must feel , she can be only ashamed what they have done to innocent people, you sound as smart as the pilot in that tragedy so I'm not expecting you to see why your comment looks dumb, you have compassion of a potato if that woman is the one to feel bad for , and the fact that you wrote responsible in quotation marks only proves what I just wrote
I thought the same! Poor mother!
@@evamicaelagaleanogonzalez3480 I blame everyone in the cockpit for the tragedy. The mom maybe also. Neither kid showed enough judgment to refuse to fly the plane and it's obvious that the dad had zero sense. Shame they didn't get any sense from the mom, either.
If you're the pilot you don't ever let anyone else put their hands on the controls especially a f**king child.
That should be common sense i know he will say they were never told or trained for that, that's just how stupid some people are
yes I agree a 15 year old it's ridiculous
It was all because that idiot brought the children into the cockpit and then their father was more concerned with impressing his children than the safety of all the passengers. Ridiculous!
@@lisas8244 so russian
@@ronakknikam To be fair it isn't actually unique to Russia. There were three cases of kids being allowed into a cockpit to manipulate the controls here in the states, though in those cases, it didn't lead to disaster.
This is scary in so many ways. How did none of the pilots realize the kid was banking the plane? It blows my mind. Didn't anybody look at the instruments? Nobody felt anything?
From what I gathered from the video, the Russian pilots flew Russian planes which would sound an alarm every time auto pilot got disengaged, this new plane however does not sound alarm - to add to the confusion only a part of the auto pilot was disengaged while everything else remained, giving an illusion auto pilot was still working fine. Essentially they had 1 minute to react to a situation they legitimately thought was impossible, think about that, try reacting to a situation you can't comprehend to even being a possibility, they checked that off as not being as issue because of the reasons stated and probably tried finding other reasons for the confusion. This all comes back to one simple thing - lack of proper training given to the pilots in this new aircraft, honestly if it wasn't them, I don't see how another crew or them wouldn't eventually get struck by tragedy if a whole company let their pilots continue flying with no knowledge of these very major changes to the aircraft. Core issue was actually lack of communication/training on the major changes, then the child being seated in my view, although of course the children being let in the seats was absurd and just sped up the road to a tragedy.
It was simply too fast to react situation. The only thing I can give to the youngest pilot was the time he managed to pull it up, he overcorrected out of panic with the result to stall the plane. There is no excuse for a pilot to stall a plane because they are trained to always keep an eye to the climb rate. There is a chance however his previous experience with Russian airplanes to often not having reliable readings from the instruments and had to rely more on vision, but I doubt that was the case.
@@epicpurevids True, it would have likely happen in the future. The boy flying was just careless but not malicious behavior.😕
Just only for 3Min...That InCiDent Happened.. SO Bad
Russians..
45:50 "All they had to do was let go"
As tragic and infuriating this story gets, THAT is the part that always breaks me
Same here. I always think of that part. Sometimes it is just better to let go.
Exactly. The auto-pilot will fly the plane. That's what it's designed to do. You can only fly the plane manually if you switch it off completely. Either, or.
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@@activatefiasco5843 your gonna be fine
That's why we are so captivated with the song "Let it Go" in Frozen.
The father's irresponsibility in letting the young people control the plane ended everyone's lives 😢
What astonishes me the most is the flagrant disregard on the part of the flight crew of the most fundamental aviation principles drilled into pilots from day one: Aviate, Navigate, Communicate. The fact that these pilots were focusing on the “holding pattern” while the aircraft was banking beyond its design limitations is just unpardonable. They failed to aviate.
this is outrageous, imagine your one of the passengers on that plane and you knew about this, just mindblowing.
Or a family member who died due to such incredible negligence.
Buried in a hero’s grave. Unbelievable. They’re self centered people who cared about showing off more than safety.
That's Russians for you. Just ask Ukraine.
The stupidest behavior ever! Hand an airborne plane containing precious lives into the hands of a clueless kid!
Just the thought of what everyone on that plane went through during those last moments is terrifying.
The lesson of this incident is that DONT let the kids drive your car or PLANE!!!
Your car or plane fine we don't car if you kill yourself, just not company ones with passengers... Go spoil your brats somewhere else
Especially planes full of passengers
@@kayakaziloqo7297 I know right. This whole thing is incredibly stupidity. Maybe the work had become too much routine like to the pilots so they thought that nothing can go wrong, even if the teenager is let to "experience" things a bit.
@@matthewwilson5019 unbelievable irresponsibility
Man car is fine, open area, only 3 pedals to be seen, if something happens anyone can pull the hand brake.
But this is a fu*k*ng plane, nobody should even touch the controls except the pilots.
1st rule of advanced systems: The rookie always manages to generate an error message no one has ever seen before.
Lolz, yep. I kinda love that, tbh. The fact that no matter how much you plan and prepare, something new and shiny will go horribly wrong and part of me loves that for some weird reason.
@@amberkat8147 thats literally not a fact but ok weirdo
Yep. Taking an introductory computer science class at university, and they have repeated in the notes they provide us with "user dumb, you (the programmer) smart". The systems should've been designed for user error, maybe something where both pilots would need to hold buttons on their yokes for a few seconds.
Mine isn't a life threatening example of said what can go wrong will go wrong , we were at the in-laws for the weekend . My father in-law was the accountant for a small drs. Office,he had his personal/work computer at home... At night he let ME ! A very inexperienced computer person play some games on it while they turned in early , left me saying don't worry about anything, you'd never be able to mess anything up😳🙄😢 ok well I wasn't all that thrilled with my performance on the games and tried to simply shut the computer off. I woke up the next day to hear that I had messed up a whole bunch of files and that it took him several hours to get back on track...
Oh that was in the 90s and ever since I've come to realize that I am not good with technology, I've had many other incidents with computers after... Tablets and cell phones nothing , but home computers have totally messed up. Anyway, just gringed seeing the kids take the captain's seat, not so much the girl,cause she was smart and listened to her Dad, and realized that it was her dad in control. Sonny Boy however ohoh. Of course I don't blame the kid, he did what I would have done... But my dad would never have let me take the captain's seat. Sit on his lap maybe... So sad that airoplanes seem to be mass killers.
True. As a software tester, I have run into this case more times than I can remember.
The fact that other professional pilots sat and bore witness to this without doing anything is astounding
Why would you ever let a child take ahold of the yoke, in the cockpit, during flight in the first place
I totally agree, especially that the aircraft is in the air, who would let a child control a plane
in a small plane where only the kid and pilot are in the plane that wouldn't be a problem but on a passenger plane i mean why would you do that
Profoundly unprofessional behavior. Even in a tiny private plane you'd still be at the wheel ready to say "let go!" at a moments notice. But to even engage in this kind of thing in a commercial flight? Unbelievable.
I can agree but the pilots did not know that fighting the ailerons would disable the autopilot. Ofc you shouldn’t let a child fly, but you can’t blame the pilots for not knowing the features of the autopilot.
IKR?
This was definitely the most infuriating one of these I've seen so far, completely avoidable
Watch the video of Air France flight 447. That one was just as bad.
That woman is so strong. She lost a husband, all her children, and her brother-in-law at once, the same day, hour minute, and second...
Yes, she lost almost everybody😨
Shes Russian, its kinda their thing.
@@blondknight99 She's also human. That doesn't make her losses any less painful. 💔 While yes, irresponsible actions were taken that ultimately resulted in this tragedy, she is also dealing with the public blame of her husband and son in all of this. I can't even imagine her pain. My heart truly goes out to her. ❤️
@@blondknight99 thats not nice dude
@@SlavicUnionGaming I didnt mean it as an insult.
That kid wasn't even old enough to see a R rated movie! He's flying a plane to the ground!
I’m stuck between loving that there are so many of these that I can binge watch, and sad because it means disasters like this have happened so many times 😭😭😭
so often?
these disasters happen very rarely.......
@@Lisanicolas366 what I meant was they’ve happened so many times.
@@vavabbe1 you sore or you from kgb ?
Depressing
When I was 6. This was before 9/11, while the plane was cruising. I remember a long flight to Australia, the pilot allowed kids into the cockpit. He and the co pilot remained in their seats and we weren't allowed to touch anything but the joy was seeing out the cockpit windows.
It's a very different view from a side window.
This show reminded me of that moment
Where are you from buddy
@@superbvideos3336 I was traveling from South Africa to Australia, if that is your question.
I was a single mom, flying on a smallish navy operational plane with my two boys, about 6 and 8 years old. This was about 30 years ago. My sons and I had "caught a hop" while I was stationed overseas, in the Philippines. Just myself , my kids and the crew were on the plane. My kids were each given an opportunity to sit in the pilot seat and place hands on the controls and fly the plane. Very frightening... I'm pretty sure that would not be allowed today!
@@cmcmahon8551 yep. When I was a kid they allowed the same thing. That was probably 35 years ago. As a kid I thought it was great but now, I'm kinda horrified.
Back in the day, mid eighties, unacompanied minors (UM) were sometimes allowed to take a look in the cockpit mid flight. But the highlight was to hand over the coffee or glass of water to the pilot normaly being served by a steward(ess). Not to ‘fly’ the plane. I guess KLM, Sabena, British Airways and PanAm were not into the ‘let the kid sit in the pilot’s seat’ thing.
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Oooh thankyou for your comment I didn't know they post every Thursday ...🙏🏾🏵️
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I can’t with this lack of blame. Great they now know the autopilot can partially disconnect. Back to the main point, had those kids not been in the cockpit, DRIVING, this wouldn’t have happened. They literally said the 15 year old threw it out of autopilot. This was 100% the cockpit crews fault. There’s no way around it.
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@@richardhenderson2268 I am! Thank you! you know who’s not okay? The people on that plane. 🙋🏽♀️
@@tiaracaudill yes you’re right which there is something I could do to make them happy I’m Richard from Keene NH but I live in Germany nice to meet you Tiara where are you from
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As soon as they started seeing something off .Get the damn child out the seat Asap.
nah these idiots just chose to stare at the display like zombies
He never should have been in the seat. That pilot wasn't smart
Kids shouldn't have been in the cockpit, period.
I just thought the same!!
Things were verrrry lax pre-911, including in the US. I worked for a US airline throughout the 1990s, and was once invited to ride in the cockpit when I boarded a flight as a passenger. I had no business sitting up in the flight deck jumpseat (I was only a gate agent), but rode up there anyway just for the experience (which was amazing).
Also, whenever I was flying out somewhere, I used to board our aircraft at the maintenance hangar, and ride over to the gate on the plane. Which means...my luggage and I didn't go through the security checkpoint - I could have brought anything on that plane that I wanted to - yeesh. I did this dozens of times.
So yeah - it's scary to think of how loose operations were back then. Thankfully, I meant no harm and always behaved myself. And no...I won't name the airline out of respect for people I care about who still work there, lol.
Insightful and respectful comment. Nice.
You weren’t handling the controls, you just sat in the jump seat. This guy allowed his kids to handle the controls.
Now that you mention this story, I remember something similar happening to me back in the 90s in a plane with my cousin and my aunt. We were in a national flight in Colombia. He always wanted to become a pilot (and he eventually did) and he asked permission to go to the cockpit and they let him. He stayed there until we landed. Of course they didn’t allow him to do anything other than just to sit and watch. But it was very cool for him. I’d say he was about 13 or so.
@@Powerranger-le4up you are correct that they didn't allow me to "do" anything in the flight deck, but the fact that I had full access to the cockpit, and the ability to bring anything on the plane that I wanted, was very dangerous in terms of security. There was so much trust back then. This was an A320 with around 150 pax on board.
I was saying the same thing to my husband. Pre-9/11 flying was extremely lax.
This plane crash must be one of the most terrifying crashes in air crash history. Letting child to control the plane, just because he's the captain's son. Rest in peace all the people on that board🕊️
There are situations where you can't let your children come first. This was one of them. To a pilot the interest of his passengers should always come first. This pilot, no matter how intelligent, wasn't thinking healthily.
If he actually let them come first he would just show him without giving over control. Instead he klld them.
Actually, I doubt his IQ was higher than that of a fly.
He should have put his kids first by protecting them along with the passengers.
I can't believe the pilot you've trained for thousands of hours to be able to fly this jet and you're handing all of the control and lives onboard to a 15-year-old boy with no minute's flying
The fact that his own family will be in danger as soon as he made that stupid idea..
The pilot thought that the autopilot was still in control of the plane. Don’t forget that they were being pushed back in their seats and couldn’t move . He shouldn’t have had his kids in there yes but they didn’t touch the controls.
One of the most irresponsible things I’ve witnessed or heard of in my 37 year career.
This crash in particular is the saddest , most avoidable and awfull
I flew Aeroflot in 1993. I enjoyed it , the staff were great, but I was certainly nervous. Seeing this now makes me question the unexpected false leading we experienced during that flight.
The daughter had the right thought.
"I don't think that's a good idea."
Scary when the grown ups are not responsible... And therefore the children needs to be, but doesn't know how😢
The son sure took his sweet time occupying the captain`s seat.
"If you turn it to the left, where will the plane go?"
"Down."
Omg for real 😳
That's a good one even though there's actually nothing to be laughed about here.
I remember hearing the actual cockpit voice recordings and it's intense and heartbreaking. If you want to just search RUclips, its there. Thank you for posting these! I really enjoy this show!
Which channel 🤔
Ouch, really? So sad.
Bro quit lyin
This shows how accurate the makers of this documentary were, with the specific game-boy of that time.
Its probably an added detail just to make the documentary more lively
Maybe his mom knows he brought his gameboy and the makers know that?
@@kyanzennaro2290 Your first sentence implies that they randomly chose an object and your second sentence says that they specifically chose the type, so you need to reform your comment.
@@Stichting_NoFa-p
I see,I mean,it could have been either?
Mayday episodes usually include details that eyewitnesses know
or they just ask the actors to act like when they are boarding a normal flight
either works and livens the experience
It seems that from all these clowns the most qualified pilot was his daughter.
LMAO
You have no idea just how true this is.
Exactly. Watching this actually made me every upset. SMH
😂 💦 💦 💦 truth
Here in my place the bus driver once allowed a passenger girl to drive the bus, the next day it came in the newspaper that other passengers sued the driver and the bus owner.
"and dont run in the first class, they will fire us" infamous last words
How can they say it wasn't the crews fault. The whole incident was the captain fault. Firstly you don't put a child on pilots seat while the the plane is in the air. It would have been nice if the plane landed and then got his son to tour the cockpit. This has taken so many life's. Even though we forgive them but this won't be forgotten by many 🥺
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Well I can guess that the captian thoguht well there's three pilots in the room so it should be safe for the kids to fly for at least a little while. Sadly it's just the result of getting a little too confident, the only really annoying part from his is that he's screaming at the kid once the trouble starts even though he's the one that let it happen in the first place. The kid must've felt so horrible already.
The plane was in auto pilot so there was no need to worry because all systems we're controlled by auto whatever the child did was not at fault t.he auto pilot was faulty ..that's the bottom line ..I'm a pilot I know ..
@@kattyndlovu6122 you're not a pilot at all. The autopilot was not faulty not even a little bit. It even showed up as a red button where it said "autopilot off". The pilots should have been able to realize that the autopilot was off without any warning. But there even was a warning because the switch turned red and said it was off.
@@kattyndlovu6122 I guess you are one of them who will allow your children to sit in the captains seat. Yet another irresponsible one.
I watched till 2:27 and decided not to watch this kind of ultimate stupidity. No words left for this.
Me too..... It's not only sad... It was so dumb that I couldn't bare to even watch more than that...
It wasn't entirely the childrens fault. The pilots weren't trained on how to recover from unexplained banking on an Airbus plane. The way they pulled up during the dive caused a stall but if they had actually let go then the system would automatically recover. And why are these pilots not trained to automatically look and verify autopilot engagement during problems cuz I swear half these crashes are due to autopilot disengagement.
This is russia anything can happen🤣🤣🤣🤣
That feeling (to stop watching) overwhelmed me too and I hit space and I only could continue watching after going to the loo...
These are nineties in Russia for you- it was a mess in all areas, including aviation. My parents once told me about their first and for now, their last flight- they suddenly saw the wing or something on fire and they started to panic, but then heard the voice though the speakers- "Don't worry, the pliots are sober and it's not on autopilot!" Like, usually they were drunk?! They landed after all, but it felt like hell.
It was not the only child incident, I'm sure, the others just didn't lead to fatality so we'll never know about them. You want to let your son to rule? Fine, but only on earth and when there are no other people inside. I remember one of my teachers who used to tell us all of the instructions are written with blood and this is 100 % true. After this incident nobody can enter the pilot's cabin at all, while at that time it was normal for it to be opened- imagine that anyone could walk in, it's just scary. Of course Airbus construction had serious fault in it, it didn't have audo signal when auto pilot was shut down and so the pilots didn't see it was shut down. But my opinion won't change- the pilot and only the pilot is to blame from the very moment he let his son touch the controls. And the second pilot was taking photos! Photos, when they should have been watching every Eldar's step! And after all the kid, not the pilot realized something was wrong- damn overconfidence like we are skilled pilots, what can go wrong?
P.S. If anything, sorry for my English.
Too many Airbus have flung themselves into the ground with the auto pilot, and now Boeing is like hold my beer with the big body 737, in a hey we know how to build aircraft bit lets see how far the 737 can go before it fails....
@@GrayD1ce they really pushed it too the max :D
See that's what I dont understand. When I looked out the window because we were in alot of turbulence I was horrified to see fire coming out the engine but I showed my dad and he was like that's normal... But he was a mailman. The other engine wasn't doing that.. and the engine earlier wasn't spitting fire. Also we were being tossed everywhere. Last time I flew, landed during a storm at night. Never again.
The kid stayed in the seat.
I m a new pilot. Just engaged with Emirates as a 1st officer a month ago. I don't know why these serials r my favourites
Have a safe flight always
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There seems to be so many times this plane could have recovered. Such a tragedy
The irony is that if the boy and copilot just get their hands off from the control column at almost any time of the trouble, they survive...
The autopilot would have stabilized at a correct cruise altitude.
RIP 75 souls. Unbelievably reckless. 2 pilots in the cockpit. 15 year-old in the captains seat for 3 minutes. Neither pilot watching him or ready to take control. Didn't see aileron autopilot light.
The fact that he let his kids in the pilot seat at 30k feet with over 70 souls on board is crazy, they had them turning like they just turning the steering wheel on a car, he shouldn’t of never let them kids touch the chair especially the over hype son. If he would’ve never put them in the captain seat on a plain flying then none of this would have happened and then again they learned something from this to save more people but them innocent people shouldn’t of have suffered cause he wanted to give his kids special treatment .
This is an example of poor training. The pilots didn't know:
The autopilot will partially disengage if you put enough pressure on the controls while it is engaged
The autopilot doesn't make a warning tone when it's partially disengaged (bad design btw)
The procedures for manually recovering from an unusual attitude (huge bank angle, climb/dive angle)
The Airbus has computerized flight controls that can recover from stalls on their own with no input from the pilot
If anybody on the flight deck had known any one of those things this crash could have been avoided.
If the captain kept his kids out of his seat, it could have been avoided too.
@cheryldahl9192 True, but the other issues OP mentioned would have then been a ticking time bomb for another plane.
Poor training and even poorer decisions.
The worst thing is that the only thing they had to do was let go, and everything would have been fine
When I ever so lightly tap the brake pedal in my car, cruise control turns off at once by design w/o producing a sound or an alert b/c it's intuitive that man overrides machine. However, like on that plane the cruise control light changes (in a Bimmer from green to white) after disengagement. So in my view the Airbus engineers engineered that right but the pilot training was poor. Communication problem between Westerners and Russians, who could have guessed... but no, an accidental (final) world war between them can never happen, just keep shooting.
You can see where this series started getting better funding, the production really improved over time
What are you talking about? It's a tv show called air crash investigation that was on discovery Channel.
They didn't make this you daft.
looool, its a tv production for syndication
@ well I mean, technically
@@Yeahnah89001 I think thats what he's talking about though? Its a shame that most people don't realise that this was for National Geographic
Really takes a special type of stupid to allow a child to touch anything in the cockpit on a plane carrying passengers. Even after the son pointed out the plane was turning, they left him in the chair!
True. Stupidity is the biggest killer of them all.
This is one of the most horrifying airline crash videos ever, not only because of the plane's behavior, but because of the shocking, careless behavior of the captain.
Basically, "It wasn't the pilots' fault. They weren't trained on how to recover from stupidly letting an untrained child crash their plane." Unbelievable. A "hero's grave." This isn't a "you weren't there" or a "hindsight is 20/20" situation. Sure, the autopilot could have had a warning, and yeah, the age old, "a plane crash happens for a number of reasons, not just one" -- conveniently ignoring the difference between "proximate cause" and "root cause." There's no question what crashed this plane. It was the absolute stupidity and irresponsibility of this "hero" flight crew.
Agreed.
No one is saying the pilots are vindicated for making a foolish decision. But the point still stands, there was no warning that the autopilot disconnected. Something like this was bound to happen, kid at the controls or not- but the kid at the controls in this was was the setting event for the tragedy. This crash highlighted a bigger problem with training and the warning system, as most crashes often do.
I think you're missing the forest for a single tree here. No one is doubting mistakes were made, but the crash offers an opportunity for safety and growth within the industry.
If the kid didn't overcome the autopilot, all these will not happen. If the pilot was in the seat, they won't mess the stick when in autopilot mode, and the plane could be saved in time even if the autopilot is off.
@@99空间 if there was not a miss-programming of autopilot, then the kid would not have an opportunity to overcome the autopilot(what is a reason when you pull the stick to silently PARTLY turn autopilot anyway?)
It's not just the captain who is to blame. The first officer pulled the nose up way too far and stalled the frigging plane. Even I know not to do that! It's basic plane mechanics, FFS...
The pilot should have never allowed him to even touch the controls
Yeah , I KNOW
Thanks captain obvious
@@thomasdavies2218 no problem captain comidian ......jk
He could have let them up front while the plane was on the ground, but oh no...
@@ivantheteribul
Just want to finish your comment with a twist.
…have the boy in the cockpit when the plane was on the ground instead. Then the boy attempted to lift off the runway and fail. Final Destination.
Watching this series...I'm breathless and speechless
So am i.
I saw it years ago.
So were they.
Pilot was beyond stupid. This makes me angry.
Can we give another round of a applause for the acting in this series? Seriously, can Hollywood contact this show about hiring kid actors? Impressive stuff!
Agree. These actors are always top notch
Out of all the ones I've seen, this story of tragic proportions gets me right in the soul. For the family of the pilot who allowed his child to hold the yoke, the burden of this accident will haunt them forever. The passengers suffered tremendously before the crash. Its a tragedy that should've and could've been prevented. One of the saddest crashes of all time.
This is the best airplane investigation channel, Period.
these are uploada of a tv show
Alex Joshua cool too no narrator tho.
But they steal National Geographic Channel content 😄. Infringement!
@@DEJEEY_CK this isnt nat geo content. Nat geo is nothing more than a distributor, and WONDER purchased licensing rights just like they did.
@@planenboom But i have watched this same episode from Nat Geo DSTV, who are they getting license from??
One thing that I find irredeemable is how the co-pilot saved the plane from the initial dive, and yet inexplicably put the plane in an absurdly steep climb well beyond its technical and performative capabilities. The whole event is an amalgamation of gross negligence on all counts.
Read the titled and thought it said "disabled child takes down pilot" and I was very very confused.
Oh dear. Same here!
Lol
Hooked on phonics
That’s y I first clicked & got hooked on series.
I was so confused & a little intrigued.
Once I realized what it was, I kept watching. Lol.
@@julias2855 Captin blown out the window hooked me
oh, I didnt even realize this was a new video, I just wanted to watch a wonder video
My thoughts in the beginning of the video, during the initial bank: “okay get out of the seat. I’m going to disconnect the entire autopilot system and fly by hand until we figure out what’s going on.” The fact that they weren’t able to think of this is really bad. #1 rule of aviation: During a problem, you aviate, navigate, and communicate. All in that order. They focused on navigation during to point in which they should’ve aviated.
The thing is that they didn’t even know how to fly manually. It’s scary how so many people lives rely on such mediocre individuals
Had the kid not flown the aircraft nobody would know the problem with the semi auto pilot which could kill other pilots & crew let alone passengers & planes.
I would like to see you getting out of the seat with that sort of G
Pilot Daddy: "Don't touch this button. Especially the red one. It disables the autopilot ☺️"
Son: Ok dad 😊 "turns the plane off course and crashes it into a mountain instead" 🛩💥
*All kids deserve good parents, but not all parents deserve kids.*
Hence parenting licenses are needed.
He made a dumb irresponsible decision that cost people their lives. That doesn’t necessarily mean that he was a bad parent. If mistakes make you a bad parent then there are a lot of bad parents in the world!
I remember in 1998(6yo) my first flight, I got to sit in the cockpit of a decent sized jet, before takeoff. It was a spectacular experience I still remember vividly. I didn't touch anything because there was so many switches and dials that amazed me. The pilots showed me how stuff worked and gave me some kids flying badge lol. I think it's great to show kids the cockpit, but from this tragedy it shows how you have to pay strict attention to them. Though after 911 I don't think it's allowed anymore.
Showing a kid the cockpit at a show on the ground? Yes. But in an actual commercial flight in the air? No.
I'm not paying an airline good money to let some idiot 6 year old kid in a cockpit while the plane is flying.
Bro don't do it
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They still do it. They offered to bring my kids up inside the cockpit before takeoff and I was like “yo, for real?”
After this accident the NTSB recommended all 15 year olds have at least 1000hrs of Xbox One Ace Combat 7 : Skies Unknown experience ..
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made me spit my coffee out brad 🤣
@@koogle5410 My man 😃
@To Release is To Resolve Death is way underrated
@To Release is To Resolve dark humour
Rest in peace to all of you fine men, women and children on the plane.. its amazing how deeply you can care about people you never knew or ever would have known because of something like this.. im so sad for the pilot and his family, and for all the lives in that crash. I hope you all rest well. ❤️
All in heaven except the father and son, who are burning in hell……………….
@@cadaverdog1424 Late, but I'd just like to point out that this is not the kid's fault. He was allowed in the seat by his father, a pilot. He wasn't trained to fly a plane, much less one in an emergency situation. His father willingly put him and everyone else in mortal danger.
@@cadaverdog1424 chill bro we know the actions were completely wrong but you dont gotta wish them to go to hell
@Annie497 Its frustrating that the co-pilot could also have saved the lifes of everyone onboard but was to distracted while speaking with the uncle
@@techmemez4299pffftt
I honestly don't understand why when they first realized it was turning they didn't immediately get him out of the seat. This is so incredibly tragic beacuse the situation could have been easily avoided. May they all rest in peace❤
THANK YOU! I literally just posted a comment saying that lol
He thought the auto pilot was still on and it was probably too late for them to react because the gravity already pinned them down as the plane spirals. The reconstruction might have gave us the misrepresentation that it was minutes before they can do something, but probably just seconds before the gravity hindered them from controlling the plane.
You're not GOD TO SAY MAY THEY REST IN PEACE
There is no way that sitation could be "easily avoided". the Russian pilots flew Russian planes which would sound an alarm every time auto pilot got disengaged, this new plane however does not sound alarm - to add to the confusion only a part of the auto pilot was disengaged while everything else remained, giving an illusion auto pilot was still working fine. Essentially they had 1 minute to react to a situation they legitimately thought was impossible, think about that, try reacting to a situation you can't comprehend to even being a possibility, they checked that off as not being as issue because of the reasons stated and probably tried finding other reasons for the confusion. This all comes back to one simple thing - lack of proper training given to the pilots in this new aircraft, honestly if it wasn't them, I don't see how another crew or them wouldn't eventually get struck by tragedy if a whole company let their pilots continue flying with no knowledge of these very major changes to the aircraft. Core issue was actually lack of communication/training on the major changes, then the child being seated in my view, although of course the children being let in the seats was absurd and just sped up the road to a tragedy.
@@DazaiIsLostThere was a very easy way to "easily avoid it". Don't let the kids in. I can somewhat understand letting his kids see the cockpit, but letting them sit in pilot's seat and even worse touch things was pure idiocy, foolishness, recklessness. I could go on.