After seeing this video, smart, experienced, and informed passengers will keep their seatbelts fastened. During the middle portion of the flight, not taking off or landing, loosen the belt for comfort, just keep it fastened loosely.
@@Nokin92 Yes, exactly. Loosen the belt a little, maybe, and otherwise I keep mine on. Not out of fear, but because Nature is a naughty trickster like that. Being arrogant is a good way to have Nature decide to teach you a new trick out of her collection.
@@EShirako just cause the odds are low, doesn't mean 0, after all, the odds of being struck by lightning are low, and yet there's someone who's been hit repeatedly. There is no such thing as never.
@@JRBowling1997 how so? Most airlines are still running planes that are that old, and the new planes are unstable and crash because of software glitches lol. Sometimes I like saying things just to say them too.
21:20 It should not even be a question. You land at the nearest place you can land land. It are in a plane that has been greatly over stressed, it has suffered damage to an unknown extent, and there are people aboard in need of emergency medical treatment.
Seriously!!! That was quite concerning; Not even knowing the severity of passenger injuries.. Not knowing the full extent of the damage to the plane.. Not considering his mental state etc… Nuts 🤯🚫
I have this one thing to say, no human being is perfect--people can make mistakes, even sleep deprived pilots; however the proof of an excellent pilot(S) is they can use those skills to turn around and correct their mistakes and wind up saving themselves, the plane, and their passengers! With today's cutbacks, harried schedules, and being so short handed, I believe that this was a miracle flight and that these pilots inspite of their supposed errors did an amazing job saving that aircraft, and landint it like they did. I hope that the investigation helped those three men become even better pilots--and did not tear them down. thanks for this program. I was very very impressed. I am afraid to fly. Still am, but this really gave me something to think about, when considering the skills needed to fly a plane. wow!
I truly believe this was a case of a profoundly experienced pilot and team who collectively, despite their mistakes, corrected the errors they made and restored control. Extraordinary flying skills above and beyond the ordinary. I salute this crew and captain. I wouldn't use the word miracle, as that suggests divine intervention, but so what? To some it was a miracle in their minds and hearts.
This is nothing professional and heroic - they caused this dangerous situation and they resolved it!!! They have dozens of instruments, but they deserved don't trust them and acting like idiots!!! For what captain need a real horizon if he have digital horizon and it's working perfectly?!
He was experienced but perhaps not the best pilot? Everything that happened was avoidable. I think they needed more training. I mean props to him for being able to regain control of the aircraft and saving everyone's life. But this was all pilot error.
The gentleman sitting in first class who worked for the US Government has to be the coolest cat I've ever seen as he recalled this terrifying experience. What a guy. Wow.
I'm guessing that there is subtle but strong pressure from airlines pushing pilots to always fly to their assigned destination unless it's virtually impossible to do so. I believe that it was another Mayday episode in which investigators looking into a crash that occurred in a thunderstorm discovered that pilots were routinely flying through severe thunderstorms even though the rules said that they were not supposed to do that. The reason was that if a flight had to be diverted to another airport because of a thunderstorm the cost to the airline could be quite high - putting all the passengers on an extra flight and possibly needing to pay for accommodation for the passengers. And it just messes schedules up if a plane is not where it is supposed to be to take another load of passengers.
@@Owen_loves_Butters sure, but in this case they experienced control issues, undiagnosed engine shutdowns, likely an overspeed, a high-g pullout, and had unknown and/or confirmed passenger injuries. The only correct decision at that point is direct to the nearest airport with emergency services and sufficient runway length.
I like these videos especially when lives are saved. Even though I’ve seen several of these videos before, I never get tired of them. Keep them coming!!!!! 👍🏾
When you see a pilot control a giant, incredibly complex piece of machinery like a 747 plummeting out of the sky with calm, collect nerves, it reminds us of the pure asinine practices of equity hiring. This pilot was a genius, and a courageous hero, it had nothing to do with the color of his skin.
What a tough plane, but if this had happened at night they probably would've crashed. Likely wouldn't have been able to physically see the horizon even after they came out of the clouds
Yeah you shouldn't be able to fly at night. The world can slow down. I fix forklifts and other MHE equipment. The company doesn't lose money because less MHE equipment ain't running.
@@Charles-k3z not flying at night is not possible. You have 16h + flights, they could not be carried out in daylight. Not to mention a total shortage of planes, because of scheduling. Planes in India e.g. have close to zero ground time
I'm yelling... Left Rudder, Left Rudder!! and then assumed it wasn't working. This huge mistake was astounding from experienced pilots. And I am surprised that their natural instinct Wasn't to automatically stomp on that rudder, regardless. Because even if they thought the autopilot controlled the rudder action, then they should also have thought it wasn't working. I'm glad they all survived.
The pilot caused the airplane to go out of control but he did get it back under control in the end. He was very fortunate in that he came out of the clouds high and was able to see the horizon. With enough altitude to make a full recovery.
The flight deck crew may have overlooked certain procedures and failed to identify ... verify ... and take necessary corrective action. Even with the extreme pressure and stress the pilots experience, they got back full control and landed safely with their torn apart aircraft. Outstanding airmanship. They brought the plane safely and smoothly on the runway and everyone survived. The pilots performed and handled the extreme emergency with all the skill, experience, and courage they had to land the plane. They did a good job in saving the lives of the passengers. My only hope is that their Airline uses that situation to train and increase the standards of their pilot training to make even better pilots.
You do realise a 747 is one of the hardest planes to fly. It takes loads of flight hours to properly fly a certain plane. For example if you fly a 737, you can't just go and then fly a 747 without any flight experience @tonymiller225
I imagine it would make them a more valuable set of crew. It always seems kind of iffy to throw people who have very real _'been there done that' experience_ under a bus instead of playing into it and honing those experiences for the better. instead of the usual _'chop-it-down and throw new henchmen at it'_ bit(ie: less experienced replacements)
@@tonymiller225 i think the modern way of correcting mistakes - you did a mistake, so you will have to resign or we will fire you - is wrong. Doing mistakes is part of being human. What´s important tho, is how you will fix said mistake and whether you will learn from the experience or not. Too many good, skilled, experienced people (and not just in aviation) were fired/forced to resign for no actual reason other than "being not perfect enough".
When he was 15 Ritchie Valens' school had a disaster in which psrts of an exploding plane crashed in the school yard at his school. Three boys were killed and 75 were injured. Although he wasn't there that day Valens was afraid of flying after that incident. As the world knows, Valens died at age 17 in a small plane crash. I can't imagine his emotions when he realized that the plane was going to crash.
Very informative. I had heard of this incident so I'm happy to have come across the investigation. Aw, the 747, back when we could trust & respect Boeing Aircraft.
Back in the day, the exact functions of the autopilot weren't 100% clear, especially to pilots overseas. All manuals were translated to other languages and more than once, some bits of information were lost or mis-translated. There was a flight somewhere whereby the pilot let a kid into the captain's seat but the kid accidentally disengaged just one portion of the autopilot by turning the control column and that was like a dozen years after this flight 006. I believe that particular flight never recovered from the unexpected upset.
@@thatinventionsus it was a very unfortunate event too. It was basically human error piled upon human error. and the saddest part of it is that if the pilots would have (which to be fair no human i think actually could really do) just let go, the plane's autopilot would've saved the plane. Just such a pointless accident, caused by such bad luck and mistakes compounding. But it highlighted the importance of showing to the aviation world the importance of properly training crews about how the autopilot works. arguably there is a question if the airbus or boeing way of automation is better, where airbus high level automation might have a tendency of making the pilots too confident in the computer, and unlikely to respond when things go wrong, while the boeing way might cause issues if the autopilot is not capable of doing simpler things the pilot would expect it to be able to do. And of course there's the potential for safeguards for the plane where even if there's a mistake, the plane can recover on its own.
Goes to show just how tough these airliners are - ironically though for all their engineered strength a simple faulty wire or blocked pitot can bring one down.
@@underdogrising2895 except that for all the fundamental mistakes - assuming autopilot deals with the rudder, trying to restart an engine at high altitude, leaving the airflow on. Pilot error was the cause of the problem in the first place!
Most of the accidents are caused by pilot error. He did what hes supposed to do. He got them into the problem, but he also got them out of it. Lets focus on that. Everyone makes mistake, but the team was able to recover from that. Not alot of teams can do that.
I would have tightened my seat belt, pulled my hat down, and gone back to sleep if I could. It takes them a long time to reach sea level. Request everybody to keep quiet if they can. (yawn) Everything is under control, so "no fear!"
When I fly I keep my seatbelt tight except to use the restroom. Never take your seatbelt off in less you go to restroom. That way you and your family can be safe.
It is amazing that they lost complete control of the aircraft after flaming out one of four engines! If they had been professional and well trained pilots they would never have ended up in a situation like that from a simple flameout! I am shocked and hope this is not representative of the training the sivilian airline pilots get. As a military pilot this is something we practice regularly and is hardly looked at as an emergency.
Big difference between practice in a military fighter, and a 747 unexpectedly going out of control totally blind with hundreds of passengers on your tail.
Just flew back from Washington D.C. and I haven't flown in ten years. All I kept thinking about was that Aloha flight that lost it's roof over first class, which by the way, my wife and I flew round-trip first class for the first time in my 74 years on this rock. My seatbelt stayed fastened at all times. On a wing and a prayer we made it safely back home. I don't watch the videos where the plane crashed and no one survived. I like the ones like this one that show just how skilled these pilots are and no amount of technology can replace the human being's massive computer known as a brain.
It's the pilots that caused this in the first place, as a series of MISTAKES by the pilots caused all of this. They should have never put themselves in a situation that they were 25 seconds away from slamming water at supersonic speeds. That being said, you are 1,940 times more likely to die on your way to the airport than during your flight. At any given time, 15,500 to 17,500 of which 7,782 and 8,755 are commercial jets. Think about these numbers. At this time in the history of jet aircraft, the technology is older than you are, and they now are using AI to figure billions of potential scenarios. Every time a plane has an issue, the pilots report it, they are interviewed, and all the flight data is entered in the global aviation database. They are now working on a new system that will connect pilots and their plane directly to this system and transmit real time flight and performance data, and it will be able to tell the pilots exactly what the problem is and how to correct it. With this system, the flameout on 4 would have automatically triggered a connection to the system, and it would feed all flight data in real time, and the system would feed back the solution. The mechanics of flying are all based on math. AI is far more intelligent at processing information instantly and calculating insanely complex equations. AI is dangerous when used wrong, but when it's used right, such as giving pilots instructions and suggestions to save a plane, it's a brilliant application, and jet airliners will never again crash due to pilot errors. I suggest that you not be afraid of flying, and at your age, if you can afford it, I say that you should travel to far off places that you have always dreamed of seeing. When your time comes, you don't want your last thoughts to be of regret that you didn't try things that you wanted to do.
Amazing pilots. I'm amazed noone in the back died from being thrown around and while serving breakfast with those heavy trolleys. Thank goodness for them being able to land after all that.
We hear flying is safer than driving , but after having drove millions of miles in a truck I've never had a ride so bad that I would have felt like applauding at the end of the trip .
What an amazing story of a miracle that only God could be in control. I realize that the pilot and his flight crew did everything that they were trained to do. But the miracle was that in the midst of the fall, God knew that He had that airplane in the palm of His hands. Amen
Why did he let the incident happen in the first place then? So he could play god and fix it and everyone would say how wonderful he was? Not being rude, just asking.
Seemed like the Captain wasn't thinking very clearly. After the pull out of the fall, he wants to press on to LA anyway, rather than immediately declaring an emergency and landing in SF. My guess is he suspected that he'd F-ed up, and maybe there was a great deal of pressure to stay on schedule from the airline. But, after rolling in a tailspin toward the ocean for 10minutes, it just seems crazy that you wouldn't immediately land at the earliest opportunity. I think the show probably couldn't get the crew in for an interview for this production because they were to blame for what happened. Still, after the plane was severely damaged, the pilot should be commended for getting the plane finally on the ground. Crazy story. I guess we should all marvel that most planes fly without mishap, seemingly.
WOW WOW WOW, WHAT AMAZING PILOTS. I HAVE WATCHED SEVERAL OF THESE SHOWS AND I HAVE SEEN PLANES WITH LESS DAMAGE NOT MAKE IT. SO VERY IMPRESSIVE. I DON'T FLY, SCARES ME VERY MUCH BUT I WOULD FLY IF THESE PILOTS WERE THE ONES IN THE COCKPIT. JUST AMAZING AND I AM SO HAPPY EVERYONE WAS OKAY ❤
I had an attitude indicator fail in my plane once. fortunately the weather was clear. But, it was still disorienting because you become so dependent on the AI that you want to trust it, even though you can look out the window and see what level is while the AI is showing an abnormal attitude.
@@FelipeFalker Which no one will be more sorry about than him. The reasons for this have been mentioned and in the end the most important thing is how well it ended.
Kinda surprised they are fixated on pilot errors. No doubt, but when so many flights without problems, and suddenly in an emergency, with multi task issues, it is easy to reconstruct in our minds , what should have happened.
Flying magazine reported this accident (many years ago) and I clearly remember two parts of the report. The captain deliberately lowered the landing gear to reduce the airspeed knowing that the gear doors would be torn off and that is how large chunks of the horizontal tail went missing. This may have saved the jumbo from disintegrating. Then something else happened which I felt was really a design flaw. All the load of generating the vacuum air required by the instruments* was automatically transferred to the number four engine which was not running, hence the strange instrument behavior The crew were very well trained but not for the combination of problems which came at them simultaneously. Under the circumstances they did a fantastic job just keeping their heads together. (*and autopilot)
I’ve flown many times from the states to Europe and back. 6-8 hours difference in time zones. To avoid jet lag, especially on long overseas flights… Leave and arrive a day early. Sleep in a dark hotel room whether it be for 4, 6, 8 or 10 hours… You will wake up in a new time zone feeling refreshed and while you may still feel the effects, you’ll wake up on your second day with no jet lag.
@@jamiedarr Not entirely, when you have been gone long enough and you get home again you find yourself getting hungry at odd hours of the day for a week or more after you get home
One thing I don't think I will ever understand, whenever you see planes in this kind of distress, falling and rolling, you always see the overhead baggage bend doors flying open and bags flying everywhere. How is it possible, in this day and age, that they are unable to design doors that don't fly open in situations like this. Surely it can't be that difficult to create clasps that are able to securely hold a door shut. Its one thing if the whole plane is breaking up, then obviously there's nothing to be done there. But heavy turbulence, or even a plane rolling over, shouldn't have the doors flying open sending projectile baggage everywhere. That just doesn't make any sense to me.
@@RINO8604 I'm sorry, I was unaware how the comments section worked, I guess. So we need to stick to subject matter that YOU deem important, and nothing else. I get it now. Appreciate the heads up. 🤭
@@RINO8604 Think about it this way: the last thing you want when something goes wrong is something else going wrong, even something comparatively minor. Loose luggage with the kind of G force in this incident can cause serious injury, and as Jeremy points out it should be a very simple fix
@@jeremybr2020 It’s nothing I deem important. There are people that got legitimate injuries due to the G-Forces and being thrown around the cabin. But baggage is more important
Hey, Stew! Could my wife and I get a few minutes in the crew quarters? We're prayed-up and ready to go, but The Mile High Club is on our bucket list, and this might be our last chance ... ! Thank You For Not Screaming!
Scary to find out it’s the incompetence of the crew started the whole process and continued through the whole ordeal. Even from a layman’s point of view they didn’t do even the basic things to correct the first engine problem. Imagine all those people’s lives gone in a perfectly working plane. I can’t help feeling that Chinese rules and regulations have something to do with this near tragedy
I think that I would be freaking out and would probably miss all kinds of fundamentals. I would NOT make a good pilot. 😊 God bless these guys for staying focused and saving lives.
I still laugh about a comment someone made during the "pandemic". The guy said he had watched so many Maydays during that time he felt he could fly one of the jets. I had thought the same thing.
Without being a pilot, my first reaction was: Why is the captain so focused on re-igniting engine 4? The plane can keep flying indefinitely on three engines. Forget about that engine, RUN THE CHECKLIST, shut it down, declare emergency and land safely! He even wanted to continue all the way to Los Angeles!
One way to avoid pilot falling into spatial disorientation is probably to have a closed transparent bottle half filled with liquid installed in front of the pilots. Even if the electronic instruments would fail , that little bottle will always show whether or not the plane is horizontal or not.
@@Standing.W.Israel At that time, they may still have been booking first class, but they changed the rules at some point. Now the frequent government flyers tend to use points or get upgrades because of their rewards status when they fly first class.
I think the pilot's mind had gone one dimensional; that he wanted to continue normally after such an ordeal. There was also something strange in how he addressed the people after the ordeal. Looks like he was on autopilot, not meaning to make a joke.
So, finally the screw was not heroes, he made many big mistakes. The only good thing was that the screw had saved the situation at the las minutes, with talent, alright. The plane did not crash, it is a miracle.
The airport authorities should not comments on captain on board at that instant tension situation during vertical dissent humans brain ie Captain's will have no time to see the panels whether they are functioning properly , they might have made mistakes but the investigating authorities should not comments sitting at the ground level but they should also verify themselves at that situation for themselves on board and pass on comments. Which is not advisable. Pilots and their crue members at that instant will try only to save their passengers life most valuable along with plain they will try to maximum efforts to save control of plane along with passenger's life's with great efforts either hook or crook. In order to safe landing plane thru might have broken barriers and ultimately they have done best job in landing plane safely at the airport. Most Best job they have done. Very very Good. Congrats.
Thousands of hours, especially with how much the electronics of the plane assist, doesn't = experience. Half the time, pilots aren't even flying, the plane's electronics are doing the work.
After seeing this video, smart, experienced, and informed passengers will keep their seatbelts fastened. During the middle portion of the flight, not taking off or landing, loosen the belt for comfort, just keep it fastened loosely.
Yes!
Only time I take my seatbelt off is to go to the washroom
@@Nokin92 Yes, exactly. Loosen the belt a little, maybe, and otherwise I keep mine on. Not out of fear, but because Nature is a naughty trickster like that. Being arrogant is a good way to have Nature decide to teach you a new trick out of her collection.
@@EShirako just cause the odds are low, doesn't mean 0, after all, the odds of being struck by lightning are low, and yet there's someone who's been hit repeatedly. There is no such thing as never.
As if people listens. We act like they're pushing us by being told fasten your seat belt at all time 😁
I liked the LAST DIALOGUE - The HERO IS THE 747 ITSELF
Boeing in 1985: The aircraft is the hero. Boeing in 2024: Are we the baddies?
I really like it myself too 😅
It is a miracle they survived. That had to be the most terrifying thing ever!
It really is. After watching many of these May Day Air Disaster programs, I plan to never get on an airplane again.
Spoiler alert!
Except 4 that one time...... 😔 😟 🙁
@janeceeastwood8035 o please. You watch way to much of this stuff. Planes are way safer now then in 1990
@@JRBowling1997 how so? Most airlines are still running planes that are that old, and the new planes are unstable and crash because of software glitches lol.
Sometimes I like saying things just to say them too.
21:20 It should not even be a question. You land at the nearest place you can land land. It are in a plane that has been greatly over stressed, it has suffered damage to an unknown extent, and there are people aboard in need of emergency medical treatment.
Seriously!!! That was quite concerning; Not even knowing the severity of passenger injuries.. Not knowing the full extent of the damage to the plane.. Not considering his mental state etc… Nuts 🤯🚫
@@erictaylor5462 Absolutely, you get on the ground as fast as you can. I was shocked he wasn't looking for the nearest airport, negligent!
@@coachbarbwade a flat and wide beach would have suited me,,,,
I have this one thing to say, no human being is perfect--people can make mistakes, even sleep deprived pilots; however the proof of an excellent pilot(S) is they can use those skills to turn around and correct their mistakes and wind up saving themselves, the plane, and their passengers! With today's cutbacks, harried schedules, and being so short handed, I believe that this was a miracle flight and that these pilots inspite of their supposed errors did an amazing job saving that aircraft, and landint it like they did. I hope that the investigation helped those three men become even better pilots--and did not tear them down. thanks for this program. I was very very impressed. I am afraid to fly. Still am, but this really gave me something to think about, when considering the skills needed to fly a plane. wow!
I truly believe this was a case of a profoundly experienced pilot and team who collectively, despite their mistakes, corrected the errors they made and restored control. Extraordinary flying skills above and beyond the ordinary. I salute this crew and captain. I wouldn't use the word miracle, as that suggests divine intervention, but so what? To some it was a miracle in their minds and hearts.
No human is perfect only God
Well said! Bravo😊
@@peterrahim1024 There are no sky-fairies. Stop the nonsense.
This is nothing professional and heroic - they caused this dangerous situation and they resolved it!!! They have dozens of instruments, but they deserved don't trust them and acting like idiots!!! For what captain need a real horizon if he have digital horizon and it's working perfectly?!
Amazing. Kudos to the experienced pilot who saved everybody's life. The fear among the passengers was terrific and then gratitude.
He was experienced but perhaps not the best pilot? Everything that happened was avoidable. I think they needed more training. I mean props to him for being able to regain control of the aircraft and saving everyone's life. But this was all pilot error.
@@mbsanocki88He had been within 18 TIMEZONES IN 6 DAYS. He hadn't had enough rest for goods sake
The gentleman sitting in first class who worked for the US Government has to be the coolest cat I've ever seen as he recalled this terrifying experience. What a guy. Wow.
I can't believe he actually was gonna continue on to Los Angeles at first.
Pilots prefer not to divert if they can help it.
I'm guessing that there is subtle but strong pressure from airlines pushing pilots to always fly to their assigned destination unless it's virtually impossible to do so.
I believe that it was another Mayday episode in which investigators looking into a crash that occurred in a thunderstorm discovered that pilots were routinely flying through severe thunderstorms even though the rules said that they were not supposed to do that.
The reason was that if a flight had to be diverted to another airport because of a thunderstorm the cost to the airline could be quite high - putting all the passengers on an extra flight and possibly needing to pay for accommodation for the passengers.
And it just messes schedules up if a plane is not where it is supposed to be to take another load of passengers.
exactly!!
@@Owen_loves_Butters sure, but in this case they experienced control issues, undiagnosed engine shutdowns, likely an overspeed, a high-g pullout, and had unknown and/or confirmed passenger injuries. The only correct decision at that point is direct to the nearest airport with emergency services and sufficient runway length.
Hmmmmmm and that wasn’t critical enough to divert , interesting
I have said it before the actors in these may day videos are excellent! Very believable! ❤
who the heck is em actors mf
The 747. The true marvel of the air. The greatest commercial aircraft ever made. Sad to see what Boeing has become.
what it did become, please tell me, very interesting comment
@@rootenrick3397can't you see it
You Are Absolutely Correct. Sadly, The work ethic today is not what it used to be !!!😮
@@rootenrick3397 whistleblowers have turned up dead. Google Boeing whistleblowers.
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@@rootenrick3397 Death trap manufacturer? Mcdonnel Douglas wearing Boeings skin? Profit margin chaser extraordinaire? The list goes long.
Excellent information and narration. This is a miracle that all the passengers are safe and sound. Praise the Lord...
I like these videos especially when lives are saved. Even though I’ve seen several of these videos before, I never get tired of them. Keep them coming!!!!! 👍🏾
When you see a pilot control a giant, incredibly complex piece of machinery like a 747 plummeting out of the sky with calm, collect nerves, it reminds us of the pure asinine practices of equity hiring. This pilot was a genius, and a courageous hero, it had nothing to do with the color of his skin.
No... don't... you don't want to be the people on board
What a tough plane, but if this had happened at night they probably would've crashed. Likely wouldn't have been able to physically see the horizon even after they came out of the clouds
Yeah you shouldn't be able to fly at night. The world can slow down. I fix forklifts and other MHE equipment. The company doesn't lose money because less MHE equipment ain't running.
@@Charles-k3zLMAO
Never mind that if this had been the 737 it would’ve blown up like a nuke.
@@Charles-k3z not flying at night is not possible. You have 16h + flights, they could not be carried out in daylight. Not to mention a total shortage of planes, because of scheduling. Planes in India e.g. have close to zero ground time
I always have kept my seatbelt on for entire flight
Surprised this aircraft ever flew again, goes to show you how tough the 747 is
I'm yelling... Left Rudder, Left Rudder!! and then assumed it wasn't working. This huge mistake was astounding from experienced pilots. And I am surprised that their natural instinct Wasn't to automatically stomp on that rudder, regardless. Because even if they thought the autopilot controlled the rudder action, then they should also have thought it wasn't working. I'm glad they all survived.
Yeah well g force
The one guy in the bathroom😂. The stuff be flying everywhere!
I was also thinking that
Poor guy or lady in the restroom, probably coughing up toilet paper for weeks…😂
I can watch these over and over again
Well you’re in luck 💀
Ngoytz Albert shash
The fellow whose birthday it was tells a great story. He has a flair that’s for sure. I’m glad they all survived. Phew!
He was born a second time there...
The pilot caused the airplane to go out of control but he did get it back under control in the end. He was very fortunate in that he came out of the clouds high and was able to see the horizon. With enough altitude to make a full recovery.
Seeing the damage to this aircraft - this was a true miracle...
The flight deck crew may have overlooked certain procedures and failed to identify ... verify ... and take necessary corrective action. Even with the extreme pressure and stress the pilots experience, they got back full control and landed safely with their torn apart aircraft. Outstanding airmanship. They brought the plane safely and smoothly on the runway and everyone survived. The pilots performed and handled the extreme emergency with all the skill, experience, and courage they had to land the plane. They did a good job in saving the lives of the passengers. My only hope is that their Airline uses that situation to train and increase the standards of their pilot training to make even better pilots.
They caused the near disaster with a series of mistakes - there is NOTHING to commend here these are basic flying techniques
You do realise a 747 is one of the hardest planes to fly. It takes loads of flight hours to properly fly a certain plane. For example if you fly a 737, you can't just go and then fly a 747 without any flight experience @tonymiller225
@@tonymiller225 the last 20 minutes of flight would have earned commend from me,,,,
I imagine it would make them a more valuable set of crew.
It always seems kind of iffy to throw people who have very real _'been there done that' experience_ under a bus instead of playing into it and honing those experiences for the better.
instead of the usual _'chop-it-down and throw new henchmen at it'_ bit(ie: less experienced replacements)
@@tonymiller225 i think the modern way of correcting mistakes - you did a mistake, so you will have to resign or we will fire you - is wrong. Doing mistakes is part of being human. What´s important tho, is how you will fix said mistake and whether you will learn from the experience or not. Too many good, skilled, experienced people (and not just in aviation) were fired/forced to resign for no actual reason other than "being not perfect enough".
I’m sure that horrific event still affects these people even today!!😮😮😮
You must be right!!!! Those poor people!!!!
I agree, impossible to forget such an experience 😮 !
When he was 15 Ritchie Valens' school had a disaster in which psrts of an exploding plane crashed in the school yard at his school.
Three boys were killed and 75 were injured.
Although he wasn't there that day Valens was afraid of flying after that incident.
As the world knows, Valens died at age 17 in a small plane crash.
I can't imagine his emotions when he realized that the plane was going to crash.
Mayday does such a great job with these videos.. It's amazing how the pilots handled this plane with all that damage.
Very informative. I had heard of this incident so I'm happy to have come across the investigation.
Aw, the 747, back when we could trust & respect Boeing Aircraft.
They’ve changed a lot in thirty years…
@@dennisyoung4631yes
Yes, humans make mistakes. The main point is that they all survived, which is what should be important 🙏🏼✨️✨️✨️
Shoutout to the captain asking if everyone's okay as soon as he had a break in the chaos
Back in the day, the exact functions of the autopilot weren't 100% clear, especially to pilots overseas. All manuals were translated to other languages and more than once, some bits of information were lost or mis-translated. There was a flight somewhere whereby the pilot let a kid into the captain's seat but the kid accidentally disengaged just one portion of the autopilot by turning the control column and that was like a dozen years after this flight 006. I believe that particular flight never recovered from the unexpected upset.
@@thatinventionsus it was a very unfortunate event too. It was basically human error piled upon human error. and the saddest part of it is that if the pilots would have (which to be fair no human i think actually could really do) just let go, the plane's autopilot would've saved the plane. Just such a pointless accident, caused by such bad luck and mistakes compounding. But it highlighted the importance of showing to the aviation world the importance of properly training crews about how the autopilot works.
arguably there is a question if the airbus or boeing way of automation is better, where airbus high level automation might have a tendency of making the pilots too confident in the computer, and unlikely to respond when things go wrong, while the boeing way might cause issues if the autopilot is not capable of doing simpler things the pilot would expect it to be able to do. And of course there's the potential for safeguards for the plane where even if there's a mistake, the plane can recover on its own.
i think you are talking about aeroflot Flight(i dont remember which flight it was but i know the airlines if i am not wrong)
Goes to show just how tough these airliners are - ironically though for all their engineered strength a simple faulty wire or blocked pitot can bring one down.
It was more luck and caution on the part of the captain idling his engines. Other dives have not been so fortunate.
Some of the best piloting I've ever seen.
@@underdogrising2895 except that for all the fundamental mistakes - assuming autopilot deals with the rudder, trying to restart an engine at high altitude, leaving the airflow on. Pilot error was the cause of the problem in the first place!
I think these pilots are heroes. After that whole turmoil they landed the plane without killing anyone. Good job pilots!
But they crew caused the situation by "fundamental mistakes," to quote this episode.
Most of the accidents are caused by pilot error. He did what hes supposed to do. He got them into the problem, but he also got them out of it. Lets focus on that. Everyone makes mistake, but the team was able to recover from that. Not alot of teams can do that.
Heroes?!?!?! They must be sent to prison!
@flogeiser819 if they were good pilots, they would have never got themselves in that situation. All of this was avoidable.
It's a good thing we're all allowed to our own opinion because mine isn't changing 😊
That first roll over would have given me a heart attack, would have never known we landed
I'd say God was with them!!
Yes! This was an absolute miracle!!
I hate flying but I love airplanes and I love this show. I’m sure watching this doesn’t help any but it’s so damn interesting.
I'm 2 scared,2 watch anymore. My flight 656,departs ✈️ in morning,2 NJ,USA. 🙏 Hoping it dont.......pray 4 me,n my prosty/ Jenny. ❤️🧡💛💚💙
@@DewYou-zn4ny Safe flight
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-11:49 - I was yelling at them the whole time to look at that!! And I’m not even a pilot!
Those pilots didn’t give up!
Great video it explains well and dives deep into the whole story of 006.
I would've died as soon as the airplane started the dive! 😂
I would have tightened my seat belt, pulled my hat down, and gone back to sleep if I could. It takes them a long time to reach sea level. Request everybody to keep quiet if they can. (yawn) Everything is under control, so "no fear!"
It's just like they say about parachuting: any landing you can walk away from is a good one.
I call this one, "When a Captain remembered, in the nick of time, that he is still supposed to be a pilot".
When I fly I keep my seatbelt tight except to use the restroom. Never take your seatbelt off in less you go to restroom. That way you and your family can be safe.
It is amazing that they lost complete control of the aircraft after flaming out one of four engines! If they had been professional and well trained pilots they would never have ended up in a situation like that from a simple flameout! I am shocked and hope this is not representative of the training the sivilian airline pilots get. As a military pilot this is something we practice regularly and is hardly looked at as an emergency.
Any sufficiently fatigued pilot civilian or military no matter how well trained could have lost it exactly like that.
Big difference between practice in a military fighter, and a 747 unexpectedly going out of control totally blind with hundreds of passengers on your tail.
Just flew back from Washington D.C. and I haven't flown in ten years. All I kept thinking about was that Aloha flight that lost it's roof over first class, which by the way, my wife and I flew round-trip first class for the first time in my 74 years on this rock. My seatbelt stayed fastened at all times. On a wing and a prayer we made it safely back home. I don't watch the videos where the plane crashed and no one survived. I like the ones like this one that show just how skilled these pilots are and no amount of technology can replace the human being's massive computer known as a brain.
It's the pilots that caused this in the first place, as a series of MISTAKES by the pilots caused all of this. They should have never put themselves in a situation that they were 25 seconds away from slamming water at supersonic speeds. That being said, you are 1,940 times more likely to die on your way to the airport than during your flight. At any given time, 15,500 to 17,500 of which 7,782 and 8,755 are commercial jets. Think about these numbers. At this time in the history of jet aircraft, the technology is older than you are, and they now are using AI to figure billions of potential scenarios. Every time a plane has an issue, the pilots report it, they are interviewed, and all the flight data is entered in the global aviation database. They are now working on a new system that will connect pilots and their plane directly to this system and transmit real time flight and performance data, and it will be able to tell the pilots exactly what the problem is and how to correct it. With this system, the flameout on 4 would have automatically triggered a connection to the system, and it would feed all flight data in real time, and the system would feed back the solution. The mechanics of flying are all based on math. AI is far more intelligent at processing information instantly and calculating insanely complex equations. AI is dangerous when used wrong, but when it's used right, such as giving pilots instructions and suggestions to save a plane, it's a brilliant application, and jet airliners will never again crash due to pilot errors. I suggest that you not be afraid of flying, and at your age, if you can afford it, I say that you should travel to far off places that you have always dreamed of seeing. When your time comes, you don't want your last thoughts to be of regret that you didn't try things that you wanted to do.
"People just popped up like popcorn"..... Well, that's quite a frivolous intro to this episode
Amazing pilots. I'm amazed noone in the back died from being thrown around and while serving breakfast with those heavy trolleys. Thank goodness for them being able to land after all that.
We hear flying is safer than driving , but after having drove millions of miles in a truck I've never had a ride so bad that I would have felt like applauding at the end of the trip .
@@normbrinkman On some flights the passengers always applaud at landing. I saw it on Philippine airlines.
@@normbrinkman that first rollover would have given me a heart attack, would have never known we landed
Considering a truck isn’t flying 41,000 feet in the air, it makes sense😂
I keep watching air crash and people keep telling me plane crashing are 0.0001% chance ... I don't think that is the case
At least I can pull over if I lose an engine . lol@@Siladzy
What an amazing story of a miracle that only God could be in control. I realize that the pilot and his flight crew did everything that they were trained to do. But the miracle was that in the midst of the fall, God knew that He had that airplane in the palm of His hands. Amen
Why did he let the incident happen in the first place then? So he could play god and fix it and everyone would say how wonderful he was? Not being rude, just asking.
So, according to this logic, in other air crashes with loss of life, God was no longer in control? Or turned his back those aboard?
Seemed like the Captain wasn't thinking very clearly. After the pull out of the fall, he wants to press on to LA anyway, rather than immediately declaring an emergency and landing in SF. My guess is he suspected that he'd F-ed up, and maybe there was a great deal of pressure to stay on schedule from the airline. But, after rolling in a tailspin toward the ocean for 10minutes, it just seems crazy that you wouldn't immediately land at the earliest opportunity. I think the show probably couldn't get the crew in for an interview for this production because they were to blame for what happened. Still, after the plane was severely damaged, the pilot should be commended for getting the plane finally on the ground. Crazy story. I guess we should all marvel that most planes fly without mishap, seemingly.
WOW WOW WOW, WHAT AMAZING PILOTS. I HAVE WATCHED SEVERAL OF THESE SHOWS AND I HAVE SEEN PLANES WITH LESS DAMAGE NOT MAKE IT. SO VERY IMPRESSIVE. I DON'T FLY, SCARES ME VERY MUCH BUT I WOULD FLY IF THESE PILOTS WERE THE ONES IN THE COCKPIT. JUST AMAZING AND I AM SO HAPPY EVERYONE WAS OKAY ❤
I had an attitude indicator fail in my plane once. fortunately the weather was clear. But, it was still disorienting because you become so dependent on the AI that you want to trust it, even though you can look out the window and see what level is while the AI is showing an abnormal attitude.
I always carry a block of sticky note for this reason. A dead instrument needs to be covered and can be incredibly dangerous
damn , .. now he is one badass pilot ! he kept his cool through it all , attitude & all .
he done so many things wrong
@@FelipeFalker Which no one will be more sorry about than him. The reasons for this have been mentioned and in the end the most important thing is how well it ended.
Kinda surprised they are fixated on pilot errors. No doubt, but when so many flights without problems, and suddenly in an emergency, with multi task issues, it is easy to reconstruct in our minds , what should have happened.
Amazing recovery by the pilots. Human error happens to everyone,
i dont think i would ever fly on a china Airlines. must of been well scary credit goes to the pilot well done live another day.
I would like to see only when passengers are saved
Flying magazine reported this accident (many years ago) and I clearly remember two parts of the report. The captain deliberately lowered the landing gear to reduce the airspeed knowing that the gear doors would be torn off and that is how large chunks of the horizontal tail went missing. This may have saved the jumbo from disintegrating. Then something else happened which I felt was really a design flaw.
All the load of generating the vacuum air required by the instruments* was automatically transferred to the number four engine which was not running, hence the strange instrument behavior The crew were very well trained but not for the combination of problems which came at them simultaneously. Under the circumstances they did a fantastic job just keeping their heads together. (*and autopilot)
True heroism "under fire."
The Captain didn't get proper sleep thus his judgment(s) was impaired to fly the plane properly.
People complaining have to realize that there are 3 different shows who put out similar accidents or the same accident.
Jetlag is no joke, I travel all over for work and it can affect you for days and some times over a week.
@@MrSigmatico try working a swing shift every week for 30 years!
@@paulne1514 M8 sounds horrible
I’ve flown many times from the states to Europe and back. 6-8 hours difference in time zones. To avoid jet lag, especially on long overseas flights… Leave and arrive a day early. Sleep in a dark hotel room whether it be for 4, 6, 8 or 10 hours…
You will wake up in a new time zone feeling refreshed and while you may still feel the effects, you’ll wake up on your second day with no jet lag.
@@jamiedarr Not entirely, when you have been gone long enough and you get home again you find yourself getting hungry at odd hours of the day for a week or more after you get home
One thing I don't think I will ever understand, whenever you see planes in this kind of distress, falling and rolling, you always see the overhead baggage bend doors flying open and bags flying everywhere. How is it possible, in this day and age, that they are unable to design doors that don't fly open in situations like this. Surely it can't be that difficult to create clasps that are able to securely hold a door shut. Its one thing if the whole plane is breaking up, then obviously there's nothing to be done there. But heavy turbulence, or even a plane rolling over, shouldn't have the doors flying open sending projectile baggage everywhere. That just doesn't make any sense to me.
Ah yes. Out of all of the things that happened here, you are worried about the overhead baggage doors
@@RINO8604 I'm sorry, I was unaware how the comments section worked, I guess. So we need to stick to subject matter that YOU deem important, and nothing else. I get it now. Appreciate the heads up. 🤭
@@RINO8604 Think about it this way: the last thing you want when something goes wrong is something else going wrong, even something comparatively minor. Loose luggage with the kind of G force in this incident can cause serious injury, and as Jeremy points out it should be a very simple fix
@@jeremybr2020 It’s nothing I deem important. There are people that got legitimate injuries due to the G-Forces and being thrown around the cabin. But baggage is more important
@@Findecommie Yes it can be fixed, but focus on the stuff that needs attention NOW
Hey, Stew! Could my wife and I get a few minutes in the crew quarters? We're prayed-up and ready to go, but The Mile High Club is on our bucket list, and this might be our last chance ... !
Thank You For Not Screaming!
Scary to find out it’s the incompetence of the crew started the whole process and continued through the whole ordeal. Even from a layman’s point of view they didn’t do even the basic things to correct the first engine problem. Imagine all those people’s lives gone in a perfectly working plane. I can’t help feeling that Chinese rules and regulations have something to do with this near tragedy
INCREDIBLE.
ABSOLUTEMENT..
I think that I would be freaking out and would probably miss all kinds of fundamentals. I would NOT make a good pilot. 😊
God bless these guys for staying focused and saving lives.
goes to show how well engineered the 747 really was
I still laugh about a comment someone made during the "pandemic". The guy said he had watched so many Maydays during that time he felt he could fly one of the jets. I had thought the same thing.
Who else finds these videos fascinating?!
Without being a pilot, my first reaction was: Why is the captain so focused on re-igniting engine 4? The plane can keep flying indefinitely on three engines. Forget about that engine, RUN THE CHECKLIST, shut it down, declare emergency and land safely! He even wanted to continue all the way to Los Angeles!
I didn't know Howard Hamlin is an aviation journalist too. Good to know that he's also a plane enthusiast.
One way to avoid pilot falling into spatial disorientation is probably to have a closed transparent bottle half filled with liquid installed in front of the pilots.
Even if the electronic instruments would fail , that little bottle will always show whether or not the plane is horizontal or not.
“…the bird was *eight miles high…”*
42,240 ~ 41,000 ft
Very glad they made it.
And there it is.... you know there's a major problem with a government when their officials get to be flown first class🙄
@@Standing.W.Israel At that time, they may still have been booking first class, but they changed the rules at some point. Now the frequent government flyers tend to use points or get upgrades because of their rewards status when they fly first class.
@mamaduntoldu7065 still... who was paying for it? Wasn't coming out of their own pockets. I can guarantee it.
I think the pilot's mind had gone one dimensional; that he wanted to continue normally after such an ordeal. There was also something strange in how he addressed the people after the ordeal. Looks like he was on autopilot, not meaning to make a joke.
7:40 No airline pilot would lose their ability to keep wings level without outside references. The pilot would just use the attitude indicator.
And who's to say that the indicator is working properly?
@@andreww1001 If it's not, you should not fly.
@@erictaylor5462 You do realize you're not smart. 😂😂😂 It can literally appear that it's working correctly but it's not.
Even Denzel couldn't save this plane
So, finally the screw was not heroes, he made many big mistakes. The only good thing was that the screw had saved the situation at the las minutes, with talent, alright. The plane did not crash, it is a miracle.
I like how he said hope you enjoyed the flight
@28:31 He's got the BIOS screen up to help him investigate!
Why was landing at San Fran ever an issue? Surely to God he wasn't really just going to carry on to LA after all that?
That air crash consultant sounds exactly like Pierce Brosnan
The simulations in this video seem to show a 747-300. The accident plane was a 747-SP.
So?
"Wow what a rush man!!!"
"How was it for u darling?"
"Aaaaarrrrrggghhh"
There is no such thing as a 4 engine plane that can't fly on 3 engines! PERIOD
They really don't give a good sense of time. I don't know how long the fall lasted and how long the pilots had to react.
@@ostrichfight I was thinking the same thing, they definitely made the fall seem longer I thought
Wouldnt have thought much doubt about it mayday mayday mayday, labd as aoon as possible.
I hate long trips in my car but I would prefer to be the loose nut behind the wheel any day
Wow... I'm so emotional right now😭❤
Why they don t declare Emergency is my only thought
After that…well…what a flight..what a GREAT COCKPIT CREW !!
In the video, they did declare emergency, at 19:18.
@@GH-oi2jf miss it, thanks
The airport authorities should not comments on captain on board at that instant tension situation during vertical dissent humans brain ie Captain's will have no time to see the panels whether they are functioning properly , they might have made mistakes but the investigating authorities should not comments sitting at the ground level but they should also verify themselves at that situation for themselves on board and pass on comments. Which is not advisable. Pilots and their crue members at that instant will try only to save their passengers life most valuable along with plain they will try to maximum efforts to save control of plane along with passenger's life's with great efforts either hook or crook. In order to safe landing plane thru might have broken barriers and ultimately they have done best job in landing plane safely at the airport. Most Best job they have done. Very very Good. Congrats.
why the stalling of declaring an emergency after such a fall from the sky?
aviation geeks here
Thousands of hours, especially with how much the electronics of the plane assist, doesn't = experience. Half the time, pilots aren't even flying, the plane's electronics are doing the work.
im sobbing 😭
Does anybody know if the pilot and the rest of the pilot crew kept the job?
2:13 Two captains flying the plane is wild 💀
To answer your question, I’ve never seen this video before. I would guess that there are many more people haven’t seen this either.
I was on this actual flight bill peacock was spitting feathers
Wow! Congratulations on surviving this dire mess!
I was on that flight and I was scared for my life I am not joking