Turkish Airlines Passengers Suddenly Fall Out Of The Plane Mid-Air | Air Crash Confidential S1 E4

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  • Опубликовано: 11 мар 2024
  • The crash of TW Flight 800, initially suspected as terrorism, is revealed to be due to a cargo door blowing open mid-flight, leading to cabin depressurization and loss of control.
    Another incident involves a Turkish Airlines DC-10 where a cargo door failure results in cabin depressurization, causing passengers to be swept out of the plane to their deaths.
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  • @lesliebblack
    @lesliebblack Месяц назад +250

    So difficult to watch. My husband’s mother was on Turkish Air 981 on 3rd of March, 1974- the 50 year anniversary just passed 2 weeks ago. She was British, returning from Istanbul on British Airways, but was diverted to this flight due to the strike. My husband was 17, & had 2 brothers 14 & 20. Their father had remarried & was not involved in their lives. They didn’t know she was on this flight, & the 14 year old was excited to have volunteered to take the tube to meet her flight. There was no crisis management or protocols in those days. Her BA flight said cancelled but there was mayhem & confusion at the airport in London. The brothers collectively figured out she was on the plane that had crashed. My husband & his older brother went to an air hanger in Orly, France, to look at bodies & parts of bodies to see if they could identify their mother, which they could not. There were aisles of tables set up with passengers belongings & they took what they identified as their mother’s. Not just the loss, but the aftermath had a profound impact on these 3 boys lives. The youngest ultimately, in an indirect manner, lost his life as a result. My husband says not a day goes by he doesn’t relive that day. In tragedies like this, most people who haven’t experienced anything similar, focus on the tragic loss of life…but most tragic are the loved ones left behind.

    • @cmichelle6888
      @cmichelle6888 Месяц назад +21

      You are so right! Its the loved ones that suffer the most!

    • @thies7831
      @thies7831 Месяц назад +6

      On the 2nd of March 2024, Turkish Airlines linked Melbourne, Australia to their network. To my knowledge, neither on TV nor radio, not much was mentioned of the DC-10 disaster. It just didn't fit the marketing strategy of Turkish rising further on the airline battlefield of raising profits and competing against the safest airline in the world, QANTAS.

    • @lintlickers
      @lintlickers Месяц назад +2

      what about the meatball hoagies?

    • @juliemanarin4127
      @juliemanarin4127 Месяц назад +8

      I'm so very sorry 😢❤

    • @juliemanarin4127
      @juliemanarin4127 Месяц назад +3

      ​@lintlickers what's that supposed to mean?

  • @PrettyVacant45988
    @PrettyVacant45988 Месяц назад +418

    GE fired my husband because he refused to take 'engineering shortcuts'. Those shortcuts' killed people. He grieved to death. Now i grieve.

    • @Maven0666
      @Maven0666 Месяц назад +53

      Sorry. That’s so typical of what happened to all kinds of ppl in the 80’s. I am glad I lived through the last flight I took. TWA and ValuJet were idiots. The flights I was on both had issues next time out. Exposed for greeedddy bastards.

    • @iLoveBoysandBerries
      @iLoveBoysandBerries Месяц назад +7

      Yawn

    • @johnnunn8688
      @johnnunn8688 Месяц назад +36

      I truly feel for your husband (RIP) as I have been disbelieved too. 😢

    • @desdicadoric
      @desdicadoric Месяц назад +21

      I’m sorry to hear that

    • @johnnunn8688
      @johnnunn8688 Месяц назад +29

      Any way you could bring yourself to tell the whole story? You never know, it could cause someone to have a conscience, become a whistleblower and save lives. 🤞🙏

  • @LeslieHuh
    @LeslieHuh Месяц назад +196

    the same corporate environment that created the dc 10 also created the 737 max

    • @BigEightiesNewWave
      @BigEightiesNewWave Месяц назад +2

      One person doing maintenance left 4 bolts off. Big deal.

    • @Herowebcomics
      @Herowebcomics Месяц назад +27

      @@BigEightiesNewWaveActually, I think they are talking about the MCAS system.

    • @Snarf_Le_Wombat
      @Snarf_Le_Wombat Месяц назад +31

      The big deal is that it's 2024 so it's kind of unacceptable when there are only two players in the international commercial aviation market and one seems to be completely incompetent, negligent, and rotten to the core even assassinating it's own ex employee whistleblower 😮​@@BigEightiesNewWave

    • @RicardoVanHouten
      @RicardoVanHouten Месяц назад +7

      @@Snarf_Le_Wombat we have more, Lockhead Martin, Embraer and Bombardier they still make aircraft but most of them do small aircrafts for domestic flights not as big as boeing and airbus but they are still in the game

    • @johnnunn8688
      @johnnunn8688 Месяц назад +5

      @@BigEightiesNewWaveeducate yourself, troll.

  • @ddwkc
    @ddwkc Месяц назад +178

    These corporate suits should be in prison for decades.

    • @REBECCA12341
      @REBECCA12341 Месяц назад

      Dog not allowed ect

    • @harold.one.feather
      @harold.one.feather 9 дней назад

      FBI needs a realignment, a very serious redirection from looking at outsiders as dangers and look at those on the inside with the most to lose

    • @ColdDrink25
      @ColdDrink25 9 часов назад

      thats why i cant stand people who wear suits, you cant trust em

  • @davewelch151
    @davewelch151 Месяц назад +182

    The 'run of the mill' design engineers put their heart and soul into the job. It is the senior management and finance side of the industry who cause the most problems.

    • @AmericaVoice
      @AmericaVoice Месяц назад +13

      100%

    • @ridinglow6732
      @ridinglow6732 Месяц назад +5

      They’re all at fault equally, stop the bs.

    • @Mercmad
      @Mercmad Месяц назад +4

      D E I .

    • @TheSnoeedog
      @TheSnoeedog Месяц назад +2

      what?!??! the bean counters and vampires? no......

    • @Wolfboy183
      @Wolfboy183 Месяц назад

      of course the engineers will be blamed.

  • @Innominatus911
    @Innominatus911 Месяц назад +125

    These are not the results of engineering errors. These are the results of corporate errors...

  • @MissTokePanda
    @MissTokePanda Месяц назад +54

    The "Pilots got lucky" is both true and wildly giving those pilots less credit than they deserved when they had to fight their DC9 back to the ground. They had to literally pull those cables free with just their own strength. They sawed through the thing crimping the cables. It was insane.

    • @harrietharlow9929
      @harrietharlow9929 Месяц назад +2

      The American flight? That was some badass flying by the pilots. 100%.

    • @BirdTalk13
      @BirdTalk13 Месяц назад

      Whoa! 😮

    • @kay9549
      @kay9549 Месяц назад

      @@harrietharlow9929 will have to view the video in its entirety before making a comment. How long ago did this happen? Just tossing the question out there, no worries..

    • @harrietharlow9929
      @harrietharlow9929 Месяц назад +1

      @@kay9549 The American flight over Windsor ON where the cargo door blew off happened June 12, 1972.

    • @kay9549
      @kay9549 Месяц назад +1

      Ty harrietharlow9929 do remember that flight, they were able to land the craft even after car do door, blew off. They were fortunate they did not have there hydraulics completely severed. There was another flight that the engine was incorrectly mounted, which had fracture fatigue. Even though the engine sheared off in doing so severed the hydraulic system, pilots were not able to maintain that flight

  • @marlonhernandez8411
    @marlonhernandez8411 Месяц назад +47

    49:00 and here we are,40-60 years later having the same issues as when it all started,doors blown at mid air,tires falling off on takeoff,pilot and copilots napping while driving 😮‍💨

    • @metamorphicme9378
      @metamorphicme9378 Месяц назад +4

      It's wild!😮😮😮 Do we ever learn? Then again, a billionaire is supposedly building a replica of The Titanic set to sail 2027. Humans!!!! SMDH

    • @marlonhernandez8411
      @marlonhernandez8411 Месяц назад

      @@metamorphicme9378 😨😨

    • @bunzeebear2973
      @bunzeebear2973 Месяц назад +1

      That is why they lock the door...sleepy time

    • @ngozinwankwo5051
      @ngozinwankwo5051 Месяц назад +1

      So unfortunate

    • @brianmaitai7685
      @brianmaitai7685 Месяц назад

      Some hit the Grey Goose a few hours before the flight and zone off like stoners...But hey, at least we have ejection seats....NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @roximusmaximus195
    @roximusmaximus195 Месяц назад +33

    One minute your chilling in your seat...the next you are hurtling through the air towards the earth..what a way to go man 😔

  • @cassandrasuzannelalonde4758
    @cassandrasuzannelalonde4758 Месяц назад +107

    I am not afraid of flying, I am afraid of suddenly hitting the ground

    • @guillermoalbarran8199
      @guillermoalbarran8199 Месяц назад +2

      That’s called afraid of flying

    • @johnnunn8688
      @johnnunn8688 Месяц назад +5

      Six inches before the aircraft strikes the ground, simply step off.

    • @philliplow165
      @philliplow165 Месяц назад +4

      Deceleration Trauma

    • @lino222
      @lino222 Месяц назад +2

      @@johnnunn8688i've seen that Pink Panther episode... :)

    • @darlawittmier1793
      @darlawittmier1793 Месяц назад +7

      I'm the same way. It's the sudden stop that I don't like. 😊

  • @MeduseldRabbit
    @MeduseldRabbit Месяц назад +66

    "Boeing learned their lesson..." Um, about that....

    • @dianneD27
      @dianneD27 Месяц назад +18

      Yer they just killed the whistle blower IMO

    • @Jeff-sp7bg
      @Jeff-sp7bg Месяц назад +3

      There are going to be mishaps with millions of takeoffs and landings per year I'm amazed there aren't more crashes. Flying is much much safer. In the 60s and 70s u would have 2 or 3 major accidents every year just in the US alone. One year I think 1987 there were over 20 I believe

    • @robertsmart5600
      @robertsmart5600 Месяц назад

      Boeing should not have joined DC-10 disaster Mcdonnel Douglas corporate culture of profit before safety!!!

    • @REBECCA12341
      @REBECCA12341 Месяц назад

      ​@@robertsmart5600dog not allowed ect

    • @REBECCA12341
      @REBECCA12341 Месяц назад

      ​@@Jeff-sp7bgdog not allowed ect

  • @murrayeldred3563
    @murrayeldred3563 Месяц назад +6

    Being a Technical Airline Investigator must require amazing experience, education and street sense. Incredible people.

  • @alimaninny5343
    @alimaninny5343 Месяц назад +18

    The Turkish Airlines flight was in 1974, 50 years ago. The TWA flight was in 1996, 28 years ago. Sensational video titles (people falling from planes😮) with content from half a century ago for clickbaiting.

    • @cchris874
      @cchris874 Месяц назад +3

      But it is true though. They did fall out. So not the worst case of click bait.

    • @cattymajiv
      @cattymajiv Месяц назад +4

      And it's all still VERY relevant!

    • @jasonmaccoul
      @jasonmaccoul Месяц назад +2

      Clickbait for sure. This episode has been posted before. Dramatic thumbnail to lure you in. RUclips needs to punish these and not other content creators that are doing good works.

    • @cchris874
      @cchris874 Месяц назад +1

      @@jasonmaccoul
      I agree it's a bit sensational. But in this case, hardly worst case click bait. Six people LITERALLY DID suddenly fall out of a DC-10 over the suburbs of Paris. And if the objection is that there was no actual live video of them falling, that's an unreasonable expectation. Actual live footage of such things is extremely rare. This is such a far cry from genuine click bait.

    • @AndreaRojas-mc9wg
      @AndreaRojas-mc9wg Месяц назад

      Agreed.

  • @harrietharlow9929
    @harrietharlow9929 Месяц назад +11

    So tragic, especially when crashes are avoidable. The only comfort is that changes were made that will save lives in future. My heart goes out to the loved ones of all those who died in these avoidable crashes. Also, kudos to the pilots of the British Triple 7 who landed their plane and all lives saved.

  • @Stan_in_Shelton_WA
    @Stan_in_Shelton_WA Месяц назад +9

    You can't predict the unpredictable but you can anticipate the unexpected and plan around that.

  • @vanishingflower2795
    @vanishingflower2795 Месяц назад +15

    Twa 800, the moment they mentioned the teenagers, it hurt. Those teenagers, my mothers friend, her best friend, died that day. She can't talk about it 30 years later. She's still hellbent that her friends were victims of terrorism and I don't blame her

    • @lonniemonroe2714
      @lonniemonroe2714 Месяц назад +3

      Look at the flight list. Any high ranking people on board. Not the first time a whole plane was taken out just to get one or two individuals. Rest are just collateral damage.

    • @elaineleonard9526
      @elaineleonard9526 Месяц назад

      TWA 800 was shot down by our own military during war exercises in that area. It was a huge blunder that cost 100’s of lives and the gov will not admit to it to this day. Bill Clinton is a sleazy p.o.s. Center fuel tank leak is an incredulous explanation. Shame on this country.

    • @REBECCA12341
      @REBECCA12341 Месяц назад

      Dog not allowed ect

    • @REBECCA12341
      @REBECCA12341 Месяц назад

      Dog not allowed ect

    • @markdanz7039
      @markdanz7039 28 дней назад

      Yeah that was just heartbreaking, I have nieces and nephews that age 😢

  • @alexamolendyk8107
    @alexamolendyk8107 Месяц назад +10

    And this is why I keep my feet firmly on the ground, I'll never set foot in a plane.
    Famous line from the Mummy Returns: Why can't you people ever keep your feet on the ground?

    • @cchris874
      @cchris874 Месяц назад +4

      I hope you don't drive either, as you might end up as one of the many thousands who die on the roads each year. On US airlines over the last 23 years, excepting only the regionals, there has been but a single fatality. Try beating those odds with your car.

    • @cattymajiv
      @cattymajiv Месяц назад +2

      @@cchris874 When I used to skydive, people used to say that the most dangerous part of skydiving was the drive out to the airfield.

  • @doloreswinsbarrow1110
    @doloreswinsbarrow1110 Месяц назад +12

    Don't know much about airplanes engineering, but it's 😢to hear all these people lost their life.

  • @TitusObbayi
    @TitusObbayi Месяц назад +18

    I'm surprised it didn't include Swissair 111. That was a horrific error in design

    • @abenirex
      @abenirex Месяц назад +2

      That was an MD-11, not a DC-10.

    • @kay9549
      @kay9549 Месяц назад +1

      In reference to the twa 800 flight, plane was on tarmac for many hours, also it was a very hot day. While they were waiting to leave, air conditioning was running constantly. The fuel tanks were not fully tapped off, so fumes, vapors were heated by the air condition that were below them. Pilots were unaware of status of flight till they went to designated attitude. So tragic, decompression, etc, hopefully as they were breaking up, descending to earth it was over quickly, hopefully so.

    • @user-lv7ph7hs7l
      @user-lv7ph7hs7l Месяц назад

      ​@@abenirex Although MD11 is the continuation of the DC10 after McDonnel and Douglas Corporation merger. So it is essentially largely the same aircraft.

  • @buddyboyudon
    @buddyboyudon Месяц назад +13

    I have closed these "Hold 5" doors hundreds of times. The system is to press a lever until the door closes.Then keep closing the door until a small indicator light turns off. Then the pull a large lever down to close the latch. But If the door is not fully closed, I wonder if it is displayed in the cockpit!

    • @cchris874
      @cchris874 Месяц назад +1

      Sometimes yes sometimes no. In the case of Turkish Airlines, they actually disabled the indicator light.

    • @cattymajiv
      @cattymajiv Месяц назад +2

      WOW! We hear that so often!

  • @peterjones4621
    @peterjones4621 Месяц назад +23

    This is just heartbreaking to watch... ❤❤❤

  • @Thearvdr
    @Thearvdr Месяц назад +70

    I keep on seeing this stories about tragedies and weird stuff happening in planes it makes me not want to fly at all ever.

    • @wumpygaming
      @wumpygaming Месяц назад +5

      I understand the fear but you gotta realize that statistically, these things will never happen to you

    • @user-sy8kj5nn8s
      @user-sy8kj5nn8s Месяц назад +8

      They say it is the safest way to fly yet the series mayday which talks about plane crashes & series problem with planes sometimes they land but mostly they crash & there is 17 seasons of this series with around 12-14 episodes per seasons. ?????

    • @voraciousreader3341
      @voraciousreader3341 Месяц назад +1

      This is from so long ago, maybe more than 20 years! There hasn’t been a major American crash since maybe 2002, but I don’t believe it was a huge loss of life.

    • @gregmiller9710
      @gregmiller9710 Месяц назад +4

      ...studies have shown the one is less likely to die in a plane crash, but not guaranteed., IF you stay off them.....

    • @barbarachambers7974
      @barbarachambers7974 Месяц назад +4

      And considering how many issues are in the news, it is amazing anybody wants to fly nowadays.

  • @Brock_Landers
    @Brock_Landers Месяц назад +16

    I flew on a few DC-10s back in the day, luckily enough for my family and I the cargo door never blew off the side of the plane...

    • @Anna-Rose-
      @Anna-Rose- Месяц назад

      The second plane I ever flew on was a DC-10. I was a teenager at the time.

  • @FullFinnoy
    @FullFinnoy Месяц назад +13

    The wreckage was so fragmented that it was difficult to determine whether any parts of the aircraft were missing before it crashed. Post-crash fire were small because there were few large pieces of the aircraft left intact to burn. Of the 346 passengers and crew on board, only 188 bodies were identifiable (40 of which were identified visually), with rescue teams recovering some 20,000 body fragments in all.

    • @cchris874
      @cchris874 Месяц назад +4

      And Turkish Airlines, unbeknownst to most, tinkered with the door system shortly before the crash, which is why it was able to avoid destruction during its 1st year of operation.

  • @StayPositive-sd8op
    @StayPositive-sd8op Месяц назад +44

    Could you imagine walking out your front door to leave for work and there's a row of seats with bodies strapped in and it's in the upright position facing the street? And there's nothing unusual all around your house and I don't know about the plane accident.

    • @swaggerish
      @swaggerish Месяц назад +21

      *bodies
      *Strapped
      *Facing
      *Street
      *Plane
      I just couldn't help myself lol

    • @mariekatherine5238
      @mariekatherine5238 Месяц назад +13

      couldn’t
      there’s
      it’s

    • @swaggerish
      @swaggerish Месяц назад +9

      @@mariekatherine5238 I was trying to let him slide with those three, but you're absolutely correct friend! 🤣🤣🤣

    • @TheJurnalyst
      @TheJurnalyst Месяц назад +6

      ​@@swaggerish I'm pedantic too...

    • @swaggerish
      @swaggerish Месяц назад +6

      @@TheJurnalyst So you feel me! 😂

  • @juliemanarin4127
    @juliemanarin4127 Месяц назад +7

    TWA 800...what a horrible tragedy! 😢

  • @f.k.b.16
    @f.k.b.16 Месяц назад +37

    Corporate Greed is not Engineering Error

    • @kayquanong4560
      @kayquanong4560 Месяц назад +1

      true

    • @cchris874
      @cchris874 Месяц назад +1

      Neither is making a plane more dangerous, as was the case with Turkish Airlines just some weeks before the Paris crash.

  • @user-ec4xc5dl4j
    @user-ec4xc5dl4j Месяц назад +9

    Reminded me the story about the flight of United Airlines 811. The same problem with the laggedg door and the door construction looked similar

    • @cchris874
      @cchris874 Месяц назад

      Except there was no cover-up.

  • @reginamaraist3340
    @reginamaraist3340 Месяц назад +10

    WATCHING THESE AIR DISASTERS, I AM COMMITTED NEVER TO TAKE ANOTHER PLANE.

    • @NikD7
      @NikD7 Месяц назад +3

      If you See an car accident you are committed to not take a car anymore

    • @nancywhitaker5096
      @nancywhitaker5096 Месяц назад

      I used to fly all the time in the 70's. I never fly at all anymore and have not in about 25 years.

    • @nancywhitaker5096
      @nancywhitaker5096 Месяц назад

      @@NikD7 You have not far to fall from a car. 30,000 feet is a long way down.

    • @MrLabtec70
      @MrLabtec70 Месяц назад +1

      That reassure me! I wouldn't want to fly with passengers like you.... I prefer learners ;-)

    • @GusHeck
      @GusHeck Месяц назад

      @@nancywhitaker5096 Falling 300 ft or 30000 feet is the same thing. Neither falling nor driving fast ever killed anyone. But a fast stop from either condition certainly will. The chance of dying per hour spent in a car is way higher than per hour spent in a plane. Finally, since most crashes happen at landing or takeoff 95% of people involved in an airplane crash survive (only 80% for non-commercial general aviation however). These events are so very rare that youtubers run out of things to talk about. I have heard separate videos individually dedicated to each and every one of these crashes... This one is interesting because it draws a common thread through them.

  • @MichaelMencher
    @MichaelMencher Месяц назад +12

    Brand New Brand New Mayday! Enjoy watching, but Truly scared to Fly anymore. 😨 Just goes to show, Life is precious.❤

    • @kimberlyreed3539
      @kimberlyreed3539 Месяц назад

      I was never afraid to fly, until I started watching these videos. I get where you are coming from. My husband says, "just stop watching them!!" I can't. Ive seen all 19 seasons of Mayday Air Disasters....lol Its intriguing I can"t stop .watching. When a new one comes out, I'm watching, before any thing else...lol ....Probably a sickness, huh?..lol

  • @kungazopa2831
    @kungazopa2831 Месяц назад +22

    PLEASE when making these type of sensational videos and films stop adding such unpleasant noise competing with the narrator's voice. Listeners do not need to be wanged out with such unpleasant loud and background noise.

    • @foff-666
      @foff-666 Месяц назад +1

      Wanged out :) lol... NUMBER WANG!

    • @jeffbguarino
      @jeffbguarino 5 дней назад

      I didn't notice the background noise or sounds but what does really really bother me is when they put the hand signers up beside some official speaking. It is so distracting , that I can't listen to what the speaker is saying and my head hurts. I have to shut it off. This is when they have CC and all the speaking is converted to text for those who are deaf. No one needs the hand signers any longer. They are old technology.
      To me these hand signers are like listening to an English speaker with another language like Chinese loudly broadcasting at the same time. Try to listen to two languages at the same time. Sometimes you do hear this in a translated documentary or old movie.

  • @j-man6001
    @j-man6001 Месяц назад +17

    Boeing- "The New McDonnel Douglas"

    • @paulsuprono7225
      @paulsuprono7225 Месяц назад

      That's 'McDonnell' . . . 😬

    • @cattymajiv
      @cattymajiv Месяц назад +1

      @@paulsuprono7225 Nitpicking.

    • @j-man6001
      @j-man6001 Месяц назад

      Not anymore....@@paulsuprono7225

    • @j-man6001
      @j-man6001 Месяц назад

      sadly not anymore :(@@paulsuprono7225

  • @johnnunn8688
    @johnnunn8688 Месяц назад +20

    People have to remember, this video is about design failures. The one constant in aircraft accidents, is that AIRCREW ERROR has ALWAYS been the highest reason for crashes, by far. So, this video, is a drop in the ocean. The worst accident in history, Tenerife, was aircrew error.

    • @johngacsi7000
      @johngacsi7000 Месяц назад +5

      EVERY. TIME. AN. ACCIDENT. HAPPENS. - THE. 1. ST. , BRAINSTORM. ,, IS. TO. BLAME. PILOT. ERROR. !

    • @george6977
      @george6977 Месяц назад +2

      ​@@johngacsi7000
      Because it's the most likely cause. There was even a suicidal pilot who crashed deliberately wasn't there?

  • @dcallan812
    @dcallan812 Месяц назад

    the first few flights I took as a child were all on DC10 Airplanes, after the crashed had happened. I never gave it a second thought. 👍👍 Great video

  • @maxinefreeman8858
    @maxinefreeman8858 Месяц назад +7

    What gets me is sometimes it's a small thing that brings the plane down. Might be where a mechanic doesn't put the washer on, so the bolt will drop.

    • @silentservant_
      @silentservant_ Месяц назад +3

      The thing is that the airline manufactures like Boeing and Airbus have very clear, well designed and detailed sychmatics for Airlines to follow during maintenance. Down to the very bolt and even what pressure it should be tightened too. The problem arises when the airlines take short cuts at the cost of grater profits for them

    • @Geronimo2Fly
      @Geronimo2Fly Месяц назад +1

      British Airways Flight 5390. A window held on with bolts that were just a fraction off in size, so minor that the maintenance person couldn't visually tell the difference. Luckily everyone survived due to masterful flying by the First Officer. Even the Captain, who had been ripped halfway out of the plane, survived. Something that you'd think would be incredibly minor could have killed everyone on board.

    • @cattymajiv
      @cattymajiv Месяц назад +3

      @@silentservant_ And human error, which is equally common.

    • @user-lv7ph7hs7l
      @user-lv7ph7hs7l Месяц назад +1

      ​@@silentservant_ It's less than 2 months since a brand new liner lost a door plug due to missing bolts from the factory. Generally yes it's maintenance issues and the airline does that but factory issues do exist. Especially McDonnell and later Boeing.

  • @tonymillward3755
    @tonymillward3755 Месяц назад +22

    Why is the Ice Pilots advert three times the volume of the documentary?...it's annoying.

    • @connorjones3080
      @connorjones3080 Месяц назад +6

      It’s called a advert buddy deal with it

    • @motionless_horizon
      @motionless_horizon Месяц назад +4

      You get the entire 50 minute episode for free instead of having to have cable or a streaming service. Advertising is how they make money, it is what it is.

    • @gjk540
      @gjk540 Месяц назад +1

      @@connorjones3080 "... an advert"

    • @connorjones3080
      @connorjones3080 Месяц назад

      @@gjk540 what?

    • @lindengriffith1966
      @lindengriffith1966 Месяц назад

      😊😊​@@motionless_horizon

  • @jamesreichardt7573
    @jamesreichardt7573 Месяц назад +14

    The best. Way to avoid dying in an aircraft crash is to not fly !

    • @user-px2mu1rd5b
      @user-px2mu1rd5b Месяц назад +5

      Gosh James I do believe you could be right

    • @MrJay84b
      @MrJay84b Месяц назад +7

      The best way to avoid dying in general is to not be born 😉

    • @frankwillimasugwu6938
      @frankwillimasugwu6938 Месяц назад +2

      Oh?
      How about sleeping in your bed and u were suddenly woken up by a debris of an air plane falling down from the sky?

    • @robertdennis3892
      @robertdennis3892 Месяц назад +1

      To fly is to live more fully.

    • @evelyn.embers
      @evelyn.embers Месяц назад +1

      the best way to avoid dying in a car crash is to not drive, the best way to avoid dying in a ski accident is to not ski

  • @frankponsiano2269
    @frankponsiano2269 Месяц назад +10

    Very sad disaster to the families who lost lives. Almighty rest their souls in internal peace.

  • @AmericaVoice
    @AmericaVoice Месяц назад +5

    Require passenger aircraft cargo doors to be like the exit doors. Have Cargo planes be able to secure the cockpit cabin with a safety system if you have to have a outward type door system!

  • @thepvporg
    @thepvporg Месяц назад +3

    It also amazes me why the flight and voice recorders are not made to float when there is a crash or inflate a large baloon to indicate their location more easily.

    • @TeddyBear-ii4yc
      @TeddyBear-ii4yc Месяц назад

      They'd float away... I think they're happy with the design system as is?

  • @henrysantos7160
    @henrysantos7160 Месяц назад +7

    Excellent doc like always

  • @SheepishBuffalo
    @SheepishBuffalo Месяц назад +9

    Boeing whistleblower did NOT kill himself.

    • @user-lv7ph7hs7l
      @user-lv7ph7hs7l Месяц назад

      We shall see but circumstances are suspicious.

  • @jameswest8280
    @jameswest8280 27 дней назад +1

    "A boom in air travel", poor choice of words.

  • @conzmoleman
    @conzmoleman Месяц назад +8

    this WAS terrorism. massive coverup.

    • @cattymajiv
      @cattymajiv Месяц назад +2

      Care to explain WHY?

    • @conzmoleman
      @conzmoleman Месяц назад

      @@cattymajiv the US gov’t is the embodiment of evil. the literal fourth reich. and they act with total impunity. is my answer. there is a small chance the US blew up the flight by accident. but they did it one way or the other.

    • @morsmordre3
      @morsmordre3 Месяц назад

      It’s just a matter of exposed circuitry in the fuel tanks.

  • @f.k.b.16
    @f.k.b.16 Месяц назад +8

    (In a dramatic voice)
    ~ Engineering Error ~

  • @angelaberni8873
    @angelaberni8873 Месяц назад +6

    I was on holiday on long Island when this happened and i remember not being allowed to go near the beach. It was cordoned off because of the crash. Rip 😢😢

    • @bzeeb
      @bzeeb Месяц назад

      When did this happen actually.

  • @Maven0666
    @Maven0666 Месяц назад +2

    The rearranging 1975 part was f**ckin funny! I remember 1975 the exact same way. Now look. Quite a big difference. Mayday and your writing on this one is Super awesomeness! The past was a crazy place. The seventies were just getting started..

  • @kibaki77
    @kibaki77 10 дней назад

    wow Tripple 7 Safety history is remarkable...13 years without a single accident up to 2008, and still the 2008 accident, no lives were lost...extraordinary!.

  • @jock3l
    @jock3l Месяц назад +7

    "The need to make money" - Well, some money? Yes. But not the greedy kind of money that everyone has been after for a long time, almost everywhere in every company in the world. Lives should be worth more than greed

    • @mwngw
      @mwngw Месяц назад

      Should we Americans not finally admit this predatory style of Capitalism does not work? It is not real Capitalism if it ignores human beings and national well-being.

  • @wexfordgirl1
    @wexfordgirl1 Месяц назад +1

    Excellent documentary. Thank you.

  • @Sandra-hk8ks
    @Sandra-hk8ks Месяц назад +1

    Makes one feel all warm and fuzzy about trusting any planes

  • @Agapy8888
    @Agapy8888 Месяц назад

    I used to work doing weight and balance for eastern airlines.
    Figuring out where to put cargo, bags, amount of fuel for flight for round trip on short haul flights, wind direction , runway, flaps settings and centre of gravity. My favourite was airbus airplanes.
    Always made sure my numbers were correct before releasing the flight.
    Used to get American flight from Chicago to handle it while on the ground.
    It was a big hassle to work those flights. They were DC10.

  • @jaisabai4155
    @jaisabai4155 Месяц назад +5

    "It's caused by some sort of a bomb, obviously".
    FBI spokesman. 👎

    • @zmack862
      @zmack862 Месяц назад +1

      Some say he was right... The investigation of this crash was very messy and there are a lot of alternative spins on it, due to the official narrative's inconsistencies.

  • @arribaficationwineho32
    @arribaficationwineho32 Месяц назад +2

    It is amazing that they can reconstruct planes from wreckage.

  • @voraciousreader3341
    @voraciousreader3341 Месяц назад +16

    These individual crashes are horrific and the loss of life incalculable, but when you think of the who knows how many millions of passengers who’ve been safely flown from the beginning of civilian flights, the total numbers of people killed pale in comparison.

    • @SirHumphrey498
      @SirHumphrey498 Месяц назад +4

      you must be fun at parties

    • @johnnunn8688
      @johnnunn8688 Месяц назад +3

      The loss of life isn’t incalculable, they check the pax manifests and count the dead.

    • @davewelch151
      @davewelch151 Месяц назад +2

      You cannot justify the design fault by quoting the number of successful flights, that is a senior management argument. I empathize with the designers, I worked on the design teams of several aircraft, civilian and military.

  • @barbarachambers7974
    @barbarachambers7974 Месяц назад +16

    There is No passenger falling out of a plane. No idea why this is in the title.

    • @Chew1964
      @Chew1964 Месяц назад +4

      It’s mentioned at 16 minutes.

    • @barbarachambers7974
      @barbarachambers7974 Месяц назад +2

      @Chew1964 the two rows of seats.. I don't remember the nationally being mentioned though...

    • @jocbt
      @jocbt Месяц назад +1

      The 6 passengers from the explosive decompression cause by the cargo door latch failing.

    • @amberfitz-randolph392
      @amberfitz-randolph392 Месяц назад +6

      ​@@barbarachambers7974are you trying to say "nationality"? Why? Nobody claimed what nationality passengers who fell out of the plane in the rows of seats even are. First you claim nobody falls out so you have "no idea" why thats even in the title. Now you say you don't remember their NATIONALITY being mentioned but that's because it WASN'T mentioned & you are the only one bringing it up. Zero clue how you failed to understand the title BUT....."Turkish Airlines" is obviously the name of the AIRLINE not the country those dead passengers you think never fell out came from. Read headline one word at a time and listen from 15:30-16:30 in the video about the multiple passengers on this Turkish Airlines flights who fell out and were found multiple miles away from the crash....

    • @johnnunn8688
      @johnnunn8688 Месяц назад +3

      Watch the whole video, it’s about more than one aircraft. It is a bad title.

  • @kingklix5782
    @kingklix5782 Месяц назад +1

    I have always found it strange that no one has ever been found to be accountable.

  • @anjummirza1452
    @anjummirza1452 Месяц назад +11

    Excellent investigation and narration...

  • @ronaldtharappel5633
    @ronaldtharappel5633 Месяц назад +2

    Inadequate maintenance is NOT an engineering error.

  • @beckylynn209
    @beckylynn209 Месяц назад +1

    I remember when flying in a DC10, was risky.. 😕

  • @elizabethmartin8902
    @elizabethmartin8902 Месяц назад +6

    Watching airplane !crashes it appears that more lives are lost than in car crashes!!!

  • @wiredblitzen
    @wiredblitzen Месяц назад +4

    Don't you check the door even if it closes?🤔🤔

  • @williamglaser6577
    @williamglaser6577 Месяц назад +3

    Flt 800 was shot down by the US Navy by accident.

  • @YouMolMusic
    @YouMolMusic Месяц назад

    Happy New year
    WeMol

  • @DrPlatypus1
    @DrPlatypus1 Месяц назад +4

    TWA800 was shot down.

  • @Dovietail
    @Dovietail Месяц назад +2

    TWA 800: NOT the FBI's most shining moment. 🙄😠

  • @verastanding
    @verastanding Месяц назад

    I flew with my family in a DC10 from NZ to Singapore in 1971. I guess we were all lucky to make it out alive.

  • @josephmace2268
    @josephmace2268 Месяц назад +4

    What about the door and the wheel that fell off

    • @CatsArePeopleToo
      @CatsArePeopleToo Месяц назад

      After reading so many other comments about technical flaws and failures overlooked by engineers and safety checks, I couldn't help but laugh at yours.😂

  • @kyleo3614
    @kyleo3614 Месяц назад +4

    the title seems to be wrong lol

    • @cchris874
      @cchris874 Месяц назад +1

      I think it's correct. People did fall out of both Turkish DC-10 and TWA flight 800 en route.

  • @libbyjett3471
    @libbyjett3471 Месяц назад +1

    In description of video ; it’s says cargo door about flight 800. But wasn’t it due to explosion from electrical wire catching fire

  • @emank03
    @emank03 День назад

    boutta send this to my boi, who’s going on a plane for the first time today 🤗

  • @madsen0000
    @madsen0000 Месяц назад +1

    So egregious to come out and say to the families it is "obviously a bomb"

  • @AmericaVoice
    @AmericaVoice Месяц назад +2

    What the hell was the guy at in the press conference at the beginning of this video? Damn!

  • @johnkean6852
    @johnkean6852 Месяц назад +1

    Tuned in for the thumbnail about the Turkish Airlines flight outta hee

  • @suecollins8199
    @suecollins8199 11 дней назад

    When aeroplanes explode mid air, especially over an ocean, it amazes me that any body parts get found.😢

  • @splainer2489
    @splainer2489 18 дней назад

    Beautifully done documentary

  • @bannedone3ice138
    @bannedone3ice138 15 дней назад

    23:41 recently Boeing airliner had its door fly off mid air. Recently media undercover journalists interviewed engineers working in Boeing, who said they didn’t trust flying with Boeing aircraft. That is huge.

  • @SCARYFALCON2
    @SCARYFALCON2 Месяц назад +4

    If it's not Jonathan Aris, I'm not watching.

    • @Soffity
      @Soffity Месяц назад

      He is my favourite too. .

  • @pietroveneto4996
    @pietroveneto4996 Месяц назад

    I was electrician more than 25 years ago & this message will not be nothing new for you,but from time to time is good to remember the basics. In electromotor winding we use the silicone wire's(we called it's S/F wires) silicone isolation is soft& we put over its glas isolating buzzer to protect the wire of mechanical damage.Both isolation exposed in open fire don't burns,goes in dust but don't burns. In house installation exist the rule: low voltage,signalization,indicating instalation ( telphone,antenna.....) must be away from power instalation minimum 10 centimeters because the electromagnetic field in power wires has influence on signal in signalization wires.

  • @johnnunn8688
    @johnnunn8688 Месяц назад +3

    The DC10 the engine fell of due the mounting cracks. The blame was put on the airline but they didn’t say why. Were the mountings supposed to be checked for cracks but weren’t?

    • @cchris874
      @cchris874 Месяц назад +3

      Airline to blame because they used a sloppy maintenance procedure that cracked the engine pylons. And yes, they failed to check their work. Continental Airlines did the same thing, but they CHECKED their pylons afterwards and found cracks. Unfortunately they didn't share that info with anyone else.

    • @bunzeebear2973
      @bunzeebear2973 Месяц назад

      That would be in the designers or builders official "CHECK-LIST" Most likely the designers. So, there IS a paper trail.

  • @vaughnmojado8637
    @vaughnmojado8637 Месяц назад +7

    Unfortunately because of all of the failures, that is why our science of flight is so much safer today than it ever has been. It’s only going to get better until the next time. Then they learn again.

    • @frank-michaeljaeschke4798
      @frank-michaeljaeschke4798 Месяц назад +4

      Because a lot of regulations are written in blood.

    • @cattymajiv
      @cattymajiv Месяц назад +1

      @@frank-michaeljaeschke4798 If people want to fly, to some extent it's unavoidable. Flying is inherently dangerous, and despite our best efforts some potential problems will always be overlooked.

    • @bunzeebear2973
      @bunzeebear2973 Месяц назад

      So laughs the Canada Goose.

    • @vaughnmojado8637
      @vaughnmojado8637 Месяц назад

      @@frank-michaeljaeschke4798they are.

    • @CrackheadHuntersDopeDealer
      @CrackheadHuntersDopeDealer Месяц назад

      Tell that to Boeing.

  • @airam-sj2172
    @airam-sj2172 5 дней назад

    As passengers there is nothing we can do to anticipate or avoid dying in a plane crash. We are in the hands of the engineers and ultimately the abilities of the pilots.

  • @maxsmith3894
    @maxsmith3894 Месяц назад +1

    Really great information, but working in the aviation industry myself I need to ask the question why Boeing keep putting defective A/C on the market! It seems like the lessons learned have disappeared by magic.

  • @amaryllislady8795
    @amaryllislady8795 Месяц назад +2

    We all heard about the Boing shortcuts from that whistleblower who recently made "suicide"!

  • @djpalindrome
    @djpalindrome Месяц назад +14

    The most devastating indictment of the slipshod engineering of the DC-10 I’ve seen yet.
    The DC-10 not only had an inherently unsafe cargo door, but MD violated every precept of redundancy and fail-safe design. A single point of failure resulted in catastrophic loss. No pressure vents to prevent the floor collapse during explosive decompression. No check valves to prevent hydraulic fluid loss. Positioning fluid lines and control cables such that they can all be severed at one go by shrapnel. A totally unairworthy shitbox that should never have been certified to fly.
    The DC-10 apologists continue to blame the baggage handler or bad maintenance when the truth is staring them in the face.

    • @brigidtheirish
      @brigidtheirish Месяц назад +5

      DC-10 apologists forget that it shouldn't be *possible* for baggage handlers to mess up a plane that bad.

    • @kamakaziozzie3038
      @kamakaziozzie3038 Месяц назад +1

      Unfortunately it often takes tragedy to force redesign of flawed engineering. That was definitely an example. The DC-10 went on to fly several decades of service. In the 1980s and 90s I was a passenger on the DC-10 to and from Hawaii where I lived (2 engine aircraft were not allowed at the time for that overwater route) and in my experience it was a comfortable ride.

    • @cchris874
      @cchris874 Месяц назад +1

      BUT, they only appear to have done this in a limited number of systems. In many areas they over-designed, which is an interesting paradox.

    • @cattymajiv
      @cattymajiv Месяц назад +2

      @@brigidtheirish I feel so awfully sorry for that poor guy! Even without others blaming him, he probably felt incredibly guilty, even though the fault wasn't his!

    • @brigidtheirish
      @brigidtheirish Месяц назад

      @@cattymajiv Agreed! I'd be inconsolable in his position.

  • @dibrentley7915
    @dibrentley7915 Месяц назад +2

    OMG how many adverts are you going to stick in these things RUclips... worse than free to air tv. I should have counted them. crazy.

    • @cattymajiv
      @cattymajiv Месяц назад +1

      That's nitpicking. It's not even close to as bad as free tv. And the shows cost money to make, a lot of it.

    • @dibrentley7915
      @dibrentley7915 Месяц назад

      doesnt mean they can put like 12 freakin adverts in. @@cattymajiv

  • @Sahilprakash1999
    @Sahilprakash1999 Месяц назад +3

    1:37 at New York's JFK International Airport on July 17th, 1996 TWA Flight 800 is preparing for departure from New York to Paris, but the flight has been deploy one of the passengers are checked bags but not yet boarded

    • @fuzzybunny4muny
      @fuzzybunny4muny Месяц назад +1

      ...What?

    • @jasonboisseau409
      @jasonboisseau409 Месяц назад +5

      @@fuzzybunny4munyI know what he’s saying. The flight was delayed because there was an issue with one of the bags in the cargo area. That’s what he talking about although the wording is brutal

    • @cchris874
      @cchris874 Месяц назад +1

      @@jasonboisseau409
      And also not the most germane to the crash, as delays are part of air travel.

    • @davewelch151
      @davewelch151 Месяц назад +1

      @@jasonboisseau409Back off, obviously not his first language. If you can understand the message than there is no problem!

    • @Geronimo2Fly
      @Geronimo2Fly Месяц назад +1

      @@davewelch151 I couldn't understand it at all. I'm sure the only reason Jason understood it is because he already knew the backstory; no one could make sense of that jumble of words.

  • @NomadHokie
    @NomadHokie Месяц назад +1

    @24:10 -- I remember when ORD was the busiest in the world, and I think it retained that title until 1998, when ATL overtook it. My guess is that the rising popularity of MDW is probably what caused the shift.

    • @cattymajiv
      @cattymajiv Месяц назад +3

      That's a record! THREE unexplained acronyms in one short post! Care to try beating your own record?

    • @NomadHokie
      @NomadHokie Месяц назад

      @@cattymajiv Lol fair. ORD = Chicago O'Hare, MDW = Chicago Midway, and ATL = Atlanta Hartsfield Jackson.

  • @FOX007-um1wr
    @FOX007-um1wr 18 дней назад

    This sorta reminds me of what happened on the Boeing when the emergency door came off during flight. Those people were very lucky they didn't up in a tragic situation like this. Just horrible tragic event. I feel so sorry for the families of these passengers and flight crew.

  • @PimDutch
    @PimDutch Месяц назад

    flew in 1979 in a DCA10 and one flight in 1980 to Rhodes Greece... was I lucky? never again after that.

  • @donnapalmeri9573
    @donnapalmeri9573 Месяц назад

    I heard 3 distinctive "BOOMS" that fatal night.I thought someone was shooting off fireworks at the beach.Little did I know it was Flight 800 blowing up. RIP to all Souls on board that night.😢🙏

  • @JulieR73
    @JulieR73 Месяц назад

    That’s the day my niece was born. 7-17-96 The day I became an aunt to the sweetest niece you could ever ask for.

  • @AshleySpeaks4U
    @AshleySpeaks4U 7 дней назад

    My sister REFUSES to fly overseas due to this flight. She was suddenly stricken with an intense fear of flying over the ocean. It was that she was taking French, and a high school French class was on it.

  • @abenirex
    @abenirex Месяц назад +6

    This headline is absolutely confounding and trying to hurt Turkish Airlines, which happens to have an excellent record. You should make the headlines like "Engineering Errors in Aviation History".

    • @ME-dz8wz
      @ME-dz8wz Месяц назад

      You are absolutely right.. This is a malicious publication!

  • @helenwalker716
    @helenwalker716 Месяц назад

    I have question. What if we have a massive EMF attack what will happen to airplanes on auto pilot? Will they be able to go back to manual controls of would they all crash?

  • @bunzeebear2973
    @bunzeebear2973 Месяц назад +1

    I don't know what they are talking about @30:00+.? The fuel tanks ALWAYS HAVE AN EXPLOSIVE mixture in them especially gasoline which becomes a vapor you can smell in the air at below freezing(32F). That fuel liquid gets used up on a long trip so there is always a bomb under the plane. It is no different than the 1972 Ford Pinto(when rear ended the car explodes especially when the tank is half full or less) Which ALWAYS happens. The half a tank of fuel. The other half is explosive vapor. It is the vapor that the engine burns, not liquid fuel. Kerosene or diesel works in the same way. (Vapor dude, vapor) though kerosene or diesel vapor is much less explosive as it needs more heat just to ignite. (I used to throw lit matches into an open vat of fuel from a distance. Yeah matches would go out several times before they lit the fuel fumes...if it was kero or diesel. Gasoline...if I stood downwind from the fuel and could smell it...THAT WAS TOO CLOSE to the fuel...if it was gasoline...as I would also catch on fire as the clothing & hair also held in the fumes. Not stuff to play with. Even at temperatures say 0 F. If you can smell fuel then that is vapor.

  • @murjanimims8060
    @murjanimims8060 Месяц назад +1

    Seems like they should build the planes with whatever they built those voice recorders out of, those boxes survive everything every time the planes crash.

  • @Wolfboy183
    @Wolfboy183 Месяц назад +1

    Anyone seeing the Fitspresso ads here, note the Russian labels on the food packaging in the video. Very sus.

  • @davidrobertson3930
    @davidrobertson3930 Месяц назад +1

    Changes in air safety is offen written in the blood of those who DIED.

  • @hallelujah7304
    @hallelujah7304 Месяц назад +1

    Greed of companies and their people. Period.