Tragedy When US Navy Shot Down Civilian Airliner Iran Air Flight 655 | Mayday | Wonder

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  • Опубликовано: 7 июл 2021
  • On 3 July 1988, during the Iran-Iraq War, the USS Vincennes launches missiles which bring down Iran Air Flight 655, killing all 290 people on board. The crew of the Vincennes claimed that they mistook the airliner for an Iranian Air Force Grumman F-14 Tomcat fighter, but Iran believes that the US deliberately shot it down.
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  • @arrow-lo7jf
    @arrow-lo7jf 2 года назад +3247

    I love how they explain how high tech the systems are on the ship , but yet could not tell the difference from a passenger liner from a F 14, and my God , why would you get medals for this ?

    • @february3199
      @february3199 2 года назад +249

      in the west, you get medals and Nobel Peace Prize for killing innocent civilians.

    • @alisoukot2900
      @alisoukot2900 2 года назад +13

      Nice

    • @tankthearc9875
      @tankthearc9875 2 года назад +285

      America is sick .

    • @Chaosfred
      @Chaosfred 2 года назад +127

      As high tech a ship can be, there is always "possibility". Especially during war stress and when just a year before you've been attacked first by a plane that identified as civilian jet airplane actually modified to carry missiles (USS Stark Incident). That is part of the risk working near or in the warzone.
      Also, it happened back at 1988. Back then Internet & GPS hardly existed yet, even on commercial level. If there is a thing I agreed with the internet, it would be the "medal" stuffs which shouldn't be given.

    • @MarmaladeSally
      @MarmaladeSally 2 года назад +76

      In the US you get pardoned for war crimes you were convicted of. It’s what we do. We are the worlds leading terrorists.

  • @Ppelocuas559
    @Ppelocuas559 2 года назад +3557

    Just imagine what would USA have done if it was the other way

    • @terrorhuhn9192
      @terrorhuhn9192 2 года назад +205

      Nuclear weapons are a great insurance if it comes down to get involved in a war.. if u got one, us won't treat you like that

    • @NotJustYouNoob
      @NotJustYouNoob 2 года назад +26

      PS 752 seems to point at a lot of nothing.

    • @unclejacksimulations9423
      @unclejacksimulations9423 2 года назад +80

      @@terrorhuhn9192 Alright, you use your nuclear weapons, then what? Using them again is a death sentence to us all.

    • @terrorhuhn9192
      @terrorhuhn9192 2 года назад +85

      @@unclejacksimulations9423 that's the point why they are an great insurance. Everybody knows that so they are not going to risk it that easily.
      It's not about using them it's about to not getting attacked because of having it

    • @mozvidz
      @mozvidz 2 года назад +49

      Well, you don't have to wonder. See what they did to Gadaffi in Libya due to their plane; they would have done the same in Iran.

  • @tomnguyen1015
    @tomnguyen1015 6 месяцев назад +207

    The dude that said "the plane is descending" when it was actually ascending, need to be jailed for incompatance alone

    • @putnamcountycrimeanalysiswandr
      @putnamcountycrimeanalysiswandr 3 месяца назад +5

      So you wouldn't back up your own guys if they made a possible error in a split second decision where they can't go back and correct it? You'd make a great boss. SMH.

    • @sepehrnourazar9705
      @sepehrnourazar9705 3 месяца назад

      Back him up? Are you out of your mind ? They killed more than 200 hundred incocent civillian in a cold blood murder ,if this wouldve happened to an ameircan airliner u would be screaming out loud knowing if someone f up the the positioning of the aircraft that lead to missle being fried at it, you dont know what u are talking about brother ​@putnamcountycrimeanalysiswandr

    • @sepehrnourazar9705
      @sepehrnourazar9705 3 месяца назад +27

      ​@@putnamcountycrimeanalysiswandralso these people are not McDonald's workers that can make mistakes and he forgiven, depends the type of the mistakes that these people make behind these death machines actual innocent people will die so they have gone through hundreds of hours of training these simple mistakes can't happen not acceptable , while they are operating multi million dollars warship with state of the art technology at its time

    • @tomnguyen1015
      @tomnguyen1015 3 месяца назад +20

      @@putnamcountycrimeanalysiswandr split seconds? You even watch the whole video?
      And if your guy couldn't tell the difference between ascending and descending then you are failure as a boss!
      Also giving out medals🏅 after hundreds of innocent people have been killed by their mistake? I thought this only happen in Hollywood 🤣

    • @julioescobar4946
      @julioescobar4946 3 месяца назад +11

      @@putnamcountycrimeanalysiswandrdid you even watch the full documentary, all who was responsible should have been place in jail instead of rewarding them medals.

  • @NejiHunterPlayzXD
    @NejiHunterPlayzXD 8 месяцев назад +171

    Imagine Getting Medals for shooting down a Civilian Plane full of Innocent Civilians

    • @selvesterliboma9203
      @selvesterliboma9203 Месяц назад +2

      😅

    • @Pintocaleb256
      @Pintocaleb256 Месяц назад +3

      Iranians are not real civilians 😅

    • @GoattKuu
      @GoattKuu Месяц назад +7

      @@Pintocaleb256what do you mean

    • @charlieb308
      @charlieb308 Месяц назад +5

      Why would an airliner not have communication capability, they tried to contact the plane. Iran should have told airports how they were messing around trying to sink innocent ships that were unarmed. Mess around and find out what happens

    • @joseaguilera664
      @joseaguilera664 Месяц назад +3

      Like i said people don't know what really happened.. Fk around and get dealt with

  • @julianxe
    @julianxe 2 года назад +3012

    As an American - the US was in the wrong here. Saying the plane was descending when it was ascending, and not identifying the plane on comms either. The medals at the end was just horrendous. I feel sorry for the innocent people who died.

    • @ruthaakamonica5602
      @ruthaakamonica5602 2 года назад +58

      We the people will pay for everything that ever happened , from here on out ..........
      Good Night America

    • @pnksmigge5324
      @pnksmigge5324 2 года назад +97

      Don't worry Julian, the entire world knows you were and are in the wrong so regularly, it's just you realizing :)

    • @kansasjayhawk8386
      @kansasjayhawk8386 2 года назад +54

      Yes, it was an unspeakable tragedy no doubt, but the Navy made numerous efforts to contact the airliner. All they had to do was respond.

    • @BRMCX69
      @BRMCX69 2 года назад +156

      @@kansasjayhawk8386 refused to apologize by saying it was necessary action took by the navy and awarded the medals after the tour. plus billion dollars techs, but still cant figured it out the plane actually ascending not descending, and you blamed them for not responding radio transmission. put the situation in reverse, how would you think US will respond? after all they love wars so much.

    • @kansasjayhawk8386
      @kansasjayhawk8386 2 года назад +9

      So it was the US Navy's fault that flt 655 didn't and or wouldn't respond? Are you lame minded or just ignorant?

  • @jeffyng8658
    @jeffyng8658 2 года назад +1979

    imagine being the family of one of those 290 who died and hearing abt how the people who killed your loved ones being awarded medals and praise. absolutely disgusting.

    • @informitas0117
      @informitas0117 2 года назад +153

      Killing Iranian civilians over Iranian waters no less. Maybe the Americans are so worried about terrorism because they are projecting.

    • @dperin00011
      @dperin00011 2 года назад +32

      @@informitas0117 How about Iran shooting down a plane that had taken off from their own airport in Tehran? Yikes.

    • @aminabbaszadeh1066
      @aminabbaszadeh1066 2 года назад +254

      @@dperin00011 At least Iran didn't offer a medal to the missile operator and actually he is in jail!

    • @ashes2ashes863
      @ashes2ashes863 2 года назад +11

      @@aminabbaszadeh1066 you sure about that...did you check and see. Don't believe everything everybody tells you.

    • @riku3716
      @riku3716 2 года назад +46

      If US military and all its personnel were properly held responsible for all their actions they would be number ones in the world in execution numbers.

  • @zacharyelison4107
    @zacharyelison4107 5 месяцев назад +24

    “we investigated ourselves and found no wrongdoing”

  • @paulgram3967
    @paulgram3967 9 месяцев назад +166

    When it's the others, it's a crime, When it's you, it's a mistake.

    • @bovinityleak2066
      @bovinityleak2066 5 месяцев назад +7

      You are spot on

    • @tjtruth4793
      @tjtruth4793 3 месяца назад

      When it’s the others, they’re terrorists. when it’s you, it’s national defense. The American govt is a textbook terrorist organization. Which does not represent the wishes of Americans. From a USMC vet.

    • @ragedmayhem1
      @ragedmayhem1 2 месяца назад

      Not really. USA doesn't purposely attack airlines or ships 😂 maybe blame Iran.​@@bovinityleak2066

    • @ragedmayhem1
      @ragedmayhem1 2 месяца назад

      ​@@bovinityleak2066not really. USA doesn't Target ships or airliners is Iran's fault for not diverting that plane away from the engagement area plus Iran started the engagement 😂. You terrorist and your thinking. Always the victim huh

    • @ItalianCountryball11
      @ItalianCountryball11 Месяц назад

      @@bovinityleak2066fr

  • @millwrightdad3753
    @millwrightdad3753 2 года назад +2993

    Serving in the US NAVY myself for 13 years and being aboard a nuclear class submarine, without a doubt this captain was looking for someone to fire upon. We've had so many discussions about it and I've never met any sailor who agrees with the captains actions. He intentionally went within 3 miles of shore, he was told multiple times it was a civi airliner. Of course the navy found him innocent, in there eyes 120+ future enemies were killed

    • @_.Glennicus._
      @_.Glennicus._ 2 года назад +87

      There's many factors
      But over all, I agree
      That captain was warned
      But in reality he had a life or death situation
      .
      No one will really truly know what went on in the heads of both crews
      Especially the iranian aircrafts crew, we will never know
      .
      Criticize me if you so choose
      And
      If your still in the navy, good luck and fair seas

    • @Reaperdeathpunch
      @Reaperdeathpunch 2 года назад +137

      I would disagree that the captain was looking for someone to fire upon as A.) He was already in a naval battle.
      B.) He had 10 warnings sent out,
      and C.) He waited until THE VERY LAST MINUTE to shoot. No one looking for someone to shoot waits until the last minute, if he was he'd had fired off the missiles as soon as he possibly could.

    • @marioyanez238
      @marioyanez238 2 года назад +60

      I hope these stupid sailors got punished! What a disgrace to humanity and to the US military they were.

    • @jamesc5751
      @jamesc5751 2 года назад +183

      @@Reaperdeathpunch he was the one who put an AEGIS cruiser in a battle with gunboats right off the coast. He was looking for something to shoot.
      He had other ships in his tactical control more than appropriate for the situation, something which has been pointed out by multiple commanders.

    • @jamesc5751
      @jamesc5751 2 года назад +192

      @@Reaperdeathpunch "I could have shot earlier but I didn't" is the same excuse criminals use when they walk around with a firearm looking for people to shoot "in self defence"

  • @Rich-gj8gs
    @Rich-gj8gs 2 года назад +2163

    Giving them medals is just a big slap in the face to all the victims families.

    • @ballbender9thousand944
      @ballbender9thousand944 2 года назад +45

      Vietnam war in a Nutshell , North Vietnam General decline a Nobel Peace because He dont Wanna Take a Medal that His enemy once bomb His Land have(America)

    • @johnchow8372
      @johnchow8372 2 года назад +118

      Giving them medals shows the true intent to shoot down that Iranian airliner!

    • @liukang3545
      @liukang3545 2 года назад +6

      @@johnchow8372 ye

    • @adityajohnson7572
      @adityajohnson7572 2 года назад +3

      Thanks for letting them know

    • @abuseofmainstreammediacanh5713
      @abuseofmainstreammediacanh5713 2 года назад +47

      @@johnchow8372 I share your analysis. The treatment of the officers in charge says everything you need to know about the rule of law in the USA.

  • @wowowills
    @wowowills Год назад +57

    the nerve of the US to say it was just a self-defense when they are way outside their territories

    • @saravanand1168
      @saravanand1168 Месяц назад +7

      and attacking a passenger plane that was in international territory. No wonder the Middle East love (sic) the US

    • @mohx2847
      @mohx2847 День назад

      They learn from Israel

  • @jrockMW311
    @jrockMW311 Год назад +361

    I had no idea this happened. I live in Texas... it's messed up and my heart goes out to those lost and their families.

    • @ritemolawbks8012
      @ritemolawbks8012 Год назад +19

      I'm from Texas, too. I didn't know about this until I became an adult and researched more about the Cold War, US-Persian relations, and why they chant, "Death to America."
      Originally, it was puzzlingly how Iranians were so opposed to US foreign policy in the Middle East, but also opposed to terrorism, ISIS, al Qaeda, and Wahhabism extremist, but not American citizens.
      I believe this attack was unintentional, and I'm glad the US government finally compensated the families of the victims. I only wish that since the "War on Terror" has essentially ended, the US media and educational system would explain the details of US involvement in the Middle East, Persia, and the creation of the Afghan Mujahedeen.
      I'm definitely not supportive of the Iranian regime, but I believe you can definitely be a US patriotic, while holding American politicians accountable for international actions done on behalf of the American people.

    • @omarmahfouz5599
      @omarmahfouz5599 11 месяцев назад +2

      You have no idea because you are in Texas

    • @ritemolawbks8012
      @ritemolawbks8012 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@omarmahfouz5599 It's not Texas. It wasn't widely covered in media or even books. In history lessons, it's included in topics related to Iran-Iraq War.
      The CIA operations in the Middle East, and the shootdown of Iran Air 655 are more widely known now because of RUclips.
      There may have been a documentary about it on the History Channel, but it's not as well known as the Soviet shootdown of Korean Air 007.

    • @omarmahfouz5599
      @omarmahfouz5599 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@ritemolawbks8012 I did not mean Texas specifically per se, I was referring to living in the US in general. The US media is a very powerful and intricate propaganda machine, and countless atrocities commited by the US / or US backed regimes receive 0 mainstream media coverage.

    • @darthvader8744
      @darthvader8744 10 месяцев назад +6

      @@omarmahfouz5599 Yes. The US is no different to Russia or China

  • @ottovonbismarck2083
    @ottovonbismarck2083 2 года назад +2767

    I understand the captain’s decision, but I feel like giving the medals is just disrespectful to the victim’s families.

    • @mariodumont9417
      @mariodumont9417 2 года назад +63

      the real reason is not that. the USA wanted to test iran , will they retaliate while they are at war against sadam hussein and his Westerns Allies ( donald romsfeld).

    • @nasrulfirdaus140
      @nasrulfirdaus140 2 года назад +202

      Medal for what ? That is so disrespectful.

    • @riventv4927
      @riventv4927 2 года назад +57

      @@nasrulfirdaus140 medal for stopping possible terrorism
      (Atleast according to USA military)

    • @amandam1137
      @amandam1137 2 года назад +99

      @@nasrulfirdaus140 for performing a satanic sacrifice

    • @prabuddhabose9045
      @prabuddhabose9045 2 года назад +56

      Is 9 miles is a very large distance to find out if an aircraft is military or civilian/commercial using binoculars from the USN ship?

  • @brianschwab4390
    @brianschwab4390 2 года назад +1857

    R.I.P all passenger's and crew of Iran air flight 655 and my deep condolences to the families and loved ones of the passenger's and crew.

    • @nickmotsarsky4382
      @nickmotsarsky4382 2 года назад +18

      The plural of passenger is passengers. Chill with the apostrophes.

    • @florjanbrudar692
      @florjanbrudar692 2 года назад +15

      @@nickmotsarsky4382 I seriously don't understand why people do this, why they add apostophes to words ending with an s

    • @deppalc2471
      @deppalc2471 2 года назад +76

      @@nickmotsarsky4382 u know what he meant. Stop crying now.

    • @encephabol7955
      @encephabol7955 2 года назад +38

      @@florjanbrudar692 because English is not their native language.

    • @nahhoneyimgood5221
      @nahhoneyimgood5221 2 года назад +34

      @@nickmotsarsky4382 ur focusing on the wrong things.

  • @fredklein3829
    @fredklein3829 Год назад +77

    I never understood what happened at that time despite watching the news and reading the newspaper. Glad I watched this documentary 35 years later. Thank you Wonder.

  • @hekoloaka
    @hekoloaka 11 месяцев назад +23

    Unbelievable, unacceptable. And the fact the program makes them look like innocent heroes...

  • @Hannahleigh_
    @Hannahleigh_ Год назад +104

    Getting awarded a medal is such a harsh slap in the face to the families of the victims.

  • @ssnadera6498
    @ssnadera6498 2 года назад +2177

    Clearly the clown who said the plane was descending when it was ascending should have been charged

    • @abhinavsrivastava8615
      @abhinavsrivastava8615 2 года назад +177

      No one was charged as it was an intentional operation, read more about how CIA works to destabilise other countries for their own gain and to capture natural resources of other countries. You won't believe after reading about their working style and the kind of military and non-military operations they have done to cause murders of innocent people for personal gains.

    • @robertsteinbach7325
      @robertsteinbach7325 2 года назад +88

      Yes, he should have been punished, but the system was poorly designed to show ascending and declining altitudes of aircraft. If you are going to build a computer interface where the utmost importance is the altitude and delta (change of) altitude in aircraft, the Navy built their interface to obfuscate both in the 80s, making such errors all but easy to make.
      in fact, the flawed system they used to identify aircraft and the flaws in their computer interfaces, it is a wonder that the US Navy didn't shoot down other civilian aircraft on a yearly basis.

    • @martinc.720
      @martinc.720 2 года назад +29

      @@abhinavsrivastava8615 This has absolutely nothing to do with someone saying an aircraft is descending while it is clearly not.

    • @martinc.720
      @martinc.720 2 года назад +64

      @Jorge Tara Well if the guy could not perform under the kind of pressure military personnel has to deal with, then he should not have been in uniform.

    • @brianhooper8563
      @brianhooper8563 2 года назад +18

      @@martinc.720 it kinda does, considering the atrocity's they actively plan and and execute daily why would anyone think for a second that they would charge someone for making a mistake out of fear?? they are obviously just fine with killing whoever whenever without a care in the world!!!

  • @lifestylewithsanduni
    @lifestylewithsanduni 11 месяцев назад +120

    Giving a medal for the captain is unacceptable 😢

    • @metalstorm45
      @metalstorm45 10 месяцев назад +19

      Agreed. Real pathetic. And the crew on that ship have nothing to be proud of.

    • @TamirChezi
      @TamirChezi 7 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@metalstorm45yes they do

    • @metalstorm45
      @metalstorm45 7 месяцев назад +3

      @@TamirChezi of what?

    • @hussainali1340
      @hussainali1340 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@metalstorm45 of being terrorists.

    • @hussainali1340
      @hussainali1340 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@TamirChezi have a brain check, clown.

  • @georgekumakanga717
    @georgekumakanga717 Год назад +61

    Very heartbreaking, RIP to those people we lost that day

  • @kennydyer3034
    @kennydyer3034 2 года назад +472

    This was tough to watch. Especially the reports of the aircraft descending when it was still climbing. Hero’s welcome is pure bs…RIP to those on that flight.

    • @srdjan6004
      @srdjan6004 2 года назад +16

      Yeah... The peak of hypocrisy.

    • @kennydyer3034
      @kennydyer3034 2 года назад +5

      @Rosscoeginncoe Lake Havasu & Orange County and here goes Rosscoe etc trying to tell me what I know about….FOH!!

    • @kennydyer3034
      @kennydyer3034 2 года назад +2

      @Rosscoeginncoe Lake Havasu & Orange County you know nothing about me!!!! And you’re WRONG!!!! Yet you speak so matter of fact that it shows your ignorance.

    • @scorpion1349
      @scorpion1349 2 года назад +24

      @Rosscoeginncoe Lake Havasu & Orange County I believe you ignore the fact that they were looking for trouble. They disobeyed the order to send only the helicopter. But they turned toward north and entered Iranian territory. They put themselves in a situation for that critical decision.
      As an airline pilot flying over persian golf everyday and receiving many warning by different air defense radars including US navy ships, I ask this question...what the hell are you doing here??? Your country is more than 14000kms away and you ask me to change my course in air corridor or identify myself because you like to stay there??? You entered the territory of another country and under a major air corridor and think everyone should obey your orders??? What if it was an US airliner shutdown by another country's missile in US territory???
      300 people lost their life and thousands of people lost their family members including babies, children and women and that's your conclusion of the video and situation? I think being a privileged person or nation because of the powerful army and being a superpower gives you the right to justify what ever mistakes you do. I really want to know if your family were in a flight which was shutdown according the same scenario, what would be your opinion. Stop acting as the police of the world mind your own business. World is a safer place without all these superpowers claiming they are protecting freedom and democracy. Just look what US did in Afghanistan or Iraq or Syria. Smae as Russians and all other players. Who pays the price???

    • @kennydyer3034
      @kennydyer3034 2 года назад +1

      @Rosscoeginncoe Lake Havasu & Orange County yes ignorant!!! You lack knowledge and still wanna question me?? Now let’s place a wager so I can make you look foolish

  • @mikelbrenn111
    @mikelbrenn111 2 года назад +465

    That crew, who said that the plane was descending needs to fired, he panicked and made the wrong reading, that ultimately sealed the fate of the innocent people in that plane.

    • @millwrightdad3753
      @millwrightdad3753 2 года назад +10

      Fired? This happened so very long ago lol

    • @0_mfg
      @0_mfg 2 года назад +1

      😢😢💔💔💔💔

    • @GidsVanHaart
      @GidsVanHaart 2 года назад +4

      Give him promotional offer or human right activist to middle east or to China. This the game

    • @philfils-aime3570
      @philfils-aime3570 2 года назад +3

      Should have been jailed for life

    • @mehdimarkham5068
      @mehdimarkham5068 2 года назад +10

      They’re all talking how good and sophisticated battleship they had
      they’re all talking this was a state award starship at sea and so on and on and they couldn’t made a different between passenger jet and F 14 or mig 29 fighter jet just doesn’t make sense

  • @orsini484
    @orsini484 Год назад +466

    This is shameful. My condolences to the families, and may all the passengers RIP. Medals for this? Inexcusable.

    • @faridaaminy9734
      @faridaaminy9734 Год назад +29

      They didn't deserve medals, instead they deserve prison time 😢

    • @itsuserbro
      @itsuserbro Год назад +11

      @@faridaaminy9734 They don't deserve prison time, they failed to respond to multiple warnings and it was perfectly fine for them to assume it was an iran jet. they DIDNT respond to warnings.

    • @gginfuser7157
      @gginfuser7157 11 месяцев назад +40

      @@itsuserbro They were in Iranian Waters. That is a mistake itself. Then shooting down a Iranian Plane with passengers then feeling proud getting medal for it? They absolutely deserves prison time

    • @xrpop7219
      @xrpop7219 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@itsuserbro lol you're not well in the head buddy 😂 America is pathetic

    • @TheRealYashNotFake
      @TheRealYashNotFake 11 месяцев назад +6

      @@itsuserbro wrong. Their instrumentation couldn’t identify the jet and it was the Captains decision. Stop defending him w/o valid reason

  • @esbornemakesh1525
    @esbornemakesh1525 8 месяцев назад +23

    this was pure negligence especially to the guy who said the plane was descending instead of ascending. May the victims RIP

    • @ragedmayhem1
      @ragedmayhem1 2 месяца назад +2

      It was on Iran's part for starting the engagement and not diverting the plane from an engagement area

  • @bosabarbosa1795
    @bosabarbosa1795 2 года назад +754

    The guy that made the call, saying "descending at high speed" is DEFINITELY "RESPONSIBLE" for this tragedy, he made a wrong call, a FALSE CALL that gave all the others the impression an F-14 was fast approaching and they were gonna be under attack!

    • @abuseofmainstreammediacanh5713
      @abuseofmainstreammediacanh5713 2 года назад +37

      Why do you call this obvious war crime a simple tragedy?

    • @bosabarbosa1795
      @bosabarbosa1795 2 года назад +54

      @@abuseofmainstreammediacanh5713 WHERE on my comment does it say "SIMPLE" tragedy!?!? Read it again!!!

    • @stepheng9322
      @stepheng9322 2 года назад +9

      @@bosabarbosa1795 why do you use capital letters so much? You know people won't take you seriously right? Look at you like a crazy person

    • @bosabarbosa1795
      @bosabarbosa1795 2 года назад +47

      @@stepheng9322 Funny you saying that... my comment has quite a few THUMBS UP reply, and in case YOU do not know what that means, I'll tell you... it means people LIKE my comment, and feel positive about it, YOU are an EXCEPTION! Therefore, what YOU think makes no difference to me whatsoever. If YOU think I am a crazy person, reason enough for YOU NOT to waste my time, and if you do insist on wasting my time, even tho you think I am crazy, that makes YOU the crazy one... think about that😏!

    • @juliemunoz2762
      @juliemunoz2762 2 года назад +38

      when you’re looking at a military radar display, tracking an incoming plane it’s not that difficult to make such a mistake especially in the heat of battle while your ship is already being attacked by Iranian gunships. I was A HAWK missile operator from 94 to 00 and I don’t recall in procedures where we would recheck a report of descending altitude
      The Iranians knew they were conducting military operations in the area they should’ve kept all of their civilian traffic clear of the fighting. The Iranians have a very bad track record of such things. in case you forgot or did not hear they The Iranian shot down a civilian airliner that is just taking off from their own airport Last year. Killing some 200 civilians. So apparently the Iranians have not updated their procedures for their military rules of engagement

  • @Matt-dd3cw
    @Matt-dd3cw 2 года назад +2189

    This story is tragically heartbreaking. Initially I was empathizing with the difficult choice the captain faced. However, the commercial airliner was ascending, not descending. And as it turns out the US Navy ship was in Iranian waters and the flight was in an international airway. It’s no wonder the people seem to hate us around the world, these guys ended up getting a medal, while hundreds of innocent people died. I am disgusted, we need to completely change our foreign policy around the world. Utilize our own energy resources here at home, have a strong powerful military here, but no more undeclared wars around the world. It does far more harm than good

    • @Jockuptown
      @Jockuptown 2 года назад +11

      If you want influence in the world you need to first demonstrate power. The US gets involved with so many international issues because if it didn't, countries like China or Russia would dominate and undermine the US influence in the world.
      Just look at China, economically enslaving countries so they can gain control and influence over them
      Russia testing NATO currently while it prepares to take back Ukraine, its all power plays
      As crappy as some decisions by America has been, the reality is other countries will just overstep unless reality checked.

    • @Matt-dd3cw
      @Matt-dd3cw 2 года назад +24

      @@Jockuptown I disagree, I feel our presence all over the world does more harm than good. The UN and NATO are incompetent and corrupt, that needs to be fixed so that they can do their job at a high level. We should not be policing the world, especially when we are currently in a $7 trillion budget deficit

    • @demian9715
      @demian9715 2 года назад +8

      @@Jockuptown you are not demonstrating power. I agree that capitalism is better than communism but the way the US is trying to force this ideology on other countries is a farce. For example if you choose to overthrow a dictator, (Hussein) who you funded the prior 15 years so he could have a war against a contradicting ideology (Iran) , you can't just turn away and leave the country to itself. That's no responsibility at all...

    • @agoujon
      @agoujon 2 года назад +169

      And the worst is the cover-up. I understand human error and tragic mistakes. But I cannot understand not owning up to it. Blaming the Iranians and then rewarding the officers involved made it worse. And they clearly made many mistakes, going into Iranian waters and getting themselves in the path of the airliner. Reading descending when it was clearly ascending, etc, etc.

    • @Jockuptown
      @Jockuptown 2 года назад +2

      @@Matt-dd3cw The US doesn't have to police the world and if it doesnt it will simply lose its super power status and likely push on completely fine for some time.
      However other countries will take advantage of the US doing that, and may potentially wield a stronger empire than the US, so the battle may be brought to your front door step.

  • @Amir19897
    @Amir19897 3 месяца назад +11

    thank you for your support because I'm an Iranian it means a lot to me
    😭😢

    • @memphis6694
      @memphis6694 3 месяца назад +2

      You 100% have my support, this was a horrific “mistake” (I say mistake only because that’s what it’s called here). The rewards given out afterwards, the medals. Well they are not respected and instead of bringing honor to the men who received them, they serve as a visual reminder of the dishonor those men displayed and what a disgrace the US Government can be at times.

    • @Amir19897
      @Amir19897 3 месяца назад +1

      thank you

    • @orionclouds3741
      @orionclouds3741 Месяц назад

      Amir kojae?

    • @orionclouds3741
      @orionclouds3741 Месяц назад

      Qatar hasti?

    • @Pinoysound74
      @Pinoysound74 Месяц назад +1

      My condolences to the people who lost their lives on that tragic day. As an American I felt ashamed and disgusted for shooting down that plane due to the incompetent individual. The captain and his crew deserves jail time not a medal and this is a good example of abusing their power. I’m for humanity and not for nationality.

  • @JackieDannenberg
    @JackieDannenberg 9 месяцев назад +12

    Blaming the airline or the country of origin for putting a passenger airliner into the path of destruction screams that they pushed the blame somewhere else other than where it really was. The fact they got medals is embarrassing. I wish they’d said what changes were made in the aftermath so they would NEVER misidentify an airliner again.

    • @notastone4832
      @notastone4832 26 дней назад

      doubt they changed anything.. the captain definitely wanted a fight and he picked one with civilians

  • @monarizza
    @monarizza 2 года назад +1189

    This is one of those ‘I didn’t punch him, he fell into my clenched fist’ situations

    • @srivathsan8421
      @srivathsan8421 2 года назад +7

      lol

    • @crand20033
      @crand20033 2 года назад +33

      Not really: It's: I punched him because I felt the enemy was approaching me and I was in imminent danger of being attacked but he was actually just coming at me to pass me by.

    • @MostIntelligentMan
      @MostIntelligentMan 2 года назад +59

      @@crand20033 did u even watch? the provoked then chased gunboats 4km into iranian teritorial waters, at that point the usa ship was being illegal invaders, the bored trigger happy cowboy caotain then with his mental crew say that plane was descending when all records from both sides show it was clearly ascending, basically full on terrorism act

    • @crand20033
      @crand20033 2 года назад +13

      @@MostIntelligentMan The Iranian boats came across the line and provoked the American ships first. Then they thought they were safe going back into their own territory. What do you expect the Americans to do? Not retaliate? Not teach them a lesson? The blame must go to the instigator.

    • @PivotCyroy
      @PivotCyroy 2 года назад +18

      @@crand20033 Iirc review of ATC towers and ship files show that the plane never speeded up or dropped altitude and was cruising at cruise speed at cruise altitude. Just trigger happy US garbage soldiers.

  • @MrJr1976
    @MrJr1976 2 года назад +202

    My biggest question here is that did not a single person on board with access to the sky have binoculars? Commercial jets are EASILY visually distinguishable from any military fighter due to their swept wing design. Did nobody even TRY!? Like at that distance, the plane is within visual distance at 10 miles.

    • @louisvillenashvillerailroa5269
      @louisvillenashvillerailroa5269 2 года назад +7

      I’m pretty sure that at the time there may have been some passenger planes converted into military aircraft.

    • @MrJr1976
      @MrJr1976 2 года назад +63

      @@louisvillenashvillerailroa5269 They were concerned about F-14 Tomcats. There isn't a single commercial plane on earth with a similar profile

    • @dantevale0
      @dantevale0 2 года назад +44

      @@louisvillenashvillerailroa5269 Are you joking? How can you convert an Boing into a fighter jet lol

    • @jazzi_0453
      @jazzi_0453 2 года назад +25

      @@dantevale0 it was an airbus but your point stands

    • @seamusomallie
      @seamusomallie 2 года назад

      S

  • @luffypilled
    @luffypilled 6 месяцев назад +5

    Something that always will stick with me is the many comparsions to media coverage of this event and with other shoot-downs of civilian aircraft such as KAL-007.
    Iran Flight 655 - "Why it happened"
    KAL 007 - "MURDER IN THE AIR"

  • @SirCharles-Xavier
    @SirCharles-Xavier 4 месяца назад +9

    No commercial flights should ever be alerted and shot down like this, horrendous and sickening how they acted. Pure evil and God will answer the people behind the incident. My condolence to the family of loat ones on Iran air that day ❤🌷🙏

  • @bilenhindi
    @bilenhindi 2 года назад +532

    there is no justice in this world. how come the guy who reported "descending" while the plane was actually ascending not held responsible?! n a heroes welcome for killing 290 civilians?!

    • @amandam1137
      @amandam1137 2 года назад +1

      isaiah 5:20

    • @arsalaanali6483
      @arsalaanali6483 2 года назад +19

      They didn't give medals for killing 290 civilians they gave it just because they completed their duty from the warzone

    • @abelradebe9644
      @abelradebe9644 2 года назад +74

      @@arsalaanali6483 that's exactly what an evil devil would say after killing innocent people mission complete

    • @AthulRaj96
      @AthulRaj96 2 года назад +25

      @@arsalaanali6483 they went to help people and ended up killing 290 innocent people. Actual war wouldn't have killed these many people

    • @jorobert4757
      @jorobert4757 2 года назад +5

      That goes to show how evil Dem be

  • @hankgoldenshaft
    @hankgoldenshaft 2 года назад +66

    A hero’s welcome and medals? That’s ice cold

  • @User999xxxxxxx
    @User999xxxxxxx 7 месяцев назад +4

    This could of been avoided if that guy didn’t falsely report that the plane was descending. He should have been punished for that mistake.

  • @whistlingninja11
    @whistlingninja11 4 месяца назад +11

    To quote an often-used line from a similar series, Seconds from Disaster:
    "Disasters don't just happen. They're part of a chain of critical events."
    Given the VERY LIMITED information that can fit into a 50-minute documentary, I can understand how this happened AND am sad that it did.
    This reminds me a lot of the episode about Avianca 052. Both cases had serious defects in communication that contributed to tragedy. But unlike in the Avianca case, most of the communication issues in this situation seem to have happened on the ground (well, water):
    -- the badly designed interface that led the officer to hook the wrong plane
    -- the unclear timetable of commercial flights
    -- the limited ability of the Vincennes to communicate with civilian aircraft, which strikes me as odd because it seems like the ship could reasonably expect to need to communicate with civilian pilots at some point
    -- the disproportionately small number of attempts to use the one civilian frequency that the Vincennes *could* access
    -- the misleading speeds cited in the warning messages
    -- the omission of any requirement for the communications officers to use the unique code in communications
    -- the total reliance on people's reports without double-checking on the available displays
    -- and most of all, the report that the plane was descending instead of ascending

    • @luiskp7173
      @luiskp7173 3 месяца назад

      I don’t buy the “unclear timetable of commercial flights”. I’m just a plain civilian with some curiosity about aviation and even I know clearly departure times are given in local time of the airport where the plane is departing. No matter where in the world you are, the system will show local time AT THE AIRPORT, not where you are located.

    • @moemonte88
      @moemonte88 19 дней назад +1

      I agree.. I don’t care what anyone says at the end of the day. This was an accident… America gained nothing from doing this on purpose and let’s be real after seeing Israel now the US does have morals. If there was any ill intent, they would’ve destroyed all those gunboats happily, but like you said, it was literally a chain of events like everything in life. Tragic there are 1 million things that happen to bring you to that moment. Gods will.

  • @Miguel195211
    @Miguel195211 2 года назад +868

    All that technology and the US Navy has no way to contact directly a civilian commercial airliner! Wow!

    • @mannyfresh2deff
      @mannyfresh2deff 2 года назад +19

      U know what im sayin.problem is n that worrys me is that its so high tech that they knew..

    • @z2xtra783
      @z2xtra783 2 года назад +19

      U need to think harder :)

    • @zomoptic
      @zomoptic 2 года назад +74

      Did you even watch the first 2 mins of this? Or did you just see the title and decide to comment..

    • @zomoptic
      @zomoptic 2 года назад +63

      They had 7 mins and made numerous efforts to make contact before being forced to make a fatal decision.

    • @orbe5533
      @orbe5533 2 года назад +12

      @@z2xtra783 ikr how is the navy supposed to know the frequency

  • @cht5086
    @cht5086 2 года назад +708

    I was a teen in Iran and I still remember a part of an innocent small girl and her doll were floating on the water shown on the news that day; it was so heartbreaking and I still remember that scene! 😞

    • @emberechos
      @emberechos 2 года назад +118

      As an American, I am so... *SO* sorry for what these people did to your brethren on that day. Their actions, and the actions of our Government to reward them for it.... absolutely shameful.
      I am sincerely apologetic for much of what my Country has done to other Countries. May you forever find joy and peace in your life my dear sibling.
      Love to you and to the Iranian people ❤️

    • @cht5086
      @cht5086 2 года назад +3

      @@emberechos
      The majority of Iranian love Americans, we don't blame Americans, this is between governments, unfortunately, most Iranian blame Jimmy Carter and his European fellows for supporting Khomeini and for putting his back to our King “Shah of Iran” and Iranians, after 79 our country became in regime captivity until now, the government of United state of America started to introduce us as anti-America and terrorist to the world, This disaster was brought to the people of Iran by Jimmy Carter and his allies, they provoked and encouraged Saddam to start a war with Iran by supporting him, arm him with all weapons and bombs, chemical rockets, ..., 8 years war, sanction on Iran, plus pressure by the regime on its people inside...
      But we know this is not from the good nation of America; that is from politicians and people who control the world, oil and guns!
      Many thanks, dear for your compassion and kind words. you are a beautiful human being, God bless you. Peace and love
      ❤️🌹🙏🌺🇺🇸🇮🇷✌️

    • @pradiptosensarma1672
      @pradiptosensarma1672 Год назад +8

      @@emberechos ❤🙏

    • @Wolfspirit50
      @Wolfspirit50 Год назад +11

      That will never go away. I am sorry that you saw something like that at a young age.

    • @butterbeanqueen8148
      @butterbeanqueen8148 Год назад +15

      I am so sorry you had to go through that. My heart breaks for all murdered, yes murdered, souls on that plane. Their families and friends too.
      This should have never happened. Much less getting awards for doing so. They should be in prison for the rest of their lives.
      I cannot explain nor can I defend so many things my Country does.
      My deepest apologies,
      A heartbroken US citizen

  • @MrTmm97
    @MrTmm97 10 месяцев назад +14

    I hope that enough changes were made from this loss that something like this can’t happen again. There needs to be some kind of way to ensure this kind of thing doesn’t happen.

    • @Mr-Damage
      @Mr-Damage 3 месяца назад +1

      Stop flying over/ through contested area's.

  • @fidan2fast
    @fidan2fast 8 месяцев назад +6

    How this was not deemed a war crime due to negligence is just gutting... To think these countries have nuclear weapons and can't read their own tech is just terrifying

    • @huausiji8w
      @huausiji8w 8 месяцев назад +3

      It's not a warcrimes as long as it's American

    • @fidan2fast
      @fidan2fast 8 месяцев назад

      @@huausiji8w it's not even the first and only time the US killed civilians by accident, even the ones on their side

    • @Greg_Twistedwizardpro
      @Greg_Twistedwizardpro 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@fidan2fasthiroshima and nagasaki included

  • @55tristin55
    @55tristin55 2 года назад +218

    25 minutes of “they did everything they could” followed by 25 minutes of “but they did all that wrong”. This was a well put together documentary.

    • @nur2068
      @nur2068 Год назад +13

      Must have to protect the good guy, protector, liberator image.

    • @xenonvortex3068
      @xenonvortex3068 Год назад +3

      yeah they didn't just take the US official report as gospel and did look at other perspectives that

  • @angprobinsyanongtambay5142
    @angprobinsyanongtambay5142 2 года назад +586

    Wow, can’t imagine about that soldier who had told his ups that the plane is descending where in reality its just maintaining its speed to ascend. No story about him? No penalty? No jail time? How ironic and un humane.

    • @ohh2752
      @ohh2752 2 года назад +23

      Bruh they were in a warzone and they weren't responding. I dont care if its asecnding or descending. LIke they said that other ship was shot by missiles. That plane deserved to be shot down.

    • @angprobinsyanongtambay5142
      @angprobinsyanongtambay5142 2 года назад +112

      @@ohh2752 u didn’t finished the documentation, the report said, the commercial plane didn’t and will never hear the distress call of the navy ship because the navy ship though they are equipped with sophisticated machines, the radio signals that they are using at that moment cannot reach the commercial plane because they are using a military frequency, only combat military planes and non commercial plane can hear on the spot they’re warning voice. The com air didnt have that radio because they are designed as a commercial plane, even Airbus don’t have that radio, the us navy investigating team also said and admitted it. The us navy broadcasted 3 warnings but it doesn’t indicate to whom that warning is because the us navy said that they are broadcasting a ground speed not an air speed and the speed is much faster than what the com air is flying… so the captain of com air will ignore that of course because they’re indicating the warning for something that is in the ground not in the air. That is the report of the officials of the u.s navy itself.

    • @angprobinsyanongtambay5142
      @angprobinsyanongtambay5142 2 года назад +37

      @@ohh2752 in short, it is on the hands of the u.s navy ship to investigate first before firing. Unfortunately, on that moment, they lack some of it.

    • @dew9103
      @dew9103 2 года назад +17

      @@angprobinsyanongtambay5142 they transmitted 3 warnings on the civil air distress frequency, but did not transmit the squawk code

    • @angprobinsyanongtambay5142
      @angprobinsyanongtambay5142 2 года назад +6

      @@dew9103 @37:31will answer what u had said about that 3warnings… the com air transmits squawk code all trough out its flight but the us navy didn't require they’re radio operators to used that code when talking to civilian airline…

  • @rajatram01
    @rajatram01 Год назад +6

    Seriously medals for killing innocent ppl with missiles.Hypocricy at its best

  • @Masoud520
    @Masoud520 3 месяца назад +3

    Iranians never forget, the main reason for Iran's military progress is to prevent such incidents from happening again. We experienced being weak and yelling and ignoring cruelty. From Iran 🇮🇷

    • @kahanuermeyas-tulu4056
      @kahanuermeyas-tulu4056 3 месяца назад

      It’s extremely amusing that no one in the comments is bringing up Ukraine International Airlines Flight 752 (which Iran shot down) as if Iran hasn’t done this as well. Typical “U.S. is the worst country, U.S. is evil, U.S. haters, and only the U.S. would do this” people.

  • @Fujiwara.Takumi1
    @Fujiwara.Takumi1 2 года назад +202

    Inexcusable. The fact that a F-14 fighter flies over 1400km/h(880mph) while the Airbus A300 was flying at 655km/h(330mph), should be quite the obvious indicator. 33 years later and no justice and mostly forgotten

    • @antiglobaljoel532
      @antiglobaljoel532 2 года назад +5

      @Reid James Lots of sea lawyers here.

    • @2000ViperGTSsubscribe
      @2000ViperGTSsubscribe 2 года назад +1

      @@antiglobaljoel532 Yes, I think Takumi needs to stick with his video games.

    • @Fujiwara.Takumi1
      @Fujiwara.Takumi1 2 года назад +9

      @Reid James not true yet you came out with amazingly fake facts. The A300 max flight speed was 330 mph, so where did you get over 500 mph from baffles me.

    • @MrWolfSnack
      @MrWolfSnack 2 года назад +1

      The 1998 Cavalese cable car crash has also been forgotten by most.

  • @oldmandancing
    @oldmandancing 2 года назад +196

    Even IF Captain Rogers was justified in firing on Flight 655, I think it was very inappropriate for the US Navy to award the medals that they did.

    • @oluwaseunolakojo7449
      @oluwaseunolakojo7449 2 года назад +12

      You're right..Showed disregard for the lives lost

    • @Goearthtour
      @Goearthtour 2 года назад +3

      I agree. I believe the captain was very justified in all the actions taken. But none of it seems worthy of medals.

    • @Anelisambana
      @Anelisambana 2 года назад +5

      Absolutely! It’s so distasteful and zero disregard to the innocent lives lost and their families.

    • @dglass8930
      @dglass8930 2 года назад +12

      But this clown was not justified. He is a disgrace to the Navy and to the US.

    • @danishusman7
      @danishusman7 Год назад

      A cruiser under threat from gunboats. What a joke. He wanted action

  • @PEPPERJET7
    @PEPPERJET7 7 месяцев назад +3

    Tragic , but the ongoing threats at the time in that region were difficult.

  • @StephenLuke
    @StephenLuke 9 месяцев назад +5

    RIP
    To the passengers and crew of Iran Air Flight 655

  • @twilightpurpleglow
    @twilightpurpleglow 2 года назад +198

    Speechless. I was left numb... so sad. RIP all flight crew and passengers on Iran Air 655.

    • @florjanbrudar692
      @florjanbrudar692 2 года назад +6

      Honestly if I accidentally shot down an innocent plane, airliner or not, I would take off my hat

  • @srivathsan8421
    @srivathsan8421 2 года назад +430

    Wtf? The Vincennes has no business 4 miles into Iranian territorial waters. They go into Iranian territory and shoot down an Iranian civilian aircraft, and later say that *flight 655* had crossed *their* path? The *Vincennes* had crossed *Iranian* territory.

    • @mich8411
      @mich8411 2 года назад +29

      Yes but why did they cross ?
      Because they were shot at...

    • @srivathsan8421
      @srivathsan8421 2 года назад +56

      @@mich8411 And why were they shot at? The helicopter went too close to the boats. Its mission was to find what those people were up to. Not to go too close to them, spook and provoke them to attack.

    • @mich8411
      @mich8411 2 года назад +22

      @@srivathsan8421 No the helicopter went there because...those boats were harassing another ships, so they also harassed the helicopter just that they harassed the wrong helicopter, the helicopter didn't go close it was targeted as they were already targeting other boats

    • @srivathsan8421
      @srivathsan8421 2 года назад +4

      @@mich8411 🤔🤔🤔🤔hmmm...

    • @hamedknowsbest2663
      @hamedknowsbest2663 2 года назад +48

      @@mich8411 The warship was completely capable of recognizing commercial airplane from missile or fighter planes, this video is a poor effort in washing the blood stained hands of off those responsible for this tragedy by using drama and cinematography instead of real world facts... By omitting some and adding some... Not telling the whole truth is just a lie, but to add insult to injury of the victims and their survivors show the real spirit of the evil... American interventionism and imperialism is to blame and not just the navy captain or crew... Nor the speedboats roaming their territorial water or the Iran air captain who was not in military conflict zone, on usual route to Dubai... to put it simply for any liberated soul who seeks the truth and wants further study; American politics were salty that they lost a resourceful country like Iran to a revolution by people and not even Saddam Hussain supported by BOTH Eastern and Western powers cant take it down. It was aimed to take down Iranian determination by psychological warfare... To ease the Iranian to surrender... Just like Japanese nuclear blasts...

  • @jasonmatapula5901
    @jasonmatapula5901 3 месяца назад +4

    They said he was looking for action, but he wasn't supposed to be in the flight path of that passager plane.
    So him and his right hand man get off th hook, and retire as for the victim's families have to remember their loved ones that died in the Persian gulf.
    Everyday

  • @MHWorldwide
    @MHWorldwide 4 месяца назад +33

    Medal for such a cowardly act? Shame on you!
    We live in such a beautiful planet but a ugly world!
    My heart goes out to all the innocent victims😢 RIP.

    • @otisdriftwood8469
      @otisdriftwood8469 3 месяца назад

      Cowardly? You obviously never served. And have absolutely no idea what it's like. If anyone is a coward it's you.

  • @victoriayaakuupol7942
    @victoriayaakuupol7942 2 года назад +217

    The fact that these men were given medals after what they did is baffling. Horrible!!

    • @peterjonston5905
      @peterjonston5905 Год назад +5

      LMAO, should've responded to those calls, there was like 5 of them. This was all the Iranian pilots fault lol

    • @gattonero2915
      @gattonero2915 Год назад

      @@peterjonston5905 >"should've responded to those calls, there was like 5 of them. "
      A Cruiser captain believing it was a fighter jet, used military frequency trying to squawk a civilian airline that has frequency set to Civilian Frequency. That's not even definition of incompetence, that's just outright moronic. It also shows you that you heard the dialogue and narration, but your ear is so full of wax that you didn't listen and interpret the information correctly. Yes, Your precious Aegis Cruiser captain tried to contact the plane 7 times... ON MILITARY RADIO FREQUENCY TOWARDS AIRLINE PILOT WITH CIVILIAN RADIO FREQUENCY.
      You american are dumber and more self-projecting than i imagined, you cowards will try to place blame on anyone but yourself. Despicable vile creature.

    • @Tsumami__
      @Tsumami__ Год назад

      It’s not baffling. Our military is trash.

    • @peter58peter
      @peter58peter Год назад

      killers having orgy.

    • @t34calliope
      @t34calliope Год назад +9

      @@peterjonston5905 the US ship told them the ground speed of the aircraft (which was different from the data that the airliner received) so the Iranian airliner didn’t think that the us ship was talking to them

  • @facepalmsmom5512
    @facepalmsmom5512 2 года назад +108

    I really want to hug the pilots brother. I feel so bad for everyone but he struck a chord on my heart strings.

    • @jayd6098
      @jayd6098 2 года назад

      Why don't you move other there and give him a hug? After all, the whole world is peace loving, isn't it?

    • @facepalmsmom5512
      @facepalmsmom5512 2 года назад +17

      @@jayd6098 with people who have your attitude clearly not! I’m glad I’m not heartless like you!

    • @jayd6098
      @jayd6098 2 года назад +1

      @@facepalmsmom5512 It is people like us that keep people like you alive. World is not a hunky dory hugging place but the survival of fittest which weak people like you certainly won't last a day without people like us.

    • @facepalmsmom5512
      @facepalmsmom5512 2 года назад +20

      @@jayd6098 so because I want to hug someone that makes me weak?! Lmao! You have no clue what I have been through in my life and how much my family and I have survived! So do me a favour and go back to the bridge you crawled out from under! Bye!!

    • @mohammadbazzi3072
      @mohammadbazzi3072 2 года назад +6

      @@facepalmsmom5512 Good job. He is heartless. He think because of him you live lol. He is a what?

  • @DaemonetteLeilu19
    @DaemonetteLeilu19 Год назад +3

    Thats just a HUGE oversight not being able to detect commercial aircrafts.

  • @RobertJackson437
    @RobertJackson437 7 месяцев назад +4

    "They received a heroes welcome" wow 🤬🤬

  • @MissJade805
    @MissJade805 2 года назад +1493

    As an American, this is a disgrace that they received medals after this tragedy. Instead of being given an award, they should be put behind bars and serve time for this incident. It’s even more shameful that they couldn’t admit their mistakes or give a formal and sincere apology. R.I.P to the people that lost their lives that day, and to the families that lost their loved ones, I’m so sorry for your losses, this is something that shouldn’t of happened and I’m not proud of the decision that my countries Navy carried out that day.

    • @Unknown-fh3ty
      @Unknown-fh3ty 2 года назад +8

      This Scenario fulfillment lead to a destructive loss .... something to learn from this incident

    • @Vishnu-B
      @Vishnu-B 2 года назад +60

      Thanks man. At least as an American citizen you recognize it was the Navy's mistake, I appreciate it.
      Their mistakes were terrible for someone who call themselves the best military in the world but I can somehow make peace that mistakes do happen, everyone is human and not perfect but what's pissing me off more and is unforgivable is that, as you say, their audacity to not admit their mistake, show remorse and apologize.

    • @Amen.ahmed1
      @Amen.ahmed1 2 года назад +12

      Iranian intelligence took their revenge on PanAm flight over Lockerbie. so they're even. except Libyans who paid the price for something they had nothing to do with.

    • @nesrinisli5936
      @nesrinisli5936 2 года назад +24

      Sadly oil seems more valuable than human lives.

    • @nesrinisli5936
      @nesrinisli5936 2 года назад +25

      @@Amen.ahmed1 how can anyone be “even”? People died.

  • @KarakuriPekora
    @KarakuriPekora 2 года назад +394

    A state-of-the-art billion-dollar warship equipped with multiple advanced technologies and weapons could not figure out the time difference. How ironic.

    • @heliozone
      @heliozone 2 года назад +63

      The state-of-the-trash billion-dollar warship HAD NO WORKING RADIO to talk to a simple civilian airplane.

    • @crystaldawn9255
      @crystaldawn9255 2 года назад +4

      Even then the jet could have been taken over by terrorist

    • @democratsarepedos
      @democratsarepedos 2 года назад +5

      They've come a long way in the past 40 years, don't worry.

    • @noahyuen7245
      @noahyuen7245 2 года назад +10

      My phone which only costs 100$ can figure out the time difference .

    • @toowindy1177
      @toowindy1177 2 года назад +4

      @@noahyuen7245 this is 35+ years later though

  • @user-id2bg7ll7o
    @user-id2bg7ll7o 2 месяца назад +1

    These guys always come up the """perfect""' explanation

  • @steveshea7725
    @steveshea7725 6 месяцев назад

    It is utterly crazy that the Vincennes was not equipped with civilian radio, with which they could easily have contacted Bandar Abbas to reach and identify the airliner and have it change course.

  • @cassini4052
    @cassini4052 2 года назад +548

    This was incredibly frustrating to watch considering Mayday episodes are almost always completely focused on the air crash victims. Even the episode on the flight downed by the Soviets focused on the air crash victims, with the Soviets only being brought in during investigation discussion. It feels deeply disrespectful to center the narrative around the perpetrators of the crash while almost entirely ignoring the passengers and crew's final moments, as is standard.

    • @FelonyVideos
      @FelonyVideos 2 года назад +28

      I understand your frustration, but if we tried to address every aspect of this tragedy, the movie would be 18 hours long and no one would watch it at all. I do hope someone has done the video that you describe. The passengers and crew deserve to be remembered, by name, individually. War is so senseless. Evil is everywhere, but I don't think anyone involved was evil. They were just the actors doing as they were told. The truly evil ones are the ones who demand control and power. They do this at any cost to us. They never pay a price. They never sit before a military tribunal, risking prison.

    • @sayansecular8604
      @sayansecular8604 2 года назад +95

      @@FelonyVideos I think what he is trying to show is hypocrisy at play here

    • @heathermcnally7686
      @heathermcnally7686 2 года назад +32

      i understand your point, but as an american, i am glad mayday is highlighting the disgusting mistake by our horrible military that caused this awful, senseless, unforgivable tragedy. so many probably believe the american point of view of this story, and it's so important that the truth is made clear, and laid out like they did in this show, so everyone can see that there was no true way that this was an accident.

    • @FelonyVideos
      @FelonyVideos 2 года назад +6

      Do I need to point out that this is not mayday air disaster channel?

    • @sayansecular8604
      @sayansecular8604 2 года назад +4

      @@heathermcnally7686 i mean if they completely ignored military's point of view then a very villainous view of the military would have been in the minds of the viewer. Just saying.

  • @asgharmalik2476
    @asgharmalik2476 2 года назад +51

    Imagine a fighter jet flying with commercial air liners velocity, sitting duck for a battleship. Professionalism at its best.

    • @MegaRamesh1982
      @MegaRamesh1982 2 года назад +1

      It can fly like a comm air velocity to attack the targets….Isn’t it??

    • @kkloikok
      @kkloikok 2 года назад +1

      Commercial airliners can fly transsonic. So can military aircraft. Do you know how fast airplanes fly? And nobody uses battleships anymore anyways. And if they did it wouldn't be that ships responsibility to engage air targets unless nobody else could.

    • @xxpuballstarxx1043
      @xxpuballstarxx1043 2 года назад +5

      @@kkloikok commercial aircraft don’t fly at supersonic speeds

  • @topteen5318
    @topteen5318 10 месяцев назад +1

    Just wow.... I have no words

  • @simplemathematic9524
    @simplemathematic9524 Год назад +1

    Absolutely tragic

  • @DeadPool-py1gd
    @DeadPool-py1gd 2 года назад +513

    Imagine if it was the other way around, instead of Iranair flight - A us air flight

    • @dantevale0
      @dantevale0 2 года назад +180

      The documentary would certainly be very differently toned.

    • @soeren72
      @soeren72 2 года назад +137

      yup 1 us plane = bomb a whole nation. And confiscate all oil. Haven't we heard this story before.

    • @Joseph-xj4ex
      @Joseph-xj4ex 2 года назад +17

      Nothing would have happened. Invading Iran is nearly impossible. The country is littered with mountains, even more so than Afghanistan. Maybe some airstrikes, but nothing more. Not our fault Iran doesn't have the same capabilities as us.

    • @lorenapacora1526
      @lorenapacora1526 2 года назад +36

      Immediate war. but bc the army was from the """"land of the free""" nothing happened

    • @Dougie1969
      @Dougie1969 2 года назад +1

      @@soeren72
      Don't forget it

  • @MohamedOmar-fl3uu
    @MohamedOmar-fl3uu 2 года назад +151

    The Bitter part of the story is, they shot a civilian jet on its waters claiming to be in over an international waters where the navy was illegally and forcefully operating.

    • @KingCast65
      @KingCast65 2 года назад +3

      rooooight!!!???!!!! OMFG

    • @ayoubh4933
      @ayoubh4933 2 года назад +25

      This is America , and yet they be asking themselves : WhY We ArE sO hATeD ?

    • @Olubumni
      @Olubumni 2 года назад +1

      Pretty much. You nailed it!

    • @draco2xx
      @draco2xx 2 года назад +1

      russia also shot down a chinese civilian airline killing 100s as well

    • @rohandas5643
      @rohandas5643 2 года назад

      @@draco2xx so you are justified things with this basterds

  • @d0cjkl
    @d0cjkl 7 месяцев назад

    5:21 shoutout to the sound crew for using the keystroke sounds followed by the buzzer sound from the atari 400/800 computers

  • @user-vx8gd9yj9e
    @user-vx8gd9yj9e 7 месяцев назад

    There are two things here, either the captain of the ship did not trust the aircraft captain declaring the plane as civilian went ahead to bring down the plane after discovering what they have done they had to find cover-up or for sure there was communication break down between the aircraft and the ship , but how?

  • @adiakiyes6354
    @adiakiyes6354 2 года назад +230

    May all the souls of Iran air flight 655 rest in peace.🙏

  • @grizzleg8729
    @grizzleg8729 Год назад +635

    Having served in the US Navy myself, this is an absolutely heartbreaking. Discovery. Why aren’t sailors told of this issue? Since bootcamp We’re always being reminded of USS Forrestall and USS Cole all through our service years so as to not repeat the mistakes. Why haven’t we heard about this one? And the fact that they all received awards afterwards? It’s despicable

    • @michaelmappin4425
      @michaelmappin4425 Год назад +21

      Maybe you're too young. I knew all about the Vincennes and the Stark.

    • @quasarsavage
      @quasarsavage Год назад +1

      I mean the awards were for saving the billion dollar ship during their deployment not for killing civilians (that goes unmentioned as it was swept under the rug for political reasons) had this been the modern USN they would court martial the CO XO and CMC into oblivion (look at the BHR witchhunt or the crash of the USS Fitzgerald in 2017)

    • @williamfeilhauer
      @williamfeilhauer Год назад +12

      Thanks for your service. It's amazing this mistake wasn't made part of the curriculum for all new classes.

    • @jcmate1692
      @jcmate1692 Год назад +13

      Because all defence forces want doers not thinkers their not aloud to have a suggestion, voice an opinion or ask a question. I'm sure there were naval personnel in that command center that would been thinking the same thing squawk the code call the Iranian flight tower to confirm it and lots of other things they could have done this is no different than getting into a argument with a guy in a bar then sneaking up behind him and king hitting him killing him the only difference is the guy that through the punch doesn't work for the government is not protected by the government and will not get any medals for killing an innocent person. If this can happen on this ship what about a nuclear sub mistaking firing off a nuclear missile

    • @grizzleg8729
      @grizzleg8729 Год назад +15

      @@michaelmappin4425 I served from 2007-2014. So this definitely should’ve been made mandatory study imo. Im very familiar with the stark as well. But this is new to me

  • @moosehead4497
    @moosehead4497 Год назад +2

    When the US Navy men say "They were scared their lives were at risk" Does anyone seriously believe them?

  • @chrisw.5138
    @chrisw.5138 4 месяца назад +4

    That thing was so fishy, I really wish I could believe the accidental scenario that was given by the crew and us navy report. The actual facts, the violation of territorial waters in direct line of the commercial flight path, the constant misinterpretation of the targets information, the disregard for the correct information plus the commendations given by the navy to officers responsible, makes me think this is no innocent accident at all.

  • @yazikhodayar
    @yazikhodayar 2 года назад +164

    Im iranian. I feel so bad for people who were just trying to fly to a destination die. they don't deserve it.

    • @ruthaakamonica5602
      @ruthaakamonica5602 2 года назад +21

      Right and in their own airspace !!!!! I WILL NEVER understand this and I AM SORRY

    • @hassanrehman230
      @hassanrehman230 2 года назад +11

      Us navy should have been held accountable and punished for this act

    • @kai937gaming
      @kai937gaming 2 года назад +1

      @@hassanrehman230 exactly

    • @1mol831
      @1mol831 2 года назад

      @@hassanrehman230 Not really, unless they manage to attack maybe multiple high priority Chinese civilian aircraft in "Chinese" airspace, which could spark a war in the South China sea, and the initial ship that engages might be too close to escape and gets sunk by retaliation. Ultimately Chinese navy can easily be defeated after sustaining a couple thousand casualties, but then at least the initial engagement would probably see the individuals who fired the first shot lose their lives.

    • @cookiesaregood8844
      @cookiesaregood8844 2 года назад +4

      Iran shot down a Canadian Ukrainian airplane with 174 civilians on board and they weren't even doing anything wrong unlike this plane which flew near a US ship. The Iranian government said at first they did it in defense cause they thought it was an enemy, they then changed it all up and said they "unintentionally" killed 174 people

  • @modicajohn
    @modicajohn Год назад +464

    The mockery part is that , he was given a medals for job well done 😭

    • @fool-mf6sf
      @fool-mf6sf Год назад

      I mean in USA, police officers killing innocent people get paid leave

    • @user12345abcdeft
      @user12345abcdeft Год назад +11

      Very shocking indeed

    • @mechwarrior4793
      @mechwarrior4793 Год назад +28

      That's the US for ya. 🤣

    • @greymann
      @greymann Год назад +9

      Officers often receive medals after major screwups--I suppose so they don't feel bad and have something shiny to put on their chest. ( Sometimes enlisted as well.)

    • @Angel-zx6mt
      @Angel-zx6mt Год назад +1

      @@greymann ooh really , but at least that part shouldn't have been posted.

  • @agastyasworld450
    @agastyasworld450 Год назад +1

    Wow what a tragedy that flight

  • @auramire6304
    @auramire6304 Год назад +10

    I was willing to give them the benefit of the doubt up until it turned out that the captain had the ability to double check the data himself, and never did. In addition to putting the ship in a position they never should have been in, and the plane never actually diving. The fact that they were instead rewarded for the deaths of hundreds of innocent civilians is downright disgusting.

    • @jonathandpg6115
      @jonathandpg6115 3 месяца назад

      It’s easy to say that but when given a lot of information and a lot to check, how much is the captain going to have to double check? In a perfect world, yes he’d have the time to double check everything….but sadly it’s not. He was in a fight situation that he couldn’t back down from.

  • @JasonT850
    @JasonT850 2 года назад +562

    As an American I am so sorry to those that lost loved ones that day. To the US Navy I am ashamed of you for awarding these sailors as heroes who killed innocent civilians when that ship should never have been there to begin with. That Captain disobeyed a direct order.

    • @andybrugman3619
      @andybrugman3619 2 года назад +42

      It takes guts to write down what you just wrote bro you are a good and decent human being

    • @armanfrn
      @armanfrn 2 года назад +30

      It's a shame that our politicians made us look like we are terrorists.I asked an American what did he think about Iranians and he said, terrorists. That's just pure shame on our politicians.

    • @toyotaandlexussupercharged6699
      @toyotaandlexussupercharged6699 2 года назад +6

      They are heroes

    • @r0n718
      @r0n718 2 года назад +2

      Respect 👊🏻

    • @kingwacky184
      @kingwacky184 2 года назад +25

      @@toyotaandlexussupercharged6699 Would you have said the same if it was an Iranian warship that shot down an American Airlines plane with your family and friends on it? I mean not only American troops are heroes. Would you be as supportive if it was the other way around? Would you have called the Iranian navy heroes?

  • @Nikkupikku123
    @Nikkupikku123 Год назад +35

    The audacity to give them hero status is beyond me.

  • @James-ik8yz
    @James-ik8yz 8 месяцев назад +3

    Why didnt they send a F16? Or a Hellacopter ? 😮😢

  • @SS-xv7xf
    @SS-xv7xf 6 месяцев назад +2

    Complete negligence. The simple act of looking at your screen could have saved 290 lives!

  • @carlosponte9907
    @carlosponte9907 2 года назад +577

    It is extremely disturbing to see that this whole "critical threatening situation" was completely made up in their own, tunnel vision, military minds, including decision data such as "aircraft descending" information. The equipment may have been state of the art but the personnel interpreting it imagined a threat that wasn't there. They said they warned the aircraft several times when they didn't even transmit the warnings in the proper frequency, they didn't even think that there could be the possibility that the civilian crew never heard them and simply "checked the box" of appropriate warnings performed.
    They not only got away with murder, they got a pat on their backs.
    Very repulsive.

    • @cheery-hex
      @cheery-hex 2 года назад +19

      you hit it exactly when you said military minds. that's the main problem. Any other captain of 'said thing', had he been responsible, would have felt guilty, changed his name, and moved far away to live a quiet life. these guys rationalize friendly fire as part of the job

    • @Perfectpearl
      @Perfectpearl 2 года назад

      40:43

    • @primesidegamers7271
      @primesidegamers7271 2 года назад +2

      If so disturbing,then don't see

    • @ivanbuendia6974
      @ivanbuendia6974 2 года назад +4

      It’s so easy to judge from the comfort of your home

    • @Afterburner
      @Afterburner 2 года назад +6

      You did watch the video right? Where they warned the aircraft to the best of their ability and didn't get a response? It's easy to Monday morning quarterback until your body is in the firing line and in a full on battle. That crew did their jobs and it's Iran to blame for creating this situation. Focus the blame where it belongs.

  • @zachboyd4749
    @zachboyd4749 2 года назад +141

    Apparently someone else had a score to settle with Captain Rogers. Nine months after the shootdown of 655, his wife Sharon was waiting at a red light in the family's minivan in San Diego when a pipe bomb planted on the vehicle exploded. The minivan immediately burst into flames, but Sharon managed to escape uninjured and nobody was hurt. The bomber's identity has never been found, and as of 2003 it remains an unsolved case.

    • @yuvanbaldwinew9282
      @yuvanbaldwinew9282 2 года назад +36

      I'm sure she was descending well driving . My guess I was the victim s family.

    • @gloppy101
      @gloppy101 2 года назад +6

      Wow, I have never heard this info. Jebus, that's horrible and thank God she was not killed. Did the US ever pay reparations for these hundreds of deaths? So much technology and it and crew screwed up big time. RIP good people of Iran.

    • @salmansadozai5500
      @salmansadozai5500 2 года назад +12

      @@gloppy101 money can't bring people back.

    • @deprofundis3293
      @deprofundis3293 2 года назад +18

      @@salmansadozai5500 no, but they still should have paid reparations. And done more. Such a frustrating tragedy.

    • @societydisorder3864
      @societydisorder3864 2 года назад +6

      They had one job and couldn't do it...let's hope they get someone in that family

  • @Luna_moon_1127
    @Luna_moon_1127 Год назад +4

    25:48 yes, this plane was headed in that direction, but it was not levelled off and it was continuing to climb in altitude, meaning that they were not having to attack scene, and I can’t believe US military got away with killing this many people they literally had an option to look into it when a plane is climbing, it is not actively attacking something. They cannot shoot missiles wilder acclimate to altitude.

  • @markr.devereux3385
    @markr.devereux3385 9 месяцев назад

    The remote take over of the controls. around 2008 I listened to show where a pilot revealed a hightech chip will be installed in all American passenger jets by manufacturer to land a aircraft. He was concerned it was being done without looking at the possible misuse of such a system. I have not heard this discussed until this documentary which really did a job on this mystery.

  • @trisgilmour
    @trisgilmour 2 года назад +356

    This is so heartbreaking 💔 Rest In Peace to all of the victims

  • @Herr2Cents
    @Herr2Cents 2 года назад +272

    I can't imagine the horror that the passengers experienced.

    • @villanthedoom4920
      @villanthedoom4920 2 года назад +56

      I think it would be instant death, so not really

    • @denise8791
      @denise8791 2 года назад +25

      None. They had no idea.

    • @villanthedoom4920
      @villanthedoom4920 2 года назад +15

      @@denise8791 Yeah the missles were pretty powerful so it would just insta kill anyone on board

    • @nabinshrestha3388
      @nabinshrestha3388 2 года назад +4

      @@villanthedoom4920 Yup they did. How ever I believe the family members are still wounded and probably won't heal until their death. Justice was not served, as per the video. How ever I hope they made ratifications so to make sure this kind of mistake does not happen again.

    • @villanthedoom4920
      @villanthedoom4920 2 года назад +6

      @@nabinshrestha3388 yeah, as they said on that 9/11 flight it's sad that the victims will suffer less pain than their relatives

  • @charlesmckenzie5250
    @charlesmckenzie5250 Год назад +4

    Multiple warnings,plenty of opportunities to avoid. Sometimes you ignore people at your own peril

    • @oghenefejiroprinceimene6090
      @oghenefejiroprinceimene6090 11 месяцев назад +1

      You must be mad...did you not watch the video carefully...different altitude reading and call out..was the plane ever descending...

    • @j.a.3138
      @j.a.3138 9 месяцев назад

      @@oghenefejiroprinceimene6090 lack of comms gave it away

  • @alexawad8203
    @alexawad8203 Год назад +1

    So Sad could have & should not have happened RIP to all that Lost there lives

  • @itsabouttime820
    @itsabouttime820 2 года назад +160

    After all these years this tragedy still lingers on with me as well. May your brother and all those innocents lives rest in peace.

  • @hammondnordland4822
    @hammondnordland4822 2 года назад +78

    The troubling thing is, not only the US never apologized about this horrible mistake, they even gave the guys behind the shooting medals when they returned!

    • @LaniakeaDenizen
      @LaniakeaDenizen 2 года назад +6

      I thought Regan apologized for it a year later. Then the US paid a large amount of reparations to the victims' families.

    • @kuwaitisnotadeployment1373
      @kuwaitisnotadeployment1373 2 года назад +13

      Apologize? Who cares about a apology? Did Iran apologize for kidnapping our diplomats?

    • @titan4110
      @titan4110 2 года назад +9

      @@kuwaitisnotadeployment1373 Well if you don't apologize to someone they won't apologize to you. Treat others like how you want them to treat you. Iran forgot that important life lesson. I am not saying shooting down a civilian airliner is a good thing, but point still stands.

    • @quintus7581
      @quintus7581 2 года назад +6

      But the US did pay $400,000 'voluntarily' to the victims families. As far as I know, no Navy officer was punished for the horrific failure.

    • @Interdictiondeltawing
      @Interdictiondeltawing 2 года назад +1

      Also The CVR and FDR. They never recover the flight recorders

  • @warnalmstek5448
    @warnalmstek5448 Год назад +1

    ...more like a crime.
    But a tragedy never less.

  • @joy2406
    @joy2406 7 месяцев назад +1

    I feel the US Navy ship should have called the respective ATC before arriving at thier own conclusions.

  • @RedHotMessResell
    @RedHotMessResell 2 года назад +15

    This is one of the things I hate about war. Innocent people getting killed in the mix. People that have nothing to do with the conflict.

  • @nimueh4298
    @nimueh4298 2 года назад +433

    We often point the fingers at other countries for not taking accountability for their actions but unfortunately we are no better. Hypocrisy runs everywhere.

    • @bf1769
      @bf1769 2 года назад +7

      The regime in Iran deliberately let the civilian airplane fly over the war zone, where the revolutionary guards were simultaneosly attacking US ships.

    • @nabinshrestha3388
      @nabinshrestha3388 2 года назад +37

      @@bf1769 So that is the justification from you for taking down the lives of 290 innocent people. The commercial airline was on its own route, was not descending as far as I understand didn't make any mistakes. whereas the U.S ship was in others territory, reached while looking for some action, got engaged in the combat because it didn't follow its superiors command and ultimately took down the commercial aircraft.

    • @bf1769
      @bf1769 2 года назад +6

      @@nabinshrestha3388 I reject the inhumane actions of the regime in Iran, which attacked a US ship, while letting a civilian airplane fly over the same area. They deliberately tried to get those civilians killed for propaganda purposes.
      The regime occupying Iran also shot another airplane in January 2020 killing mostly Iranian people.

    • @bf1769
      @bf1769 2 года назад +1

      @Nunyobizness Nunyobizness Iran's navy was not involved. It was the IRGC terrorist organization.

    • @thomasheyart7033
      @thomasheyart7033 2 года назад +1

      Actually, the US admitted that a US Navy ship did shoot down the plane. Since the Iranian aircraft was operating in violation of international law, they invited the risk.

  • @msbayramoglu1
    @msbayramoglu1 9 месяцев назад +2

    Shame on these guys who shot down a civilian aircraft and they have been rewarded with medals! Shame on US Navy

  • @duetsteam9611
    @duetsteam9611 10 месяцев назад +1

    in a world where technology grows ever more sophisticated, fear the most basic of human instinct can create the greatest tragedies

  • @MarianaPhoenix
    @MarianaPhoenix 2 года назад +712

    Perhaps I would feel some empathy for the person who made this decision if he had shown some remorse. Personally, I don't think I could live with myself knowing I was responsible for the loss of 316 innocent lives, but the captain not only lived on, but also sat there finding justification for his actions and looking like what he did was right. The plane did not show any sign of being a threat and it was an Iranian plane flying through Iranian air space. US militarry ships should not have been there in the first place. What a horrible turn of events. The captain should have been suspended at the very least, but instead he got a medal and for what?

    • @iiaf5356
      @iiaf5356 2 года назад +54

      The funny thing is Iranian f14s are not carrying any air to ground missile or something like that and f14s are only used for air-to-air combat !
      even if there was an f14 there was no threat for us navy

    • @notalexzander2
      @notalexzander2 2 года назад +8

      @@iiaf5356 the crew was briefed that there were AGM-equipped tomcats in the area.

    • @kquinnvandevelde1384
      @kquinnvandevelde1384 2 года назад +4

      I totally agree. Even though they should've been punished either way to make it clear such mistakes were not to be tolerated, I might be more understanding if it weren't for the way he and the higher ups acted like just because his intentions were proper, this means the actions were as well.
      Edit: okay I wrote this before I finished watching the episode and I just finished and now I feel a lot less empathy hearing about how they acted before even running into the plane

    • @sepehr.javaheri
      @sepehr.javaheri 2 года назад +26

      @@kquinnvandevelde1384 They were the aggressors and these crimes are rarely done by mistake.
      Then they come up with lies and hide critical evidence that would expose their true bad intentions and crimes abroad.

    • @kquinnvandevelde1384
      @kquinnvandevelde1384 2 года назад +5

      @@sepehr.javaheri yeah, that's why I added my edit to the end. I wrote my original comment before finishing the episode and while it wasn't something to be forgiven necessarily, it seemed at first like human error that was definitely horrible, but unintentional. Once I finished the episode, I'd completely changed my opinion, but it felt disingenuous to delete my comment.

  • @zuhairahmad7837
    @zuhairahmad7837 2 года назад +157

    The US shoot down a passenger aircraft because it came too near its warship and yet they don't show any remorse Or apologise for what happened. Wow.

    • @averageforzaplayer1048
      @averageforzaplayer1048 2 года назад +4

      There will always be civilian casualties and collateral damage in a war, but your right, they should have done more to apologize

    • @codylapoint
      @codylapoint 2 года назад +3

      Well they paid off the families of the victims. Its telling how this story gets spread like wildfire, but the much more recent incident where Iran shot down it's own passenger airline a couple years ago was forgotten about before the body parts were even scraped off of the ground.

    • @princejhie32
      @princejhie32 2 года назад +2

      Because that aircraft didn't response to radio

    • @renumihai5263
      @renumihai5263 2 года назад +7

      @@princejhie32 because the US navy is so incompetent that could not send the right message on the right radio frequency, the black box of the plane it's the proof of it

    • @ikkelimburg3552
      @ikkelimburg3552 2 года назад +1

      Oh the US did aknowledged in 1996 before the International Court of Justice that is was a ‘great human tragedy’ and offered their ‘deepest symphaties’. In that agreement, the US was not to hold legally accountable for the shooting of the commercial plane in exchange for 61,8 million dollar in compensation on a ‘volunteering’ basis. (213,103 dollar and 44 cents per victim)

  • @devilord300
    @devilord300 Год назад +7

    For all those so called experts sharing their wisdom, if it was an Iranian Ship (under same circumstances) shooting down, maybe a Pan Am flight.....would they still be so flippant about this incident? The audacity is immeasurable.

  • @tejasthorat9250
    @tejasthorat9250 2 года назад +238

    In a nutshell, you are telling me the US Navy failed to identify the difference between ascending and descending, ignored that the aircraft was squaking 6760, and gave most of the distress calls on the wrong frequency. When they gave the calls on the right frequency, they were incorrect. So, even after all of this, the crew received hero's welcome, and we're not accountable. They killed 200 inocent people.
    US Navy at its best....

    • @twistedyogert
      @twistedyogert 2 года назад +4

      Perhaps it's because the plane was from Iran. US relations with Iran have been less than stellar ever since the hostage crisis. I'm starting to think that if one can find an excuse to kill Persians they'd do it.

    • @daktarioskarvannederhosen2568
      @daktarioskarvannederhosen2568 2 года назад +10

      usa is the centrality of evil in many ways.

    • @uglybetty8747
      @uglybetty8747 2 года назад +1

      @@daktarioskarvannederhosen2568 yes

    • @pikachu5647
      @pikachu5647 2 года назад +15

      @@twistedyogert how is it surprising that an Iranian plane was flying over Iran?

    • @cookiesaregood8844
      @cookiesaregood8844 2 года назад +3

      Iran shot down a Canadian Ukrainian airplane with 174 civilians on board and they weren't even doing anything wrong unlike this plane which flew near a US ship. The Iranian government said at first they did it in defense cause they thought it was an enemy, they then changed it all up and said they "unintentionally" killed 174 people