We Wouldn't Pay Over Retail For These Bourbons!
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- Опубликовано: 22 май 2024
- There is a lot of bourbon out there, some of it's a good value and some of it's not worth retail. Is blanton's worth retail? Most of us would say yes but is it worth more? This is a question we get asked quite often. So let's break down some bottles we'd only pay retail for and not a penny over.
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I blame people who will pay whatever the $ is. Bourbon and ammo, same thing. Hold out, stop paying too much.
I hear you. I pay too much. It’s better to make a statement and say “Forget it to a ridiculous price!” Single Malt Scotch and Bourbon prices are out of control.
ER being $60 and 9mm being 40¢ a round are travesties
Exactly. Bottles that were $40 not that long ago magickly became $80 or even $120. Fuck that, I will never support the current price gouging.
I’ve been holding out on ammo prices for 10 years now. Lol
@@Jbs6187 Esp. with them trying to negate the sales of NATO rounds to the civilian mkt.
Power bottom is crazy🤣🤣😂😂😂🤣🤣 “We back in business” is just as wild🤣😂😂😂😂😂😂
The msrp on several of these bottles have already jumped into do not buy price range in the past few months.
Midwinter, JMCB for sure
I live in a state where the state owns all the liquor stores. From listening to you guys run through the prices I’m glad I do. Our prices are about half of yours.
Me too, we don't have the selection but what we do have is msrp
Agreed. It’s makes the Hunt that much more worth it when you find it at retail. Cheers 🥃
I live in a state that owns all the liquor too, but we don't get half the choices of regular states.
The prices might be nice (I've shopped in VA which has ABC stores) but the selection is limited to where you have to win a lottery to have the privilege of buying it AND have to be a state resident. So, if you want to really hunt harder to get allocated stuff you either have to be lucky or look in another state.
Not me. I've been to those states and the selection is pathetic for anyone who doesn't live in the state and personally know the store owner.
Junkies are the kind of guys who would happily pay retail on an Old Carter for $250, but that's ALL they're gonna pay. Definitely wouldn't want to overspend, that would be crazy.
Just got the OF SBBS Store Pick in Alberta for $129.99 CAD. It's my first SBBS so I am happy with the 129 price tag for now. I will see after I try it out.
Terrific video/info! Congratulations Sean! So happy to hear you and your wife had your baby!! Lovely news!!
I have so many Larceny BP bottles. Really like them.
Retail for JMCB is now around 200 in control states (ID, UT). Got it for 175 in Montana.
Congrats @Sean on the Baby 👶
Our group did a 4R pick last year and were shocked when the barrel arrived and cost was higher than previous SRP. So those SRP increases are cost driven. We priced ours at $99 and took shallower profit as getting to three figures for a barrel pick is tough territory.
Great video guys. Keep it up. And Congratulations Sean!
Sean we 10000000% agree with you on OFBB lol. But I was originally going to say if you put that 4 Roses LE we were going to have to have a conversation my friend lol.
I would never!
I’ve always thought if somebody doubles the price that’s ok for nice bottles, but when people 7x shit is when I’m like wtf is going on here 😂
It's always weird when there seems to be no consistency between markup though. A place I go has welller SR for like 80 or 90, but eagle rare at 45. It's confounding but at least ER is cheap lol
@@grcfan can you really call marked up cheap?
Birthday bourbon? Isn't that on the MSRP shelf right behind all the Pappy bottles?
Just picked up a Winn Dixie pick from Old Forester for 65 😏 might go back and grab another!
One of my local stores had the Joseph Magnus Cigar Blend and I got excited. They wanted $500 a bottle!! I let that one hang out on the shelf a little longer.
I love the Mitchers sour mash toasted barrel. Sofa king good.
The latest release of the Larceny BP was tripled in production this year and as a result the price dropped to 50 msrp...at least here in RI. We have been drinking it for a while and when it first came out we were getting it for 45 regularly and then it disappeared for a while and came back at the 70-80 range you spoke of in this video. But now i think its a great bang for you buck whisky at 50.
what are you bringing to this relationship.....love it
I feel like SRP on 4Roses picks moved to $110 at some point. Literally every store I know has been listing them at $110 and these are stores that ALWAYS sell at SRP. One store regularly sells good bottles at the lowest prices in the state and country (like Barrell Craft gray labels for $139)
No shot a pick needs to be that much, too much creep on prices when they were half that just a few years ago
$99.99 is SRP in Mi
I do like the look of that Angels Envy cask strength bottle, very cool with the red top. I hate their regular selections, but I’ve never had the cask strength. I’m sure it’s good if you’re willing to pay that ridiculous price.
I would love to find a Michter’s Toasted Sour Mash. Love the regular Sour Mash one of my favorite pours.
A buddy of mine has two of those orphan barrels. Might have to bottle swap something for one from him.
Other than Store picks (although I did get the L.E.s of those or Distillery only's of those)......I got all of those in 2023. Most were really good and worth the price.
Congrats Sean and Gabby for the new edition!
I guess I got lucky and managed to get a great bottle of the OFBP store pick in VA. And, got it for retail. Great review.
100 agree with the birthday bourbon. Tried a sample from a friend, nose was amazing but the palate was just decent.
Gotta Love the comment @ 8:49 ...no truer words have been said.
The JMCB from a few years back are tremendous. I have batch 78 and it's for sure worth 200. Haven't had any newer batches.
The newer ones have more barton and less mgp and the age has dropped significantly. Still super well made, just not what they were
In my control state and at the distilleries when I was there in October the 🌹 and Shenk’s are both $100 bottles and I’d pay that all day for them. Shenk’s was actually more at Michter’s than that but I was still happy about it. That 2023 Shenk’s is damn good
The Four Roses store picks just got a price increase this year, at least in my area. Retail is up to $100, and I agree that I wouldn’t pay more than that.
I've bought OBSV, OESK, and OESO this year. Most expensive one was $80. They're good, but $80 is about my max I'd pay. And that's because regular Four Roses single barrel is one of my favorite readily available bourbons.
@@steventhrasher3608 That’s awesome! I work for one of my local liquor distributors so I know that the cost for the liquor stores here is about $82. With a standard 20% margin, that means that by the time it gets in the store, it’s easily $100-105 on the shelf. I still think they’re great whiskey, but I think they were a no-brainer at $80.
Oklahoma only has a secondary market. If u want any bourbon for instance Jo. Magnus cigar blend here is $350. An 18 yr old Elijah almost $400 etc. I am down to just buying the Ben Holliday soft red wheat and some other BIB. Grew up in Flint and my brothers live there so I always have a bug in their ears for certain bottles.
The Four Roses Barrel Proof pick I may pay a little more for, just because in the DMV area they are pretty rare. Fortunately, I did find a store that had a bottle for $99, so I don't have to worry about that. I've seen those go as high as $250, which I just can't do
I'm not even $99 on those anymore. Seen a lot of those around the 9 year mark lately. I'd rather save 40 to 50 dollars and buy a Knob Creek single barrel. If they are clocking in closer to 12 years, then it might be worth it
I don't understand. When I went into the Michter's Fort Nelson spot and asked if they had any toasteds, the guy laughed at me and said they never come in. My suspicion is not to pay any creedence to that, and what I should have done was just pop each day while I was in town to see for myself.
Walked in my local NC ABC last weekend and JMCB #210 was on the shelf $199, never have seen a bottle so I pulled the trigger! 210 is a meaningful # for me and my wife, so no tears at the $!
Speaking of store picks, I've had 6 different OF barrel proof ones and they've all been outstanding. I buy them and Four Roses picks without question. Now I've never had AE Cask Strength, but I have had a store pick of it at less than half as much money, so I'm surprised you didn't go store pick for the Angel's too. Have you had an Angel's store pick and would you still say that the CS is worth more than double the price?
old forester mega bev pick, for us michigan people. got it 4 weeks ago
My store in NY usually sells for close to retail as possible with some unicorns being a little more expensive and it’s probably saved me thousands. Just bought a George T Stagg for $250.
I do overpay for Shenk’s because I can never find it anywhere but online, but the taste varies year to year, and to Dan’s point, it’s not labeled as bourbon or “straight” anything, so it could contain added coloring or flavoring. I don’t think Michter’s would do that, but who knows 🤷🏻♂.
Its their sour mash whiskey which is why it doesnt say bourbon, the mashbill is below 51%
My air force base class 6 sometimes has angels envy that looks like the normal bottle, but is around 116 proof. Is that a pick? And should I pick those up if I want something similar to the Cask Strength, but dont want to pay well over 200?
Local store has 3 magnus cigar blends for $230… tempting but just can’t do it for that price.
MWND is everywhere this year. No one should pay more than retail, especially considering it’s not THAT good
I usually pick a$40 bottle
Dan you always reference your bunker can you give us a bunker tour of the bottles you have in there and why
Interesting takes. I think 4R SBBS is a big palate preference thing. I love it. I'll take one over Stagg (JR) or EHT BP every time. Recently snagged 5 different OF SBBS picks and I love them all. They're all wildly different LIKE the 4R picks are different and that is something I appreciate.
That being said, I'd pay up to 125 for a 4R SBBS and up to 100 for an OF SBBS. But that's about it. At least the 4R stuff is age stated.
That being said, EC Private Barrels, I would pay over retail for those. They're the thing that are wildly inconsistent for me and almost always drink like straight fire if they're over 126 proof. And I say that as a huge ECBP fan.
I call four roses the cilantro of whiskey. Most people taste pear cherry and oak, but theres a small percentage that taste overwhelming spearmint gum
Living in a control state everything’s retail around these parts.
I over payed today. A couple of bottles I rarely see, so minimal regret. Wish I’d grabbed the Weller 12 though
Jigs is awesome, you had any of the Whistlepig picks he did?
I just picked up a OF store pick, glad to see it on here. If I blinded it, I’d honestly think it’s a good batch of Stagg Jr.
Where does the Bourye rank on your list?
Just bought an Old Forester Single Barrel pick at 132 proof and I can attest that it is straight heat. The alcohol vapor overpowers the nose and palate, unfortunately. But when I put it on a whiskey cube is does become delicious and the classic Old Forester flavors come through in a big way. Mainly bought it because it was a combo deal with a Weller 107 pick, but I wouldn't buy again and I love Old Forester. Sounds like I got an inferior pick compared to others at least.
I have 4 and my bro has 2, and we have only been collecting for a year. There's prob 3 we seen but didnt get, at least. They are so hit or miss. The 4 i have, 2 are decent. The 2 my bro has are pretty damn good.
For OF picks, the warehouse makes a huge difference. The K, H, and i think L or I are the best ones. Not just from the ones we have, but also from the research i have done tends to agree. The ones that are really good, are absolute bangers. Some right away, some take a bit to open up.
When is that hoodie gonna be in the merch shop
Agree on Birthday
Without reading all the comments so apologies if this has already been said……. You guys should do a video where you discuss your rerated bottles where you now have a different opinion. I’d love to see what you guys like (or dislike) versus your original review
the store near me has larceny BP for $55 all day, its a cant miss bottle at that price
Meijer in Grand Rapids has Old Forester pics two or three times a year
I've got an OF Rye SiB but have yet to see the OF Picks
I will overpay for the AE every year- I haven't found a store pick in same ball park as the LE cask strength- right in my wheel house. Concur on rest of list on both
So you need to do a show on what's in your bourbon bunker.
My bro and i just started our bourbon journey a year ago. I have 4 OF picks, he has 2. Of my 4, 2 are pretty good. The 2 he has are really good. And we havent even bought all the ones we've seen. They are all over MA. The warehouse absolutely matters. K, H, and I, seem to be the best ones, G is so so. This isnt just from the ones we have, but from the research i have done, tend to agree. They are so hit or miss, but when they hit, they are bangers. They are all pretty damn hot, some are just so hot all you get is heat, which idk why the places doing the picks even accept them. But the good ones, eventhough they're hot, they have amazing flavor, which is why i kept buying them even after getting some duds.
Four roses picks are a little more consistent, but i havent found any absolute bangers. I have a couple and tasted a couple others. Never been super impressed with them.
Angles envy, i always stayed away from them because i never heard good things from them, ppl usually say they are pretty flat/muted. But i did sample one that was really damn good, so now im going to pay more attention to them, from stores i trust. Not total wine, cause their picks almost always suck, for everything.
Bradley.... best last name ever 😂😂
I have a little left in my Old Forester store pick 100 proof from a couple years ago. It blows away everything I've ever had and I think it was about $60, should have bought more.
We haven't ever seen an OF100 pick in the wild.
It's easy to say you won't pay over until you see one at a not ridiculously high price tag.
And the "power bottom" response, without hesitation, was absolutely hysterical.
The first Barterhouse 20 bottles i bought were at $75, the last ones, years later were at $350. You can still find them for $500+ online. The first set out had a really unique flavor profile, like maraschino cherries with toasted french oak. Later bottlings seemed more muted or took more air /time to develop that profile. The point is, with every allocated/ special bottling, the lowest price is when it first comes out (and nobody knows if its any good) and it seems to just go up from there, the more time elapses from release date. Supply, demand, followed by eventual scarcity… why am i wasting my time investing in equities/ stocks? Oh f***, because i keep drinking the whiskey!😂
Four Roses barrel picks are $99-$129 here in MN.
Current msrp is 110
I guess the cost on the bottle for Liq Stores is $90 which I guess went up from last year so that's why you're seeing more on shelves in MN this year for greater than $100.
Ive been a fan of Larceny BP long before it ever made Minnick's list. And now i can just expect to pay more for it. Thanks Fred.
costco usually has it for 55
Been a big fan of it for a while as well. Unfortunately Louisiana barely gets any of it. So now, it will go from hard to find to impossible to find.
@@derekdejean5665I feel you. Only after about 3-4 years I finally got eagle rare in louisiana, and only recently found regular Buffalo trace. Don’t even get me started on trying to find absolutely anything else… it’s impossible
Best whiskey of the year for me. I've never seen it marked up above $70.
lol @ the bookmarks being peated scotch
Lol finally found the cutter I see
I pay 49.99 for four roses single barrel
Just got a store pick four roses barrel strength for 100 not sure if i over paid but I’ve never seen one in the wild till today
Our state min is 90 I believe
Not even paying MSRP for midwinter nights dram. There’s at least a couple other port finished ryes for half the price that are better
I admit I pay too much for Single Malt Scotch and Bourbon. My husband does too. I know it doesn’t help keeping spirit prices reasonable. I will do better! lol!
Midwinters act 11 was $124.99 at the distillery in Utah.
It was 174 msrp in Georgia.
I have a michters toasted sour mash. Not a big fan. I also have a michters toasted barrel proof rye, again, not a big fan, better than the toasted sour mash, but still not nearly as good as i was hoping for. The bombergers and shenks are much better. I should actually get back into the BP toasted rye to see if it opened up any since i havent had much of it, but i have had a few pours over a month or so n wasnt thrilled about it.
I got Midwinter's Night Dram at Costco for $118.
Paid $300 for this year's mid-winters...saw it in another store later in the day (in a completely unexpected place) for $180...kick. in. the. nuts. Also, I have seen the birthday bourbon on a shelf for $1200 this year...same guy had last years for $1400...
Well shoot, I would have bought the 2nd bottle just to make myself feel a bit better lol
Well if it makes you feel better 180 is super high for a midwinters too.
The real kick in the nuts is they produced like 180,000 bottles of it last year (MWND). I think true MSRP for it is $130. Most places around me have it for between $150-$180 and I've passed on buying it no less than 5 times already where as in years past I never saw a single bottle.
Costco had pallets of it for $118 here. Can't imagine paying almost 3x that.
I picked up a bottle of Stag Jr for $56, so I feel like that redeemed me this holiday season. Colorado isn't as easy as some whiskytubers might have you believe.
Just saw MWND at a store today for $500, but this store is notorious for their prices
Four Roses single barrel is about $45 by me. I think it’s a great buy for that.
Interesting regional difference on OF BP and Four Roses BP. In the Northeast, I have only had delicious OF BP bottles, but as much as I like 4🌹s, I find them to be much more inconsistent. $100 for either is my limit. Birthday Bourbon doesn’t stand up to 117, Presidents, or even OF BP (not tasted 1924 yet). Would I buy a Birthday bottle if I could find one, yes, but would limit to $150. I also agree, it is disappointing what High West has done. At $90 the MWD was great! I looked at one on the shelf @$150 this year after tasting it in a bar, and thinking with inflation, maybe $120, but at $150 stay on the shelf. I am a big Heaven Hill fan and buy all I can get of ECBP and Larceny BP. The ECBP has been regressing and Larceny has been getting better, but paying above $70?? I hope not! I stopped buying both Blanton’s and Henry McKenna 10, when the prices went over $60. I am also disappointed in Joseph Magnus cigar blend. I have happily paid $90 for standard or Murray Hill, however I wouldn’t pay more than $125 for cigar blend. There are so many other whiskeys that bring more to the table than that one.
149 for the tippins pick. Too expensive. But I night it for the holidays.
Is your Four Roses single barrel an OESK?
JMCB is 200 state minimum in Michigan.
For the Birthday Bourbon…Sean needs to take a timeout. Damn😮
I don't know what it is about the 4 Roses but I get a really herbal note off their products no matter which mash bill.
I'm confused. Here in Alberta Canada, we are paying $40 CAD for Larceny 92 proof! Thats like $33 US. Are you talking about a specific Larceny?
they are talking about the Larceny Barrel Proofs (released 3 times a year like the ECBPs, not the 92 Larceny.
Can't wait to open up my 2023 birthday bourbon for my birthday in February.
Alec is right about your V-Cutters.
I got a Shenk's and a Bombergers that was a msrp raffle, and they were about 107ish. Not 80.
The price went up this year
Ive gotten to the point to where I see a bottle that I know for a fact is over SRP, I immediately pass on. I will go get a bottle I know is at SRP rather than overpay even if I know it’s phenomenal. The secondary market and a few stores have abused the market for pricing. I appreciate stores that refuse to jack up prices of products(Pappy) and that’s where I would prefer to go.
Agreed with Four Roses SB, love them, but not at $149. If Larceny BP goes to $100, I'm just gonna say no. Good stuff at $59-$69 a bottle, but no consistent enough for me to pay $100.
My first bottle of Midwinter was around $70. Still enjoy it, but it's definitely overpriced.
In Metro NY, aka the land of Museums, my local shop had Joseph Magnus for $1200. Last time I was there. Not sure what’s worse, the store for trying to charge that much, or the person paying that and supporting this practice?
I loved the first lower proof, Old Forester pick, I had about eight years ago. My current cask strength pick, is very disappointing, BuyRite liquors in New Jersey.👎 $89.00. I would rather have the 1910 or 1920.
#Team Dan
I have an OFSBBS and I do not care for it. I fight myself trying to drink it. Way too hot. Been grudgingly nursing it for close to a year and cannot get rid of it quick enough
It's funny now that no one wants the ofbs picks, and everyone wants the 100 proofers
My store has blue label old fo store pick at 131.5 lots of them left for 99.99.
My area Elmer T is average $300 a bottle, yeah it's ruff.
I got old forester for 99
I would happily have distilleries/companies have less fancy bottles/packaging and charge less for spirits. I don’t need the gorgeous Angel’s Envy art. Love it but it’s causing prices to rise in products.
Can Power Bottom be the name of a blend you make?