3 RESCUE VANDAS - How I saved these dying vandas!

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  • Опубликовано: 17 сен 2024
  • I rescued these tortured little vandas from the clutches of an evil garden center...for these vandas the reign of terror is over and they can begin to live a happy, healthy life in my tropical garden. In this video I show you what method I use and some of the signs you must look out for when attempting to save a dying orchid. Here is the link to the Deep Hydration Method I used to save these orchids: • Orchid Rescue-Deep Hyd...
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  • @Plantsfaire
    @Plantsfaire Год назад +2

    I am glad I saw this video - I have baby vandas that i just bought that arrived with short and one to two viable roots- closed and shriveled leaves, I will do as you have done on your 3 rescues, and I hope they will survive. Thank you, a new fan here.

  • @patriciasholarfreund4964
    @patriciasholarfreund4964 7 лет назад +1

    Just discovered your channel. I've decided to take better care of my orchids rather than just allowing them to hang in my palm trees. So......your videos have been extremely helpful for me in this process.

  • @LiliansGardens
    @LiliansGardens 6 лет назад +3

    It was like being on a visit to your garden. I love vising gardens and parks. Oh How I love your orchid rescue.

    • @PictureMaria1
      @PictureMaria1  6 лет назад

      Thanks for joining me on my orchid adventures! I am so happy to have you onboard! :)

  • @Rosemary457
    @Rosemary457 9 лет назад +3

    WOW They looked so pitiful at the beginning, I thought they where past help, But you have dragged them back from the brink, Just in time, And now they are transformed, Well done Maria, Another great save, Keep us updated on there progress, :-)

    • @PictureMaria1
      @PictureMaria1  9 лет назад

      Thank you...and indeed they are fully transformed and restored. ....and shockingly in such a short time! I am so amazed at how well the deep hydration method works, it's almost miraculous and now has become a challenge for me every time I see a dehydrated orchids. I came up with this method in effort to save my Maxillaria and have found that it has been universal thus far in saving a variety of orchids. I am so pleased with the method and really don't know what I'd do without it! I am also glad I can share with others that may be facing this ordeal with their orchids...for indeed it's all about living and "GROWING" together! Hoping you are well dear friend...and sending warm orchids wishes your way! :)

  • @rkatika9
    @rkatika9 9 лет назад +2

    How great! I'm glad you included a 1 week later video to see how much they can change/improve in just 1 week! Can't wait to see them thrive in the future.

    • @PictureMaria1
      @PictureMaria1  9 лет назад

      Kati R. Thank you for watching and sharing in my orchid adventures...and yes in my adventures I like to take you back to the future if you will...and many times I will revisit the past and include in my updates, to take you on a visual journey with me. I am happy that you can appreciate my effort to share the whole story. I appreciate your positive feedback and indeed stay tuned for more! ...oh and pleasure to meet you...orchid greetings to you and hoping all is well! :)

    • @rkatika9
      @rkatika9 9 лет назад +1

      PictureMaria1 Thank you so much for the nicest answer to my comments I've ever got! I think it's so awesome to follow someone's journey with the orchids, I've learned a lot from those type of videos about taking care of the orchids, and what to expect with different methods/treatments. Some people even post failures, which is totally OK, too. Thanks again, and looking forward to your future videos! In the meantime I will watch the older ones back to back :)

    • @PictureMaria1
      @PictureMaria1  9 лет назад

      Kati R. Thanks so much...and you are the best!!! I am soooooooo glad that you could join me on my adventures...I am in such good company!!! HAPPY GROWING DEAR FRIEND! :)

    • @rkatika9
      @rkatika9 9 лет назад +1

      PictureMaria1 Likewise! It's always fun to learn from others' adventure who are willing to share! :)

  • @rmcandlelight
    @rmcandlelight 9 лет назад +1

    So awesome Marie! Now I won't be afraid to pick up a few of the bagged vandas.

    • @PictureMaria1
      @PictureMaria1  9 лет назад

      rmcandlelight There is nothing to fear...but fear itself!!! LOL! ...and if they are in bad condition and have dead roots...make sure you ask a manager for a discounted rate of at least 50%. I never pay full price on my rescue orchids...and if all else fails remember you can always return it with the receipt.

  • @B95-i2k
    @B95-i2k 6 лет назад +1

    I would love to see these vandas today!!! 2 years after they must be spectacular!!!

    • @PictureMaria1
      @PictureMaria1  6 лет назад

      They are have survived although they did not fare too well during the winter. Many of my vandas were damaged and some even passed away. :(

  • @ArtistBrianSheffield
    @ArtistBrianSheffield 6 лет назад +1

    Your funky way makes me giggle a little. Love the outdoor space! 24 hr soak should take care of those. Just for starters. Tropical Storm/Hurricane George is pushing through as i type this! The orchids LOVE it. I hate plastic pots. never, ever, saw a plastic pot growing on a tree. Convenient yes, full of chemical by-product, yes, wood retains water and will not drown an orchid as it drips excess and only retains what it can hold. Then releases moisture more slowly increasing humidity in a two foot radius. Wood pots rok the Casbah.

    • @PictureMaria1
      @PictureMaria1  6 лет назад

      Where are you located. I am hoping that all went well with you and the storm. I wish I could do more mountings with my orchids but I just don't have enough space...many of my branches broke from my tree so that is no longer an option. Hopefully one day soon I can have either a greenhouse or a shade house that will assist me in my mission...the rainy weather here has been such a bummer with my orchids. I am always in fear of rotting issues.

  • @junsorchids300
    @junsorchids300 9 лет назад +3

    Well done!! You are an orchid witch with magical fingers! :)

    • @PictureMaria1
      @PictureMaria1  9 лет назад +2

      Ha ha ha!!!! ...and thank you....but not a witch....I prefer a magical whimsical fairy....LOL!!! Thank you for your kind comment....and I try my best...the power of love and passion...it is incredible thing! HAPPY GROWING!!! :)

    • @PictureMaria1
      @PictureMaria1  7 лет назад +2

      ***** ...indeed!!!! I totally agree...and that's why it's important to keep ourselves open to the passions of our hearts and closed off the the negativity of the world that will take you completely apart and leave you in shambles if you let it...LIVE, LOVE, LAUGH....AND GROW ORCHIDS!!!! ...Live life to its fullest and enjoy the miracles that each day can bring....Happy Growing! :)

  • @jackie26085
    @jackie26085 9 лет назад +2

    Good luck! I'm sure these baby vandas will bounce back under your care. I'm jealous of your weather.

    • @PictureMaria1
      @PictureMaria1  9 лет назад +1

      Thank you for your vote of confidence. The Banda triplets are doing exceedingly well in such a short time...they have bounced back and look as though they never had the life threatening ordeal at all. They actually surprised me in how quickly they were able to recover. I am so glad I came up with this deep dehydration method that really works...I've saved so many orchids this way. This allows me to get orchids at a nice discounted price and nurse it back to health....a good learning experience and a money saving technique. I am hoping all is well with you and happy growing! :)

  • @miche7032
    @miche7032 9 лет назад

    Thanks , now I have more courage to venture & buy sickly looking vanda orchids 😊

    • @PictureMaria1
      @PictureMaria1  9 лет назад

      Vandas are one type that has a very quick recovery process...they can bounce back in no time...just as long as you can give them some tender loving care...they will reward you back greatly...this is a great way to get them at a good discounted price...and experience the miraculous strength these little critters have...they really are quite amazing plants....HAPPY GROWING! ...and please keep me posted if you decide to take on a rescue mission! :)

  • @lummeimei6425
    @lummeimei6425 3 года назад +2

    I love your channel .Thank you for sharing.

    • @PictureMaria1
      @PictureMaria1  3 года назад

      Thanks so much for watching and joining me on my plant growing adventures! I am wishing you the absolute best yours! HAPPY GROWING!

  • @miche7032
    @miche7032 9 лет назад +1

    Hey an emergency clinic , that's a good idea ! LOL . You know what I only nurse my rescued orchids by putting them in special orchid mix sold at the big box stores & Spanish moss that I take from the trees in my area and of course plenty of TLC .

  • @ivetteblanco-torres980
    @ivetteblanco-torres980 7 лет назад

    Wow I'm a new orchid lover and I have a small vanda which only have three roots that are flimsy and the leaves I've noticed are not really looking luscious like yours so I'm trying your deep hydration system thank you for all your educational info I think you're amazing and I love your orchids your passion for what you do is appreciated. Humbly a friend oxox blessings

  • @patriciaedwards8177
    @patriciaedwards8177 4 года назад

    Those cuties had no choice but to get well fr the healing hands of the # orchid doc..yeahhh.😄

  • @miche7032
    @miche7032 9 лет назад +1

    That's a thought ! 😊

  • @Josh-cy6xo
    @Josh-cy6xo 9 лет назад

    You're so lucky that your garden center even has orchids other than phals. I'm lucky to find a 3 inch cattleya. Nothing blooming. Hope it all goes well. Orchids have the strongest will to live out of all the plants I own. My plumeria seem to give up every once in a while and rot.

    • @PictureMaria1
      @PictureMaria1  9 лет назад

      Yea...I have been told that...I believe because we have such great weather for orchids...they are easier to grow in our climate therefore they are more popular in our area...I guess it is a matter of supply and demand...most people would not buy plants that would not do well in their weather conditions so garden centers or any store for that matter would not try and sell something that most would not buy into...it would be a big loss for the company....it is unfortunate though for others though that would be willing to take that chance and go the extra mile to grow these plants... :( ...but fortunate in today's society we have everything at our finger tips and can practically get a hold of everything we want via online or other means of ordering. :)

    • @Josh-cy6xo
      @Josh-cy6xo 9 лет назад

      True but ordering online is a lot more expensive rather buying in a store. I hate spending money on orchids that might not survive and have no refunds. That's why I prefer ordinary garden centers because of their cheap prices and refunds. PictureMaria1

    • @PictureMaria1
      @PictureMaria1  9 лет назад

      Joshuas Aquariums yea your right....and indeed I agree. Is there a Trader Joe's in your area...from what I've seen they have some really good prices and awesome variety. They just built one an hour and a half from where I live...I am making it a point to visit in the near future. Are there any orchids shows or nurseries in your are? There are actually some that travel a bit also to get their orchids...so yea sometimes it just calls for getting creative and being open ...but I do agree with you it does suck. :(

  • @bharwart13
    @bharwart13 5 лет назад +1

    I live in DC and am not able to have my orchid outside due to it being winter. So how would I reintroduce it back to regular temps after soaking? Also, the Vanda came in a ceramic pot, should I put it in something else?

  • @forestsprite5914
    @forestsprite5914 2 года назад

    There r also still good toots on each of those

  • @frankmabanta5313
    @frankmabanta5313 8 лет назад +1

    it's is so amazing method thank you

    • @PictureMaria1
      @PictureMaria1  8 лет назад

      +Frank Mabanta Thank you...and it works extremely well...this is what I have done to save many dehydrated and weak orchids...I am so happy to discover this method that really works! Thank you for watching! :)

    • @frankmabanta5313
      @frankmabanta5313 8 лет назад +1

      Yes, and your other video is amazing, i watch some video how to take care different varities of orchids but in your channel WOW i also learn how to "propogate" hopefuly i can make it right

    • @PictureMaria1
      @PictureMaria1  8 лет назад

      +Frank Mabanta Thank you so much...I really appreciate that...I know that some of my videos can be a bit long...but I do try and add a lot of visuals and cram it with as much information as possible...I always have the intention of keeping it down to 5-10 minutes...but as you can see...in most cases it doesn't work. LOL! I am thrilled you have decided to join me on My Wild Orchid Adventures...please also join me on my Facebook Adventures as well.... facebook.com/MyOrchidAdventures . It is a pleasure to meet you and I am wishing success and prosperity on your wonderful orchid adventures! HAPPY GROWING! :)

  • @miche7032
    @miche7032 9 лет назад

    I have actually rescued an oncidium , several phaleonopsis orchids and dendrobiums but I was afraid of vandas . I do have a medium size one and two ascocendas . I see dried out ones at the big box stores all the time but didn't think they were worth spending my time and money on them . By the way , I took your advice on asking to have the price of an orchid reduced and it worked . I just purchased my first brassavola. I wanted a brassavola nodosa , they only had the brassavola hybrid . We shall see how things work for me . Thanks for responding & koodoes for your advice .

    • @PictureMaria1
      @PictureMaria1  9 лет назад

      ....with all of our rescues we should start an orchid emergency clinic! LOL! What technique do you use to save your orchids? ....and yea I never pay full price for an orchid that is damaged or unhealthy....I always go to customer service and ask for a manager, then explain how unsatisfied I am with the plant and ask what is the best price they can give me...if they can give me 50% or lower than we have a deal...I purchased these 3 rescue vandas for the price of one...about $4 a piece...with the proper treatment, they should bloom for me next season...congratulations on your Brassavola...is it the yellow bird hybrid? I have that one. Good luck and best wishes for your newly acquired rescue orchids...keep me posted on its progress... HAPPY GROWING AND RESCUING!

  • @hadotonini1189
    @hadotonini1189 3 года назад

    Hi. 30mins of soaking, 3 times a day. Would that means early morning, afternoon and late afternoon?

  • @mebelle473
    @mebelle473 4 года назад

    I love 💕 your garden!! May I ask what area you live because I live in NJ & put 3 Orchids outside to get some summer humidity & away from air conditioner & not in direct sun that’s what I was told to do ..but no success they perished so upset!! My mother in law lives in Florida & she has them all hanging in the tree like you..I don’t get it! They grow outside in rain forest right?? Idk lol

  • @lostdoll0
    @lostdoll0 7 месяцев назад

    So I just frosted like 14 really old and gorgeous vandals however she’s a dry mama how long should I soak their roots for?? And how many times

  • @andreasoilander5407
    @andreasoilander5407 9 лет назад +1

    I loved this video! They look so good after you treated them! Do you have the link to the deep dehydration video you mentioned? It sounds interesting.

    • @PictureMaria1
      @PictureMaria1  9 лет назад +1

      Andrea Soilander Thank you! :) ...and yea they bounced back rather quickly...and I haven't met a dehydrated orchid yet that this method hasn't worked on. I came up with this method about 4 months for my Maxillaria Tenufolia...since then I've been using it with any orchid in need of a hydration fix. LOL! A great way to get orchids at a discounted price and bring them back to health. Here is the link to the video... ruclips.net/video/SzP8NClXOyg/видео.html

    • @andreasoilander5407
      @andreasoilander5407 9 лет назад +1

      PictureMaria1 Thank you! It was very interesting to see this! I will remember this if I ever have to nurse a desiccated orchid back to health. :)

  • @JasperPaulBenedict
    @JasperPaulBenedict 5 лет назад

    Hi Maria, I am your subscriber from the Philippines (a tropical country). What do you recommend to encourage the rooting of vandas? If fertilizers are needed, can you recommend non-commercial ones, they may not be available in my area.

  • @yvonnechamberlain937
    @yvonnechamberlain937 7 лет назад

    I have a rootless vanda, the roots rotted because I soaked for too long I think. I cut the stem back to live tissue and sealed it with cinnamon. Then I sprayed the whole plant with hydrogen peroxide and bagged it upside down in a transparent drawstring bag, suspended in the shady side of my conservatory. Do you think I'm doing the right thing and is it likely to survive?

  • @allangalleon765
    @allangalleon765 3 года назад

    What is your solution for that dehydrated vanda? I did not understand.

  • @checkplease7735
    @checkplease7735 4 года назад +2

    Hey Maria are these three still in your collection alive dead sold ?

  • @franciscadebemcomanatureza3549
    @franciscadebemcomanatureza3549 8 лет назад

    oi sou do Brasil e gostaria de umas muda de Vanda parabéns suas Orquidia são linda

    • @PictureMaria1
      @PictureMaria1  8 лет назад

      I am so sorry...I couldn't understand your message... :(

    • @michelleespino9814
      @michelleespino9814 5 лет назад

      I think she is saying that she is from Brazil and she would like to have a pair of vandas congratulations on your orchids see ya later pretty girl

  • @erlindaasgali3972
    @erlindaasgali3972 Год назад

    Do we have to soak the dying vanda in water?4hoq many hours?

  • @ivygeerman3982
    @ivygeerman3982 9 лет назад +2

    Job Well done..... What kind of vitamine you use.... I use the 20/20/20

    • @PictureMaria1
      @PictureMaria1  9 лет назад +1

      I didn't use a fertilizer for these guys...I always wait until they are fully recovered before I do to ensure they are strong enough to handle it...and that won't be until about a month from the time my treatment starts.

  • @drseemabhandari2698
    @drseemabhandari2698 4 года назад

    Dear can we spray the leaves as well for wanda .do u think.they w rot like the other orchids..thanks fir ur vdos

  • @karenhaygood2644
    @karenhaygood2644 4 года назад

    Maria, help my rescue vandas two roots are or look like they are dying. The part closed to stem are turning brown but bottom part is still green I'm afraid to cut them what should I do

  • @hadotonini1189
    @hadotonini1189 3 года назад

    Is there potential for over watering or root rot?

  • @nubiansoaps
    @nubiansoaps 4 года назад

    I appreciate your knowledge and experience. But I'd enjoy it more if you'd talk about what your doing while you're doing it.

    • @PictureMaria1
      @PictureMaria1  4 года назад

      Thank you and every youtuber has their own style and way of doing things. you just have to find the perfect youtuber that suits your needs.

  • @annafay5262
    @annafay5262 7 лет назад

    I saw a Vanda yesterday I really wanted to buy but the neck or base of it was black and some of the roots right at the base were black. Would this be fungus and will it likely die? I didn't buy it. I am still looking for a Vanda. None locally, where to buy?

  • @rosauragonzalez4720
    @rosauragonzalez4720 8 лет назад +1

    para ver las orquideascarlellas

  • @zuuwon2952
    @zuuwon2952 7 лет назад

    I finally got a vanda but it has no roots but a live crown and a few leaves what should I do????

  • @sanakhansalam3124
    @sanakhansalam3124 6 лет назад +1

    Hi . I'm a beginner and I want to know how I can plant a vanda

    • @PictureMaria1
      @PictureMaria1  6 лет назад

      Majority of people grow vandas barerooted in a mesh or wooden slat basket. But you will need to ensure that you can water frequently preferably once a day to keep in tip top condition. If you are growing indoors some opt to grow them potted and with some media that can retain water for longer amounts of time. Another option would be to mount a vanda onto a tree or other wood piece. If growing outdoors ensure that you have the conditions for vandas to thrive well. I have many vanda videos so please watch for more tips and advice. I hope this helps. HAPPY GROWING and wishing you the best in your orchid adventures!

  • @addictedtoelf
    @addictedtoelf 9 лет назад

    Are these Vandas or Vanda Ascocendas? I got 3 Vanda Ascocendas in similar condition from my big box stores garden center and have done something similar to bring them back but will have to start doing it more because their leaves are not entirely open yet.

    • @PictureMaria1
      @PictureMaria1  8 лет назад

      Yes one is an asconcenda which require basically the same care tips as a vanda...the main difference is that the asconcendas usually have smaller blossoms and is considered to be miniature in comparison to some of your much larger vandas. It took them a while to get their leaves to open back up...a few of the leaves never did fully open up and were so damaged that they seemed to have been scarred from the harsh neglect that They had received...the good news is that as the vandas grow more leaves from the top...the bottom leaves will eventually fall away and they will be replaced by the much healthier new leaves...so in time it their appearance will be so much healthier will not even show any signs of what occurred to them in the past....it may also be beneficial to them if you continue to do the deep soaking treatment and even keep them in a semi water culture soaking them for 30 minutes to an hour daily. I am hoping much success for your orchid rescued and please keep me posted. HAPPY GROWING! :)

    • @addictedtoelf
      @addictedtoelf 8 лет назад

      Thank you so much for responding! I am continuing with the vandas and am hopeful, thanks to your video.

    • @PictureMaria1
      @PictureMaria1  8 лет назад

      YAAAAAAAAY!!! I with your tender loving care...I am sure they will bounce back!!! :)

  • @chumleyk
    @chumleyk 5 лет назад +1

    rehydration method.

  • @khaleelyoousuf4181
    @khaleelyoousuf4181 3 года назад

    During hydration should i put in shade or in bright light

    • @PictureMaria1
      @PictureMaria1  3 года назад

      I would put it in a shadier location.

  • @humairasadari8146
    @humairasadari8146 9 лет назад

    Hi how are u. I hve problem with my vanda orchid. All the roots already rotten except 10 green leaves. Singapore climate is hot and in Nov and Dec rainy season. pls advice me what to do with my orchid.

    • @PictureMaria1
      @PictureMaria1  9 лет назад +1

      +Humaira Sadari ...so sorry to hear about your vanda...if you can please post some pictures of it on my Facebook page so that I can see it... facebook.com/MyOrchidAdventures ...first I would suggest that you spray it down with peroxide to kill off any bacteria or germs...make sure to cut off the dead roots or any other decayed areas...if there are any open wounds anywhere dab it with some cinnamon powder to dry it out and prevent any infection from spreading...examine your plant closely and make sure that it is not infested with any insects...if you have lysterine mouthwash (the gold colored one) I would spray it down with lysterine just incase there are some insects making a meal out of it...and being that it is sickly right now, I would move it from your current place and move it where it gets a little less heat/light and since it doesn't have any roots I would spray it down as often as you can and at least once daily to encourage more root growth...If this does not work well for you and you notice the same thing or worse in about 1 or 2 weeks...I would try the sphag and bag method for it...I wish you the best and please keep me posted...good luck!

    • @rosabellaheeralal2624
      @rosabellaheeralal2624 7 лет назад

      style on can

  • @hildarivera4757
    @hildarivera4757 7 лет назад

    Hi you said that they will survive and I know they will I have one with only one root. Would mine survive?

    • @PictureMaria1
      @PictureMaria1  7 лет назад

      Hilda Rivera ...if it is just a matter of the plant growing...yes I believe in time it will produce more root, be sure to water often and also fertilize to encourage healthy growth ...but if it is dealing also with an infection, sickness or insect infestation then it will have a harder time of bouncing back or recovering without first beung treated...sometimes orchids suffer from things we cannot see with the eye...and that's the hard part is trying to identify what may be going on with the orchid. I wish you the best of luck with a successful outcome.

  • @annafay5262
    @annafay5262 7 лет назад

    Where can you purchase hangers for the Vanda pots?

    • @PictureMaria1
      @PictureMaria1  7 лет назад

      Anna Tomacari You should be able to purchase them at any garden center such as Lowe's or Home Depot's. You can also order online as well on ebay or other online sites.

    • @annafay5262
      @annafay5262 7 лет назад

      Great thank you!

  • @fritzjerald190
    @fritzjerald190 7 лет назад +1

    how this vanda orchids today ???

    • @PictureMaria1
      @PictureMaria1  7 лет назад

      justin bieber They are fine...suffered a little from winter but are still healthy and growing right along...no blooms yet though... :(

    • @fritzjerald190
      @fritzjerald190 7 лет назад

      maria .... dou you have a viddeo regarding on taking care of rootless vanda ??

  • @skippyroo2278
    @skippyroo2278 7 лет назад

    I can not find any info as to why my 2 vandas have a white looking power on there leaves
    thank you peter

    • @PictureMaria1
      @PictureMaria1  7 лет назад

      It is hard to identify anything without seeing it. I wondering if perhaps it is an insect infestation such as medley bugs, white flies...etc... or maybe it could be mildew, mold or fungus. Pull up those description on youtube and see if you can identify somethings those videos that resemble what you have then so you cab find the best method to treat it... Good luck and if you find out what it is...let me know. I am also curious to know what it is.

  • @loretagasmena2505
    @loretagasmena2505 8 лет назад

    my vanda have a bug,how can i cure it?

    • @PictureMaria1
      @PictureMaria1  8 лет назад

      +Loreta Gasmeña The main important thing to do is to isolate from your other orchids incase it is contagious. I would definitely sanitize the entire plant with peroxide or listerine...If it is in any time of media, I would take it completely out and and grow it without media until you know that the coast is clear. If you notice the infection is spreading no matter what you do...it may be time to let it go. :(

  • @rodrigohuerta1821
    @rodrigohuerta1821 9 лет назад

    PictureMaria1 do you have a facebook we can contact you on. the one on your youtube does not work

    • @PictureMaria1
      @PictureMaria1  9 лет назад

      Thanks for informing me....I will create a Facebook where my orchids family can contact me...thanks! :)

    • @rodrigohuerta1821
      @rodrigohuerta1821 9 лет назад +1

      thanks. Its that i own simplyorchids.webs.com and i would love to do an interview and feature you on the site!

    • @PictureMaria1
      @PictureMaria1  9 лет назад

      ***** That sounds absolutely awesome!!! ... and I promise I'll be on my best behavior! LOL!!! :)