I am with this guy. I was so excited about putting these in... I did a Steeda trans insert and a Steeda Shifter Body mount.. It is so loud inside my car now , that I hate it... I am going to pop out the trans insert tomorrow and see if that calms things down.. If it doesn't I am going to take the rubber from the stock bracket and put it in with the Steeda bracket and hope for the best.... I was going to get an aluminum one piece but now I am going to wait and save for the carbon fiber one. Thanks for the truth!!! There are a lot of people out there saying how smoother and great these parts feel when it's a total lie.. They make my car shake violently at 3000 RPM WTF is that about???
Another great example of what people don't tell you. When bought my aluminum shaft, I had to get it balanced because it would shake your senses to death. When they put it on the machine to balance it, I was so freaking off, I couldn't believe it.
@@DocsBoost thanks excuse the horrible grammar lol...rushing!! But thanks and I own a new challenger hoping this makes adds a bit more performance to her as well
This was a first mod to upgrade to, along with a safety loop. Which I hope was done but doesn’t look like it or mentioned. Safety is key when upgrading parts. Best part was the car moving faster and faster RPM with carbon fiber driveshaft. My Most exciting upgrade was a trinity blower. You should consider it as well as cooling upgrades.
@@KapcomRacing on aluminum i would definitely consider having it. Do you have the carbone driveshaft? Did you adjust pinion angle? if yes , is it possible on a stock car that is lowered on eibach pro springs? Can't find any info on internet about adjusting pinion angle. Haven't really felt any vibration on my 2012 gt500 with carbon fiber driveshaft. Only when i installed BMR LCA control arm with relocation bracket. Whole car and mirrors did shake like crazy at 70 mph and up. Had to Install back stock LCA control arms.
@@canson1988 that’s a lot of vibration. I have carbon fiber. I don’t have an install video but just an update video that it is on. I’m on stock suspension right now but looking to upgrade some of it and very soon. If you did LCA did you do the UCA and adjustable Pan hard bar? Might need the wheels rebalanced and suspension tightened.
@@KapcomRacing i didn't do the UCA , but have bmr adjustable panhardbar which is centered. I did rebalance my wheels and it didn't help with the vibration. Not sure if all bolts were tighten actually. Changed back to my OEM LCA control arms and all vibration was gone. In future i will try install only the BMR LCA , and not the relocation bracket.
Make sure you check out the drive angle video because you may have to deal with some changes there. Done right is an amazing difference. Please let me know.
See I knew I was going to have to save and wait to get the carbon fiber shaft.. I hate NVH. There's nothing worse than listening to AM or CJ Pony and buying a part putting it in and then hating the fuc out of it! Because of all the crazy vibration and noise that comes with it!!! Plus After spending 100's to 1000's on their parts...
You really have a valid point that goes even beyond what you said. Places try to sell you all kinds of parts by making it sound like you just have to have it. Suspension parts especially. Things to adjust, things to relocate, and on and on goes the list. The real need goes deep into the overall change you are planning to make and why. The why of it all is so freaking important. If you add just one thing it can throw so many other things out of wack it's not funny.
That's a question I have never seen come up before and honestly I have never thought about it. I have used it for quite some time on the track and off (of course) without issues. The CF shaft still looks pristine. I would say the exhaust heat is not an issue. Thanks for asking . Oh, by the way, when I say track, I mean road racing not just drag racing. So torture is key and heat has not been a factor. Thanks again for asking.
I do not get any unwanted reactions at high RPM. I dialed in the drive angles before installing. If you want more info on how to do that, check out my video on drive angles: How to do drive angles 1 piece & 2 piece shafts -- ruclips.net/video/EkBvEvifxQM/видео.html
Well, two things come to mind. First, the car was lowered and the drive angles are off a bit. See my video on drive angles (ruclips.net/video/EkBvEvifxQM/видео.html). The second thing that comes to mind is balance. Shafts need balancing just like tires and wheels or anything that rotates at high speeds. Check this video out - ruclips.net/video/7hyLa9fvGDc/видео.html. The balance is more unlikely, but it can happen. Both are easy fixes. I hope you find this helpful.
Hey doc, I'm curious, you didn't mention what those books should be torqued to when re installing the new drive shaft? I'd hate for those to come loose and work their way out.
How long did that take to install. It looked simple enough. I don't have an extra car lying around so I have to be conscious of whether or not I will have enough time to complete a job since I would generally be working alone. I want to get a carbon fiber shaft for my 23. Just need to know any issues I might run into. Will also upgrade the exhaust with a cat back while I'm under there so I don't have to go back underneath the car again for something different.
It took about an hour and 45 minutes, which includes getting the car up on stands and then back down again. Just a tip. When the rear axle is hanging in full rebound when using jack stands other than on the axle, one of the exhaust pipes will have to come off to get the one-piece shaft in place. But if you use the stands on the axle, the shaft should go in without removing one exhaust pipe. I know it sounds backwards but its true. Good luck.
@@DocsBoost If it's that straight forward I can handle that. I'm changing the exhaust anyway at the same time I do the drive shaft. Thanks for responding.
@@DocsBoost smooth? I have a Magnum XL trans swap into my Boss 302, which is not an uncommon swap, and both the Driveshaft shop and QA1 told me they don't make a shaft for a Coyote w/ a Magnum trans in an S197. It would have to be custom ordered, and gave me a form to fill out that would require removing my shaft and taking apart to measure the u-joints. P.I.A. Hard to believe.
That's too bad. I run hard and doing it for years now without issue. I had to dial in my drive angle because of other mods and even had to have the balance checked. I have no vibration issues or fear of it shredding. I will let everyone know if it does.
I love watching these! Feels like I’m working on my Stang w an uncle of mine😎
Thank you. That's makes it all worth the time and effort to share.
I am with this guy. I was so excited about putting these in...
I did a Steeda trans insert and a Steeda Shifter Body mount.. It is so loud inside my car now , that I hate it... I am going to pop out the trans insert tomorrow and see if that calms things down.. If it doesn't I am going to take the rubber from the stock bracket and put it in with the Steeda bracket and hope for the best.... I was going to get an aluminum one piece but now I am going to wait and save for the carbon fiber one. Thanks for the truth!!!
There are a lot of people out there saying how smoother and great these parts feel when it's a total lie.. They make my car shake violently at 3000 RPM WTF is that about???
Another great example of what people don't tell you. When bought my aluminum shaft, I had to get it balanced because it would shake your senses to death. When they put it on the machine to balance it, I was so freaking off, I couldn't believe it.
Good one Doc!
Thank you and that's for taking the time to comment.
Great info!! Subbed!!
Time to upgrade my drive shaft!
Sweet. Let me know how it works out for you.
Love the vid and glad you explained what each one is about! Going carbon
You won't regret it.
@@DocsBoost thanks excuse the horrible grammar lol...rushing!! But thanks and I own a new challenger hoping this makes adds a bit more performance to her as well
Could you do a video on those awesome wheel cradles? Thanks!!
This was a first mod to upgrade to, along with a safety loop. Which I hope was done but doesn’t look like it or mentioned.
Safety is key when upgrading parts.
Best part was the car moving faster and faster RPM with carbon fiber driveshaft.
My Most exciting upgrade was a trinity blower. You should consider it as well as cooling upgrades.
with carbon fiber driveshaft you dont need safety loop , it will shatter in small pieces if it gets damaged.
@@canson1988 well I still did a safety loop, because safety.
He didn’t have a safety loop on with his aluminum driveshaft.
@@KapcomRacing on aluminum i would definitely consider having it. Do you have the carbone driveshaft? Did you adjust pinion angle? if yes , is it possible on a stock car that is lowered on eibach pro springs?
Can't find any info on internet about adjusting pinion angle.
Haven't really felt any vibration on my 2012 gt500 with carbon fiber driveshaft. Only when i installed BMR LCA control arm with relocation bracket. Whole car and mirrors did shake like crazy at 70 mph and up. Had to Install back stock LCA control arms.
@@canson1988 that’s a lot of vibration.
I have carbon fiber. I don’t have an install video but just an update video that it is on. I’m on stock suspension right now but looking to upgrade some of it and very soon. If you did LCA did you do the UCA and adjustable Pan hard bar? Might need the wheels rebalanced and suspension tightened.
@@KapcomRacing i didn't do the UCA , but have bmr adjustable panhardbar which is centered. I did rebalance my wheels and it didn't help with the vibration. Not sure if all bolts were tighten actually.
Changed back to my OEM LCA control arms and all vibration was gone.
In future i will try install only the BMR LCA , and not the relocation bracket.
I am going to get me a aluminum drive shaft for my 14 mustang GT in a few weeks
Make sure you check out the drive angle video because you may have to deal with some changes there. Done right is an amazing difference. Please let me know.
See I knew I was going to have to save and wait to get the carbon fiber shaft.. I hate NVH. There's nothing worse than listening to AM or CJ Pony and buying a part putting it in and then hating the fuc out of it! Because of all the crazy vibration and noise that comes with it!!! Plus After spending 100's to 1000's on their parts...
You really have a valid point that goes even beyond what you said. Places try to sell you all kinds of parts by making it sound like you just have to have it. Suspension parts especially. Things to adjust, things to relocate, and on and on goes the list. The real need goes deep into the overall change you are planning to make and why. The why of it all is so freaking important. If you add just one thing it can throw so many other things out of wack it's not funny.
Hey Doc, what about heat from the exhaust on the CF shaft? What's your thoughts on that? Thanks
That's a question I have never seen come up before and honestly I have never thought about it. I have used it for quite some time on the track and off (of course) without issues. The CF shaft still looks pristine. I would say the exhaust heat is not an issue. Thanks for asking . Oh, by the way, when I say track, I mean road racing not just drag racing. So torture is key and heat has not been a factor. Thanks again for asking.
Hey doc! Nice hair! What's the secret to not losing your hair? Could you please share it with us?
LOL Not sure how that happened.
Do you have vibrations at high rpm? Mine does nothing super crazy but I can definitely feel and hear it
I do not get any unwanted reactions at high RPM. I dialed in the drive angles before installing. If you want more info on how to do that, check out my video on drive angles: How to do drive angles 1 piece & 2 piece shafts -- ruclips.net/video/EkBvEvifxQM/видео.html
I installed carbon fiber drive shaft and i have this mild vibration after installation. Any idea what made the vibration? Thanks in advance…
Well, two things come to mind. First, the car was lowered and the drive angles are off a bit. See my video on drive angles (ruclips.net/video/EkBvEvifxQM/видео.html). The second thing that comes to mind is balance. Shafts need balancing just like tires and wheels or anything that rotates at high speeds. Check this video out - ruclips.net/video/7hyLa9fvGDc/видео.html. The balance is more unlikely, but it can happen. Both are easy fixes. I hope you find this helpful.
Hey doc, I'm curious, you didn't mention what those books should be torqued to when re installing the new drive shaft? I'd hate for those to come loose and work their way out.
Good question. Basically, for the size get them as tight as possible...but the spec is 75 ft.lbs.
@@DocsBoost yeah, that was supposed to be bolts, not books. Lol. Maybe I should proof read better. Anyway, thank you for that.
No worries. It wasn't hard to figure out what you meant and you are welcome.
How long did that take to install. It looked simple enough. I don't have an extra car lying around so I have to be conscious of whether or not I will have enough time to complete a job since I would generally be working alone. I want to get a carbon fiber shaft for my 23. Just need to know any issues I might run into. Will also upgrade the exhaust with a cat back while I'm under there so I don't have to go back underneath the car again for something different.
It took about an hour and 45 minutes, which includes getting the car up on stands and then back down again. Just a tip. When the rear axle is hanging in full rebound when using jack stands other than on the axle, one of the exhaust pipes will have to come off to get the one-piece shaft in place. But if you use the stands on the axle, the shaft should go in without removing one exhaust pipe. I know it sounds backwards but its true. Good luck.
@@DocsBoost If it's that straight forward I can handle that. I'm changing the exhaust anyway at the same time I do the drive shaft. Thanks for responding.
You are very welcome.
good luck trying to order a cf driveshaft if you have a magnum xl trans swap.
tranny swaps can definitely cause smooth ordering of a shaft for sure.
@@DocsBoost smooth? I have a Magnum XL trans swap into my Boss 302, which is not an uncommon swap, and both the Driveshaft shop and QA1 told me they don't make a shaft for a Coyote w/ a Magnum trans in an S197. It would have to be custom ordered, and gave me a form to fill out that would require removing my shaft and taking apart to measure the u-joints. P.I.A. Hard to believe.
That's crazy.
Hi doc, do you still have driveshaft for sale east valley mustangs here
Are you looking for Stock? Aluminum?
@@DocsBoost aluminum preferred
The aluminum one was sold a while ago. I have the stock shaft if you want that one.
Thanks I'm just going to buy a 1 piece
excellent choice
I would rather over build than under build
I got the shaft in divorce court today, but it wasn't carbon fibre.
I know the feeling!!
Garbage product😮 I'm seeing so many videos of those things snapping 😮
That's too bad. I run hard and doing it for years now without issue. I had to dial in my drive angle because of other mods and even had to have the balance checked. I have no vibration issues or fear of it shredding. I will let everyone know if it does.