Building Steve Morris Engines Carbon Fiber Driveshaft
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- Опубликовано: 18 апр 2023
- Building custom 1480 series carbon fiber driveshaft for Steve Morris' wagon!
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As someone who has worked in aviation carbonfibre I strongly recommend you wear breathing equipt when cutting carbon fibre materials. Very interesting to see how driveshafts are manufactured all the same, that stuff is new to me.
This is a simple detail that DOES make a big difference. Treat CF like a 'more-dangerous' fiberglass.
Beat me to it, was gonna make the same comment.
ANY dust inhaled over a period of time is no good for your health.
yup, absolutely bad news in your eye's, and lungs!
My jaw dropped when he start cutting without a mask!😱
You can count on 2 things. 1 Steve only buys the best stuff. 2 he is as honest as you can be so he'll be a good ambassador for you guys. And throw a buck in the swear jar for me, this was fu*#ing interesting. We all need a Melissa in the shop too😉
I am a Steve Morris channel subscriber, and he is not only the BEST at what he does, but he also is one of the most honest, down to earth people I have ever known. You can bet he will plug your business, and do it proudly. I loved this video. I always wondered how a CF shaft was built.
Thanks for the show and tell...kind of surprised you didn't talk about phasing the shaft...maybe that is a function of the press.
Glad Steve and you all found each other....
Steve only goes with premium suppliers. After seeing your attention to detail and scientific approach used to create world class driveshafts, I predict a huge uptick in sales. Kudos.
Suggestion, most wireless lav mics can be configured for either stereo split channel or stereo mixed. The split channel is usually for post-mixing the audio during editing so you have 2 clean channels. But if you don't mix them together it is a little distracting because one person is coming out of one speaker and one person coming out of the other speaker.
Glad I read this comment, I was watching with one earbud in and wondering how they posted with such terrible audio. Turns out I was just missing half of it.
Great work guys! The drag racing fraternity needs people like you, pushing the envelope of what’s possible!
But PLEEASE!! Mel! Take care of those lungs, babe! You REEEALLY don’t want emphysema! I know, I know. Other people have said it already. I just wanted to mention Mel’s lungs! 😂
I worry about Shane’s lungs too. But not so much 😂
Acetone vapour isn’t exactly good for you either.
Keep up the great work, guys. And here’s to Steve’s 1.0s 60’
so just to be clear: the shaft length is absolutely critical, both the male and female parts have to be carefully prepared before they join and once mated you fill the void in between them with a creamy liquid... and if done properly, the two pieces become one until death of the part. nice video!
Love seeing the real deal work! Go Steve Morris getting the best
Thanks for sharing this. This was first time to see the process. Very interesting. It's pretty amazing that adhesives can hold that much force.
Thank you for the video, it was enjoyable learning about carbon fiber driveshaft assembly.
You guys should consider wearing a mask when cutting carbon fiber and the dust is blowing around everywhere. Inhaling that dust mite cause you problems down the road.
Keep up the good work!
I was astonished when I saw that ! This is not the dark ages of the 20th century when we didn’t know any better. Protect your future wear PPE. Far too many mechanics die of cancer.
That stuff stays in your lungs and never comes out
@@emccolly I was talking to a surgeon about my chest xray which mentioned something like "mineralization " at the bottom of the lungs. I said I used to race motocross 40 years ago and he said yep, thats it.
Might cause problems? Definitely will cause problems M
You might look at using isopropyl alcohol for the final clean, acetone leaves a very tiny residue. Background, I did wet layup repairs on a composite body jet for a decade, and we preferred iso over anything else because of its drying properties so we didn't have to do a two wipe (one wet, one dry) cleaning process before doing the repair.
Doesn't the flashing process take care of any leftover residue? Honest question.
@@coreyandkristi No.
In racing we use isopropyl alcohol to clean our carbon brake discs for the same reason. It's pretty much the only cleaning solvent that does not leave a residue and it does not affect CF:
I can’t wrap my mind around how a press fit and “glue” holds up to that rotational force. That’s amazing.
Some adhesives are stronger than if you welded it together, it is a massive surface area being bonded.
I can't say I do either, but notice how much material they have sticking out that is pressed into the carbon fiber tube. With the attention to detail and the scuffing that they do which helps increase surface area for the glue which is critical to the glue making a good bond, but the large amount of material also allows the glue a greater contact patch with the carbon fiber tube. All of those factors together help result in making something so darn strong. I'm curious to know what glue they use, from the looks of it, it is some industrial grade 3m glue of some kind.
Consider some aircraft skin is glued on now. No rivets. I separated some body panels on Corvettes and had to be careful not to tear the underlying sheet metal the panel was glued to.
Generally, just about anything glued properly with the right adhesive will be as strong as the material itself.
It probably doesn't, that's how.
Crazy how strong a press fit with some glue can be. Holy crap!
I know right?
I bought and installed a CF driveshaft in an AWD vehicle I had modified quite a bit.....it made quite a dramatic difference. I haddnt expected it to be that much. Worth the $$$ spent!!
I'm a Steve Morris follower but I just want to say I think its very awesome to see a woman doing something that we usually see a man doing it awesome Mel keep up the Great Work Love It!!!!!!!!!
Sexism will cease to exist when people stop bringing up sex
Mel's attention to detail is incredible
Thanks for sharing this. But please please one suggestion. PPE. Dry cutting/ sanding carbon fibre with no masks, respirators etc is just crazy. Keep doing this and you won't be around for very long
Doesn't look like it's their first time cutting it with zero protection on either. Just a matter of time before one of them becomes seriously ill or diagnosed with cancer.
If never ceases to amaze me that a super light tube with such a (relatively) thin wall can stand up to the abuse of 5000 HP Pro Mod launches. Truly amazing material. And if/when it does fail it just disintegrates into dust and small pieces avoiding injury to the driver or damage to the car.
Glad u guys are helping steve. Great work
Very interesting. Steve Morris is the best!
I wish we had built up double cardan driveshafts like yours here in England for our 4x4 Land Rovers. Yours are bad ass!!!
Cheers from an American in England! 🇺🇸🏴
I saw someone else already said it but I'd still like to reiterate, I think y'all should probably be wearing masks when cutting the carbon fiber. I've never dealt with it before and you guys have so if I'm wrong I'm wrong, but I have heard that dust is really really bad for your insides, I have messed with fiberglass before and the same applies. I wear at least a p100 filtered respirator when dealing with any fine particulates. Other than that thanks for the very cool video!
Also. The saw should be on a down draft bench with a hepa filter.
Coming out of aerospace, the factory where I worked in Texas wouldn’t allow us to modify any carbon parts (cutting/grinding) without a downdraft booth and full PPE.
Your product is such high tier I’d hate to see you guys get sick.
Mel is stunning! Wow! She is super knowledgeable.
good video, thanks for helping steve go faster and safer!
So glad I ran across this. I follow SM, and he is a class act. This is a really interesting video, thanks for putting it up. He demands the best from his self, stands to reason he expects the same from others around him. Keep up the good work. Go Florida!
They build killer drive shafts, they use all great parts I know them great people great COMPANY!!!!!!!
As someone who owns a 1994 Buick Roadmaster wagon, I can assure you that Steve drives a 1993 Chevrolet Caprice Wagon.
You were right the first time.😁👍
I follow Steve and saw his video last night on your driveshaft. This is very cool to see it made, getting that power to where the rubber meets the road. AWESOME!!! Thanks for posting.
Awesome info, and cool parts. Really should consider wearing a respirator when cutting the tube. That dust is terrible for your lungs.
was going to say this same thing. Fiberglass, resin, and carbon fiber definitely a no-no lung haver. Would suggest a vacuum table setup myself as it should help with keeping it clean too.
They don't need no ear plugs neither.
@@stoker20 Ignorance and that "I'm too tough for this shit" attitude is how a lot of people die from workplace hazards.
Just found your channel and look forward to watching your content.
I met you and your crew at Bradenton during Sick Week and enjoyed the info and conversation.
Keep up the great work.
Awesome work!!
Thanks so much....AMAZING 👍
Shoe🇺🇸
If you have had to pull 5 gallon buckets apart, then Imagine the preparation, components, adhesives and processes displayed here! A top quality proven and tested product! Appreciate the process. Great video!
Awesome video! I'm here from Steve Morris channel. I saw his video and wanted to see how it was made. Thanks for showing.
I also am a SME channel subscriber , and I must say this was very interesting. I always wondered about carbon shafts. It would be interesting to see how the tubes are made. I'm sure this will cure the wagon's appetite for U joints and driveshafts. Many Thanks.
Measuring length from center to center by eyeballing it isn't a great way. Measuring from closest edge to furthest edge will give exact centers providing cap size is the same
Excellent video! 💪🏼
Great content!! Very informative - - Thanks for sharing!!
Y’all Honestly should start putting out more videos. Very detailed process.
Good stuff!!! Thx
Wow what a fantastic insight! Thanks for sharing 🙂
Awesome thanks for the video
Thanks for keeping us all safe ☺️
Very informative! Good video
I saw Steve unbox your driveshaft, and today watched this. I didn't realize what went into bonding the carbon fiber to the yoke.
That has to be some monster stuff to handle the loads he's putting into the drivetrain. Pretty amazing.
Awesome work happening there. Have you thought about sliding a piece of foam into the cut area to prevent the dust filling the tube? A good vacuum on the saw would also help. It would also help keep you from getting it in your lungs. Sorry, I was in charge of health and safety for a $66M company 20 years ago and old habits die hard.
You don't need to be in health and safety to understand that hazardous particles are dangerous to the lungs, it's just common sense. @5:14 when the cutting starts, both of them inhaled a crazy amount of carbon fiber particles into their lungs. And if they've been doing this for years, the damage is already done.
Very cool insight into high end parts!
Pretty neat to see how the CF driveshafts are made!
i was thinking while the driveshaft was loaded. i wouldn't be sitting so close to the shaft in case it explodes. Then the machine breaks lol
Awesome job on the video guys 🤘🇦🇺🤘
Awesome video man
Best practice cutting CF is continuous rim diamond with water lubrication. Not sure if you can get a non-segmented blade for that saw, but you can certainly run water.
This will eliminate the dust issue others highlighted and also minimise the risk of creating small flaws that can be failure initiation sites.
thats a very intresting process!!
You guys did my Aluminum , so glad I used you to make mine. Its not a Steve Morris , but my 6.0 S10 should be no slouch! Thanks GUYS and Gals \m/ \m/ you rock and I’m gonna Roll!
Thanks for Sharing , That is amazing Technology ! Liked , Subscribed and hit that Notification Bell !
Great content!
THAT WAS COOL always wondered how carbon was assembled.
The torque tester is an old lathe bed , tail stock and probably head stock modified into a tester. A hydraulic cylinder cap / gland remover bench would be a better off the shelf basis for a tester.
Very interesting to see how they are made
Just a friendly piece of advice. When cutting carbon, wear safety glasses and a breathing mask! Carbon dust in your eyes or lungs would really suck. I saw a cloud come off that piece when the saw bit in. Stay safe.
@5:14 I was like 😬😲. How many years have they been doing this???
Some people just don't understand the dangers when working with hazardous materials. And when they get sick or diagnosed with cancer, it's too late.💀
Great video, very informative, Where do the actual shafts/tubes come from?
Very cool!
Very informative video ! 👍
Great video guy and gals.
As someone who built fiberglass body components for SCCA and drag racing applications for many years, heed my words please. On small jobs l wouldn't take the time to mask up when spraying my mold release agent (part-all10) and gelcoat. After making the piece and removing it from the mold once again, because it was a small part, l'd trim the edges using a diamond wheel without a mask. I've been on O2 for the past 5 years now, 2-LPM 24/7. Wear a mask. Carbon fiber is brutal.
As you can see by the comments the world loves Steve. Thanks for getting him right.
Strong Enough to break the machine, ...... just strong enough for Steve. :D
Hell yeah brother!
Mell handled that shaft so well
Mel is a badass. Well done!
That’s what I want for my truck when I put twin turbos into it.
When Steve cut up his drive shaft to give it away, he was wondering about how the yokes are glued to the shaft. This video needs to be attached to his own just to show what is involved and just how good a carbon fiber shaft is. I doubt Steve will damage this one. I watched the video of him installing this driveshaft. It's huge!
So this is awesome!
I like the shock unload testing!
IKR!
Isn't carbon fibre dust a carcinogenic ? I'm amazed you don't wear any respiratory protection while cutting it. 😮
Watching the process of putting a drives haft together was very interesting though 👍🏻
Hopefully Steve is happy with his drives haft and it's drives him to kick Bailey's ass 😁
I was thinking exactly the same about respiratory protection. Carbon fibre dust is very bad to inhale, especially regularly.
The CF itself is carcinogenic and the question on the type of bonding resins used during the manufacture of the tubes could also be. Regardless, CF isn't found in nature so the body doesn't know how to deal with it and tries to expel it from the lungs which causes scarring of lung tissue. Not good so yes, everyone citing the use of an appropriate respirator is warranted.
Because they are amateurs, this is just like Etsy some one hacks something together and sells it.
@@OneHappyCrazyPerson Interesting. Amateurs ay? Have a go at it and you'll likely experience the wrath of haters lurking the web as well. Good luck! lol
@@strykerentllc so you dont hold free speech high?
The degree of rotation flex made me think some yoke timing advance might be in order . If we knew close to what torque was being imparted on it during a run (I'm sure Steve knows) you could add that much advance into the yoke timing to have true yoke alignment under load to minimize yoke accel /decel vibration .
The only thing I could think was STAND THE F BACK!!!
nice work mel
I’d hate to know how many driveshafts she’s made not wearing a mask whilst cutting. I for some reason thought I’d be watching how the carbon fiber shaft was actually made aswell, still quite a nice insite into how they’re assembled. Thanks 👍🏻
Or how many years they've been cutting the carbon fiber shafts this way with zero protection?😬
A shit ton of these carbon fiber particles and resin are already in their lungs by this stage. Just a matter of time before one of them becomes very sick.
@@metarugia3981you know I thought the same but my uncle's been working with carbon fiber since the race team he works for started using it from body panels to wings to splitters and he hasn't ever worn a mask either and he has better lungs then me so I don't understand it but the way I can taste it in the air when something carbon breaks or is cut I'll choose to mask up while in the shop just because it feels wrong not to lol
Fascinating
Hell Yeah Brother!
you got a sub for that one. like to see folks who enjoy what them do...😉
Love it
That was cool to watch . Great job
Except for this part @5:14 that wasn't so cool to watch, when he cut the carbon fiber tube with all those lovely particles and both inhaling it.
@@metarugia3981 totally it gave me anxiety seeing the lack of PPE
Thanks for the video. It was cool seeing this build. That wagon is going to use its 3,500lbs to retest this shaft ! lol
Its funny when you say cleanliness is so important to the bonding strength, I straight away think of 2Pac paint and how it reacts to silica giving a fish eye effect.
As quite a few others have already said, get respirators for cutting the carbon fibre ASAP. It’s extremely bad to inhale carbon fibre dust. That said, beautiful work, those driveshafts look incredible!
I also was concerned about safety when they tested the driveshaft. No guard over the shaft whatsoever. If it failed, a yoke could go flying and cause a lot of damage/injury. These guys appear to put out a great product but they need to step up their safety.
@@danmyers9372 yep! And when the camera person moved in closer while it was testing I was like 😬 If that shaft had snapped they could have been unalived
Subscribed, Steve can be thanked.
Cool video guys
Very cool
Great video and thank you Mel for introducing me to the Just Rite plunger can. This will be a huge help when tig welding! Now you need to make the worlds strongest potato 🥔 cannon! 🤓
HELL YEAH, BROTHER!
Coolest video I have seen today, great job and really cool how all that goes together!!!!
Hey Mel
Yeah,
Driveshaft is good
Great,
Torquinator is broke though
Cool
honest question i used to be in the sheet metal and fab place as a cnc machinist and have dealt with alot of clean room parts wouldn't it be better to flash/heat it then do your wash with acetone to achieve a higher cleaning result i assume there is something i am missing but i"m genuinely curious
Awesome to see how you make carbon fiber shafts. I need a pair of steel shafts for my Jeep Comanche, nothing special, just can't find any.
Excellent video! Hopefully this gets your company more exposure to customers who need a quality driveline shop.
Nice video ,I watch Steve morris videos…was wondering how the new drive shaft was assembled…😊😊
Very interesting video
Really cool seeing what goes into these drive shafts. I’d like to know who supplies the glue?
It’s 3M Scotch Weld 460. You can see it around 9:56 into the video.