@@SundaysCatch I’ve been an apprentice to my dad for 3 years now and early on I thot securing flanges was overrated and didn’t do all that much… I quickly learned that’s foolish and take the time to make sure that bitch is solid now.
Encased in concrete there’s no point to securing it. The metal will rust/bend independently from the screws, so that doesn’t stop a thing. You only really need to secure it when it’s floating, as for between floors or on blocks. In a slab your not doing anything. Your not supposed to used the toilet bolts to lock it either, just get them snug. I’ve replaced countless busted flanges that were bolted down because someone over tightened them.
If anyone reading this that is installing a new bath floor, no matter the material your toilet flange should always sit on top of the finished floor. This will solve so many headaches that could arise.
Thats so interesting, I would think you'd want it flush to the rest of the floor! Not planning on installing a toilet anytime soon so I'll 100% just take your word for it 🤣
@@elisasancho600 Yup, a simple Google search shows it that way for all finished floor surfaced. The flange molded into the base of toilet has a reveal to allow for that finished floor plus a flange. Follow that and you will be fine.
Builders of my home set it below the tile on a second floor bathroom. Guess what happened…twice. So after tearing out the sheetrock in the pantry ceiling which is directly below the second floor bathroom (genius floor plan), I finally got smart (thank you YT) and installed a flange above the tile. Frickin retards.
@@elisasancho600- If the flange is flush to the surface flooring the leak can occur below the surface level leaking beneath the top floor and rather into the subfloor and go unnoticed for a long period creating and easily understandable myriad of problems. Having the flange raise allows and seal issue between the toilet and flange like wax deteriorating in one spot allowing a partial glow each flush to spill over the flange and allow some of the waste water to escape the seal and escape, therefore leaving a portion in the back of the toilet free of caulk to allow the leak to pour out from the toilet base onto the top of the top floor gives you a visual indication there is something wrong with the seal between the toilet and flange (or otherwise and either way need to disassemble and inspect). Mounting flush hides it and creates subfloor moisture issues.
I always love people who take pride in their work. Even the little things like cleaning up the water with paper towels. I was always told if a job is worth doing it's worth doing right
Perfect you took the extra step to anchor and this is the first flange ive seen done correctly which is on finish floor not below with 2 wax rings if it's done right you can use plan wax ring not extra thick or can't leak ring , 40 Master Plumber here 🤘🏼🪠🤙
Unfortunately cost depends on the state you live in. It’s an easy job for someone who knows what he’s doing but it is a skilled job. Break that pipe in the slab and the cost rises exponentially. Same applies if it’s on a second floor. To the average home owner I would say don’t try this at home.
I do not charge extra but I always put a price for the flange replacement before pulling the toilet just to let them know what it would be if it is bad. (You can’t tell until you remove the toilet). Prices very from state. The flange replacement here is around $500 - $800
@@theplumbersplungerDAMN! That's a hell of a lot more than I was expecting. Figured for that much extra work and parts it'd be like $25-50 MAX. How much does the toilet install itself cost without the flange? I've done several myself and my guess would be ~$150 since it's pretty damn quick and easy
@@NotMe-ej9yz With those prices no one would stay in business. The toilet install for customer supplied is about $300-$400. I work for a company and don’t set the prices but this company has some of the “cheaper” prices I have seen in my area.
For a handyman $150-200 might be typical. However, for a business/plumber you’re paying them for being experts. If you want an expert then you’re paying for their travel time, fuel, labor, parts, future maintenance on vehicles and tools … and more.
I recently redid my bathroom and installed the flange on top of the tiles, like seen in finale here. I have to install spacers on bottom because toilet doesn’t sit flat to floor. Is it the toilet itself or am I missing something? Using clear shims so it’s not a big deal but kinda frustrating ya know
What you can do next time your toilet is removed is put a straight edge across the bottom and measure how much room you have for the flange. Usually the problem is the floor is not flat.
What's the latest and greatest for tile over tile floors? Still using thick or doubled up wax rings or is there a more reliable long term solution? Wax rings onn2nd floor only lasted 4 years in my home and ruined a ceiling downstairs sadly
What to do when the wood is rotted and nothing to screw bolts into? A neighbor tried and got so frustrated he literally just put the wax seal on the cast iron pipe and no bolts nothing.. I'm beyond worried my toilet is going to leak...no funds for this senior 😢
The toilet in house I just got leaks damaged ceiling in basement when flushed - replaced the wax ring but still leaks, the repair guy put two wax rings and said it’s fine - can someone tell me do I need a plumber to raise the flange? The toilet doesn’t feel like it seals being set on one wax ring , but when there two stacked it feels tight- the floor is tiled , wonder when they roughed in the flange they did t raise it by 1/4 inch?
As an electrician I have to comment. I see no gfi or arc fault protection. You didn’t bond the sweep and attached the ring without wirenuts or even electrical tape. This looks like hack work man.
@@michaeldudas7584 I'm from UK and thought why the hell is there no stub sticking up from the ground? Why is it flush with the floor?! It's asking for trouble.
@theplumbersplunger I'm just an apprentice, though am approaching 2 years, and my boss would have done the same thing as you only we use all plastic flanges and spacers. Though i think we use 4x3 flanges, where they fit inside a 4" pipe and around a 3" pipe. But you were helping the customer out with not needing to smash up the floor or underside ceiling, and the restriction doesn't seem that bad
THANK YOU FOR SECURING IT. so many plumbers say they don’t do it and I just cringe every time I hear that
Always secure it or you will be back again for the same issue. Thank you for the comment.
@@theplumbersplunger Yupp I do it every time. Guys can be so lazy lol
@@SundaysCatch I’ve been an apprentice to my dad for 3 years now and early on I thot securing flanges was overrated and didn’t do all that much… I quickly learned that’s foolish and take the time to make sure that bitch is solid now.
Nah fr then holes aren't there for decoration
Encased in concrete there’s no point to securing it. The metal will rust/bend independently from the screws, so that doesn’t stop a thing. You only really need to secure it when it’s floating, as for between floors or on blocks. In a slab your not doing anything. Your not supposed to used the toilet bolts to lock it either, just get them snug. I’ve replaced countless busted flanges that were bolted down because someone over tightened them.
Nice job. From a 37 year Master Plumber.
Wow thanks mr master 37 year plumber
more like master baiter
Many headaches in those 37yrs 😅
@@Masterofnon3 True but I have loved every minute of my trade. Ok most minutes.
If anyone reading this that is installing a new bath floor, no matter the material your toilet flange should always sit on top of the finished floor. This will solve so many headaches that could arise.
Thats so interesting, I would think you'd want it flush to the rest of the floor! Not planning on installing a toilet anytime soon so I'll 100% just take your word for it 🤣
@@elisasancho600 Yup, a simple Google search shows it that way for all finished floor surfaced. The flange molded into the base of toilet has a reveal to allow for that finished floor plus a flange. Follow that and you will be fine.
Builders of my home set it below the tile on a second floor bathroom. Guess what happened…twice. So after tearing out the sheetrock in the pantry ceiling which is directly below the second floor bathroom (genius floor plan), I finally got smart (thank you YT) and installed a flange above the tile. Frickin retards.
@@elisasancho600- If the flange is flush to the surface flooring the leak can occur below the surface level leaking beneath the top floor and rather into the subfloor and go unnoticed for a long period creating and easily understandable myriad of problems. Having the flange raise allows and seal issue between the toilet and flange like wax deteriorating in one spot allowing a partial glow each flush to spill over the flange and allow some of the waste water to escape the seal and escape, therefore leaving a portion in the back of the toilet free of caulk to allow the leak to pour out from the toilet base onto the top of the top floor gives you a visual indication there is something wrong with the seal between the toilet and flange (or otherwise and either way need to disassemble and inspect). Mounting flush hides it and creates subfloor moisture issues.
I always taught at a minimum it should be flush, but above is best
I always love people who take pride in their work. Even the little things like cleaning up the water with paper towels. I was always told if a job is worth doing it's worth doing right
He owns his work!!
Anyone got a ballpark range of how much this would cost?
Thanks bro. Been a plumber 15 years and never done this until
Today. Did exactly what you did. Was cake Ty
Awesome! You lucked out having 4" pvc to glue your flange into. Excellent job!
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That was 3”
I always wondered how those 3" inside the fittings worked, I always went well beyond to avoid doing that.
Damn, you got really lucky with that one having pvc in there lol.
How much do you charge in addition to the toilet swap. To replace the flange?
Thanks for the video and content.
That new flange fit clean as hell
Sometimes I miss plumbing 😩
Perfect you took the extra step to anchor and this is the first flange ive seen done correctly which is on finish floor not below with 2 wax rings if it's done right you can use plan wax ring not extra thick or can't leak ring , 40 Master Plumber here 🤘🏼🪠🤙
Awesome job.
Nice!
Awesome dude
That floor could use a good acid wash
Was this on concrete???
How do u bolt down on concrete
Tapcon screws
Why can't I get my 4inch flange into the old 4 inch cast iron pipe?
Good job
Interesting tile cutout around the toilet
Those thicksters are life savers
Clean work
Good work. 🥃
If I were doing this but didn’t want to put another toilet in, how would I close up that spot and make it level?
that tile job is absolutely horendous - good job with flange
My OCD is screaming with the way the tile is cut around the pipe 😭😭
How much does this work cost?
Ever do a steel flange in conxrete?
Udon’t need primer?
Good job sonny
I wanted to see the finished product 😢😢.
How much does this cost? Do you wind up charging extra for the unexpected?
Unfortunately cost depends on the state you live in. It’s an easy job for someone who knows what he’s doing but it is a skilled job. Break that pipe in the slab and the cost rises exponentially. Same applies if it’s on a second floor. To the average home owner I would say don’t try this at home.
I do not charge extra but I always put a price for the flange replacement before pulling the toilet just to let them know what it would be if it is bad. (You can’t tell until you remove the toilet). Prices very from state. The flange replacement here is around $500 - $800
@@theplumbersplungerDAMN! That's a hell of a lot more than I was expecting. Figured for that much extra work and parts it'd be like $25-50 MAX. How much does the toilet install itself cost without the flange? I've done several myself and my guess would be ~$150 since it's pretty damn quick and easy
@@NotMe-ej9yz With those prices no one would stay in business. The toilet install for customer supplied is about $300-$400. I work for a company and don’t set the prices but this company has some of the “cheaper” prices I have seen in my area.
For a handyman $150-200 might be typical. However, for a business/plumber you’re paying them for being experts. If you want an expert then you’re paying for their travel time, fuel, labor, parts, future maintenance on vehicles and tools … and more.
I can hear the customer complaining “ The flange wasn’t broken before!!😢😢”.
show the wax ring squish!!
I recently redid my bathroom and installed the flange on top of the tiles, like seen in finale here. I have to install spacers on bottom because toilet doesn’t sit flat to floor. Is it the toilet itself or am I missing something? Using clear shims so it’s not a big deal but kinda frustrating ya know
What you can do next time your toilet is removed is put a straight edge across the bottom and measure how much room you have for the flange. Usually the problem is the floor is not flat.
What screws u use
How much does a job like this cost?
You're shit looks right bro. Keep it up
Street flange
Part name and number used ? Please
Tile men are the worst offenders they use double waxes instead of raising the flange
What's the latest and greatest for tile over tile floors? Still using thick or doubled up wax rings or is there a more reliable long term solution? Wax rings onn2nd floor only lasted 4 years in my home and ruined a ceiling downstairs sadly
Oatey or someone makes flange risers that you can stack up on top of each other until you get the right height, they’re slick
Solid
sweet.
What to do when the wood is rotted and nothing to screw bolts into? A neighbor tried and got so frustrated he literally just put the wax seal on the cast iron pipe and no bolts nothing.. I'm beyond worried my toilet is going to leak...no funds for this senior 😢
Woah, what size was that?
Three inch he said
The only thing about that flange is you got to use a regular flange one without a horn
That is true
Now it's unhacked.
Why didn't you fill up the void with some type of silicon sealant....
Don't you use purple primer than glue
Wax? Why not a rubber flange?
I trust the wax more than the rubber ones. Have seen too many leak for no reason .
Got lucky
That tiler needed to be closer
Why can’t you tell us what that stuff are using to make it is…
There is 6 holes on that flange for a reason buddy
I bet any money they didnt bolt the flange down so they cemented the toilet sturdy.😂
The toilet in house I just got leaks damaged ceiling in basement when flushed - replaced the wax ring but still leaks, the repair guy put two wax rings and said it’s fine - can someone tell me do I need a plumber to raise the flange?
The toilet doesn’t feel like it seals being set on one wax ring , but when there two stacked it feels tight- the floor is tiled , wonder when they roughed in the flange they did t raise it by 1/4 inch?
They make spacers you can put on top of an existing flange to come up to finished floor level.
That poor Milwaukee drill.. just upgrade to a Makita
Still baffles me that lead is used in any point of our water supply.
Left holes not filled by new flange 😮
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You broke the tile lmao
That shit was cracked fr9m the very start of the video broda
Ur lucky that that 1 wasn't all cast iron 😢.
👍🏽😊 Glue is much easier 😅
Yes! 🤣😅
thats a purtty poop shoot
Says he installed the toilet. Doesnt show it. I dont believe him
People clean your grout, it’s not that difficult.
Come change mine please 🙏
For the amount of food you folks eat that's a really small exit pipe it should be at least a 6inch pipe
The outlet on the toilet is only about 2”
Is that brown stuff shit?
You did it wrong. Amen
Who needs a toilet in their closet? Nasty
That's kinda dirty!!!😳🤔🤢🤮
That’s a piece of crap flange , don’t care if it’s stainless or not ,they are CRAP
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Why?
As an electrician I have to comment.
I see no gfi or arc fault protection.
You didn’t bond the sweep and attached the ring without wirenuts or even electrical tape.
This looks like hack work man.
While it gets the job done it is not legal!
What’s not legal?
@@theplumbersplunger Not allowed to waste a toilet in less than 3'' line Look it up hot shot!
@@michaeldudas7584 what was less than 3”?
@@theplumbersplunger The insert flange. DAH
@@michaeldudas7584 I'm from UK and thought why the hell is there no stub sticking up from the ground? Why is it flush with the floor?! It's asking for trouble.
USA has some really stupid ways of connecting WC's .the old one must have stunk to high hell for years .😢 😂😂😂
Does anybody else know the fundamental error this genius made?
Explain what that is please 😂
@@theplumbersplunger
Maybe he is talking about using a stainless steel ringed flange? They do eventually rust out
@@merlinious01 Maybe lol. My guess was the inside the pipe closet flange because of the “restriction “.
@theplumbersplunger
I'm just an apprentice, though am approaching 2 years, and my boss would have done the same thing as you only we use all plastic flanges and spacers.
Though i think we use 4x3 flanges, where they fit inside a 4" pipe and around a 3" pipe.
But you were helping the customer out with not needing to smash up the floor or underside ceiling, and the restriction doesn't seem that bad
No what
Better keep a plunger on stand by because those inside 3” pipe flanges are nothing but a clog waiting to happen
Now that drill and screwdriver have shit and piss on them. Remember that when you do jobs where you don't wear gloves then go eat.
Wtf was he supposed to do exactly? Put condoms on the tools?
Good job