The Flash - Angry Movie Review
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AngryJoe, OtherJoe & Alex Review Ezra Miller's The Flash one of the Last DCEU Films that has Tim Burton's Batman return, is it as good as it was Hyped up to Be? Find out!
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Its amazing they keep someone like Ezra Miller who has caused so much trouble and has multiple run-ins with the law yet doesn't want someone like Henry Cavil who just wants to do justice for his character and stay true to the source material.
Money over morals. The movie was pretty much almost done when that nepo baby decided to screw around. So they sat on it and waited till now to release it.
Who said they are keeping Ezra?
They're not keeping him it's just that they already made the movie by the time James Gunn took over
@@bobhill6561the fact that people don’t understand that is mind-boggling
He's a he/she and white..... what's confusing?
The budget for CGI went all into Ezra’s bail and court fees
Pretty much.
nice joke. where did you get it?
@@kiratwo4uanother comment section if I had to guess
was this a FB comment or reddit comment you took?
@@kiratwo4u Ezra’s record
I loved how natural Keaton was back as Batman/Bruce Wayne. It felt perfect. The mans still got it.
It's called acting and he's good at it.
Didn't make the movie good though. It was a hot mess.
He carried the movie.
Im suprised it was good..like still
I thought he felt really really different, but it was still really cool.
Seeing Michael Keaton in action as Batman at his current age, made me realize how bad I want a live-action Batman Beyond movie!
They were making it and with Keaton but it got scrapped when James took over
Man he’s the best Batman!!!! And I wasn’t even alive when he was Batman
@@Ketchup_and_Mustard373 it was scraped before him coming
He literally would not make sense his batman kills the whole point of Bruce deciding to stop being batman in batman beyond is because for once he almost had to kill someone with a gun keatons batman killed people a shit tone😂
@@theotherguy21 No movie ever has been faithful to the source material.
I'll never get tired of the angry rants about Henry's mistreatment. Its well deserved. When you consider all the love the character gets and all the love the actor gets -its throwing away good will and money to continue to ignore Henry's Superman.
Cos Snyder didn’t understand the character
@@firstlast9846stfu yes he did YOU are the one who didn't understand him
@@DuneLover1472 No. He really didn't.
Superman at his core is a character that was created to be an embodiment of hope, altruism and restraint. The idea that you could have a man who could do anything he wanted and used it to help people and make the world a better place because he chose to.
The superman of the DCEU? That character was mired in despair, defeat and cynicism. Which is a god damn shame because Cavil is a hell of an actor and absolutely looked the part so he could have done amazing things with it.
@@guitarhausdoesntknowwhatac3285 no character is "supposed" to be anything. And if ur reasoning for him not understanding the character is bc he's not similar to the comics then that's an invalid argument. If u want a happy and lighthearted and gay/fairy superman then go watch those Christopher reeve movies and go read the comics. Not everyone wants a lighthearted/funny superhero movie he was trying to do something different and you need to just accept that and move on.
@@firstlast9846 agreed
This is a rare movie were I can understand any range of opinion. If you hated it, if you loved it, if you thought it was ok. I get you.
Like the Little Mermaid?
I hated the start+flying babies+time travel part, I loved the shenanigans of Ezra Miller and Barry Allen, I was really disappointed and cringed right after Keaton said "Let's get nuts"
They shouldn't put Keaton on the old suit, rather we should have presented multiple batsuits and Keaton should've hear wear a modified suit. Sort of suit that does not look plastic in even lighting and that he actually could move his head.
This is the same for marvel now
Yeah I’m with you
Ezra Miller not being punished and still acting despite his crimes is hella wild
Creepy Hollywood for you.
Its because the crimes he's actually been proven to have committed arent as big as the drama the internet claims he committed.
He's not acting. This movie has been done for a while. He's done in Hollywood
@@functionatthejunctionWTF are you talking about there’s literally VIDEOS of him assaulting his fans!
Ezra is also a terrible Flash. Bring back jock Flash
the fact that batman went up against a kryptonian without any real knowledge of there powers and weaknesses and with no kriptonite, and lasted more than 10 seconds and even managed to knock one down for a moment....is more than enough for me
why? none of them had powers. the main point of MoS was to show that zod became strong enough to handle superman because he also got infused with sunlight.
agreed. Also seeing Chris Reeve again was more than enough for me.
Keaton’s Batman was ready to go out like a heroic bad ass. I loved it
@@sithddy7208 I think most people showed up just to see Keaton again.
@@sithddy7208 I think most people showed up just to see Keaton again.
I think the whole Supergirl arc is to show how powerful and important Superman is especially in Snyder’s world. Superman was the only one powerful enough to stop Zod and bc of that, Darkseid and other aliens feared how powerful Superman was and waited till he was killed to try and invade Earth.
Also makes more sense why Superman had to kill Zod too. All the chaos and death in The Flash showed what Zod was planning on doing if no one could stop him
You do realize these are fake comic book characters right? They aren't real people...
@@nathanwho1384 are there real comic book characters out there?
The Supergirl (and Batman) arc is there to reinforce the lesson Barry had to learn about letting go. He kept going back to try to save her (and Batman) which kept compounding the problems he created when he saved his mother. It had zero to do with Superman especially since Supergirl here was even greener than Zod in terms of using her powers. She actually did quite well despite that. Probably because she actually had some combat training.
And in the thousands of years between Darkseid invading the first time and superman being sent to the planet why didn't he invade then
@@DeShawnMcDonald Because the mother box wasn‘t activated then not until cyborg was created
The thought of Barry now just stuck in the "Batman and Robin" universe is hilarious and fitting to me.
I don’t understand why they did that. Like why?
@@jeremyroberts8822 because it was probably a one last fuck you to Ezra Miller from both WB/DC for all the 2022 bullshit he's done. He's in franchise prison now
@rbleaks818 - funny enough “franchise prison” is what I called it too 💀 he’s being kept FAR away from this new DCU
its not that universe lmao. its the same batman, physically - but not THAT batman from that universe.
I thought Barry is now in the DCU? I don't get it.
I don’t understand how the CGI could be that bad considering they had ALL this time with reshoots, timing etc on their side to clean that shit up. Obviously that wasn’t the case which is disappointing.
Maybe if they didn’t rewrite the movies 40 times
Human models straight out of Mass Effect.
It’s so bad I think Ezra traveled to the year 1990s with how bad the cg looked
@@roxtechs yup, and I still find it hilarious that Gunn & DC want to have this “10 year” plan with their DC films but haven’t released ANYTHING in that universe. If that Superman film flops either critically or financially it’s over, no ifs, ands, or buts. They have ONE shot.
CGI is done last. With all these reshoots, the film budget did grow to an absurd level, so the studio tried to cut as much as they could at the later production stage.
Just saw the movie. It was better then I was expecting. I really enjoyed it and had fun. Sure there messy plots and weird CGI but I don’t care. The ending got to me emotionally with the mom scene.
It's the thing rhat stuck out to me bit cheap when movies do this but felt earnt bt the end of the movie
Fair enough
I felt JACK SHIT at that scene. I did enjoy the movie much more than I thought (just seen it on Max) but that scene did not evoke ANY emotions from me. There wasn’t enough interactions between them for me to feel sad. She’s essentially a stranger. I get it she pretty much is to him but it just wasn’t sad to me, wasn’t earned.
I will say, Batmans explanation of time travel with spaghetti was the one of the best ways I've heard time travel and the consequences of it explained lol
Ya but wasn't weird that he somehow understands how that works? Lol
@@MrFoolD no, he's batman
@@ZombieStunner He's a detective not a scientist.
@@MrFoolD I don't care haha. The fact that he could explain it in a way that made sense and didn't make you feel stupid. Was great
@@MrFoolD Batman is smarter than tony stark and it’s not even close
There was a real missed opportunity for Henry Cavill to return in the final fight as one of Zod’s men. Can you imagine how cool it would’ve been if he fought supergirl.
it's all about girl boss now which in real life they won't do.
@@mysticstrikeforce5957dude you’re not even making sense she couldn’t win against zod how tf is that “girl boss”. Idiots just saying words
That makes no sense, and is not a missed opportunity.
@@MrHerolet Probably because nobody wanted a (mexican?) "diversity" supergirl. In fact, nobody wanted a supergirl period, because they're tired of gay, feminist, "progressive" crap being crammed down their throat. It doesn't matter if the film is woke or not at this point. Everyone is sick of the BS.
She's a stupid, D-tier character. Her place is on the CW with batgirl.
Watch the movie man. Superman in comparison to Supergirl absolutely smoked Zod in Man of Steel.
There actually IS a way to explain Kara’s fighting prowess
If you recall, in Man Of Steel, Jor-El was a bad ass and was beating Zod prior to getting stabbed. Being that she was assigned to protect Kal-El, she probably go the same style of training.
There's actually a better way to explain it.
In this universe she had the Kryptonian DNA in her. That's why Zod needs her blood not Kal-El's
And the way Kryptonian society worked was babies were bred to be warriors, leaders, or civilians. (That's why in MoS young Clark is seen reading The Republic, by Plato. That is one of the central proponents of his city-state analogy of the triparte soul of individual). To summarise it v briefly he argues the soul is made up of reason, spirit, and physical needs and that the moral person is ruled by reason, and reason uses spirit to keep physical needs in check. Immoral people are ruled either by their spirit or physical needs. To explain it further he compares the human to a city and describes 'the perfect state' where children born as assigned a soul of gold, silver, or bronze. A false myth required to keep social order, but essentially those with soul of gold are intellectual and should be rulers. Those with silver are ruled by spirit and so should be guardians following orders of rulers. And those with bronze are the common folk who are ruled by physical needs an so make the best businessmen but required guardians to keep them from being overly greedy. That is the societal structure of krypton though the souls of leaders, warriors, civilians is not a myth but genetically encoded by the codex when babies are artificially created
They assign the role of the baby at birth through the codex.
Zod even says in MoS that he was bred to be a warrior
That is why Superman is thematically meant to be superior. Because he has the genes to all so can rely on the strength of each. As Jor-El says in MoS the freedom to choose your own destiny, to fullfil your own potential.
But in this universe Kara has had that entire Kryptonian DNA put in her. So SHE has the warrior genes (as well as the genes for ruler's and civilians)
Exactly, Kara is older than Kal when she leaves Krypton so she was 100% taught to fight prior to arriving on earth
@@SeelsOfElation Alot of the issues they had with the film were explained in the film. For some reason they came in ready to hate it...but them thinking its ok even with (poor CGI) shows its not as bad as people want you to believe. Expectations for superhero movies have gone off from the days of catwoman, ghost rider, so on. The effects weren't perfect but plenty of good effects too.
Very true
Which is total bullshit to begin with, because they establish Krypton as a society based on castes. So we basically had a scientist beating a warrior, both literally programmed at birth. I enjoyed this new take of Krypton, but the little Jor-El vs Zod fist fight was utterly ridiculous
Idc if Ezra gave the best performance of all time. He is a POS who deserves to be held accountable for his actions
@@CGx91 yeah… that’s what life is about? You’re allowed to hate or support anyone or anything you like. Go touch grass
@@CGx91low IQ take
@@CGx91 🤡 cry more how old are you
@@CGx91 maybe follow your own advice
I disagree, I if the performance is good its fine. I don't want a Depp did this, swap him for Madz, then Madz did this so swap him for Jeff Goblum. Imagine the Box set of Fantastic beasts in future, what a mess.
The reason why Supergirl can fight is because she was training as a soldier in Krypton before it was destroyed. The people who don't read comics and see Superman as this alien who pretends to be human and saves humans because they're fragile is actually who Supergirl is. She's angry, she's dark and she's always sad because she actually saw what Krypton looked like and actually had an attachment to the planet unlike Superman who only saw it in holograms.
People shouldn't have to read the comics to understand a movie, or it's a bad movie. I'm a reader but I don't expect everyone to be
@@palaniuki I know, I'm only giving Joe an background of Supergirl because as much as he says that he's a big fan of Supergirl he doesn't even know her origin story.
So several issues in the movie. One she should be a lot older so has been captured for years and doesn’t have a sleep pod to explain her youthfulness, 2 if she arrived as a child she should have no memory or knowledge of Superman he was born secretly and sent off right before the collapse. And third no it should of taken her way longer to get used to her powers.
@@tiudesvx5400she didn't arrive as a child. Why do you assume that.
1.Supergirl was sent to Earth along with Kal to be his protector at the age of 15.
2.She would know Kal because they are cousins and she was supposed to be his protector but her ship malfunctioned and she was sent to the Phantom Zone instead, I don't know about the movie.
3.She was training to be a military soldier before Krypton was destroyed and she's been a captive in Earth for a long time thus it makes sense that she has mastered her powers by then if that's bs then Zod mastering his powers in less than a day is bs.
I wasn't expecting Cavill in this movie but the fact they left him out when including a load of other characters, it's a big slap in the face to Cavill & his fans!
Superman wasn't the only character left out of this movie.
!!!!!!
Look enough of the crap. I do t understand peoples obsession with Cavill. He isn’t “just like you” and never will be. Just because he shares some hobbies doesn’t make him special. His acting isn’t bad but it isn’t good either. And fans REALLY need to learn that you are not owed anything nor do you have made up “fan rights”. People love to think they know best despite the fact that they didn’t do any of the work to bring characters and worlds to life. Just because you watch a lot of movies doesn’t mean you know how to make one. Same for tv,books,comics etc
@@Drizzit57 I’m not even convinced he’s a real nerd lol. I think he’s just marketed himself that way so the fandoms of these properties are always putting him front and centre when casting talks start.
@@Drizzit57 Clearly, you seem to be envious. I'm sorry he has fans, and you're relegated to screaming at poor people on the internet.
They pointed out the whole Barry needs a lot of calories for quite an extended time over the first 20 minutes but then just completely ignored it for the rest of the movie, thought it would've been an issue near the end but nope.
Also the way they portrayed it was that he gets his powers from eating food..
Yeah, that was weird.
They don't ignore it they show young Barry eating a lot. He usually has food with him in the non action scenes.
@@tylerrichardson3034 they showed him eating alot, but alot for a normal person, not for the flash. if anything he actually barely ate.
at least in the TV series they gave the excuse that he has some custom made high density energy bars. but movie barry doesnt.
also, gotta love how he almost let that entire group of babies die, because he wasnt bothered to carry something to eat in case of emergency.
@@marcosdhelenodidn't he was about to order something when he's at the cafe and was forced to rush and help?
@@obriendenis3965 im talking about how he doesnt have anything for a power boost in case of emergency.
I think that the Momoa scene is to point out that he will be Aquaman in Gunn’s DCU because Barry said that he was basically the same person in other universes
I think they only left that in because Aquaman 2 still hasn't come out yet. The same reason they haven't said whether they're recasting Ezra or not. They don't want to make it seem like these movies are pointless because of the reboot and recasts. Jason Momoa has implied he will still be in the DCU, though. Whether he's Aquaman or Lobo, we'll see.
Seeing Nic Cage as Superman was worth the ticket price on its own.
it wasnt - it was a mess
Absolutely agree!! 😄
Yeah I also love seeing ps2 esque cgi models of nick cage ducking big spiders up! (We’re both automated bots designed to promote the film)
@@markbennett4617It was an absolute mess indeed, and I didn't care for one second. I enjoyed it to death.
@@markbennett4617
right ,unless youre a diehard superman fan,only they got that reference....anyone who didnt know he was gonna play him in a cancelled movie... it comes off like a "wtf" moment
The ending ruined it a lot for me. Barry learns to not mess with time, just to mess with time again, in the same exact moment, where he's undoing his previous fk-up. Just great.
Story wise, the movie was fine right up until they had the younger barry killed by his aged version essentially erasing the conflict for our barry on its own, from that point on the movie went off the rails. Like what was the point the Aged Barry created himself just to erase himself.
He didn't purposely mess with time. He thought he fixed everything only to learn that when you mess with time you can't fix it, it will always have an effect on something.
@@tylerrichardson3034 but he moved the tomatoes so his dad would look up in the camera
@@The_Patbey I didn't see it as him moving the tomatoes. I saw it as that being one of the random changes made to the timeline because of him interfering originally. I can see where you're coming from, though.
Classic Barry am I right?
TBH seeing Henry Cavill in bad CGI felt like a really bad way to put more salt into the wound of Henry fans instead of actual fanservice lol. They can fire him instead of Ezra but are still able to make a Lawnmower man CGI clone of him? Pretty insulting if you ask me
Pretty much Luke Skywalker and James Gunn is Kathleen Kennedy.
@dadocta5168 - don’t go comparing James Gunn to KK.. James has actually accomplished something cohesive.
@@dadocta5168 James Gunn who didn't produce this movie at all?
@@cjmk5923He gave input though
@@danteneal5561 He gave it a little too late. Did you forget how many reruns this movie had to undergo? Cut the guy a break. His debut will be soon.
That ending made me cry laughing.... of course they made him Batman😂
It’s interesting that this movie has been in production hell for so long that if it had come out 5 years ago maybe the premise wouldn’t feel so overplayed.
Yea, I believe it was the first modern multiversal superhero project to actually go into production, besides Into the SpiderVerse which didn't really factor into anything bigger initially and was more of an animated offshoot.
It would have been better received if it came out 5 years ago.
If it followed the general production formula, it probably would’ve been shorter, it would’ve had the money for all 3 stages of production, and it could’ve been a decent well done film😂
It probably would've had Jeffrey Dean Morgan as Batman instead, BvS and JL were heavily setting up Flashpoint what with Aquaman's trident, getting a big actor like Jeffrey to play Thomas Wayne, the Amazon/Atlantean War, etc. So probably no multiversal cameos
The CGI really pulled the movie down. One thing I will say without spoiling it, this movie actually created good tension other superhero movies don't have.
I felt zero tension during that third act 🤷♂️ we knew Ezra lives & the multiverse aspect takes away from the deaths (other than Barry’s mom) meaning anything
@@Therealfakemaxgoldberg lol we didn’t even find out who killed his mom.
@@tiudesvx5400Reverse Flash was the one who killed his mom. The reason they don’t show it is because it wouldn’t make any sense towards the story. 1. Barry would get his ass whooped this early on in his career 2. Eobard Thawne needs to be introduced first before even showing Reverse Flash
You pulled the movie down by viewing it .
@@tiudesvx5400 yeah that was another unsatisfying aspect, was hoping for reverse Flash tbh
The ps2 babies scared the shit out of me 😂 6/10 movie. Better than I thought it was going to be.
Agreed. Stop making CGI babies, they always end up terrifying!!!
😄😄😄😄😄
Visually horrible, plot makes no sense, it has no real ending, Barry is the worst DCEU character with Shazam, the post credit scene is a spite in the face of any comic fan, the humor is worst than any Marvel movie, cameos are visually scary and useless. No, 2 or 3 good moments can't make it a good movie for me.
I had no idea Ezra Miller was a method actor. They went insane in real life to prepare for the final act of the movie. Now that’s commitment!
He is a single person.
he doesn't deserve the respect of calling him by his pronouns. he deserves to be in prison like everyone else .
@@gilt8121duh, the flash has the ability to split himself into multiple people because hes soooo faaaast!
@@gilt8121 you clearly didn't see the movie, there was at least 4 Ezras!
The baby microwave scene was improvised by Ezra and he insisted on reshooting the scene at least 20 times.
I still can’t believe Ezra is still out and about enjoying life as a free person despite everything that came out that he’s a CRIMINAL.
they're not even talking about that... i think DC Fans doesn't want to talk about Ezra Millers issues
@@d4thetesor778 so let him have a job despite all his criminal behavior? While actors like Johnny depp got fired over allegations?
Hell no I’m not going to be silent about it. Ezra Miller is a horrible person. He should not be walking around freely
@@ki11aqueen5 ikr i think these youtubers like Ezra Miller 🤣 or fans of EM and Amber Turd
Well, this is a movie review not an actor review
The rich are not persecuted... this is a thing since the egyptians were building the pyramids, lol one of the fundamental truths of humanity, as ugly as it is
One thing I did like is that they actually tried to talk about the rules of Flash's power and they stuck to it more of less throughout the movie. Superhero movies don't do that these days.
Except one time where they said they shouldn't move people when moving fast, yet the flash moved a kid out of danger with no consequences. Then later, 2nd Barry moved OG Barry out of danger, and he threw up all over the place.
Lol props to them for breaking their own rules in the same movie. Better to not establish them.
@@Killormancan you explain?
@@owlcircus6811The moving people rule Ir is mentioned in the review as well as in the comments. I havent watched the movie, not gonna pay for that
@@Killorman Well he mentioned you can’t move people as super speed without them either having their insides turn to gush OR they’ll throw up, which is what other Barry did. As for the moving kid at super speed thing, he literally mentions that the world engine gravitating the kid in the air helped him grab him. Sorry I watched the movie.
Keaton was still one of the best actors to have played Batman!!!
We all said Keaton would steal this movie.
Yeah agreed, it's not even close. Those two Keaton movies were awesome. Only Dark Knight is up there but that is all thanks to Joker stealing the show.
facts
@@MaxiTBit's not even close with Christian bale lmao. Christian bale is the best hands down. Keaton is a bit boring
@@h.d.5194 Nah, Bale Clooney, Kilmer, and sparkles are the worst.
West and Keaton are the best.
The movie is good but when you considers the damage that WB has done to DC all these years is insane. I really had fun watching the movie, I just hope one day we get to see Ben Affleck and Henry back again. Also Cyborg, it's very sad what happened to him
I actually really enjoyed the reveal that Flash was at the Battle of Metropolis and failed to save both the kid and his dad. As insufferable as he can be at times, it added some depth as to why Barry doesn't feel as confident in his role as a superhero because of that first initial mistake
He saved the kid not the dad.
i didnt like that they didnt give him a chance to fix his mistake after showing us what happend
If he fixed it, it would change the timeline. He was supposed to make that mistake in order for him to become the hero he is
Let me guess, Joe saw the superman logo and creamed his pants and bought half the tickets in the theater?
The nicolas cage vs the giant spider is an amazing easter egg from the story that Kevin Smith told about his experience with his superman movie. Just amazing
After this movie i think it's finally time to make Wally West truly shine as a character in James Gunn's DCU.
Yes Wally West is a way better flash.
Now THATs my Flash. Largely thanks to the animated show from back in the day
if this is barry allen, yeah, bring wally. because this is no hero. dude's answer to the problem he created was "yeah, gonna dip, good luck there other barry!"
the irony is, it would actually been much better if the barry he left behind actually managed to win, but at the cost of everything else, and he blamed "main" barry instead, and became the "reverse flash" out of spite instead.
@@marcosdheleno Yeah honestly just anything to do with reverse flash in this movie would've been amazing for the second part. But I'm not even interested at this point with this stupid version of the flash.
The problem with that is for Wally you need Barry. Mostly for the emotional part of Wally’s growth not wanting to surpass his mentor and putting that mental block on himself.
If they can somehow explain Wally and Barry disappearing I’d be down for it cause Wally is my Flash too. They missed an opportunity ending the show with Wally. Let’s get him in the movies then.
First, video game companies rush unfinished product and now Hollywood has perfected it.
The only thing that bothered me other than the cgi is that he didnt go see who actually killed his mother
I don't understand why wb hates Cavill so much
He is outspoken and not a company sell out
They blame him for the fall of the DCEU.
No, it makes no sense.
Won’t go woke probably
He didn’t shave his mustache showed loyalty to wrong people
Because studios hate straight white masculine men 😒
I loved the movie. I'm honestly not that bothered by the vfx and had a good time with it. Gonna see it again.
Yeah same!
With you
One of my issues is the cameo scene, I get that they want to honor the actors that started it all but why goes through all the trouble recreating the looks with not great CGI while there are still actual current DC actors that you can call in for the cameos that people wants to be on the movie screen
They didnt want to honor anybody, they just wanted a cheap shot at nostalgia.
That scene was like a minute or two and is just fan service. The actual plot and fight scenes were done pretty well
cgi is so commonplace now soon they tell the main actors to stay home and they just cgi them into the movie. hire some bum from the street to act for a cup of coffee and then slap chris pratts face of whatever on the body.
these make the toy commercials of 90s look like high art
I think it was a decent re-telling of the Flashpoint storyline, but I wish they had made out the other Barry to be Reverse Flash. Have him act dumb and clueless throughout the movie while secretly possessing full powers and knowledge of Barry and the Flash. Him masquerading as Barry Allen would fit perfectly with his obsession with the Flash and him wanting to be Barry. I think that would have been a cool reveal, and so many moments in the movie would have you believe that that was going to be the case, but no.
Henry Cavil wants to do justice to his character & suggests rewrites that is more faithful to the sourcematerial?
DC/WB : "you are fired!"
Ezra Miller has multiple run ins with the law, is constantly mentaly unstable & starts a cult?
DC/WB : "nothing wrong here, keep being the star of our main flick this year " ( clown company )
he was not in the wrong universe at the end, he was in his own but it has been altered......if he was in a different universe then there would be another Barry Allen, where was this Barry Allen during the days it must have taken to get the trial over with?
Apart from CGI and some bits (baby scenes) This is a good DC movie. I really Liked it. Its great superhero Movie
It’s by far the best dceu movie🤷♂️and I think it’s one of the best superhero movies of all time
@@raymondsims7042you must’ve watched everything else with your eyes closed…
do y’all have no standards. this movie was stupid and all over the place.
Not sure if anyone noticed, but *spoiler alert* this movie sort of acknowledges that Zack Snyder Justice League occurred. When Ben Affleck discussed about Flash traveling in time, he mentioned “like you did in Pozharnov”. So now we got to include ZSJL (2021) in this timeline but we still have that Joss Whedon comedy when Batman and Flash touched the lasso of truth.
Like WTF Warner bros, do you even know what you want?
Joe's references to his friendship with Nicholas Cage feels like a really long bit
Is he actually friends with him? I thought he meant Nic Cage was a friend of Superman show
@@ShayneRawlsWell he did almost play Superman years ago.
@@ShayneRawls He needs to show proof if he wants people to believe that ngl
Joe has always been full of shit, like the multiple things he claims to be a huge fan of but gets basic lore wrong and quotes things directly from the wiki
The CGI budget all went to Ezra's legal fees
Andy: Nobody can replace Ezra Miller as the Flash
Bro Grant Gustin is literally right there, if he was given a good script to work with he can absolutely nail it
Austin would do just as good. Flash is an easy character to play
@@MrREAPERszNow I want Austin butler to play the flash! I think he’d make a great booster gold as well!
Ezra Miller is horrible. How is anyone thinking he's a great Flash? I'll really never understand what people like about him so much. Yes, Grant Justin was like a million times better - unfortunately, the show he's in is a million times worse.
No thanks to grant. Leave him for TV
24:09 Nicholas Cage called Angry Joe up crying cuz he was going to be in the film?
did no one else think Ezra Miller's portrayal of young Barry was based on Keanu Reeve's performance in the first Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure
Yes. Definitely resembled Ted.
Really disappointing to see people going to see this film and supporting it despite the disgusting crimes of the star and the studios continued support of him. We are not even talking about him being unlikeable or having unpopular opinions... he is a criminal and a groomer... really disappointed.
shut up
Just goes to show folks don't really care as much as they say
I don't care if the director murdered my grandma in cold blood if im interested in a movie I'm gonna see it regardless. With that said, this movie in particular I'm pretty indifferent to.
@@Austin2Sexy Thats a... really out there analogy dude. Are you okay? Do you need some professional help cause that would be a very good idea
You know there are other people in the movie who worked hard on this tho right? They can’t help that the lead actor they worked with just happened to turn out to be crazy after they filmed most of it. You can’t condemn the whole film over one person and just punish and boycott everyone’s hard work like all the people who did the little things like editing, lighting, special effects etc. separate the art from the artist. If you don’t wanna go see it that’s totally fine that’s your choice but don’t act like your above other people who are going to go see it just cus you hate 1 of the actors
Difference between Supes and Supergirl is that Supergirl was fighting with anger, while Superman had been taught to hold back his whole life.
Still not paying to see this movie.
I've got ethics and principles, and No amount of Michael Keaton Batman will get me to give money to the corporation that refuses to fire Miller nor have him arrested and imprisoned.
Majority of the people in the comments now, talking about how good the movie us, were no doubt the same ones standing firm on them not going to see this movie.... Then, they whet your appetites with the 1st trailer 😒😔
Michael Keaton was the best part of this movie real talk
Got to love they claims if the CGI looks bad, it's because "it's from Berry's POV". Lol
For those wondering how the CGI can be so bad in places, keep in mind, with how many times this movie was rewritten and reshot, the animators and VFX artists were probably just *done* with having their work constnatly get thrown out. Plus, with how much the budget and timesink got out of control for this movie, its possible that they just straight up weren't give the conditions to make this movie look better.
And that’s 100% the studio’s fault for thinking that this ATROCIOUS cgi is passable
Okay and ?? They get paid to do their fucken job. Shit looked horrendous
Or they spent their budget to sweep all of Ezras crimes under the rug.
I feel they could have used Brandon Routh like they did in Crisis on Infinity earth.... he was amazing in the Superman role
I thought for SURE we were going to see a cameo of him as well. I was disappointed in the lack of him and would have taken that over the really bad one fighting the spider.
Routh is the same Superman as Reeves
@@Lowthar1425 it’s a call back to a movie that was almost made called Superman lives. There is a doco about it on RUclips. Kevin smith wrote the script and that was supposed to be nick cage
@@syroco could have just made him the same Clark from an alternate universe
Ezra needs more credit for being his own protagonist throughout the film. I did find him annoying at times but I did like the movie
I was thinkin “ when is Joe gonna mispronounce someone’s name “
Homie said “eyedris “ ☠️
😂
When Clooney did the head shaking thing, I lost it 😂😂
I personally loved the movie, and as a huge stan for the Snyder cut I was very happy to hear them reference the events of the Justice League in a way that makes the Snyder Cut the canon version.
4/10
Michael Keaton and Sasha Calle are the best parts of the film, Ezra has always been so/so as Barry, and I'm sure they'll be recast for all the legal things they've done before the film was completed, there's just too much goddamn baggage there. You can tell Keaton slipped back into the role of Batman like putting on a glove, but why did they have to fucking kill him off? It makes no sense for the story. The whole "You taught me how to be a hero again" thing just doesn't work because he's been a hero, presumably, for almost 4 decades making Gotham City the safest place in the world, so logically he WOULD be retired and wouldn't need to be a hero anymore lol, I feel like this could have benefited with more Affleck as seeing him and Keaton team up would have been glorious and probably would have made more sense for Affleck to be the one to make the sacrifice. Calle, although only having like 10 lines of dialogue in the film, was a very good fit for Supergirl, she's super fucking hot (sorry not sorry lol) and even though she got the short end of the stick with this movie, her line delivery and conviction she brings to Kara makes me very happy and even more excited to see her headline her own solo film down the road since this film reboots from the DCEU to the DCU (after Aquaman 2 of course).
Overall the film does have a good amount of heart, but in turn some very cringe dialogue, a messy third act that completely wastes Future Flash, and terrible CGI all around. Good moments do not make a good MOVIE.
Every superman but Henry Cavil huh...
No, there is a shot of Cavil's Superman when it's showing all the other ones. He is CGI though bizarrely. But it's his face a good couple seconds of it.
George Reeves, Christopher Reeve and Nic Cage. Not many of them but I see your point.
Not every Superman. They didn't have Kirk Allen or Brandon Routh.
I would just love to see Keaton come back as Batman and Sasha come back as Supergirl. If anything comes out of this movie, I hope it's at least one of those two things.
Keaton is over 70 years old....
@@cowboywayne35 - and, outside of your ageism, so?
@@RobVespa don't be daft
Yeah, I adore Sasha Calle as Supergirl. It would be nice to see Keaton come back in a Batman Beyond movie. I think he's too old to be a believable, full time Batman. As a mentor it would be great.
@@brianbabin6333why supergirl could not be saved? Why was superman been able to defeat zod but not supergirl and what could they have done differenty to stop the invasion?
At the very least, this wasn't as dull like Black Adam or Shazam 2 and was actually enjoyable. Credit to them for putting Michael Keaton into good use, as well as Affleck.
Felt like I’m watching a real life cartoon
10/10
We had one called Flashpoint which was fantastic, this was live action that couldn’t pull off even half of what that did and looked terrible.
@@tiudesvx5400 no hate I enjoyed both but watched both with friends and family, my brain shuts off when I'm with them and enjoy anything we consume together. We treat every thing like its own thing. Never rate movies cuz I would give them all 10/10
My ass saw spider man 3 times
1 girlfriend
Second 4 friends
3 my side hoe (best friend:3 he watched it once already so me and him did it twice but we had to watch it together)
@@mariorodriguez-ws4xsyes, sometimes when you just shut your brain while watching a movie, will almost makes all movies a 10/10
@@myr7663 That is true, when you have no standards this movie can be a 10/10.
@@Tedphoenician or have what ever I have. I don’t know what it’s called but when ever I consume a book/show/movie/game I treat it like it’s own thing and nothing else existed before it or after ^_^
0.0 but I can’t find theses things myself…so a friend has to present it to me. If they have the same energy towards what they are showing me I match it :3
Eat,sleep,work me for the most part but if a friend recommends me something to watch they better bring a beer/weed/food cuz I ain’t doing it by myself.
It’s pretty stupid that the Flash honestly believes his father didn’t kill his mother and never asked himself who did kill his mother. How did Flash know that both his parents wouldn’t have ended up murdered after remembering the tomatoes?
Did yall hear, they just announced that the CGI was bad intentionally😑 IGN just posted something saying that's the reason it looked so bad, that it was meant to be looked at in the POV of the flash? 😂
That’s a nice way of saying we ran out of money and gave up
@@tiudesvx5400 🤣🤣
He was referencing the CGI in the speed force and while Flash is running. You can tell because people and object look different than the other times they CGI people when not using the Speed force. It's almost like they look like they're made of clay a little bit
Grant gustin deserves a shot at the flash in the movies with a budget of preferably more than 3$
I felt like he would have done a MUCH better job and I would not have had to sit there and hear that SUPER annoying laugh. I would have enjoyed the movie much more. I honestly thought we would see that scene from the Crisis on Infinite Earths, but from Ezra's point of view.
He should’ve at least cameo’d when the worlds/timelines were colliding. Missed opportunity
I wouldnt be surprised if he was burnt out playing that character, regardless of network/budget. He stayed for 6 seasons AFTER the show kept getting shittier season after season. I wouldnt want him being disgraced by DC's cgi either, CW was bad enough
Grant is a terrible flash.
@@tearkey1624no
I’m sorry dude but bringing dead celebrities back with cgi just for the sake of memberberries will always be disgusting.
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I enjoy the heck out of this movie! Very entertaining, the cgi didn't bother me much.
It was weird at times- but just like you, it didn't bother me at all.
Thank you!!!
Same here
Agreed
great movie 💯
Just got back from seeing this tonight. Really enjoyed it, yeah the CGI was a mess but the film itself was excellent. LOVED Supergirl, hope to see more of her in the future.
Supergirl has been depicted multiple times as having more initial experience than Superman. He usually surpasses her pretty fast but her knowing how to use her powers immediately is on point.
Also, she clearly loses, infinite times, to Zod. It’s not like they made her stronger than Superman.
The George Clooney Batman came out of nowhere for me for some reason 😂, I legit busted out laughing in the theater because I was expecting Bale.
It’s kind of confusing, but James Gunn specified that only Blue Beetle the character is being retained as the first DCU character. I take that to mean the events / story of what happens in the film won’t translate over to the new DCU just the character will. Superman Legacy is still confirmed to be the first official DCU film to kickoff the new universe.
so a criminal is allowed to make movies and stay on as one of the most popular superhero characters ever and a passionate nerd is treated like crap just for being a good guy. No way im standing anywhere near this movie
If they keep Miller, I'll be done with DC films. Like Joe I was super pissed they dropped Cavill, especially after they brought him back for a cameo. Now with the reshaping of the DCU Gunn is conviently keeping projects and cast he wants like team peacemaker and building more projects around them.... as if they were somehow beloved by fans more than Cavill & Affleck.... James Gunn has been manipulating the fan base because 1. In his DC state announcement he said the flash would reboot the DCU. 2. He also publically said that NO previous Batman actors would be returning to do Brave & the Bold. After seeing the Flash its clear that if statement #2 is to believed, then the Flash film didn't reboot/create Gunn's DCU like Gunn implied. It was the DCEU that was altered for comedic affect.
I STILL want a solo Ben Affleck Batman movie.
Also, one cameo near the end REALLY got me in the feels, ain't gonna lie. 😢 Also I thought Supergirl AND the actress was really good. 👍
That story with deathstroke will never be seen
I swear Snyder fans see an actor has said “I’m done” and still push for the project despite the actor being clearly over it.
@@firstlast9846 What i meant to say was that its a shame that the plans they set up never saw thier potential, but it is what it is and i accept it because the universe was really mishandled.
“He did a good job as The Flash”…no, NO HE DID NOT. Even if you don’t factor in his personal life, Ezra was totally miscast as Barry Allen. Absolutely awful
From Iris West... to Idris... I mean... whatever floats your boat, Joe
I think he confuses Iris with IDRIS Elba for some reason... 🤣
The CGI was bad........
Keaton will FOREVER be Batman. This movie just corroborated what I always knew. He just IS Batman. He doesn't "play him".
For me this was just a FUN ass movie! Obviously cgi was bad we get it but I didn’t even realize 2 1/2 hours passed .
The pacing was really good tbh, it flew by for me didn't feel like it was over 2 hours
It could be the best movie of all time and I still won't watch anything with Ezra Miller in it.
Well... I'd watch his trial, I guess.
Alex hit the nail right on the head with how I was feeling with this movie. It’s really all over the place and it relied heavily on Michael keaton’s Batman to keep you entertained till the end
That's why I downloaded the pirated version, watched the Batman scenes and the CGi festival at the end... that's enough, 15, 20 minutes or so of superficial entertainment from a 2 hours long movie, a 6 out of 10 is a very generous score
This movie was so terrible, they want to convince me that Barry didn't at least think to watch the crime scene from a distance so he can see the face of the killer
“I liked it because Batman” idk I really enjoyed the movie for its message about mothers and appreciating the family you love, and how hard it is to let go when it’s time. It had a pretty good story, idk wtf these guys are talking about.
-NOT enough SUPERGIRL!!
-NOT enough ZOD!!
No one is excited for supergirl lmao…
@@lazerbeamspewpew4728 Where I was watching, EVERYONE WAS! What we all were annoy was, was the other Barry character!!!
@@lazerbeamspewpew4728Why? Because anytime a female superhero shows up it's .....Woke?
@@morganyu812 no 😭… just a glimpse at what we could have had. Thank god it ain’t woke tho.. although Ezra miller is 😭😂
@@kcx1588x that’s crazy.. he over here acting like Wally West 🤣
Spoiler Alert:
Nicolas Cage as Superman is canon
It’s canon in the specific universe he exists in, yes. By your logic, George Reeves is also canon as Superman.
@@jeffn4836 This movie is shown to be a part of the current DCU, the old Reeves movies have, as of yet, not.
They really had him fight the Giant Spider…
@@functionatthejunction No, George Reeves, the black and white tv Superman. They show him in this movie as well. Is he canon?
@@jeffn4836 If they show him in a context of having literally been Superman as opposed to it being a fictional then Id have to change my mind and say yes.
Why doesn't Barry just ask Diana to use the lasso of truth to free his dad instead of messing up the universe?
The Flash (2023) was 6/10 for me.
It was just okay.
I did not see the movie (yet maybe?), but with knowledge of all the Ezra Miller stuff it must be really hard or weird to watch the movie without thinking of that
Take solace in knowing he’s probably getting recasted given the ending
Not at all.
It was extremely easy actually, I was just watching a superhero movie
most of the movie i was wondering if he was acting as Barry or he was just acting like himself 😂
@@firstlast9846no, it has been said “No plans to recast Ezra Killer”
Wait, Nicolas cage actually called you up and cried about being superman on screen? Da fuck? I always assumed "a friend" meant that you guys had the love for superman as being a friend.
If Alex says a movie is “ok” then it’s probably pretty good 🤣
Yeah this movie to me was fantastic probably one of the best superhero movies ever
@@raymondsims7042 I mean that's DEFINITELY an overreaction to the movie. It was certainly cinematic, and it was definitely good, but the CGI is GENUINELY awful, and quite a lot of the story feels fairly sloppy.
@@MessyGamer616 I never cared about cgi that much I was more so paying attention to the acting, the stakes, and the complexity of Barry’s character. Also michael Keaton was amazing, Ben aflect was good in limited screen time, and all the cool cameos from nic cage😂, George Clooney,freaking Christopher reeves!!!! And then all the emotional moments with Barry and his younger self, and Barry with his parents were brilliant. It was an amazing experience for me and the missus we loved it. It’s definitely one of the best experiences I’ve had watching a super hero movie
Respect for shouting out the Flashpooint Paradox movie. More casual fans need to be aware of it. It realizes the potential epicnness of the story and character. This current movie is still good though.
Horrific CGI! Rubber people, CGI costumes, oversized heads! How much did this movie cost?????
They replaced the Amazon Atlantean war from the Flashpoint comic with Zod’s invasion of Earth. Understandable. Maybe Gadot and Momoa weren’t available for the full movie. Would have been cool though, seeing those two worlds clash as enemies since we’ve already seen them in the other movies.
Dude the last scene with "Batman" cracked me up so hard 😅
Referring to a pedophile as a "wild card" is not something I can get behind.
I really enjoyed it,the movie teaches you a lesson that you have to accept the past and you can’t do anything to change it
Lmao you must be 12 years old.....
@@nathanwho1384 only a 12 year old would let an actors choices outside of the movie effect their view point on a piece of fiction