Allen, Alan or Alyn, you bring is the most practical reviews on the net. Your succint descriptions are attention getting gems. Tanks for the safety pointers that you 'gift' us. 👍👍
Great vid, I’ve got some very old slugs and buckshot rounds that were the old corked style. I was told years ago that the cork absorbed the moisture and kept the powder dry. I don’t know about submerging them in water but I do know that after over 45 years in an outdoor garage in the Texas heat and humidity they still fire!
Very well done, I would add silver, ash, Holy water and a job application to your glue mix and you will have protection from werewolves, wendigos, vampires and the homeless, thanks!
Theres a video by tactical hyve about flinching. Says there's 2 types of anticipation- 1 is anticipating the shot (bad one), 2nd is anticipating the recoil (good one). From what i could tell, you "flinched" after you pulled the trigger, so it was the good one of being ready for the recoil.
Bill, if you read my flinch comment you will see where I said it happens to all of us. I don’t think anyone is honestly totally void of flinching at some point. Visual flinches are more common than most when shooting moving targets like we do.
This was a welcomed video to watch. Even outside of Alaska, like here in Michigan…many deer/bear hunt with these (or very similar to them). Had me thinking with how often we are hunting in wet/snowy conditions…and at upwards of $20/5rd box for some slugs (Brenneke Black Magic)…how many people may not know if their slugs have become affected??? This is good food for thought for these slugs in the future👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼. Thanks!
Great demonstration again. I shouldn’t expect anything less from this channel. I sure hope you take the glue gun with you when you go to Kodiac. I know the big brownies seem to be less aggressive with the salmon running. It only takes one with a bad attitude to make for an emergency situation. I’d hate to see a failure be the cause of a mauling or worse. Take care and thanks for the great video.
I’m glad you did this video, I did not realize these slugs were this vulnerable to moisture. Just what you don’t want for a bear load. I know a lot of ADFG run 375 H&H or 338 what are your thoughts about those types of ammo? Certainly would be more water resistant.
Rifle cartridges should be about 100% waterproof and would be a better choice but we need to use shotguns for the less lethal hazing rounds that get used a lot more often than the lethal slugs.
"Just what you don't want for a bear load." What a joke 😂😂😂 Brenneke's have been effective bear stoppers for decades. Idk if it fails some dumb moisture test, it's right up there with the 45-70 using hardcast and .338 win mag when it comes to actually dropping charging/problem bears in documented real world situations.
I did the same thing with wax at first then used silicone caulk that I had laying around. Seems to work pretty well so far. Just use the Black Magic. It's the same slug just a bit more powder.
@@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875 your welcome really like the video's I been up to Anchorage a few times driving truck but never really got to in joy anything I need to some day and try to get drawn for a license do u still do drawings
I have to use the 870 they give me while working, also I need a shotgun to shoot the less lethal hazing rounds. Those get used a lot more often. You are right though about the 45-70, wouldn't have this problem.
I wanted to add that the big flinch is not uncommon when you are expecting something other than normal performance from your ammo or firearm. Nothing to be ashamed of. It happens to us all 🤷🏼♂️. At least you know you did it and can learn from it.
I did consider that. That is why I used craft hot glue instead of a stronger adhesive. I think it seals the powder charge without providing much more resistance than the crimp.
You didnt seal the primer. I use a mixture of gun oil mixed into melted bees wax in a very thin film pressed into the primer gaps. Forms a paste. The more wax, the firmer the paste. I apply it with a firm hair brush, lightly tapping it into the grooves, wiping the excess down but leaving a thin film over all. Thanks for the notice here though. Going into the timber it wouldnt be helpful if my bear ammo didnt fire off. Dont be cooking your ammo bud. Just dont be going there. Bad JuJu.
Thats kinda pathetic that you are issued slugs to be out in the wilderness that can't get wet. I've unintentionally left 22s and steel case 7.62x39 out side for days. Yes they were rained on. The 22s fired fine so did the 7.62x39s despite being fairly rusty. A decent slug should be more waterproof than a 22 or a cheap steel case round.
Allen, Alan or Alyn, you bring is the most practical reviews on the net. Your succint descriptions are attention getting gems. Tanks for the safety pointers that you 'gift' us. 👍👍
Thanks a lot Bruce, I appreciate it!
Chuck at Alaskan Ballistics had Brennekes fail after they were submerged. Good video and great results from the hot glue!
Thanks a lot. I remember him mentioning it before.
Great vid, I’ve got some very old slugs and buckshot rounds that were the old corked style. I was told years ago that the cork absorbed the moisture and kept the powder dry. I don’t know about submerging them in water but I do know that after over 45 years in an outdoor garage in the Texas heat and humidity they still fire!
Cool, I didn't know that. Maybe they do help with humidity.
I've never even heard of shot gun shells loaded with cork
Looks like I’m gonna run some hot glue on my shotgun shells from now on. It’s wet here in TN. 😁
It seems to be a problem unique to these slugs, it's really easy for moisture to get to the powder charge.
top tier stuff, coming from AK also, you the man!
you are correct in every way Allen... I loved the flinch...LOL.... done it many times myself.
Haha, happens to us all I guess. Thanks for watching!
I've heard nail polish can be used as a sealant around the crimp. I'd probably also look at something to seal around the primer...
I could see that being a problem, especially over long periods of time.
Sitting above a pot of boiling water doesn’t really prove much.. no ammo is ever gonna be subjected to anything close to that
Great video...missed ya for awhile..but “flinched like a big dog” still has me LMAO
Stay safe
Haha, Glad you liked it. Good to hear from you!
Yep gotta seal them up for sure !
Very well done, I would add silver, ash, Holy water and a job application to your glue mix and you will have protection from werewolves, wendigos, vampires and the homeless, thanks!
Great review, love this channel
Glad you enjoy it!
I enjoy all your programs, nice ..congrats
“I flinched like a big dog on that one” 😂😂😂😂
Haha, glad you liked that!
@@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875 honestly man, you just crack me up, I love this channel. It’s cool to see you kind of finding a rhythm here with it.
Another Super video pard , Good to know ! Stay safe 🤠👍👍
Thanks a lot Bill!
Hey brother! Met you at Fairbanks Alaska Ammo shop man keep up the great content!
It was good talking to you. Hope you enjoy your new 1911!
Theres a video by tactical hyve about flinching. Says there's 2 types of anticipation- 1 is anticipating the shot (bad one), 2nd is anticipating the recoil (good one). From what i could tell, you "flinched" after you pulled the trigger, so it was the good one of being ready for the recoil.
Years ago my dad told me to use wax any 12 gauge buckshot or slug round now I'm going to try the hot glue
Seems like I just figured out the same trick the old timers have been using this whole time.
Great video Alan and I’ve seen your dad flinch like that on a trap load so don’t let him give you any crap 😂
Thanks a lot! I didn't know he flinched sometimes haha.
Bill, if you read my flinch comment you will see where I said it happens to all of us. I don’t think anyone is honestly totally void of flinching at some point. Visual flinches are more common than most when shooting moving targets like we do.
I freaking love your videos!
Thanks Daniel!
This was a welcomed video to watch. Even outside of Alaska, like here in Michigan…many deer/bear hunt with these (or very similar to them). Had me thinking with how often we are hunting in wet/snowy conditions…and at upwards of $20/5rd box for some slugs (Brenneke Black Magic)…how many people may not know if their slugs have become affected??? This is good food for thought for these slugs in the future👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼. Thanks!
Another excellent video. Practical and useful. I’ve heard that some use wax instead of hot glue. Does that work too?
Thanks! I have never used wax but I imagine anything that seals off the powder charge without causing excess pressure would work.
I would recommend a thin coat of clear nail polish on the primer
Great demonstration again. I shouldn’t expect anything less from this channel.
I sure hope you take the glue gun with you when you go to Kodiac. I know the big brownies seem to be less aggressive with the salmon running. It only takes one with a bad attitude to make for an emergency situation. I’d hate to see a failure be the cause of a mauling or worse.
Take care and thanks for the great video.
Thanks a lot! I think I will do that.
I’m glad you did this video, I did not realize these slugs were this vulnerable to moisture. Just what you don’t want for a bear load. I know a lot of ADFG run 375 H&H or 338 what are your thoughts about those types of ammo? Certainly would be more water resistant.
Rifle cartridges should be about 100% waterproof and would be a better choice but we need to use shotguns for the less lethal hazing rounds that get used a lot more often than the lethal slugs.
@@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875 that’s a totally fair point I had not considered
"Just what you don't want for a bear load." What a joke 😂😂😂
Brenneke's have been effective bear stoppers for decades.
Idk if it fails some dumb moisture test, it's right up there with the 45-70 using hardcast and .338 win mag when it comes to actually dropping charging/problem bears in documented real world situations.
@@nickleback3695 Wow, you are a total moron
Really interesting video; thank you.
Thanks for watching!
“Big Dog Fflinch” it’s good to be humble.
Haha, happens to the best of us.
I would have thought those shells would have melted in that steam coming off of there
They seemed to hold up just fine.
They do produce different polymer blends which pour at different temperatures depending upon application
Thanks Allen, good video
Glad you enjoyed it!
Interesting torture test
Thanks!
Nice video
I did the same thing with wax at first then used silicone caulk that I had laying around. Seems to work pretty well so far. Just use the Black Magic. It's the same slug just a bit more powder.
It says defense do they think defense won't ever be in a wet or humid situation I think not. Thanks for sharing
Thanks for watching.
@@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875 your welcome really like the video's I been up to Anchorage a few times driving truck but never really got to in joy anything I need to some day and try to get drawn for a license do u still do drawings
@@hawkeye7834 Some hunts are drawing but general season hunts can be done over the counter. Some species require a guide.
@@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875 I'm going to have to look into it more caus if I do it I wanted to go for a bear that's probably a guide hunt
Thanks!
Thanks so much, it helps a lot!
Thanks for sharing. 45-70 might be safer! And your 44 or 10 mm as a back up!
I have to use the 870 they give me while working, also I need a shotgun to shoot the less lethal hazing rounds. Those get used a lot more often. You are right though about the 45-70, wouldn't have this problem.
I wanted to add that the big flinch is not uncommon when you are expecting something other than normal performance from your ammo or firearm. Nothing to be ashamed of. It happens to us all 🤷🏼♂️. At least you know you did it and can learn from it.
Thanks, I was thinking about what would happen more than the shot.
Cool all around.
Always used wax/paraffin on my shotty ammo
Brought to you by hot glue!!
I wonder if the glue affects the flight of the slug?
I was curious about that too. Didn't seem to hurt it enough to miss my 8 inch plate at 30 yards.
I agree poor customer service.
Playing with fire by putting hot glue on them...it could build up the pressure and make for an unpleasant day,,
I did consider that. That is why I used craft hot glue instead of a stronger adhesive. I think it seals the powder charge without providing much more resistance than the crimp.
You didnt seal the primer. I use a mixture of gun oil mixed into melted bees wax in a very thin film pressed into the primer gaps. Forms a paste. The more wax, the firmer the paste. I apply it with a firm hair brush, lightly tapping it into the grooves, wiping the excess down but leaving a thin film over all. Thanks for the notice here though. Going into the timber it wouldnt be helpful if my bear ammo didnt fire off.
Dont be cooking your ammo bud. Just dont be going there. Bad JuJu.
Thats kinda pathetic that you are issued slugs to be out in the wilderness that can't get wet. I've unintentionally left 22s and steel case 7.62x39 out side for days. Yes they were rained on. The 22s fired fine so did the 7.62x39s despite being fairly rusty. A decent slug should be more waterproof than a 22 or a cheap steel case round.
Rifle and handgun ammo absolutely has the advantage when it comes to being waterproof.
Special Forces?…Ha Ha🤣
Haha, they are special all right.
Special DESERT forces only. No SEALs.
@@litsci4690well the special forces are in the army whereas seal teams are in the navy