I love my LCP Max. I carry the 12 rd mags and with today's ammo technology I am confident in its stopping power. I did change the trigger to the Sigurd trigger from Precision Galloway and put in a 13 lb spring and a steel guide rod. It reduced the recoil a lot.
M*Carbo just released a trigger kit. It in essence makes the trigger about 40% lighter. I had it on my LCPII. It was great. I haven’t gone to the range since the trigger in. Cheap and takes about 20 minutes to put it in. For what it’s worth I always clean my guns before shooting them the first time. I carry mine in a DeSantis Holster with an extra mag carrying a total of 25 rounds with one in the chamber. Keep in mind a 10 round is included to make it legal in all 50 states.
A great video, and review... the Ruger LCP MAX ended up being my go to .380ACP, as I was not a fan at 1st release, but it has easily changed my mind. I love how the deep snow... muffles the report of firearms, and has a distinct resonance, and echo.
I love my LCP MAX for pocket carry. I find it interesting that the trigger acts like a double action. The slide doesn't fully cock the hammer, instead as you squeeze the trigger it finishes cocking the hammer before firing the round. I think this is one of the safety features of the gun but I could be wrong. Because of the size, weight, sights, and magazine capacity I think the MAX is the best pocket pistol out there.
@@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875 I agree 100%. the accuracy, firepower, and split times you can get from a Max is unmatched in any other 380 pocket pistol. It's really not even close.
@@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875 I put some shooting videos on my page from 7yd rapid fire out to 20 yd aimed fire against an 8x12 steel mini silhouette. I carried a firearm professionally as a PI in Philly for 20 years and I'll tell you, I this gun blows me away.
@@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875 ...actually, if you look at a cross-section X-ray drawing of the gun, the hammer IS 100% cocked before firing....BUT....the angle of the sear/hammer interface.....where they both sit against each other "cocked".....does not make for a pure 90 degree angle "ledge" between the 2 pieces. Instead, each side is slighty "angled"...such that they lock into each other a bit harder....this is good for a pocket gun that may be carried with a round in the chamber. So....when you pull on the trigger, these 2 angled surfaces force the hammer "back" just a bit more before firing, ....it rocks back and THEN releases, forcing the 2 angled surfaces to slide and dis-engage. This is a different concept than what we see in various striker designs....where maybe 60 % of the cocking is done with slide action...and the remaining 40% is done while pulling the trigger. The MAX is not like that.
@@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875 ...the hammer is 100% fully cocked with every full motion of racking the slide ( either manually or via firing). See my other detailed response . The hammer/sear surfaces where they engage....are not fully 90 degrees from one-another.....but instead, each "lip" on each piece is slightly angled...such that when they both connect...there is a slight "locking" of the 2 pieces. This is good from a safety standpoint. To prove this....just look at the backside of the slide when dry firing the gun. As you pull the trigger, the hammer rocks back....but EVER so SLIGHTLY.....before it trips. This is much different than the typical Glock style striker firing mecahnism, where (say) 60% of the striker spring is compressed by slide action...and the remaining 40% gets compressed while pulling the triggger. MAX is not like that.
Great video. You do a very good job of explaining its attributes and deficiencies. Well done. Not good about the SIG Elite dud, it's ammo I have trusted - maybe not now.
3 of us, including a shooting instructor, shot low left too. I sent it back to Ruger and they sent back a target that they fired at from 21 feet resulting with a well centered 5 shot tight group. Small guns are harder to shoot accurately, so more practice for me. One thing I don't like is that my front sight seems to be counter sunk too much and it doesn't give a good sight picture (the white rings get "shaded") sometimes in daylight conditions. Ruger did nothing about it. I've since did the Sigurd trigger, heavier recoil spring, stainless guide rod and stronger slide pin updates. The LCP Max is my daily carry. I carry a mixture of Underwood Defender, Sig V-Crown and Critical defense. Sometimes I take my GX4 with Critical Defense instead, but I like carrying the Max better. Just a note...safety glasses and thank you for the video.
What a nice video, thank you. That one Sig round was very interesting with a hard or bad primer. Brilliant to use the other LCP and cull the round out, as a bad round. I like that little LCPM and just might join you in owning one. Have a great weekend.
I tried to sight in my LC Max I had, the sites on the gun are too high I sold it because you can't change the sights out for smaller ones, I went back to my LCP custom 380 I shoot dead on with the fixed sites with just a little orange fingernail polish on the end
Great video Alan...I got Karen to watch this with me !... bonus points ...great job. I bought her M&P 380 EZ for the easier racking slide God bless us all ...good night
Love the area!! Thanks for the video-- I carried a p365 til I bought this. I still rotate it in, but this little pistol is just SO much more convenient.
It’s the rooouuunnnd!!! Also use the magazine extension or get the 12 round magazine and your group will get way better, you have chunky hands, it will help!! Get rid of the 10 round magazine, once you transfer to the 12 rounder your grip will have to start getting used to it again.
another nice video!! Really like your comentary and illustrations and comparisons, and logic!! up and coming you tube personality!! I really like my Glock 42, but wish capacity was more. thanks!
Very good review I enjoyed it and I will be subscribing as far as the LCP Max is concerned I want to buy one very badly because currently I do believe it's the best option but two things are stopping me one the trigger housing and catching my skin on it would not be fun secondly and more important it really peeves me that they only put one magazine in and charge nearly $400 for this little thing so I'm going to hang in there another 6 months and I'm betting somebody's going to make a one up after they see the popularity thanks again for the review
Very nice video. I love everything about it. I too learned the trigger and learned to hold high, and I am confident with it now. I like the trigger for safety reasons being a true pocket pistol. I think ammo issue you had there Not the lcp max
Great review. I also found it shoots low. Also, I do not like the ejector. If you do not rock the slide hard, the round will get stuck and you have to release the magazine in order to clear up the round. For example, when I slowly pull the slide in my MAX-9, the round just flies out of the gun, because the ejector is active and not passive. With LCP Max you have to really slide hard in order to recycle the round. Ran the first 50 rounds through the gun with no issues so far. Awaiting for another batch of 250 rounds in the mail to break in.
Another nice honest thorough review. I like the sights and the added capacity. Is it enough to convince me to upgrade? I think I will be adding another Ruger to my carry group. The bad Sig round was a bit concerning and surprising both. I’m glad you checked it in your tried and proven LCP. I also wanted to add that you shoot that little gun quite well. 30’ is a good distance to be grouping even that good with it. I have trouble hitting that consistent with my LCP at even 20’. Thanks Alan and take care up there.
If carrying in pocket the holster is key with the lcp2 I didn't use factory holster instead the desantis. Even with the pocket holster while working construction the magazine will release on occasion. With out the holster the mag releases often. My groups are to the left. I shot other lcp2 dead on. I wish sights could adjust. Glad to see it cycle the hollow points with no issues thanks for the video
Nice video, I tend to shoot the LCP Max low as well. I can get good groups, but typically 3" low. Tools and Target guy had the same issue of shooting low and he ended up trading it.
I don't think its a deal breaker for me, just wish they would regulate it better from the factory. Would rather have 3 inches high so I can see what I'm shooting at.
@@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875 you have to take more of your front sight. Try it with the base of the front post in the rear notch. Where top of slide and post meet.
I have had one since December of last year. It has only had about 100 rounds through it. A couple of weeks ago it was taken out of the holster and a pin was found. It was also rattling. The mag was removed and there was a loose spring in the grip. The hammer spring retention pin seats in polymer just above a plug in the bottom of the grip beside the mag. On close inspection, the polymer around the pin seating area looked pretty badly damaged. The gun was sent back to Ruger for service. The plug in the base of the grip was never removed after the gun was purchased, and it hasn't been fired that much. Perhaps the gun was not assembled properly or damaged when being assembled. It might be a good idea for others w/ the LCP Max to remove the plug and check the condition of the polymer hammer pin seating area for wear or damage.
Understand fully. Now the question......what did the opposite-side "support cut-outs" look like for the hammer spring pin? Did YOU find frame (magwell) damage on your gun that would suggest the pin can't be held properly? For reference, the pin spans both sides of the mag opening....and is held in-place by the enormous spring tension ( compression direction)...the other side of the spring is captured by the hammer spring. When you look down the magwell, the proper orientation of the spring is that it is NOT centered on the pin, but instead is "off" more to one side. Cheers.....would love to hear what you found.
Sorry to hear you are having bad luck with yours. I will keep an eye out for that. I would also recommend working with Ruger customer service, they have been great at making things right for me so far.
I love my LCP Max. It has last round lock open issues. Ruger sent 2 new magazines for free and didn't want the old ones back. I'll wait for aftermarket springs are available. I believe that's the problem. Also. If you carry it and it gets sweaty it will rust. I'm careful and sweat or condensation from it being in a kydex holster and cold caused a rather large rust spot in one day. It left a little spot in the finish but no pitting. I knew the slide finish has issues from a buddy that has a LCP 2. Still not mad at the gun.
Ruger oddly uses a "black-oxide" finish....the same as used in black drywall screws...and we all know how fast they can rust if left out. The other gun makers use a Tennifer or Nitride finish...much tougher and rust-resistant, but lots more expensive. I opted to buy the silver Cerakoted slide version of MAX......that takes care of the rust issue...and oddly....it was $20 cheaper than the regular black vesrion at the time I bought. Now.....the Cerakote version looks to cost $1 more...still a good deal.
You want a 4lb really crisp trigger on a pocket gun with no safety? No thanks! I got a LCP Max a couple weeks ago. The trigger isn't bad for what it is. It shoots great out to 7 to 10 yards. Some people will carry this in a proper IWB kydex holster and a little lighter trigger would be fine. It's marketed as a pocket pistol and the trigger it has is as light and crisp as is proper for that. I would be hesitant to carry it in jeans pockets even in a good pocket holster if the trigger on mine was any lighter than it is.
Common problem....here's the ticket.... I have FOUND what the problem is. I even sent a letter to Ruger asking if they maybe can do a slight (and EASY) redesign of the front face of the trigger...and maybe even round some sharp corners of the frame opening where the trigger passes through. Here's the note---> The plastic frame "opening" that the trigger comes through underneath the chassis, is MUCH larger than the opening of the chassis. So there is a big gap there that catches finger skin. The plastic-frame opening also has SHARP edges. The protruding edges of the top 1/3rd of the front face of the trigger itself, also has sharp edges. These edges can be rounded, and the gap can be made smaller....AND, Ruger, you ALSO can do THIS---> curve the front "face" of the actual trigger to come "up-and-forward" a bit, so a portion of the actual trigger acts as a "roof-barrier" to the large opening above in the plastic frame. A trigger design like shown here ---> Getting a Grip - Gray's Sporting Journal www.grayssportingjournal.com/getting-a-grip/ As another data point..... RUclips's Hickock45 had the same problem seen here on his vid, --->ruclips.net/video/zRY857binNI/видео.html --> see his vid his timeline 14.55 to 16.30. Rounding the edges of the plastic frame opening edges helps, I did this and it helps a lot.... but a trigger redesign with a "top-forward curve" would SOLVE the problem.
@@Bobsbargainbasement ... needs more file work followed up by fine-grit sandpaper or a scotchbrite cloth.....just round the sharp edges on the front and also the front-corners just a haiir more. Another thing you can do.....get some Talon grip tape and put it on that same upper-surface that the trigger comes through....but get the piece close to covering more of the gap hole in front of the trigger pivot. Works too. Better to do something on the gun than to depend on having tape on your finger.
My biggest problem with this gun is it's very hard to load all 10 rounds into the Mag. The best I could do was 8-9.. in the 10-round mag and 10-11 in the extended 12-round mag.
Hint.... me too....incredibly hard when new. First, use the loader...and load up fully even though you THINK it may break the mag. Then leave it loaded for at least 1-2 days.....a week would be better. Then unload / load/ unload a few times. You'll be amazed how much easier it is once the initial "Set" takes hold.
It was likely a primer problem. Even a good primer with no powder would likely have made a low-power shot or noise, or (horrors !) a squib load that leaves the bullet in the barrel. There wasn't any sound at all.....probably a bad primer.
I don't disagree. The biggest advantage to the LCP is that it can be carried at all times (beats a bigger gun left at home or in a vehicle). I go into town pretty often with only my LCP Max and I would never call someone unprepared if they had good situational awareness and a reliable 380 they knew how to use. It's the 4 legged critters I would feel unprepared for with just my LCP. That may not be a consideration in your hood but it sure is in mine.
@@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875 I can certainly understand that in Brown bear country! My brother lived in black bear country in the Pa mountains, and kept his LCP loaded with Buffalo Bore 100gr+P hard cast flat nose, in case a black bear tried to steal his pic-a-nic basket. ;D
It's not trigger slap....it's finger pinch at the top of the trigger---> Common problem....here's the ticket.... I have FOUND what the problem is. I even sent a letter to Ruger asking if they maybe can do a slight (and EASY) redesign of the front face of the trigger...and maybe even round some sharp corners of the frame opening where the trigger passes through. Here's the note---> The plastic frame "opening" that the trigger comes through underneath the chassis, is MUCH larger than the opening of the chassis. So there is a big gap there that catches finger skin. The plastic-frame opening also has SHARP edges. The protruding edges of the top 1/3rd of the front face of the trigger itself, also has sharp edges. These edges can be rounded, and the gap can be made smaller....AND, Ruger, you ALSO can do THIS---> curve the front "face" of the actual trigger to come "up-and-forward" a bit, so a portion of the actual trigger acts as a "roof-barrier" to the large opening above in the plastic frame. A trigger design like shown here ---> Getting a Grip - Gray's Sporting Journal www.grayssportingjournal.com/getting-a-grip/ As another data point..... RUclips's Hickock45 had the same problem seen here on his vid, --->ruclips.net/video/zRY857binNI/видео.html --> see his vid his timeline 14.55 to 16.30. Rounding the edges of the plastic frame opening edges helps, I did this and it helps a lot.... but a trigger redesign with a "top-forward curve" would SOLVE the problem.
Genuinely asking: Where are you going or what kind of enemies do you have that you feel a 13 shot 380 loaded with XTPs and equipped with factory night sights is not a viable primary carry weapon? I mean if you're in big bear country I could see that, but I carry mine in the most dangerous hoods in the per capita murder city in the US pretty much every day without a second's hesitation. The LCP max is incredibly easy to shoot fast and accurately.
It started to sting my hand after a while but not any more than other pocket guns. I didn't notice any pinching on the trigger finger. Sorry yours isn't treating you well.
Common problem....here's the ticket.... I have FOUND what the problem is. I even sent a letter to Ruger asking if they maybe can do a slight (and EASY) redesign of the front face of the trigger...and maybe even round some sharp corners of the frame opening where the trigger passes through. Here's the note---> The plastic frame "opening" that the trigger comes through underneath the chassis, is MUCH larger than the opening of the chassis. So there is a big gap there that catches finger skin. The plastic-frame opening also has SHARP edges. The protruding edges of the top 1/3rd of the front face of the trigger itself, also has sharp edges. These edges can be rounded, and the gap can be made smaller....AND, Ruger, you ALSO can do THIS---> curve the front "face" of the actual trigger to come "up-and-forward" a bit, so a portion of the actual trigger acts as a "roof-barrier" to the large opening above in the plastic frame. A trigger design like shown here ---> Getting a Grip - Gray's Sporting Journal www.grayssportingjournal.com/getting-a-grip/ As another data point..... RUclips's Hickock45 had the same problem seen here on his vid, --->ruclips.net/video/zRY857binNI/видео.html --> see his vid his timeline 14.55 to 16.30. Rounding the edges of the plastic frame opening edges helps, I did this and it helps a lot.... but a trigger redesign with a "top-forward curve" would SOLVE the problem.
@@inland85 ...not really solved.....the Sig P365 is a fine gun but is larger in all 3 major dimensions.....and weighs 50% more....putting it clearly in another size class of gun that is harder to pocket carry. Besides, many of us like to keep the MAX but work on the few detail issues that it still has. I offered a point of focus on these points that was missing in most other reviews. Cheers.
If any of you guys want there is a red dot plate for this gun . Kinda weird for a small gun but you have vision problems it would be worth looking into .
The whole point of this gun is to fit comfortably in the pocket. Red Dot will make this gun less pocketable. I also have vision problems and my sights are blurry when I aim, but at least I see front green sight (blurred out) and aim approximately based on it by just setting the distance of that blurred green front dot from the slide top surface. I do not see the rear sight at all. Just the front one. For me, that gun is 3 yarder for headshots and 10 yarders for center mass. I would not use it for any farther distances if there is no safe backdrop.
@@rickurban9681 Good possibilitie they're was no primer compound in it but after trying it in two guns and it still didn't work points to a bad primer.
I have a federal HST jhp that I ran through 3 firearms and never could fire. Quality control is an issue that ammo companies have failed in since the plandemic started.
I am disappointed with my max trigger is bad and it shows very low even at 10 yrds just got it back from ruger feeding issues shoots now but had to buy it again I would not.
@@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875 ... a group covered by your fist at "close-combat" range isn't all that bad. ....BTW.....very good reporting here on the MAX, better than most I've seen on YT. Cheers.
@@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875 I have the max although a little heavy which is to be expected mine is a crisp break with a short reset not mushy at all. I know the first lcp was very mushy and long reset I was told it was corrected by the lcp 2
I love my LCP Max. I carry the 12 rd mags and with today's ammo technology I am confident in its stopping power. I did change the trigger to the Sigurd trigger from Precision Galloway and put in a 13 lb spring and a steel guide rod. It reduced the recoil a lot.
Awesome! How do you like the new trigger, much improvement over factory?
@@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875 Stopped the trigger bite .
@@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875 Another vote for the Sigurd trigger. Eliminates the pinch.
I would like to see someone do a comparison between Precision Galloway and Mcaro
M*Carbo just released a trigger kit. It in essence makes the trigger about 40% lighter. I had it on my LCPII. It was great. I haven’t gone to the range since the trigger in. Cheap and takes about 20 minutes to put it in. For what it’s worth I always clean my guns before shooting them the first time. I carry mine in a DeSantis Holster with an extra mag carrying a total of 25 rounds with one in the chamber. Keep in mind a 10 round is included to make it legal in all 50 states.
A great video, and review... the Ruger LCP MAX ended up being my go to .380ACP, as I was not a fan at 1st release, but it has easily changed my mind. I love how the deep snow... muffles the report of firearms, and has a distinct resonance, and echo.
Thanks a lot, my new go to 380 also.
I love my LCP MAX for pocket carry. I find it interesting that the trigger acts like a double action. The slide doesn't fully cock the hammer, instead as you squeeze the trigger it finishes cocking the hammer before firing the round. I think this is one of the safety features of the gun but I could be wrong. Because of the size, weight, sights, and magazine capacity I think the MAX is the best pocket pistol out there.
You are spot on about the hammer. If there is a better pocket 380 I am not aware of it.
@@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875 I agree 100%. the accuracy, firepower, and split times you can get from a Max is unmatched in any other 380 pocket pistol. It's really not even close.
@@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875 I put some shooting videos on my page from 7yd rapid fire out to 20 yd aimed fire against an 8x12 steel mini silhouette. I carried a firearm professionally as a PI in Philly for 20 years and I'll tell you, I this gun blows me away.
@@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875 ...actually, if you look at a cross-section X-ray drawing of the gun, the hammer IS 100% cocked before firing....BUT....the angle of the sear/hammer interface.....where they both sit against each other "cocked".....does not make for a pure 90 degree angle "ledge" between the 2 pieces. Instead, each side is slighty "angled"...such that they lock into each other a bit harder....this is good for a pocket gun that may be carried with a round in the chamber. So....when you pull on the trigger, these 2 angled surfaces force the hammer "back" just a bit more before firing, ....it rocks back and THEN releases, forcing the 2 angled surfaces to slide and dis-engage. This is a different concept than what we see in various striker designs....where maybe 60 % of the cocking is done with slide action...and the remaining 40% is done while pulling the trigger. The MAX is not like that.
@@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875 ...the hammer is 100% fully cocked with every full motion of racking the slide ( either manually or via firing). See my other detailed response . The hammer/sear surfaces where they engage....are not fully 90 degrees from one-another.....but instead, each "lip" on each piece is slightly angled...such that when they both connect...there is a slight "locking" of the 2 pieces. This is good from a safety standpoint. To prove this....just look at the backside of the slide when dry firing the gun. As you pull the trigger, the hammer rocks back....but EVER so SLIGHTLY.....before it trips. This is much different than the typical Glock style striker firing mecahnism, where (say) 60% of the striker spring is compressed by slide action...and the remaining 40% gets compressed while pulling the triggger. MAX is not like that.
Great video. You do a very good job of explaining its attributes and deficiencies. Well done.
Not good about the SIG Elite dud, it's ammo I have trusted - maybe not now.
Thanks! That dud was concerning. I have not had many of those in my life, first time with sig ammo for sure.
3 of us, including a shooting instructor, shot low left too. I sent it back to Ruger and they sent back a target that they fired at from 21 feet resulting with a well centered 5 shot tight group. Small guns are harder to shoot accurately, so more practice for me. One thing I don't like is that my front sight seems to be counter sunk too much and it doesn't give a good sight picture (the white rings get "shaded") sometimes in daylight conditions. Ruger did nothing about it. I've since did the Sigurd trigger, heavier recoil spring, stainless guide rod and stronger slide pin updates. The LCP Max is my daily carry. I carry a mixture of Underwood Defender, Sig V-Crown and Critical defense. Sometimes I take my GX4 with Critical Defense instead, but I like carrying the Max better. Just a note...safety glasses and thank you for the video.
Really appreciate you bringing this conversation to the table. I enjoy your video style. Keep them coming.
Thanks a lot!
What a nice video, thank you. That one Sig round was very interesting with a hard or bad primer. Brilliant to use the other LCP and cull the round out, as a bad round. I like that little LCPM and just might join you in owning one. Have a great weekend.
Thanks a lot, I appreciate it!
I tried to sight in my LC Max I had, the sites on the gun are too high I sold it because you can't change the sights out for smaller ones, I went back to my LCP custom 380 I shoot dead on with the fixed sites with just a little orange fingernail polish on the end
Got all 3 lcp models, great guns for a backup very reliable
Great video Alan...I got Karen to watch this with me !... bonus points ...great job.
I bought her M&P 380 EZ for the easier racking slide
God bless us all ...good night
Thanks! Glad you both got to see it. That M&P seems like a great choice, have heard good things about them. Take care.
Love the area!!
Thanks for the video-- I carried a p365 til I bought this. I still rotate it in, but this little pistol is just SO much more convenient.
Thanks! That is the best things about these little pocket 380s. So easy to have all the time.
Great review, thanks man. Just bought my own, waiting for the feds to let me pick it up, since I live in Illinois 😂
Thanks, I appreciate it. Sorry you gotta deal with that stuff. Hope you get it soon and it treats you well.
It’s the rooouuunnnd!!! Also use the magazine extension or get the 12 round magazine and your group will get way better, you have chunky hands, it will help!! Get rid of the 10 round magazine, once you transfer to the 12 rounder your grip will have to start getting used to it again.
another nice video!! Really like your comentary and illustrations and comparisons, and logic!! up and coming you tube personality!! I really like my Glock 42, but wish capacity was more. thanks!
Thanks! I appreciate your confidence.
Good vid bro, I live in Texas and hope to visit your state soon ✌️🇺🇸
Thanks! Awesome, enjoy your trip.
Very good review I enjoyed it and I will be subscribing as far as the LCP Max is concerned I want to buy one very badly because currently I do believe it's the best option but two things are stopping me one the trigger housing and catching my skin on it would not be fun secondly and more important it really peeves me that they only put one magazine in and charge nearly $400 for this little thing so I'm going to hang in there another 6 months and I'm betting somebody's going to make a one up after they see the popularity thanks again for the review
i am happy with my lcp max. I got used to the trigger but it took a week. Great video
Thanks a lot!
XS Big Dot sights would be better for that pistol I think.
Very nice video.
I love everything about it. I too learned the trigger and learned to hold high, and I am confident with it now. I like the trigger for safety reasons being a true pocket pistol. I think ammo issue you had there Not the lcp max
Thanks for watching, Glad you liked the video.
Great review. I also found it shoots low. Also, I do not like the ejector. If you do not rock the slide hard, the round will get stuck and you have to release the magazine in order to clear up the round. For example, when I slowly pull the slide in my MAX-9, the round just flies out of the gun, because the ejector is active and not passive. With LCP Max you have to really slide hard in order to recycle the round. Ran the first 50 rounds through the gun with no issues so far. Awaiting for another batch of 250 rounds in the mail to break in.
Thanks! That's good to know. Good luck with it in the future!
Another nice honest thorough review.
I like the sights and the added capacity. Is it enough to convince me to upgrade? I think I will be adding another Ruger to my carry group.
The bad Sig round was a bit concerning and surprising both. I’m glad you checked it in your tried and proven LCP.
I also wanted to add that you shoot that little gun quite well. 30’ is a good distance to be grouping even that good with it. I have trouble hitting that consistent with my LCP at even 20’.
Thanks Alan and take care up there.
Thanks a lot, you should get one!
I'm surprised at that triple strike. Great vidio.
Thanks, dead primer I guess.
If carrying in pocket the holster is key with the lcp2 I didn't use factory holster instead the desantis. Even with the pocket holster while working construction the magazine will release on occasion. With out the holster the mag releases often. My groups are to the left. I shot other lcp2 dead on. I wish sights could adjust. Glad to see it cycle the hollow points with no issues thanks for the video
I have not had any trouble with the magazines releasing in the pocket yet. Maybe you can drift the sight in the dovetail to fix that windage issue.
@@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875 unlike the Max the lcp2 sights are unadjustable 😩
thorough as always! Good work.
Thanks!
Look up Galloway Precision,they have a trigger and spring that make this little pistol even better to shoot and more reliable.Mine has been great.
Thanks, I will check that out.
Dude, really great review 👏
Thanks for watching!
Nice video, I tend to shoot the LCP Max low as well. I can get good groups, but typically 3" low. Tools and Target guy had the same issue of shooting low and he ended up trading it.
I don't think its a deal breaker for me, just wish they would regulate it better from the factory. Would rather have 3 inches high so I can see what I'm shooting at.
@@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875 you have to take more of your front sight. Try it with the base of the front post in the rear notch. Where top of slide and post meet.
@Guns Gear & Outdoors Alaska I agree, I also prefer a 6 o'clock hold, so I'd rather the firearm shoot a few inches high vs. shooting low.
I have had one since December of last year. It has only had about 100 rounds through it. A couple of weeks ago it was taken out of the holster and a pin was found. It was also rattling. The mag was removed and there was a loose spring in the grip. The hammer spring retention pin seats in polymer just above a plug in the bottom of the grip beside the mag. On close inspection, the polymer around the pin seating area looked pretty badly damaged. The gun was sent back to Ruger for service. The plug in the base of the grip was never removed after the gun was purchased, and it hasn't been fired that much. Perhaps the gun was not assembled properly or damaged when being assembled. It might be a good idea for others w/ the LCP Max to remove the plug and check the condition of the polymer hammer pin seating area for wear or damage.
Understand fully. Now the question......what did the opposite-side "support cut-outs" look like for the hammer spring pin? Did YOU find frame (magwell) damage on your gun that would suggest the pin can't be held properly? For reference, the pin spans both sides of the mag opening....and is held in-place by the enormous spring tension ( compression direction)...the other side of the spring is captured by the hammer spring. When you look down the magwell, the proper orientation of the spring is that it is NOT centered on the pin, but instead is "off" more to one side. Cheers.....would love to hear what you found.
Sorry to hear you are having bad luck with yours. I will keep an eye out for that. I would also recommend working with Ruger customer service, they have been great at making things right for me so far.
I love my LCP Max. It has last round lock open issues. Ruger sent 2 new magazines for free and didn't want the old ones back. I'll wait for aftermarket springs are available. I believe that's the problem. Also. If you carry it and it gets sweaty it will rust. I'm careful and sweat or condensation from it being in a kydex holster and cold caused a rather large rust spot in one day. It left a little spot in the finish but no pitting. I knew the slide finish has issues from a buddy that has a LCP 2. Still not mad at the gun.
Thanks for the warning about the rust, I have not noticed any yet but its pretty dry here. I will keep an eye out.
Ruger oddly uses a "black-oxide" finish....the same as used in black drywall screws...and we all know how fast they can rust if left out. The other gun makers use a Tennifer or Nitride finish...much tougher and rust-resistant, but lots more expensive. I opted to buy the silver Cerakoted slide version of MAX......that takes care of the rust issue...and oddly....it was $20 cheaper than the regular black vesrion at the time I bought. Now.....the Cerakote version looks to cost $1 more...still a good deal.
Great review. 👍
Thanks!
You want a 4lb really crisp trigger on a pocket gun with no safety? No thanks! I got a LCP Max a couple weeks ago. The trigger isn't bad for what it is. It shoots great out to 7 to 10 yards. Some people will carry this in a proper IWB kydex holster and a little lighter trigger would be fine. It's marketed as a pocket pistol and the trigger it has is as light and crisp as is proper for that. I would be hesitant to carry it in jeans pockets even in a good pocket holster if the trigger on mine was any lighter than it is.
Great video
Great vid! Love the LCP Max! 👍👍
Thanks!
Good review , well presented and enjoyable! Subbed! Btw I get a freaking blood blister on my finger when I shoot it! 🤣
Common problem....here's the ticket.... I have FOUND what the problem is. I even sent a letter to Ruger asking if they maybe can do a slight (and EASY) redesign of the front face of the trigger...and maybe even round some sharp corners of the frame opening where the trigger passes through. Here's the note--->
The plastic frame "opening" that the trigger comes through underneath the chassis, is MUCH larger than the opening of the chassis. So there is a big gap there that catches finger skin. The plastic-frame opening also has SHARP edges. The protruding edges of the top 1/3rd of the front face of the trigger itself, also has sharp edges. These edges can be rounded, and the gap can be made smaller....AND, Ruger, you ALSO can do THIS---> curve the front "face" of the actual trigger to come "up-and-forward" a bit, so a portion of the actual trigger acts as a "roof-barrier" to the large opening above in the plastic frame. A trigger design like shown here ---> Getting a Grip - Gray's Sporting Journal
www.grayssportingjournal.com/getting-a-grip/
As another data point..... RUclips's Hickock45 had the same problem seen here on his vid, --->ruclips.net/video/zRY857binNI/видео.html
--> see his vid his timeline 14.55 to 16.30. Rounding the edges of the plastic frame opening edges helps, I did this and it helps a lot.... but a trigger redesign with a "top-forward curve" would SOLVE the problem.
Yup I did a little file work on the edges too, better but still get pinched
Now I wrap a bandaid around the tip of my finger ! 😂
@@Bobsbargainbasement ... needs more file work followed up by fine-grit sandpaper or a scotchbrite cloth.....just round the sharp edges on the front and also the front-corners just a haiir more. Another thing you can do.....get some Talon grip tape and put it on that same upper-surface that the trigger comes through....but get the piece close to covering more of the gap hole in front of the trigger pivot. Works too. Better to do something on the gun than to depend on having tape on your finger.
My biggest problem with this gun is it's very hard to load all 10 rounds into the Mag. The best I could do was 8-9.. in the 10-round mag and 10-11 in the extended 12-round mag.
Hint.... me too....incredibly hard when new. First, use the loader...and load up fully even though you THINK it may break the mag. Then leave it loaded for at least 1-2 days.....a week would be better. Then unload / load/ unload a few times. You'll be amazed how much easier it is once the initial "Set" takes hold.
Mine was not too bad but I used the tool. @Wil Ferch seems to have some good advice!
Great review. I recently purchased the same. Thank you for an honest review. I use a lot of the Sig ammo in my 9mm. Agree that was a dud round.
Surprisingly, I've had issues with Sig Ammo too!!
Thanks a lot!
Take care. Good video 👍.
Thanks a lot, you too!
Best to take the bullet apart to see if there is ny powder in the casing. That LCP Max looks nice. It will be my next pistol.
I think the primer is the problem, if there was no powder and a live primer it would push the bullet into the barrel. Had that happen once.
It was likely a primer problem. Even a good primer with no powder would likely have made a low-power shot or noise, or (horrors !) a squib load that leaves the bullet in the barrel. There wasn't any sound at all.....probably a bad primer.
I carry my LCP Max at all times. I have no qualms carrying it as a primary firearm in some of the most violent hoods in the US every day.
I don't disagree. The biggest advantage to the LCP is that it can be carried at all times (beats a bigger gun left at home or in a vehicle). I go into town pretty often with only my LCP Max and I would never call someone unprepared if they had good situational awareness and a reliable 380 they knew how to use. It's the 4 legged critters I would feel unprepared for with just my LCP. That may not be a consideration in your hood but it sure is in mine.
@@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875 I can certainly understand that in Brown bear country! My brother lived in black bear country in the Pa mountains, and kept his LCP loaded with Buffalo Bore 100gr+P hard cast flat nose, in case a black bear tried to steal his pic-a-nic basket. ;D
Great review! Ammo check too! 👍
Thanks!
Yeah the trigger is pretty pull and pray lol
Great video, good trouble shooting.
Can you make a video on your gun philosophies? Like why you think it is important to carry a gun.
Maybe so, thanks for the suggestion.
Because when seconds count....the police are only a MERE few minutes away.....
I have a lcp max and get trigger slap. Have you had this happen to you? I have put couple hundred rounds through it and it's not fun to shoot lol.
I didn't notice trigger slap specifically but it did start to sting my hands after about 100 rounds.
@@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875 the grip sleeve helps with that sting but I get trigger slap. It's not fun to shoot but serves a purpose
It's not trigger slap....it's finger pinch at the top of the trigger---> Common problem....here's the ticket.... I have FOUND what the problem is. I even sent a letter to Ruger asking if they maybe can do a slight (and EASY) redesign of the front face of the trigger...and maybe even round some sharp corners of the frame opening where the trigger passes through. Here's the note--->
The plastic frame "opening" that the trigger comes through underneath the chassis, is MUCH larger than the opening of the chassis. So there is a big gap there that catches finger skin. The plastic-frame opening also has SHARP edges. The protruding edges of the top 1/3rd of the front face of the trigger itself, also has sharp edges. These edges can be rounded, and the gap can be made smaller....AND, Ruger, you ALSO can do THIS---> curve the front "face" of the actual trigger to come "up-and-forward" a bit, so a portion of the actual trigger acts as a "roof-barrier" to the large opening above in the plastic frame. A trigger design like shown here ---> Getting a Grip - Gray's Sporting Journal
www.grayssportingjournal.com/getting-a-grip/
As another data point..... RUclips's Hickock45 had the same problem seen here on his vid, --->ruclips.net/video/zRY857binNI/видео.html
--> see his vid his timeline 14.55 to 16.30. Rounding the edges of the plastic frame opening edges helps, I did this and it helps a lot.... but a trigger redesign with a "top-forward curve" would SOLVE the problem.
Nice video thanks for not being weird
Haha, Thanks but I know some folks who would disagree with you.
@@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875 I’ll put up my mits and dance like a bear with them if they want the smoke. 😂😤
Genuinely asking: Where are you going or what kind of enemies do you have that you feel a 13 shot 380 loaded with XTPs and equipped with factory night sights is not a viable primary carry weapon?
I mean if you're in big bear country I could see that, but I carry mine in the most dangerous hoods in the per capita murder city in the US pretty much every day without a second's hesitation.
The LCP max is incredibly easy to shoot fast and accurately.
Exactly like you said, bear and moose.
@@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875 That makes perfect sense to me.
Dose the trigger not pinch your finger when you shoot it !!!! mine dose wish i would have never bought it !!!
It started to sting my hand after a while but not any more than other pocket guns. I didn't notice any pinching on the trigger finger. Sorry yours isn't treating you well.
Common problem....here's the ticket.... I have FOUND what the problem is. I even sent a letter to Ruger asking if they maybe can do a slight (and EASY) redesign of the front face of the trigger...and maybe even round some sharp corners of the frame opening where the trigger passes through. Here's the note--->
The plastic frame "opening" that the trigger comes through underneath the chassis, is MUCH larger than the opening of the chassis. So there is a big gap there that catches finger skin. The plastic-frame opening also has SHARP edges. The protruding edges of the top 1/3rd of the front face of the trigger itself, also has sharp edges. These edges can be rounded, and the gap can be made smaller....AND, Ruger, you ALSO can do THIS---> curve the front "face" of the actual trigger to come "up-and-forward" a bit, so a portion of the actual trigger acts as a "roof-barrier" to the large opening above in the plastic frame. A trigger design like shown here ---> Getting a Grip - Gray's Sporting Journal
www.grayssportingjournal.com/getting-a-grip/
As another data point..... RUclips's Hickock45 had the same problem seen here on his vid, --->ruclips.net/video/zRY857binNI/видео.html
--> see his vid his timeline 14.55 to 16.30. Rounding the edges of the plastic frame opening edges helps, I did this and it helps a lot.... but a trigger redesign with a "top-forward curve" would SOLVE the problem.
@@TheWilferch I SOLVED THE PROBLEM with the finger pinch on the Ruger LCP MAX i sold it and got a Sig 365 in 380 it is 100% better than the Ruger !!!!
@@inland85 ...not really solved.....the Sig P365 is a fine gun but is larger in all 3 major dimensions.....and weighs 50% more....putting it clearly in another size class of gun that is harder to pocket carry. Besides, many of us like to keep the MAX but work on the few detail issues that it still has. I offered a point of focus on these points that was missing in most other reviews. Cheers.
@@TheWilferch I have a pocket carry 380 it is the S&W Bodygaurd i like it wayyyy better than the Ruger !!!!
Hey Alan you are good in math 👍
Thanks, haha!
The LCP max is in a class of 1.
practice practice only gun i carry now it has a break end period unfortunately 380 ammo hard to find and costly. great carry gun…
Good to know, mine didn't need any breaking but its good to know some do. You are right about the cost of 380 ammo!
If any of you guys want there is a red dot plate for this gun . Kinda weird for a small gun but you have vision problems it would be worth looking into .
I didn't know that, thanks for sharing.
The whole point of this gun is to fit comfortably in the pocket. Red Dot will make this gun less pocketable. I also have vision problems and my sights are blurry when I aim, but at least I see front green sight (blurred out) and aim approximately based on it by just setting the distance of that blurred green front dot from the slide top surface. I do not see the rear sight at all. Just the front one. For me, that gun is 3 yarder for headshots and 10 yarders for center mass. I would not use it for any farther distances if there is no safe backdrop.
Bad primer is my guess,, Good video!
@bigolemike33, I’d have to agree on the bad primer. Either no anvil or possibly a much thicker cup. Not good either way.
@@rickurban9681 Good possibilitie they're was no primer compound in it but after trying it in two guns and it still didn't work points to a bad primer.
@@bigolemike33 definitely.
Super Duper pard 🤠👍👍
Thanks!
Recently purchased one and I agree, the trigger is not that good. For what I need it for, it will be ok
You hit the nail on the head.
I had a 45 acp Remington Golden Saber round that wouldnt fire.
It's concerning when it happens to premium defensive ammo.
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I have a federal HST jhp that I ran through 3 firearms and never could fire. Quality control is an issue that ammo companies have failed in since the plandemic started.
I can imagine they are getting the stuff out the door as fast as possible.
I run Critical Defense, Precision One and Speer Gold Dots and have never had a failure.
You need to keep that one round and use it as a snap cap for when you're inside your home .
Haha, I think I will pass. May decide to work when I don't want it too.
@@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875 haha jk
I am disappointed with my max trigger is bad and it shows very low even at 10 yrds just got it back from ruger feeding issues shoots now but had to buy it again I would not.
Sorry you had such bad luck with yours, thanks for sharing on here.
Put more rounds through it. Mine improved
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Actually, that first grouping wasn't all that bad.......
Maybe I was expecting a bit too much with the little pocket gun, thanks for the encouragement.
@@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875 ... a group covered by your fist at "close-combat" range isn't all that bad. ....BTW.....very good reporting here on the MAX, better than most I've seen on YT. Cheers.
Carry gun no safety it’s going to have a heavy trigger
Its not really they weight of the trigger that bothers me. Just the mushy break and long reset.
@@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875 I have the max although a little heavy which is to be expected mine is a crisp break with a short reset not mushy at all. I know the first lcp was very mushy and long reset I was told it was corrected by the lcp 2
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