Best Budget Yoke for Flight Simulator 2020 | Hands on Review (+BIG FLIGHT SIMULATOR 2020 GIVEAWAY!)
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- Опубликовано: 7 авг 2020
- Whats up everyone! Welcome to another video, today we are comparing my Saitek yoke and Honeycomb yoke as well as a few other of my controls.
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You said you can order the throttle for about $70, this is false info. The throttle is $250 and the $70 is addons to the $250 throttle.
Other then that great review, I appreciate it. I will subscribe to hopefully get good content like this in the future.
Gaming With Fusion I was talking about the saitek throttle, I mentioned in the beginning of the video that the honeycomb throttle is not released yet and I hope it comes out in a month or 2.
Gaming With Fusion I know my wording wasn’t the best so apologize for that but I did mean the saitek throttle. I’m aware the honeycomb throttle will be $250 since I have it on pre order
@@mateo1994 Yeah, I got confused I bit then and probably could of tried to re-wind and listen better. I will accept my mistake of listening to that. I appreciate the quick response, and I will tune into the channel more often. I hope you enjoy this month because I myself know I will with MFS2020.
I definitely think that 180 degrees of motion is super important as with flying the smallest inputs make the biggest difference. IMO if you’re thinking about getting the saitek system, wait. Save your money a little longer and grab the honeycomb. 100% will not regret it.
I want Flight Simulator 2020 because I'm fascinated by and passionate towards flying. Unfortunately, due to my financial condition, I haven't been able to pursue a career in flying in real life. I have always wanted to get into flight simulators but this game has increased my interest because it is so beautiful. I really want it so that I can experience flying in at least a simulation that is so close to reality.
I hope you get to where you're going in life bro.
Just bought an Xbox today for it hopefully see u in the skies
Can you review rudder pedals next, the style of the review is quite good
I am instructor. If you can afford TPR by Thrustmaster at $500 then they are the best non-forcefeedback pedals. IMO they are better than Redbird or Ruddo that are in the same "all metal" class. The rest are the plastic class. If you are serious about RWS then you "get what you pay for"'. If you are simply a entertainment flight simmer then perhaps cheaper is better.
Check out my new rudder video! When I get more in my hands to test I’ll release more but I dropped a video showing the cheap thrust master and Logitech rudders
Shame I had to get the Saitek yoke 1 year ago, i was on a tight budget like you pointed out in the video about the little resistance of the Saitek and the feel of the yoke with a deadzone, I decided to open mines and place two rubber bands, this increased the resistance ever so slightly and removed the deadzone making the yoke feel more realistic, the honeycomb definitely looks better, might purchase later in the future when I get more funds, video quality is definitely improving, keep it up
I've got my Honeycomb yoke on the way along with Thrustmaster pedals and Hotas X just to give me a basic throttle until the Bravo comes out. Cannot wait for next week XD
The channel is growing fast man! Great job with the review, I like the feel and realism with the honeycomb yoke. The airbus side stick from Thrustmaster looks like a great addition for flights with the airbus aircraft. So excited for the sim to come out and can’t wait to see the channel to keep growing once you get your hands on fs2020! Good luck to all of us in the drawings!
I am instructor and use Honeycomb. The stiff spring for pitch is fantastic because it gives more "feel" to trimming. Could be a bit stiff for kids tho. "Handedness" is important in RWS. The ignition should be used by left hand(and be placed by the switches on left) as it is in most small aircraft. They should have included fuel pump and pitot switch near the light switches. Minor issues!
The built in aileron roll "delay" (as opposed to "twitchy" fast joysticks designed for gaming) is fantastic. This gives a realistic lag to control inputs. Great yoke for $250.
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This was the first video I watched from you and the quality is amazing already! Keep it up dude!
Just recently got the honey comb, the build quality is nuts, I have no idea how they run a profit on that because for 250 it looks like something one would pay 500-700 for
THANK YOU. What a great review... no fluff just short, sweet, and to the point with a clear demonstration of your recommendation. Got my heart set on the Honeycomb now.
You won’t be sorry! Thank you for watching!
Wew this channel is really growing a lot! And also I wanted to buy honeycomb but it's too expensive in my country (1.2k myr) but Logitech yoke is not my type. So imma just save my money from now on 😌
Thanks for helping me pick out a yoke. I'm a beginner but I really like the look and feel of the honeycomb.
To blind to really fly but my heart beats for a realistic sim honeycomb sold me out awesome.
I subscribed after your PC build video, I think you are one of the few that actually broke down exactly what you got, explained why and showed us the build, so thank you for that. As someone who doesn’t know a dang thing about computers and watching many professionals explain and build, I was left confused a bit. Thank you for keeping it simple!
Great video. I am looking into getting a new yoke for when the Microsoft Flight Sim comes out and this was really helpful.
Great content as always dude! Your channel is growing very fast. I hope you can also review the different sidesticks available in the market. 😊
Watching from the Philiplines! 🇵🇭
Glad to see your channel growing fast. I enjoyed the straight to the point comparison between these two as I'm looking at picking up flight sim again upon release and currently looking at getting a yoke. The Honeycomb definitely looks the better out of the two. I'll look at picking this up in the near future. Thanks for the comparison!
Honestly, the quality of your videos are phenomenal. Great job.
I ve never tried a Yoke. I normaly use my HOTAS Warthog, highly recommended to
Even more copies to give away?! That's awesome man, thank you very much!
I have always used an XBox 360 controller for flight simulation, but now I am looking for an upgrade. This review has been very helpful! Would you guys recommend buying a yoke or a joystick? And why?
Yoke if you want a simulation and you can pair it with a cheaper joystick if you feel like flying Airbus realistically, something like the Thrustmaster T.16000M sidestick, or if you do more combat flight games then a more expensive sidestick (joystick) combo like the Thrustmaster Warthog Hotas combo. I personally am going to go for the HoneyComb yoke & throttle and possibly get the T.16000M or something like the airbus edition of the T.16000M sidestick.
@@GamingWithFusion You have been very clear. Thank you!
@@paolocagliero8590 Glad you think so, flight is making a comeback for me and I am under the same circumstance so it's easier to get straight to the point of what the user will enjoy more.
OK. First off, the Honeycomb is a good yoke, far better than the Saitek but it has flaws. I even tried to get some reaction from Honeycomb to my issue but no reply was forthcoming, nada. That's not very polite so I set out to find my own solution. The issue is that the pitch control, during fine movements in the flare, is slightly jerky, or sticky but definitely not smooth. This is a real shame because they already have the solution partially licked by using linear bearings on the double rail guide mechanism under the hood. They strangely proceed to use a nylon bush to guide the yokes spindle and I discovered that this is where the stickiness comes from. As an engineer, and always trying to improve a product already on the market, I dismantled the yoke and removed the spindle boss that the shaft of the yoke runs through. I removed the nylon bush and replaced it with a linear bearing after a little turning and reworking and it has transformed the yoke. No more jerky, sticky resistance to contend with. These linear bearings are SO cheap, under £10 for 12 number, linear bearings !! They out perform the nylon bush by miles. I fly a real world GA aeroplane and don't expect a jerky action and now my Honeycomb yoke copies the feel more accurately. I would urge Honeycomb to make this improvement in manufacture. It will not be an expensive thing to do. I'd be quite happy to convert the yokes of anyone interested in making this undoubted improvement to their simulator experience. I'd also be happy to talk to Honeycomb as well, if they are interested in improving their product. Ps. I also have a mod to increase the roll resistance. These methods would invalidate the warranty but, personally, I would prefer a more accurate simulation experience.
That's very interesting, thank you for your comment on this! How easy would it be for a non-engineer to change out? Is it something you could create a video demonstrating how it's done?
I think that'd be an interesting idea for a niche channel if you were looking, taking products like these and applying your engineering knowledge to do a takedown while offering tips on which parts to swap out for better performance/longevity
I'm a sim-only pilot, so maybe I don't know any better. Still, I would be happy to change the calibration curve in the sim. It's simple enough to dampen a +/- 45-degree yoke for less amplification near the center. (How often does anyone use more than 45 degrees of input on an aircraft, anyway?) And yet, Saitek/Logitech have done worse than limit the range of motion. You missed it in your review, but they coded a 5-degree dead zone into EACH SIDE of the center. This covers a little more than that un-tensioned shakey zone in the middle. They rob you of 10 degrees of motion and then penalize you with a 10-degree span that does nothing, right in the middle of the movement. This dead zone is LOCKED INTO UNSERVICEABLE FIRMWARE BY THE FACTORY. They claim it's a feature, not a bug. (I'm waiting on tech support, but I've already started on a mission to point out this unacceptable "feature" wherever I can.)
I will be returning my recently purchased yoke system and switch panel (pending the results of my inquiry with tech support) to get a Honeycomb combo. To come close to the Honeycomb Alpha and Beta with Saitek gear, you need the yoke/throttle system, an extra USB throttle, and the Switch and AP panels. You will have saved about $30 (at today's prices, individual Saitek items vs. bundled Honeycomb) and have a LESS configurable system with a terrible yoke. (Though, the AP display would be handy.) The Saitek panels require a proprietary plug-in. The functions in that plug-in are locked in at whatever Saitek thinks they should be. You cannot, for example, assign an unused cowl-flap switch to a secondary avionics bus or an unused De-ice switch to carb heat. (I'm not sure about reconfiguring the labeled Honeycomb switches, but their throttle includes several programmable switches.)
The radio panel is AMAZING for tuning radios, but it has limitations too. In DME mode, you are locked in to Nav1. DME also only uses one side of the display for data (the distance.) The other side freezes with, I think it's the Nav frequency, but it doesn't change when you change the Nav. The right-hand display becomes useless random numbers instead of the speed or time. They could have used the Swap key to switch between sources. They could even get it to "Hold" if they were clever. Maddeningly, the only "updates" they are interested in are repacking the drivers/plug-ins, so they install on Windows newer than 98.
The saitek switch panel is not supported atleast i cant get it to work....
Hey brother, what is your recommendation for an affordable chair with a support for the yoke. I want something I can put in front of the TV then move into a corner when I'm done. Any thoughts? Thanks!
Nice video. Your review was nice and clear. Congratulations on 1k subscribers! It is really growing fast.
Thanks for the review, I will be getting honeycomb alpha for my son tonight based on your review 👍💪
Great choice! He will love it!
Subscribed after the first time I saw your video about your PC build. I have ordered parts already and precisely building a PC so that I can run FS20. Thanks for the great content!
Great video. I have the Logitech Yoke and Throttle. I very rarely use the yoke. I usually use my Thrustmaster airbus joystick even if I'm in a yoke aircraft.
The Logitech Saitek yoke's material and motion just feel so cheap. The range of motion does bother me too. I'd love to try a Honeycomb before buying one. Maybe I'm just not a yoke guy..?
This was actually a really great comparison. Super job! Still hoping to win the giveaway haha 😁
Guess what brotha! you won yourself a copy of Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 deluxe edition! I will post the video tonight. Please email me at planetflightsim@gmail.com
This was another great post, cheers. Now I know which one to buy. Looking forward to the nice one......oh gratz on the channel!
Hi bro I am following you since the first day. Congrats for the 1k subscribers keep going
D.A.S 07 thanks so much for being an OG man! Can’t wait to take this journey with you guys
Great comparison, was looking to pull the trigger on the Logitech as a first yoke and moving away from the joystick
Nice short and to the point, good job. Right now I can't afford them because I had to buy new hardware for my pc so I can run MFS2020 but I will consider both yokes in the future.
During covid, toilet paper was hard to get.
When msfs2020 came out, yokes were hard to get.
This guy has such a deep voice.
Hey great video good review on both. You are growing real fast congrats on that. Can't wait on the 18 to see your first play. See you in the next vid
Great content. Used the Saitek yoke for years and want never really happy with it. Going to upgrade to the honeycomb in the very near future.
I have a CH Products Flight Sim Yoke, and I had to manually map all the controls for FS2020. Alongside that, the toe brakes, throttle, and mixture controls don't work. Toe brakes just flat out aren't there, even though you see them go down in the sim. With the throttle and Mixture, they need to be completely maxed out before they actually give input. There is not 20, 30, 40 50, etc. throttle control, it's 0 or 100%. I'm going to have to get one of these since I know Flight Sim automatically recognizes them.
Poor student wants free stuff and looks at stuff he can't afford...
12th subscriber and I’m from the uk love to see ur channel grow have fun with it and keep the grind growing. I want to build a set up so I’m grinding at the back of my pub till I get enough money (14 yrs) to build one.
You are a true og man! Thank you so much for the support man. I’m going back to old comments and realizing I missed some amazing comments. Keep grinding and the hard work will pay off. I’ll be having another round of giveaways so stay tuned! Thank you so much for the support once again
Great video and so detailed. I'm really enjoying the series and look forward to next week.
Alexei Yukna thanks so much man! 5 more days!
Video was very informative and gave me a good idea what to look for. I've just started looking for flight controls for flight simulation and this video was a great help.
I did purchase the Honey Comb Alpha Yoke, & did pre-order the Bravo Throttle Quadrant. Hopefully they can release the Quadrant next month.
Zian Uchiha Im hoping for that as well!
Great video! I've been looking for a yoke comparison between the two you've shown and this confirms my choice even more to go for the Honeycomb. I look forward to a review on the Bravo throttle quadrant whenever it releases. :)
I own the Saitek (Logitech) one and it does the job for me. Definitely would have bought the Honeycomb if it were available years ago.
Thanks for this video. I've just started looking for flight controls so this was a great help. Can't wait for more videos.
It’s really satisfying to watch people with a whole set up! Bring more reviews of flight sim hawdware!
Excellent comparison-helped me out. Im going to be brand new to this, and want to home build my own cockpit.
I discovered honeycomb just today and I can't wait to get my hands on one! They look amazing and must feel great to fly.
D-Doom33 for the price it’s an amazing yoke, you won’t be sorry
Me: Oh my god. I feel so old with the Saitek Yoke.
Also Me: Searches on Amazon, Saitek Yoke is out of stock. Who's your daddy now?!
really enjoyed the video,, just bought honeywell yoke but confused on driver downloads for msfs2020
I have a question: how many USB ports will the yoke and quadrant and rudder pedals use ? can they be linked so as to only use 1?
Yeah that’s what I do! I have a usb adapter with 4-1 usb so they all just use one spot on my laptop, just plug everything into the adapter
I got the Logitech yoke, pedals, and throttle for 150 on an eBay bid. Usually $340 for them.
I’m broke. Going with the Saitek is all I can do rn. And now that I’m starting airline pilot academy with ATP, I’m pinching every penny I have so I can pay my tuition. But damn I would definitely have bought the Honeycomb if I had the money. Oh well, at least this will easily let me plug my other Logitech peripherals I have for DCS.
Exactly what im doing. Either way, saitek yoke will make the experience on sims a little more realistic, and to be honest, no one has much reason to use more than 45% of rotation (although its stupid as hell same with the deadzone). We'll be flying real planes soon anyway lol
@@StreagleEagle I tried so hard to tweak the settings and get used to the dumb dead zone and curves but I just couldn’t. It’s so bad. I gave up on using it, so I’m biding my time until I can get a better yoke.
Great video. New subscriber here from Sweden. So excited for the new MS Flight Sim. Transitioning from joystick/keyboard to yoke. Thanks for highlighting Honeycombe.
Honeycomb yoke all the way! Don't save that extra cash you would when buying the Saitek spend it on the Honeycomb which is really superb in terms of build quality and accuracy! I have combined it though with the Saitek/Logitech products a Throttle quadrant, radio stack and autopilot board (which includes a flap-switch) I built that stuff onto a simple wooden board but the Saitek/Logitech stuff can also be mounted on top of the Honeycomb (yes the mounting is 100% compatible with it) However you need to lift your monitor way up in order to look over the stack, not the most realistic imho.
Thanks man. That really helped me as just browsing across Amazon isn't as informative.
I’m glad man! If you have any questions let me know!
Helped me a lot. looking forward to your next video
How do you use swiveling "Office/Gaming" chair? Not good for flight simming with stiff pitch and rudders.
Honeycomb ecosystem. Honeycomb Alpha Yoke, Bravo Throttle, and Charlie Pedals.
Patiently waiting for the honeycomb bravo throttle! I have it pre-ordered I really hope it comes out in the next month or two
The Videos Is getting better by the day , keep going bro
Thanks Mate! been looking for Flight Yokes!
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This was great info.I do have the Logitech yoke but what I see the Honeycone looks awesome
How can u use rudders without buying pedals? Cab they be programmed to one of the buttons on the yoke?
It would be awesome if, after the FS2020 finally releases, you compare the different addons that will eventually come out so we can make a more informed purchase. Cheers! Keep it up!
I am definitely getting the HoneyComb yoke & throttle, so I gotta save for a few months. But in the end it will be worth it. $500 is expensive for a flight sim setup though when I could get a good PC combo for lots of that money I will spend.
Gaming With Fusion it will be worth it! If the throttle is anything like the yoke, then I know it will be amazing!
What is interesting is that for someone like me, who has used sticks since the 90's and never used a Yoke, i often see that 45deg bashed, but i think it still gives slightly more roll controll then what a stick does?
It’s really hard to compare the 2 that’s why I try to stick to using joysticks on stick planes and yoke on yoke planes. Each joystick is different but as you can see the Logitech yoke just isn’t able to match that real world feel
Does the honeycomb yoke work on xbox
Dude, great comparison. Honeycomb seems
to be the winner for me.
I'm using a Xbox controller, tried to use my wheel, but the pitch is missing, maybe I will try to make a DIY alternative for the pitch.
Great review! Was on the fence for the saitek, but I think the honeycomb is the way to go !
I missed out on the honeycomb bought the saitek one instead. If I don't like it I'll return it and get the honeycomb if it gets back in stock soon
yo bro hows it going, this channel is on 🔥. There are few videos on throttles, so thank you for uploading this👍👍
Whats up man! thank you so much, what did you think of the video??? Hope it helped!
Planet FlightSim very good and quick, what i think everyone likes, thanks.
I’d love to get a yoke for the new flight sim. Great video man!
Very good review all the best with your channel 👌🏼
Great video man. Very good content, i like it !
I’ve been using a flight hotas for a couple years and wanted to upgrade just got a job and finally can afford it
Great comparison for those who are new to flight controls such as myself.
I'm really liking the Honeycomb products the more i hear about them. All I have is a cheaper joystick so maybe when the Honeycomb throttle releases a can get both. I love that is has switches on them, that's a plus for sure.
What's a good set of rudder pedals for the first time user on a budget? Seem like the Thrustmaster TFRP is kinda the only choice.
Yeah the honeycomb products are amazing, super excited for the throttle whenever is finally comes out. And for the rudder pedals that’s the ones I use and I have no complaints about them but I haven’t tried many others so I don’t have much to compare it too
Nice yoke and good video, keep it up. Maybe a look at the Thrustmaster TCA stuff in the future would be good. Thanks.
From a logitech owner to now owning Honeycomb, there is NO COMPARISON between them. Honeycomb is like a Mercedes Benz E Class and the logitech is like a Daihatsu Charade.
Thank you! People don’t think so but the moment you feel both of them, the honeycomb is the clear winner
Thank you so much for the information ...but would you be able to tell me if they gonna be working with Xbox series x ..on Microsoft flight simulator.coming out ?
I spent upwards of $2000 on all of the Logitech panels, but it Logitech hasn’t made drivers for it yet. What do you suggest to do? Should I download spad.next?
So far the people that have used spad.next tell me it’s extremely glitchy and barely working with that app. I’m sure a free plugin will be added soon so I would personally wait on that, just based on the negative feedback I’ve heard about the spad.next paid fix
@@mateo1994 thank you for the feedback. Great Vid👍🏻
A video idea, do a flight long or short, at night, have a camera so we can see you using the yoke, the throttle quadrant, radio, etc, and have it dark in your room is well, so we get a really nice vibe, could be a mad video👀👍
Aryan Bajaj that sounds like an awesome idea but I might need a better camera for low light conditions. I’ll definitely try it tho! I’m working on getting some nice GoPros so we can have multiple angles on the controls
Planet FlightSim sweet🤙🏻
I am going to get both the Alpha and Bravo from Honeycomb. They have announced the Charlie rudder pedals but the information on them is limited.
Man, you are quick! I like it! What Rudders do you recommend? I plan on getting HC with the Logitech/Saiteck Throttle rn for the time being!
EDIT: Holy smokes you too off in subs since last time I commented lol! Awesome!
Does the Saitek/Logitech Yoke work with the Honeycomb Bravo throttle?
Yes it will! Everything is backwards compatible and you set it all up individually in the simulator
Awesome work man!!👍
I have a rich friend, when i asked him how much is a yoke, his reply was "oh 40,000 inr only" .... Felt like a luxury product ever since
Great channel good luck, I noticed an Avianca poster, I am building an Avianca airliner RC plane. Stay safe and keep the content coming.
I really hope to win the giveaway because I don't even have a yoke, which by itself would be awesome already... probably I am not winning due to the fact of way more incredible stories than mine... So congrats to you, and all people who entered and thanks for giving this opportunity.
Sure it’s great for a cessna but what about flying A320? A joystick makes more sense doesn’t it?
M V I’m personally not an airbus guy. I prefer the yoke I only use stick for Bush flying and light aircraft. This was a yoke review not a joystick review
M V but yes if you wanna fly a airbus I would use a stick if you want to be realistic
Planet FlightSim Correct. Good review btw
Congrats on your channel growth mate! That's awesome! 😉👍
Now, how did you get the panels to work with fs2020? 😳 Mine are not registered by the sim.
I can't be the only one who thinks $250 is a steal for a bunch of buttons and a non force feedback yoke. That's not even including rudder pedals or a throttle...
Bear in mind I got my Logitech G920 (Ik it's a racing wheel and not a yoke) for $300 and it comes with pedals...
Seeing the eyewatering price for the honeycomb throttles I currently use saitek pedals, throttle and trim wheel (all usb) and seem to get a great feel of vfr with my rift s. ATM running x-plane in vr with the orbx uk south and central so as long as I can find the throttle and trim, it is going great! Vr presents its own issues so am looking into ways to track the physical with reality so if you have any ideas such as vr tracked fingertips and control locators I'd be really grateful. Thanks for the great comparison - subbed!
Looking forward to this sim and love your content! Keep it up!
The 70$ are just the Airbus Pack that you can add to the 250$ Honeycomb Throttle
Afffe Pizzakatze i was talking about the saitek throttle. To get the same thing as the saitek set up it would be 70 dollars added to the honeycomb yoke for the saitek quadrant. I should have worded my self better. I’ve had the honeycomb throttle preordered For months I’m aware it’s $250
I was thinking of buying the saitek. Thanks for your review
Instead of the saitek radio panel, I would look seriously at AIR MANAGER/Knobster/Touchscreen. This way you can use GNS430/530 G1000, many different flight deck configs. Twisting frequencies with a mouse is not an option for RWS, Vatsim, or Pilotedge.