I bought the r10 back in April as my first more serious camera and I've found it incredible, for videography too using a gimbal. Planning to get an r6 or something like so by 2024.
Tbh I am considering buying a camera, but sadly all that Canon offers is hot garbage, r7 has no buffer at all and everything looks sharper than it, the R6MII cant record while plug-in HDMI one or other, and the R8 has no IBIS and garbage battery, and only r5 and higher that can be used as an upgrade from 2018 R camera crazy how 6 years and still the whole R series are step down from the R $2,300 MSRP except off $3900 R5 and $4300 R5MII, inflation is crazy… and Canon are behind in the market so bad … (it is just my opinion)
I have a Canon R6 and I love it! And for those who say "you cant shoot landscapes because the megapixels are too small" are just being snobby, you can shoot anything with anything.
I decided to buy the RP because this is my first mirrorless camera and I didn't want to invest too much if I don't like it. Also, I can use my EF lenses with the adapter. I wanted the R6 but it's a little steep right now. Anything above the R6 seems like they are more for pros and serious amateurs.
By the way, the EF-R adapter works great! I adapted an older 400MM f/5.6 to a friend's R6 and it worked flawlessly! So if you've already got EF glass then just adapt it and you'll be fine.
I love the adapter... I have an R6 and RP, and the only RF glass I own is the kit lens that came with my RP. I shot an airshow this past weekend with the R6 and an adapted Sigma 150-600 C and got some amazing shots.
I purchased the ef/rf nd filter adaptor considering I do outdoor stuff quite often and I had ef glass prior to buying an r6. I loving the results, system works great for me
R10 or RP. Or 5D Mark 4, 6D mark 2 or 90D. Add a flash, and 3 quality lenses (walk around, tele, portrait). 2000 dollars and you’re completely set. Many choices possible - I’ve been in the Canon ecosystem since the 450D and have always been happy. I’ve built up my gear over the years, and I’m currently on R5 with RF 28-70, EF 70-300, RF 35 and EF 16-35. My system is complete!
The cost of the camera you want is only part of the story, canon bodies are not cheap but n a par for equally specified other makes. Select a camera body based on features you use most often and image quality you need, the prices are almost linear based on these criteria. But lenses are a whole different matter. Canon RF mount lenses are expensive. Third party lenses offer usually much more bang for the buck but here is the rub, Canon won't allow third parties to make and sell RF mount glass. So my advice would be that unless you have a compelling reason to need some obscure feature only Canon cameras can offer then I would chose Sony or Nikon as your base body and then you have access to hundreds of top quality lenses at reasonable prices as well as second hand. Your camera bag can be a cornucopia of great glass for the price of just one Canon RF L series lens.
@@SonOfInfernum I did but it doesn't help with the Sigma 150-600 C lens... the adapter works but the lens has autofocusing issues. I have not seen adverse reports on other EF third party lenses yet but they may exist. Generally the EF Canon Lenses are superseded by the RF equivalent lens which are better so reviews suggest.
As Maxime said... just go EF RF adapter Did you get the 150-600 before or after the EOS R system? If you had it already... sure, thats annoying, but if you bought it after the camera....its totally your fault, especially if it was known already in the community. I dont see this problem as a huge dealbreaker.... just remap any button to AF-C/AF-S switching and go as good as possible for AF-S when its also just ok. I am using the RP and rely very much on AF-S in wildilfe because 5 fps is slow enough, i dont want like 2,5-3,5 fps because i need AF-C. Also since the RP doesnt have any animal detect thats pretty much im limited to. I just got a RF 800 F11 instead of the 150-600 sigma, i really struggled with this decision since i knew from the beginning i will rely a lot on AF-S anyways but for flying and moving birds i just needed reliable AF-C if i use it. I think the RF 800 and RF 600 F11 pretty much show: RF glass can be affordable, in fact even super affordable for its performance. Just some other examples you may know: RF 50mm 1.8 RF 85mm 1.8 RF 35mm 1.8 IS RF 24-105 non-L But yeah, I also try to avoid RF glass - the camera is just a charme with as much used as possible with the Meike RF EF filter adapter on it - just always protected sensor and all needed filters for EVERY EF lens! I got once a EF 100mm 2.8L Macro with broken stabilizer super cheap, repaired it and well, even if the stabilizer would have been unrepairable- Just SUPER VALUE! The thing is i guess... just use CANON (!!!) EF glass if possible, except for a super garbage lens (EF 75-300 IS USM) all my EF lenses perform better on mirrorless than they did on the DSLR! I cant really say much about 3rd party EF lenses AF performance since basically all my 3rd party EF gear is just manual focus, a telescope or has from the beginning trashy AF which im fine that it works at all on mirrorless.
@@harrison00xXx Great comprehensive comment, thanks. I had the 150 to 600 to use with my 5D mk IV before I got the R5... that's why I'm miffed about it. I have other rf glass but not the L series. I smile too 😊 as I have the 70 to 300 USM EF lens.... I found it was great focusing, very quick, but above 200mm it went off so my attempts at close ups of birds on say the opposite river bank were frankly unusable... but don't tell anyone as I hope to sell it on eBay. I bought the excellent 150 to 600 Sigma to replace the 70 to 300 USM. Oh well. Sony looks good but the rear tilt screen is pointless and a pain. (I had two A390 Sonys that also had annoying flip screens) Sony could advance if they had a flip twist out screen like Canons.
Still shooting every video for both my RUclips channels with my beloved Canon EOS R, which I bought the day it was released. Even gave up both my GH5 and my Sony A7iii for the switch and I couldnt be happier!!! Currently selling my Sony ZV1 to purchase the R10 for a vlogging and B cam! Great comparison vid as always guys!
Hey, i really like the review. It sums up all the options well. But there should be a big disclaimer, that none of the cameras should be recommended as budget option. None of the canon cameras has acces to modern & affordable third party lenses. So even if you buy a R10 for 1k for wildlife you will need another 3k for the rf 100-500. I just startet photography a year ago with the R6 and I am really happy with the camera itself. But i will not recommend it to anyone who is on a budget under 10k. Just the trinity itself without a camera is roughly 8-9k (Sigma or Tamron around 3k for the E-mount).
@@clueless3891 absolutly true. I own the Tamron 150-600 G2, which is pretty much the same and in many situations a decent solution. But the problem is the af, that just works unreliable. And then there is no point to buy the latest mirrorless body with amazing af when it is just working in 80% and 20% starts pumping and produces errors. Just returned from 20 day Safari and missed quite some animals/scenes due to the problems with the af. So the wild dogs and 2 leopards are just on the 6 year old bridge camera of my dad. In other situations where you get a 2. chance it is no problem at all.
I personally (professionally) use an EF 100-400 mk 2 over the RF 100-500 because EF @ 400 is 5.6. RF @ 400 is 6.3. It's not AS sharp, but the color and light are a step better on the R5. That being said, the 100-400 RF is still a great lens and only $600. A few YTbers have used it for capturing birds in flight and have said it keeps up enough. I wouldn't expect it to be as battle ready and rugged as the L series glass, but it'll get the job done for under $1k
You have a point LOL. They are not ALL $6000 though. Also, there are a lot of cashed-up people around these days, who just spend money on new hobbies hoping that'll make them good at whatever... Let them I say. It floods the market with cheaper second-hand gear when they give up 6mnths later. Which is great for you and me ;P@@P.E.J.
My first camera was a SONY Cybershot 5 mega pixels. Had a number of higher resolution point and shoots after, but never thought any were as good as my SONY. Currently shooting on a Fuji XT4, which is pretty incredible.@@jesphillips2193
When I wanted to move from the 70D to full frame, I chose the RP instead of the 6DII or the R. Paired with RF "L" glass, I get beautiful landscape images. The low-light performance does leave something to be desired, though. I will be moving to the R5 when/if prices come down.
I don’t want to disappoint you but the 80d still after almost 5 years is still expensive AF so I’m expecting the r5 to hold its price for a long long time
@@Sorennn94 Absolutely. I actually carry 2 Canon and 2 OEM batteries for cold weather. Another advantage is, with the L-bracket off and a fixed 35 or 59-ish lens, it is a dandy carry-around camera.
When I come to RUclips to look up about cameras, this is the type of video I love and am impressed with. Not to long but enough for the right information I need. Great presenters, and overall great video.
It appears Canon is aiming for a lens monopoly. See the articles "These third-party Canon RF-fit lenses are being pulled from sale - but why?", "Viltrox Says Canon has Demanded They Stop Selling RF-Mount Lenses" and from Canon rumors: "The state of third-party lenses for the RF mount, Canon may be involved". For this reason, available glass will be limited and prone to monopolistic pricing. So my personal answer to 'Which Canon Mirrorless Camera should you buy?' is none of them. Sony slows down frame rate for third party lenses, but at least you can use them. The policy of Nikon is unclear to me, but Tamron is making a new Z lens (but it is basically a kit lens that nobody would want). I think any sensible person can see that these "buy only our line of products" positions are consumer hostile. If Canon follows forward with this policy, I will never buy a Canon mirrorless (I do have an M3, but that doesn't count). I don't need 30 frames per second, so I may never move to a mirrorless mount for my primary usage (I have Canon full frame and Nikon full frame DSLR cameras, and some older Sony alphas {but the Sony cameras are not for serious use}). If I were a camera manufacturer I would not choose a formal policy that looks hostile towards the consumers of my products. Back in the day, Canon made something called L lenses that were better than any third party glass. So people bought those and Canon made money. There was nothing wrong with that model. I want choices and the safety of alternative vendors. Maybe DJI or Viltrox will make a camera that has a totally open API and mount and then they will bury these Japanese dealers. People will say, "Use an adapter." but adapters always lose something. And I would not want my Sigma glass to suddenly stop working when the next Canon model comes out.
As a 100% Canon user I do 100% agree with this. I can not recommend a Canon mirrorless setup to anyone who needs to care about his gear budget at this point.
A note on adapters... Read your Canon warranty, Canon can void the warranty for use of unauthorized 3rd party products. And will your spiffy lens still work after the next firmware update? Will using it brick your camera? Nobody knows. I do hope Canon reconsiders this move.
Canon makes its money and profit on lenses. Cameras are a loss leader. They are currently making money hand over fist on their new RF lenses. This is good for them and the consumer. Canon not only makes a great camera, they make them so good that it would take a lot from someone else to make one nearly as good. But for those a little wiser, the EF-RF control ring adapter is perfect allowing the use great EF (and EF-S) lenses being traded in for more expensive glass while still maintaining the functionality. Personally I like the location of the control ring closer to the camera with the adapter. I haven't bought an RF lens yet for my EOS-R. I am tempted on some, but the EF glass available at comparatively bargain prices is good. I am also sharing these lenses with my APSC 90D. My 100-400/4.5-5.6IIL works great on both! I do hear the R7 siren calling though... Anyway, my R is a poor photographer's version of the 5D4, missing the second card slot, but with a great EVF system. I do love this camera! Favorite lens with it is the Canon 24-70/4 L IS.
I use the A7RIV and it’s amazing, but could be a little better in low light. Still much better than my a6400. Id probably suggest the A7IV because a little better lowlight performance and still great resolution at 33MP rather than 61 on the RIV. For video the A7RIV is not much of an improvement at all from the a6000 series besides IBIS and full frame. (I know the R lineup is photo centric but it would have been nice to have the option of a higher fps 4K)
From someone who has used the Eye Focus on the R3 - I can absolutely assure you that it’s not gimmicky. It’s fricken awesome. It follows faster than my brain can possibly comprehend. I look. I press the shutter. Perfection.
It was pretty decent on the EOS 3 film camera 30 years ago. I've missed that. Would be really beneficial for side shots on a stage with multiple people.
@@jamesfoureight9879 I trust it implicitly for a full 14-hour wedding day. I find my outside and indoor profiles work well for most scenarios and only sometimes need to do a nighttime calibration for dance-floor shots. I may calibrate 2-3 times during that 14-hour period at the absolute most. It’s honestly incredible.
Great summary! I use 2x R5 with great lenses like 85 1.2 RF / 28-70 2.0 RF and I LOVE them. But honestly, when it comes to value, the RP is amazing and unbeatable.
@@christopherowens8313 The R6 is an excellent camera if it suits your needs! I personally like the R5's higher resolution to have more cropping options without losing quality. The viewfinder is also noticeably better. But it sure comes down to purpose and personal preference 🙂It's like choosing between two super cars.
I can't believe the R3 has eye following detection for focusing. I believe that stated with Canon way way back with the Film camera the Elan 7e which was my first Canon camera. The "E" stood for eye detection. So cool!
I still have my EOS 50E (same?) here (don't use it). I don't remember how much I used it, but it worked pretty well. But it only needed to cover a limited amount of AF points.
I went for Canon R6 + 24-105 mm F4 L lens. After many years I switched from Canon 550D + 15-85 mm. Now its time to decide to buy or 100-400 F5,6/8 or shorter 70-200 F4 L but with 1.4x or 2.0x gear.
With Canon's anti-consumer actions regarding third-party lenses, and their refusal (thus far) to issue a firmware update removing the 30 minute record limit on the R5/6.. Might I suggest a Sony camera? Signed - A disgruntled Canon shooter.
@@truthseeker6804 Okay, where can I buy a Tamron 35-150mm f/2-f/2.8 for EF mount? Or the "companion" 17-35 f/2-f/2.8... Got the former for my Sony today, traded in my Canon gear
Would like a video like this but for Sony and Nikon. Very informative to those starting out or looking to see if it is worth upgrading from crop to full frame
Thanks for the video but I wish you guys would of mentioned a few more things like which camera have IBIS. As a current RP owner I also want to mention that the camera does have issues since it's their first and a lot of the new things in the newer RF cameras I wish they would throw some love on the R and RP with simple updates but they don't. The camera has 4k but it's contrast focus and is extremely cropped. At times it just feels more like a purposely built feature rather than a limitation especially since cameras like the m6 mark Ii has it. I know it's a short video but little details like that makes me really want to upgrade to the R6 or R5.
Note that her favorite was the RP with the 24-240. And they had 6 of them in studio. What does that say? That's why I purchased the RP with the 24-240. Read another review that stated the RP was basically a miniaturized 5D MkII. Put 400K photos on one of those. And music videos. It's still going with an IAIA student. Just love having a nearly "pocket" MkII. Photos with the RP24-240 combo are surprisingly good. Very workable in post or even SNAPSEED. Have also seen reviews stating the combo is a well kept secret. Certainly not as perfect as a new 5D but it's so small and tidy. If knowing what one is doing, gets the job done quite well.
I will continue enjoying my set of full frame Nikon gear I have since 2018 :-). I recently added a Z6ii to the kit. It just does not make sense to switch systems and Nikon is getting better all the time. Switching systems is simply not something a budget minded person would do, and today, really any system (Nikon, Sony, Canon, Fuji, etc.) is cool enough and more than good enough.
The ef/rf nd filter adaptor was something that interested me in staying with canon being that I already own ef glass and I do alot of outdoor video. So all I needed was a body and adaptor. So I went with the r6, and the 4K video is great. Rf glass seems great but the results I’m getting right now I’m very content with.
I do not agree to say the crop sensors have limited lenses. The other way around yes. You can say you don't use the whole lens. However almost all lenses loose sharpness in the edges. So using a FF lens on a Crop sensor also has benefits. Also in case you ever want to upgrade you don't have to throw out your lenses.
You do miss something at the low end. FF wideangle and wideangle zooms are not what you want with APS-C. But everything from 35mm upwards is just for a different viewing angle and good in tele. I bought a R7 with the 18-150 which is really nice for vacation and most other motives and is very light. The 18-55 is too short in my opinion. You would need to switch lenses too often.
Helpful Video thank you @ 6:05 you compare R6/R7 IQ. At the Cropped equivalent, seems no difference? My test of the R6 cropped showed IQ degrades more than the R7 on outdoor subjects at 30-50 yds, a real life sports situation
Another interesting story regarding Canon lenses... I was browsing a supplier website for a zoom RF lens to replace my Sigma 150 to 600 mm EF because of the focusing issues on the Canon R5. A chat box appeared and I asked who I thought was a retailer representative what he recommended... it turned out he was a Canon employee .... So I asked him about the Sigma issue and he said it was known issue and no plans to release the RF specs to Sigma so they could fix the issue. When I explained what I wanted to use the lens for he said my best option was the Canon 100 to 500 RF L series lenses and he kindly provided the link to the retailers listing ... £2,979 ! My Sigma cost be £749. No doubt the 100 to 500 RF L will take outstanding photos but for an amateur like myself I could buy a second hand car for that or pay my whole years energy bill (2022 only). If I wanted the Canon 10 to 500 RF L I would need to sell all my lenses including the R5 Body. I could perhaps then buy a second hand R or RP ! Doesn't make sense, so I may sell all my gear and switch to Sony or Nikon. Well done Canon.
There are a lot of Canon shooters using the 150-600mm on Canon EF bodies.... I have a lot of Canon products but can't recommend Canon's Rf system to them because of the problems with trying to use that lens. I once considered switching to Nikon and there was a program to change from Canon to Nikon mount due to the D850. You might see if they could change your mount to Nikon and use a converter but that might be cost prohibitive and Nikon only has one sports shooting camera as of today.
@@anthonyclements6020 I have the Canon 5D Mk IV and the Sigma 150-600 works just fine on that with the EF mount but the 5D doesn't have the Animal eye tracking and has a 32 megapixel sensor. I se no reason why the Sigma should not work on the R5 with Canons own RF ro EF adapter but it doesn't work 100%.leading to a lot of out of focus shots. Helping Sigma would be a nice gesture from canon as Sigma are not trying to reverse engineer an RF mount unlike Samyang and Viltrox. I think Canon are just being petty.
I started with a Canon digital Rebel my first real lenses were Tamron. I have a combination of Canon and Sigma lenses now, along with a 5D mk III, 5D mk II, and a 7D converted to shoot infrared. I supposed I will eventually need to move to mirrorless, but will resist as long as I can because I don't want to buy all new gear and sell what I have at a reduced value. If Canon does not allow third party lenses on their mirrorless when I am ready to switch, then I am unlikely to stay with the brand. Mind you, I have also helped five friends start out with their first DSLRs, and they are all on Canon.
As a film photographer and loyal Canon owner transitioning to digital, I was originally planning to get the EOS 250D/Rebel SL3/Kiss X10/200D II, but when I was told DSLR was being phased out, I looked at the R series. The R50 would've been okay if it weren't too small, so I settled with the R10 and I love it. I'll still be using my EOS 50/Elan II/55, but it's great shooting with both formats.
I started with the Canon rp and the 24-70 2.8 then got the 16-35 2.8 then a 70-300 4.5 and after a bunch of jobs got the R and haven’t felt the need to upgrade yet. The only thing I do wish I had was 120 fps at least at 1920x1080 sometimes 😅
I don't know if it's really fair to include the kit lenses, because when I had a 60D, I used regular EF lenses, frequently borrowing my dad's for his full frame camera, and they work just fine. I used a 100-400 with the 60D for wildlife photos, and it was nice to have the extra crop without having to crop it after transferring photos. Besides, if you're getting into photography and want to continue and get into it more, it's nice to have lenses that work on both. Sigma makes some great EF lenses that work fine with the adapter, and are a bit more affordable than Canon, as well as having more diverse offerings. I have the R and their lenses are pretty on part with the Canon L series lenses I've used. I ordered the R7, so I'll see how that goes. I probably wouldn't use the 50 on it, but I have a feeling that the 150-600 would be great on a crop sensor for getting pics of the moon. I know some people are like "no, you have to buy Canon L lenses for Canon cameras, they work the best!" But comparing the RF 50 1.2 to the Sigma 50 1.4, the images are exactly the same. Don't limit yourself to one brand, or one line of lenses, there are some great options. I got my Sigma 50mm used too, so if you have a local store, just walk in with your camera and an adapter, and see what they have secondhand. Sigma does have some APS-C lenses too, so if you have the adapter, go for it. One thing nice about getting the original R is that it came with a bunch of extras, including a lens adapter. I use it maybe half the time I'm taking photos, and it's great. It will be interesting to compare the R and R7, as there's been a lot of technological advancement in that time. I might take it to the store in person (I'm in Canada, so we have Henry's and the staff are fantastic) and then try some different lenses or comparisons. I need to get more memory cards since the R7 takes two cards, and for shooting 4K, you pretty much need to have UHS-II cards, so I'd like to get a matching set.
I have been a Canon fan for over 35 years. The lack of 3rd party lenses is a big deal. I hate to say this at this rate my next camera is most likely NOT a Canon.
I own an RP body. Fully satisfied. The only caveat is battery life. Want to buy the RP, invest on an extra battery too. Amazing photos on kit lenses too.
The downside of Canon is the lack of reasonably affordable RF mount higher quality prime lens. For example, typical Nikon S-Line mirrorless lenses are less than $1000 for f/1.8. Not everyone needs f/1.2.
@@rokpodlogar6062 Adapting your existing EF lenses is one thing but buying a collection of additional EF lenses just to use them with an RF camera because of some political decision on Canon's side is just ridiculous.
@@2point7182818284590 well, that's one way of looking at it. the other would be, there is a bunch of people trying to unload ef lenses to switch fully to rf line and that could drive the prices down a bit. you only need to buy one ef2rf adapter and the difference in prices between rf and ef are quite a lot. i only bought 1 rf lens, the all around 24-105 and i'm still jusing my ef-s and ef lenses with both my dslr and the new rf. interestingly my third party tokina ef-s 11-16mm has no sensor crop limiter on my rf camera, only the physical vignetting, which is kind of cool. at 16mm it's still a 16 mm without the vignette.
I've been using full frame lens on aps-c bodies my whole life starting with the first digital rebel and Ive had no problem. Actually I love the range I get from using FF lens on crop bodies. The advantage is that you can use your lens on both bodies but if you have aps-c lens, you can't use them on a full frame body. Think the R7 is way better than just a camera for birds.
I'll buy the one that allows third party lenses please. Which models are those again? Seriously Canon's RF lenses strategy and Australian pricing I why I quit them after 20 years. Just wish I had left them years earlier.
I know you guys get paid for the sponsorships, but I still wanted to say thank you for having a local business as a sponsor. B&H Photo, Adorama, Amazon might have great deals, but the care that you get from a local business outweighs any perceived savings.(Actually, the national camera companies aren't really that much cheaper, based on comparisons with my local shop.) Plus, if you support the local business long enough, you become a familiar face to the workers, and you tend to get some perks, for example, when the R7 started shipping, my local store got two of them, they called me before others on their wait-list.
God....im still using my T2i. Thats the inly camera i have. Im kind of stuck having to like it even with all this increduble new tech out there. Wishing you all the best with all the new tech
Brilliant! I have had an M50 for some years and want to upgrade, within the Canon system. I think I am not alone in that situation. But to which camera? Your video answered that precise question. Tnx a million!
If you've got an M50, you can go anywhere. None of the lenses are compatible with the R bodies. Check out Tony and Chelsea's newest video on Canon banning 3rd party lenses, if you haven't already. If you're ready to ditch the M50, you should definitely check out the Sony and Nikon options - or even something like Lumix S, if you're going to do a lot of video.
@@hoodie3810 Tnx a lot for sharing your suggestions! I have some older lenses but it's not the use of them in the future that interest me the most, but which Canon camera is most suited for my photography. Or rather, I was interested in that. With Canon using its power to crush competition, I will, as you also suggest, change to another brand.
Love my R5 had it since it came out. One thing i would have mentioned however is a good reason to pick up the R10 or R7 for wildlife is the crop factor. It allows you to get a little closer with the same lens. I used to do this when I had the D500 and 200-500 combo and it was like having a teleconverter without the hit in IQ.
First great informative video! The issue I have with all camera manufacturers is that they all failed to implement technology from smartphones. Living in period where there is inflation and recession it makes it a little harder to decide whether or not to buy a new mirrorless camera with a new mount. But these manufacturers know all too well that they will come out ahead if they take their time. However if companies like Yonguo are getting a jump start on smartphone tech in their cameras, Canon, Sony and Nikon are gonna spend 2 or 3 years playing catch up. But who has the patience? Either you want in or you miss out! I've missed out on taking great photos at night that my iPhone 11 just can't match a dslr!
Well if a world brand such as the big company of yonguo has something the rest can`t stay behind. Do they already have a great set of fast primes available.......
5:20 Little bit of misinformation here - there's absolutely nothing stopping you using any RF lens on any R body, APS-C sensor bodies will just crop in 1.6x, the mount is the same. There's a VERY limited range of RF-S lenses specifically for APS-C sensors, but even these still give you a cropped field of view for any given focal length, Canon's own website says so, they're just smaller and lighter and cheaper for these crop sensor cameras.
Chelsi mentions that the R3 has an AA filter but don't the all have that filter? Also, Tony never talked about IBIS (unless I missed it) that is lacking in the R and RP cameras or that the R (or is it RP) doesn't have the sensor shield protection offered in the R7 and above cameras.
Hi, sorry, but did you make a mistake @ 6:20? The one on the right is completely blurry, why di you say that it's better than the one on the left? I don't understand 🤔
12:37 No thanks!!! I can get a used low shutter count Olympus EM1 Mark3 for 1000$!!! It has Handheld High-Res Mode 80MP, Focus stacking, Focus Bracketing, BEST IBIS , excelent light inexpensive lens, 15frames mechanical, 60 frames electronic shutter, Pro Capture Mode!!! and so on....
This review was a great reminder regarding an important point on sensors, specifically made for the R7 vs R6 here in this video, but can apply to other cameras in general. The IQ isn't just dependent on the number of sensor megapixels (pixel density), it also depends on the design/quality/tech of the sensor itself. A more sophisticated higher tech but lower megapixel sensor may have better IQ compared to a lesser tech sensor that has more megapixels.
@@Toamserippa Kit lenses... why they are still a thing? Just let the customer decide which he wants to be his "kit" lens... my personal kit lens and only lens was for a while a 50mm 1.4 with trashy autofocus, later a 28-105mm as "universal" (it obviously wasnt on APS-C!) Even within the RF lineup there are nice "kit" lenses: the RF 35 and 50mm primes RF 24-105 non L is pretty sharp! (but for my taste too expensive already) 24-70L if you want the "L" 100mm 2.8L Macro... probably THE lens hard to ever regret! I just afforded a 2nd hand EF version, superb Macro lens and i guess its also nice for portrait. The 900-1100$ i saved with the EF version were also worth it, i love "budget" stuff!
The huge game changer was Tamron announcing it will make the 70-300mm zoom lens (same one as the Sony mount). That’s something I was looking forward to, and might make me get a Z6. Canon doesn’t make one in RF mount. The EF 70-300mm was discontinued, and a used one is a bit expensive.
@@lovemycity420 options are important. Some third party glass is even better than first party glass, either when comparing for price or by equivalent lens model. Sometimes a given lens type is not available at all from a first party. Also, the availability of good third party options creates competition that forces the first party to make more useful lenses for better prices. Canon is being very anti-competitive recently and it is convincing a lot of users to go with Sony instead, which ultimately will be bad for Canon. Open and/or accessibly-licensed lens mounts are good for everyone; Canon's strategy here is short-sighted.
@@gabedamien I heard your argument, but I don’t agree. The biggest most valuable company in the world operates the same way(apple) people been crying saying exactly what you just said, but miraculously they dominate the market! Maybe your right, apple doesn’t know shit😭
When I started shooting wedding videos, I relied on sigma glass for my second and third cameras. I purchased Canon lenses for my main, but could not afford or needed expensive lenses for my two other angles.
Which is hardly a problem because Canon makes some of the best glass you can get and can mount a plethora of third party lenses in EF mount for those few unique lenses you can get. And right now there is almost zero in the way of third party lenses meant for mirrorless which aren't redundant already. And Canon is adding to the RF system rapidly.
Would like to see a comparison of the R7 and R5 image quality with the same L glass. I'm suspecting that Canon will eventually have a full frame sensor that is the same pixel density as the R7. A cropped in image of the R5 to match the image size of the R7 might give that comparison with a lens that can resolve it.
Well heck! I'm a beginner with a RP, and have been dead-set on upgrading to the R6. Now you've got me thinking I might need to tuck away a little more cash for the R5. Thanks a lot y'all!
I have a few L series EF lenses (70-200) and the (17-40) My sports subjects have all grown up and got married. I basically need something to take interior kitchen, baths, etc. for my cabinet work. My last camera was the 20D which is not full framed. I'm thinking the EOS RP with the 17-40 l series lens would be good to achieve website photos without breaking the bank and still be able to get full use out of my lenses....mainly the wide 17mm to get a full wall in the shot. My 20d is so ancient the pixels weren't that high and I could never get full use out of the wide angle L lens. Agree?
The big exception to the full frame and crop sensor lens and Camera combination is the R7 with the RF100-400mm. That lightweight and enjoyable to carry combo gives you 640mm field of view in an incredibly small package for Birds wildlife and bugs blooms and butterflies. It's short minimum focusing distance makes it great for almost everything! The R7 with that lens is also very inexpensive.
I've just upgraded to the R5 (from Olympus) and while I'm fine for the moment just having a single-body set-up (or if I need two, bringing my Olympus but of course having to bring more lenses) I think the R7 would be my choice for second body just because of the versatility of the second body being a crop sensor. In, y'know... a few years time.
I'm not a professional photographer and already have a fullframe DSLR for 8 years but still watch this video for more reasons to stay with the current gear. LOL.
i really like the shape of canon r3, the texture and the curves, looks like a very futurisitic than it is. plus with the new rf lenses, i think this is one of the aestheticaly appleasing camera out there. sorry sony you're still second.
Hey, i have a question regarding camera choice and i cant really solve it myself and hoped you may be able to help me with all the experience you have. Im kinda stuck in my decision between the R5, R3, Z9 and A1. I havent invested im any ecosystem yet and price isnt a deciding point here. I think i mainly want to take wildlife pictures, but may want to dip into sports in the future. Additionally all things family picture related. Are 24MP of the R3 enough to print big family pictures? Is the better ISO of the R3 relevant? All these question made it impossible for me to get to a well thought through conclusion. But maybe you can help me with that. Thank you and great content as always!
Did you again use a kit lens on the R7 to talk about that the resolution of the sensor does not matter? The important point is that without great glass on the R7, it’s sensor will work against you. It is not cost effective to put wide angle full frame zoom lenses on a crop sensor, but after 35mm, it is not a terrible idea. Every sensor using the nifty 50 at f4 would have been a fair test.
Very good informative video Tony ! The R5 is the camera that I was waiting for. It is expensive but since it has been firmwares updated (1.52 + 1.60) it is worth every hard saved penny. This video will help people to decide for sure. Good job !
I'll say the same as I usually say - if you have to ask which one - buy ANY of them that you can afford. If you HAVE to ask, you don't NEED most of the functions and specs they offer.
I have my mind already set for the Canon R5. I will be renting one for a week to try out in a football game and a high school reunion photoshoot to try before buying. I also have to rent out the EF to EOS R adapter since I already have the 24-70mm F/2.8, 70-200mm F/2.8 and the Sigma 50mm F/1.4 Art lens. I also like the Clog 3 already built in the camera for video at 4K/120fps. Even though it can record at 8K I never record beyond 4K. It's just too big for post production. As of now I have the Canon 5D Mk IV.
Great video! I’m considering purchasing a full frame mirrorless, and don’t have any brand loyalty, or investment in lenses. I would love to see a similar one for Sony, and Nikon. While you’re at it, why not do the same for Panasonic & Fuji? I’ve got to say, the comments about Cannon’s lens policy are very educational and do give me something to consider.
Apple vs PC/Windows. Canon is like Apple and is adopting their business model. Canon is easier to use and just feels great. Just like Apple. I am a Canon shooter and a PC/Windows user but do use the iPhone. Go figure...
I wouldn't recommend buying any Canon R camera. Not because of their cameras but because of their lenses. The current lens selection is sub-par at best. Canon has no intention to open the RF mount for any competition. Their lens line up allows you to select between plastic waste or a brick (50mm/f1.8= $200 vs 50mm/f1.2 $2300). Lenses lack innovation, are bulky, heavy and expensive or they are cheap, loud AF, slow or require you to stop down to f5.6 to get sharp images. The only credit I can give them is for their lens IBIS but what else???? I don't know...they are Canon and when you use Canon ... you are Canon Shooter. Well, that's at least something - I guess.
Have you used any of those "plastic" RF primes? I own all of the RF non-L primes and they are all amazing, lightweight, super sharp wide open and AF is very good, in 85 2.0 could be better but it is not a sport lens, it is a lightweight portrait lens
@@pawebaran3601 I've tried the 35mm/50mm RF plastic at my local Canon dealer. The 50mm is amazing for $199 but nothing more. I've also tried the 50mm/f1.2 and while I had no optical complaints, I didn't enjoy the weight, the front-focusing design and the clicky AF noise in Servo AF. I don't know what it is, but I get picky with premium products at a certain price point. Here is the problem, there aren't many RF lenses I would highly recommend, as of today. Heck, there are so many prime lenses missing in a balanced lens line up. Again, personal opinion - I know. Competition would address some of those. Thanks to "competition" Canon finally came out with the Canon R and good cameras like the R3/R5/R6. Canon users would still be using their DSLR in 2022 if it wasn't for S**y. Competition drives innovation.
I’ve been wanting to buy a nice camera for about six months or so, after watching your channel for about a year I decided on the R7. Today I bought it, come home all exited, turn to your channel so I can watch the video you have on tutorials and settings (newbie here) and I see this video 🤦🏽♂️….I’m not even going to look at it just in case…😂BTW my wife and I love the channel.
Hi there, been a long time subscriber. Also been a very long time been out of the game of photography. I have the Canon 500D and looking to take up photography again with a up to date camera and found out that Mirrorless have taken over. I’m mainly doing landscape and seascape photography but don’t have the budget for the R5 what are my other options. Also I don’t have any lenses now but would like to go down the route on L series lenses and a full frame. Thanks . This was my first go to channel on photography too . Good work
I can't decide wether to buy Canon R7 or the RP or the R. I'm an one-person agency, so I take photos, videos and all that stuff for marketing purposes. From time to time I shoot some photos indoors but my SL3 is not as good as I wanted it to be in low light enviroments, and make me think about buying a fullframe over the R7 (I think the R7 is the best bang for my buck, but unfortunately it's APS-C)
I have a 77D and I am currently testing Rp, with a tamron 150-600 77d is better because it has a crop and brings pets closer but the Rp has better noise tolerance when taking photos in dark rooms or in the evenings, I know that you can't have everything, that's why I have a dilemma. I thought that the noise from the 77d can always be removed with Dx0 which works great in denoising raws. Rp seems ok but I miss something in it, it's a pity that R7 is not included in the price of Rp :) and my dream is to test R3 with some Canon 500 2.8 :D
One thing you guys didn't mention: The R6 actually has sharper 4k video than the R5. Granted, it doesn't have the filetype diversity, but still. Most people these days want great 4k video and the R6 seems to do it on a budget with roughly the same overheating time of the R5.
I've been happily in DSLR-land for 20 years, since I bought my original Canon 300D, which I still have and which still delivers nice results. I've added a 20D, 7D Mk II, and finally a 1DX Mk III to my arsenal. Save for a soon-to-be-delivered Sigma 150-600C and an old Tokina 19-35 that I've had for years, all of my lenses are Canon EF or EF-S. I've really never given much thought to moving to mirrorless, since my hardware is all in great shape and will probably last longer than I will. However, lately I've found myself getting more and more tempted to add an R6 Mk II to my kit. Knowing that I can use the EF-RF adapter to continue using my Canon glass is a big incentive. I'm still not 100% sure, but the scales seem to be tilting towards a purchase. After all, Christmas is coming…😉
I've been a DSLR APS-C shooter, using a 7D for years and adding a 40D. I've spent hours trying to decide if I want to add a full-frame DSLR or add a mirrorless, and if that, APS-C or full-frame. Something tells me that sticking to APS-C and having a fuller feature set will matter more to me than the advantages (ultra-fine details) of a full-frame body Plus, I'm absolutely not going to buy pro-level glass. I don't plan to shoot sports or action wildlife, and I don't need 4K video. Landscapes, architecture, portraits, still-lifes, normal light stuff, and FHD video are my thing. Maybe I should settle for an R100.
Ugh 😑. I feel like I made a mistake buying the Canon 90D! I know I can’t afford anything over $1,500-$1,800. I’m assuming I will be ok when I buy a really good lens? I like wildlife, landscapes, and macro, so I’m struggling on what lens I want to get. Anyone with some advice, please comment. Thank you in advance.
After hearing Chelsea praise the Nikon D850 I bought one after forty years of buying Canon. I’m not getting sucked into the mirror less market like the camera companies want us to. Dslr produces great images and my D850 with native snd Sigma glass is a breath of fresh air after being tied to Canon for so long, I’m hanging onto my 5D iii though, can’t part with it yet. To many memories!
I have a D850 too and love using it. But the Z7ii... oooft. That thing performs. As much as I love holding a chunky reliable DSLR, the mirrorless features like eye- and subject-detect AF are a whole new game, and as much as I was reluctant to use a digital viewfinder it's actually a lot nicer than I was expecting.
I own the R6 and I absolutely love it. Buy the one you can afford and does the things you will use it for. Don't break the bank for no reason.
I bought the r10 back in April as my first more serious camera and I've found it incredible, for videography too using a gimbal. Planning to get an r6 or something like so by 2024.
I just bought the R8, and it's out of this world 🌎 ❤
Tbh I am considering buying a camera, but sadly all that Canon offers is hot garbage, r7 has no buffer at all and everything looks sharper than it, the R6MII cant record while plug-in HDMI one or other, and the R8 has no IBIS and garbage battery, and only r5 and higher that can be used as an upgrade from 2018 R camera crazy how 6 years and still the whole R series are step down from the R $2,300 MSRP except off $3900 R5 and $4300 R5MII, inflation is crazy… and Canon are behind in the market so bad … (it is just my opinion)
I have a Canon R6 and I love it! And for those who say "you cant shoot landscapes because the megapixels are too small" are just being snobby, you can shoot anything with anything.
+1 The R6 just makes things less blurry in the landscape if it’s windy, and the tripod weighs less than the Statue of Liberty…
You can also substitute your 8 ball with a bowling ball, but you’ll get thrown out of the bar
Lol I used to shoot with a 20D and nobody ever noticed
@@roodick85 You noticed
@@roodick85 i still keep my 20D on a shelf as a love relic, as it got me so many jobs, was printed in magazines and such. No one noticed 🙄
I decided to buy the RP because this is my first mirrorless camera and I didn't want to invest too much if I don't like it. Also, I can use my EF lenses with the adapter. I wanted the R6 but it's a little steep right now. Anything above the R6 seems like they are more for pros and serious amateurs.
You could actually try the R8 quite nice step up upgrading virtually everything of your RP in the same body.
By the way, the EF-R adapter works great! I adapted an older 400MM f/5.6 to a friend's R6 and it worked flawlessly! So if you've already got EF glass then just adapt it and you'll be fine.
I love the adapter... I have an R6 and RP, and the only RF glass I own is the kit lens that came with my RP. I shot an airshow this past weekend with the R6 and an adapted Sigma 150-600 C and got some amazing shots.
I purchased the ef/rf nd filter adaptor considering I do outdoor stuff quite often and I had ef glass prior to buying an r6. I loving the results, system works great for me
It sounds great but it doesn't help Canon sell more RF glass if users are happy with adapted EF glass.
@@sosomelodies659 The RF glass is better. Canon have been holding baxk on the EF glass for several years.
@@nordic5490 eventually Canon will make RF glass for the consumer line and it won't be that great while still being pricier than third-party options.
R10 or RP. Or 5D Mark 4, 6D mark 2 or 90D. Add a flash, and 3 quality lenses (walk around, tele, portrait). 2000 dollars and you’re completely set. Many choices possible - I’ve been in the Canon ecosystem since the 450D and have always been happy. I’ve built up my gear over the years, and I’m currently on R5 with RF 28-70, EF 70-300, RF 35 and EF 16-35. My system is complete!
I have never seen a better comparison video. Exceptionally professional and well presented.
The cost of the camera you want is only part of the story, canon bodies are not cheap but n a par for equally specified other makes. Select a camera body based on features you use most often and image quality you need, the prices are almost linear based on these criteria. But lenses are a whole different matter. Canon RF mount lenses are expensive. Third party lenses offer usually much more bang for the buck but here is the rub, Canon won't allow third parties to make and sell RF mount glass. So my advice would be that unless you have a compelling reason to need some obscure feature only Canon cameras can offer then I would chose Sony or Nikon as your base body and then you have access to hundreds of top quality lenses at reasonable prices as well as second hand. Your camera bag can be a cornucopia of great glass for the price of just one Canon RF L series lens.
Or just get an EF to RF adapter, loads of affordable lenses for the EF mount.
Hence I loved Canon cause the resell value great!
@@SonOfInfernum I did but it doesn't help with the Sigma 150-600 C lens... the adapter works but the lens has autofocusing issues. I have not seen adverse reports on other EF third party lenses yet but they may exist. Generally the EF Canon Lenses are superseded by the RF equivalent lens which are better so reviews suggest.
As Maxime said... just go EF RF adapter
Did you get the 150-600 before or after the EOS R system? If you had it already... sure, thats annoying, but if you bought it after the camera....its totally your fault, especially if it was known already in the community. I dont see this problem as a huge dealbreaker.... just remap any button to AF-C/AF-S switching and go as good as possible for AF-S when its also just ok. I am using the RP and rely very much on AF-S in wildilfe because 5 fps is slow enough, i dont want like 2,5-3,5 fps because i need AF-C. Also since the RP doesnt have any animal detect thats pretty much im limited to.
I just got a RF 800 F11 instead of the 150-600 sigma, i really struggled with this decision since i knew from the beginning i will rely a lot on AF-S anyways but for flying and moving birds i just needed reliable AF-C if i use it. I think the RF 800 and RF 600 F11 pretty much show: RF glass can be affordable, in fact even super affordable for its performance.
Just some other examples you may know:
RF 50mm 1.8
RF 85mm 1.8
RF 35mm 1.8 IS
RF 24-105 non-L
But yeah, I also try to avoid RF glass - the camera is just a charme with as much used as possible with the Meike RF EF filter adapter on it - just always protected sensor and all needed filters for EVERY EF lens!
I got once a EF 100mm 2.8L Macro with broken stabilizer super cheap, repaired it and well, even if the stabilizer would have been unrepairable- Just SUPER VALUE!
The thing is i guess... just use CANON (!!!) EF glass if possible, except for a super garbage lens (EF 75-300 IS USM) all my EF lenses perform better on mirrorless than they did on the DSLR!
I cant really say much about 3rd party EF lenses AF performance since basically all my 3rd party EF gear is just manual focus, a telescope or has from the beginning trashy AF which im fine that it works at all on mirrorless.
@@harrison00xXx Great comprehensive comment, thanks. I had the 150 to 600 to use with my 5D mk IV before I got the R5... that's why I'm miffed about it. I have other rf glass but not the L series. I smile too 😊 as I have the 70 to 300 USM EF lens.... I found it was great focusing, very quick, but above 200mm it went off so my attempts at close ups of birds on say the opposite river bank were frankly unusable... but don't tell anyone as I hope to sell it on eBay. I bought the excellent 150 to 600 Sigma to replace the 70 to 300 USM. Oh well. Sony looks good but the rear tilt screen is pointless and a pain. (I had two A390 Sonys that also had annoying flip screens) Sony could advance if they had a flip twist out screen like Canons.
Still shooting every video for both my RUclips channels with my beloved Canon EOS R, which I bought the day it was released. Even gave up both my GH5 and my Sony A7iii for the switch and I couldnt be happier!!!
Currently selling my Sony ZV1 to purchase the R10 for a vlogging and B cam!
Great comparison vid as always guys!
Hey, i really like the review. It sums up all the options well.
But there should be a big disclaimer, that none of the cameras should be recommended as budget option.
None of the canon cameras has acces to modern & affordable third party lenses. So even if you buy a R10 for 1k for wildlife you will need another 3k for the rf 100-500.
I just startet photography a year ago with the R6 and I am really happy with the camera itself. But i will not recommend it to anyone who is on a budget under 10k.
Just the trinity itself without a camera is roughly 8-9k (Sigma or Tamron around 3k for the E-mount).
theres always ef lenses you can use with canon adapter.
Sigma 150-600mm contemporary under 1k or sport 1,5k....
@@clueless3891 absolutly true.
I own the Tamron 150-600 G2, which is pretty much the same and in many situations a decent solution.
But the problem is the af, that just works unreliable. And then there is no point to buy the latest mirrorless body with amazing af when it is just working in 80% and 20% starts pumping and produces errors.
Just returned from 20 day Safari and missed quite some animals/scenes due to the problems with the af. So the wild dogs and 2 leopards are just on the 6 year old bridge camera of my dad. In other situations where you get a 2. chance it is no problem at all.
EF adapter. Infinite possibilities. Including some pretty amazing EF L glass....
I personally (professionally) use an EF 100-400 mk 2 over the RF 100-500 because EF @ 400 is 5.6. RF @ 400 is 6.3. It's not AS sharp, but the color and light are a step better on the R5. That being said, the 100-400 RF is still a great lens and only $600. A few YTbers have used it for capturing birds in flight and have said it keeps up enough. I wouldn't expect it to be as battle ready and rugged as the L series glass, but it'll get the job done for under $1k
This does an INCREDIBLE job of showing some important/relevant differences between these cameras for beginners. Well done guys :)
6000$ beginners???
You have a point LOL. They are not ALL $6000 though. Also, there are a lot of cashed-up people around these days, who just spend money on new hobbies hoping that'll make them good at whatever... Let them I say. It floods the market with cheaper second-hand gear when they give up 6mnths later. Which is great for you and me ;P@@P.E.J.
I have been doing photography for 3 years now and I only have a £80 Sony A200. The pictures it takes are still amazing for the price!
My first camera was a SONY Cybershot 5 mega pixels. Had a number of higher resolution point and shoots after, but never thought any were as good as my SONY. Currently shooting on a Fuji XT4, which is pretty incredible.@@jesphillips2193
I bought my R7, RF 100-400, & RF 85 from Milford. Saw you ad for them and gave them a call. Great deal and service!
Awesome thank you!
I got my R7 from them as well when NO ONE had'em!
When I wanted to move from the 70D to full frame, I chose the RP instead of the 6DII or the R. Paired with RF "L" glass, I get beautiful landscape images. The low-light performance does leave something to be desired, though. I will be moving to the R5 when/if prices come down.
I don’t want to disappoint you but the 80d still after almost 5 years is still expensive AF so I’m expecting the r5 to hold its price for a long long time
@@Sorennn94 I am in no rush. The RP serves me well for landscape photography.
@@rlfisher trust me you’ve made the right choice ! The only disadvantage is the small battery but other than that it’s the best for the price
@@Sorennn94 Absolutely. I actually carry 2 Canon and 2 OEM batteries for cold weather. Another advantage is, with the L-bracket off and a fixed 35 or 59-ish lens, it is a dandy carry-around camera.
Love my 70D. Years later it still holds up tbh. But it is time for full frame. Almost went R6 but need me some sigma and tamron; A7iv it is
When I come to RUclips to look up about cameras, this is the type of video I love and am impressed with. Not to long but enough for the right information I need. Great presenters, and overall great video.
It appears Canon is aiming for a lens monopoly. See the articles "These third-party Canon RF-fit lenses are being pulled from sale - but why?", "Viltrox Says Canon has Demanded They Stop Selling RF-Mount Lenses" and from Canon rumors: "The state of third-party lenses for the RF mount, Canon may be involved". For this reason, available glass will be limited and prone to monopolistic pricing. So my personal answer to 'Which Canon Mirrorless Camera should you buy?' is none of them. Sony slows down frame rate for third party lenses, but at least you can use them. The policy of Nikon is unclear to me, but Tamron is making a new Z lens (but it is basically a kit lens that nobody would want). I think any sensible person can see that these "buy only our line of products" positions are consumer hostile. If Canon follows forward with this policy, I will never buy a Canon mirrorless (I do have an M3, but that doesn't count). I don't need 30 frames per second, so I may never move to a mirrorless mount for my primary usage (I have Canon full frame and Nikon full frame DSLR cameras, and some older Sony alphas {but the Sony cameras are not for serious use}).
If I were a camera manufacturer I would not choose a formal policy that looks hostile towards the consumers of my products. Back in the day, Canon made something called L lenses that were better than any third party glass. So people bought those and Canon made money. There was nothing wrong with that model. I want choices and the safety of alternative vendors. Maybe DJI or Viltrox will make a camera that has a totally open API and mount and then they will bury these Japanese dealers.
People will say, "Use an adapter." but adapters always lose something. And I would not want my Sigma glass to suddenly stop working when the next Canon model comes out.
As a 100% Canon user I do 100% agree with this. I can not recommend a Canon mirrorless setup to anyone who needs to care about his gear budget at this point.
Tamron/Sigma etc should start producing cameras, competitive cameras.
@@mariusdan6147 Sigma does make cameras.
A note on adapters... Read your Canon warranty, Canon can void the warranty for use of unauthorized 3rd party products. And will your spiffy lens still work after the next firmware update? Will using it brick your camera? Nobody knows. I do hope Canon reconsiders this move.
Canon makes its money and profit on lenses. Cameras are a loss leader. They are currently making money hand over fist on their new RF lenses. This is good for them and the consumer. Canon not only makes a great camera, they make them so good that it would take a lot from someone else to make one nearly as good.
But for those a little wiser, the EF-RF control ring adapter is perfect allowing the use great EF (and EF-S) lenses being traded in for more expensive glass while still maintaining the functionality. Personally I like the location of the control ring closer to the camera with the adapter. I haven't bought an RF lens yet for my EOS-R. I am tempted on some, but the EF glass available at comparatively bargain prices is good. I am also sharing these lenses with my APSC 90D. My 100-400/4.5-5.6IIL works great on both! I do hear the R7 siren calling though...
Anyway, my R is a poor photographer's version of the 5D4, missing the second card slot, but with a great EVF system. I do love this camera! Favorite lens with it is the Canon 24-70/4 L IS.
Thank you! Finally a clear, detailed enough review of the different options to choose from.
Great info!
Would love to see a similar video reviewing Sony cameras. I've been using an a6500 for a few years. There are so many A7 cameras now, to pick through.
I use the A7RIV and it’s amazing, but could be a little better in low light. Still much better than my a6400. Id probably suggest the A7IV because a little better lowlight performance and still great resolution at 33MP rather than 61 on the RIV. For video the A7RIV is not much of an improvement at all from the a6000 series besides IBIS and full frame. (I know the R lineup is photo centric but it would have been nice to have the option of a higher fps 4K)
From someone who has used the Eye Focus on the R3 - I can absolutely assure you that it’s not gimmicky.
It’s fricken awesome. It follows faster than my brain can possibly comprehend.
I look. I press the shutter. Perfection.
It was pretty decent on the EOS 3 film camera 30 years ago. I've missed that. Would be really beneficial for side shots on a stage with multiple people.
Many people like calling things gimmick because they don't use it or see its value.
In all honest do you rely and trust the feature in the moment? Tony said the feature needs to be calibrated often, has that been your experience?
@@jamesfoureight9879 I trust it implicitly for a full 14-hour wedding day.
I find my outside and indoor profiles work well for most scenarios and only sometimes need to do a nighttime calibration for dance-floor shots.
I may calibrate 2-3 times during that 14-hour period at the absolute most.
It’s honestly incredible.
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Great summary! I use 2x R5 with great lenses like 85 1.2 RF / 28-70 2.0 RF and I LOVE them. But honestly, when it comes to value, the RP is amazing and unbeatable.
I ultimately went with the R6! R5 is a close second but I didn’t find the extra cost to be worth it for my needs.
@@christopherowens8313 The R6 is an excellent camera if it suits your needs! I personally like the R5's higher resolution to have more cropping options without losing quality. The viewfinder is also noticeably better. But it sure comes down to purpose and personal preference 🙂It's like choosing between two super cars.
I can't believe the R3 has eye following detection for focusing. I believe that stated with Canon way way back with the Film camera the Elan 7e which was my first Canon camera. The "E" stood for eye detection. So cool!
I still have my EOS 50E (same?) here (don't use it). I don't remember how much I used it, but it worked pretty well. But it only needed to cover a limited amount of AF points.
It makes sense to buy full frame lenses to an aps-c camera, because when you later switch to a full frame body, you will still be able to use them.
I went for Canon R6 + 24-105 mm F4 L lens. After many years I switched from Canon 550D + 15-85 mm. Now its time to decide to buy or 100-400 F5,6/8 or shorter 70-200 F4 L but with 1.4x or 2.0x gear.
With Canon's anti-consumer actions regarding third-party lenses, and their refusal (thus far) to issue a firmware update removing the 30 minute record limit on the R5/6..
Might I suggest a Sony camera?
Signed - A disgruntled Canon shooter.
theres always ef lenses you can use with canon adapter.
@@truthseeker6804 Okay, where can I buy a Tamron 35-150mm f/2-f/2.8 for EF mount? Or the "companion" 17-35 f/2-f/2.8...
Got the former for my Sony today, traded in my Canon gear
@@mbr5742 there’s always lenses to fulfill that range and aperture and there’s people who makes excuses
@@truthseeker6804 Nope. There is no single lens for CanNot that does. Well, there is for Sony so today 40+ years of Canon usage came to an end for me.
@@mbr5742 good bye then
Would like a video like this but for Sony and Nikon. Very informative to those starting out or looking to see if it is worth upgrading from crop to full frame
Thanks for the video but I wish you guys would of mentioned a few more things like which camera have IBIS.
As a current RP owner I also want to mention that the camera does have issues since it's their first and a lot of the new things in the newer RF cameras I wish they would throw some love on the R and RP with simple updates but they don't. The camera has 4k but it's contrast focus and is extremely cropped. At times it just feels more like a purposely built feature rather than a limitation especially since cameras like the m6 mark Ii has it.
I know it's a short video but little details like that makes me really want to upgrade to the R6 or R5.
Chelsea swings a mean bat. Perfect swing. Thank you for all that canon info, that was a lot of work.
Great presentation but there is no third-party glass for the series and too few budget options from Canon.
Note that her favorite was the RP with the 24-240. And they had 6 of them in studio. What does that say? That's why I purchased the RP with the 24-240. Read another review that stated the RP was basically a miniaturized 5D MkII. Put 400K photos on one of those. And music videos. It's still going with an IAIA student. Just love having a nearly "pocket" MkII. Photos with the RP24-240 combo are surprisingly good. Very workable in post or even SNAPSEED. Have also seen reviews stating the combo is a well kept secret. Certainly not as perfect as a new 5D but it's so small and tidy. If knowing what one is doing, gets the job done quite well.
I will continue enjoying my set of full frame Nikon gear I have since 2018 :-). I recently added a Z6ii to the kit. It just does not make sense to switch systems and Nikon is getting better all the time. Switching systems is simply not something a budget minded person would do, and today, really any system (Nikon, Sony, Canon, Fuji, etc.) is cool enough and more than good enough.
It's futile!
@@nellatrab whattt???
The ef/rf nd filter adaptor was something that interested me in staying with canon being that I already own ef glass and I do alot of outdoor video. So all I needed was a body and adaptor. So I went with the r6, and the 4K video is great. Rf glass seems great but the results I’m getting right now I’m very content with.
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the meike adapter also works great! one ND for all EF glass is amazing
You can just get the adaptor and use the whole EF mount. They are amazing lenses and third party options 🤷🏽♂️
I do not agree to say the crop sensors have limited lenses. The other way around yes. You can say you don't use the whole lens. However almost all lenses loose sharpness in the edges. So using a FF lens on a Crop sensor also has benefits. Also in case you ever want to upgrade you don't have to throw out your lenses.
You do miss something at the low end. FF wideangle and wideangle zooms are not what you want with APS-C. But everything from 35mm upwards is just for a different viewing angle and good in tele. I bought a R7 with the 18-150 which is really nice for vacation and most other motives and is very light. The 18-55 is too short in my opinion. You would need to switch lenses too often.
Helpful Video thank you @ 6:05 you compare R6/R7 IQ. At the Cropped equivalent, seems no difference? My test of the R6 cropped showed IQ degrades more than the R7 on outdoor subjects at 30-50 yds, a
real life sports situation
Another interesting story regarding Canon lenses... I was browsing a supplier website for a zoom RF lens to replace my Sigma 150 to 600 mm EF because of the focusing issues on the Canon R5. A chat box appeared and I asked who I thought was a retailer representative what he recommended... it turned out he was a Canon employee .... So I asked him about the Sigma issue and he said it was known issue and no plans to release the RF specs to Sigma so they could fix the issue. When I explained what I wanted to use the lens for he said my best option was the Canon 100 to 500 RF L series lenses and he kindly provided the link to the retailers listing ... £2,979 ! My Sigma cost be £749. No doubt the 100 to 500 RF L will take outstanding photos but for an amateur like myself I could buy a second hand car for that or pay my whole years energy bill (2022 only). If I wanted the Canon 10 to 500 RF L I would need to sell all my lenses including the R5 Body. I could perhaps then buy a second hand R or RP ! Doesn't make sense, so I may sell all my gear and switch to Sony or Nikon. Well done Canon.
Make sure to enjoy those 3rd party Nikon mirrorless lenses.......................
My Sigma 150-600 C has no issues on my R6.
Yeah, they want you to pay the premium prices. No thanks, for me.
There are a lot of Canon shooters using the 150-600mm on Canon EF bodies.... I have a lot of Canon products but can't recommend Canon's Rf system to them because of the problems with trying to use that lens. I once considered switching to Nikon and there was a program to change from Canon to Nikon mount due to the D850. You might see if they could change your mount to Nikon and use a converter but that might be cost prohibitive and Nikon only has one sports shooting camera as of today.
@@anthonyclements6020 I have the Canon 5D Mk IV and the Sigma 150-600 works just fine on that with the EF mount but the 5D doesn't have the Animal eye tracking and has a 32 megapixel sensor. I se no reason why the Sigma should not work on the R5 with Canons own RF ro EF adapter but it doesn't work 100%.leading to a lot of out of focus shots. Helping Sigma would be a nice gesture from canon as Sigma are not trying to reverse engineer an RF mount unlike Samyang and Viltrox. I think Canon are just being petty.
I started with a Canon digital Rebel my first real lenses were Tamron. I have a combination of Canon and Sigma lenses now, along with a 5D mk III, 5D mk II, and a 7D converted to shoot infrared. I supposed I will eventually need to move to mirrorless, but will resist as long as I can because I don't want to buy all new gear and sell what I have at a reduced value. If Canon does not allow third party lenses on their mirrorless when I am ready to switch, then I am unlikely to stay with the brand. Mind you, I have also helped five friends start out with their first DSLRs, and they are all on Canon.
As a film photographer and loyal Canon owner transitioning to digital, I was originally planning to get the EOS 250D/Rebel SL3/Kiss X10/200D II, but when I was told DSLR was being phased out, I looked at the R series. The R50 would've been okay if it weren't too small, so I settled with the R10 and I love it. I'll still be using my EOS 50/Elan II/55, but it's great shooting with both formats.
I started with the Canon rp and the 24-70 2.8 then got the 16-35 2.8 then a 70-300 4.5 and after a bunch of jobs got the R and haven’t felt the need to upgrade yet. The only thing I do wish I had was 120 fps at least at 1920x1080 sometimes 😅
I don't know if it's really fair to include the kit lenses, because when I had a 60D, I used regular EF lenses, frequently borrowing my dad's for his full frame camera, and they work just fine. I used a 100-400 with the 60D for wildlife photos, and it was nice to have the extra crop without having to crop it after transferring photos. Besides, if you're getting into photography and want to continue and get into it more, it's nice to have lenses that work on both. Sigma makes some great EF lenses that work fine with the adapter, and are a bit more affordable than Canon, as well as having more diverse offerings. I have the R and their lenses are pretty on part with the Canon L series lenses I've used. I ordered the R7, so I'll see how that goes. I probably wouldn't use the 50 on it, but I have a feeling that the 150-600 would be great on a crop sensor for getting pics of the moon. I know some people are like "no, you have to buy Canon L lenses for Canon cameras, they work the best!" But comparing the RF 50 1.2 to the Sigma 50 1.4, the images are exactly the same. Don't limit yourself to one brand, or one line of lenses, there are some great options. I got my Sigma 50mm used too, so if you have a local store, just walk in with your camera and an adapter, and see what they have secondhand. Sigma does have some APS-C lenses too, so if you have the adapter, go for it.
One thing nice about getting the original R is that it came with a bunch of extras, including a lens adapter. I use it maybe half the time I'm taking photos, and it's great. It will be interesting to compare the R and R7, as there's been a lot of technological advancement in that time. I might take it to the store in person (I'm in Canada, so we have Henry's and the staff are fantastic) and then try some different lenses or comparisons. I need to get more memory cards since the R7 takes two cards, and for shooting 4K, you pretty much need to have UHS-II cards, so I'd like to get a matching set.
I have been a Canon fan for over 35 years. The lack of 3rd party lenses is a big deal. I hate to say this at this rate my next camera is most likely NOT a Canon.
I have a DSLR 80D and now i am having serious thoughts about moving to canon mirrorless because of their third party lens policy
I own an RP body. Fully satisfied. The only caveat is battery life. Want to buy the RP, invest on an extra battery too. Amazing photos on kit lenses too.
The downside of Canon is the lack of reasonably affordable RF mount higher quality prime lens. For example, typical Nikon S-Line mirrorless lenses are less than $1000 for f/1.8. Not everyone needs f/1.2.
second hand ef lenses work really well on rf. or even new.
@@rokpodlogar6062 Adapting your existing EF lenses is one thing but buying a collection of additional EF lenses just to use them with an RF camera because of some political decision on Canon's side is just ridiculous.
@@2point7182818284590 well, that's one way of looking at it. the other would be, there is a bunch of people trying to unload ef lenses to switch fully to rf line and that could drive the prices down a bit. you only need to buy one ef2rf adapter and the difference in prices between rf and ef are quite a lot. i only bought 1 rf lens, the all around 24-105 and i'm still jusing my ef-s and ef lenses with both my dslr and the new rf. interestingly my third party tokina ef-s 11-16mm has no sensor crop limiter on my rf camera, only the physical vignetting, which is kind of cool. at 16mm it's still a 16 mm without the vignette.
@@rokpodlogar6062 I got that very same Tokina and my wife also said she likes that vignette when she saw it.
@@rokpodlogar6062 The one "budget" RF lens I can recommend is the 35 1.8. They are being sold on the used market also these days.
I've been using full frame lens on aps-c bodies my whole life starting with the first digital rebel and Ive had no problem. Actually I love the range I get from using FF lens on crop bodies. The advantage is that you can use your lens on both bodies but if you have aps-c lens, you can't use them on a full frame body.
Think the R7 is way better than just a camera for birds.
I'll buy the one that allows third party lenses please. Which models are those again? Seriously Canon's RF lenses strategy and Australian pricing I why I quit them after 20 years. Just wish I had left them years earlier.
I miss Milford Camera... Jesse does awesome classes and is outstanding with his advice.
Breaking it down very nicely for those considering the Canon system like myself. Not sure I can afford the glass tho.
I know you guys get paid for the sponsorships, but I still wanted to say thank you for having a local business as a sponsor. B&H Photo, Adorama, Amazon might have great deals, but the care that you get from a local business outweighs any perceived savings.(Actually, the national camera companies aren't really that much cheaper, based on comparisons with my local shop.) Plus, if you support the local business long enough, you become a familiar face to the workers, and you tend to get some perks, for example, when the R7 started shipping, my local store got two of them, they called me before others on their wait-list.
God....im still using my T2i. Thats the inly camera i have. Im kind of stuck having to like it even with all this increduble new tech out there. Wishing you all the best with all the new tech
Brilliant! I have had an M50 for some years and want to upgrade, within the Canon system. I think I am not alone in that situation. But to which camera? Your video answered that precise question. Tnx a million!
If you've got an M50, you can go anywhere. None of the lenses are compatible with the R bodies. Check out Tony and Chelsea's newest video on Canon banning 3rd party lenses, if you haven't already. If you're ready to ditch the M50, you should definitely check out the Sony and Nikon options - or even something like Lumix S, if you're going to do a lot of video.
@@hoodie3810 Tnx a lot for sharing your suggestions! I have some older lenses but it's not the use of them in the future that interest me the most, but which Canon camera is most suited for my photography. Or rather, I was interested in that. With Canon using its power to crush competition, I will, as you also suggest, change to another brand.
Love my R5 had it since it came out. One thing i would have mentioned however is a good reason to pick up the R10 or R7 for wildlife is the crop factor. It allows you to get a little closer with the same lens. I used to do this when I had the D500 and 200-500 combo and it was like having a teleconverter without the hit in IQ.
not so. The R5 can enable an in-camera sensor crop of 1.6x. Not sure why they didn't share that info. It is very important to know.
@@allthingsbrazil in camera sensor crop is not the same thing as a cropped sensor lens. Pixel density would be different.
@@nvwolfephotography good enough for me and many other photographers.
First great informative video! The issue I have with all camera manufacturers is that they all failed to implement technology from smartphones. Living in period where there is inflation and recession it makes it a little harder to decide whether or not to buy a new mirrorless camera with a new mount. But these manufacturers know all too well that they will come out ahead if they take their time. However if companies like Yonguo are getting a jump start on smartphone tech in their cameras, Canon, Sony and Nikon are gonna spend 2 or 3 years playing catch up. But who has the patience? Either you want in or you miss out! I've missed out on taking great photos at night that my iPhone 11 just can't match a dslr!
Try fujifilm. They do.
@@zedrickapollo4290 Can you be a little more specific? And I'm assuming your referring to a full frame.
@@zedrickapollo4290 What does Fujifilm have that no other manufacturer do?
@@veeaa Absolutely nothing.
Well if a world brand such as the big company of yonguo has something the rest can`t stay behind. Do they already have a great set of fast primes available.......
Right now Canon RF mount cameras are for EF mount users to switch camera body painlessly.
For newbies there are other cheaper options.
the new canon r7 and r10 have no competition.
I've been carrying my RP around in my backpack while traveling around the world. Love it. One day I'll upgrade to the R6.
5:20 Little bit of misinformation here - there's absolutely nothing stopping you using any RF lens on any R body, APS-C sensor bodies will just crop in 1.6x, the mount is the same. There's a VERY limited range of RF-S lenses specifically for APS-C sensors, but even these still give you a cropped field of view for any given focal length, Canon's own website says so, they're just smaller and lighter and cheaper for these crop sensor cameras.
Chelsi mentions that the R3 has an AA filter but don't the all have that filter? Also, Tony never talked about IBIS (unless I missed it) that is lacking in the R and RP cameras or that the R (or is it RP) doesn't have the sensor shield protection offered in the R7 and above cameras.
Well AA filters vary in strength but the R3 seems particularly heavy.
Chelsea. How dare you….
The answer is: none of them, as long as Canon doesn't support 3rd party glass. Buy Sony, Nikon (or OM-1 if you're a wildlife shooter) instead.
Hi, sorry, but did you make a mistake @ 6:20? The one on the right is completely blurry, why di you say that it's better than the one on the left? I don't understand 🤔
12:37 No thanks!!! I can get a used low shutter count Olympus EM1 Mark3 for 1000$!!! It has Handheld High-Res Mode 80MP, Focus stacking, Focus Bracketing, BEST IBIS , excelent light inexpensive lens, 15frames mechanical, 60 frames electronic shutter, Pro Capture Mode!!! and so on....
This review was a great reminder regarding an important point on sensors, specifically made for the R7 vs R6 here in this video, but can apply to other cameras in general. The IQ isn't just dependent on the number of sensor megapixels (pixel density), it also depends on the design/quality/tech of the sensor itself. A more sophisticated higher tech but lower megapixel sensor may have better IQ compared to a lesser tech sensor that has more megapixels.
having an L Series Lens instead of a terrible kit lens also helps
@@Toamserippa Kit lenses... why they are still a thing?
Just let the customer decide which he wants to be his "kit" lens... my personal kit lens and only lens was for a while a 50mm 1.4 with trashy autofocus, later a 28-105mm as "universal" (it obviously wasnt on APS-C!)
Even within the RF lineup there are nice "kit" lenses:
the RF 35 and 50mm primes
RF 24-105 non L is pretty sharp! (but for my taste too expensive already)
24-70L if you want the "L"
100mm 2.8L Macro... probably THE lens hard to ever regret! I just afforded a 2nd hand EF version, superb Macro lens and i guess its also nice for portrait. The 900-1100$ i saved with the EF version were also worth it, i love "budget" stuff!
The huge game changer was Tamron announcing it will make the 70-300mm zoom lens (same one as the Sony mount). That’s something I was looking forward to, and might make me get a Z6.
Canon doesn’t make one in RF mount. The EF 70-300mm was discontinued, and a used one is a bit expensive.
I also agree, however i also think that NIkon(or canon or Sony) should make a decent 500$ kit. This gets people in and keeps you on the brand.
With Canon blocking 3rd party lenses, it would be best to hold off of Canon for not until they get their licensing sorted out.
why would you buy a canon body & put 3rd party lenses on it. I always thought high quality glass was most important
@@lovemycity420 options are important. Some third party glass is even better than first party glass, either when comparing for price or by equivalent lens model. Sometimes a given lens type is not available at all from a first party. Also, the availability of good third party options creates competition that forces the first party to make more useful lenses for better prices. Canon is being very anti-competitive recently and it is convincing a lot of users to go with Sony instead, which ultimately will be bad for Canon. Open and/or accessibly-licensed lens mounts are good for everyone; Canon's strategy here is short-sighted.
@@gabedamien I heard your argument, but I don’t agree. The biggest most valuable company in the world operates the same way(apple) people been crying saying exactly what you just said, but miraculously they dominate the market! Maybe your right, apple doesn’t know shit😭
living with the RP for few years and i still love it
cant find any other fullframe with the same price point anymore
When I started shooting wedding videos, I relied on sigma glass for my second and third cameras. I purchased Canon lenses for my main, but could not afford or needed expensive lenses for my two other angles.
Stopping third party lenses will be a problem for Canon in the future
@@joshualaird5303 but people want modern new lenses with the correct mount, not some adapted lens
@@richarddutchholland4780 Sony is killing it thanks to Tamron and Sigma options
Which is hardly a problem because Canon makes some of the best glass you can get and can mount a plethora of third party lenses in EF mount for those few unique lenses you can get. And right now there is almost zero in the way of third party lenses meant for mirrorless which aren't redundant already. And Canon is adding to the RF system rapidly.
@@johnrus7661 yes…very expensive lenses or very poor performing ones, “Way to go Canon”
Would like to see a comparison of the R7 and R5 image quality with the same L glass. I'm suspecting that Canon will eventually have a full frame sensor that is the same pixel density as the R7. A cropped in image of the R5 to match the image size of the R7 might give that comparison with a lens that can resolve it.
thank you so much for making this video, I have been researching for two weeks and I just cant decide. This video really helped.
Great video, I have an RP and its amazing suits all my needs.
Well heck! I'm a beginner with a RP, and have been dead-set on upgrading to the R6. Now you've got me thinking I might need to tuck away a little more cash for the R5. Thanks a lot y'all!
For Landscape still going wild with the R. best buy I did in years.
I have a few L series EF lenses (70-200) and the (17-40) My sports subjects have all grown up and got married. I basically need something to take interior kitchen, baths, etc. for my cabinet work. My last camera was the 20D which is not full framed. I'm thinking the EOS RP with the 17-40 l series lens would be good to achieve website photos without breaking the bank and still be able to get full use out of my lenses....mainly the wide 17mm to get a full wall in the shot. My 20d is so ancient the pixels weren't that high and I could never get full use out of the wide angle L lens. Agree?
The big exception to the full frame and crop sensor lens and Camera combination is the R7 with the RF100-400mm. That lightweight and enjoyable to carry combo gives you 640mm field of view in an incredibly small package for Birds wildlife and bugs blooms and butterflies. It's short minimum focusing distance makes it great for almost everything! The R7 with that lens is also very inexpensive.
I've just upgraded to the R5 (from Olympus) and while I'm fine for the moment just having a single-body set-up (or if I need two, bringing my Olympus but of course having to bring more lenses) I think the R7 would be my choice for second body just because of the versatility of the second body being a crop sensor. In, y'know... a few years time.
If the light is good.
How long in inches is that lens fully extended?
I'm not a professional photographer and already have a fullframe DSLR for 8 years but still watch this video for more reasons to stay with the current gear. LOL.
I'm torn between the R5 and the R6 ii. I *CRAVE* megapixels, but, my budget means I'll probably end up with the R6 ii.
By far one of the best explanations for cannon cameras thank you so much
This is the best buying guide on these. Thank you!
i really like the shape of canon r3, the texture and the curves, looks like a very futurisitic than it is. plus with the new rf lenses, i think this is one of the aestheticaly appleasing camera out there. sorry sony you're still second.
Hey, i have a question regarding camera choice and i cant really solve it myself and hoped you may be able to help me with all the experience you have. Im kinda stuck in my decision between the R5, R3, Z9 and A1. I havent invested im any ecosystem yet and price isnt a deciding point here. I think i mainly want to take wildlife pictures, but may want to dip into sports in the future. Additionally all things family picture related. Are 24MP of the R3 enough to print big family pictures? Is the better ISO of the R3 relevant? All these question made it impossible for me to get to a well thought through conclusion. But maybe you can help me with that. Thank you and great content as always!
Did you again use a kit lens on the R7 to talk about that the resolution of the sensor does not matter? The important point is that without great glass on the R7, it’s sensor will work against you. It is not cost effective to put wide angle full frame zoom lenses on a crop sensor, but after 35mm, it is not a terrible idea. Every sensor using the nifty 50 at f4 would have been a fair test.
Very good informative video Tony ! The R5 is the camera that I was waiting for. It is expensive but since it has been firmwares updated (1.52 + 1.60) it is worth every hard saved penny. This video will help people to decide for sure. Good job !
And now with another amazing firmware update coming soon!
Thank you so much for laying out all the options so plainly! Great segment! Stay safe out there!
I'll say the same as I usually say - if you have to ask which one - buy ANY of them that you can afford. If you HAVE to ask, you don't NEED most of the functions and specs they offer.
Ok bro
I have my mind already set for the Canon R5. I will be renting one for a week to try out in a football game and a high school reunion photoshoot to try before buying. I also have to rent out the EF to EOS R adapter since I already have the 24-70mm F/2.8, 70-200mm F/2.8 and the Sigma 50mm F/1.4 Art lens. I also like the Clog 3 already built in the camera for video at 4K/120fps. Even though it can record at 8K I never record beyond 4K. It's just too big for post production. As of now I have the Canon 5D Mk IV.
Thanks for this video really broke down the R line well and now I have a clear idea of what i will consider buying
Great video! I’m considering purchasing a full frame mirrorless, and don’t have any brand loyalty, or investment in lenses. I would love to see a similar one for Sony, and Nikon. While you’re at it, why not do the same for Panasonic & Fuji? I’ve got to say, the comments about Cannon’s lens policy are very educational and do give me something to consider.
Apple vs PC/Windows. Canon is like Apple and is adopting their business model. Canon is easier to use and just feels great. Just like Apple. I am a Canon shooter and a PC/Windows user but do use the iPhone. Go figure...
I own both the R5 and R6. With the R5, you may need a better computer for processing images given the large file sizes.
Great summary. Thanks. I have the R5 and I love it.
I wouldn't recommend buying any Canon R camera. Not because of their cameras but because of their lenses. The current lens selection is sub-par at best. Canon has no intention to open the RF mount for any competition. Their lens line up allows you to select between plastic waste or a brick (50mm/f1.8= $200 vs 50mm/f1.2 $2300). Lenses lack innovation, are bulky, heavy and expensive or they are cheap, loud AF, slow or require you to stop down to f5.6 to get sharp images. The only credit I can give them is for their lens IBIS but what else???? I don't know...they are Canon and when you use Canon ... you are Canon Shooter. Well, that's at least something - I guess.
Have you used any of those "plastic" RF primes? I own all of the RF non-L primes and they are all amazing, lightweight, super sharp wide open and AF is very good, in 85 2.0 could be better but it is not a sport lens, it is a lightweight portrait lens
@@pawebaran3601 well said.
@@pawebaran3601 I've tried the 35mm/50mm RF plastic at my local Canon dealer. The 50mm is amazing for $199 but nothing more. I've also tried the 50mm/f1.2 and while I had no optical complaints, I didn't enjoy the weight, the front-focusing design and the clicky AF noise in Servo AF. I don't know what it is, but I get picky with premium products at a certain price point. Here is the problem, there aren't many RF lenses I would highly recommend, as of today. Heck, there are so many prime lenses missing in a balanced lens line up. Again, personal opinion - I know. Competition would address some of those. Thanks to "competition" Canon finally came out with the Canon R and good cameras like the R3/R5/R6. Canon users would still be using their DSLR in 2022 if it wasn't for S**y. Competition drives innovation.
I missed this when it first came out. Thanks for pointing out that you had covered Canon. Now I’m looking ahead to seeing one on the Nikon lineup.
I’ve been wanting to buy a nice camera for about six months or so, after watching your channel for about a year I decided on the R7. Today I bought it, come home all exited, turn to your channel so I can watch the video you have on tutorials and settings (newbie here) and I see this video 🤦🏽♂️….I’m not even going to look at it just in case…😂BTW my wife and I love the channel.
The R and RP don't have IBIS and don't do Slo mo...those cameras are lacking, they are also slow in the snap counts.
Hi there, been a long time subscriber. Also been a very long time been out of the game of photography. I have the Canon 500D and looking to take up photography again with a up to date camera and found out that Mirrorless have taken over. I’m mainly doing landscape and seascape photography but don’t have the budget for the R5 what are my other options. Also I don’t have any lenses now but would like to go down the route on L series lenses and a full frame. Thanks . This was my first go to channel on photography too . Good work
I can't decide wether to buy Canon R7 or the RP or the R. I'm an one-person agency, so I take photos, videos and all that stuff for marketing purposes. From time to time I shoot some photos indoors but my SL3 is not as good as I wanted it to be in low light enviroments, and make me think about buying a fullframe over the R7 (I think the R7 is the best bang for my buck, but unfortunately it's APS-C)
I have a 77D and I am currently testing Rp, with a tamron 150-600 77d is better because it has a crop and brings pets closer but the Rp has better noise tolerance when taking photos in dark rooms or in the evenings, I know that you can't have everything, that's why I have a dilemma. I thought that the noise from the 77d can always be removed with Dx0 which works great in denoising raws. Rp seems ok but I miss something in it, it's a pity that R7 is not included in the price of Rp :) and my dream is to test R3 with some Canon 500 2.8 :D
One thing you guys didn't mention: The R6 actually has sharper 4k video than the R5. Granted, it doesn't have the filetype diversity, but still. Most people these days want great 4k video and the R6 seems to do it on a budget with roughly the same overheating time of the R5.
I've been happily in DSLR-land for 20 years, since I bought my original Canon 300D, which I still have and which still delivers nice results. I've added a 20D, 7D Mk II, and finally a 1DX Mk III to my arsenal. Save for a soon-to-be-delivered Sigma 150-600C and an old Tokina 19-35 that I've had for years, all of my lenses are Canon EF or EF-S. I've really never given much thought to moving to mirrorless, since my hardware is all in great shape and will probably last longer than I will. However, lately I've found myself getting more and more tempted to add an R6 Mk II to my kit. Knowing that I can use the EF-RF adapter to continue using my Canon glass is a big incentive. I'm still not 100% sure, but the scales seem to be tilting towards a purchase. After all, Christmas is coming…😉
Thanks for the excellent info! But, that is the worst golf swing 9:45! hahaha!
I am still leaning towards the 90D instead. better specs as the R10 and the rest is just way to expensive.
I've been a DSLR APS-C shooter, using a 7D for years and adding a 40D. I've spent hours trying to decide if I want to add a full-frame DSLR or add a mirrorless, and if that, APS-C or full-frame. Something tells me that sticking to APS-C and having a fuller feature set will matter more to me than the advantages (ultra-fine details) of a full-frame body Plus, I'm absolutely not going to buy pro-level glass. I don't plan to shoot sports or action wildlife, and I don't need 4K video. Landscapes, architecture, portraits, still-lifes, normal light stuff, and FHD video are my thing. Maybe I should settle for an R100.
Ugh 😑. I feel like I made a mistake buying the Canon 90D! I know I can’t afford anything over $1,500-$1,800.
I’m assuming I will be ok when I buy a really good lens?
I like wildlife, landscapes, and macro, so I’m struggling on what lens I want to get.
Anyone with some advice, please comment. Thank you in advance.
So great reviews and very good explanations, not just tech all, a good mix! I like the way you are and you are amazing : ) Thanks Chelsea and Tony!
After hearing Chelsea praise the Nikon D850 I bought one after forty years of buying Canon. I’m not getting sucked into the mirror less market like the camera companies want us to. Dslr produces great images and my D850 with native snd Sigma glass is a breath of fresh air after being tied to Canon for so long, I’m hanging onto my 5D iii though, can’t part with it yet. To many memories!
I have a D850 too and love using it. But the Z7ii... oooft. That thing performs. As much as I love holding a chunky reliable DSLR, the mirrorless features like eye- and subject-detect AF are a whole new game, and as much as I was reluctant to use a digital viewfinder it's actually a lot nicer than I was expecting.