Most mirrorless cameras don't have the top deck LCD screen, that most DSLRs have on top. That thing is so badly needed. With that small LCD, the rear one can be completly closed, all settings are on the top one.
I went into this video not knowing if I'd rather have a DSLR or Mirrorless camera. After watching this video and waffling back & forth 17 times I'm, w/o a doubt, 100% sure I'm going to buy the...umm, well, either a DSLR or a Mirrorless camera! Good, informative video nevertheless!
If you're looking for a camera for commercial use I'd suggest one of the Sony mirrorless cameras, but they're not cheap and neither are the lenses. So if you don't plan on using the camera a lot, I'd stick with a DSLR. If you want to learn more about mirrorless, search Jason Lanier on youtube, he has great reviews on all the sony mirrorless cameras.
If you're looking for your first camera, I'd go with an affordable mirrorless. Affordable because you'll want to upgrade in no time if you like photography, and quit if you don't. Mirrorless because that's the future. And I'm saying that as an owner of two Nikon DSLRs and nine lenses for that system. I love my gear and it gets the job done, but I feel like for a beginner in 2019, there's no reason to get used to DSLRs in a time when every company is going mirrorless. If I were you, I'd look at the Fuji X-T3, Sony a6400 or Sony a7 III, depending on budget and personal preference. Not specs, not reviews - picking them up and seeing which feels best.
@@youknowwho9247 I am afraid that a high quality affordable mirrorless does not exist as their price tag is equal to top range DSLRs. DSLRs come in much larger variety of prices.
@@paulbreedveld4921 If you're just starting photography, then getting any top end gear is a waste of money. You don't know what preferences you'll develop. I'd recommend buying a used, affordable kit and playing with that for a while. When you've developed a shooting style and discovered your likes and dislikes, then upgrade to something top notch. The number one thing you see with photography beginners is buying expensive gear that doesn't suit their needs or gathers dust on a shelf. If I were you, I'd get myself a used X-T3/X-T30 or a used a6400 after testing them in the shop and see what happens. You can always re-sell them after a few months and get that juicy full frame when you actually know what you want and need from a camera.
Good content...but totally biased for Sony / Canon possibly. Olympus mastered mirrorless, and IBIS 5 first...but you didn't say anything about them...again you brought other brands them.
Mirrorless have come along way in the last 3 years since you made this video. I got the Canon R7 and it is better than my Canon 90D. The start up is just as fast and it has very good auto focus just like the 90D. This video was very informative and helpful.
I'm about to purchase another cannon is been a while for... I'm considering a 90D and a EOS R.... as a hybrid camera...which would you recommend and have you used the new R lens or using an adapter....for dslr lens
@jlang1959 HI, I own both the 90D and the R7. The R7 is the better camera. I did buy it with the 18-150mm RF kit lens. But I also bought the adapter to use all my older EF lenses as well. But I find myself rarely using and other lens than the kit lens. I mostly do some general photography and shoot video of special events at my church. I usually throw my 90D on the tripod using the 18-135mm lens for filming. Then I use my lighter to hold R7 to take stills and also zoom in for some closeups to film. I also us a Rodes microphone on the 90D to capture sound.
@SchardtCinematic I appreciate the response... but question was about the EOS R and 90D... I can't really validate paying for an R5, R6 or R7 for my use, the question I guess is should I just be going mirroless at the point? The 90D and EOS R are at simular price points and like the middle of the field
@jlang1959 Mirrorless is definitely the way to go. What is your price range? I'm on B&H website now. I figured the EOS R was discontinued by now. But I guess not. So that's good. It lists for $1,104.95 currently brand new. What kind of photography are you into?
Best camera systems comparison I have ever seen. Complex, to the point and without strong biases. Loved the new technologies presentation as it developed over time.
@Sandy Lee I'm 53, non-snowflake, non NPC, non everything you just hurled and my astro-photos are the absolute best on my Canon DSLR's. Nothing else even comes close.... except my dedicated astro cameras. Way more technical than most even comprehend. Ease up on connecting snowflakes with DSLR's because the opposite is true. The anti-capitalist camera purchaser supports capitalism by purchasing Sony mirrorless. Kind of a known thing these days. That is after they Sell (once again, supports capitalism) their non-RAW Nikons. Good day.
I'm old school from film to today's digital dslr and looking through a viewfinder rocks. No touch screen,just the buttons and dials. I love the ergonomics of a dslr. I for one will never switch.
Most mirrorless cameras don't have the top deck LCD screen, that most DSLRs have on top. That thing is so badly needed. With that small LCD, the rear one can be completly closed, all settings are on the top one.
Keep in mind you are getting lens cropping with DSLRs, something both film and mirrorless cameras do not face. With mirrorless 50mm is 50mm, same as film.
Took me ages to switch and when I did I was like wtf did I wait so long for?! Felt like having an old film camera again true satisfaction and the quality is fantastic. Love using mirrorless for video too. And everything so compact. Brilliant.
If youre a new photographer, getting a budget mirrorless camera is a good idea. It's much easier learning on a mirrorless. But even in 2021, while mirorless are rapidly catching up. DSLR's still have that edge and which system you pick really depends on your use.
@@TheMrprosyndicateI use them professionally all the time. Mirrorless cameras are an overhyped marketing programme designed to make you spend your hard earned money on something tha is not effectively better, no cheaper, not effectively faster, no more comfortable and uses a digital view finder. A mirror is an accurate reflection of what you see, a digital viewfinder is a pixelated interpretation of what you see. It simply can’t be better than actual light. I hope Nikon and Canon keep making DSLR’s
@@TheMrprosyndicate So what? Agencies and art directors follow trends and what 61 megapixels blah blah blah. Pros have to follow the upgrade nightmare to keep in the game. We are obsessed with ultra high definition etc despite it looking artificial and fake. it's not unusual to hear a professional photographer saying they use one Camera for their work but something entirely different when they want to go out and have fun and enjoy their art.
My D7200 had 2 bars on its battery, I had no spare atm, and my wife wanted to go to the beach. I snapped 200-250 shots... still had 2 bars of battery. That alone make mirrorless a hard sell for me.
is it that hard to keep spare batteries charged or have the ability to charge batteries while driving? Your argument could be used by people who shoot using film and manual cameras: why buy a camera that require batteries?
@@EdwinChenLoo Life sometimes gives you lemons. I have 2 batteries, and 1 just died... firmware death (cause that's a thing lol). I'm not an actively working photog and most of my photography is my own personal stuff. If I'm going to a paid gig, OK, bring the kitchen cabinet while you're at it. But my point is that my D7200 isn't tied to a bag of batteries or a wall outlet just to whip out and go taking pictures. I've shot all day at an air show, on high speed continuous, and filled my 64GB cards on a single battery. I can literally just grab my camera with a versatile lens and run around shooting all day worry free with no bag. A film camera can't go bagless all day long on 36 shot rolls. My DSLR requires no bags of film or batteries. It just waits for me to press the button and does it's job with capacity for 1500-2000 shots.
Let's not forget that even manual film cameras have required batteries for a very long time. I mean, they were tiny watch cell type batteries, but even the Pentax ME Super that was my first "real" camera required a battery (or several when I attached the auto-winder)
Yeah for real, my DSLR can hold a charge for like 1 week straight on vacation its awesome. I always take a spare battery but rarely change it. I have a nikon d5500. With 35mm f1.8 nikkor and a 11-16 wide angle f2.8. I'm planning on getting a full frame soon.
I love DSLR for the heavy body (= less or slower shakes and good grip) and the real shutter and mirror sounds, but mirrorless allowing us to use a whole variety of lenses is what wins me over. Other than that, it really depends on the kind of project and what's best for it
Mirrorless also have real, mechanical shutters. It just doesn't have a mirror. Silent shooting (electronic shutter) is an option on both DSLR and mirrorless. So not sure what your point even is here.
I love the clunk of dslr cameras but all I have is mirrorless. Maybe I can go full dslr crazy and get a Pentax or something wacky in the future. But for now mirrorless gets the job done.
@@13_cmi all the artist's choice. DSLRs have a better shutter sound. I got BMP6k Pro but lack of shutter sound depresses me, like in some situations, it's a blessing for silence and in others, it feels lonely 😂😂😂😂 But, the solution is, to have a mirrorless, dslr and... drumroll... slr, for that saxy shutter sound and all the mechanics. So, it's just a choice and based on what your project demands. Enjoy all. Paint on canvas, glass, photoshop, vr, hologram or let AI do it. 🤘🏽
Composition in a TLR camera like the Rollei was never an issue because of the parallax correction built into the viewing lens mechanism. I used one for nearly 20 years - one of the best film cameras ever.
Proof that it's not always the "latest" and "trendiest" cameras that make the difference. There's also something called "knowledge" of optics, timings, light and reflection which play a major role in taking great pictures.
@Strawberry Kiys it might seem so, but he still defined the terms quite well, he deserves some credit for that. Canon's dual pixel Auto Focus system tracks subjects by detecting light and colour. It applies the rules of composition quite well and it does so by tracking subjects in the depth of field given by the lenses, but the Phase Detect system by sony is somewhat different as the sensors intelligently tracks faces when the subject is placed at a distance and eyes when the subject is much closer. I'm a canon shooter, I use the canon 6dii 80d, 800d and the 750d and I'm quite conversant with the dual pixel autofocus system as it's made my work easier, though I havent used sony cameras so much, I know phase detect is much better with subject tracking after using the sony a7r ii once side by side with the canon 6dii.
While most of the comments over here show a clear confirmation bias, one has to agree that mirror less is the future and there's no other way about it. It's like saying that I prefer the slow and cumbersome speeds of 3G internet more than the snapiness of 4G (now 5G). That being said, mirror less are nascent and in their initial stages, being just a little over a decade older, hence the higher cost to adapt to the ecosystem. As the market evolves and newer iterations are released, things are going to smooth out. Eventually, it all boils down to the famous statement which says that the best camera for you is the camera that you can afford.
Same here, have smaller cameras and the batteries just do not last, no good for any kind of remote location. D750 has been my favourite for a couple years now.
Wierckx apparently you have no clue what you’re talking about. The battery issue was solved in Sony cameras with the latest range and they outlast dslr batteries with ease. You’re just using the typical “I’m afraid of change so I’ll make up some reason not to” argument. You’re obviously talking from an ignorant standpoint and have never used something like and a7111 or a9, because if you had used one you’d know that they far out perform a d750. Nothing in the Nikon line up can compete with the a9 for auto focus, not even a d5. Maybe stop listening to fuckwits like the angry photographer and actually use the camera yourself before drawing an uninformed conclusion?
Just a Globe lol I hear that. I've been looking at the camera as well. But I can't justify spending money on new gear when I simply don't have the need for it just yet
I'll stick with my DSLR until the mirrorless prices come down to a comparable level. Then again, maybe not. I'm happy with my camera and lenses. They've done me well.
Same with me. I do believe mirrorless is a better tech, I used both systems and there are more advantages to the mirrorless technology. But not at this price. I will stick to a DSLR for a while before mirrorless lenses get a bit cheaper.
Andrzej Janiak some of the most affordable mid/high end cameras are Mirrorless and Samyang makes super affordable lenses. Fuji also has some more budget oriented glass that is great for what you pay
@@Kelson01 ...so making informed decisions is a bad idea? it's so funny when people think they are smart when they are actually being quite stupid. You want a camera to take pictures with. You probably already own a camera, if you own a cellphone. It costs you nothing. To buy anything else to take pictures with will cost you money. So why would you buy another camera when you already have one? How much information do you need to know to make a good decision in this situation?
Most mirrorless cameras don't have the top deck LCD screen, that most DSLRs have on top. That thing is so badly needed. With that small LCD, the rear one can be completly closed, all settings are on the top one.
@@touristguy87 You must be a total gas at parties, what with your superiorist, dismissive attitude. Tell us more about what a genius you are and what a bunch of bumpkins we are.
It's funny, though I had a film SLR back as a teen, I really got into photography right when the first mirrorless cameras came out ... in 2009! I was going to buy a DSLR, but after seeing the Panasonic Lumix GF1, I decided that I had to have it. Been using mirrorless ever since. So, for me, it hasn't "come out of nowhere" at all, but rather has been a long, slow road to the cameras that we have now. There were always advantages to mirrorless systems, but they were outweighed by the early technological deficiencies (e.g., really bad low-res, laggy EVFs.) In 10 years, though deficiencies have all by gone away, while the advantages have strengthened. With a few niche exceptions (e.g., top-end sports), they are at least a viable alternative, if not a clearly better choice.
I think they blew up so much because companies like Sony and Fuji shattered the market with those all of a sudden. They were just as good as the pro DSLR with a few drawbacks which are easy compromisable. They offered new technologies and advantages. They also offered the promise of being lighter and less noticable. Technically the first ever phone with a camera was a mirrorless camera - but as said, most companies didn't want to adopt those for interchangeable lens systems. Look at Canon and Nikon who went along when Sony released their Sony Alpha 7RIII (generally speaking, their Alpha 7 (R/S) III line) and they have many of the drawbacks the first Sonys had (if I remember this correctly and got told so correctly by reviews). It's awesome to see them on the rise and I wish that companies will focus more on them while not letting down DSLR. And it is also very complicated being all the time on top of the technical side of photography, even I as a "gear-addict" (I love to see new gear and see reviews and read all the things about them and stuff ... The only way I can live it out since I got no money) have problems keeping up with all the news. Surely, I didn't learn anything new about mirrorless cameras from this video but I'll recommend it to all the people who wanna know and wanna know especially the differences of those. This video is pure gold! :D Have a nice evening/day/morning, whenever you might read this! :D
@@niclikescakes nope. That's not a given. Just because a DSLR has more mechanical parts to potentially fail does not mean that they're short-lived or have a shorter lifetime than mirrorless. Food for thought: all the technical parts which weren't a thing in DSLR can break/fail, too. It's all about using it correctly. My EOS 600D/Rebel T3i has not once let me down (except, I didn't reload the batteries... Which is... Stupid, to be honest). It's still doing it's job after almost six years. So, the thing is, we also have to assume how long cameras are being used by people. Camera bodys get changed more frequently than lenses... So, we should have to asked the average lifetime of a camera for one person (so, how long does one use it) vs the expected lifetime of a camera (how long is it useable after assembling it). I assume most DSLRs are built with at least 5-10 years of functionality. Next question needs to be: How expensive is it to replace the different parts that fail...
@@playeronthebeat I agree with you to an extent, but all mechanical systems have a potentially shorter lifespan, I'm not saying Dslrs aren't durable, but normal wear shock and other factors could have a bigger impact on the lifespan. phones are made like sandwiches because they have to withstand abuse, there are little to no moving parts, I don't see why a mirrorless camera wouldn't potentially be more durable/last longer thinking under this same idea.
Tzar Nicholas II of Russia i got a nikon d5300, 3 lens (ones $2700 when it came out), 2 high quality tripods, a lume cube, and a $100 camera bag (and other accessories) all for $600. a steal i say
One aspect I personally prefer in my SLR’s is the dust control the mirror provides. Changing lenses in a dusty environment is a great way to f up your sensor and ensuing images. I can rely on my SLR mirror to effectively control that problem. Cleaning my mirror is nowhere near as touchy a process as cleaning my sensor
Great info! My favorite feature of the mirrorless cameras is the EVF. Being able to see what your exposure will be will looking through the view finder is an extreme time saver! 😀
@@douggoodhill then why are you watching a screen right now? or even taking pictures, look at stuff with your eyes! who needs a camera XD that it is a tool not like you still have eyes, right?
@@douggoodhill There's a difference. An optical viewfinder can't show you much information when you look through it, since it's mostly fixed and just shows you the real word. With an EVF, you can add whatever you want; Zebras, Histograms, Focus peaking, battery indicators, settings indicators, balance level and so much more! Furthermore, you can avoid getting blinded by the sun when you aim your camera upwards, and when you adjust exposure settings you can actually see what it's going to look like before you take your shot.
Most mirrorless cameras don't have the top deck LCD screen, that most DSLRs have on top. That thing is so badly needed. With that small LCD, the rear one can be completly closed, all settings are on the top one.
Been doing photography for 10 years, still prefer Nikon's DLSR for work use But to be honest sony's mirrorless cameras are great. Alpha line cameras are great. While light with a series of lenses perfect for all situations, the results done by them are as great as all DSLRs
Lots of useful info. I tried mirrorless for about a week and found that I couldn't use it. If your vision is that of an older person requiring near vision correction (around age 40 and up), you MAY find that the EVF is nearly impossible to use and for some, even the LCD can be problematic. Plus, I'm old school enough that your face is part of the grip of the camera to remove as much shake as possible. Which is why I only use live view on my Canon 5D Mark III for limited purposes. If I still had young eyes, I'd switch to a smaller lighter camera in a heartbeat. For what it's worth.
Is it just me, or do DSLR's just feel better in the hand? I've used Mirrorless Cameras before, but something just feels off about them. With Dslr's you can feel the weight of the camera in your hand, and you can feel the shutter capture that image and its soooo satisfying. I don't know, is it just me? Awesome Video btw!! You did an outstanding job explaining both cameras, Awesome Awesome job!!!
That's my biggest problem. I have large hands, after a while mirrorless camera's have my hands hurting. The new Canon was not bad, but no where near comfortable as a regular dslr.
Thank you for this video. My son is an aspiring filmmaker in HS presently and I needed to buy him a camera. The decision on choosing Mirrorless vs DSLR is complicated. I found the staff at Best Buy not at all helpful so I’ve been watching comparison videos and I came across this video. It’s been very insightful. I’ve learned at lot.
Mirrorless is probably much better for making movies. Some mirrored DSLR's make movies, but to do so locks up the mirror at which point it is effectively mirrorless.
Ultimately, the very best camera anyone has is the one they have with them when they need it. Personally, I like my viewfinder too much to change away from my DSLR or FSLR etc. Bright conditions are tricky with mirrorless, where a viewfinder comes up trumps. Oh, jolly good video, thanks.
That's the greatest advantage for me as well. I have a Sony RX100 for 2 years now and I highly recommend it for trips. It has great image quality and it's really portable.
Great explanation. It's been years since I have caught up on the new tech. Your format made this a quick study and refresher. I appreciate it. Thank you.
Why even beginning with FILM?! Must be super expensive to develop etc, no editing possible at all except the traditional, "complex" methods... i began more serious photography in about 2009 as the EOS 400D was released, with a digital camera i have at least "free" film and shootout doesnt matter, only restricted by the memory card size which was even in the early DSLR days A LOT BIGGER than any stills film camera. Even from a creative standpoint i see an EVF a lot better than an OVF... focus peaking for manual focus, too awesome and needed! exposure simulation... what you see is what the the image will look like pretty much! On OVF/DSLR you have to trust the internal exposure simulation and check images. customizable screen/infos like buffer bar for bursts etc. no blackout while shooting low light... you just see modern mirrorless cameras outperform also the average DSLR in autofocus performance. I could use my EOS RP with a 1.4 lens as a "light amplifier" especially on the OLED EVF, not so much on the horrendous backlight bleeding LCD. On a OVF you see NOTHING.
@@harrison00xXx it was a school photography course with full access to a darkroom. It was a great way to learn a new method of making art, and not being narrow minded. As someone who works in an office, it feels like I live my life staring into a computer screen. You can stick yet another screen an inch from your eyeball, but I’ll pass.
@@harrison00xXx Film might be the best way to learn photography. It forces you to stop and think about your shot. You need to learn how to know what it's going to look like before you take the photo. It makes you work harder to avoid wasting film, and it prevents you from just taking a thousand shots until you get a good one by happenstance. If you roll your own, you can get some decent film (kentmere) for $4/roll, and chemicals are cheap. It's easy to rapid fire shoot digital and get good shots while learning nothing. As for viewfinders, they're both cool, but EVFs are a pain when you're shooting with a flash because its black at those settings. There's probably a way to get around this, but I prefer it when the viewfinder just works and the back display shows all the electronic stuff.
@@derp195 The obvious counterpoint to that is, if it takes a thousand shorts to find _that_ good photo, you are a heck of a lot more likely to get it with digital. Being conservative with the shots because of the cost, time and effort also means you're more likely to miss that shot. I agree, you'll value a photo taken with a film camera more, because of that long process, but I am not sure it makes you better in any way. The best athletes in the world don't limit their training as much as possible to become better. They grind and grind until it's all second nature. The electronic viewfinder gives you the view of what your camera sees, while a mirror view finder only shows you what your eyes can see. SLR and DSLR are cool in their way, but they are falling short on all points with cameras using the same lens and sensor makes.
@@TheRealDuckofDeath That's why I shoot digital when I'm doing a job, but I still think film is better to *learn*. If you shoot digital, you can take as many photos as you want. That means you aren't thinking about what you need to do to get a good photo as much as you are rapid fire shooting because you know you'll get some stuff you can work with. To be a good photographer, you can't rely on getting lucky, you need to know exactly how to get the shot when it presents itself. You need to know how the photo will turn out before you press the shutter, and that doesn't come from taking as many photos as possible, it comes from being forced to think about each shot. I don't think the sports analogy is very appropriate. Maybe something more like shooting a target with a bolt action rifle vs machine gun. They both end up hitting the target, but the person who learned with the rifle will be more accurate, because they were forced to be.
Whether mirrorless or with mirrors, a good camera depends entirely on its sensors and lenses. Next, it also depends on your setting, framing and composition. All a photographer needs to archived is to master the tool at hand. How the tool works in certain circumstances or situations. A simple tool in the hands of a master becomes a powerful weapon. You must be versatile on how your camera works. You do not. need an expensive camera. That’s is my experience. Until today, I am not attracted mirrorless camera. Sorry, to disagree with you. Tq.
no matter how good the lens and sensor are, it needs to have good electronics to maximize the camera use. I am still waiting for good in-camera HDR like I have wirh mt Samsung cellphone
Most mirrorless cameras don't have the top deck LCD screen, that most DSLRs have on top. That thing is so badly needed. With that small LCD, the rear one can be completly closed, all settings are on the top one.
What I would like to have on a professional camera, Is an operating system like iOS or Android which allows me to install apps (and a corresponding SOC like the A13 or better) that offer functionality where Canon, Nikon, Sony don't. I'm thinking about automatic removing the background in product photos, autostacking of macro or low light shots, programmability of shooting for e.g. timelaps, or automatic capture of motion and shutter release, stitching of photos (stitching, panoramas), and much more that makes computational photography possible. Sure, this is also possible in post production, but that costs time, and time is money. They are professional cameras, designed for people who make their money with them. Product photos with automatic removing the background in product photos in fractions of a second, and sent directly to the folder on a computer via WLAN saves a lot of Photoshop hours or outsourcing the work to Poland or India. The Canon, Nikon, Sony of this world are like the car industry that listens too much to Jeremy Clarksons. When a manufacturer puts a smart FF camera on the market that gives me the freedom to install Android or iOS apps on it, I sell all my Canon stuff. Unless it's Canon. Pentax has a very good FF on the market, and one of the best medium format cameras. Unfortunately Ricoh/Pentax is not doing well. If Samsung or Apple bought them, and they put a SOC in there, new operating system on it... Oh what possibilities there would be. With a good automatic removing the background in product photos alone, a professional camera would earn itself back within a few months.
It's a bit frustrating when people use battery life to justify why they're sticking with DSLR's. Terrible battery life is somewhat a thing of the past when looking at current models like the Sony a7III, a9, Nikon Z6/7, Canon EOS R (not the RP), etc. It's not fair to compare the first generation of the alpha 7 camera's to a 5DIII or D810. However, I will agree that a DSLR is probably a bit more robust although I've banged my mirrorless cameras around for years and have yet to have a single hardware issue. Plus the DSLR have more moving parts and is just more room for failure (when it's day comes).
@@dodzb7362 Battery life really isn't an issue, anymore. I can typically shoot an entire day on one battery (that's photography, of course. I can't comment on video use and battery life). Chimping? That's one of the best/useful features of a mirrorless camera, what you see, is what you get. It saves so much time. There's virtually no reason to chimp. Not trying to convert you to mirriorless, but you should at least give a modern day mirriorless a fair try, before you rule them out.
Not exactly. In-body stabilization is extremely complicated by the necessity to know exactly the focal length of your lens; such that it knows for a 1/10th of a degree rotation of the body how much to shift the sensor to compensate. Rather a lot of such shifting would seem to eventually fatigue the wires leading to the sensor. In-lens stabilization, on the other hand, moves only a lens element but the electromagnets are not themselves moving and consequently there is no wire fatigue and failure. On the other hand, every lens needs its own stabilizer, but can be made particular for that lens.
@JaBOBOMeMe "and they are all solved now." Well then why are we having this discussion? Perhaps my camera has absolutely no idea what lens I have just mounted, perhaps a 500 mm catadioptric mirror lens that does not have a "cpu chip" embedded. It is a lightweight lens and remarkably difficult to hold steady.
ha ha hardy ha ha... that would be why tonnes of Sony users adapt Canon glass to their Sonys then ? Metabones is making a good business selling these adapters. Canon users never use Sony glass, even though it could be adapted to M or R Canon. Sony doesn't even make eg, 85mm f1.2 portrait lens, or 600mm or 800mm glass for sports. Sony doesn't make a 11-24mm rectalinear lens that architecture and real estate togs love. Infact Sonys tiny 45mm mount doesn't even allow for a 11mm rectalinear, vs Canons 52mm wide EOS mount used for 30 years.
The reason why a lot of Sony users adapt their Canon glasses is because they have them! They are switching and had invested a ton of $$ on their old lens. Canon users don't use Sony glasses because there is no such adapter! Why on this planet will a Canon use Sony glass? People who has Sony glasses had switched to Sony already, they don't have a Canon camera!! Yes, Sony has few lens BUT the lens you refers to are for Canon DSLR, not their R mount. If you like to compare apple to apple, compare the number of Canon's r-mount lens to Sony e-mount lens. @@nordic5490
Pentax has had sensor shifting shake reduction for many years. Also weather-proofing in even their lower-end cameras, which the big two reserved for only the most expensive ones.
If I'm correct he didn't use any of the camera body examples to actually shoot, so maybe he doesn't even use them anymore and that's why he is so comfortable showing us how they work.
Camera batteries already have exceeded usual phones in battery capacity. Phone batteries are 3.7V while camera batteries are usually 7V or more. For example 4000mAh battery on phone is 14.8Wh and Sony's Z-series batteries are 16.4Wh (7.2V*2280mAh).
@@sempreoli Spare batteries give you effectively infinite battery capacity. Battery swaps take a couple of seconds or less. But when even that's not good enough, I use a double battery grip, which allows hotswapping batteries without ever powering the camera down (or simply enjoying double capacity, if that's enough for the day's requirements). Any reputable wedding photographer will be bringing multiple camera bodies as well, to avoid downtime for lens swaps.
heres the solution... USB-C port on camera for additional power source, then you can use mobile chargers, and you can hotswap batteries on emergency without having to power down.....
Incredibly informative video! Lots of great information and points here for the Newbie or the Vet Shooter. This is a must watch for someone on the fence between MILC and DSLR; the great dilemma.
Most mirrorless cameras don't have the top deck LCD screen, that most DSLRs have on top. That thing is so badly needed. With that small LCD, the rear one can be completly closed, all settings are on the top one.
@@sulev111 When you give your DSLR for sensor cleaning, there is a "mirror up" setting in the menu which is supposed to be activated. You are not supposed to touch the mirror.
I might buy a mirrorless for video. The video capabilities and eye AF tracking are astounding. I'm just surprised you didn't talk about the downsides of EVF's. Flicker, seeing nothing in the dark, annoying auto exposure and almost unusable in concerts and other types of flashing light events?
Most mirrorless cameras don't have the top deck LCD screen, that most DSLRs have on top. That thing is so badly needed. With that small LCD, the rear one can be completly closed, all settings are on the top one.
I see that you caught that aspect also. A videographer giving a presentation on "still" cameras. It is like with phones. no one points out that it is, or is not a great "communication" device; they point out how wonderful the camera works, and not it's ability to capture a signal when you might be in an emergency and need to call a doctor. In smart marketing their are no downsides. Just like with electric cars. No need to buy gas after spending $100,000 for the vehicle, and then only charge it to 80%,{ not to overstress the battery}to get your, hopefully, 200 miles of range, and then not dare plan a long distant vacation, until you have mapped out the exact location of each charging station, if they are working, and if they are compatible with the type of car that you have. Oh, another thing, folks in Ohio have to pay $250-300 per year in "fuel usage tax". Why? Because they are not paying the hidden gas tax that we pay when we fill up our tanks. And the tax credit that is given after one year, is disallowed after that first year.
This was an absolutely excellent video! Perfectly explains everything with really choice B-roll and everyday lingo. Seriously I wish more tech/product explanation videos were as good as this :)
It's been a few years since I researched this but I believe that 30 minute limit is to reduce the amount of tax you pay on device. If the 30 minute limit was removed your 80D would be classed as video camera and have a higher rate of tax charged on it, at least in the EU.
@@cLaw27 That is incorrect. Panasonic's cameras like the G85, G95, GH4, GH5, and GH5s have no 30 minute recording limit for video. Technically the only reason this exists is to make the camera cheaper in the EU, in my opinion all camera makers should ditch that and people in the EU can pay more for cameras until they fight to have those incredibly antiquated laws changed.
amazing. the writer truly knows something about these. I could not fault it. If I'd nitpick is on the topic of Image quality which should be the same except the tiny measurable more noise in mirrorless due to heat build up. You also forgot to add that Eye AF on the Sony is good value for mirrorless, which also works on pets. sounds all amazing but the elephant in the room is smartphones. saying this a camera enthusiast, smartphone cameras really have come close to APS-C system cameras with 4k video up to 60fps. I just wish that camera manufacturers should be using smartphone components/systems for their cameras, which Samsung and Zeiss did with the NX1 and the ZX1.
Smartphone cameras can't even compete with high end point and shoot cameras in terms of image quality. I don't know where you got this idea of them being close to APS-C cameras, but that's completely false. Also, why does "4k" even matter when your video is compressed all to hell in scenes with fast motion or when the whole thing is a soft mess in low light?
Just started shooting w a Sony A74 few weeks ago, from a dslr , 5D mark 4 , The advantage for me is the size , weight, but even more importantly, the EVF , wow !!! I really don’t miss the dslr , but it’s what makes you happy!!! DSLRs aren’t disappearing anytime soon
i want to switch to a z6 but the nikon only option for z-mount lenses is not something that is like. the prices for their z-mount lenses are crazy. as i use it only private and not professional, the good things from sigma and tamron are already expensive enough.
My biggest concern with mirrorless is the size. I wear a 2XL glove, most mirrorless are half the size of a DSLR. Canon's R series seems to have kept a similar size to the DSLR.
I bought my first professional camera now that I have a career and can afford it. I ended up buying a Canon M50 Mark 2. It's a mirrorless camera and way better than my old Nikon L110. Just starting to learn about all the different features on it and how to use it. It's so much but very fun for a guy who likes telescopes like myself.
@Jeremy Kirkpatrick Me too. I just don't want to have to go through the hassle of trying to hunt down and fish out a hair or particle of dust or dirt. I take special care whenever I have to change lenses. I turn my back to the wind invert my camera an wrap my jacket around the entire apparatus. I'm accident prone and that one in a million gust of wind carrying all the road debris will happen just as I unscrew my lens. A real crimp in my style.
these are neither photographers nor experts on electronics or dslr's as the title should have told you. theyre liberal arts major losers relying on clickbait
well, my "newest" camera is a WW2 Graflex Speed Graphic, shooting 4x5' sheet film, one at a time. Average time to get one picture, 4 minutes. And I love it!!!
Speaking as a long time pro photographer (not a videographer) and as a Nikon user since the 80's (although I have owned and used Sony's A7 series) I still prefer the usability of the DSLR. I like a heavier camera that sits well in my hands. The smaller form factor, for me is fiddly and I find finding the buttons difficult, physically having to look to find them rather than knowing where they are. This can lead to missed shots. I dont like viewing image on the back to focus but prefer the viewfinder with the benefit of increased camera stability. My D4/4's never miss a shot. If I was shooting video it would be a different story.. Especially if on a gimble etc Weight counts but luckily I rarely shoot video which I hate shooting.
Sony (2015): Sony will concentrate on full-frame cameras in the future to beat Canon and Nikon. Fujifilm: Our (APSC) Cameras will beat Canon and Nikon by 2019 Olympus & Panasonic: We will use MFT cameras to beat Canon and Nikon Pentax: We will be the only one selling DSLRs when Canon and Nikon are dead. Come 2022 Canon has dethroned Sony in "mirrorless" camera market share. Nikon Z9 is most popular FF camera and the Canon R7 is the most popular APSC camera in 2022.
Simply a matter of opinion.The best reviews are from those that are newbies, while those the are experienced have opinions and respond. its natural and inevitable and should be expected. It is not personal but an attempt to be objective! (BTW, "I" did not dislike it. It's a good vid but its a bit too narrow scoped.)
nah, i still prefer DSLR over Mirrorless a million times. Mirrorless is great partially for the social-media people who need a light version and look through the screen versus the viewfinder anyway, or love that they get exposure assistance or features like eye-tracking. For me, all of this is pretty unimportant and i prefer a clean look through the lense
The 'clean look' through OVF only matters if you're using your lens as a telescope. All the negatives you list of mirrorless are an advantage to any working or amateur photographer
For future photographers, it's not the camera taking the picture it is you. The body should not be your biggest concern. That being said glass should be taken into consideration.
The best thing about mirrorless is the ability to use vintage glass. DSLRs poised challenges due to the long flange focal distance which makes it impossible to adapt all sorts of legacy lenses. Taking glass into consideration, the shorter flange focal distance of mirrorless allows the use of a optical-less adapter tube to adapt vintage lenses once used on film SLRs. These old but good lenses would otherwise be thrown away, rotten or forgotten can be useful again in a second life on mirrorless bodies.
I've switched over to the DSLR's. When your talking about capturing the image itself (which is all we really care about), it has all the advantages. And also, people like the shutter and the bulkiness.
"Nikon's first mirrorless camera Z6 and Z7"? The Nikon 1 series mirrorless cameras came out in 2011. On the same day this video came out Engadget also posted an article on the history of mirrorless cameras documenting this.
So many incorrect statements. Of course DSLRs can "see" what they are focusing on via their metering chips. This is how the best PDAF systems can track objects in 3D space. The small black-out caused by a mirror is often replaced by a much larger delay/freeze in an EVF. One is typically behind the action with an EVF quite a bit. Even the 120Hz Panasonic EVFs start smearing when you pan with them. Not nice at all. DFD is not "blazingly fast". It is still prone to the backwards/forwards honing in on focus of CDAF. It works much better most of the time, but if you used DFD, you will have noticed the typical pumping of focus. Videographers don't use manual focus because CDAF is slow or not smooth., they use it because even the best video AF systems are not fully reliable. Even if they track well, they'll sometimes attempt microadjustments leading to pumping bokeh in the background. In particular Panasonic's DFD is not acceptable in the regard. DSLRs still sell in much higher numbers than MILCs and there will always be a market for DSLRs. This nonsense of mirrorless being newer and therefore better for everyone is really tiring. Pentax had in-body stabilisation for years and years in their DSLRs. A shorter flange distance is not only advantageous, it also has drawbacks. For instance, the wide angle lenses you are talking about would require sensors that can accept light from an extremely wide range of angles. Current sensors are still not very good at that. Have a look at the purple discoloration that classic short flange distance wide angle lenses caused on Sony bodies. In practice, even MILC wide angle lenses will attempt to achieve some level of telecentricity to avoid these problems.
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I actually ditched the autofocus on my new a6400 and a6300. Not because they suck, they are fantastic but they give me no tangible control on the focus, it's a real pain in the ass to focus then refocus, talking about smoothness and transitional speed. So even if any marvelous AF systems come out, I'd still stick to my finger pulling the focus, it's more reliable that way. BTW, I shot all of my content with manual focus, funny skit or professional work, always manual focus. I don't hate AF but unless I'm shooting sport or dance video, I'll try to keep my hand busy, it's a good habit for any photographers.
I recently purchased a Nikon 1 N1, a Canon FD lens, and an adapter (about $85 total) and have been taking really sweet photos, since. I realize that it's been all manual focus, but I really prefer manual over auto. Before this odd coupling, I always assumed that Nikon bodies should be with F lenses, Canon with FD or FL lenses, etc. The results of having what is considered one of the better lenses for the time, the Canon FL/FD with a really decent sensor receptor has been a franken-marriage made in heaven. It also makes me wish the camera companies would get over their egos and agree upon one mount. This is another case of I wish RUclips would allow posting jpgs as an option. I would love to see other persons work and to be able to show my own, at times.
Please take the Sonya9 into Account. It's incredible Speed kills all the DSLRS. Also keep in mind, that Sonys current Series of Mirrorless (like a9, a7riii, a7iii) have a very good Battery life. One day, i took 2400 Images on the a9 with one Battery.
I'm quite sure this video was not meant to be brand specific, rather a very informative piece about the two different tech types. I'm glad he didn't go all into a specific brand like all these other brand sponsored youtubers. No need to be a brand boy when all you're talking about is tech!
I predict mirrorless will replace single mirror like digital cameras replaced mechanical cameras, when mirrorless are straight up better than single mirror, everyone will use 'em.
Many pros have been switching to mirrorless, and many went for Micro 4/3 for its light weight to ease the burden of all day carry of a professional kit. Autofocus is now better with mirrorless cameras than with DLSRs at the same price level, despite of what too many reviewers keep stating, who obviously don't actually cameras in real situations! In many cases, mirrorless actually beats far more expensive DSLRs in focus speed, and matches their image quality. The last time I compared my aging Olympus PEN cams (the E-PL8 was released 5 years ago) to some more expensive Canon and Nikon DSLRs, the clunky DLSRs lost badly, with slow or even very erratic focusing on some objects in well lit stores! Mirrorless may not have replaced DSLRs everywhere yet, but in Japan and some other markets that are at the cutting edge, they have indeed done so, and the future is clear. That is why Canon and Nikon are now finally jumping on mirrorless, because they both lost a LOT of the market share!
With the premium lenses the advantage in size and weight of mirrorless cameras is lost. The SLR technology began to be very popular with the Nikon F in 1959 and in 80's the autofocus era of SLR begun with the Minolta. With the passage to digital era during early 2000 cameras could autofocus without the electrooptical system of SLRs and didn't need a mechanical shutter too. However professional and enthusiasts photographers didn't want to loose their investment on expensive lenses designed for SLR cameras and camera manufacturers satisfied them with converted film SLR cameras to digital SLR cameras. The rest of amateur photographers were fine with digital compact cameras without mechanical shutters, mirrors or pentaprisms until the advent of smartphone cameras. With mirrorless cameras manufacturers produces something simpler smaller, lighter, sometimes cheaper than SLR cameras with the extra profits of interchangeable lenses. Is very important for manufacturers to learn the amateurs the importance of lenses and especially prime ones. Smartphones lately can offer shallow depth of field with the use of two cameras, or telephoto lenses with the use of periscope design, or optical zoom with the use of multiple cameras, or very wide cameras or low high ISO noise with digital stacking etc. The virtues of dSLRs and mirrorless cameras are continuously and gradually replaced by smartphones. What it won't lost in the future are the virtues of lenses and especially prime lenses. Smartphones have achieved many things in photography but their cameras lack sharpness and digital sharpness is very inferior. Chromatic aberrations, geometric distortions, vignetting, noise can be correct digitally but sharpness is nearly impossible. A soft photo can't be made sharp.
The Minolta DiMage 7 was only 5 mp was mirrorless also had in body stabilization and auto focus but not interchangeable lenses. Pentax K10D was the one I chose to replace the Minolta as at time I wasn't into video. Now as I'm wanting to just play with video I'm looking at the Minolta MN67Z 20mp and 1080p. They aren't challenging any of the bigger names but they keep adding higher end features like the large screen on the back that swings out and can rotate so a vlogger can make sure they are in focus an the lighting is good. And while its not cheap the msrp is $499.
Lowell Martin What is mirrorless isn't really something very specific. In theory every digital camera without the mirror mechanism of dSLR cameras is mirrorless. What is considered mirrorless by most photographers is digital cameras without the SLR mirror mechanism that can permit interchangeable lenses and autofocus. So the first mirrorless cameras with these specifications were made by Olympus / Panasonic with micro 4/3 sensors in 2008. In 2010 Samsung and Sony followed with APS-C mirrorless cameras and in 2013 the first full frame camera were created by Sony.
@@AgnostosGnostos I wasn't trying to champion mirrorless cameras I was just pointing out that Minolta has been doing this on the prosumer level for close to 20 years before anyone thought of coining the term mirrorless. That term has not a damn thing to do with interchangeable lenses. It is doing away with the mirror and taking what the sensor sees and sends it to an Electronic View Finder instead of the prism and ground glass that was originally used for decades. I'm just peeved at Minolta for starting out so strong but has opted to cater to the consumer and low end amateur who either can't afford to buy more camera or doesn't want to spend money on something they won't take any farther.
The best part about mirrorless is that now used DSLRs and old lenses are getting cheap enough for me to afford, lol.
you are right Kevin lol go for mirrorless so we can enjoy buying good lenses for our DSLR camera
*Laughs in canon L lens
Thank goodness, ahh could never afford those ridiculous $1000 lens the costs barrier to the hobby
@@UsapangDiskarteOnline hahah that's what i thought, I'm going to mirrorles yo enjoy DSLR wtf!
Same idea, now I can buy pro cameras at a cheaper price,,,, hahaha
This has cleared up my thinking on the matter of DSLR vs Mirrorless and clarified my purchasing decision. I'm simply going to have to get one of each.
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LOL, this is so me
lol
Most mirrorless cameras don't have the top deck LCD screen, that most DSLRs have on top. That thing is so badly needed. With that small LCD, the rear one can be completly closed, all settings are on the top one.
That also means getting lenses for each!
It’s 2am acting like I’m gonna be a dam photographer, I can barely work my Cellphone camera
same
I just finished watching this and it's 3am lol
To be honest, cellphone cameras are much more difficult to operate.
Also I can’t even afford the camera
@@gamechannel1271 This is what I'm hoping as a videographer/photographer wannabe
i love the sound of mirror flapping
Me too!
😂😂, World going update, and u backdated!!
I love the sound of the Mamiya RB-67 vintage film camera (Big mirror)
yomero0666 check the pentax 67
You do still get that sound with Mirrorless as the sensor gets covered just before exposing for the photo!
I went into this video not knowing if I'd rather have a DSLR or Mirrorless camera.
After watching this video and waffling back & forth 17 times I'm, w/o a doubt, 100% sure I'm going to buy the...umm,
well, either a DSLR or a Mirrorless camera!
Good, informative video nevertheless!
If you're looking for a camera for commercial use I'd suggest one of the Sony mirrorless cameras, but they're not cheap and neither are the lenses. So if you don't plan on using the camera a lot, I'd stick with a DSLR. If you want to learn more about mirrorless, search Jason Lanier on youtube, he has great reviews on all the sony mirrorless cameras.
If you want the best existing camera at the moment, then buy the Nikon d850.
If you're looking for your first camera, I'd go with an affordable mirrorless. Affordable because you'll want to upgrade in no time if you like photography, and quit if you don't. Mirrorless because that's the future. And I'm saying that as an owner of two Nikon DSLRs and nine lenses for that system. I love my gear and it gets the job done, but I feel like for a beginner in 2019, there's no reason to get used to DSLRs in a time when every company is going mirrorless.
If I were you, I'd look at the Fuji X-T3, Sony a6400 or Sony a7 III, depending on budget and personal preference. Not specs, not reviews - picking them up and seeing which feels best.
@@youknowwho9247 I am afraid that a high quality affordable mirrorless does not exist as their price tag is equal to top range DSLRs. DSLRs come in much larger variety of prices.
@@paulbreedveld4921 If you're just starting photography, then getting any top end gear is a waste of money. You don't know what preferences you'll develop. I'd recommend buying a used, affordable kit and playing with that for a while. When you've developed a shooting style and discovered your likes and dislikes, then upgrade to something top notch. The number one thing you see with photography beginners is buying expensive gear that doesn't suit their needs or gathers dust on a shelf. If I were you, I'd get myself a used X-T3/X-T30 or a used a6400 after testing them in the shop and see what happens. You can always re-sell them after a few months and get that juicy full frame when you actually know what you want and need from a camera.
Finally, a good explanation of dslr and mirrorless. Instead of just "mirrorless is smaller bcs it has no mirror inside, the end."
oh dear god. DSLR's have interchangeable lenses. Mirrorless is just a choice of a moving shutter or one that tries to be invisible...
@hanselxy So that the picture you see doesn't change between pressing the shutter and actually taking a picture.
Good content...but totally biased for Sony / Canon possibly. Olympus mastered mirrorless, and IBIS 5 first...but you didn't say anything about them...again you brought other brands them.
Santa PM i mean, people mostly buy canon and nikon so
Lol
This was an amazing video. Went into this thinking I was not going to learn anything new but I was wrong. Give this man a raise for God's sake.
Exactly this!
No one has ever proven that a god exists....
@@iwaswithyourmom9410 and I am Santa Claus
@@HS-fk6hb and I am Satan
@@iwaswithyourmom9410 there r billions way to prove that god exist.. but the catch is u will need high iq
Mirrorless have come along way in the last 3 years since you made this video. I got the Canon R7 and it is better than my Canon 90D. The start up is just as fast and it has very good auto focus just like the 90D. This video was very informative and helpful.
I have the Canon m200
I'm about to purchase another cannon is been a while for... I'm considering a 90D and a EOS R.... as a hybrid camera...which would you recommend and have you used the new R lens or using an adapter....for dslr lens
@jlang1959 HI, I own both the 90D and the R7. The R7 is the better camera. I did buy it with the 18-150mm RF kit lens. But I also bought the adapter to use all my older EF lenses as well. But I find myself rarely using and other lens than the kit lens. I mostly do some general photography and shoot video of special events at my church. I usually throw my 90D on the tripod using the 18-135mm lens for filming. Then I use my lighter to hold R7 to take stills and also zoom in for some closeups to film. I also us a Rodes microphone on the 90D to capture sound.
@SchardtCinematic I appreciate the response... but question was about the EOS R and 90D... I can't really validate paying for an R5, R6 or R7 for my use, the question I guess is should I just be going mirroless at the point? The 90D and EOS R are at simular price points and like the middle of the field
@jlang1959 Mirrorless is definitely the way to go. What is your price range?
I'm on B&H website now. I figured the EOS R was discontinued by now. But I guess not. So that's good.
It lists for $1,104.95 currently brand new. What kind of photography are you into?
Finally we can take photos of vampires
LOL
@Raphael Cabrera >>> It will not be so much of a _pain in the neck_ anymore...😊
U could before, it was just more of a guess and check process 😜 or eyeball and shoot from the hip
dslr has live view too ,, where the mirror isnt used so you can see vampires :P
@@TheKlingis but not focuse as fast.. Idk they blur the accent already
Best camera systems comparison I have ever seen. Complex, to the point and without strong biases. Loved the new technologies presentation as it developed over time.
@Sandy Lee Well... I have the best cameras, better than DSLR or mirror-less. *My* *Eyes* *!*
@Sandy Lee do you have some brain damage?
No mention of the viewfinder though.
Without strong biases? Completely ignores non-135-format mirrorless...
@Sandy Lee I'm 53, non-snowflake, non NPC, non everything you just hurled and my astro-photos are the absolute best on my Canon DSLR's. Nothing else even comes close.... except my dedicated astro cameras. Way more technical than most even comprehend. Ease up on connecting snowflakes with DSLR's because the opposite is true. The anti-capitalist camera purchaser supports capitalism by purchasing Sony mirrorless. Kind of a known thing these days. That is after they Sell (once again, supports capitalism) their non-RAW Nikons. Good day.
I'm old school from film to today's digital dslr and looking through a viewfinder rocks. No touch screen,just the buttons and dials. I love the ergonomics of a dslr. I for one will never switch.
If people just stop buying these things, the price would easity drop to 2-3k or even less.
Most mirrorless cameras don't have the top deck LCD screen, that most DSLRs have on top. That thing is so badly needed. With that small LCD, the rear one can be completly closed, all settings are on the top one.
Until you test it
2 years later are you still using DSLR? Curious
Keep in mind you are getting lens cropping with DSLRs, something both film and mirrorless cameras do not face. With mirrorless 50mm is 50mm, same as film.
Took me ages to switch and when I did I was like wtf did I wait so long for?! Felt like having an old film camera again true satisfaction and the quality is fantastic. Love using mirrorless for video too. And everything so compact. Brilliant.
17 mins, I'm not watching all of this.....
17 mins later....*reads comment*
It could have been said in less than 5 but Sony needed a lot of attention.
@@Pozi_Drive It can be done shorter than that. Its electronics and all electronics get smaller.
16* Seconds
This video made me confused lol
HAHAHAHAH THIS IS ME NOW LOL
If youre a new photographer, getting a budget mirrorless camera is a good idea. It's much easier learning on a mirrorless. But even in 2021, while mirorless are rapidly catching up. DSLR's still have that edge and which system you pick really depends on your use.
Narrator: "They did not _have that edge_ in 2021, much less in 2023, the D850 came out in 2017, it's over, I'm sorry"
Very unsure about this ‘edge’ that you’re talking about. I haven’t seen a DSLR in person used professionally in two years now.
@@TheMrprosyndicateI use them professionally all the time. Mirrorless cameras are an overhyped marketing programme designed to make you spend your hard earned money on something tha is not effectively better, no cheaper, not effectively faster, no more comfortable and uses a digital view finder. A mirror is an accurate reflection of what you see, a digital viewfinder is a pixelated interpretation of what you see. It simply can’t be better than actual light. I hope Nikon and Canon keep making DSLR’s
@@TheMrprosyndicate So what? Agencies and art directors follow trends and what 61 megapixels blah blah blah. Pros have to follow the upgrade nightmare to keep in the game. We are obsessed with ultra high definition etc despite it looking artificial and fake. it's not unusual to hear a professional photographer saying they use one Camera for their work but something entirely different when they want to go out and have fun and enjoy their art.
My D7200 had 2 bars on its battery, I had no spare atm, and my wife wanted to go to the beach. I snapped 200-250 shots... still had 2 bars of battery. That alone make mirrorless a hard sell for me.
is it that hard to keep spare batteries charged or have the ability to charge batteries while driving? Your argument could be used by people who shoot using film and manual cameras: why buy a camera that require batteries?
@@EdwinChenLoo Life sometimes gives you lemons. I have 2 batteries, and 1 just died... firmware death (cause that's a thing lol). I'm not an actively working photog and most of my photography is my own personal stuff. If I'm going to a paid gig, OK, bring the kitchen cabinet while you're at it. But my point is that my D7200 isn't tied to a bag of batteries or a wall outlet just to whip out and go taking pictures. I've shot all day at an air show, on high speed continuous, and filled my 64GB cards on a single battery. I can literally just grab my camera with a versatile lens and run around shooting all day worry free with no bag. A film camera can't go bagless all day long on 36 shot rolls. My DSLR requires no bags of film or batteries. It just waits for me to press the button and does it's job with capacity for 1500-2000 shots.
@@EdwinChenLoo Batteries do suck though and the less the better
Let's not forget that even manual film cameras have required batteries for a very long time. I mean, they were tiny watch cell type batteries, but even the Pentax ME Super that was my first "real" camera required a battery (or several when I attached the auto-winder)
Yeah for real, my DSLR can hold a charge for like 1 week straight on vacation its awesome. I always take a spare battery but rarely change it. I have a nikon d5500. With 35mm f1.8 nikkor and a 11-16 wide angle f2.8.
I'm planning on getting a full frame soon.
M. irrorless
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F. Ocus
underrated comment, lol
@@thomasfeldman3613 iinterchangeable
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Pervs rule the world rn
OMG.
I love DSLR for the heavy body (= less or slower shakes and good grip) and the real shutter and mirror sounds, but mirrorless allowing us to use a whole variety of lenses is what wins me over.
Other than that, it really depends on the kind of project and what's best for it
Mirrorless also have real, mechanical shutters. It just doesn't have a mirror. Silent shooting (electronic shutter) is an option on both DSLR and mirrorless. So not sure what your point even is here.
@@AQHackAQ i didn't have enough information on mirrorless mechanics 😂
point is, its easy to adapt more lenses without worrying about hitting the mirror
I love the clunk of dslr cameras but all I have is mirrorless. Maybe I can go full dslr crazy and get a Pentax or something wacky in the future. But for now mirrorless gets the job done.
@@13_cmi all the artist's choice. DSLRs have a better shutter sound. I got BMP6k Pro but lack of shutter sound depresses me, like in some situations, it's a blessing for silence and in others, it feels lonely 😂😂😂😂 But, the solution is, to have a mirrorless, dslr and... drumroll... slr, for that saxy shutter sound and all the mechanics. So, it's just a choice and based on what your project demands. Enjoy all. Paint on canvas, glass, photoshop, vr, hologram or let AI do it. 🤘🏽
Composition in a TLR camera like the Rollei was never an issue because of the parallax correction built into the viewing lens mechanism. I used one for nearly 20 years - one of the best film cameras ever.
Proof that it's not always the "latest" and "trendiest" cameras that make the difference. There's also something called "knowledge" of optics, timings, light and reflection which play a major role in taking great pictures.
Your definitions and explanations are crystal and intense and vivid than any other I've ever heard. Thanks for the tips, it's made me wiser.
@Strawberry Kiys it might seem so, but he still defined the terms quite well, he deserves some credit for that.
Canon's dual pixel Auto Focus system tracks subjects by detecting light and colour. It applies the rules of composition quite well and it does so by tracking subjects in the depth of field given by the lenses, but the Phase Detect system by sony is somewhat different as the sensors intelligently tracks faces when the subject is placed at a distance and eyes when the subject is much closer. I'm a canon shooter, I use the canon 6dii 80d, 800d and the 750d and I'm quite conversant with the dual pixel autofocus system as it's made my work easier, though I havent used sony cameras so much, I know phase detect is much better with subject tracking after using the sony a7r ii once side by side with the canon 6dii.
While most of the comments over here show a clear confirmation bias, one has to agree that mirror less is the future and there's no other way about it. It's like saying that I prefer the slow and cumbersome speeds of 3G internet more than the snapiness of 4G (now 5G).
That being said, mirror less are nascent and in their initial stages, being just a little over a decade older, hence the higher cost to adapt to the ecosystem. As the market evolves and newer iterations are released, things are going to smooth out.
Eventually, it all boils down to the famous statement which says that the best camera for you is the camera that you can afford.
The Canon AE-1 was my first "professional" camera. I still have it 18 years later.
If you still have lenses for it why not go for a real professional F-1?
I had the AE-1 Program camera. It was awesome using it in the USAF
Still rocking with my D750 and I got no complaints
I said that about my D810, then I shot in my studio with an A7r111 and sold my Nikon gear and went full Sony. Now I really have no complaints :P
I still use a D50. Still works great for me!
Same here, have smaller cameras and the batteries just do not last, no good for any kind of remote location. D750 has been my favourite for a couple years now.
Wierckx apparently you have no clue what you’re talking about. The battery issue was solved in Sony cameras with the latest range and they outlast dslr batteries with ease. You’re just using the typical “I’m afraid of change so I’ll make up some reason not to” argument. You’re obviously talking from an ignorant standpoint and have never used something like and a7111 or a9, because if you had used one you’d know that they far out perform a d750. Nothing in the Nikon line up can compete with the a9 for auto focus, not even a d5. Maybe stop listening to fuckwits like the angry photographer and actually use the camera yourself before drawing an uninformed conclusion?
Just a Globe lol I hear that. I've been looking at the camera as well. But I can't justify spending money on new gear when I simply don't have the need for it just yet
I'll stick with my DSLR until the mirrorless prices come down to a comparable level. Then again, maybe not. I'm happy with my camera and lenses. They've done me well.
Same with me. I do believe mirrorless is a better tech, I used both systems and there are more advantages to the mirrorless technology. But not at this price. I will stick to a DSLR for a while before mirrorless lenses get a bit cheaper.
Andrzej Janiak some of the most affordable mid/high end cameras are Mirrorless and Samyang makes super affordable lenses. Fuji also has some more budget oriented glass that is great for what you pay
Sell your DSLR
LMM I think the bigger issue isn’t that a mirror less isn’t worth it, but that upgrading at all doesn’t make sense for many photographers
Whichever works. No one gonna look at your camera. Only your photos.
Use film if you must.
It's really nice having an explanation of highly technical details expressed in terms that the novice can immediately grasp.
Doesn't really matter. When you just need a car to drive around town, you don't need to know all of the inner technical details of the latest Tesla.
@@touristguy87 so making informed purchasing decisions when spending thousands of dollars is a bad idea?
@@Kelson01 ...so making informed decisions is a bad idea?
it's so funny when people think they are smart when they are actually being quite stupid. You want a camera to take pictures with. You probably already own a camera, if you own a cellphone. It costs you nothing. To buy anything else to take pictures with will cost you money. So why would you buy another camera when you already have one?
How much information do you need to know to make a good decision in this situation?
Most mirrorless cameras don't have the top deck LCD screen, that most DSLRs have on top. That thing is so badly needed. With that small LCD, the rear one can be completly closed, all settings are on the top one.
@@touristguy87 You must be a total gas at parties, what with your superiorist, dismissive attitude.
Tell us more about what a genius you are and what a bunch of bumpkins we are.
this is one of the most informative videos on the subject i've seen on youtube so far, thank you so much.
Yeah, most channels simply assume you know this information already.
Thanks for this video I learned a lot. Mirrorless cameras just jump out of nowhere and I just pretend to know what it is
It's funny, though I had a film SLR back as a teen, I really got into photography right when the first mirrorless cameras came out ... in 2009! I was going to buy a DSLR, but after seeing the Panasonic Lumix GF1, I decided that I had to have it. Been using mirrorless ever since. So, for me, it hasn't "come out of nowhere" at all, but rather has been a long, slow road to the cameras that we have now.
There were always advantages to mirrorless systems, but they were outweighed by the early technological deficiencies (e.g., really bad low-res, laggy EVFs.) In 10 years, though deficiencies have all by gone away, while the advantages have strengthened. With a few niche exceptions (e.g., top-end sports), they are at least a viable alternative, if not a clearly better choice.
I think they blew up so much because companies like Sony and Fuji shattered the market with those all of a sudden. They were just as good as the pro DSLR with a few drawbacks which are easy compromisable. They offered new technologies and advantages. They also offered the promise of being lighter and less noticable.
Technically the first ever phone with a camera was a mirrorless camera - but as said, most companies didn't want to adopt those for interchangeable lens systems. Look at Canon and Nikon who went along when Sony released their Sony Alpha 7RIII (generally speaking, their Alpha 7 (R/S) III line) and they have many of the drawbacks the first Sonys had (if I remember this correctly and got told so correctly by reviews).
It's awesome to see them on the rise and I wish that companies will focus more on them while not letting down DSLR.
And it is also very complicated being all the time on top of the technical side of photography, even I as a "gear-addict" (I love to see new gear and see reviews and read all the things about them and stuff ... The only way I can live it out since I got no money) have problems keeping up with all the news. Surely, I didn't learn anything new about mirrorless cameras from this video but I'll recommend it to all the people who wanna know and wanna know especially the differences of those. This video is pure gold! :D
Have a nice evening/day/morning, whenever you might read this! :D
less moving parts = camera will no doubt live longer too.
@@niclikescakes nope.
That's not a given. Just because a DSLR has more mechanical parts to potentially fail does not mean that they're short-lived or have a shorter lifetime than mirrorless.
Food for thought: all the technical parts which weren't a thing in DSLR can break/fail, too.
It's all about using it correctly. My EOS 600D/Rebel T3i has not once let me down (except, I didn't reload the batteries... Which is... Stupid, to be honest). It's still doing it's job after almost six years.
So, the thing is, we also have to assume how long cameras are being used by people. Camera bodys get changed more frequently than lenses... So, we should have to asked the average lifetime of a camera for one person (so, how long does one use it) vs the expected lifetime of a camera (how long is it useable after assembling it).
I assume most DSLRs are built with at least 5-10 years of functionality.
Next question needs to be: How expensive is it to replace the different parts that fail...
@@playeronthebeat I agree with you to an extent, but all mechanical systems have a potentially shorter lifespan, I'm not saying Dslrs aren't durable, but normal wear shock and other factors could have a bigger impact on the lifespan. phones are made like sandwiches because they have to withstand abuse, there are little to no moving parts, I don't see why a mirrorless camera wouldn't potentially be more durable/last longer thinking under this same idea.
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That is a beautiful way of doing a view finder tho...
Why is this video so much better than the dedicated photography channels.
Everything was cool until "less than 1000 dollars" ;]
used no less XD
😅😅😅
You can definitely find good deals I got my camera with a carrying case, extra battery and extra lens for 500
@@lordtickledck7012 Damn nice
Tzar Nicholas II of Russia i got a nikon d5300, 3 lens (ones $2700 when it came out), 2 high quality tripods, a lume cube, and a $100 camera bag (and other accessories) all for $600. a steal i say
IMHO, he explains better than Jared Polin, and rather unbiased.
Don't even own a camera, sat through the whole thing LMAO
me too
We can cheap in😂😂😂😂😹😹😂😂
bro same lmaoo
View with no money spend can make me relieve.
This video is literally made for people who don’t own a camera
One aspect I personally prefer in my SLR’s is the dust control the mirror provides. Changing lenses in a dusty environment is a great way to f up your sensor and ensuing images. I can rely on my SLR mirror to effectively control that problem. Cleaning my mirror is nowhere near as touchy a process as cleaning my sensor
Did NOT expect to learn anything new, but boy was I wrong. Thanks for the clarity in your explanations, on-point visuals, and for not dumbing it down.
Great info! My favorite feature of the mirrorless cameras is the EVF. Being able to see what your exposure will be will looking through the view finder is an extreme time saver! 😀
So you would rather watch TV than experience life directly?
@@douggoodhill then why are you watching a screen right now? or even taking pictures, look at stuff with your eyes! who needs a camera XD that it is a tool not like you still have eyes, right?
@@douggoodhill if you experience life through a optical viewfinder i think thats more your problem
@@douggoodhill There's a difference. An optical viewfinder can't show you much information when you look through it, since it's mostly fixed and just shows you the real word. With an EVF, you can add whatever you want; Zebras, Histograms, Focus peaking, battery indicators, settings indicators, balance level and so much more!
Furthermore, you can avoid getting blinded by the sun when you aim your camera upwards, and when you adjust exposure settings you can actually see what it's going to look like before you take your shot.
Most mirrorless cameras don't have the top deck LCD screen, that most DSLRs have on top. That thing is so badly needed. With that small LCD, the rear one can be completly closed, all settings are on the top one.
Been doing photography for 10 years, still prefer Nikon's DLSR for work use
But to be honest sony's mirrorless cameras are great. Alpha line cameras are great. While light with a series of lenses perfect for all situations, the results done by them are as great as all DSLRs
I was feeling sad about my dslr getting hate until u cheered me up
@@CheesePuff-r8c How is it even possible that you get hate from using DSLR??
Because it's too expensive?
Lots of useful info. I tried mirrorless for about a week and found that I couldn't use it. If your vision is that of an older person requiring near vision correction (around age 40 and up), you MAY find that the EVF is nearly impossible to use and for some, even the LCD can be problematic. Plus, I'm old school enough that your face is part of the grip of the camera to remove as much shake as possible. Which is why I only use live view on my Canon 5D Mark III for limited purposes. If I still had young eyes, I'd switch to a smaller lighter camera in a heartbeat. For what it's worth.
Interesting things to consider
Is it just me, or do DSLR's just feel better in the hand? I've used Mirrorless Cameras before, but something just feels off about them. With Dslr's you can feel the weight of the camera in your hand, and you can feel the shutter capture that image and its soooo satisfying. I don't know, is it just me? Awesome Video btw!! You did an outstanding job explaining both cameras, Awesome Awesome job!!!
Try holding the new Panasonic Lumix S1/S1R. Build quality is amazing. You will definitely change your mind after holding one.
Dslrs feel great, until you are hiking with them!
That's my biggest problem. I have large hands, after a while mirrorless camera's have my hands hurting. The new Canon was not bad, but no where near comfortable as a regular dslr.
no it's just you I feel the same about all my cameras
nope not happing
Thank you for this video. My son is an aspiring filmmaker in HS presently and I needed to buy him a camera. The decision on choosing Mirrorless vs DSLR is complicated. I found the staff at Best Buy not at all helpful so I’ve been watching comparison videos and I came across this video. It’s been very insightful. I’ve learned at lot.
Mirrorless is probably much better for making movies. Some mirrored DSLR's make movies, but to do so locks up the mirror at which point it is effectively mirrorless.
If you watched this video, you now know more than the entire staff at Best Buy.
I do wildlife photography and have literally one problem - BATTERY
just craft fusion cells bro
@@jedediahoakwynn-dough5769 ain't no nuclear powered camera
Jared Santiago
haha. what age do you guys live in? the 21st century?
hahaha.
@@jedediahoakwynn-dough5769 Sorry for not annexing canada
Use film then. Film cameras tend to be more rugged too. Good for shooting in the wild.
Ultimately, the very best camera anyone has is the one they have with them when they need it. Personally, I like my viewfinder too much to change away from my DSLR or FSLR etc. Bright conditions are tricky with mirrorless, where a viewfinder comes up trumps. Oh, jolly good video, thanks.
Just love how small and portable/light they are.
That's the greatest advantage for me as well. I have a Sony RX100 for 2 years now and I highly recommend it for trips. It has great image quality and it's really portable.
They often do have a technological advanatge too, with the latest and greatest features.
@Emily Bishop That's not all there is to it.
Great explanation. It's been years since I have caught up on the new tech. Your format made this a quick study and refresher. I appreciate it. Thank you.
Just brought my 90D, I'm happy with my DSLR.
How different is it compared to my D90 ? 🤭
@@elvisspada 90D is totally different from D90 and that's just obvious
Anshul Saini Are you sure? Maybe they just switched D and 90 in the model name!
@@elvisspada believe me, I'm pretty sure 😄
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I learned photography on a SLR with black and white film (in 2013 no less). I really value the optical viewfinder of a traditional DSLR.
Why even beginning with FILM?! Must be super expensive to develop etc, no editing possible at all except the traditional, "complex" methods... i began more serious photography in about 2009 as the EOS 400D was released, with a digital camera i have at least "free" film and shootout doesnt matter, only restricted by the memory card size which was even in the early DSLR days A LOT BIGGER than any stills film camera.
Even from a creative standpoint i see an EVF a lot better than an OVF...
focus peaking for manual focus, too awesome and needed!
exposure simulation... what you see is what the the image will look like pretty much! On OVF/DSLR you have to trust the internal exposure simulation and check images.
customizable screen/infos like buffer bar for bursts etc.
no blackout while shooting
low light... you just see modern mirrorless cameras outperform also the average DSLR in autofocus performance. I could use my EOS RP with a 1.4 lens as a "light amplifier" especially on the OLED EVF, not so much on the horrendous backlight bleeding LCD. On a OVF you see NOTHING.
@@harrison00xXx it was a school photography course with full access to a darkroom. It was a great way to learn a new method of making art, and not being narrow minded.
As someone who works in an office, it feels like I live my life staring into a computer screen. You can stick yet another screen an inch from your eyeball, but I’ll pass.
@@harrison00xXx Film might be the best way to learn photography. It forces you to stop and think about your shot. You need to learn how to know what it's going to look like before you take the photo. It makes you work harder to avoid wasting film, and it prevents you from just taking a thousand shots until you get a good one by happenstance.
If you roll your own, you can get some decent film (kentmere) for $4/roll, and chemicals are cheap.
It's easy to rapid fire shoot digital and get good shots while learning nothing.
As for viewfinders, they're both cool, but EVFs are a pain when you're shooting with a flash because its black at those settings. There's probably a way to get around this, but I prefer it when the viewfinder just works and the back display shows all the electronic stuff.
@@derp195 The obvious counterpoint to that is, if it takes a thousand shorts to find _that_ good photo, you are a heck of a lot more likely to get it with digital. Being conservative with the shots because of the cost, time and effort also means you're more likely to miss that shot. I agree, you'll value a photo taken with a film camera more, because of that long process, but I am not sure it makes you better in any way. The best athletes in the world don't limit their training as much as possible to become better. They grind and grind until it's all second nature.
The electronic viewfinder gives you the view of what your camera sees, while a mirror view finder only shows you what your eyes can see.
SLR and DSLR are cool in their way, but they are falling short on all points with cameras using the same lens and sensor makes.
@@TheRealDuckofDeath That's why I shoot digital when I'm doing a job, but I still think film is better to *learn*. If you shoot digital, you can take as many photos as you want. That means you aren't thinking about what you need to do to get a good photo as much as you are rapid fire shooting because you know you'll get some stuff you can work with.
To be a good photographer, you can't rely on getting lucky, you need to know exactly how to get the shot when it presents itself. You need to know how the photo will turn out before you press the shutter, and that doesn't come from taking as many photos as possible, it comes from being forced to think about each shot.
I don't think the sports analogy is very appropriate. Maybe something more like shooting a target with a bolt action rifle vs machine gun. They both end up hitting the target, but the person who learned with the rifle will be more accurate, because they were forced to be.
Whether mirrorless or with mirrors, a good camera depends entirely on its sensors and lenses. Next, it also depends on your setting, framing and composition. All a photographer needs to archived is to master the tool at hand. How the tool works in certain circumstances or situations. A simple tool in the hands of a master becomes a powerful weapon. You must be versatile on how your camera works. You do not. need an expensive camera. That’s is my experience. Until today, I am not attracted mirrorless camera. Sorry, to disagree with you. Tq.
no matter how good the lens and sensor are, it needs to have good electronics to maximize the camera use. I am still waiting for good in-camera HDR like I have wirh mt Samsung cellphone
My first camera is mirrorless, I saw the advantages of mirrorless compare to with mirror SLR. I can easily carry it during mountain climbing.
Most mirrorless cameras don't have the top deck LCD screen, that most DSLRs have on top. That thing is so badly needed. With that small LCD, the rear one can be completly closed, all settings are on the top one.
@@Subhasis44597 Why do you type this unrelated info to many comments?
The best video on DSLR vs. Mirrorless subject I have never seen.
What I would like to have on a professional camera, Is an operating system like iOS or Android which allows me to install apps (and a corresponding SOC like the A13 or better) that offer functionality where Canon, Nikon, Sony don't.
I'm thinking about automatic removing the background in product photos, autostacking of macro or low light shots, programmability of shooting for e.g. timelaps, or automatic capture of motion and shutter release, stitching of photos (stitching, panoramas), and much more that makes computational photography possible.
Sure, this is also possible in post production, but that costs time, and time is money. They are professional cameras, designed for people who make their money with them.
Product photos with automatic removing the background in product photos in fractions of a second, and sent directly to the folder on a computer via WLAN saves a lot of Photoshop hours or outsourcing the work to Poland or India.
The Canon, Nikon, Sony of this world are like the car industry that listens too much to Jeremy Clarksons.
When a manufacturer puts a smart FF camera on the market that gives me the freedom to install Android or iOS apps on it, I sell all my Canon stuff. Unless it's Canon.
Pentax has a very good FF on the market, and one of the best medium format cameras. Unfortunately Ricoh/Pentax is not doing well. If Samsung or Apple bought them, and they put a SOC in there, new operating system on it... Oh what possibilities there would be.
With a good automatic removing the background in product photos alone, a professional camera would earn itself back within a few months.
i still use SLR, because i can do heavy duty activity without wasting too much battery power on mirrorless.
It's a bit frustrating when people use battery life to justify why they're sticking with DSLR's. Terrible battery life is somewhat a thing of the past when looking at current models like the Sony a7III, a9, Nikon Z6/7, Canon EOS R (not the RP), etc. It's not fair to compare the first generation of the alpha 7 camera's to a 5DIII or D810. However, I will agree that a DSLR is probably a bit more robust although I've banged my mirrorless cameras around for years and have yet to have a single hardware issue. Plus the DSLR have more moving parts and is just more room for failure (when it's day comes).
@@dodzb7362 Battery life really isn't an issue, anymore. I can typically shoot an entire day on one battery (that's photography, of course. I can't comment on video use and battery life). Chimping? That's one of the best/useful features of a mirrorless camera, what you see, is what you get. It saves so much time. There's virtually no reason to chimp.
Not trying to convert you to mirriorless, but you should at least give a modern day mirriorless a fair try, before you rule them out.
My a7iii lasts a full shoot with easily over 1000 images taken. If it gets low I also have spare batteries and a battery backup
@@jasonwhetzelphotography i can shoot 2 or 3 days with one battery. That's what i meant.
@@vVvCuhRazy i can shoot 3000 with one battery.
gotta love those meers.
And I thought I was the only guy that heard meerless rather than mirr-or-less
Mirrorless camera enters..
*Vampires* have left the chat...
"Fast AF" made me laugh everytime I see it
Only just noticed that. 😅
Jennifer Maple cry about it you nerd
That’s the kind of speed I want!
"Im....Fast AF.....boiiii"
Pentax DSLRs have in-body stabilization for ages, and Canon has finally figured out that it's a neat thing :)
Thats why I shoot Pentax, that and they're cheaper
Not exactly. In-body stabilization is extremely complicated by the necessity to know exactly the focal length of your lens; such that it knows for a 1/10th of a degree rotation of the body how much to shift the sensor to compensate. Rather a lot of such shifting would seem to eventually fatigue the wires leading to the sensor. In-lens stabilization, on the other hand, moves only a lens element but the electromagnets are not themselves moving and consequently there is no wire fatigue and failure. On the other hand, every lens needs its own stabilizer, but can be made particular for that lens.
@JaBOBOMeMe "and they are all solved now." Well then why are we having this discussion? Perhaps my camera has absolutely no idea what lens I have just mounted, perhaps a 500 mm catadioptric mirror lens that does not have a "cpu chip" embedded. It is a lightweight lens and remarkably difficult to hold steady.
@everyday tenor how does that work for non-prime manual lenses? My Canon f4 80-200 may present a problem?
Great job explaining. I loved the quickness of your explanations also. Can't wait to hear more. Thank you. :)
I still believe Canon's dual auto focus is the best and fastest system out there as many comparisons proof!
What a great video! It makes me want to move up from my Samsung cell phone to a mirrorless camera with no SLR in between. That's salesmanship!
I fell in love with Sony E-mount system. Got a A6000 upgrading soon to A7rIII
How is it?? I'm about to go a6400 to a7r3
I've gone from a Canon to a Sony A7III and I love it.
rufdymond I use a Canon and love using the superior glass and focussing.
A7iii's focus definitely beats canon imo and on so many other levels as well.
Sony's glass is just as good to better
ha ha hardy ha ha... that would be why tonnes of Sony users adapt Canon glass to their Sonys then ? Metabones is making a good business selling these adapters. Canon users never use Sony glass, even though it could be adapted to M or R Canon. Sony doesn't even make eg, 85mm f1.2 portrait lens, or 600mm or 800mm glass for sports. Sony doesn't make a 11-24mm rectalinear lens that architecture and real estate togs love. Infact Sonys tiny 45mm mount doesn't even allow for a 11mm rectalinear, vs Canons 52mm wide EOS mount used for 30 years.
The reason why a lot of Sony users adapt their Canon glasses is because they have them! They are switching and had invested a ton of $$ on their old lens. Canon users don't use Sony glasses because there is no such adapter! Why on this planet will a Canon use Sony glass? People who has Sony glasses had switched to Sony already, they don't have a Canon camera!! Yes, Sony has few lens BUT the lens you refers to are for Canon DSLR, not their R mount. If you like to compare apple to apple, compare the number of Canon's r-mount lens to Sony e-mount lens. @@nordic5490
Pentax has had sensor shifting shake reduction for many years. Also weather-proofing in even their lower-end cameras, which the big two reserved for only the most expensive ones.
they should partner up with nikon's z-mount when they switch to mirrorless
@Jan Verhoeven Nope. Pentax has always had sensor stabilisation. There are no "shake reduction" Pentax lenses.
OMG fingers inside camera body contaminating everything.... 😱🙈
When I see inside a Mirrorles is like watching someones brain!!! The mirror protects the sensor of a DSLR
If I'm correct he didn't use any of the camera body examples to actually shoot, so maybe he doesn't even use them anymore and that's why he is so comfortable showing us how they work.
@@emilianoarenas7577 yup, that's what I thought. Or they are on their way to refurbishment anyway.
Finally learned how autofocus on dslrs work. Really informative video. thanks
I still don't get it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@kelajuan_ It works using a black box filled with FM...
4000mAh battery's capacity like from smartphone would be a game changer for mirrorless market
why? just simply have spare batteries quick & easy swap
Camera batteries already have exceeded usual phones in battery capacity. Phone batteries are 3.7V while camera batteries are usually 7V or more. For example 4000mAh battery on phone is 14.8Wh and Sony's Z-series batteries are 16.4Wh (7.2V*2280mAh).
@@sempreoli Am wedding photographer: spare batteries are a blessing my dude
@@sempreoli Spare batteries give you effectively infinite battery capacity. Battery swaps take a couple of seconds or less. But when even that's not good enough, I use a double battery grip, which allows hotswapping batteries without ever powering the camera down (or simply enjoying double capacity, if that's enough for the day's requirements). Any reputable wedding photographer will be bringing multiple camera bodies as well, to avoid downtime for lens swaps.
heres the solution... USB-C port on camera for additional power source, then you can use mobile chargers, and you can hotswap batteries on emergency without having to power down.....
I can’t wait until the day that I can just pick up any type of camera and use it without any question since I am blind.
Incredibly informative video! Lots of great information and points here for the Newbie or the Vet Shooter. This is a must watch for someone on the fence between MILC and DSLR; the great dilemma.
Most mirrorless cameras don't have the top deck LCD screen, that most DSLRs have on top. That thing is so badly needed. With that small LCD, the rear one can be completly closed, all settings are on the top one.
Touching the mirror hurt my soul. I use mirrorless anyways.
he didn't touch the mirror, but lifted it up. When you give your dslr to cleaning they'll do the same thing.
@@sulev111 When you give your DSLR for sensor cleaning, there is a "mirror up" setting in the menu which is supposed to be activated. You are not supposed to touch the mirror.
I wanna see how you clean the submirror like that.
Mirrors are for the bathroom ... LOL
Don't touch the mirror without the camera's consent, that's their sensitive spot.
I might buy a mirrorless for video. The video capabilities and eye AF tracking are astounding.
I'm just surprised you didn't talk about the downsides of EVF's.
Flicker, seeing nothing in the dark, annoying auto exposure and almost unusable in concerts and other types of flashing light events?
Most mirrorless cameras don't have the top deck LCD screen, that most DSLRs have on top. That thing is so badly needed. With that small LCD, the rear one can be completly closed, all settings are on the top one.
I see that you caught that aspect also. A videographer giving a presentation on "still" cameras. It is like with phones. no one points out that it is, or is not a great "communication" device; they point out how wonderful the camera works, and not it's ability to capture a signal when you might be in an emergency and need to call a doctor. In smart marketing their are no downsides. Just like with electric cars. No need to buy gas after spending $100,000 for the vehicle, and then only charge it to 80%,{ not to overstress the battery}to get your, hopefully, 200 miles of range, and then not dare plan a long distant vacation, until you have mapped out the exact location of each charging station, if they are working, and if they are compatible with the type of car that you have. Oh, another thing, folks in Ohio have to pay $250-300 per year in "fuel usage tax". Why? Because they are not paying the hidden gas tax that we pay when we fill up our tanks. And the tax credit that is given after one year, is disallowed after that first year.
This was an absolutely excellent video! Perfectly explains everything with really choice B-roll and everyday lingo. Seriously I wish more tech/product explanation videos were as good as this :)
I love my Canon 80D but what really pisses me off is the 30 minute recording limit. Great video I learned a lot, thanks!
Well every dslr/mirrorless have that limit as they identify as photo cameras, not video cameras
It's been a few years since I researched this but I believe that 30 minute limit is to reduce the amount of tax you pay on device. If the 30 minute limit was removed your 80D would be classed as video camera and have a higher rate of tax charged on it, at least in the EU.
Magic Lantern might be worth a look im not sure.
@@mikester1290 Magic Lantern doesn't have a port for the 80D. Would have been great though
@@cLaw27 That is incorrect. Panasonic's cameras like the G85, G95, GH4, GH5, and GH5s have no 30 minute recording limit for video. Technically the only reason this exists is to make the camera cheaper in the EU, in my opinion all camera makers should ditch that and people in the EU can pay more for cameras until they fight to have those incredibly antiquated laws changed.
amazing. the writer truly knows something about these. I could not fault it. If I'd nitpick is on the topic of Image quality which should be the same except the tiny measurable more noise in mirrorless due to heat build up. You also forgot to add that Eye AF on the Sony is good value for mirrorless, which also works on pets.
sounds all amazing but the elephant in the room is smartphones. saying this a camera enthusiast, smartphone cameras really have come close to APS-C system cameras with 4k video up to 60fps. I just wish that camera manufacturers should be using smartphone components/systems for their cameras, which Samsung and Zeiss did with the NX1 and the ZX1.
Smartphone cameras can't even compete with high end point and shoot cameras in terms of image quality. I don't know where you got this idea of them being close to APS-C cameras, but that's completely false. Also, why does "4k" even matter when your video is compressed all to hell in scenes with fast motion or when the whole thing is a soft mess in low light?
Why do I watch these videos late at night?
Just started shooting w a Sony A74 few weeks ago, from a dslr , 5D mark 4 ,
The advantage for me is the size , weight, but even more importantly, the EVF , wow !!!
I really don’t miss the dslr , but it’s what makes you happy!!!
DSLRs aren’t disappearing anytime soon
I am super super happy with my Nikon D850 and D810. I am not planning on changing until I wear them out.
Mirrorless cameras have advantages and disadvantages, I would not be so sure you are going to switch at all )
@@dvgsun Agreed .... I may never switch. I prefer cars with manual transmissions, too.
Nice I used one of these to make a dickpic
i want to switch to a z6 but the nikon only option for z-mount lenses is not something that is like. the prices for their z-mount lenses are crazy. as i use it only private and not professional, the good things from sigma and tamron are already expensive enough.
I LOVE my D850. Couldn’t imagine trading it for anything anytime soon.
My biggest concern with mirrorless is the size. I wear a 2XL glove, most mirrorless are half the size of a DSLR. Canon's R series seems to have kept a similar size to the DSLR.
Don't mind me with my professional gear: Selfie cam and cheapo cellphone
Touche my fellow sir ! 🥴😬
Id say Mirrorless cameras nowadays are mostly a clear win for Video, but for Photography, SLRs are at least just as great.
No plans on buying mirrorless system. Happy with my dslr. Just had a photo shoot. Fantastic pictures.
This was surprisingly comprehensive and accurate. Well done.
A great mini master-class. Extremely informative for those looking to make the switch.
I bought my first professional camera now that I have a career and can afford it. I ended up buying a Canon M50 Mark 2. It's a mirrorless camera and way better than my old Nikon L110. Just starting to learn about all the different features on it and how to use it. It's so much but very fun for a guy who likes telescopes like myself.
Who else was freaking out when he was touching those mirrors and image sensors? Lol
Edit: Wow, thanks for so many likes!
Yeahh😂😂
@PRN 123D It best to keep that areas a sterile as possible, so greasy fingers are generally not good for the inside of camera bodies.
@@krane15 I instinctively trusted this guy to have clean hands.
@Jeremy Kirkpatrick Me too. I just don't want to have to go through the hassle of trying to hunt down and fish out a hair or particle of dust or dirt. I take special care whenever I have to change lenses. I turn my back to the wind invert my camera an wrap my jacket around the entire apparatus. I'm accident prone and that one in a million gust of wind carrying all the road debris will happen just as I unscrew my lens. A real crimp in my style.
these are neither photographers nor experts on electronics or dslr's as the title should have told you. theyre liberal arts major losers relying on clickbait
well, my "newest" camera is a WW2 Graflex Speed Graphic, shooting 4x5' sheet film, one at a time. Average time to get one picture, 4 minutes. And I love it!!!
Speaking as a long time pro photographer (not a videographer) and as a Nikon user since the 80's (although I have owned and used Sony's A7 series) I still prefer the usability of the DSLR. I like a heavier camera that sits well in my hands. The smaller form factor, for me is fiddly and I find finding the buttons difficult, physically having to look to find them rather than knowing where they are. This can lead to missed shots. I dont like viewing image on the back to focus but prefer the viewfinder with the benefit of increased camera stability. My D4/4's never miss a shot. If I was shooting video it would be a different story.. Especially if on a gimble etc Weight counts but luckily I rarely shoot video which I hate shooting.
As a working professional photographer I can say that mirrorless camera,s are not taking over! Dream on!
I miss my OM-1. It always took amazing photos. I still have my OM-3. Wish there was a way to convert it from film to digital.
Canon and Nikon have dragged their feet in respect of releasing mirrorless. They have been prehistoric in their pioneering attitudes.
Sony (2015): Sony will concentrate on full-frame cameras in the future to beat Canon and Nikon.
Fujifilm: Our (APSC) Cameras will beat Canon and Nikon by 2019
Olympus & Panasonic: We will use MFT cameras to beat Canon and Nikon
Pentax: We will be the only one selling DSLRs when Canon and Nikon are dead.
Come 2022
Canon has dethroned Sony in "mirrorless" camera market share.
Nikon Z9 is most popular FF camera and the Canon R7 is the most popular APSC camera in 2022.
Woah, I did not expect to learn so many technical details on how both systems work and that's a really nice surprise! Great video :D
Incredible video. I had many "Oh!" moments.
It baffles me that such an excellent video gets dislikes.
Are people nuts?
Great explanation!!!
Simply a matter of opinion.The best reviews are from those that are newbies, while those the are experienced have opinions and respond. its natural and inevitable and should be expected. It is not personal but an attempt to be objective! (BTW, "I" did not dislike it. It's a good vid but its a bit too narrow scoped.)
nah, i still prefer DSLR over Mirrorless a million times. Mirrorless is great partially for the social-media people who need a light version and look through the screen versus the viewfinder anyway, or love that they get exposure assistance or features like eye-tracking. For me, all of this is pretty unimportant and i prefer a clean look through the lense
The 'clean look' through OVF only matters if you're using your lens as a telescope. All the negatives you list of mirrorless are an advantage to any working or amateur photographer
My first camera was a Brownie. It lacked all the features you mentioned and had a clean look through the viewfinder.....I prefer my XT3
For future photographers, it's not the camera taking the picture it is you. The body should not be your biggest concern. That being said glass should be taken into consideration.
Naiyo glass, glass, glass. It is all.about the glass & effective focus
The best thing about mirrorless is the ability to use vintage glass. DSLRs poised challenges due to the long flange focal distance which makes it impossible to adapt all sorts of legacy lenses. Taking glass into consideration, the shorter flange focal distance of mirrorless allows the use of a optical-less adapter tube to adapt vintage lenses once used on film SLRs. These old but good lenses would otherwise be thrown away, rotten or forgotten can be useful again in a second life on mirrorless bodies.
I've switched over to the DSLR's. When your talking about capturing the image itself (which is all we really care about), it has all the advantages. And also, people like the shutter and the bulkiness.
All the advantages? Such as?
When something feels right, why change??????? It makes for a good daily workout---skip the gym, buy a DSLR.
This is such a great video and explains so much of the trends I saw in camera popularity in the last 10 years.
"Nikon's first mirrorless camera Z6 and Z7"? The Nikon 1 series mirrorless cameras came out in 2011. On the same day this video came out Engadget also posted an article on the history of mirrorless cameras documenting this.
He should have said "Nikon's firs mirrorless full frame"
So many incorrect statements. Of course DSLRs can "see" what they are focusing on via their metering chips. This is how the best PDAF systems can track objects in 3D space. The small black-out caused by a mirror is often replaced by a much larger delay/freeze in an EVF. One is typically behind the action with an EVF quite a bit. Even the 120Hz Panasonic EVFs start smearing when you pan with them. Not nice at all. DFD is not "blazingly fast". It is still prone to the backwards/forwards honing in on focus of CDAF. It works much better most of the time, but if you used DFD, you will have noticed the typical pumping of focus. Videographers don't use manual focus because CDAF is slow or not smooth., they use it because even the best video AF systems are not fully reliable. Even if they track well, they'll sometimes attempt microadjustments leading to pumping bokeh in the background. In particular Panasonic's DFD is not acceptable in the regard.
DSLRs still sell in much higher numbers than MILCs and there will always be a market for DSLRs. This nonsense of mirrorless being newer and therefore better for everyone is really tiring. Pentax had in-body stabilisation for years and years in their DSLRs. A shorter flange distance is not only advantageous, it also has drawbacks. For instance, the wide angle lenses you are talking about would require sensors that can accept light from an extremely wide range of angles. Current sensors are still not very good at that. Have a look at the purple discoloration that classic short flange distance wide angle lenses caused on Sony bodies. In practice, even MILC wide angle lenses will attempt to achieve some level of telecentricity to avoid these problems.
I actually ditched the autofocus on my new a6400 and a6300. Not because they suck, they are fantastic but they give me no tangible control on the focus, it's a real pain in the ass to focus then refocus, talking about smoothness and transitional speed. So even if any marvelous AF systems come out, I'd still stick to my finger pulling the focus, it's more reliable that way. BTW, I shot all of my content with manual focus, funny skit or professional work, always manual focus. I don't hate AF but unless I'm shooting sport or dance video, I'll try to keep my hand busy, it's a good habit for any photographers.
@ Yes, that's the point I was trying to make.
3D Predictive auto-focus is incredibly useful in fast moving sports photography.
I recently purchased a Nikon 1 N1, a Canon FD lens, and an adapter (about $85 total) and have been taking really sweet photos, since. I realize that it's been all manual focus, but I really prefer manual over auto. Before this odd coupling, I always assumed that Nikon bodies should be with F lenses, Canon with FD or FL lenses, etc. The results of having what is considered one of the better lenses for the time, the Canon FL/FD with a really decent sensor receptor has been a franken-marriage made in heaven. It also makes me wish the camera companies would get over their egos and agree upon one mount. This is another case of I wish RUclips would allow posting jpgs as an option. I would love to see other persons work and to be able to show my own, at times.
Please take the Sonya9 into Account. It's incredible Speed kills all the DSLRS. Also keep in mind, that Sonys current Series of Mirrorless (like a9, a7riii, a7iii) have a very good Battery life. One day, i took 2400 Images on the a9 with one Battery.
I'm quite sure this video was not meant to be brand specific, rather a very informative piece about the two different tech types. I'm glad he didn't go all into a specific brand like all these other brand sponsored youtubers. No need to be a brand boy when all you're talking about is tech!
Very informative! I'm keeping my Canon 6D for another 5 years.
Nice lighting btw.
Tbh I love my DSLR because I can use it as an expensive telescope viewfinder
Can you say a commercial for Sony?
@@1jeta11 a commercial for Sony
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Kevin Prima i’d say longer than that. But i agree it will get obsolete in the future as mirrorless has been catching up at amazing rate.
I predict mirrorless will replace single mirror like digital cameras replaced mechanical cameras, when mirrorless are straight up better than single mirror, everyone will use 'em.
Many pros have been switching to mirrorless, and many went for Micro 4/3 for its light weight to ease the burden of all day carry of a professional kit. Autofocus is now better with mirrorless cameras than with DLSRs at the same price level, despite of what too many reviewers keep stating, who obviously don't actually cameras in real situations! In many cases, mirrorless actually beats far more expensive DSLRs in focus speed, and matches their image quality. The last time I compared my aging Olympus PEN cams (the E-PL8 was released 5 years ago) to some more expensive Canon and Nikon DSLRs, the clunky DLSRs lost badly, with slow or even very erratic focusing on some objects in well lit stores! Mirrorless may not have replaced DSLRs everywhere yet, but in Japan and some other markets that are at the cutting edge, they have indeed done so, and the future is clear. That is why Canon and Nikon are now finally jumping on mirrorless, because they both lost a LOT of the market share!
With the premium lenses the advantage in size and weight of mirrorless cameras is lost. The SLR technology began to be very popular with the Nikon F in 1959 and in 80's the autofocus era of SLR begun with the Minolta. With the passage to digital era during early 2000 cameras could autofocus without the electrooptical system of SLRs and didn't need a mechanical shutter too. However professional and enthusiasts photographers didn't want to loose their investment on expensive lenses designed for SLR cameras and camera manufacturers satisfied them with converted film SLR cameras to digital SLR cameras. The rest of amateur photographers were fine with digital compact cameras without mechanical shutters, mirrors or pentaprisms until the advent of smartphone cameras.
With mirrorless cameras manufacturers produces something simpler smaller, lighter, sometimes cheaper than SLR cameras with the extra profits of interchangeable lenses.
Is very important for manufacturers to learn the amateurs the importance of lenses and especially prime ones.
Smartphones lately can offer shallow depth of field with the use of two cameras, or telephoto lenses with the use of periscope design, or optical zoom with the use of multiple cameras, or very wide cameras or low high ISO noise with digital stacking etc. The virtues of dSLRs and mirrorless cameras are continuously and gradually replaced by smartphones. What it won't lost in the future are the virtues of lenses and especially prime lenses.
Smartphones have achieved many things in photography but their cameras lack sharpness and digital sharpness is very inferior. Chromatic aberrations, geometric distortions, vignetting, noise can be correct digitally but sharpness is nearly impossible. A soft photo can't be made sharp.
The Minolta DiMage 7 was only 5 mp was mirrorless also had in body stabilization and auto focus but not interchangeable lenses. Pentax K10D was the one I chose to replace the Minolta as at time I wasn't into video.
Now as I'm wanting to just play with video I'm looking at the Minolta MN67Z 20mp and 1080p. They aren't challenging any of the bigger names but they keep adding higher end features like the large screen on the back that swings out and can rotate so a vlogger can make sure they are in focus an the lighting is good. And while its not cheap the msrp is $499.
Lowell Martin What is mirrorless isn't really something very specific. In theory every digital camera without the mirror mechanism of dSLR cameras is mirrorless. What is considered mirrorless by most photographers is digital cameras without the SLR mirror mechanism that can permit interchangeable lenses and autofocus.
So the first mirrorless cameras with these specifications were made by Olympus / Panasonic with micro 4/3 sensors in 2008. In 2010 Samsung and Sony followed with APS-C mirrorless cameras and in 2013 the first full frame camera were created by Sony.
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I wasn't trying to champion mirrorless cameras I was just pointing out that Minolta has been doing this on the prosumer level for close to 20 years before anyone thought of coining the term mirrorless. That term has not a damn thing to do with interchangeable lenses. It is doing away with the mirror and taking what the sensor sees and sends it to an Electronic View Finder instead of the prism and ground glass that was originally used for decades.
I'm just peeved at Minolta for starting out so strong but has opted to cater to the consumer and low end amateur who either can't afford to buy more camera or doesn't want to spend money on something they won't take any farther.