I am photographer, and a rule of thumb I use is that I don’t upgrade my gear just because I want to, but if I literally cannot get the shot or effect I am trying to get without upgrades or peripherals. I grow with my gear. Same applies to videography I think 😊
Cheap kits only limit the scenarios you can use. You can use even iPhone but then you have to avoid any even moderately high dynamic range scenarios, you cannot separate background from the subject with focus. Using a small camera (or cheap kit lens) basically forces your aperture pretty small all the time in addition to poor dynamic range. (iPhones and other cheap items do have "HDR" modes but those are more marketing tricks than actual usable mode.) When you design your camera angles and scenes with that in mind, the end result will look good despite the low quality camera. If you need to capture anything without lots of control over the scene, then you need lots of gear.
Definitely. Same can be said with producing music. I have been producing music for a few years and while still working with minimal equipment I have learned to make my productions sound pretty professional (for what I'm working with that is).
I could see the happiness in the beginner's face. He looks so happy doing this. Good thing he found a you. He will be able to do his hobby that he appreciates so much happily. I can see the excitement in his eyes. I could tell he really has passion for photography
I honestly liked Ivan's version, although the colors weren't as good as Jake's but still, Ivan's felt more calming and in the end that's what the Bonsais are for
Absolutely no question. Night and day. Too many people think gear is everything. Not! Story is everything. the gear today is stellar. bottom line: good glass, good color science, good audio, good editing, good acting. Stellar gear is often a substitute for inexperience and talent. This video proved it. well done.
I love this Beginner vs Pro series. It's in my bucket list to challenge someone pro knowing I can't match them so that they can just obliterate me and measure their distance to mine and learn and earn a ton of experience from that challenge.
The color space error on the RED raw kind of ruined the comparison for me because the contrast levels looked so muddy and the color was all desaturated. It broke the tone. If he got that right it might have been a much closer competition. I guess it reinforces the point that expensive pro gear is not as forgiving of people who don't know every last detail of what they are working with.
That was the point, if he was helped with everything, it wouldnt be a real comoetition for us to see that its not the gear, but the experience that matters first of all, except for sound. The point was to establish the difference to get educated and experienced first and foremost
Maybe the irony is that the beginner didn’t know how to use the equipment. He would have actually done better with the same basic camera. Almost like he was duped into making a bad film. A bit dubious.
@@sahilshah44130 I have $25 rechargeable lapel mic that is AWESOME. I am a musician and have been recording since the 80's. I have had many many good mics including SM7B , Nuemann TLM 102 and more.... But here's a sample.... ruclips.net/video/kVi3KBpjD_U/видео.html I also had thyroid cancer and got my neck fused front and back with front plate removed. My vocal chords are held together by staples. Lost my high range but my lows are of thunder now..... ruclips.net/video/kVi3KBpjD_U/видео.html But yeah proper mic placement can mean a LOT.
From recording local, loud club concerts for a while, I've found that as long as the mic/camera preamp combo can carry the full range of normal human hearing (which varies quite a bit by manufacturer & model, especially for high volume levels, although I've had the most consistent good results with Sonys), you can get shocking good audio *if* you put the necessary processing time in. But that can be pretty time consuming, so for more time sensitive projects, even the cheapest Zoom recorder might be more advisable.
As a rookie filmmaker, I totally vibed with Jake's production style- not because he's got a lot more experience, but because he rocked the directorial scene and took those bold creative leaps. Out in the field, I make it a mission to let the creativity flow. Sure, gear and awesome editing matter big time, but let's get real-the heartbeat of a video is all about that storytelling magic. So, here's the golden nugget I've scooped up: it ain't just about clocking hours; it's about nailing the technique and marrying it with a splash of creativity. It's about owning those visual elements and bringing the script to life. I noticed Ivan also delved into this, but Jake is incredibly restless and thinks outside the box. So, I’m pursuing technical knowledge, and this has encouraged me to explore my wild and creative side even more. So, I'm on this grind, soaking up the tech know-how. Jake's got me hyped to dive even deeper into the loony, creative depths.
3:38 man was so excited to say, speeding and hear speed, then say action. I've developed this love for cameras, filming and photography i just cant explain the feeling.
I loved seeing Ivan's enthusiasm all throughout the video! Seeing just how much he loved doing this video made me so happy. I can't wait to see some of Ivan's work in the future!
I'm still in my beginner phase and what always strikes me about a pro is how much creative fun and freedom is driving their decisions. It's easy to get overwhelmed with all the technical aspects as a beginner and overthink everything based on what the fundamentals should be-whereas a pro is much more spontaneous and adapts to the environment. I think it just comes with time and familiarity and experimentation.
My unpopular opinion is that the "beginner" made a better story, apart from the colorgrading. You see, videomaking is not about gear or owning a crapton of microphones you would never use. It is about giving people emotions. It is about using the gear you have the best in any circumstance. Thats the skill someone pro has.
I agree, ultimately this video was about selling what a product can do. Since everyone has covered the video quality differences I'll cover the presented story. The beginner was more focused on a calm story for this product. I felt relaxed and this helped to focus that primary selling point. The pro had overall a nice looking and well placed set. However the pro sacrificed the story. I felt the speaker was the focus over the product. Between him seeming a little crazy and sharp audio spikes the whole presentation was just uncomfortable. If I was paying someone I would be highly upset someone tried to imply my product was for crazy people or unappealing. I'd be getting my money back... In conclusion, the beginner has mistakes easily fixed with more post processing to better serve what the client wanted to achieve, by selling the tree. While the pro had no way to fix his mistakes without a complete reshoot. For me the beginner was far more on brand objective and he did pretty good for going first while the pro watched for ideas on his turn next.
@@geronimo5537 maybe because its just a fun content, so he wanna make somethink experimental and unique, when he go to a pro work, he's getting serious,
As a pro photographer I've always subscribed to the 'the best camera...is the one you have with you' (within reason, of course). All the tech in the world isn't going to make you DePalma. It's how you utilize what you've got to work with. Fascinating comparative video - loved this. And any pro photographer will always tell you - never stop learning. Absorb everything.
I LOVE the dissonance that was being produced in Jake's video. The sound design was on point and well supported by the acting. Both Jake and Ivan did a great job. Ivan has a level head, and if he can keep that, it will serve him well as his career unfolds. Thanks for the video!
This kind of videos are very useful and educative for all the people that want to be a fulltime filmmaker. In my experience, I have learnt a lot with you guys, and thank you for that :D
Lovely series. I think save for the color grading, few framing issues and out of focus shots, the beginner did a wonderful job. story wise, it was perfect. the idea was to sell the product, I wouldn't buy a product that doesn't work and it was exactly what the pro did. he made dalin more maniacal and creepy which goes against what the product stands for. of course, the best video in terms of what I mentioned above goes to the pro however, story-wise, give the beginner his accolades. side note, I love what Jake did with the b-roll especially the water squirting and rich lightening.
This was another awesome Beginner VS Pro vid, I as a new FTFM course member, can only wait till my story unfolds as a beginner to a pro who can say “it’s all about the skill, not the gear” Thanks FTFM!
Definitely see the difference between the two. Ivan's video had a moderate story to back up what was being said while Jake's had a better one. That comes with knowing how to make a story through the topic of the video. Using all aspects of of filming and editing. This taught me a few things, thanks 👍👍👍
I always love these videos! They remind me to just get better with the gear that I already have. And once you master what you have, you’ll be able excel so far with upgraded gear.
this video touched my soul when you had the guy even out the levels of the two shades in the background. i'm a music production guy but man does that hit home in the best way
Ivan got all that help for the shoot, but then everyone left him completely unassisted in post. I still think he would've lost, but getting the coloring/grading even just 80% there would have made a HUGE difference.
Outstanding job for both Jake and Ivan, considering the challenges of being novice with pro gear, and being pro with novice gear. This was a huge leap for Ivan, which in a sense makes him the winner in his own rights. As well as for his next client. As for Jake, he gets some serious credentials for turning novice into pros. Best video I have seen for the start of 2023.
Here’s my review: I loved ivan’s story-telling a bit better than that of jake, it fit very well with the calming effects of the plant. But.. I preferred jake’s approach to filming, they way he captured everything was cinematic. If I could hone Ivan’s story telling skills and jake’s shooting and directing skills, I’ll be alright.. Overall, this was an Avenue to learn. Thank you 🙏
I agree with you. I thought it was a good message in the first, but when you hear the comments of the other guy you pay attention to details you didn't know. But I thought Ivan colors weren't good, so this is why the second film was better to me.
I'm a beginner i face lot of problems in my short film making but i realize I'm not in reality i just dream expensive things... Thanks for take me into reality...
Yea, the colour was bad on Ivan's, but I sympathize with him. When I started shooting in log it was pretty painful to grade to start with. Love these videos
Hi guys, we had seen truely the big difference in beetwen the big and a small one,its a package for my sight watching,especially lighted density,and how you design is dramatically match.
I love how you can give a pro a “garbage” equipment that any beginner wanting to learn has now rather than blowing away their life’s savings on a Red or an Alexa and not know a single thing what to do.
That was pretty epic; a great addition I thought I would see was the pro using the pro gears in the last part of the video allowing full capabilities in that situation. However, that was a great learning experience for me. Cheers!
This was really fun and educational. I'm toying with the idea of investing in some equipment to document my travels. This definitely helps me understand what is more important. I'll keep learning before making a purchase.
Simply by looking at the end result (without knowing who's pro and beginner), Jake's result was awesome while Ivan's was awful. This is a great example to define which more important : having a pro gear to appears pro filmmaker OR practicing and experimenting more with available gear you have to become a pro filmmaker.
Thanks for this video, it re-enforces the fact you don’t need expensive gear to start a channel. This world fascinates me. I started my channel with an iPhone only, but I’ve recently started investing in apps and mics. I want to take it to the next level. I think working on creativity is most important when new
I‘ve been talking to a filmmaker colleague and we agreed on that „camera matters the most“ topic: it’s only us. I mean like 10bit 4.2.2 and full frame sensors are nice. But the audience probably won’t see the difference to a 8bit recording with micro four thirds. But what they recognize, is how a story is told. It’s only us, who want to work with cinema camcorders an stuff. It’s nice to have, but as you see: a cam for a thousand bucks works too.
I think beginner in this series means "someone that knows how to use a camera". If you would do this with a person that has no idea how a film set works, zero knowledge of lightning and natural light, it would just be a mess.
I took 4 years of photography back in 1999-2003 majored in information technology. Over the past 20 years I’ve dreamed of learning film and photography as a pro. I’m faintly a hobbyist but my friends say I have some artist talent. I would pay to have some of this hands on experience with these guys.
I love this video haven’t even finish the video man I love the guys energy he’s going to be great one day it’s ok bro I’ve been a fulltime film maker for a year now and been a memeber for 6months it’s ok you’ll get used to all this man much love 🤲🏽💙
I too feel like Jake should win, because the color of Ivan's video was not good. Another mistake from Jake's video is that his B-roll is not that stable as Ivan's. But honestly, Ivan did a great job in the flow of the video. Great Video bro!
I believe in the first video when the dialogue starts, the voiceover should have been layered over the part where he was beating his head against the frame. That would look even better! What do you guys think?
I liked the beginners wayyyyy better than the pro. ..it was definitely more engaging than the creepy one the pro did. The only thing was the beginner needed to improve was the color grading, which is really a quick fix in davinci.
A lot of fun! Some ideas for next episodes: - Amateur skinnywasher (or “dishwasher for establishment”). - Amateur cyclist. - Professional physicist w/ experiment design. To make a great commercial, simply add all the parts to speak one sentence. If you overstate (double an idea) you’ll notice repetition, which must be cut or softened. Well-made, My Children.
It's impressive what Ivan was doing for a complete beginner. Good job man. 👍🏼 I'm also not a pro, but still learning. So I can tell you, it is great that you already did some little mistakes on this fake job. You will probably not do them again. 😉
I'm suprised Parker missed the letterbox issue at 9:31 and the flare at 14:48 is parallaxing faster than the video right, so it may be animated in from editing right?
Wooow. It takes a pro to know either the story is told well. I love the concept from Ivas’s video but Jakes video opened my thinking again. Great video .
I think I have the masterpiece answer. Jake's video with Ivan's vibe. I think when you are talking about something for overcoming anger issues that's a serious issue for people so the comedic/creepy route is a commercial you would do AFTER a more serious interview to show how you have overcome the anger and become playful with it so basically use Ivan's/client doing his thing but then use the shots Jake took. Perfection in my opinion.
OMG really loved your intro music, what was the source epidemicsound or musicbed or else? I would love to see a tutorial of yours on how to choose the right music tracks for your project like how you go through and use all the tags in epidemic sound (or other platforms) to find the perfect required one for your project?
Would be cool to see the pro’s edit the shots of the beginner and show what it was truly capable of.
I THINK SO TO
A PRODUCTION IS NOT ONE THING
Idk I want to have someone edit one of my videos just to see what another editor could do with my work
@@bandamountcinematics what kind of stuff are you shooting
@@kitten-whisperer NO. HE THINKS SO. YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO MAKE
HIM RELAX
@David Pasion lol calm down reeetard.
As a beginner who can only afford kit lens, this video really encourage me to do more with what I have... Thank you very much...!
I am photographer, and a rule of thumb I use is that I don’t upgrade my gear just because I want to, but if I literally cannot get the shot or effect I am trying to get without upgrades or peripherals. I grow with my gear. Same applies to videography I think 😊
@@keithbillings3649 Very good
Lightning is 80% of the look
Yep, I use my Sony r4 as a video camera on the gimbal and photo camera off 😳.
Cheap kits only limit the scenarios you can use. You can use even iPhone but then you have to avoid any even moderately high dynamic range scenarios, you cannot separate background from the subject with focus. Using a small camera (or cheap kit lens) basically forces your aperture pretty small all the time in addition to poor dynamic range. (iPhones and other cheap items do have "HDR" modes but those are more marketing tricks than actual usable mode.)
When you design your camera angles and scenes with that in mind, the end result will look good despite the low quality camera. If you need to capture anything without lots of control over the scene, then you need lots of gear.
Really shows that it’s better to know what you’re doing then upgrade gear as you go
Agreed going back to basics.
Well I think it is the opposite.
Definitely. Same can be said with producing music. I have been producing music for a few years and while still working with minimal equipment I have learned to make my productions sound pretty professional (for what I'm working with that is).
It's important to have good gear, but just as important to know how (and when) to use it. I'm a bit of a newb to video, but a pro with audio.
I like this unique photographer a lot. ruclips.net/video/6XGETo4YxM4/видео.html
I could see the happiness in the beginner's face. He looks so happy doing this. Good thing he found a you. He will be able to do his hobby that he appreciates so much happily. I can see the excitement in his eyes. I could tell he really has passion for photography
I honestly liked Ivan's version, although the colors weren't as good as Jake's but still, Ivan's felt more calming and in the end that's what the Bonsais are for
😂
Absolutely no question. Night and day. Too many people think gear is everything. Not! Story is everything. the gear today is stellar. bottom line: good glass, good color science, good audio, good editing, good acting. Stellar gear is often a substitute for inexperience and talent.
This video proved it. well done.
I love this Beginner vs Pro series. It's in my bucket list to challenge someone pro knowing I can't match them so that they can just obliterate me and measure their distance to mine and learn and earn a ton of experience from that challenge.
Then go get in a boxing ring, dummy… this isn’t for the faint hearted
The color space error on the RED raw kind of ruined the comparison for me because the contrast levels looked so muddy and the color was all desaturated. It broke the tone. If he got that right it might have been a much closer competition. I guess it reinforces the point that expensive pro gear is not as forgiving of people who don't know every last detail of what they are working with.
Agreed! I felt the same way about this. I was hoping they had a person on their team color grade everything for them to make it fair.
It’s s log … it’s because later you can put contrast in the editing
@@Jaangraphyprivat it's r3d raw not log
That was the point, if he was helped with everything, it wouldnt be a real comoetition for us to see that its not the gear, but the experience that matters first of all, except for sound. The point was to establish the difference to get educated and experienced first and foremost
Maybe the irony is that the beginner didn’t know how to use the equipment. He would have actually done better with the same basic camera. Almost like he was duped into making a bad film. A bit dubious.
In Jake's defense, the rode micro could've been mixed slightly better. even with some EQ tweaking it could sound really decent!
I totally agree!
But still i dont think we can get that good quality to compare to a pro mic....
@@sahilshah44130 I have $25 rechargeable lapel mic that is AWESOME. I am a musician and have been recording since the 80's. I have had many many good mics including SM7B , Nuemann TLM 102 and more.... But here's a sample.... ruclips.net/video/kVi3KBpjD_U/видео.html I also had thyroid cancer and got my neck fused front and back with front plate removed. My vocal chords are held together by staples. Lost my high range but my lows are of thunder now..... ruclips.net/video/kVi3KBpjD_U/видео.html But yeah proper mic placement can mean a LOT.
From recording local, loud club concerts for a while, I've found that as long as the mic/camera preamp combo can carry the full range of normal human hearing (which varies quite a bit by manufacturer & model, especially for high volume levels, although I've had the most consistent good results with Sonys), you can get shocking good audio *if* you put the necessary processing time in. But that can be pretty time consuming, so for more time sensitive projects, even the cheapest Zoom recorder might be more advisable.
@@melodymatters Yep I have a Zoom q2n and I LOVE IT. I also have a Zoom H2n but that does video too.
As a rookie filmmaker, I totally vibed with Jake's production style- not because he's got a lot more experience, but because he rocked the directorial scene and took those bold creative leaps.
Out in the field, I make it a mission to let the creativity flow. Sure, gear and awesome editing matter big time, but let's get real-the heartbeat of a video is all about that storytelling magic.
So, here's the golden nugget I've scooped up: it ain't just about clocking hours; it's about nailing the technique and marrying it with a splash of creativity. It's about owning those visual elements and bringing the script to life.
I noticed Ivan also delved into this, but Jake is incredibly restless and thinks outside the box. So, I’m pursuing technical knowledge, and this has encouraged me to explore my wild and creative side even more.
So, I'm on this grind, soaking up the tech know-how. Jake's got me hyped to dive even deeper into the loony, creative depths.
3:38 man was so excited to say, speeding and hear speed, then say action.
I've developed this love for cameras, filming and photography i just cant explain the feeling.
I am selling my Sony DSLR for $600 bucks.I want to buy the a7iv
You can reach out to me if you’re interested.check it out👆👆👏
Jake’s Video: looks like horror
Ivan’s Video: looks like Apple event
Or stripped-down TED talk.
hahaha I was thinking the same!
Jake managed to tell the psycho story as intended...well done Jake.
The actor did very well with the role.
I am selling my Sony DSLR for $600 bucks.I want to buy the a7iv
You can reach out to me if you’re interested.check it out👆👆👏
I loved seeing Ivan's enthusiasm all throughout the video! Seeing just how much he loved doing this video made me so happy. I can't wait to see some of Ivan's work in the future!
Yeah. Enthusiasm and passion is like a fuel🙇🏽♀️
I'm still in my beginner phase and what always strikes me about a pro is how much creative fun and freedom is driving their decisions.
It's easy to get overwhelmed with all the technical aspects as a beginner and overthink everything based on what the fundamentals should be-whereas a pro is much more spontaneous and adapts to the environment. I think it just comes with time and familiarity and experimentation.
My unpopular opinion is that the "beginner" made a better story, apart from the colorgrading.
You see, videomaking is not about gear or owning a crapton of microphones you would never use. It is about giving people emotions. It is about using the gear you have the best in any circumstance.
Thats the skill someone pro has.
I agree, ultimately this video was about selling what a product can do. Since everyone has covered the video quality differences I'll cover the presented story. The beginner was more focused on a calm story for this product. I felt relaxed and this helped to focus that primary selling point. The pro had overall a nice looking and well placed set. However the pro sacrificed the story. I felt the speaker was the focus over the product. Between him seeming a little crazy and sharp audio spikes the whole presentation was just uncomfortable. If I was paying someone I would be highly upset someone tried to imply my product was for crazy people or unappealing. I'd be getting my money back...
In conclusion, the beginner has mistakes easily fixed with more post processing to better serve what the client wanted to achieve, by selling the tree. While the pro had no way to fix his mistakes without a complete reshoot. For me the beginner was far more on brand objective and he did pretty good for going first while the pro watched for ideas on his turn next.
Agree. Beginners story would make someone want to purchase. Pro story was disturbing
@@geronimo5537 maybe because its just a fun content, so he wanna make somethink experimental and unique, when he go to a pro work, he's getting serious,
@@nurwacana then he failed all around if that is the case.
@@benryanredteal914 agreed. Pros story was confusing in my opinion. Beginner did well here.
My favorite series is back on RUclips. As a Dslr ‘shooter’ these cheap gear videos are really helpful,encouraging and inspiring. Dreams are valid❤️
As a pro photographer I've always subscribed to the 'the best camera...is the one you have with you' (within reason, of course). All the tech in the world isn't going to make you DePalma. It's how you utilize what you've got to work with. Fascinating comparative video - loved this. And any pro photographer will always tell you - never stop learning. Absorb everything.
I LOVE the dissonance that was being produced in Jake's video. The sound design was on point and well supported by the acting. Both Jake and Ivan did a great job. Ivan has a level head, and if he can keep that, it will serve him well as his career unfolds. Thanks for the video!
I love these Beginner vs Pro series. I would enjoy seeing one that goes deeper into sound design.
Ivan’s face when Jake told him there was a key piece missing is a golden moment 😂
This kind of videos are very useful and educative for all the people that want to be a fulltime filmmaker. In my experience, I have learnt a lot with you guys, and thank you for that :D
Ivan did great. I really loved his video. Even with little training he’s been able to do this.
This is so encouraging and makes me value my current tools more. So much room to grow. Love this competition also.
It wasn't a competition with Jake. He's way too good. Ivan did a good job as a beginner. But experience and knowledge beats all. Good job guys.
Jackob just made me feel so proud of my broken 16-50mm Sony lens and gave me hope that I can do better in videos except that my camera is just a Nex6
Nice job Ivan. Takes a lot of courage to take on a pro like Jake. Very inspiring.
I am selling my Sony DSLR for $650 bucks.I want to buy the a7iv
You can reach out to me if you’re interested.check it out👆👆👏
Jake is so bloody good. That was glorious to see and watch. Love this content.
I am selling my Sony DSLR for $650 bucks.I want to buy the a7iv
You can reach out to me if you’re interested.check it out👆👆👏
No he isn’t. He has a very long way to go compared to professional cinematographers in the movie industry, or even say BBC documentary videographers.
You should do an expensive camera with budget lights Vs cheap camera with expensive lights challenge.
interesting, i like this idea!
@@JakeWeisler yeah, I looked and I can’t find one on RUclips. I’d do it myself but I just have a cheap camera and cheap lighting. Lolll
Just love this series, it makes us realise the real potential of our gears.
I love that Ivan was given a beginner camera as part of the competition.
Sound aside, Jake's vid was clearly more polished and a bit more fun.
Lovely series. I think save for the color grading, few framing issues and out of focus shots, the beginner did a wonderful job. story wise, it was perfect. the idea was to sell the product, I wouldn't buy a product that doesn't work and it was exactly what the pro did. he made dalin more maniacal and creepy which goes against what the product stands for. of course, the best video in terms of what I mentioned above goes to the pro however, story-wise, give the beginner his accolades. side note, I love what Jake did with the b-roll especially the water squirting and rich lightening.
This was another awesome Beginner VS Pro vid, I as a new FTFM course member, can only wait till my story unfolds as a beginner to a pro who can say “it’s all about the skill, not the gear” Thanks FTFM!
Definitely see the difference between the two. Ivan's video had a moderate story to back up what was being said while Jake's had a better one. That comes with knowing how to make a story through the topic of the video. Using all aspects of of filming and editing. This taught me a few things, thanks 👍👍👍
Watched the whole thing, very engaging 💪🏼
@Quân Phạm Viết lạc rồi ạ 😅
Oh hello we meet again ;)
The most important thing is the person behind a camera then it s the camera quality 🙏🙏🙏
Oh yess...
Finally, the series is back 😍
I'm missing you so much London BTW, I was so influenced by your beginner vs pro editing showdown video.
I am selling my Sony DSLR for $600 bucks.I want to buy the a7iv
You can reach out to me if you’re interested.check it out👆👆👏
Im a beginner.. Your words changed mind set.. gears doesn't matter, only skills are matter ✨💕
I always love these videos! They remind me to just get better with the gear that I already have. And once you master what you have, you’ll be able excel so far with upgraded gear.
this video touched my soul when you had the guy even out the levels of the two shades in the background.
i'm a music production guy but man does that hit home in the best way
I’m not sure about the creepy vibe in the Pro video to be honest, although everything else was amazing. Kudos to both!
You know a video is good when your girlfriend who's not interested in the topic cant stop watching. Love this series
The Sony ZVE10 is a great camera as demonstrated here by Jake.
How about a revisit of this guy? See how much he's grown since this was filmed.
Ivan got all that help for the shoot, but then everyone left him completely unassisted in post. I still think he would've lost, but getting the coloring/grading even just 80% there would have made a HUGE difference.
Outstanding job for both Jake and Ivan, considering the challenges of being novice with pro gear, and being pro with novice gear. This was a huge leap for Ivan, which in a sense makes him the winner in his own rights. As well as for his next client. As for Jake, he gets some serious credentials for turning novice into pros. Best video I have seen for the start of 2023.
Here’s my review:
I loved ivan’s story-telling a bit better than that of jake, it fit very well with the calming effects of the plant. But.. I preferred jake’s approach to filming, they way he captured everything was cinematic. If I could hone Ivan’s story telling skills and jake’s shooting and directing skills, I’ll be alright.. Overall, this was an Avenue to learn. Thank you 🙏
I agree with you. I thought it was a good message in the first, but when you hear the comments of the other guy you pay attention to details you didn't know. But I thought Ivan colors weren't good, so this is why the second film was better to me.
I'm a beginner i face lot of problems in my short film making but i realize I'm not in reality i just dream expensive things... Thanks for take me into reality...
Yea, the colour was bad on Ivan's, but I sympathize with him. When I started shooting in log it was pretty painful to grade to start with.
Love these videos
I am selling my Sony DSLR for $600 bucks.I want to buy the a7iv
You can reach out to me if you’re interested.check it out👆👆👏
Hi guys, we had seen truely the big difference in beetwen the big and a small one,its a package for my sight watching,especially lighted density,and how you design is dramatically match.
I love how you can give a pro a “garbage” equipment that any beginner wanting to learn has now rather than blowing away their life’s savings on a Red or an Alexa and not know a single thing what to do.
i felt Parkers giggling at 15:29 xD i love Jakobs aproach. it`s definitely outstanding
That was pretty epic; a great addition I thought I would see was the pro using the pro gears in the last part of the video allowing full capabilities in that situation. However, that was a great learning experience for me. Cheers!
My goodness the last one was unbelievable!! With less Jake did a a peace of alwesome art!! Love it!!❤️
This video was amazing glad to see another pro vs beginner video!
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ZV-E10 is my main camera that I using for living.
It's really great camera for low budget filmmaker.
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I love the starting scene both of their face reaction after having the camera. 😊
If Jake was using a good mic I wouldn't even notice the fact that it was shot on a cheap cam... That was so good!
This was really fun and educational. I'm toying with the idea of investing in some equipment to document my travels. This definitely helps me understand what is more important. I'll keep learning before making a purchase.
I love this, I took a film & tv beginner class and its a lot more work then other ppl see.
Simply by looking at the end result (without knowing who's pro and beginner), Jake's result was awesome while Ivan's was awful.
This is a great example to define which more important : having a pro gear to appears pro filmmaker OR practicing and experimenting more with available gear you have to become a pro filmmaker.
but 1k camera isn't a beginner gear, I have a 20 dollar camera and thats enough for me
I love seeing how that guy really enjoy working with pro gear. How he smiles and everything when he is doing something
Hey man, just ordered your mic and necklace the other day, really looking forward to using them!! Keep up the great work!
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Thanks for this video, it re-enforces the fact you don’t need expensive gear to start a channel. This world fascinates me. I started my channel with an iPhone only, but I’ve recently started investing in apps and mics. I want to take it to the next level. I think working on creativity is most important when new
I could watch these videos all day! Great stuff!
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Hey you guys taught me that it’s not about the quality of the camera it’s the skills behind the camera
Love these "Vs's" videos, very educational and entertaining.
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I‘ve been talking to a filmmaker colleague and we agreed on that „camera matters the most“ topic: it’s only us. I mean like 10bit 4.2.2 and full frame sensors are nice. But the audience probably won’t see the difference to a 8bit recording with micro four thirds. But what they recognize, is how a story is told.
It’s only us, who want to work with cinema camcorders an stuff. It’s nice to have, but as you see: a cam for a thousand bucks works too.
Always much fun watching this! Ivan's got a bright future in filmmaking 🙌 great works both of them 🔥
Amazing video!))) A clear example of the gap in video content between a beginner with top equipment and a professional with amateur equipment.
I think beginner would do a lot better with the sony zv-e10. Because the auto settings are very well with this type of cameras.
I think beginner in this series means "someone that knows how to use a camera". If you would do this with a person that has no idea how a film set works, zero knowledge of lightning and natural light, it would just be a mess.
I took 4 years of photography back in 1999-2003 majored in information technology. Over the past 20 years I’ve dreamed of learning film and photography as a pro. I’m faintly a hobbyist but my friends say I have some artist talent. I would pay to have some of this hands on experience with these guys.
I love this video haven’t even finish the video man I love the guys energy he’s going to be great one day it’s ok bro I’ve been a fulltime film maker for a year now and been a memeber for 6months it’s ok you’ll get used to all this man much love 🤲🏽💙
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one think i like in your content is that you dont over promoting your product like so many other channels !!!
I already see this video is gonna blow up on views😅… so so good quality as always… keep rocking!!!
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I too feel like Jake should win, because the color of Ivan's video was not good. Another mistake from Jake's video is that his B-roll is not that stable as Ivan's. But honestly, Ivan did a great job in the flow of the video. Great Video bro!
Amazing video! You don't magically become good with $100K equipment!
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Ivan's intro was the best,but all of a sudden boom he spoilt everything 🥱😂😂
I believe in the first video when the dialogue starts, the voiceover should have been layered over the part where he was beating his head against the frame.
That would look even better!
What do you guys think?
The ZV-E10 is great since you have log and the e-mount so you can 100% rig it out to be a mini-cine cam
Would be cool to see the intermediate vs PRO
"Such a great video! Your humor and clear explanations make complex topics easy to understand. Loved every minute!"
I liked the beginners wayyyyy better than the pro. ..it was definitely more engaging than the creepy one the pro did. The only thing was the beginner needed to improve was the color grading, which is really a quick fix in davinci.
A lot of fun! Some ideas for next episodes:
- Amateur skinnywasher (or “dishwasher for establishment”).
- Amateur cyclist.
- Professional physicist w/ experiment design.
To make a great commercial, simply add all the parts to speak one sentence. If you overstate (double an idea) you’ll notice repetition, which must be cut or softened. Well-made, My Children.
Great show,thank you for sharing your research,and cool work with the leather,bet that takes some skill,and patients
thank you so much! this content is great! IT helps to emphasise what is capable with limited equipment! - a real gem of a video ... MAGIC
It's impressive what Ivan was doing for a complete beginner. Good job man. 👍🏼
I'm also not a pro, but still learning. So I can tell you, it is great that you already did some little mistakes on this fake job. You will probably not do them again. 😉
What an amazing video! As someone who is passing about media and broadcasting, this was a treat!
I'm suprised Parker missed the letterbox issue at 9:31 and the flare at 14:48 is parallaxing faster than the video right, so it may be animated in from editing right?
Wooow. It takes a pro to know either the story is told well.
I love the concept from Ivas’s video but Jakes video opened my thinking again.
Great video .
Love everything about you! I enjoy a lot and learn a lot. Thank you for all the tips..hope to meet you one day! Keep it up!
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I think I have the masterpiece answer. Jake's video with Ivan's vibe. I think when you are talking about something for overcoming anger issues that's a serious issue for people so the comedic/creepy route is a commercial you would do AFTER a more serious interview to show how you have overcome the anger and become playful with it so basically use Ivan's/client doing his thing but then use the shots Jake took. Perfection in my opinion.
OMG really loved your intro music, what was the source epidemicsound or musicbed or else?
I would love to see a tutorial of yours on how to choose the right music tracks for your project like how you go through and use all the tags in epidemic sound (or other platforms) to find the perfect required one for your project?
Beginner's video was better hands down just cause of the quality. Incomparable.
Me watching the vid in 240p
😂 so what is your verdict?
Me on 2160p
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Me also 😢
Jake was the winner in my eys. But Ivan did amazing for only 1 month(ish) of experience. Cant wait to see what else he has done.
Pro is a pro and pro mostly wins!!!
Nice to see. That your skills in one way matter more than the gears. In reality, it is the same with everything.
How do they film the interview from two different angles using one camera? They ask the subject to read again?
Yep
This is my go-to cinematography channel anytime 🔥