Respect, Omar. One of the most lucid and least partisan and most practice-based explanations of the mirrorless vs. DSLR experience I've come across. It still beats me why so few people can accept that ultimately it's all a matter of preference and that there's no need whatsoever to turn it into some kind of religious war. There's a place in photography for both. Heck, some people are still shooting rangefinders and/or film cameras and having a blast with them!
I went back to my D750 to wipe off the dust. I will say I still prefer the picture quality of the D750 vs my XT2. So much easier to use and the switches and dials are so much more accessible and easier to use. I still use my Fujifilm X-T2 for travel. Overall my D750 is still a great camera and the pictures turn out amazing. Less post work than with my X-T2.
@@thenexthobby it’s true. At least for me it is. When covid hit I went through most of my catalog and lots of un edited photos. Off the bat I noticed how clean and crisp the photos are. Colors look more natural, not just with from my D750 but former Nikon bodies like the D3100 and D7100. However, I do enjoy some of Fujifilm’s film simulations and also is what I use on my Europe trips due to its compact size.
If you love the D750's imaging so much, you may want to take a look at the Nikon Z5, it is believed to be the same sensor as the D750. The Z6ii also has amazing imaging, and has a few very important features that the Z5 doesn't have, but if you're just looking for a Full Frame inexpensive high quality camera, the Z5 is an amazing option. It went on sale last year for about $500 off in the early spring. Maybe keep an eye out for that?
oh this is so good to hear. i switched from D750 to an X-T3 (and x100f for travel and street), but i was never entirely satisfied with what i got out of the fuji and felt it took longer to get the desired look during post.
One scene I edited out pointed to two cameras that try to marry both experiences. The Nikon D780 is a DSLR that has the mirrorless experience of the Nikon Z series on the screen. AND...the Fujifilm X100 and XPro series are mirrorless cameras that have optical viewfinders. Yay.
I purchased D780 to keep alongside my Z7 and Z5. It gives real good mirrorless features for portraits with great performance of using f lenses natively rather than adapting and still having the dslr feel!
I came down to mention the hybrid model the X100's and XPro's use. I really love being able to toggle between them. If I'm outside and my exposure is pretty consistent, I love shooting through the OVF. But once the lighting becomes challenging or varied from moment to moment, the EVF makes things easier. I'm kind of amazed no one released a DSLR with a pop-up EVF embedded in the OVF. I like using a finder over the back screen and I would have loved having the flexibility to swap based on the situation.
Photography is an art as we all know, if you gave me the best guitar in the world i still couldn't play it, so matter how cutting edge the camera is, it's down to the flesh hanging off the back of it!
BINGO, I don't think a lot of people realize this with price range of cameras. Seems many are under the impression if they spend 4 grand on a camera body and 3 grand on a lens they are magically going to get great pictures.
I choose the right way I think... I have mirrorless cameras and I kept all my pro DSLR ! That's the way it is. Thanks for your time Omar. Always a pleasure.
ahah needed this to pop up in my feeds today! today, I receive my first mirrorless. ironically, in today's facebook memories, it brought up that exactly 10 years ago I received my first dslr. it's about time for an upgrade!!
Blown exposure was never a problem for me. Shooting with the same camera for a few years, I got used to knowing what the exposure would be based on how I metered the scene. But occasionally I'd be pleasantly surprised with something really spectacular, especially shooting landscapes. Having moved to mirrorless, I think I miss those little surprises the most. I now feel more like I'm documenting a scene than creating, and I've started thinking of picking up a DSLR again...
Well explained Omar. I use both switching between full frame DSLR and APS-C mirrorless. Visually I still prefer looking through a DSLR pentaprism for the clarity and way I can access a scene with my eye and not an EVF giving an electronic interpretation. Maybe that’s because I’ve been shooting SLR/DSLR for 30 yrs since I was a kid and mirrorless only 5 yrs. Somebody newer to photography only shooting mirrorless might struggle a bit going to a DSLR because - dare I say it - you have be more experienced at accessing the light in a scene with a DSLR and mirrorless makes you a bit lazy to access there scene (not denigrating mirrorless uses there) Oh and a big wide pentaprism view is like standing on the balcony looking out over the beautiful view rather than sitting watching TV of the scene. Where would you rather be?!
Ha! nice timing. I just rented a DSLR because I am feeling nostalgic :) I really really enjoy OVF's... But mirrorless get the job done quicker for sure. You forgot to mention that you can still preview your exposure on a DSLR by turning Liveview on :) A little slower workflow than EVF's but it's just one more button to push.
Nice Omar, I went from suing a Nikon D700 professionally for weddings which I retired from. To now using a Fuji X-T3 and a Fuji X-T20 for general photography. The greatest adjustment I had to make is that mirror-less (at least the ones i now use) have a slight delay from what you see in the viewfinder when taking a shot. The DSLR is snappier in that regard. Other than that the mirror-less is a much better shooting experience for me. Picture quality is the same but losing that bulkiness and weight was a big one for me.
Just as we transitioned from analog to digital we’re now experiencing the transition from SLRs to mirrorless. I personally shoot mirrorless and I don’t see me ever going back to DSLRs. Once you get comfortable and acknowledge the benefits of it it’s a no brainer.
@@Stefan1968ful People HAVE stopped being nostalgic. You can't get DSLRs in Europe or Asia most of the time without backordering, because they're all in USA. Only Americans seem to not have caught the memo that DSLRs are dead. Was there a superbowl commercial or something?
Great video, Omar - especially for the newbies trying to decide. I love all my Fuji mirrorless cameras for many reasons but to me, there is a deep satisfaction of the “clappety klunk” slap of the DSLR obliging me to say that they will have to pry my d750 out of my cold, dead hand!
While I agree with the points you raised. You missed one very important feature set "ergonomics". Ergonomics are much better on the DSLR. I went from DSLR to a Z6 and a few lenses when it all first came out and within a year I sold the lot and repurchased D500 / D850 / D4. The D4 trounces the lot in terms of handling and viewfinder experience. Maybe the Z9 is different, but to be honest I've zoned out. To much marketing waffle from all manufacturers these days.
Thanks Omar. The transition to mirrorless (for me) has been a tough one, having shot a DSLR for years. I’m getting there though and can definitely see the benefits of mirrorless. Still happily shooting both for the time being. 👍
Great video Omar, a good comparison. It all comes down to choice really, so many choices today in camera type, sensor size etc. You have to pick which works best for you. I still use DSLRs as I prefer the optical viewfinder over the EVF. I do own Leicas a M240 and M10P as well as a Nikon Z5 and an Olympus Pen -F digital. When i need mirrorless Leicas are always my first choice due to their size and are full frame. I find Mirrorless cameras from the other manufactures to be much larger especially the lenses in fact no real difference from DSLR full frame lenses. I only use the Z5 for casual photography and as a second or third body when I am out photographing the odd assignment or wildlife and nature, I can stuff it in my gear bag or my vest. My advice is pick what's best for you and concentrate more on mastering lighting and good composition.
Fun video. Thanks for creating it. As a Fuji shooter you should also mentioned about X-pro and X-100 series which has hybrid viewfinder. For the waterfall Olympus has a simulation build-in to show you how sleek will be the water (ND simulation effect before you take a picture). For me the hard part is to see thru EVF and judge the lighting of the scene. Because it a monitor and it is a back-lit. The workaround is to change brightness of EVF to minus 3. But that is what I miss from dSLR.
I spent the first minute of this video mocking your entry lmao . i had to rewind and rewatch without being distracted by the voice in my head also mocking you 🤣🤣🤣
Great vid, Omar. Personally, I found that even though I’ve moved to mirrorless, I miss how much easier, at least for me, that the DSLR was, namely the Canon 5D Mark III. For me, the EOS R and the R5 are better, but much more complicated, especially with all the options given. Fv mode though, as I see it, is groundbreaking. I see mirrorless as being better only for more keepers, but great photos can be had by most cameras out there, even Rebel series or similar if you know what you’re doing
Thanks for your great videos. After 7 years with my Olympus OM-D I just found out I can switch the EVF to "what you see is what you get". I wondered why it always showed me perfect exposure. Now it shows me how the photo will look like. Actually I like both.
I didn’t really feel my transition it felt totally natural for me to move over to mirrorless. Made me understand metering etc more as I could see what I was doing whilst changing settings. Photography just suddenly “clicked” for me ha ha. 😂. That’s surely a worthy Omar pun I just did there. X
Omar, one critical (subjective) technical information about the sensor difference. I believe most of the dslr’s, especially the old ones, have front lit sensors, while the new ones are all back lit. On another topic, have you seen oil and dust issue on your d600? There was a lot of talk and articles about it after it came out. Personally, I don’t know what I should notice, but I personally cleaned my sensor before and after a trip.
First I disliked the EVF, but now I’m loving it because you instantly see what you’ll get, more or less. I set exposure compensation on the lens ring and that’s a winner for me. On the other I kept my DSLR and still love to use it.
My experience matches yours. Decades of SLR use, film and digital made me learn when the exposure could be fooled, and I adjusted the compensation dial for the situation. Shooting slide film at .50 to .75 cents per frame made you learn fast or it could cost you big time. Those lesson carried over to digital. The last three years I've been shooting Fujifilm mirrorless, and I'm so spoiled by the WYSIWYG finder that exposure compensation is quick and certain, no bracketing needed. You just know you have the shot, at least technically. Fast forward to my last couple of outings with my Nikon D700 and the shock of not seeing the effect of dialing in exposure compensation was jarring. Suddenly I was "chimping" again, something that mirrorless made unnecessary. I felt like I went back in time. If I didn't have thousands of dollars in terrific Nikkors, I'd be done with DSLRS.
Great video. I am only an amateur photographer (wildlife) and someone recommended I buy a mirrorless camera. The camera I was replacing was an old Canon 400D, which I had on auto all the time! Anyhow, the mirrorless made me learn to use it properly! and I love it. I don't think I would want to go back to DSLR now.
Omar, I have both camera (Nikon Z50 and D7200). I been shooting only with my Z50 and getting to appreciate the EVF vs OVF. I always shot with auto WB, may need to start learning how to set my own WB. Really enjoyed this video.
I have two mirrorless cameras and I like them, but using my old DSLR is still just more fun to shoot with. Probably because I’m more used to it, but really - at the end of the day, isn’t all about using what makes you happy? 👍🏻
Thank you for this one, Omar! But, if a beginner starts learning photography using a mirrorless camera, it's like trying to become a Master Chef without knowing how to buy the ingredients! And yes, Nikon D780 is a formidable camera connecting both worlds and you can still use that epic f mount glass that doesn't cost the world and the weight is no issue either. Also, using a EVF is certainly not good for your eyes, in a long term it's already proven. At the end, if you have a good photo nobody will ask you which camera you shot it with 😎
One additional thing about DSLR AF is that it more often than not needs to be calibrated for the mounted lens, otherwise especially with telephoto lenses you'll have a hard time achieving critical focus.
Brilliant video! I love your detailed explanations with humour added! I enjoyed film SLRs back in the day and briefly got into DSLRs but I always thought the mirror system was a clever engineering solution to avoid having two expensive lenses on a camera, but one that brought its own problems. Of course these mirror systems became incredibly sophisticated and effective but I feel it’s like comparing internal combustion engine (ICE) driven cars with electric motor driven cars. The latter have far less moving parts, are more efficient and give better performance and need less servicing. Although ICE technology has evolved over the years to be incredibly sophisticated, ultimately it will become yesterday’s technology. The same with DSLRs - no one new to photography is going to want to learn how to overcome the difficulties of using mirrors on their cameras when mirrorless gives you so much more assistance with taking great photos. And if you’ve grown up looking at screens you will find an EVF to be a perfectly natural and effective feature of your camera.
DSLR is where the excitement is. The work you put in to get the best picture possible. A challenge by it self. At some point however, after years with a DSLR, that excitement just isn’t there anymore. You’re already very good at it. Now all you want, is just quick and sharper pictures. That’s where the mirrorless comes in.
Depends on the company too, if you're weird like me and like Pentax you're limited to DSLR's (I'm not going to go into the K-01, it's older at this point and visually was a mess, still takes decent pictures at least) or the tiny old Q's (which I love and have a collection of). I picked up a Pentax KP with 40mm and 70mm limited after selling some of my slightly older limited Pentax lenses. I have a stockpile of vintage Pentax K-mount glass that I wanted to use natively and I really liked the look and feel of the KP. I also have an Olympus E-M1 Mark II and Panasonic GX85 and generally use the same type of lenses (20/25mm and 42.5mm set of Pana primes, 40/50 and 85mm equivalent, or if I can get away with it the Pana Leica 12-60mm 2.8-4, 24-120mm equivalent, has been a great lens for me). After that it's just preference really, I love rangefinder style compact bodies and tilt screens over flippy leading to me taking the technically inferior GX85 out on walks before the much better M1.II because I have more fun with the formfactor. I'll openly admit I need to learn to love the flippy screen because unless you have the 3 way tilt fuji setup flippy is a lot better for capturing lower or high pov vertical shots.
I went back to DSLRs mainly with the D850. Not only do I keep an eye on my meter in the OVF, sometimes I would check my overall scene exposure with the Lv with the histogram engaged in the frame and then go back to my OVF to compose and give my aging eye some relief, not worry about split second lag time (refresh rate of depending on an EVF), oh and also save my battery consumption, plus the 3D tracking thru the OVF in the D850 is better than any tracking on any mirrorless I have used and owned.
Hi Omar, love your videos and your style of explaining!! I have a Fujifilm XS-10, but just how much it can do overwhelms me!! I’m still struggling to know the basics and where to start!!!This video was really insightful for me and also all your videos on the basics!! Keep up the great videos!
Fun facts, Sony actually did a smooth transition to the mirror less system, but before most people really thought of Sony as a professional system. I had the a300 and a580 which both had twin sensors so the Live view actually worked with the same focus system, and the live preview were done with mirror down. They later moved to the SLT cameras my a580 actually had a brother in the SLT58. The Sony SLT cameras had a semi translucent mirror always down, that enabled Sony to use a SLR type Phase detection focus system in continuous AF. (as the mirror did not flip away) I guess the other manufacturers didn't see these cameras as warnings signs of great innovation 😉
I'm actually surprised SLRs stuck around for as long as they have. Fixed-lens digital cameras have always been mirrorless, and I imagine Walmart customers perusing the Photo section thought it some kind of magic trick to see through the viewfinder of a switched-off Rebel.
@@ericmeekey7886 And the experience of using most fixed lens cameras is awful. The thing that held mirrorless cameras back was computing power. It's actually pretty difficult to turn the data from an image sensor into an image that gives you an accurate impression of what the picture is going to look like without an extremely obvious and annoying delay. Add onto that the difficulty of good autofocus with mirrorless cameras and you end up with laggy, frustrating to use cameras that people wouldn't be ok with paying that much for. You expect a $200 camera to be crap, you are gonna be ticked off if you pay $800 for a camera and it sucks. Even today, the evf on high end mirrorless camera is kinda crappy and low resolution. It's acceptable, but only just good enough to be a worthwhile trade off. Impossible to accurately focus with without digital zoom to assist.
@@lobsterbark Laggy and frustrating to use is not what the market thought of Sony's Handycam, and that's been around for decades. What hasn't been around until recently is consumer video capture with resolution high enough to double for stills. And with the recent hype with film, photogs are rediscovering rangefinders, or the original 'mirrorless' cameras. Interesting times.
Using a dlsr, I can manually focus on a landscape or product before turning my camera on, it greatly conserves the battery life, it does slow me down though but, that's ok for me for now as I can't do that with my mirrorless
As an old timer who has been tortured by the desire to 'move up' to Full Frame from APS-C, throwing mirrorless into the mix adds another level of chaos into the decision. Thank you for further muddying the waters 🙂 Nice video. Thank you
Great video as always 👍🏼. I’ve introduced like 6 of my family and friends on to your channel. But with this one I drove 5 blocks to my uncles house to see his reaction to the film part 😂 I did the same when I first showed him my XT-3 I bought, since he’s a still a big film aficionado. But he finally graduated to a XT-3, I gave him mine when I got the XT-4. OGP bringing the comedy to otherwise boring camera reviews 👍🏼
A very good explanation concerning the difference between a DSLR vs MIRRORLESS camera more specifically with their own Viewfinder Optical vs Electronic Viewfinder .. I'm impressed ..Thanks for sharing keep up the good work 👏👍🏼
You left out one big difference between the two cameras. With a dslr you have to consider the delay of the mirror when photographing action. After 50 years of photographing with slr it was automatic for me to account for the delay of the mirror. But with a mirrorless camera there is no delay. So you take the photo when your subject is where you want them. An example of someone using a mirrorless camera and they still take into account the mirror delay even though there is no mirror was when you tried to take a picture of a cyclist (I think) and took the picture way too soon. This was in one of your motorcycle video’s recently. So with mirrorless you take the picture pretty much when the subject is where you want them. When I finally realized this my action photos looked great and made me look like a pro.
I shoot Fuji, Pentax and film. I want all three systems! For slow, considered photography it has to be my Pentax K1 or Bronica SQ-A. I find the optical view finder much more pleasant to use, and if using manual flash, much easier. I also find the DSLR easier to use for close, semi-macro photography. For travel photography I prefer one of my many small film SLRs. For everything else I usually grab either my X-T1 or X-E3.
Thanks Omar, May I just say that the MIGHTY olympus has a software where it actually shows you how your long exposure shot is looking live for waterfalsl etc. Not sure if other manufacturers will have this feature though.
Good one Omar. Solid explanation of the differences. I was one of those that was put off by the early EVF - the lag and the slow refresh rate, but maaan! Have they improved👍🏼👍🏼
I got a good deal on my dream camera 2.7k for a brand new body 5D mark IV and brand new 24-70mm f4 lens . Which is the price of the body alone on canon . I love it coming from a 7D . I tried a eos R . The EVF was a bit on the headache side for me . Maybe when my business is a bit more up and consistent I'll look at some new tech stuff. But the client never really knows what you're shooting with . They just know they're getting great images . People still shoot film ! It's whatever floats ya boat . Love my shutter sounds and ovf I don't do much video as of now so even if that changes by then newer tech will be placed in those cameras like the R3.
Nikon is the only system where you keep your lenses from film to DSLR to mirrorless so I'm sticking with them. I am however quite hesitant to jump on mirrorless for anything other than shooting video
Very helpful breakdown. Especially coming from a film background where I don't plan to change the lighting much as I go. I always feel very frustrated (granted my Nikon D3200 is very rudimentary) with how combersum it is to change settings while trying to film since you have to be in LIV mode to film so you have to constantly be changing back and forth...or at least I've never figured out a seamless way to do it.
Great video. I would prefer mirrorless as it provides a much smaller monitor (electronic view finder ) compared to th 3 inch monitor on DSLRs that gulps battery like anything. The optical view finder does not show what happens with the settings you change as you said. I wonder why focus points and low light performance improves with mirrorless when that only has to do with the electronics and not the mirror. A bit confused here.
I had a 3-week period before I was comfortable enough with the XT-3 to use it. I came from a Nikon D-810. The EVF blew me away! Now a DSLR seems like a dinosaur...lol
Just got an R10, upgrading from a T5i and for some reason I feel like my old DSLR had much better quality/detail. The R10 is by far better at focusing and it's packed with some newer features, but I seriously feel like it lacks. I don't know if I just need to tweak it a bit more. The more experienced photographers please drop in your experience/knowledge
Great video and very informative for a rookie to photography who doesn't have any experience with mirrorless. Appreciate the good mix of beginner to advance info in the video. BTW Cool Seiko on the wrist too. Sorry I'm a bit of a watch nerd, couldn't help but notice.
Omar, I absolutely love your channel and genuinely enjoy watching your content. Your vids actually help me decide to go with the X-T2. I will be in New Jersey ( near The Heights) and (mostly) in New York City this December, any must visit places you can suggest for me to visit and take pictures? (other than the tourist places)
Always a good video. I remember when I first saw a video from you, you had hulk figure and where testing focus on a Fujifilm I subscribed right away I shoot DSLR cause I can't afford mirrorless lol oh well.. Thanks
My question is, what effects does an EVF have on one's eyes? You can't tell me, that putting your eye a centimeter or two away from a little screen doesn't cause issues
I am going oposite direction. I always prefered EVF, but after so many years of looking at the computer screen for 12 hours a day I started to dislike looking at another small screen while doing my hobby in a free time. So recently I bought a 5d mk2 and I like it :-) However I am missing AF experience and small form factor of my X-T30, so it is still my prefered camera and DSLR is just for fun :-)
My 750 is just more responsive than my Z6ii ... and it focuses in low light better. Z6 has some added features (focus points all across the frame for instance) but I don't really need those. Seeing your exposure beforehand is less useful than advertised. First of all, I'm almost never shooting for an OOC result, I'm shooting for the editorial process. Usually to preserve highlights - so I have to put up with composing with a darkened frame or switch to "settings do not apply". But then you invariably have bad color and in all cases you have to look at blown highlights ... at that point I just miss the natural light view of a DSLR. I miss the excitement of the natural light. I feel like I have been sold a bill of goods frankly . Everyone began screaming "mirrorless is the future" and we thru out the baby with the bathwater ...
@@donzokor5312 ... I spent a few hours today at the LCS and maybe you are right, but the truth is if you want to view blown highlights most of the time while shooting ... then go mirrorless ... if you want to see the actual light - you know - the thing that got you motivated to make the shot in the first place? ... stick with dslr ... and no ... an evf does not show you what you are going to get ... that would somehow presume including your whole post process ... which is absurd ... now if I want to protect highlights I have a choice of a too dim evf, or an evf decoupled from all sense of reality, especially color balance.
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Respect, Omar. One of the most lucid and least partisan and most practice-based explanations of the mirrorless vs. DSLR experience I've come across. It still beats me why so few people can accept that ultimately it's all a matter of preference and that there's no need whatsoever to turn it into some kind of religious war. There's a place in photography for both. Heck, some people are still shooting rangefinders and/or film cameras and having a blast with them!
Amen
Thank you for explaining the 18% grey rule for DSLRs. I was not aware of that before.
If photography doesn't work for you anymore, you can always become a teacher. Great video!
I went back to my D750 to wipe off the dust. I will say I still prefer the picture quality of the D750 vs my XT2. So much easier to use and the switches and dials are so much more accessible and easier to use. I still use my Fujifilm X-T2 for travel. Overall my D750 is still a great camera and the pictures turn out amazing. Less post work than with my X-T2.
"Less post work than with my X-T2." That alone is reason enough to use any camera, agreed.
@@thenexthobby it’s true. At least for me it is. When covid hit I went through most of my catalog and lots of un edited photos. Off the bat I noticed how clean and crisp the photos are. Colors look more natural, not just with from my D750 but former Nikon bodies like the D3100 and D7100. However, I do enjoy some of Fujifilm’s film simulations and also is what I use on my Europe trips due to its compact size.
If you love the D750's imaging so much, you may want to take a look at the Nikon Z5, it is believed to be the same sensor as the D750. The Z6ii also has amazing imaging, and has a few very important features that the Z5 doesn't have, but if you're just looking for a Full Frame inexpensive high quality camera, the Z5 is an amazing option. It went on sale last year for about $500 off in the early spring. Maybe keep an eye out for that?
oh this is so good to hear. i switched from D750 to an X-T3 (and x100f for travel and street), but i was never entirely satisfied with what i got out of the fuji and felt it took longer to get the desired look during post.
D750 is the FF camera. XT 2 can't compete with it. mirrorless doesn't do anything with image quality
One scene I edited out pointed to two cameras that try to marry both experiences. The Nikon D780 is a DSLR that has the mirrorless experience of the Nikon Z series on the screen. AND...the Fujifilm X100 and XPro series are mirrorless cameras that have optical viewfinders. Yay.
I purchased D780 to keep alongside my Z7 and Z5. It gives real good mirrorless features for portraits with great performance of using f lenses natively rather than adapting and still having the dslr feel!
I came down to mention the hybrid model the X100's and XPro's use. I really love being able to toggle between them. If I'm outside and my exposure is pretty consistent, I love shooting through the OVF. But once the lighting becomes challenging or varied from moment to moment, the EVF makes things easier. I'm kind of amazed no one released a DSLR with a pop-up EVF embedded in the OVF. I like using a finder over the back screen and I would have loved having the flexibility to swap based on the situation.
I don’t care, but maybe you do… misspelling on thumbnail 🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️ wut ya gonna do 🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️ I shoot mirro-less 😎
Photography is an art as we all know, if you gave me the best guitar in the world i still couldn't play it, so matter how cutting edge the camera is, it's down to the flesh hanging off the back of it!
BINGO, I don't think a lot of people realize this with price range of cameras. Seems many are under the impression if they spend 4 grand on a camera body and 3 grand on a lens they are magically going to get great pictures.
On the other hand you can be the best guitarist in the world but you won't be able to to play as fast and as accurate on a cheap guitar.
@@muzlee7479 Good point, but they would definitely play better than me 😉
I choose the right way I think... I have mirrorless cameras and I kept all my pro DSLR ! That's the way it is. Thanks for your time Omar. Always a pleasure.
Omar is my RUclips Jim Carrey 😂😂😂😂love u man 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
ahah needed this to pop up in my feeds today! today, I receive my first mirrorless. ironically, in today's facebook memories, it brought up that exactly 10 years ago I received my first dslr. it's about time for an upgrade!!
Blown exposure was never a problem for me. Shooting with the same camera for a few years, I got used to knowing what the exposure would be based on how I metered the scene. But occasionally I'd be pleasantly surprised with something really spectacular, especially shooting landscapes. Having moved to mirrorless, I think I miss those little surprises the most. I now feel more like I'm documenting a scene than creating, and I've started thinking of picking up a DSLR again...
Little surprises. Well said.
Well explained Omar. I use both switching between full frame DSLR and APS-C mirrorless. Visually I still prefer looking through a DSLR pentaprism for the clarity and way I can access a scene with my eye and not an EVF giving an electronic interpretation. Maybe that’s because I’ve been shooting SLR/DSLR for 30 yrs since I was a kid and mirrorless only 5 yrs.
Somebody newer to photography only shooting mirrorless might struggle a bit going to a DSLR because - dare I say it - you have be more experienced at accessing the light in a scene with a DSLR and mirrorless makes you a bit lazy to access there scene (not denigrating mirrorless uses there)
Oh and a big wide pentaprism view is like standing on the balcony looking out over the beautiful view rather than sitting watching TV of the scene. Where would you rather be?!
Your humor goes great with your wisdom. This is helpful, thank you!
I just learned about the gray card - white balance technique and it’s so helpful! Love the video
Ha! nice timing. I just rented a DSLR because I am feeling nostalgic :) I really really enjoy OVF's... But mirrorless get the job done quicker for sure. You forgot to mention that you can still preview your exposure on a DSLR by turning Liveview on :) A little slower workflow than EVF's but it's just one more button to push.
What happened to your 5D1? 🙂 And I talked about live view when I showed the loupe. How dare you??
@@ogonzilla Haha. My 5D is long gone... I miss it.
Nice Omar,
I went from suing a Nikon D700 professionally for weddings which I retired from. To now using a Fuji X-T3 and a Fuji X-T20 for general photography. The greatest adjustment I had to make is that mirror-less (at least the ones i now use) have a slight delay from what you see in the viewfinder when taking a shot. The DSLR is snappier in that regard. Other than that the mirror-less is a much better shooting experience for me. Picture quality is the same but losing that bulkiness and weight was a big one for me.
Doesn't full frame d750 or d780 give bigger raw data than fujis x mount apsc sensors?
Just as we transitioned from analog to digital we’re now experiencing the transition from SLRs to mirrorless. I personally shoot mirrorless and I don’t see me ever going back to DSLRs. Once you get comfortable and acknowledge the benefits of it it’s a no brainer.
I don’t miss anything from DSLR times. That’s over. As simple as that. People should stop being nostalgic.
@@Stefan1968ful People HAVE stopped being nostalgic. You can't get DSLRs in Europe or Asia most of the time without backordering, because they're all in USA. Only Americans seem to not have caught the memo that DSLRs are dead. Was there a superbowl commercial or something?
Great video, Omar - especially for the newbies trying to decide. I love all my Fuji mirrorless cameras for many reasons but to me, there is a deep satisfaction of the “clappety klunk” slap of the DSLR obliging me to say that they will have to pry my d750 out of my cold, dead hand!
While I agree with the points you raised. You missed one very important feature set "ergonomics". Ergonomics are much better on the DSLR.
I went from DSLR to a Z6 and a few lenses when it all first came out and within a year I sold the lot and repurchased D500 / D850 / D4.
The D4 trounces the lot in terms of handling and viewfinder experience. Maybe the Z9 is different, but to be honest I've zoned out.
To much marketing waffle from all manufacturers these days.
The camera system technically has nothing to do with ergonomics. It's subjective too, so no point in mentioning it
"this is a camera, this has a camera". I loved this.
Excellent way to compare both of them. Like the way you work. Thanks for sharing
Thanks Omar. The transition to mirrorless (for me) has been a tough one, having shot a DSLR for years. I’m getting there though and can definitely see the benefits of mirrorless. Still happily shooting both for the time being. 👍
Omar, I absolutely love your personality! What an amazing, informative and entertaining video.
I'm three minutes into your video and I am loving it. You make learning fun and easy to understand. Thank you!
-Cal
Great video Omar, a good comparison. It all comes down to choice really, so many choices today in camera type, sensor size etc. You have to pick which works best for you. I still use DSLRs as I prefer the optical viewfinder over the EVF. I do own Leicas a M240 and M10P as well as a Nikon Z5 and an Olympus Pen -F digital. When i need mirrorless Leicas are always my first choice due to their size and are full frame. I find Mirrorless cameras from the other manufactures to be much larger especially the lenses in fact no real difference from DSLR full frame lenses. I only use the Z5 for casual photography and as a second or third body when I am out photographing the odd assignment or wildlife and nature, I can stuff it in my gear bag or my vest. My advice is pick what's best for you and concentrate more on mastering lighting and good composition.
Fun video. Thanks for creating it. As a Fuji shooter you should also mentioned about X-pro and X-100 series which has hybrid viewfinder. For the waterfall Olympus has a simulation build-in to show you how sleek will be the water (ND simulation effect before you take a picture).
For me the hard part is to see thru EVF and judge the lighting of the scene. Because it a monitor and it is a back-lit. The workaround is to change brightness of EVF to minus 3. But that is what I miss from dSLR.
I spent the first minute of this video mocking your entry lmao . i had to rewind and rewatch without being distracted by the voice in my head also mocking you 🤣🤣🤣
Great vid, Omar. Personally, I found that even though I’ve moved to mirrorless, I miss how much easier, at least for me, that the DSLR was, namely the Canon 5D Mark III. For me, the EOS R and the R5 are better, but much more complicated, especially with all the options given. Fv mode though, as I see it, is groundbreaking. I see mirrorless as being better only for more keepers, but great photos can be had by most cameras out there, even Rebel series or similar if you know what you’re doing
You are so right! Took my best photos with the Rebel T3i. Sometimes going out with the DSLR feels so refreshing
Thanks for your great videos. After 7 years with my Olympus OM-D I just found out I can switch the EVF to "what you see is what you get". I wondered why it always showed me perfect exposure. Now it shows me how the photo will look like. Actually I like both.
Always a pleasure to watch your videos Omar. Greetings from Singapore!
This was brilliant, you dropped knowledge bombs off the cuff like it was nothing. Awesome stuff
Thank you for the deep explanation and details, great video!
My what lovely Cameras you have!!
I didn’t really feel my transition it felt totally natural for me to move over to mirrorless. Made me understand metering etc more as I could see what I was doing whilst changing settings. Photography just suddenly “clicked” for me ha ha. 😂. That’s surely a worthy Omar pun I just did there. X
Such good points and comparisons for both DSLR and Mirrorless... Such a great channel. Thanks again.
Omar, one critical (subjective) technical information about the sensor difference. I believe most of the dslr’s, especially the old ones, have front lit sensors, while the new ones are all back lit.
On another topic, have you seen oil and dust issue on your d600? There was a lot of talk and articles about it after it came out. Personally, I don’t know what I should notice, but I personally cleaned my sensor before and after a trip.
First I disliked the EVF, but now I’m loving it because you instantly see what you’ll get, more or less. I set exposure compensation on the lens ring and that’s a winner for me. On the other I kept my DSLR and still love to use it.
My experience matches yours. Decades of SLR use, film and digital made me learn when the exposure could be fooled, and I adjusted the compensation dial for the situation. Shooting slide film at .50 to .75 cents per frame made you learn fast or it could cost you big time. Those lesson carried over to digital.
The last three years I've been shooting Fujifilm mirrorless, and I'm so spoiled by the WYSIWYG finder that exposure compensation is quick and certain, no bracketing needed. You just know you have the shot, at least technically.
Fast forward to my last couple of outings with my Nikon D700 and the shock of not seeing the effect of dialing in exposure compensation was jarring. Suddenly I was "chimping" again, something that mirrorless made unnecessary. I felt like I went back in time. If I didn't have thousands of dollars in terrific Nikkors, I'd be done with DSLRS.
Love the review, Mate! Great sense of humor! 👍
I liked your sense of humour. This has a camera vs this is a camera 😂 So true!
Great video. I am only an amateur photographer (wildlife) and someone recommended I buy a mirrorless camera. The camera I was replacing was an old Canon 400D, which I had on auto all the time! Anyhow, the mirrorless made me learn to use it properly! and I love it. I don't think I would want to go back to DSLR now.
Love this video. THANK YOU.
I’m a hobby photographer from Germany. I’m using the great Nikon Z6II. Mostly with the Z24-70/2.8S.
Omar, I have both camera (Nikon Z50 and D7200). I been shooting only with my Z50 and getting to appreciate the EVF vs OVF. I always shot with auto WB, may need to start learning how to set my own WB. Really enjoyed this video.
I have two mirrorless cameras and I like them, but using my old DSLR is still just more fun to shoot with. Probably because I’m more used to it, but really - at the end of the day, isn’t all about using what makes you happy? 👍🏻
Thank you for this one, Omar! But, if a beginner starts learning photography using a mirrorless camera, it's like trying to become a Master Chef without knowing how to buy the ingredients! And yes, Nikon D780 is a formidable camera connecting both worlds and you can still use that epic f mount glass that doesn't cost the world and the weight is no issue either. Also, using a EVF is certainly not good for your eyes, in a long term it's already proven. At the end, if you have a good photo nobody will ask you which camera you shot it with 😎
Excellent video Omer, it's really outstanding explanation.
One additional thing about DSLR AF is that it more often than not needs to be calibrated for the mounted lens, otherwise especially with telephoto lenses you'll have a hard time achieving critical focus.
Brilliant video! I love your detailed explanations with humour added! I enjoyed film SLRs back in the day and briefly got into DSLRs but I always thought the mirror system was a clever engineering solution to avoid having two expensive lenses on a camera, but one that brought its own problems. Of course these mirror systems became incredibly sophisticated and effective but I feel it’s like comparing internal combustion engine (ICE) driven cars with electric motor driven cars. The latter have far less moving parts, are more efficient and give better performance and need less servicing. Although ICE technology has evolved over the years to be incredibly sophisticated, ultimately it will become yesterday’s technology. The same with DSLRs - no one new to photography is going to want to learn how to overcome the difficulties of using mirrors on their cameras when mirrorless gives you so much more assistance with taking great photos. And if you’ve grown up looking at screens you will find an EVF to be a perfectly natural and effective feature of your camera.
Very useful explanation of the differences between these two types of digital system cameras.
Packed with information and excellent structure.
DSLR is where the excitement is. The work you put in to get the best picture possible. A challenge by it self.
At some point however, after years with a DSLR, that excitement just isn’t there anymore. You’re already very good at it. Now all you want, is just quick and sharper pictures. That’s where the mirrorless comes in.
Great review and comparison 👍.
You really helped me on choosing.
Thanks .
Depends on the company too, if you're weird like me and like Pentax you're limited to DSLR's (I'm not going to go into the K-01, it's older at this point and visually was a mess, still takes decent pictures at least) or the tiny old Q's (which I love and have a collection of). I picked up a Pentax KP with 40mm and 70mm limited after selling some of my slightly older limited Pentax lenses. I have a stockpile of vintage Pentax K-mount glass that I wanted to use natively and I really liked the look and feel of the KP. I also have an Olympus E-M1 Mark II and Panasonic GX85 and generally use the same type of lenses (20/25mm and 42.5mm set of Pana primes, 40/50 and 85mm equivalent, or if I can get away with it the Pana Leica 12-60mm 2.8-4, 24-120mm equivalent, has been a great lens for me).
After that it's just preference really, I love rangefinder style compact bodies and tilt screens over flippy leading to me taking the technically inferior GX85 out on walks before the much better M1.II because I have more fun with the formfactor. I'll openly admit I need to learn to love the flippy screen because unless you have the 3 way tilt fuji setup flippy is a lot better for capturing lower or high pov vertical shots.
I went back to DSLRs mainly with the D850. Not only do I keep an eye on my meter in the OVF, sometimes I would check my overall scene exposure with the Lv with the histogram engaged in the frame and then go back to my OVF to compose and give my aging eye some relief, not worry about split second lag time (refresh rate of depending on an EVF), oh and also save my battery consumption, plus the 3D tracking thru the OVF in the D850 is better than any tracking on any mirrorless I have used and owned.
Beautiful explanation .. its different and exact the thing which i wanted to know ..
Hi Omar, love your videos and your style of explaining!! I have a Fujifilm XS-10, but just how much it can do overwhelms me!! I’m still struggling to know the basics and where to start!!!This video was really insightful for me and also all your videos on the basics!! Keep up the great videos!
Have to say... Omar is very Jim Carrey-ish.... well done!
Fun facts, Sony actually did a smooth transition to the mirror less system, but before most people really thought of Sony as a professional system.
I had the a300 and a580 which both had twin sensors so the Live view actually worked with the same focus system, and the live preview were done with mirror down.
They later moved to the SLT cameras my a580 actually had a brother in the SLT58.
The Sony SLT cameras had a semi translucent mirror always down, that enabled Sony to use a SLR type Phase detection focus system in continuous AF. (as the mirror did not flip away)
I guess the other manufacturers didn't see these cameras as warnings signs of great innovation 😉
I'm actually surprised SLRs stuck around for as long as they have. Fixed-lens digital cameras have always been mirrorless, and I imagine Walmart customers perusing the Photo section thought it some kind of magic trick to see through the viewfinder of a switched-off Rebel.
@@ericmeekey7886 And the experience of using most fixed lens cameras is awful. The thing that held mirrorless cameras back was computing power. It's actually pretty difficult to turn the data from an image sensor into an image that gives you an accurate impression of what the picture is going to look like without an extremely obvious and annoying delay. Add onto that the difficulty of good autofocus with mirrorless cameras and you end up with laggy, frustrating to use cameras that people wouldn't be ok with paying that much for. You expect a $200 camera to be crap, you are gonna be ticked off if you pay $800 for a camera and it sucks.
Even today, the evf on high end mirrorless camera is kinda crappy and low resolution. It's acceptable, but only just good enough to be a worthwhile trade off. Impossible to accurately focus with without digital zoom to assist.
@@lobsterbark Laggy and frustrating to use is not what the market thought of Sony's Handycam, and that's been around for decades. What hasn't been around until recently is consumer video capture with resolution high enough to double for stills. And with the recent hype with film, photogs are rediscovering rangefinders, or the original 'mirrorless' cameras. Interesting times.
Using a dlsr, I can manually focus on a landscape or product before turning my camera on, it greatly conserves the battery life, it does slow me down though but, that's ok for me for now as I can't do that with my mirrorless
As an old timer who has been tortured by the desire to 'move up' to Full Frame from APS-C, throwing mirrorless into the mix adds another level of chaos into the decision. Thank you for further muddying the waters 🙂 Nice video. Thank you
Don't ever stop making videos, you must find the fountain of youth! ASAP!
Great video as always 👍🏼. I’ve introduced like 6 of my family and friends on to your channel. But with this one I drove 5 blocks to my uncles house to see his reaction to the film part 😂 I did the same when I first showed him my XT-3 I bought, since he’s a still a big film aficionado. But he finally graduated to a XT-3, I gave him mine when I got the XT-4. OGP bringing the comedy to otherwise boring camera reviews 👍🏼
A very good explanation concerning the difference between a DSLR vs MIRRORLESS camera more specifically with their own Viewfinder Optical vs Electronic Viewfinder .. I'm impressed ..Thanks for sharing keep up the good work 👏👍🏼
You left out one big difference between the two cameras. With a dslr you have to consider the delay of the mirror when photographing action. After 50 years of photographing with slr it was automatic for me to account for the delay of the mirror. But with a mirrorless camera there is no delay. So you take the photo when your subject is where you want them.
An example of someone using a mirrorless camera and they still take into account the mirror delay even though there is no mirror was when you tried to take a picture of a cyclist (I think) and took the picture way too soon. This was in one of your motorcycle video’s recently.
So with mirrorless you take the picture pretty much when the subject is where you want them.
When I finally realized this my action photos looked great and made me look like a pro.
This was super helpful!!! Are the lenses interchangeable between the two different cameras?
Best detailed video.. thanks,👍
I shoot Fuji, Pentax and film. I want all three systems! For slow, considered photography it has to be my Pentax K1 or Bronica SQ-A. I find the optical view finder much more pleasant to use, and if using manual flash, much easier. I also find the DSLR easier to use for close, semi-macro photography. For travel photography I prefer one of my many small film SLRs. For everything else I usually grab either my X-T1 or X-E3.
I prefer a OVF especially after spending all day in front of screens
1:04 so what is the Galaxy S4 Zoom?
Thanks Omar, May I just say that the MIGHTY olympus has a software where it actually shows you how your long exposure shot is looking live for waterfalsl etc. Not sure if other manufacturers will have this feature though.
Good one Omar. Solid explanation of the differences. I was one of those that was put off by the early EVF - the lag and the slow refresh rate, but maaan! Have they improved👍🏼👍🏼
I got a good deal on my dream camera 2.7k for a brand new body 5D mark IV and brand new 24-70mm f4 lens . Which is the price of the body alone on canon . I love it coming from a 7D . I tried a eos R . The EVF was a bit on the headache side for me . Maybe when my business is a bit more up and consistent I'll look at some new tech stuff. But the client never really knows what you're shooting with . They just know they're getting great images . People still shoot film ! It's whatever floats ya boat . Love my shutter sounds and ovf I don't do much video as of now so even if that changes by then newer tech will be placed in those cameras like the R3.
Excellent video 😮!
lol best video ive seen yet man, love your personality!! I'm still lost which I should buy for my studio though hahaha
For a beginner, what do you recommend? A D850 or a Z5 or a Z50? First camera, but in love it with photography!
I love the sound effects you make. LOL
Nikon is the only system where you keep your lenses from film to DSLR to mirrorless so I'm sticking with them. I am however quite hesitant to jump on mirrorless for anything other than shooting video
Do you know about Canon's EF lenses?
Umm great mount 😂👍 cuz they didn't change it since 1987, so they have that advantage with mirrorless
1:41 how you did for the pictures to come same xolor like DSLR picture. What you did? Can somebody tell me?
@omar It is helped me. I love Nikon Color science.
Very helpful breakdown. Especially coming from a film background where I don't plan to change the lighting much as I go. I always feel very frustrated (granted my Nikon D3200 is very rudimentary) with how combersum it is to change settings while trying to film since you have to be in LIV mode to film so you have to constantly be changing back and forth...or at least I've never figured out a seamless way to do it.
hi co-nikon d3200 user ^_^
Great video. I would prefer mirrorless as it provides a much smaller monitor (electronic view finder ) compared to th 3 inch monitor on DSLRs that gulps battery like anything. The optical view finder does not show what happens with the settings you change as you said. I wonder why focus points and low light performance improves with mirrorless when that only has to do with the electronics and not the mirror. A bit confused here.
Hey man, as always great video. Where are those train tracks? I want a picture there too.
I had a 3-week period before I was comfortable enough with the XT-3 to use it. I came from a Nikon D-810. The EVF blew me away! Now a DSLR seems like a dinosaur...lol
Pretty cool video. Thanks for your work!
How about the Fujifilm XPro series? U can get both an evf and ovf experience 😀
Just got an R10, upgrading from a T5i and for some reason I feel like my old DSLR had much better quality/detail. The R10 is by far better at focusing and it's packed with some newer features, but I seriously feel like it lacks. I don't know if I just need to tweak it a bit more. The more experienced photographers please drop in your experience/knowledge
Great video and very informative for a rookie to photography who doesn't have any experience with mirrorless. Appreciate the good mix of beginner to advance info in the video. BTW Cool Seiko on the wrist too. Sorry I'm a bit of a watch nerd, couldn't help but notice.
LOVE those awkward endings! lol
This is masterful. Thank you.
Omar,
I absolutely love your channel and genuinely enjoy watching your content. Your vids actually help me decide to go with the X-T2. I will be in New Jersey ( near The Heights) and (mostly) in New York City this December, any must visit places you can suggest for me to visit and take pictures? (other than the tourist places)
Always a good video. I remember when I first saw a video from you, you had hulk figure and where testing focus on a Fujifilm I subscribed right away I shoot DSLR cause I can't afford mirrorless lol oh well..
Thanks
My question is, what effects does an EVF have on one's eyes? You can't tell me, that putting your eye a centimeter or two away from a little screen doesn't cause issues
Another great, informative, and funny video. Personally, I went straight from film cameras to mirrorless cameras and skipped DSLRs altogether.
continuing with my D750😅,great video...enjoyed.
I am going oposite direction. I always prefered EVF, but after so many years of looking at the computer screen for 12 hours a day I started to dislike looking at another small screen while doing my hobby in a free time. So recently I bought a 5d mk2 and I like it :-) However I am missing AF experience and small form factor of my X-T30, so it is still my prefered camera and DSLR is just for fun :-)
Hi, QQ: Do you have a grip attached to you Z-camera(s)? I find the grip of the Z6 and 7 bodies too small.
Thank You for the Information
Good Job Vlogging it
You are the funniest guy on RUclips.
My 750 is just more responsive than my Z6ii ... and it focuses in low light better. Z6 has some added features (focus points all across the frame for instance) but I don't really need those. Seeing your exposure beforehand is less useful than advertised. First of all, I'm almost never shooting for an OOC result, I'm shooting for the editorial process. Usually to preserve highlights - so I have to put up with composing with a darkened frame or switch to "settings do not apply". But then you invariably have bad color and in all cases you have to look at blown highlights ... at that point I just miss the natural light view of a DSLR. I miss the excitement of the natural light.
I feel like I have been sold a bill of goods frankly . Everyone began screaming "mirrorless is the future" and we thru out the baby with the bathwater ...
Nikon mirrorless is still way behind
@@donzokor5312 ... I spent a few hours today at the LCS and maybe you are right, but the truth is if you want to view blown highlights most of the time while shooting ... then go mirrorless ... if you want to see the actual light - you know - the thing that got you motivated to make the shot in the first place? ... stick with dslr ... and no ... an evf does not show you what you are going to get ... that would somehow presume including your whole post process ... which is absurd ... now if I want to protect highlights I have a choice of a too dim evf, or an evf decoupled from all sense of reality, especially color balance.
lets not even talk about adding flash to mirrorless ... its a bad dream ...
I shoot with a dslr and a mirrorless. Mirrorless has more perks but when you print or export pics from both. They look identical.
Great Video. Thank you.