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Intercooler Upgrade and Turbo Upgrade - [ Can You Run An Intercooler Without A Turbo ]
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- Опубликовано: 7 авг 2024
- An intercooler upgrade and turbo upgrade can make a huge difference to the performance of a turbo diesel engine.
Matt explains how you can run an intercooler without a turbo upgrade, particularly if you are towing a caravan.
Just the intercooler upgrade will help with dispersing heat, and giving you more of a constant power range while in the hills, without loosing power when you need it the most.
A turbo upgrade will provide extra power into your engine, but it will also increase your Exhaust Gas Temperature ( EGT ) so there for that increased heat needs to be managed. Thats where a larger intercooler will help with managing the extra EGT heat.
Turbo diesel engines love cold air running through them, so the larger intercooler will help you to keep cold air running through your turbo, and keeping the power going when you need it.
The ZD30 engine in my Nissan Patrol has both a intercooler upgrade and turbo upgrade, and the difference it makes is amazing.
Diesel Tune Australia website for more information.
www.dieseltuneaustralia.com.au
First words to come out of your mouth and im all ears, great job getting to the point
Thanks mate.
Cheers Tim
Awesome video. Thanks Tim. Answered lots of questions I had.
Gday Steve,
That’s great mate.
It was an interesting video.
Thanks for your feedback.
Cheers Tim.
Great info and very well presented.
Gday Craig,
Thanks mate.
I greatly appreciate your feedback.
Cheers Tim
Thanks for all the info boys this helps allot best video
An excellent explanation that even a novice could understand. Bloody good job mate. 👍🍺
Thanks mate.
Glad you found the video helpful.
Thanks for your reply mate.
Cheers Tim.
These are great vids, you let them speak and that's perfect. Awesome.
Thanks mate.
Matt did a top job with this video.
Thanks a lot for your feedback and reply.
Cheers Tim.
All good, so many others keep interrupting there guests. This is good stuff.
Awesome video mate I really appreciate it.
G'day Shannon,
Thanks mate.
I found it very interesting as well.
Thanks for your reply mate.
Cheers Tim.
Great vid mate gees it really is a science working out how the best way to provide power
Thanks mate.
It can be like that.
Matt is great to chat with on the topic of turbo charges and intercoolers.
Very interesting.
Thanks mate for your feedback.
Cheers Tim.
Getting mine done with the "Tim Bates" kit out mid April. Can't wait
Wicked mate.
You'll fair dinkum love it.
Let me know how you go mate when you get it done.
Thanks for your reply mate.
Cheers Tim.
@@timbates4wdadventures Yeah no worries at all. Just finished my 12v/240v set up and hooked up a fridge, just have the lights to do and engine and she will be fit for the high country.
Nice one Tim.....I’m slowly learning
Thanks mate.
Thats great if you found the info helpful.
Cheers Tim.
It’s all helpful my friend and entertaining. You have a great channel Tim!
@@The_Stoic_PhilosopherAU Thanks mate, i greatly appreciate your feedback.
Cheers Tim.
Mateeeeee, I have not got a 4x4 , but..I love watching your videos ..Remember , this when you trout fishing again and use bait wash your hand first .. Take care Mate
G'day Kevin,
Thanks mate, i greatly appreciate your reply and feedback.
I'll keep that fishing tip in mind.
Cheers Tim.
Thanks Matt and Tim - love these techie shows mate!
Matt, your explanation of moving heat makes a lot of sense and the application of this idea to turbo upgrades and just inter-cooler upgrades. What about spraying water on the factory inter-cooler under those load conditions - going up a long hill pulling a camper/caravan?
Thanks mate.
I greatly appreciate your feedback.
Matt will go through the replies tomorrow.
Thanks again.
Cheers Tim.
Hi Benny, anything you can do to control heat will be helpful and water sprays do work. The problem with the standard ZD30 intercooler is that even on a flat bit of road they get hot, most other front mounted intercoolers like fitted to Ranger, Colorado, Dmax, Prado, etc will deal with normal loads until the going gets tough.
@@mattjackson4541 Thanks Matt and Thanks Tim.
Bloody top video Tim, The gu patrols mainly zd30 is not known for it's power. Mine struggles with power.
Gday Adam,
Thanks mate. It sure was interesting filming this one.
Yeah the ZD30 in it’s standard format is a bit light on for power.
A few mods can make a big difference.
Thanks mate for your reply.
Cheers Tim.
@@timbates4wdadventures Yeah Tim not much fun getting overtaken by a school bus going up hill i can tell you. I had everything checked out about 2 years ago but all came back as a ok, Time to start some basic mods to allow a bit more power while keeping it 100% safe.
Changing out the standard intercooler i thought na not needed, but this video has convinced me otherwise.
@@adamjones2025 that’s it mate. A few upgrades as you go.
Have a chat with Matt if you want any further info mate.
I agree wholeheartedly with the content but as the guy said, he’d consider the the upgrade mandatory. But there’s heaps of stuff that we say should be mandatory (upgrades), snorkel, tyres, suspension, diff breathers, secondary oil & fuel filters....etc the list goes on.
Not knocking the video, it was good 👍
Gday mate,
I agree about the extra things you listed.
But this video is purely about intercoolers and turbos.
Thanks mate.
Cheers Tim.
Hi David, love your show too! I'm my opinion, an intercooler upgrade is mandatory if you are towing, its also valuable when doing low speed, high load off roading.
@@mattjackson4541 absolutely agree 👍
Great video. I've got a zd30 automatic that I'll be booking in at DTA dandy in the next month or two for a tune, intercooler and turbo. Really struggles up those long hills in the highcounty. Hopefully this setup sorts it out!
G'day Brandon,
Mate, it made a massive difference to my Patrol.
Overtaking on the road now is a breeze.
You'll be happy with the upgrades mate.
Thanks for your reply.
Cheers Tim.
Hi Brandon I'm getting mine done too. You'll have to book around 2 months in advance at the moment.
@@Toyota_Memes hey thanks for letting me know. I've got to sort out a few mods before I take it down to them. But looks like they do a good job.
@@brandonbeattie1036 Yeah no worries at all. It's a bloody addictive thing the old patrol. There's always more you can do iv'e found. By the time you finish 1 mod you think of another 2 to do lol
That was spot on Batesy, I understood all of it. I'm pretty happy with the turbo I have but never really thought about the intercooler when up the hills. Any ball point figure on the intercooler cost and install mate?.
G'day mate,
The intercooler sure comes in handy for getting rid of heat on the hills or towing a van.
Costings would vary a bit i reckon on different models.
Matt would be the one to have a good chat to on that mate.
Thanks heaps for your feedback.
Cheers Tim.
Prices are all over the place depending on what car / model .
Hi Tim I have 2013 gu zd30 it’s struggles with power could u tell me we’re they are plz
Where's the nearest workshop near Mackay.....?
Can you install intercooler in non turbo car and is adding more power in the car or just nothink
Hi Tim.
I've seen in a few vids you talk about your diff gears being lowered for low range low speed, do you have any vids where you go into detail and where you had it done? Also with the rear diff lockers, did you get that done at the same time?
Hope that makes sense. I'm a learner here.
Gday mate,
I’ve not changed my diff gear ratios.
I have changed my low range gearing in the transfer case.
I have a 42% reduction in the transfer case low range gearing.
Hope that helps mate.
Let me know if you need any more information.
Cheers Tim.
Ahhh yeah that's right the transfer case haha my bad.
@@thecarpetcleaner haha
That’s cool mate.
Hey Batesy. Just wondering if your Intercooler has a fan underneath ? And if so is it on a thermo switch or manual switch? Thanks.
Gday mate,
Yes it does have a fan mounted underneath my intercooler.
The fan is activated by thermostatic temperature and comes on by itself.
It also won’t turn off until my EGTs get to around 200 degrees.
Hope that helps mate.
Cheers Tim.
@@timbates4wdadventures
Yeah nice ok. Just asking as I’m going to see cross country 4x4 and see what they recommend. They have the ultimate Intercooler and it’s huge ..comes with single or double fans. Will keep standard air box and pipe for now. See you haven’t changed yours either meaning you must be happy with the standard pipework? When it’s time for a tune I’ll consider changing. Thanks Batesy 🍺
@@pooshoe100
I had a Cross Country on before the cooler I have now.
It was slightly smaller.
I now have an HPD Intercooler.
Yeah I’ve only change the bonnet scope , the plumbing is still standard for now.
It’s work fine for the couple of years I’ve had this set up.
The tune will make a difference.
All the best with it all mate.
Cheers Tim.
Tim have you been to Mt Cole and that area?
Gday mate,
Yes I have.
Ive got a video on that trip mate.
Great area to check out.
Thanks mate for your reply.
Cheers Tim.
The bloke with the hat at the end of the video asked the question I’m asking, the bloke in the red shirt said yes definitely to inter cooling your engine without a turbo but straightaway started talking about turbos and intercoolers together I’m trying to find out can I intercool my naturally aspirated diesel without a turbo at all just the intercooler I’m in far North Queensland and I am just looking at keeping the old girl cooler and giving it cooler air in this heat. Can I put an intercooler on my old girl without even thinking about turbocharging her?
Please reply if you can will be very much appreciated
Will a bigger intercooler lower engine temps when under load cheers mate
Gday mate.
I’ll get Matt to run through the replies tomorrow.
Thanks for that
Cheers Tim.
Thanks Tim the reason I’m asking is I have a GU TD4.2 which doesn’t have a intercooler a the moment and would it be beneficial to add one cheers mate 👍
@@tonymcintyre7701 yes its a great addition and its important to make sure you have good air flow over the intercooler to assist in taking the heat away. If its under the bonnet make sure the intercooler is sealed to a good sized bonnet mounted vent. An extraction fan mounted under the intercooler is also a great idea.
An intercooler will not directly change coolant temp BUT, if the engine can do the same job more easily (with cool dense air) than you will find you will need less throttle, less RPM and arguably less engine heat will be generated.
@@mattjackson4541 thanks mate 👍
What’s Matt’s website Tim?
G'day David,
The website is on the Diesel Tune Australia website.
wwww.dieseltuneaustralia.com.au
Hope that helps mate.
Cheers Tim.
Many thanks Tim
@@druidstone733 No worries mate.
Do these inter coolers work on petrol engines?
G'day mate,
I'll get Matt to run through the replies today and answer them.
Thanks mate.
Cheers Tim.
Hi Glenn, no an intercooler is not required on a petrol engine BUT, cool intake air is still just as important. A late model EFI engine still monitors intake air temp (IAT) and the ECU will alter the tune and power as the temp rises. If you are looking to get the best performance out of your petrol or diesel engine, unrestricted, cold, dense air is required.
if it petrol turbo yes absolutely, its even higher recommended for a petrol turbo for many reasons.
I would love to but costs too much
G'day mate,
Yeah it can be with both upgrades.
Cheers Tim.
@@timbates4wdadventures
My 2.8 turbo is gutless now weighing in at 2.5t but can't justify the $10k for a few more ponies
@@aussieadventurestimetoplay Thats fine mate. I sure yours still gets you into amazing places.
@@timbates4wdadventures
Yeah but covid and life has held me back so no videos sadly
Thats the problem with four wheel drives, no matter what you do it costs a kidney.
Farinheight, don't even know how to spell it. What damn country we in?
A mistake im sure mate.
Cheers Tim.
Its spelt farenhite mate... :) The important thing is that every time we double the pressure, we double the temperature. For every 1-PSI added, we add 4.5 degrees Celsius.
Why in hell is this bloke talking in Fahrenheit???? we are in Australia Celsius please.
Im sure it was just a mistake.
Cheers Tim
The important thing is that every time we double the pressure, we double the temperature. For every 1-PSI added, we add 4.5 degrees Celsius. The Fahrenheit reference is just easier to remember!! :)