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You are AMAZING, Nate! I am 70 years old and continue to learn from your videos! This is exactly what I have been searching for! Thank you for the continued assistance and education!
Nate just got my Chester cheetah with 4x4 memo waveform all I can say is WOW . Went from 20 down 3 up now 130 down to 20 up well worth the money if it weren't for you I still would be slow riding . Thanks for your information keep the videos coming . MERRY CHRISMAS!!!!!.
Just got my router! Went from 20 Down 10up to 162 Down and 65up. Pretty nice upgrades. I am on SA. I am about 1.22miles away with bunch of trees in the way. I don't have my antenna tuned properly yet due to the winter. But I'm hoping I can see a bigger improvement in the summer when I can adjust the 4x4 waveform antenna. I only have an extended range 5g tower in my area. So I am guessing that's why I don't get 5g NSA. Thanks for all these videos. Helps us rural people get good internet!
It's pricey to upgrade to this. I have starlink and get about 400 down on a good day. But it's also way more expensive monthly. I got a 25 dollars a month plan during Christmas. And man it's worth it now.
Some positive feedback for you and others: Great info on the Cheetah modem router and Waveform 4x4 panel antenna. I'm 7 miles from T-mobile tower (with a view of the top of tower). Purchased the Waveform 4x4 to use on the Nokia trashcan, worked well for several months (consistant 300 down and 30 up). Then one day speed dropped to I.5 meg on upload only for 3 weeks, download stayed the same speeds. Note: the bands stayed the same as before N41 and B2 T-moble had just announced that N25 was operational (B2 when the UL speed dropped, Humm! Could not get the Nokia to change bands (only 1 T-mobile tower in my rural area that close to me). Replace the Nokia with a Chestertech Cheetah and now back up and better. For the last month speeds are 300-500 dl and 30-40 ul consistant on N41 and N25. Thank you for helping me get better internet service in our rural area Steve (and thanks again)!
I started with T-Mobile on the little white 4g box. Then the Nokia. Now the Arcadian for at least a year. Well I’ve been having dropouts i think its about time this thing is retired. Think I’m gonna get a cheetah, i should expect 200+ down and 50+ up, and I’m 3 miles from town, surrounded by trees and farmland.
I'm exactly 1 mile from a T mobile tower and their modem is hot garbage. Coming from 400 dl and 50 ul on Comcast to barely being able to watch a video is crazy. Glad I found this video, time to make some changes. Thanks for your input, it helped me make my decision.
Just got mine yesterday and I tried just plugging in the sim and it didn't work, only after re-watching the video did I get the subtext that you have change you IMEI to match the old device. Great content I wish that was more clearly stated but I get why for legal reasons that you probably didn't outright say it. Thanks for the tips
@@jonathanpotts3591 my Arcadian unit keeps finding itself stuck in bootloops and the RMA unit does the same... debating just getting this then, better customization than the Arcadian too... Love the service, just wish T-Mobile was better at their in-house device building and quality assurance
I love it you pretty much told everything how to use a tmobile home internet sim without telling people hint "IMEI repair" 🤣There is another device i have been using in my RV fulltime traveling with dual sim and imei repair also through AT commands. Been using with tmobile home internet and Firstnet(AT&T) its the cellular routers made by a company called Cudy there are very affordable and have all the same features as this one.
I need your help how did you get your cudy to work with your tmobile please help am having hard time changing the imei which u used or should i usee the gateway one came with t-mobile please help
lol you caught that too... I'm looking through his notes and then watched video going uh where does he clone the IMEI and then ooooh.. 'repair' :D :D :D
Nate we have been on T-Mobile for the last two months. Was unaware of the minimal things you could do on the Arcadian gateway until after I got connected. We live in a rural area so internet isn’t readily available. I’ve been a subscriber since having the gateway. Thanks for this info bud.
Love you Nate! I’ve learned so much from you that I’m now boringly over qualified compared to the people that work at TMobile and Verizon 😂 I signed up and tried both of them. Got the Arcadian router from T-Mobile, and it was just 2 weeks ago, and even though I’m in their 5g ultra wideband service, it only got 25down and 25up average. I never saw more than 45 down. Cancelling that and a magenta max phone line (ordered at the same time because they told me where the tower was and I can see it blinking at me from 1/2 mile away) was an absolute nightmare. I will never try TMobile again because of how awful everything got as soon as I said “I want to cancel”. Everything before that was fantastic though…. So the Verizon 5g box has been unbelievably consistent at 320down and 20up (same tower 1/2 mile away) and I love it! I am so sorry for the long rant, but my question is about the Verizon gateway 😂 so my gateway is the ASK-NCQ1338FA. I’ve only ever heard you mention the NCQ1338 gateway…. Is there even a difference? Verizon’s website says there is? For a second time I’ll say my question is really whether or not this gateway is able to have MIMO antennas hooked onto it? Do you have any insider info on whether this thing, the “FA” version is any different than the normal Askey? Thanks again Tater, love ya buddy!
Hey Curtis, thanks for tuning in! I'm glad the Verizon setup is working well for you. The FA appears to have some minor differences and I think the main one of note (especially as it relates to this video) is that the FA version has an eSIM and not the physical nano SIM located on the bottom of the gateway under the silicone flap and under a little screw cover. Maybe you can verify that for me! My understanding is the FA still has the same lack of ability to add an external antenna. HOWEVER with your situation if you are good with where the gateway is located and only are interested in faster speeds than current....don't do anything. I haven't seen anything in writing but the Verizon home internet on c-band appears to be throttled around that 320/20Mbps so adding an antenna wont help since you already get the "max" speeds.
@@NaterTater thanks for the reply, I gotcha, no way to use the Mimo antenna then? I’ve learned more about WiFi than I’ve cared to, but your channel has been an excellent source of information.
Thank you. I was able to go from zero cell service (T-Mobile) to 25mb down using the Chester Cheetah and Waveform 4x4 at my off-grid location in Kentucky. I didn't spend too much time testing and researching so perhaps I can do a little better. Thanks for the video.
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Thank you for EVERYTHING!!!! I'm thinking about getting one of these Chester devices, just not happy with the internal antennae in my Tmobile gateway and I don't want to risk "damaging" and getting charged for a replacement. Going to research this more tonight and probably order one of these. I'll run it alongside my current gateway for a month or so to prove it out before sending my gateway back.
Now your getting to my price range Nate lolo. Appreciate soooo much your purchases to help us all with our T Mobile router issues and the discounts you get us. Looking forward to future videos concerning upload and download speeds without an antenna attached before making a decision. Also does the T Mobile app no longer work with this router? Stay well! Anthony
@@NaterTater Thanks so much Nate! Always get a courtesy HELPFUL reply from you. Is it possible that T Mobile can eventually lock you out from using this router?
@@AAtta-3286 probably not, they can’t tell it isn’t what they shipped you, since to get it working, you set the IMEI to what your T-Mobile device is, then the sim card will work.. he didn’t want to outright say that in the video, so he showed how to “edit”, the IMEI 😉
@@mwolrich Much appreciated - TOTALLY understand - Thumbs up to Nate. I've had T Mobile 5g for almost 3 years and couldn't have made it without Nates Videos!
Got this on Monday and my Speedtest results are 3x faster than a prior device! Thank you. The Wi-Fi range is better but I still want to add mesh. I see a screen shows a “Mesh+” logo and there is a mesh button. Do you know what mesh units will work directly with this unit?
I would like to see a side to side comparison with one of T-Mobile gateways in terms of signal strength and quality. Both units in the same place, both without extra antennas.
Thank you again for another informative video. I just placed order of the Cheetah and could wait to see the improvement. I will post the result and question may have when I get it. Thanks again.
This looks like an all around better device and far more affordable than the Peplink.... Question - will a DNS change actually take with this device ? i have heard TMO will not allow traffic onto any other DNS. Have you tested this ? by the way.... Your content is always worthwhile. Big fan out here in Western Oregon!
Have been running the Chester gateway on T mobile home internet for several days now. As I have stated before, at my location the best result so for is configured for 5G-SA, with PCC on n41 and SCC on n25. For past two days, I have noticed at about 6 pm, n25 will became PCC and n41 became SCC, my speed would be down to 25 down and 2 up with 170 or so for the ping. I can going to Chester and turn n25 off then back on, it would switch PCC back to n41, and my speed will again back to 400+ down and 10 up with 40 ping time again. Not sure what could cause that except losing n41 momentary. Unless Chester gateway still does not immune from T mobile de-prioritization. I am currently waiting for Waveform 4x4 panel to see if that would further stabilize the band locking. Just to share my encounters.
I have used this router for more than 1 month now, I bought it a few days after having obtained the tmobile internet service and they gave me the seagmcom router when they activated the service, after only 2 days of testing with the seagmcom I was very annoyed with the router although the internet was fast there were times when it did not give me data and I had to restart the seagmcom, after looking for options I found this router some people recommended the new rm520 modem that was capable of CA 5G bands, It didn't take me long to get it to my house after ordering it and make the necessary configurations so it will work correctly before inserting the Sim. Compare both routers in the same place where I had the fastest and most stable connection, with the seagmcom it had a maximum between 280 to 320 mb of speed then I moved the sim to the other router, I placed it in the same place and boom a maximum of 300 to 360 mb, honestly I expected more but I remembered about SA mode where the router is capable of CA ( Carrier Aggregation ) 5G, so I switched to SA mode and found out why this modem is great! I managed to reach up to 505mb of download although the upload only reached 10mb but for the use that I give it it is much better, after adjusting the auto restart ,I no longer had problems with my connection although I programmed it to do it every day 4 a.m. So far in the time that I have been using it I have not had problems like I had with seagmcom, something that I loved about this router is the band lock ability, it helps me a lot since lte band 71 destabilizes my connection, now just uncheck that band and it works much better on NSA mode, if I only want to use band 41 and 25 on SA mode then I only leave those options marked, it has the ttl options for those who use other plans like cell phone or tablet plan and need to modify ttl , I would love to have an easier option to see the bands I'm connected to but it's not complicated since i know the command. So far I am very satisfied with the router and with the customer service that they have provided me, they helped me immediately with the doubts that I had about my tmobile home internet plan, about what changes I had to make to avoid having problems, the necessary commands to know the signal and settings for a better connection. PD: for my connection to work better, I use the band lock and I only mark the bands that I plan to use, for example, if I use NSA mode, I know that it will combine lte and 5G bands, so I select band 2 and 66 in lte and only in 5G I select 41, which is the fastest in my area and save in both, if I am going to use it in SA mode, which is when I want to download big things like video game updates, I only select band 41 and 25 in 5G and save or also if I prefer band 71 instead of 25 so I select only 41 and 71 and ready to save
Nater can you adjust packet size with this device or is that managed via another router downstream? Just wondering how it matches up with TMobile and their lower packet size.
Hey Nate, love the videos. I have a question: I have the T-Mobile Arcadyan router. When it’s inside behind a window I get 5mbps lte. If I put it on the other side of the window on my porch I get 160mbps and 5G. Is there an antenna that would have a smaller form factor than the waveform 4x4? I’m not sure I need something that substantial with the speeds I am getting from having it outside. Thanks in advance for any insight!
Nate your thumbnail says unlocked & Not Business Does that mean this router does not work the same for Tmobile Business Internet, as you show for home internet?
Thanks for all the great content on your channel, Nate! I am trying to get my parents setup with better internet at the rural home. I am taking the Waveform 4x4 MIMO and the Chester gateway with me. I will be picking up a T-Mobile sim card for them to activate on their account. Will I also need to have them get the T-Mobile gateway so I can "fix the corrupt IMEI"? I am confused as to if they have to double pay for a separate T-Mobile line for the new sim card as well as the monthly fee of having the T-Mobile gateway (which won't be used since I'll have the Chester)?
Great Video. So I have the T-Mobile home Arcadia Edition. So you're telling me if I order this Chester router my Arcadia home internet SIM card will work in it?
I am very pleased with the Mediatek one but there is a chance the Qualcomm outperforms it. However that is always the case with technology, waiting gets you better but at the expense of having it now!
Just like to pass some info with those using Chester router, with recent firmware (1.9.4) update, by properly enable the IPv6 stack, the latency on my 5G-SA has decreased by 50%, now my down is averaged around 450, and upload around 30, and ping at 20 or so. As IPv4 only setting, my ping averaged at 40.
@@timmturner yes. By using band locking, you will be stay on the 5G band. You may still see some speed fluctuations but will be relatively in small ranges as it is a wireless connectivity nature.
If T-Mobile switched my home internet account to business and I don’t necessarily need it and it’s the same price for me. Should I keep it or switch back to regular? Originally I switched to business to have static ip for Hulu live. Turned out the router was wrong one and still wouldn’t static ip so I ended up canceling Hulu tv. I have the tmo g4se and it’s less than reasonable speeds. Frequently loads to stream even one device or changes quality of picture showing poor speeds. Any advice would be greatly appreciated Nater
Hi Nate, what is the benefit if there is one to having T-mobile business internet vs home internet? Would it get better prioritization on the network if one has business internet? And would it be easier to get Chester modem up and running with business sim?
Business does not get any different priority than home internet but it does allow you to BYOB (bring your own device) so it is easier to use the Chester Cheetah. You also have the option for $3/mo to get a static IP address with the business plan. You might notice some streaming tv issues with business and if so you just call them to tell them to unblock those services (done by default for business).
@@NaterTater i just got my chester device. No instructions in the box! They must really be counting on u for setup videos. Do i have to manually put the device imei number in it? I put my tmobile home sim card in and nothing happened...
Have you ever tested the Cudy P5 5G router 4x4 MIMO before? I have T-Mobile 5G home internet so I’ve been looking at the Cudy along with the Chester router and would like to know which one do you think is better. Thanks
I don't see anyone asking but what are the Ethernet port options on this or should one plan on a separate device for lan ports Edit: sorry I rewatched and see two Ethernet ports
great video Nate! What gains over the Arcadyan KVD21 are you seeing? RSRQ, RSRP and SINR better? Debating on 4x4 MIMO External Antenna vs Chester CAT19-RM520N-GL
2x download improvement. Its not just RSRQ (a function of RSRP/SINR) but the fact that it can aggregate more bands and do 5G SA. Speed tests to come. And antennas.
Thanks Nater Tater. I've got a KVD21in a rural area that has weak but usable signal on N71. I can get 40 down and 20 up a lot of the time. Been like this since December now in July the 5G band is dropping a lot. I was going to get a Waveform 4X4 MIMO but after seeing this I'm wondering getting this Chester device since it has external antenna. I know the external antenna would be better but that comes with some difficult installation issues for me. Have you done any comparisons between the KVD21 internal antenna and the Chesters?
Yes, ruclips.net/video/TeyMAGqRaSI/видео.html the Chester is often much faster due to band locking ability and more carrier aggregation. And easy to add external antennas if needed.
Which video has the information on showing what bands I'm on? Using Chester's modem. I watched it once. I need to find it again. I'm going to play with the bands but I need to see what I'm connected to.
Happy Easter Nate, you may have answered my question already but I’ve not found it. Are you saying that T-Mobile home internet SIM card can now be used on a 3rd party modem? I have some specific requirements as I run many devices that require a static IP address. Will I be able to utilize a static IP address with one of the devices you have on your channel? At my house, I am able to get nearly 500mbps down and 80 up.
The gateway you use doesnt determine if you get a static public IP. You can achieve that with a VPN or you can purchase a static IP from t-mobile on their business plan.
@Brent McCain the home internet requires the specific instructions in this video. The business 5g internet allows bring your own device as "plug n play".
Great information , really appreciate your time and effort you put in. One question ( sure to be asked again) Is the wifi easy to turn off ? Like a simple uncheck on the setup page?
I didnt catch the whole show live. basic question, can this just be used as a modem? I'm using a unifi dream machine se router. I'd like to use this an a modem only mode with t-mobile and allow my unifi gear to do all the routing. Also, Did i miss any speed testing? You said its better but can you quantify?
I was getting 2x the download speed vs a KVD21 due to the ability to aggregate multiple bands. as you know exact speeds for you depend on many things. example is i was getting 222mbps down on the Chester unit and 110mbps on the kvd21. Big speed test comparison is coming.
So to be sure I'm understanding this tutorial correctly, Will my original t- mobile gateway "sim card" work in this chester? Or do I need to upgrade to the business plan? I would like to just order the Chester and put my sim card in without the hassle of going in to t mobile and getting a new business sim plan
@tolust I haven't forgotten about you. you can use the DMZ setting on the chester router to send all the internet packets "unfiltered' (ie no firewall) to your router and then you can disable wifi radios to get to a dumbed down router. Not a full modem only but for many it will achieve the desired affect. A video may be coming but I have a huge backlog of them to get thru!
Nate, I have a similar modem/router purchased from Suncomm called the O1. Looks like it runs the same firmware. Did you do any particular commands or setup etc to get the router working with T-mobile? Or did yours work by simply putting the SIM card in and possibly setting APN. I’m on the struggle bus to keep mine staying connected without constantly rebooting. Thanks.
if its boot looping that's not due to APN or SIM settings. Might want to contact your seller or you can see if Chester can help you out chestertechrepairs@gmail.com
@@NaterTater when I said rebooting I meant the modem loses connection, then reestablishes connection repeatedly. Seems to be some sort of authentication issue.
@@NaterTater not that either. I figured it out, the modem in this particular router needs to have IPv6 completely turned off. Including the IPv6 radio button next to IPv6 Setting. I’m going to trouble shoot it further. Interesting honestly…. Maybe I have a bugged firmware.
Will this work with Televes 130990 Evoka antenna to broadcast T-mobile 5g signal? Interested in the Cheetah for Wi-Fi/5G router/modem combo broadcasting Xfinity Wi-Fi and 5G signal from Televes
Thanks for all the work you put into your videos and the info! One thing I haven't seen you mention is any device that doesn't have wifi at all. Just a simple 5G gigabit router (more like a simple modem instead of an aio device). Is there anything like that you can recommend for T-Mobile 5G home or business internet?
@@NaterTater basically yes, a 5G modem with no router 👍 Any suggestions for T-Mobile. I live within a few miles line of sight of a 5G ultra capacity Tower.
I'm sure there's something out there but I haven't messed with any 5G capable ones. This Chester 5G unit can have the wifi and DHCP server turned off so its closer to just a modem. I have used the Elsys Amplimax (4G only) that only has an ethernet port but does have router functionality by default: ruclips.net/video/tTrer83xqs8/видео.html
@@NaterTater thanks, I totally get that Wi-Fi can be turned off on the device in this video. I simply don't want to pay for anything I don't need unless there's no other options or the other options are extremely flawed. I'll probably reach out to my contact at my local electric company/ISP. I don't know how he keeps up with everything that he keeps up with but he may know of a solution and if he does I'll try to remember to come back here and let you know 👍
Thanks Nate. I had a 4 LTE sim router on TM using old (no longer available) ONE Plan + $20 per month International plan to stream internet unlimited since 2018. I want the same unlimited streaming and was wondering if you know if the Magenta Max would give me unlimited streaming or would you suggest staying with ONE + International plan?? I got the Chester last week and the ONE Plan + International works fine on 5G. I was getting 25 down and now getting 140 down!!
Nate, Important basic question. Can the Chester RM520N-GL be put into a "modem only" mode? (IE, bye-pass routing). I'm evaluating t-mobile service/equipment. Impressed with speed/performance in my area (780/120MB, reasonable ping times) but must use with my external router and can not use with t-mobile equipment (can not have double NAT, using VLANS and local server that needs external access). Considering Chester only if it can be put into a modem only mode to integrate with current setup. Thanks for your research and information.
Tmobile has CGNAT so you're automatically double NAT on IPV4 and also dont have a static public IPv4 address to be able to access your LAN from the internet. Tmobile business 5g can give you a static IP as can using a VPN service to tunnel thru. But the Chester device does not currently have a full modem only setting.
Nater!! First, you rock and thanks for all the great data. Second, I understand that I need a "ninja" or "invisigig" from Chester to have the Cheetah step in place of my Nokia gateway. Is that covered in any of your videos? If not, could you briefly comment on what is involved? Thank you sir!
Hey, you only need 1 of any of those. So just a Cheetah will work great as it has a wifi router built in so its a "gateway". Or you could get a 🥷, Invisagig or other offering but then you might need to added a wifi router if you dont have one.
Hi Brad, I'm not all about Peplink. They have some great business level management features and speed bonding/seemless failover but they tend to be a bit behind on 5G. The only Peplink I tested that showed competitive 5G sub-6 speed was Max BR1 5g Pro. The MoFi also underperformed. The fastest was Chester Cheetah but it does lack some of the advanced business features (but has band locking, tower locking and other neat features).
Nate I have a T-Mobile NOK 5G21 Gateway Kit, will the SIM card from this T-Mobile Router work with Chester Modem? If so will it need to be reconfigured or work out of the box?
I love you videos nate, but I'm still confused about these routers. You directed me to this video from another video I had questions about. With that said, there are company's making these routers for 5g service that use sim cards that cell companies don't allow on third party devices? I understand that there are loop holes with Verizon (Watching your other videos), but I don't want to do anything ilegal. if it is not legal to insert a sim card in these devices, is there an adaptor for the sim card that can keep it outside of the device but still be plugged into it? Or, am I wrong and these are totaly legal?
I'm not a lawyer so I can't provide legal advice, my opinion is nothing I show is illegal. There are aspects that are against the terms of service for some plans. Both Verizon and t-mobile have plans designed for "bring your own device" aka BYOD. They often cost more or have data usage or speed limitations that the home internet plans do not have. I dont know of a sim adapter to keep the sim physically outside of the unit. Great idea though!
@@NaterTater How are you obtaining a SIM for your devices? Is your service throttled or do you have data limitations? What is your advice on how a noob like me should get service for their own device? Thanks again for your responses.
Hi Nate, just found this. Can I use any sim card from a t-mobile phone or do I need to subscribe to the t-mobile home internet and use the sim from a sagecomm?
Awesome information Nater, I've been running the Mofi4500 for a few years. I'm running it on visible. I'm locked on B4 and B13. I'm getting ard 35 down and 15 up. I was looking in upgrading to a 5G . I was wondering if it would be worth it? And what's a good cellular router? Thanks
If you have 5G signal then it's definitely worth it! The Chester Cheetah router I show in this video would work well on Visible and you can run 88 TTL.
Hello Natertater, I hope all is well. I just purchased the chester cheetah rm520, and I've been very impressed, I'm now getting ard and sometimes over 200dw and ard 15up on B2, B13, and n77 My ping time is between 1 and 2 seconds with the older visible plan. But every once in a while, under a data load, it would disconnect . Then reconnect . Update,,,,I purchased an updated SIM card because my monthly bill was $5 cheaper. Once I put in a new SIM card, I put in APN for the new visible card. My ping time went from 1. To 2 seconds to .50 to .25 ms. Alot faster ping time but the same speed. But I'm Not getting disconnected anymore under a data load. I just thought I would report that information to you. Just received the 4×4 wF. The signal on n77 was weak. Hopefully, the 4x4 will help 5g. Thank you very, very much for helping me and saving me money. Much appreciated. Take care, and God bless. Walt
Hey Nate, thanks for the great work you are doing! I work remotely from home as a radiologist and live in a semi-rural area where there is not wired broadband yet. I have to connect my workstation to the hospital I work for via an IPSEC VPN tunnel. There is a hardware device at both ends that creates this tunnel. It does not require a static IP address, but does need to establish this type of tunnel. I'm currently using a fixed wireless ISP in my area for internet, but it has been pretty unreliable. Recently I got the T-Mobile home internet for my household needs. It has performed pretty well with just the Sagemcom gateway and my home MESH wifi network. However, when I hooked up my work equipment to the T-Mobile device, it would not create the VPN tunnel. I'm told that I can't do that on the T-Mobile home internet. Is that a limitation of the Sagemcom gateway or the T-Mobile tower/network? I'm wondering the Chester device you reviewed in this video would allow me to get that tunnel built over the T-Mobile connection. I guess I would have to get a business account to get a SIM card for the Chester device.
Hi Daniel, IPSEC VPN is one of the harder things to get to work. SSL VPN's are mostly all working now on TMHI. Do you have your VPN device plug into the Sagemcom directly or into your mesh system? Try both if you haven't. Also if your mesh system has an IPv6 passthrough enable it. There's a few more things to try but let me know about these.
@@NaterTater Thanks Nate. Yes, I connected my VPN device directly to the Sagemcom device and it didn't work. I did not try to do it over my Mesh system. I'm quite sure that wouldn't have worked.
@Daniel Fullmer you might be able to host your own VPN on your mesh system and have your work VPN hooked to that. Your work IPSEC VPN would effectively go thru your personal SSL VPN to get out of the tmobile network constraints. It would slow things down but if you're just doing it to access charts/images and need it for HIPPA then that shouldnt matter. It might not work well for live video conferencing.
I have this same device purchased from a company called Net Buddy. You are mistaken about the antennas. The antennas on either side are for the mimo cell network, the four antennas on the back are for the WiFi service. This has been a fairly reliable router for me, but I am very disappointed because there seems no way to enable passthrough. I have a pfSense router behind it, and doing the double NAT is not optimum. I wish future firmware would enable pass through mode. But, thanks for your videos, you are much more aware than anyone else I have found.
Hi Wilbur, this is not a net buddy. They may have similar or even the same housing but this is a different unit and indeed I mention the antenna locations correctly.
@@NaterTater Understood, and apologize for my mistake. However your Chester looks identical to my Netbudy, both say %G CPE, and they both have identical firmware. I stepped through my "mesh" firmware settings as you went through the ones on your Chester device. Each and every option is identical. Even when I executed the AT command as you did, my results were same as yours. Again, I apologize for the allegation. I do appreciate your videos, and acknowledge that you are one of the most aware I have observed regarding cellular gateway devices.
If I plan to use a regular T-Mobile data SIM card (not a T-Mobile Home Internet SIM card) is that still throttled by CGNAT? And couldn't the TTL setting be configured to essentially "mask" that data line to be used for data only (like a cell phone) and not hotspot data?
Hi Nate, I ordered the Cheetah 5G router and just got it. Now I am trying to decide which service provider to use, I will use it as my RV Mobile internet router, can I get a iPad nano-SIM card and insert it or I need to buy a "home internet" plan? I currently have Verizon, and T-mobile does not offer home internet where I live. Any recommendations are welcome. And thanks for the $45 + free shipping, it helped!
mr natertater, in process of buying this unit ,i have t mobile do you recommend this router interweb box?im wooded and going to purhase the 4x4 wave outdoor antenna, i get 2 cell phone bar now,my t mobile box goes from morning 17mpbs down by nite to 2mbps. i have att phone dsl 6 mbps. i need this upgrade to work lol ,what do you think?
Great speeds! Interesting on wifi, I didnt notice that during standalone testing but I typically have my gateways hooked up to my Asus AiMesh setup for wifi coverage.
@@socalfishing3121 yes, it should accept any SMA wifi antenna. Is 2.4ghz not traveling far either? Have you checked the wifi settings to make sure nothing is amiss?
After watching your videos I purchased this router I have gone from about 3mbps to about 30 and I am waiting on my 4x4 mimo to come in so hopefully that will make it even better... I have T-Mobile home internet ... and also have T-Mobile cell service... but every time I connect my cell to wifi it goes into SOS mode now that I have this router ... can you direct me to a video that cover this issue?
I thought he did, it worked for a few minutes but then right back to sos.... I have put the AT command he gave me in a few times..always the same result it eventually kicks us back to sos on our phones @@NaterTater
question i have the sdx55 the v1 modem and wifi calling sometimes doesnt work with tmobile home internet do you know the at commands to fix that issue?
Nater, trying to understand this stuff, just wanted a fast reliable system that can swap cell carriers for home internet since my broadband sucks in Miami Beach, thinking Verizon would be the best sim to start with, want access to towers further away, want access to different sim carriers if verizon doesnt work well, thinking these routers are better than the verizon or tmobile ones they give you when you get home internet, even heard of some companies that you can pay for service, they send you a router & it "automatically" switches between the best signals with the carriers, any way, can you give me some direction, i assume 5g is here with every carrier where i live but my neighbor has tmobile & its a bit flaky
Most any SIM or carrier can work on these routers. If you email or chat with Chester Tech Repairs he can preconfigure the router and I think even get you hooked up with a SIM/ plan.
You probably could with other sims that work on t-mobile (maybe). But the gateways are very locked down and you'd be way better off using another gateway.
@@NaterTater that would be awesome. I'm very rural and on the edge of TMHI coverage area. Tmobile upped N41 in my area and my trashcan grabbed it but I get NO INTERNET on any of my devices when connected to N41 here. Struggled with tech support for almost a week and ultimately climbed out on the roof and tried pointing my waveform 4x4 panel away from the tower (pointed down at my roof - lol) and sure enough at least back on N71 but with worse metrics - but at least connected. So looking for something to keep me off of N41 for now but keep my antenna pointed in the right direction. Not sure if there is any other way to accomplish this in the short run but looking for options. Thanks for all that you do to help us out here!!
@@sp333yt i am having this exact same issue. i get 2 bars and zero internet when connected to N41. our internet went from 250 down 30 up to page timeouts and us having to use phone hotspots. if you find a fix without buying a $500 device, please let me know.
Hi i have zte mc888 router with option of 5g sa but it doesn't work only works with 5nsa I use vodafone and I do have 5g sa coverage in my area when I spoke with vodafone they told me it only works for some ceartan mobile phones do you know how to go around it and make it work or do I need different router to make it work if possible? I live in UK thank you for your help and time have a nice day
Nate, I hate to bother you with such a simple question but I have the Tmoble 4G lite grey moden/router and no matter where I put it in my home I still can't get a decent enough signal to get even 20mpbs download speeds, when I first got it, I was getting around 25-30mpbs but now I can barely get 5-10mpbs if I am lucky. I bought a signal booster with a yagi antenna and I could lock onto a tower and get 50mpbs download and my uploads skyrocketed to around 20mpbs but after a few minutes it wouldn't stay locked on and I lost all signal. I receive multiple warnings from my online bank account, etc. almost every day that someone is logging onto my account from a different location and IP address and so I investigated and found that Tmobile was logging me in from all these different locations so I called Tmobile about this and they claim that is is their standard practice to use the best antenna location at the time so it will vary but I don't buy that BS, especially since I now have practically no signal and can't seem to get my antenna set on a tower. I just ordered an omnidirectionl antenna since it seems to me that Tmobile is somehow piggybacking off other towers or something fishy. My antenna mast is 25 feet high which should have been more than sufficient for me to get a good lock on a Tmobile tower but I find these tower maps a bit hard to read but I do at least get the gist of it and can see which are emitting my band for Tmobile and where they are. I guess I am asking what is the best thing for me to do since I have already spend a few hundred dollars not to mention the monthly Tmobile fee. Actually, counting the mast, I have spent about $1,000 and a lot of work for no results. Can you give me any advice ? Am I doing something wrong or is it Tmobile sticking it to me? I would change to Verizon immediately (Verizon towers everywhere around me) but their top package is $100/month with I think a 5G data cap which is no good for me cause I work from home on the internet. Please give me some advice. I know you are super busy but I am desperate.
T-mobile does move your public IP around so that is what confuses your online bank. You should try a 3rd party 5g router. Or Verizon's 5G Home internet plan is $50/mo, delivers 300/20mbps of unlimited data.
I didn't understand at all how this device would just work if I put in a T-mobile home internet nano SIM. You talked about IMEI lock, so how could it possibly work?
Hi Nate! Love the videos... very informative. I've had T-Mobile home internet for about a week now testing. They sent me a refurbished Nokia gateway. The main problem I'm having is that the unit drops connection for several seconds from time to time. The screen on the Nokia shows it's connected but I get a "no internet" message on the computer. Likewise the readings on the mobile app go blank on the Advanced cellular metrics screen, than come back after a few seconds. In your opinion could something like the Chester fix this? Thanks!
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I just picked one up. Thanks
Would you get the cheetah or waveform 4x4 on a kvd21?
Depends on your situation. Do you need bandlocking and network config or a stronger signal more?
You are AMAZING, Nate! I am 70 years old and continue to learn from your videos! This is exactly what I have been searching for! Thank you for the continued assistance and education!
Happy to help!
Nate just got my Chester cheetah with 4x4 memo waveform all I can say is WOW . Went from 20 down 3 up now 130 down to 20 up well worth the money if it weren't for you I still would be slow riding . Thanks for your information keep the videos coming . MERRY CHRISMAS!!!!!.
Awesome! Great to hear and Merry Christmas to you 🎄
Just got my router! Went from 20 Down 10up to 162 Down and 65up. Pretty nice upgrades. I am on SA. I am about 1.22miles away with bunch of trees in the way. I don't have my antenna tuned properly yet due to the winter. But I'm hoping I can see a bigger improvement in the summer when I can adjust the 4x4 waveform antenna. I only have an extended range 5g tower in my area. So I am guessing that's why I don't get 5g NSA. Thanks for all these videos. Helps us rural people get good internet!
It's pricey to upgrade to this. I have starlink and get about 400 down on a good day. But it's also way more expensive monthly. I got a 25 dollars a month plan during Christmas. And man it's worth it now.
Very true!
Some positive feedback for you and others: Great info on the Cheetah modem router and Waveform 4x4 panel antenna.
I'm 7 miles from T-mobile tower (with a view of the top of tower). Purchased the Waveform 4x4 to use on the Nokia trashcan, worked well for several months (consistant 300 down and 30 up).
Then one day speed dropped to I.5 meg on upload only for 3 weeks, download stayed the same speeds. Note: the bands stayed the same as before N41 and B2
T-moble had just announced that N25 was operational (B2 when the UL speed dropped, Humm!
Could not get the Nokia to change bands (only 1 T-mobile tower in my rural area that close to me).
Replace the Nokia with a Chestertech Cheetah and now back up and better. For the last month speeds are 300-500 dl and 30-40 ul consistant on N41 and N25.
Thank you for helping me get better internet service in our rural area
Steve (and thanks again)!
Awesome, thanks for sharing!
I started with T-Mobile on the little white 4g box. Then the Nokia. Now the Arcadian for at least a year. Well I’ve been having dropouts i think its about time this thing is retired. Think I’m gonna get a cheetah, i should expect 200+ down and 50+ up, and I’m 3 miles from town, surrounded by trees and farmland.
Oh yeah. Over the years Nate taught me how to rig up my Nokia AND my arcadyian with waveform antennas!!! Thanks nate
I'm exactly 1 mile from a T mobile tower and their modem is hot garbage. Coming from 400 dl and 50 ul on Comcast to barely being able to watch a video is crazy. Glad I found this video, time to make some changes. Thanks for your input, it helped me make my decision.
Just got mine yesterday and I tried just plugging in the sim and it didn't work, only after re-watching the video did I get the subtext that you have change you IMEI to match the old device. Great content I wish that was more clearly stated but I get why for legal reasons that you probably didn't outright say it. Thanks for the tips
Glad you got it working!
It's not working quite yet but, today after work I should be able to get it going
@@jonathanpotts3591 were you able to get it up and running?
Yep that is what you have to do is change the IMEI to the old device and it works like a charm
@@jonathanpotts3591 my Arcadian unit keeps finding itself stuck in bootloops and the RMA unit does the same... debating just getting this then, better customization than the Arcadian too...
Love the service, just wish T-Mobile was better at their in-house device building and quality assurance
Anxious for this video as well. Thanks for doing that for us. ❤
This is what I've been looking for! Ordered it last night. Thank you for all of your work on this!
Glad I could help!
I love it you pretty much told everything how to use a tmobile home internet sim without telling people hint "IMEI repair" 🤣There is another device i have been using in my RV fulltime traveling with dual sim and imei repair also through AT commands. Been using with tmobile home internet and Firstnet(AT&T) its the cellular routers made by a company called Cudy there are very affordable and have all the same features as this one.
I need your help how did you get your cudy to work with your tmobile please help am having hard time changing the imei which u used or should i usee the gateway one came with t-mobile please help
lol you caught that too... I'm looking through his notes and then watched video going uh where does he clone the IMEI and then ooooh.. 'repair' :D :D :D
Nate we have been on T-Mobile for the last two months. Was unaware of the minimal things you could do on the Arcadian gateway until after I got connected. We live in a rural area so internet isn’t readily available. I’ve been a subscriber since having the gateway. Thanks for this info bud.
You're welcome!
Love you Nate! I’ve learned so much from you that I’m now boringly over qualified compared to the people that work at TMobile and Verizon 😂 I signed up and tried both of them. Got the Arcadian router from T-Mobile, and it was just 2 weeks ago, and even though I’m in their 5g ultra wideband service, it only got 25down and 25up average. I never saw more than 45 down. Cancelling that and a magenta max phone line (ordered at the same time because they told me where the tower was and I can see it blinking at me from 1/2 mile away) was an absolute nightmare. I will never try TMobile again because of how awful everything got as soon as I said “I want to cancel”. Everything before that was fantastic though…. So the Verizon 5g box has been unbelievably consistent at 320down and 20up (same tower 1/2 mile away) and I love it! I am so sorry for the long rant, but my question is about the Verizon gateway 😂 so my gateway is the ASK-NCQ1338FA. I’ve only ever heard you mention the NCQ1338 gateway…. Is there even a difference? Verizon’s website says there is? For a second time I’ll say my question is really whether or not this gateway is able to have MIMO antennas hooked onto it? Do you have any insider info on whether this thing, the “FA” version is any different than the normal Askey? Thanks again Tater, love ya buddy!
Hey Curtis, thanks for tuning in! I'm glad the Verizon setup is working well for you. The FA appears to have some minor differences and I think the main one of note (especially as it relates to this video) is that the FA version has an eSIM and not the physical nano SIM located on the bottom of the gateway under the silicone flap and under a little screw cover. Maybe you can verify that for me! My understanding is the FA still has the same lack of ability to add an external antenna. HOWEVER with your situation if you are good with where the gateway is located and only are interested in faster speeds than current....don't do anything. I haven't seen anything in writing but the Verizon home internet on c-band appears to be throttled around that 320/20Mbps so adding an antenna wont help since you already get the "max" speeds.
My Arcadian arrived yesterday. I'm getting 12down/1up ... unsatisfactory.
Pertaining to the FA, am I able to put the eSIM in an 3rd party modem/router to utilize my external antenna I already have?
I'm not aware of how to "move" a eSIM.
@@NaterTater thanks for the reply, I gotcha, no way to use the Mimo antenna then? I’ve learned more about WiFi than I’ve cared to, but your channel has been an excellent source of information.
Thank you. I was able to go from zero cell service (T-Mobile) to 25mb down using the Chester Cheetah and Waveform 4x4 at my off-grid location in Kentucky. I didn't spend too much time testing and researching so perhaps I can do a little better. Thanks for the video.
Awesome!
How much is the Chester cheetah cost?
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Great video for those that can read between the lines!
Thank you for EVERYTHING!!!! I'm thinking about getting one of these Chester devices, just not happy with the internal antennae in my Tmobile gateway and I don't want to risk "damaging" and getting charged for a replacement. Going to research this more tonight and probably order one of these. I'll run it alongside my current gateway for a month or so to prove it out before sending my gateway back.
Oh boy! Thanks Nater. I’ve had my eye on this exact router for several months so your review was much appreciated. 💯👍
Glad to help!
Thanks brother!!! Now I can get rid of this archaic Arcadian!! I appreciate the $45 off coupon, that really helps.
Now your getting to my price range Nate lolo. Appreciate soooo much your purchases to help us all with our T Mobile router issues and the discounts you get us. Looking forward to future videos concerning upload and download speeds without an antenna attached before making a decision. Also does the T Mobile app no longer work with this router? Stay well! Anthony
oh this is faster! i was seeing up to 2x download improvement vs KVD21 in the same spot/time.
@@NaterTater Thanks so much Nate! Always get a courtesy HELPFUL reply from you. Is it possible that T Mobile can eventually lock you out from using this router?
@@AAtta-3286 probably not, they can’t tell it isn’t what they shipped you, since to get it working, you set the IMEI to what your T-Mobile device is, then the sim card will work.. he didn’t want to outright say that in the video, so he showed how to “edit”, the IMEI 😉
@@mwolrich Much appreciated - TOTALLY understand - Thumbs up to Nate. I've had T Mobile 5g for almost 3 years and couldn't have made it without Nates Videos!
Correct that the tmobile app won't work with this router. But you can get better info from this router's web interface anyway.
Got this on Monday and my Speedtest results are 3x faster than a prior device! Thank you. The Wi-Fi range is better but I still want to add mesh. I see a screen shows a “Mesh+” logo and there is a mesh button. Do you know what mesh units will work directly with this unit?
Yes, I'm curious if this would work with a Google/Nest mesh Wi-Fi setup?
Really man..no s..t you really do..but we love it when you let it out so rock on man! Best Regards and Best Wishes for 2023!
🤣 Happy new year!
I would like to see a side to side comparison with one of T-Mobile gateways in terms of signal strength and quality. Both units in the same place, both without extra antennas.
That is coming!
Just set my cheetah box up today, went from 15Mbps on the Arcadyan KVD21 to 103Mbps. Fastest speeds I've ever seen from T-Mobile home internet.
Awesome!
Thank you again for another informative video. I just placed order of the Cheetah and could wait to see the improvement. I will post the result and question may have when I get it. Thanks again.
Glad it was helpful! Let us know the results.
Best news ever….now if was $300 …. That would be super …. But thisss I might have to get 😎😃
These are rebranded suncomm's. Can get latest and greatest 5g modems for $300 shipped to your door
Liked your theoretical changing of the imei over 😂👍👍
This looks like an all around better device and far more affordable than the Peplink.... Question - will a DNS change actually take with this device ? i have heard TMO will not allow traffic onto any other DNS. Have you tested this ? by the way.... Your content is always worthwhile. Big fan out here in Western Oregon!
yes DNS change works here. Maybe you read that you cant use a custom DNS on the t-mobile gateway itself?
Anxious to see your speed tests😀
Upcoming
Fantastic video Nate. That modem looks real sweet.
Thanks!
Have been running the Chester gateway on T mobile home internet for several days now. As I have stated before, at my location the best result so for is configured for 5G-SA, with PCC on n41 and SCC on n25. For past two days, I have noticed at about 6 pm, n25 will became PCC and n41 became SCC, my speed would be down to 25 down and 2 up with 170 or so for the ping. I can going to Chester and turn n25 off then back on, it would switch PCC back to n41, and my speed will again back to 400+ down and 10 up with 40 ping time again. Not sure what could cause that except losing n41 momentary. Unless Chester gateway still does not immune from T mobile de-prioritization. I am currently waiting for Waveform 4x4 panel to see if that would further stabilize the band locking. Just to share my encounters.
Thank you for pointing me to Chester Nathan
Glad it helped!
Thanks Nate! As always , I appreciate the time and resources you put into making these videos! Great info!
Thanks for watching! Did you see you made it in the vid?! 😄
I have used this router for more than 1 month now, I bought it a few days after having obtained the tmobile internet service and they gave me the seagmcom router when they activated the service, after only 2 days of testing with the seagmcom I was very annoyed with the router although the internet was fast there were times when it did not give me data and I had to restart the seagmcom, after looking for options I found this router some people recommended the new rm520 modem that was capable of CA 5G bands, It didn't take me long to get it to my house after ordering it and make the necessary configurations so it will work correctly before inserting the Sim. Compare both routers in the same place where I had the fastest and most stable connection, with the seagmcom it had a maximum between 280 to 320 mb of speed then I moved the sim to the other router, I placed it in the same place and boom a maximum of 300 to 360 mb, honestly I expected more but I remembered about SA mode where the router is capable of CA ( Carrier Aggregation ) 5G, so I switched to SA mode and found out why this modem is great! I managed to reach up to 505mb of download although the upload only reached 10mb but for the use that I give it it is much better, after adjusting the auto restart ,I no longer had problems with my connection although I programmed it to do it every day 4 a.m. So far in the time that I have been using it I have not had problems like I had with seagmcom, something that I loved about this router is the band lock ability, it helps me a lot since lte band 71 destabilizes my connection, now just uncheck that band and it works much better on NSA mode, if I only want to use band 41 and 25 on SA mode then I only leave those options marked, it has the ttl options for those who use other plans like cell phone or tablet plan and need to modify ttl , I would love to have an easier option to see the bands I'm connected to but it's not complicated since i know the command.
So far I am very satisfied with the router and with the customer service that they have provided me, they helped me immediately with the doubts that I had about my tmobile home internet plan, about what changes I had to make to avoid having problems, the necessary commands to know the signal and settings for a better connection.
PD: for my connection to work better, I use the band lock and I only mark the bands that I plan to use, for example, if I use NSA mode, I know that it will combine lte and 5G bands, so I select band 2 and 66 in lte and only in 5G I select 41, which is the fastest in my area and save in both, if I am going to use it in SA mode, which is when I want to download big things like video game updates, I only select band 41 and 25 in 5G and save or also if I prefer band 71 instead of 25 so I select only 41 and 71 and ready to save
Also I forgot to mention I buy this from ebay without the nate nater coupon 😅 I didn't know he will get a coupon for everyone
Thanks for this amazing explanation. I learned a lot from your as well. 😊
Nater can you adjust packet size with this device or is that managed via another router downstream? Just wondering how it matches up with TMobile and their lower packet size.
Hey Nate, love the videos. I have a question: I have the T-Mobile Arcadyan router. When it’s inside behind a window I get 5mbps lte. If I put it on the other side of the window on my porch I get 160mbps and 5G. Is there an antenna that would have a smaller form factor than the waveform 4x4? I’m not sure I need something that substantial with the speeds I am getting from having it outside. Thanks in advance for any insight!
Nate your thumbnail says unlocked & Not Business Does that mean this router does not work the same for Tmobile Business Internet, as you show for home internet?
This works with business or home internet plans
Thanks for all the great content on your channel, Nate!
I am trying to get my parents setup with better internet at the rural home. I am taking the Waveform 4x4 MIMO and the Chester gateway with me. I will be picking up a T-Mobile sim card for them to activate on their account. Will I also need to have them get the T-Mobile gateway so I can "fix the corrupt IMEI"? I am confused as to if they have to double pay for a separate T-Mobile line for the new sim card as well as the monthly fee of having the T-Mobile gateway (which won't be used since I'll have the Chester)?
Had this router for 2 weeks and would love to learn to tower lock. Want to test out multiple towers nearby
The plan is to test out this feature so I can share the best way to do it.
Great Video. So I have the T-Mobile home Arcadia Edition. So you're telling me if I order this Chester router my Arcadia home internet SIM card will work in it?
That is correct IF you follow this video.
Hello Nate! Is it worthwhile to wait for the Qualcomm version of this, hopefullly, with the X65 modem, versus the current Mediatek version?
I am very pleased with the Mediatek one but there is a chance the Qualcomm outperforms it. However that is always the case with technology, waiting gets you better but at the expense of having it now!
Just like to pass some info with those using Chester router, with recent firmware (1.9.4) update, by properly enable the IPv6 stack, the latency on my 5G-SA has decreased by 50%, now my down is averaged around 450, and upload around 30, and ping at 20 or so. As IPv4 only setting, my ping averaged at 40.
Are you saying you can bypass cgnat?
@@timmturner yes. By using band locking, you will be stay on the 5G band. You may still see some speed fluctuations but will be relatively in small ranges as it is a wireless connectivity nature.
If T-Mobile switched my home internet account to business and I don’t necessarily need it and it’s the same price for me. Should I keep it or switch back to regular? Originally I switched to business to have static ip for Hulu live. Turned out the router was wrong one and still wouldn’t static ip so I ended up canceling Hulu tv. I have the tmo g4se and it’s less than reasonable speeds. Frequently loads to stream even one device or changes quality of picture showing poor speeds. Any advice would be greatly appreciated Nater
What is it advantage of using a device such as this instead of the t-mobile device? Will it be undoubtably and notably faster?
Yay! I hate my T-Mobile gateway. I’m buying this badboy 😊
That's the spirit! 🤣👍
How do I purchase this
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Hi Nate, what is the benefit if there is one to having T-mobile business internet vs home internet? Would it get better prioritization on the network if one has business internet? And would it be easier to get Chester modem up and running with business sim?
Business does not get any different priority than home internet but it does allow you to BYOB (bring your own device) so it is easier to use the Chester Cheetah. You also have the option for $3/mo to get a static IP address with the business plan. You might notice some streaming tv issues with business and if so you just call them to tell them to unblock those services (done by default for business).
Love that intro! U must do it on every video!
😂
@@NaterTater i just got my chester device. No instructions in the box! They must really be counting on u for setup videos. Do i have to manually put the device imei number in it?
I put my tmobile home sim card in and nothing happened...
@@crazyhass84 yes and they have some instructions on the Chester website "blog"
How would you setup a mesh wifi with this router? Thinking long range around a property.
Have you ever tested the Cudy P5 5G router 4x4 MIMO before? I have T-Mobile 5G home internet so I’ve been looking at the Cudy along with the Chester router and would like to know which one do you think is better. Thanks
I havent tested the Cudy unfortunately.
Ok and thanks
Thanks for the information. Great Video. Is it possible to use the device in a mobile, driving application?
Yes all these routers support mobile use.
I don't see anyone asking but what are the Ethernet port options on this or should one plan on a separate device for lan ports
Edit: sorry I rewatched and see two Ethernet ports
Did the Chester require any SIM card adapters, or did the Nano-SIM from a Verizon box fit fine?
Nano fits
Regarding chester DNS, does it support ipv6 dns? Like can i set google dns ips with one being ipv4 and other being ipv6?
Not sure
great video Nate! What gains over the Arcadyan KVD21 are you seeing? RSRQ, RSRP and SINR better? Debating on 4x4 MIMO External Antenna vs Chester CAT19-RM520N-GL
2x download improvement. Its not just RSRQ (a function of RSRP/SINR) but the fact that it can aggregate more bands and do 5G SA. Speed tests to come. And antennas.
@@NaterTater sweet! I'm already getting good speeds but being able to control my DNS and other setting like locking a band is huge!
@@superbman101 yes indeed
Thanks Nater Tater. I've got a KVD21in a rural area that has weak but usable signal on N71. I can get 40 down and 20 up a lot of the time. Been like this since December now in July the 5G band is dropping a lot. I was going to get a Waveform 4X4 MIMO but after seeing this I'm wondering getting this Chester device since it has external antenna. I know the external antenna would be better but that comes with some difficult installation issues for me. Have you done any comparisons between the KVD21 internal antenna and the Chesters?
Yes, ruclips.net/video/TeyMAGqRaSI/видео.html the Chester is often much faster due to band locking ability and more carrier aggregation. And easy to add external antennas if needed.
How does this chester router compare to the Cudy 5G router?
Which video has the information on showing what bands I'm on? Using Chester's modem. I watched it once. I need to find it again.
I'm going to play with the bands but I need to see what I'm connected to.
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Nate, does the band locking on this device actually work?? I have had devices in the past that said band locking but didn't actually work.
yes
Happy Easter Nate, you may have answered my question already but I’ve not found it. Are you saying that T-Mobile home internet SIM card can now be used on a 3rd party modem? I have some specific requirements as I run many devices that require a static IP address. Will I be able to utilize a static IP address with one of the devices you have on your channel? At my house, I am able to get nearly 500mbps down and 80 up.
The gateway you use doesnt determine if you get a static public IP. You can achieve that with a VPN or you can purchase a static IP from t-mobile on their business plan.
@@NaterTater thank you. Just to confirm, one is now able to use T Mobiles sim in a third party device?
@Brent McCain the home internet requires the specific instructions in this video. The business 5g internet allows bring your own device as "plug n play".
@@NaterTater thank you
Great information , really appreciate your time and effort you put in. One question ( sure to be asked again) Is the wifi easy to turn off ? Like a simple uncheck on the setup page?
Yes, it is 7:24
Nice way to dance around the IMEI issue.😁
Thanks 😅
;)
I didnt catch the whole show live. basic question, can this just be used as a modem? I'm using a unifi dream machine se router. I'd like to use this an a modem only mode with t-mobile and allow my unifi gear to do all the routing. Also, Did i miss any speed testing? You said its better but can you quantify?
You can def disable Wi-Fi and use the unifi as an AP
I was getting 2x the download speed vs a KVD21 due to the ability to aggregate multiple bands. as you know exact speeds for you depend on many things. example is i was getting 222mbps down on the Chester unit and 110mbps on the kvd21. Big speed test comparison is coming.
Awesome video! Thank you!!
You're welcome!
Awesome idea Nate thanks! How do you find this stuff?
it finds me!
I stumbled across this product, looking for something to replace my GLX750. ZTE Connect-Hub 5G MC8010CA. Would you be able to review it?
So to be sure I'm understanding this tutorial correctly, Will my original t- mobile gateway "sim card" work in this chester? Or do I need to upgrade to the business plan? I would like to just order the Chester and put my sim card in without the hassle of going in to t mobile and getting a new business sim plan
Alfredo at Chester tech repairs can pre-configure it to work with your home internet SIM prior to shipping.
Nate can I essentially turn this into a "modem" (turn off all the wifi , 6 etc.)and connect my current router into this ?
yes and this wont be the last 3rd party device I test... I think many want to do just that.
@@NaterTater on your next video can you please show us with the settings on how to do just that ? I will order this !
@@tolust I'll add it to the list!
@@NaterTater I appreciate it Nate !!
@tolust I haven't forgotten about you. you can use the DMZ setting on the chester router to send all the internet packets "unfiltered' (ie no firewall) to your router and then you can disable wifi radios to get to a dumbed down router. Not a full modem only but for many it will achieve the desired affect. A video may be coming but I have a huge backlog of them to get thru!
Nate, I have a similar modem/router purchased from Suncomm called the O1. Looks like it runs the same firmware. Did you do any particular commands or setup etc to get the router working with T-mobile? Or did yours work by simply putting the SIM card in and possibly setting APN. I’m on the struggle bus to keep mine staying connected without constantly rebooting.
Thanks.
if its boot looping that's not due to APN or SIM settings. Might want to contact your seller or you can see if Chester can help you out chestertechrepairs@gmail.com
@@NaterTater when I said rebooting I meant the modem loses connection, then reestablishes connection repeatedly. Seems to be some sort of authentication issue.
@Adam Moore yes sounds like IMEI lock. See video for info for fixing a corrupt IMEI.
@@NaterTater not that either. I figured it out, the modem in this particular router needs to have IPv6 completely turned off. Including the IPv6 radio button next to IPv6 Setting. I’m going to trouble shoot it further. Interesting honestly…. Maybe I have a bugged firmware.
@@Ranger5250 odd. Thanks for sharing.
Will this work with Televes 130990 Evoka antenna to broadcast T-mobile 5g signal? Interested in the Cheetah for Wi-Fi/5G router/modem combo broadcasting Xfinity Wi-Fi and 5G signal from Televes
Thanks for all the work you put into your videos and the info!
One thing I haven't seen you mention is any device that doesn't have wifi at all. Just a simple 5G gigabit router (more like a simple modem instead of an aio device).
Is there anything like that you can recommend for T-Mobile 5G home or business internet?
I'm not sure I understand, you want just a 5G modem with no router?
@@NaterTater sorry, I updated the comment. Hopefully it makes more sense now.
@@NaterTater basically yes, a 5G modem with no router 👍
Any suggestions for T-Mobile. I live within a few miles line of sight of a 5G ultra capacity Tower.
I'm sure there's something out there but I haven't messed with any 5G capable ones. This Chester 5G unit can have the wifi and DHCP server turned off so its closer to just a modem. I have used the Elsys Amplimax (4G only) that only has an ethernet port but does have router functionality by default: ruclips.net/video/tTrer83xqs8/видео.html
@@NaterTater thanks, I totally get that Wi-Fi can be turned off on the device in this video. I simply don't want to pay for anything I don't need unless there's no other options or the other options are extremely flawed.
I'll probably reach out to my contact at my local electric company/ISP. I don't know how he keeps up with everything that he keeps up with but he may know of a solution and if he does I'll try to remember to come back here and let you know 👍
Great video Nate, is there more information about this router anywhere out there? On their website there is zero information about it.
I'm sure Chester can provide more details
Thanks Nate. I had a 4 LTE sim router on TM using old (no longer available) ONE Plan + $20 per month International plan to stream internet unlimited since 2018. I want the same unlimited streaming and was wondering if you know if the Magenta Max would give me unlimited streaming or would you suggest staying with ONE + International plan?? I got the Chester last week and the ONE Plan + International works fine on 5G. I was getting 25 down and now getting 140 down!!
I'm not sure. Alfredo at Chester Tech Repairs might know.
Nate, Important basic question. Can the Chester RM520N-GL be put into a "modem only" mode? (IE, bye-pass routing). I'm evaluating t-mobile service/equipment. Impressed with speed/performance in my area (780/120MB, reasonable ping times) but must use with my external router and can not use with t-mobile equipment (can not have double NAT, using VLANS and local server that needs external access). Considering Chester only if it can be put into a modem only mode to integrate with current setup. Thanks for your research and information.
Tmobile has CGNAT so you're automatically double NAT on IPV4 and also dont have a static public IPv4 address to be able to access your LAN from the internet. Tmobile business 5g can give you a static IP as can using a VPN service to tunnel thru. But the Chester device does not currently have a full modem only setting.
What is the command to query RSRP? (About 13:30 or so you refer to this.) Following closely with my new Cheetah from Chester...
At+qcainfo see ruclips.net/video/svwZQEuJiss/видео.html
Nater!! First, you rock and thanks for all the great data. Second, I understand that I need a "ninja" or "invisigig" from Chester to have the Cheetah step in place of my Nokia gateway. Is that covered in any of your videos? If not, could you briefly comment on what is involved? Thank you sir!
Hey, you only need 1 of any of those. So just a Cheetah will work great as it has a wifi router built in so its a "gateway". Or you could get a 🥷, Invisagig or other offering but then you might need to added a wifi router if you dont have one.
Hello. How many protocol VPN has this router ?
MHi nate. I was curious why you are all about the peplink when the MOFI5500-5GXeLTE-EM9191 CAT20 LTE + 5G ROUTER is cheaper?
Hi Brad, I'm not all about Peplink. They have some great business level management features and speed bonding/seemless failover but they tend to be a bit behind on 5G. The only Peplink I tested that showed competitive 5G sub-6 speed was Max BR1 5g Pro. The MoFi also underperformed. The fastest was Chester Cheetah but it does lack some of the advanced business features (but has band locking, tower locking and other neat features).
@@NaterTater when you say it underperformed can you elaborate on the areas thereof? also what firmware did you test it on?
@@GottVonKrieg ruclips.net/video/CyZ-KEXn97U/видео.html
Nate I have a T-Mobile NOK 5G21 Gateway Kit, will the SIM card from this T-Mobile Router work with Chester Modem? If so will it need to be reconfigured or work out of the box?
It will work just follow the steps I mention in the vid.
@@NaterTater Thanks, Just order one, sorry I missed the QUALCOMM version, the link went away.
@@renierlong8103 I had a call with ChesterTech: Qualcomm is still in beta and wasn't suppose to be out there for sale.
Is there any difference in speed between the tmobile hole internet vs the metro by tmobile home internet?
yes, metro is throttled. I think 100mbps if I recall right.
I love you videos nate, but I'm still confused about these routers. You directed me to this video from another video I had questions about. With that said, there are company's making these routers for 5g service that use sim cards that cell companies don't allow on third party devices? I understand that there are loop holes with Verizon (Watching your other videos), but I don't want to do anything ilegal. if it is not legal to insert a sim card in these devices, is there an adaptor for the sim card that can keep it outside of the device but still be plugged into it? Or, am I wrong and these are totaly legal?
I'm not a lawyer so I can't provide legal advice, my opinion is nothing I show is illegal. There are aspects that are against the terms of service for some plans. Both Verizon and t-mobile have plans designed for "bring your own device" aka BYOD. They often cost more or have data usage or speed limitations that the home internet plans do not have. I dont know of a sim adapter to keep the sim physically outside of the unit. Great idea though!
@@NaterTater How are you obtaining a SIM for your devices? Is your service throttled or do you have data limitations? What is your advice on how a noob like me should get service for their own device? Thanks again for your responses.
Hi Nate, just found this. Can I use any sim card from a t-mobile phone or do I need to subscribe to the t-mobile home internet and use the sim from a sagecomm?
phone sim should work just fine
@@NaterTater thanks..does it need to be based on the magenta plus plan?
@Blu Yeti Inc no but you'll be limited by whatever plan you have. Ie if you get 50GB high speed 5G then that's what you'll get in the Chester router.
Awesome information Nater, I've been running the Mofi4500 for a few years. I'm running it on visible. I'm locked on B4 and B13. I'm getting ard 35 down and 15 up. I was looking in upgrading to a 5G . I was wondering if it would be worth it? And what's a good cellular router? Thanks
If you have 5G signal then it's definitely worth it! The Chester Cheetah router I show in this video would work well on Visible and you can run 88 TTL.
@@NaterTater awesome, thank you very much for your fast reply. Please stay safe and healthy 🙏
Hello Natertater, I hope all is well. I just purchased the chester cheetah rm520, and I've been very impressed, I'm now getting ard and sometimes over 200dw and ard 15up on B2, B13, and n77 My ping time is between 1 and 2 seconds with the older visible plan. But every once in a while, under a data load, it would disconnect . Then reconnect . Update,,,,I purchased an updated SIM card because my monthly bill was $5 cheaper. Once I put in a new SIM card, I put in APN for the new visible card. My ping time went from 1. To 2 seconds to .50 to .25 ms. Alot faster ping time but the same speed. But I'm Not getting disconnected anymore under a data load. I just thought I would report that information to you. Just received the 4×4 wF. The signal on n77 was weak. Hopefully, the 4x4 will help 5g. Thank you very, very much for helping me and saving me money. Much appreciated. Take care, and God bless. Walt
@@greeniebuzzaa3mr944 very good!
Hey Nate, thanks for the great work you are doing! I work remotely from home as a radiologist and live in a semi-rural area where there is not wired broadband yet. I have to connect my workstation to the hospital I work for via an IPSEC VPN tunnel. There is a hardware device at both ends that creates this tunnel. It does not require a static IP address, but does need to establish this type of tunnel. I'm currently using a fixed wireless ISP in my area for internet, but it has been pretty unreliable. Recently I got the T-Mobile home internet for my household needs. It has performed pretty well with just the Sagemcom gateway and my home MESH wifi network. However, when I hooked up my work equipment to the T-Mobile device, it would not create the VPN tunnel. I'm told that I can't do that on the T-Mobile home internet. Is that a limitation of the Sagemcom gateway or the T-Mobile tower/network? I'm wondering the Chester device you reviewed in this video would allow me to get that tunnel built over the T-Mobile connection. I guess I would have to get a business account to get a SIM card for the Chester device.
Hi Daniel, IPSEC VPN is one of the harder things to get to work. SSL VPN's are mostly all working now on TMHI. Do you have your VPN device plug into the Sagemcom directly or into your mesh system? Try both if you haven't. Also if your mesh system has an IPv6 passthrough enable it. There's a few more things to try but let me know about these.
@@NaterTater Thanks Nate. Yes, I connected my VPN device directly to the Sagemcom device and it didn't work. I did not try to do it over my Mesh system. I'm quite sure that wouldn't have worked.
@Daniel Fullmer you might be able to host your own VPN on your mesh system and have your work VPN hooked to that. Your work IPSEC VPN would effectively go thru your personal SSL VPN to get out of the tmobile network constraints. It would slow things down but if you're just doing it to access charts/images and need it for HIPPA then that shouldnt matter. It might not work well for live video conferencing.
Yes. You can't do that with T-Mobile. Or several others.
I have this same device purchased from a company called Net Buddy. You are mistaken about the antennas. The antennas on either side are for the mimo cell network, the four antennas on the back are for the WiFi service. This has been a fairly reliable router for me, but I am very disappointed because there seems no way to enable passthrough. I have a pfSense router behind it, and doing the double NAT is not optimum. I wish future firmware would enable pass through mode. But, thanks for your videos, you are much more aware than anyone else I have found.
Hi Wilbur, this is not a net buddy. They may have similar or even the same housing but this is a different unit and indeed I mention the antenna locations correctly.
@@NaterTater Understood, and apologize for my mistake. However your Chester looks identical to my Netbudy, both say %G CPE, and they both have identical firmware. I stepped through my "mesh" firmware settings as you went through the ones on your Chester device. Each and every option is identical. Even when I executed the AT command as you did, my results were same as yours. Again, I apologize for the allegation. I do appreciate your videos, and acknowledge that you are one of the most aware I have observed regarding cellular gateway devices.
If I plan to use a regular T-Mobile data SIM card (not a T-Mobile Home Internet SIM card) is that still throttled by CGNAT? And couldn't the TTL setting be configured to essentially "mask" that data line to be used for data only (like a cell phone) and not hotspot data?
Yes still on CGNAT but TMHI isnt throttled, just deprioritized. Phone SIM would have higher priority and yes to TTL question.
Hi Nate, I ordered the Cheetah 5G router and just got it. Now I am trying to decide which service provider to use, I will use it as my RV Mobile internet router, can I get a iPad nano-SIM card and insert it or I need to buy a "home internet" plan? I currently have Verizon, and T-mobile does not offer home internet where I live. Any recommendations are welcome.
And thanks for the $45 + free shipping, it helped!
Most services should work, you should touch base with Chester Tech Repairs for best advice on SIM selection.
mr natertater, in process of buying this unit ,i have t mobile do you recommend this router interweb box?im wooded and going to purhase the 4x4 wave outdoor antenna, i get 2 cell phone bar now,my t mobile box goes from morning 17mpbs down by nite to 2mbps. i have att phone dsl 6 mbps. i need this upgrade to work lol ,what do you think?
yes this unit does work well. antennas are easy to add to it and as always with signal antenna placement and type are key to performance.
@@NaterTater how does the unit i bought stack up to the cudy p5 rm520n-gl model 5g sa/nsa ax3000 wifi 6 ?
Can I put another SIM card in tmobiles gateway router?
why would you want to? they are so limited.
So I can just put in my T-Mobile Home Internet Gateway sim into the device and it’ll work?
No, must follow instructions on this video
Does this require a business acct to swap sims?
Love the router speeds went from max 340 to around 660 at night but the wireless is really bad can't pick it up more than 20 feet from the router
Great speeds! Interesting on wifi, I didnt notice that during standalone testing but I typically have my gateways hooked up to my Asus AiMesh setup for wifi coverage.
@@NaterTater I wonder if someone has tried different antennas for the wifi
@@socalfishing3121 yes, it should accept any SMA wifi antenna. Is 2.4ghz not traveling far either? Have you checked the wifi settings to make sure nothing is amiss?
After watching your videos I purchased this router I have gone from about 3mbps to about 30 and I am waiting on my 4x4 mimo to come in so hopefully that will make it even better... I have T-Mobile home internet ... and also have T-Mobile cell service... but every time I connect my cell to wifi it goes into SOS mode now that I have this router ... can you direct me to a video that cover this issue?
I think Alfredo at Chester Tech Repairs got you all squared away right?
I thought he did, it worked for a few minutes but then right back to sos.... I have put the AT command he gave me in a few times..always the same result it eventually kicks us back to sos on our phones @@NaterTater
question i have the sdx55 the v1 modem and wifi calling sometimes doesnt work with tmobile home internet do you know the at commands to fix that issue?
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Mr tater did you use the t-mobile sim from the Arcadian KVD21
which gateway doesn't matter. all the same SIM
Nater, trying to understand this stuff, just wanted a fast reliable system that can swap cell carriers for home internet since my broadband sucks in Miami Beach, thinking Verizon would be the best sim to start with, want access to towers further away, want access to different sim carriers if verizon doesnt work well, thinking these routers are better than the verizon or tmobile ones they give you when you get home internet, even heard of some companies that you can pay for service, they send you a router & it "automatically" switches between the best signals with the carriers, any way, can you give me some direction, i assume 5g is here with every carrier where i live but my neighbor has tmobile & its a bit flaky
Most any SIM or carrier can work on these routers. If you email or chat with Chester Tech Repairs he can preconfigure the router and I think even get you hooked up with a SIM/ plan.
purchased 1/17/23 when will it ship,i like amazon 2 day lmao.
Hope everything is going great. This is mister mopar here
Can I use the T-Mobile 5G modem with other SIM card . Or can it be unlocked .
You probably could with other sims that work on t-mobile (maybe). But the gateways are very locked down and you'd be way better off using another gateway.
Hello!! can I use this router for live-streaming ??
Yes
@@NaterTater and last cuestión: Accept AT&T SIM card?
@@wacfilms1 yes
did any of the other 5G routers you have tested have a similar "IMEI revise" feature or is that exclusive to chester
The peplinks do not but there are other options out there. Making a video on one soon.
@@NaterTater that would be awesome. I'm very rural and on the edge of TMHI coverage area. Tmobile upped N41 in my area and my trashcan grabbed it but I get NO INTERNET on any of my devices when connected to N41 here. Struggled with tech support for almost a week and ultimately climbed out on the roof and tried pointing my waveform 4x4 panel away from the tower (pointed down at my roof - lol) and sure enough at least back on N71 but with worse metrics - but at least connected. So looking for something to keep me off of N41 for now but keep my antenna pointed in the right direction.
Not sure if there is any other way to accomplish this in the short run but looking for options.
Thanks for all that you do to help us out here!!
@@sp333yt i am having this exact same issue. i get 2 bars and zero internet when connected to N41. our internet went from 250 down 30 up to page timeouts and us having to use phone hotspots. if you find a fix without buying a $500 device, please let me know.
Hi i have zte mc888 router with option of 5g sa but it doesn't work only works with 5nsa I use vodafone and I do have 5g sa coverage in my area when I spoke with vodafone they told me it only works for some ceartan mobile phones do you know how to go around it and make it work or do I need different router to make it work if possible? I live in UK thank you for your help and time have a nice day
It's likely tied to just certain modems. Like sdx62 and sdx65 ones.
Nate, I hate to bother you with such a simple question but I have the Tmoble 4G lite grey moden/router and no matter where I put it in my home I still can't get a decent enough signal to get even 20mpbs download speeds, when I first got it, I was getting around 25-30mpbs but now I can barely get 5-10mpbs if I am lucky. I bought a signal booster with a yagi antenna and I could lock onto a tower and get 50mpbs download and my uploads skyrocketed to around 20mpbs but after a few minutes it wouldn't stay locked on and I lost all signal. I receive multiple warnings from my online bank account, etc. almost every day that someone is logging onto my account from a different location and IP address and so I investigated and found that Tmobile was logging me in from all these different locations so I called Tmobile about this and they claim that is is their standard practice to use the best antenna location at the time so it will vary but I don't buy that BS, especially since I now have practically no signal and can't seem to get my antenna set on a tower. I just ordered an omnidirectionl antenna since it seems to me that Tmobile is somehow piggybacking off other towers or something fishy. My antenna mast is 25 feet high which should have been more than sufficient for me to get a good lock on a Tmobile tower but I find these tower maps a bit hard to read but I do at least get the gist of it and can see which are emitting my band for Tmobile and where they are. I guess I am asking what is the best thing for me to do since I have already spend a few hundred dollars not to mention the monthly Tmobile fee. Actually, counting the mast, I have spent about $1,000 and a lot of work for no results. Can you give me any advice ? Am I doing something wrong or is it Tmobile sticking it to me? I would change to Verizon immediately (Verizon towers everywhere around me) but their top package is $100/month with I think a 5G data cap which is no good for me cause I work from home on the internet. Please give me some advice. I know you are super busy but I am desperate.
T-mobile does move your public IP around so that is what confuses your online bank. You should try a 3rd party 5g router. Or Verizon's 5G Home internet plan is $50/mo, delivers 300/20mbps of unlimited data.
I didn't understand at all how this device would just work if I put in a T-mobile home internet nano SIM. You talked about IMEI lock, so how could it possibly work?
See the other comments or contact the seller.
Hi Nate! Love the videos... very informative.
I've had T-Mobile home internet for about a week now testing. They sent me a refurbished Nokia gateway. The main problem I'm having is that the unit drops connection for several seconds from time to time. The screen on the Nokia shows it's connected but I get a "no internet" message on the computer. Likewise the readings on the mobile app go blank on the Advanced cellular metrics screen, than come back after a few seconds.
In your opinion could something like the Chester fix this?
Thanks!
Absolutely. The gateways they provide have serious limitations and issues.
Just got an email they were back in stock and ordered the Chester! Thanks again!