Get 5X Faster Internet from T-Mobile - Same Bill! Waveform Antenna
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- Опубликовано: 10 май 2024
- My secret for getting near GIGABIT Internet speeds with TMobile Home Internet without paying more per month. Works for me for rural off-grid internet in the middle of nowhere using Waveform Quad Pro & Mini 4x4 Antennas
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What do you do for wireless internet? Quad Mini: amzn.to/4ati2ms (best deal) Quad Pro: amzn.to/3xF1OI8 / If you watch my other videos I also use Starlink, which is great but TMobile shown here is faster & I use both of them with a multi wan router. Starlink was not part of any of this shown in the video. You can use this alone, or do what i am by combining both for redundancy & greater speed.
Now I know why my t-mobile phone can barely get a signal anywhere. This guy is using it all.
haha
Asking a person with a bad personality to talk louder 😂💀
"Don't live liked this" showed 240 down and 7 up (with a 23ms ping). A year ago, the best I could get was 15 down and 1 up (two of us worked from home during Covid with that connection and we made it work.). I would have killed for "Don't live like this".
Then T-Mobile became available. Now I get 300 down and 80 up. I'm still on a high.
A few weeks ago, fiber became available. Damn, all these years with crappy internet and now I'm in heaven.
You must be “living like a gigillionaire” according to the recent AT&T ads. 😎
@@ronsamborski6230 AT&T: oops, we lost your personal data! ™
Thanks for the shout out for my gateway disassembly video! Great video and informative channel.
Thanks Nate, you have awesome videos.
I ordered the TMO-G4AR 5G Gateway based on your review.
I used an older model from waveform for 2 years with my AT&T AWI and sprint hotspot. Total game changer.
Thats great to hear. I would never have believed these antennas can have such an impact.
I have the new T-mobile white router and ordered the Quad Mini to test on an RV setup. Haven't found much info on how it works for those on the go. Can't wait to see if this antenna helps! Thanks for the vid.
Thanks for this review my mom is considering getting T-mobile wireless service, but lives in a rural area & I wasn't sure there was a way to boost the signal speed.
Excellent info. Thanks for sharing
I really appreciate that, thank you.
We tried the att air, and it has been amazing. 35 a month for 5g speeds like our phones. Looked at reviews and was skeptical but so far it’s been great (knock on wood)
ISP's hate this one simple trick
Damn, I might use that! Better than my title.
@@SilverCymbal lol go for it. From one NH IT guy to another. Always enjoy your content
The T-Mobile App has a tower finder feature that lets you use the camera as a starting point for fine tuning antenna placement, at least for iOS.
In the T-Mobile app navigate under Home > Connection quality > More about connection quality > Launch placement assistant > OK, Let's do this > Skip video > Share location
You'll eventually get to a an interactive tower finder.
Wow, great info I have to check that out for sure. Thanks for sharing thius
While you can use the app, there's nothing better than actually turning the antenna in a compete circle in 45 degree increments to find the best signal. Sometimes due to signal bouncing off building, trees, or hills you may get a better signal when aiming just a little off from the tower.
I use an app, network cell info lite, and i can pull up a map thatll show me where and what cell towers are in my area and that i primarily and secondarily ping too.
So you dont necessarily need to manually check directionality like you showed in the video.
I too am off grid, and this kind of info is vital.
Im not affiliated btw, just throwing it out there if it could help anyone else
The newer, white T-Mobile gateway I got last month has external threaded ports for these antennas. it's a beefier unit than the black one I had that was failing intermittently. They upgraded me for five dollars plus tax. It's 5g only.
Great video, I might try the smaller one on my Verizon just to see how well it improves my signal which right now is 300 down and 20 up
I think you will love it. As I type this right now, I am using the small one, its a great boost
i wish i could do this with mine since i get around 300 down and 30 up but i have the black modem plus its only used for a back up when xfinity goes down
I use the Network Cell Info app and the Map tab draws a line to the cell tower that I'm connected to. It's been very useful.
What happened to your starlink setup?
I was able to get T-Mobile to send me a TMO-G4AR 5G Gateway. Therefore I did not have to open the box or do anything special. I am already getting 431 Mbps down and 39.8 Mbps up with the original box. I ordered an external antenna to see how it changes my reception. In my case, I am planning to get rid of my cable service which only gives me 100 down and 5.3 up for twice the money. Thanks for the post.
Like you said with boosters, it just amplifies a bad signal much of the time. But could we use this much better directional antenna to go into a booster to send good cell signal into a house?
edit: Seems that Waveform actually sells a kit like this that just goes parallel into multiple Go X cell boosters to take advantage of the MIMO.
Yes its a similar process and I believe they sell those on their web site. I have never tried them myself, not home ones anyway but many people say they are very good to use
I live a little over a mile from a TMO tower and get 400-500 down and 100 up with my TMO internet using indoor antenna on 2nd floor near window facing tower.
That are still great rates but you might try taking it outside and see what difference it makes. If its much higher than you can be sure to benefit from the antenna.
@@SilverCymbal I might try this. As I wasn’t the tmo unit in my basement distribution center.
Couple of questions. First, what is your latency? Second, if the small antenna can be used indoors with decent results, why not use the big antenna indoors?
Verizon limits their speeds to 300Mbps down and 20Mbps up unless you're in a UWB area. Improving the signal isn't going to help with them.
T-Mobile does have some incredible speeds assuming the tower is not overloaded. I would assume that it still requires line of sight of the tower without something like a hill in the path?
Would this help with getting better reception and less dropped calls in a building? In Canada with multiple different carriers?
I've had T-Mobile internet once. It worked well and I enjoyed it. Does your area you're in actually qualify for the internet or did you have to do a hack to get it? The area I'm moving to says they don't have it but it is available 1 mi away. 🤔🙄 My thought is getting the service at my current address and then just bringing the equipment to my new address.
How did they not give you the modem that has built in external antenna support O-o
The thing that still turns me off is data prioritization where they will slow you down if demand is high for cell phones that are connected to said tower.
Antennas only help if your signal isn't great at ground level and in the house. If you put one up high in a pole it'll get better signal and higher potential speeds but it's not guaranteed.
He is using a line of sight antenna which will guarantee faster speeds
If you have a T-Mobile phone you also put it in field test mode to check T-Mobile signals.
What information should one look at in field test mode?
@@DadeMadeMe Signal strength. It's usually measured in dBm
Very nice video 😊😊
Tmobile website says my address is in 5G Extended. However, when I check Home Internet Availability, it says not available. Thoughts as to why this would be? Is this an overall capacity issue and they're just not ready to offer Home Internet Services? (I am not a tmobile customer today)
Afaik... they only allow a certain number of their wireless internet per area. I'd also imagine the connections are different than a 5g phone co sectionn.
hey i couldnt get it in my area either ended up using my grandmother address. and surprised that it was available in her area. ordered one and they shipped it right to her house. took it home and it works wonderful.
How well does this work with streaming services like Netflix,etc?
Amazing, my kids do games, multiple streams going, it is very good. Amazing really. I can't believe that ATT and Verizon have still not quit caught up to T-Mobile with this
@@SilverCymbal interesting, I'll have to check it out!
I just tried out the waveform quad mini and I seemed to get slower speed compared to the internal antenna. Mind, I don’t need an external antenna anyways since i live 3 towers. Just wanted the ultimate best reliable connection since I canceled my cable service indefinitely. With the waveform I didn’t get any better connection surprisingly, I got more noise, less download and upload speeds.
I'm just thinking through some troubleshooting steps. Have you tested all different directions to see which produced the best signal.
The waveform is directional, only gets 1 tower. Get a omni directional antenne. Boost the signal in 360°
@@youtubereview8176 yes I tried every corner of my home, no luck. I really need it in the front so I can connect my Xbox series X via Ethernet. I’m getting 850mbps at 3am 400-500 during the day.., that was tested directly through the Xbox network section.
@@youtubereview8176 thank you for asking, I ran multiple speed tests and wrote them down. Out of 6 tests internal and external, the waveform gave me slower upload speeds really, and more packet loss % then the internal antenna. I was very disappointed, but I really only bought it TO test it out and see if there was a big difference.
@@uszouszo4316 Next I’ll be purchasing a 5G SA modem/router. Something that can band lock and connect to two 5G bands rather then 4G LTE and 1 5G band
I live in rural area and right now best internet I can get is Verizon LTE. My speed is limited to 50 download and less than 5 upload. I'd love to get those high speeds; is anything like this available for Verizon?
Verizon is tough. Some areas have their home internet and heard its fantastic but its really limited where they offer it. Can only check their coverage map but overall Verizon seems stuck in the old billing ways
"Look at these upload speeds, they're terrible." Lol, yeah that's what I get with AT&T in a major city thanks AT&T DSL. And I checked, T-Mobile 5G aint here yet either why you gotta give me hope with this video.
There's a reason why they make outdoor 5G CPEs. Much nicer than faffing around with antennas and cable loss. Buy the right equipment from the start.
Does this work for 5G in Europe? For a huawei modem, looks almost similar
Im sure an antenna would work for sure on the same principle. But I would contact waveform and see what model or frequencies you need if they have one. www.waveform.com
@@SilverCymbal thank you!
How do you hook it up to the newer gateway?
It just screws in, as it has ports for extrernal antennas. Super easy for that model
I need this but for tmobiles 5G Data, I get 15down and 0.10up inside my home
0:04 😳
So when T mobile will start to limit speed?
Does this work with any internet provider or just a select few?
It can work with the ATT, Peplink, TMobile and Verizon Routers. There may be more but its good for the big ones.
@@SilverCymbal that sucks for me, I think my ISP, CenturyLink, won't qualify😩
What can I do if I'm getting decent download speeds but like 0.40 upload speeds with the waveform antenna?
I would double check all connections and if you haven't alrready repeat the same test, and I know its a pain but if you dont do the test outside you will not get good results. From there try to fine tune the location and even up and down could help also.
@SilverCymbal ill keep trying different spots but the only change is in the download speed but nothing on the upload. Also my antenna is on the roof of the house and I'm also using a TP-Link Deco for a boost.
Is there a way to use an antenne to boost mobile data speeds?
Yes, if you need it while i motion you would have to use an ominidirectiona, I think they sell those as well. Those can take the wind of movement and still get you outside the vehicle
What is your ping on that?
Does this work with AT&T fiber?
Would this work for improving cell phone coverage and eliminating dropped calls with multiple carriers inside a building?
You can get a new T Mobile router that has antenna mounts on the outside. I would return that old one you have.
Unfortunately they don't seem to do it that easily or at least not when I tried but I probably should again as the ports externally are much easier on that new model.
@@SilverCymbal I use mine for RV travel. I am debating on mounting the big antenna on the roof or getting the mini for inside at a window.
@@myriadcorp The mini is priced right, at least for now at $119, I would try it and if you get good results, which I can't see how you wouldn't you can always upgrtade later but the little one performs really well but if you are super super far from towers the bigger might be better. You could always rig up a pole, this way you can quicky rotate it, get the best signal, tighten it up and go from there. Butthe window is very easy for sure.
@@myriadcorp Just remember, you can't go under the 11ft8in bridge in North Carolina. (yes, it's now 12'4"). If you've not seen the bridge, do a search here on YT for it and you will see all sorts of box trucks, moving vans, and the occasional rv get a haircut when they try to go under the railroad overpass. Just be sure to do the search when you have some time to quote unquote waste while you watch them. Enjoy.
Next video: installing my own fiber 😎
Tmobile now has data caps at 1.2 tb
For some reason T-mobile wont even activate my box that they sold me...
So I have had the box u currently do because some one else had one
They don't sell the box they give you the box you pay for the service
Off grid or on grid T-Mobile should only be selling Internet modems that have the external antenna plug-ins it’s the game changer and it’s what we’re all looking for the customer is always right and we want the cans with the ability to add an external antenna. It’s a no-brainer. It should’ve been done from day one
I totally agree, this has always been weird even from pocket cell routers. Some have it and some don't. T-Mobiles new router does have it, but the router now seems to be in short supply. Definitely far from perfect but at least the same antenna works with all of them
@@SilverCymbal short supply made in China explains everything
They lost more people than they’re letting on
Absolutely perfer t mobile internet over anything else verizon at&t charter spectrum so much faster
If you are 14 miiles from the tower, does T-Mobile officially provide 5g service in your area? I have towers closer than that and they tell me 5g isn't available in my area. I have Pure Talk cell service (AT&T towers) and I get 5g cell service, although it's pretty weak.
They told me it wasn't available in my area and I said " Sure it is , my neighbor has it" the rep then set up my new account. My neighbor does not have it but they didn't really care.
@@jodieadair How has it been working?
@@youtubereview8176 It has been great for 2+ years now. I am not getting insane speeds but it is miles ahead of anything else available here. I get 100-200 mbps.
Actually the older boosters were awesome until Obummer with his pen and phone regulated them from 3 watts down to 1 watt. My old Wilson 3 watt would hit a cell tower 50 miles away. The newer ones at 1 watt is only enough to tease.
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id like to do this but i dont want to pay 380$ for breaking tmobiles mobile internet box
huh interesting
No way you are 14 miles from cell tower
$400 for the pro...across a year, that's $33 extra a month.
Nice area you live in. Wanna trade areas in America? I’m in Pasadena Texas ( Meskidena Texico )
Terrible for gaming and the data isnt prioritize
Taking someone with a bad personality and asking them to talk louder!
I want to try their Internet but the last time I had it it was horrible and that was three years ago
I don't know if you don't understand how it works or you are just trying to be dramatic... when you request a page, as in like entering a website address or searching in google you are sending a tiny tiny bit of data. 7mbps is plenty fast for that... How quickly we forget that not so long ago a T1 line was HUGE, and that was 1mbps.
You do realize that with cloud based apps & services which many of us have on our phones, tablets, laptops, that relatively large data is being sent on the upstream side of your internet connection day and night. You are in that Zoom call and all the video and audio of you has to go up. You take photos or 4K videos and they start uploading to the cloud. You make a change to that large file that’s being synced to the cloud, and they go up. You have a couple of computers that back up to the cloud on a nightly basis, that data goes up. It makes upstream speeds more important than people realize, especially when you live rurally like we do. I have Starlink as my main internet which only does about 10Mbps upstream on a good day, and T-Mobile as a failover.
Did you mount it on your radio tower? And did you get rid of Starlink?
No, I still have Starlink. The antenna for T< is just on the side of my house. I will be doing a router video as sadly my tplink gear had some unexpected issues. I will be showing what I installed shortly and what its doing. While it wasn't part of my tests, I have 1 tomobile and 1 starlink coming into the router now. The TM is much faster than Starlink though and better latency too. I still keep it as TM went down here during a storm and Starlink kept us going
@@SilverCymbal, It's really good to point out to viewers that TM went down during a storm. Did your connection drop out entirely, or did the speeds decrease? How long approximately was it out for? Do you think the cell signal it was diminished because of the heavy rain?
@@youtubereview8176 No this one was very unusual. Suddenly I stared getting super slow speeds, maybe 6 meg down with .5 up, I was rebooting routers, etc. We had lost power but cell towers always have generators. then I determined the tower's generator must have failed and I was connecting to the new tower, who only knows how far away! The next day they must have fixed the power for the tower and like magic it was back,
@@youtubereview8176 No it was a power outage at the cell tower, it was their generator failed. I ended up connected to another tower very far from here, I only got like 5 meg down and 1 up, so bad. They restored power the next day
I have the Quad Pro, I can't get over 100Mbit. I think the problem is my local towers are over subscribed. I'm looking at rural property and with just my phone I can hit 300Mbit with towers about the same distance away.
I would definitely do the table test,. Its a pain but when you hit the right spot you will be glad you did. These are semi-directional but even 20 degrees off can steal a lot of speed. I spent two hours doing each test twice and finally used the compass in my phone so I knew the exact direction. It can really be worth it. I hope this can help.
It might be capped at 100 Mbps. Mine is.