Step by Step 4 COLOR SCREEN PRINT REGISTRATION on a Cheap T Shirt Printing Press / T-shirt business.

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  • @timpike1976
    @timpike1976 3 года назад +171

    I started out with one just like that, used. Gave $350 for the press, flash dryer, 50 screens, squeegees, inks and chemicals. After about 3 months I had made enough to upgrade to a 4/4 Vastex and get a belt drier, about a year later I quit my day job and went full time on my business. I can't think of another business I could have started with such a small initial investment.

    • @Chillinghard
      @Chillinghard 2 года назад +2

      that was great deal

    • @Rain-di2bq
      @Rain-di2bq 2 года назад

      What kind of work where you doing in the begging? Thinking about entering the Etsy scene

    • @timpike1976
      @timpike1976 2 года назад +2

      @@Rain-di2bq I was doing mostly 1 or 2 color jobs, without tight registration, because the press had now micro-registration I would take orders I couldn't print too, but I outsourced them to a contract printer. Good luck with your venture!

    • @juanskarlos
      @juanskarlos 2 года назад

      Good deal, where did you get it?

    • @timpike1976
      @timpike1976 2 года назад +1

      @@juanskarlos I found it locally on Craig's List. The guy had been printing as a sideline but he was getting out of it.

  • @scottca9780
    @scottca9780 4 года назад +69

    This looks like a good bit of equipment to learn on, providing what you want to learn is metalwork, welding and advanced swearing.

  • @ThePrintLife
    @ThePrintLife  5 лет назад +29

    What up Familia? Forgot to mention a couple of things in the video. First I filmed through the day. It didn't take all day to set up a job. I think the total time registering the job was about an hour. Second, I forgot to mention the print head height can be adjusted. No tilt but height is adjustable. If you are looking for a good entry level press get the Anatol Tornado, Vastex 1000, M&R Cruiser, and so on.

    • @adamzamora5089
      @adamzamora5089 5 лет назад +1

      Hey Cam. How can I figure out the height for the off contact?

    • @manakahas4927
      @manakahas4927 5 лет назад +4

      You know how thick a quarter is? About that thickness of off contact should be ok for starts.

    • @ThePrintLife
      @ThePrintLife  5 лет назад +4

      @@manakahas4927 Exactly!

    • @adamzamora5089
      @adamzamora5089 5 лет назад +1

      Thanks guys

    • @precisionrepair
      @precisionrepair 4 года назад +1

      What would be a right budget for entry level press ? Rather avoid a headache with $200 blue nightmare press and spend a lil more

  • @CREEPLAIR
    @CREEPLAIR Месяц назад +1

    Those are pillow block bearings I believe.
    I came here to see if this press had micro-registration or not.
    I think I can make it work.
    Enjoyed the video thanks.

  • @vlogfamous8049
    @vlogfamous8049 5 лет назад +8

    This is the first multi-color video on that Chinese press! Thanks a million Cam..

    • @ThePrintLife
      @ThePrintLife  5 лет назад +1

      Sick with it. Finaly an original video.

  • @grabshow
    @grabshow 4 года назад +76

    Hi all, a quick solution to the screen moving when you tighten up the securing screws is to have a sheet of metal that spans the length of the two screws. So the metal strip will sit on top of your screen and under the screws and get tightened against the screen frame. I have found this to stop the screen frame moving when closing it in. Hope this info helps.

    • @steveroberts3637
      @steveroberts3637 3 года назад +2

      Use a thin piece of wood, or even masking tape, so the clamps don't move the screens when tightening.👌

    • @rmunoz5439
      @rmunoz5439 3 года назад

      Anyway you can attach a picture of the metal piece and how you use it to to equally level the screen

    • @saul4691
      @saul4691 3 года назад

      I did just that and that crap still moves

    • @cultivartegallery3400
      @cultivartegallery3400 4 месяца назад

      I would use card stock or a thick paper like mat board

  • @avancerartgroup1614
    @avancerartgroup1614 5 лет назад +119

    I use that exact press. I didnt use a wrench to bend down the receivers, I just adjusted the shirt platten. No issues once I did that. I have been makin some cash with that little blue P.O.S.... LOL

    • @vlogfamous8049
      @vlogfamous8049 5 лет назад +8

      Lol make a video

    • @TmoneyTheUce
      @TmoneyTheUce 5 лет назад +14

      Avancer Art Group man i just got mine. The guys like us can get to the big dawg machines but we will get there and ima keep lil blue forEvER

    • @avancerartgroup1614
      @avancerartgroup1614 5 лет назад +22

      @@TmoneyTheUce exaaaaactly! Maaaaan listen you gotta crawl before you walk/run. The best part about that press is that so many things can go wrong with it that you will become a wiz at trouble shooting once you move up to the "real" press machines!

    • @barnavah
      @barnavah 5 лет назад +1

      I do the same thing

    • @ThePrintLife
      @ThePrintLife  5 лет назад +18

      Yea dude bending the thing was fuckery at its finest. Thats why that press pisses me off 3 of the 4 colors had a perfect angle to the pallet. That last one had to be man handled.

  • @joshdyer25
    @joshdyer25 4 года назад +10

    Cam! I really love all your videos, but I can't believe you made this one.... and in a really good way. I bought this exact same press a year ago and it's taken me about that time to "dial" it in for single colors. Lol. You're the man. I never expected someone to use this press that a) knows what they're doing and b) has skills with production. I really appreciate you making this video.

  • @jamesjordan4323
    @jamesjordan4323 Год назад +2

    One way to prevent your screen from moving after lining it up with your registration marks is to use some spring clamps or grip clamps to hold the screen down to the platen and then tighten the screen down with the nobs. This will not work if the screen is wider than the platen. I purchased this press as a stepping stone to learn the trade. You have to do a lot to make it work. I have never tried 4 colors before but I will give it a shot. If I fail, then I fail LOL!

  • @meekBASE
    @meekBASE 3 года назад +11

    you did a good job of explaining how to deal with that registration issue .. I’ve been printing for 15 years and that is something that even the most experienced person will run into but being able to trouble shoot is the key to screen printing there’s ALWAYS gonna be something relatively SMALL that will make a HUGE difference in your final product & it’s important to learn how to deal with it before you even start running the job

    • @daysgo5514
      @daysgo5514 Год назад

      he also used an unnessarily high mesh that made the print look awfully grainy, im guessing he used water based inks because the print looked de-saturated

  • @joshmiller6414
    @joshmiller6414 4 года назад +4

    My goodness. I feel validated haha. I have this press and wow what a pain in the bum it can be. I feel like people who learn on this and similar presses should get recognition for their patience and dedication because it’s a struggle. That being said, I was able to pull a five color graphic on this thing mixing colors from two of the screens in certain spots on the shirt. It was nothing short of a miracle. Thanks for the video and happy printing.

  • @snakebitegraphics1005
    @snakebitegraphics1005 5 лет назад +47

    I started with that EXACT press ... And i learned to print on it THE HARD way ... countless hours fighting the equipment instead of printing and wasting countless dollars on garments and ink ... when i was new just like everyone else it was hard to put up the kind of cash to get a professional press... THIS IS NOT WHERE YOU WANT TO CUT YOUR BUDGET!!!! I printed with that blue nightmare for 14 months ... I actually printed a lot of jobs on it only after I seriously modified the press. I was a pipe fitter and welder and had the tools and knowledge to get it to some kind of standard. Straight out of the box for a new printer with little to no knowledge this will put you in the crazy house!!! can it be done? yes.... but take it from a guy who's been there, if you want to screen print start with the right press.... you can get away with lots of other things and like in this video you CAN get away with that cheap press too... but you want to smile when your job are complete... not just be happy they are done.

    • @ThePrintLife
      @ThePrintLife  5 лет назад +13

      Couldn't have said it better myself and I tried to say it better.

    • @avangardaulice
      @avangardaulice 5 лет назад +1

      Same story...

    • @philipbowles7677
      @philipbowles7677 4 года назад +15

      So what press would you recommend for someone new who doesn't have a huge budget that wants to avoid these problems you mentioned?

    • @nathanslack9860
      @nathanslack9860 4 года назад +1

      same story

    • @ADVlife287
      @ADVlife287 4 года назад +1

      Thank you for the feedback. Just cancelled my order of this machine. Going to look at something like the Riley Hopkins press

  • @MariaAltmann
    @MariaAltmann 5 лет назад +5

    Was great to see a Professional try & use this Blue Press Carn. As a Newbie, you identified every issue I was having myself with the registration AND your hints and struggles have assisted me tremendously. Thank You. Great job Carn. Adore you energy and goodwill. Love your channel.

    • @ThePrintLife
      @ThePrintLife  5 лет назад +2

      No problem. It is not a terrible press not great either but it is possible to get a job done with it.

    • @MariaAltmann
      @MariaAltmann 4 года назад

      Agree : -)

  • @satoumilk3548
    @satoumilk3548 5 лет назад +1

    I currently have this press. It's been such a pain is thea ss, but has gotten me by. I was finally approved for a loan and bought myself a 6/4 Vaztex 1000. Still waiting for it to arrive but I'm so excited. Finally I won't be killing myself a week straight to just get 250 shirts printed! Work smart, not hard.

    • @ThePrintLife
      @ThePrintLife  5 лет назад +1

      Oh yes that v1000 is great I had 2 of them for live printing back in the day.

  • @minorthreads4844
    @minorthreads4844 4 года назад +5

    never used one of these presses but years ago when having issues with metal frames moving, we would put a piece of masking tape on the frame. this mitigated the movement from tightening the clamps.

  • @keithbartels9571
    @keithbartels9571 4 года назад +1

    I bought this unit used when I was getting back into the business. Not bad for one or two color jobs. I guess all those hours using this unit, I am really gonna appreciate when I get a new press.

  • @oniros80
    @oniros80 3 года назад +8

    Hoping to start a little print operation of my own within the year. You're content is really helping me build confidence in this possibly working out. Thank you and please keep up the great work. Just telling it like it is really helps alleviate some of the unknown and understanding that this is a "work at it" kind of skill. Not a set it and forget it.

  • @imJayHendrixx
    @imJayHendrixx 3 года назад

    I have this same printer am I able to add three other stations ?

  • @ClareGreenan
    @ClareGreenan 5 лет назад +13

    Wow thank you so much for this video!! Super super helpful. Screen printing is kind of intimidating so it's nice to have so many tips!

    • @ClareGreenan
      @ClareGreenan 5 лет назад +1

      Saving me from tons of stress😅

    • @ThePrintLife
      @ThePrintLife  5 лет назад +2

      Your welcome. Setting up wasn't to bad. Filming it was the toughest and most time consuming part. Thank you for commenting Clare. You Rule!

  • @JestuurJay
    @JestuurJay 5 лет назад +1

    I have this press... one gotcha I discovered on my last job was the middle bolt... it came loose so I was getting play while trying to register points during a job. Tightened it, problem solved. I agree, is it great.. no! Does it work.. yes. Can beat price point unless you have lots of money.
    Thanks for the video, learned a couple little things to help with future jobs.

    • @ThePrintLife
      @ThePrintLife  5 лет назад

      Thanks for the tips and for leaving a comment. I assembled the presses in a rush and the most prominent thing was how every attachment point has play. I had to nudge and bump every damn bolt on the press. I could not include it all or the video would have been 1hr long.

  • @SuperBoxxie
    @SuperBoxxie 5 лет назад +2

    haha started with that exact press too, paid extra for the extra arm too. the platens that came with it were cut wonky so had to make my own.
    also hand to wrap tape round all 4 arms to get them to slot into those rollers without moving as no matter what i did to the rollers they wouldn't stay where needed. got to the point where i just gave up and outsourced any jobs that were more than 1 colour! finally upgraded last year and now back to doing it all in house

    • @ThePrintLife
      @ThePrintLife  5 лет назад +1

      Exactly its great for 1 color jobs, multi color can be done but ong runs would be tough. Smart that you outsourced the work, that seems to be the trick to starting a small shop. Thank you for the comment. You are the best.

    • @juditkollar4323
      @juditkollar4323 4 года назад

      Can you help me out where to get extra parts of this press? I ordered a same one on ebay, they delivered it without the screws, I reported this problem to the handler, they disappeared. I would need the whole screw packet it belongs to this press. Thx. :-*

    • @SuperBoxxie
      @SuperBoxxie 4 года назад

      @@juditkollar4323 it was 7 years ago when I bought it and I've since sold it. I remember there being a lot of bolts with alan key tops and a couple wood skrews for the platen but that's about it. If your missing all of them I'd put a direct refund request through ebay/PayPal if you paid through that

    • @juditkollar4323
      @juditkollar4323 4 года назад

      Box thanks your answer! 🤗

  • @geezytees
    @geezytees 5 лет назад +2

    The fact that you spent all day on that press goes to show how much of a crappy press it really is. Cam, you’re the man!

    • @ThePrintLife
      @ThePrintLife  5 лет назад +2

      Of and on through the day. Cant film straight through. I think total time actually registering was about an hour.

    • @ThePrintLife
      @ThePrintLife  5 лет назад +1

      Still that's along time for a 4 color press

  • @typo215
    @typo215 4 года назад +7

    I use this press as well, its not the screen arms shooting out unevenly, its actually the metal arm that the platen is attached to which has a little 'sag'. All you gotta do is put a couple bolts for space to create the angle needed from the platen. After that, everything else lines up fine if tightened. The registration gate thing was actually backwards in the instruction manual and it works fine if you spend a little time and fix it, make it work etc (i use this for multi color jobs pretty regularly)

    • @mariacampos876
      @mariacampos876 Год назад

      Put a couple bolts for space??

    • @BruceLeef
      @BruceLeef 7 месяцев назад

      Can You post a video or something 👍

  • @yobeenocreative6984
    @yobeenocreative6984 3 года назад +1

    My experience comes from 10 years in the Art Dept side of a big textile printer, in Australia in the 90's.
    As for traps , we 'spread' or in photoshop 'expanded' the fill colours about 1/2 mm under outlines if they were black, but if it was a colour outline, the fill colours needed to butt up to the outline perfectly. We also needed to 'choke' or contract a white-base to print under all the colours to ensure colours were vibrant. We also used a high white printed last, for additional brightness of whites, so white-bases didn't need to be printed so hard.
    I note that these days plastisol inks are better than they may have been back then, and you could get away with avoiding bases on colours depending on the ink used, the final effect your after and the garment colour.
    The printers used pneumatic carousels and pin registration for accuracy, but I never had much to do with that side of it. Thinking about getting back into screen printing as a hobby, finding your videos fun and a nice way to dabble without spending too much to setup. Cheers!!

  • @Firefighter8383
    @Firefighter8383 5 лет назад +1

    Bought one of these this time last year for my first press. Ran into same issues maybe a a few more. Finally after a few weeks broke it down and it’s collecting dust in a dark hole. Lesson learned

    • @ThePrintLife
      @ThePrintLife  5 лет назад

      You can do it
      Bust that puppy out.

    • @Firefighter8383
      @Firefighter8383 5 лет назад

      The Print Life just acquired a Riley 4 color with micro adjustments, flash dryer, assortment of screens, coaters, squeegees, and artisan printer for a less than $1300. In the process!

  • @ronjeremyv
    @ronjeremyv 4 года назад +1

    I have a Riley Hopkins Junior 4 color one station press, with micro registration capabilities etc. etc. I also have other methods that I print, sublimation, and heat press vinyl. I have been absolutely terrified to go into the multiple colors, because I’ve always had issues registering the work. Even with micro registration capabilities. This video really kind of helps me out a little bit as far as confidence in the gear that I have, and that I just need to jump off the freaking cliff for crying out loud! Lots of cool little tips I picked up from this. Thank you very much!

    • @ThePrintLife
      @ThePrintLife  4 года назад

      For sure registration dosent need to be a nightmare the trick is allowing enough uninterupted time to get it there. It's the worst when you have people calling or the job is due tommorow. That is when everything seems to go wrong.

  • @douglasw7806
    @douglasw7806 4 года назад +2

    Great video. Thanks for taking the time. I've got one of these too and find it "adequate" for what I do. Starting out you need two resources, time, money. Usually you have more time than money so you get what you can afford and put in the time to make it work. You design around its limitations. Sometimes you just have to say no to a job.

  • @nomaticvanduraartz1720
    @nomaticvanduraartz1720 Год назад

    I've been using that exact press for 3 years. I have made thousands of dollars with it. Mostly one color but I have done multicolored with it. I made sure that the colors didn't have to register perfectly. I've had to fix it so many times and I'm fed up with it. I just bought a riley-hopkins press this morning. I'm going to still use this press but it'll be for sleeve prints.

  • @kenmitchell8367
    @kenmitchell8367 4 года назад +2

    This my first day of online screen printing school. Your class was the best. I am stoked to proceed with the under $30 press and see what i can do. Great video.Cisco.

  • @scottwhite2379
    @scottwhite2379 3 года назад +2

    I just assembled one. First off, sand the pillow block bearings flat with a file or sand paper on a flat surface. That will tighten down stiff and stay put. They have casting flash on them and tighten flexed and rocked.
    To correct the angle of an unruly clamp, use cardboard shims to bring close, then the flange can be adjusted with crescent wrench.
    On the lower flang, apply non skid tape to keep the screws from moving the screen when tightening.
    The tape will allow less screw pressure to hold in place so less flexing of the flanges, causing movement when adjusting.
    Stand all the paint off the lineup tab on each arm where it interferes with the bearings. Make sure and chamfer the edges. Then adjust the bearings Nana just the bearings to the narrowest one. Then with a file adjust all the lineup tabs to that with. If you have set of micrometers you can adjust that Pryor just make them all the same width. This will remove any play. I found it once I remove the paint in adjusted I had a couple that the tabs were narrower that's causing a couple to be nice and tight in a couple to be loose.

  • @fitbchristopher
    @fitbchristopher 4 года назад +1

    Thank you so much for this video, and your additional comment. I am looking for a screen press station and was looking at this press, but the 2 station. I am glad I saw this before buying!! Also thankful you are providing some good options for entry level press machines.

  • @superteeprints371
    @superteeprints371 5 лет назад +3

    another great video cam awesome i use the same press if you put a piece of corrugated plastic at the back of each print head it stops your screen from shifting that what i do it helps thks for the video

    • @ThePrintLife
      @ThePrintLife  5 лет назад +3

      Very good advice. I found that once everything was locked down there ain't much shifting. It ain't a bad press just takes more time tweaking.

  • @TyyEasley
    @TyyEasley 2 месяца назад

    what printer do you use to print on your film

  • @eross21
    @eross21 9 месяцев назад

    so at the very beginning. -1:24- you bring a screen with emulsion on it to printing carousel to align the transparency to the screen and platten. but how do you not expose the screen doing it that way ?

  • @maddogmaz1576
    @maddogmaz1576 4 года назад +8

    Got that same one. works for me. Got to start somewhere

    • @ThePrintLife
      @ThePrintLife  4 года назад +4

      Yes you do. Im not hating on the press, I hope it dosent come of that way. Its a hobby machine. Start with this learn some basic stuff and when you are ready get a press with micros from, Anatol, M&R, Vastex, Ranar, Antec, Something like that.

    • @RobGraham048
      @RobGraham048 4 года назад

      Exactly, and calling it hunk of junk before he used it was a hint that the rest of the video was not worth watching.

  • @ShainaFrolik10752
    @ShainaFrolik10752 Год назад

    thank you so much for this video! So helpful in doing the simple fixes that us newbies need!

  • @YoungShizzie
    @YoungShizzie 3 месяца назад

    Trying to learn this I press a silkscreen machine but we don’t paint our transfers come made already for school uniforms !

  • @makeablewebsolutions
    @makeablewebsolutions 3 года назад

    so much patience adjusting that machine.

  • @davidgutierrez4134
    @davidgutierrez4134 3 года назад +14

    There is no tilt adjustment, but the two bolts holding the receiver in place allow you to adjust the tilt by loosening or tightening them. No need to bend the receiver plate. Patience is key. Many different factors that fall into play, but once you get it down, you can produce great quality results.

    • @gutwounds
      @gutwounds 2 года назад

      Could you explain?

    • @sonyacantu6989
      @sonyacantu6989 2 года назад +1

      I did exactly that brought the bar he was trying to bend down. I’m new to this so is the screen supposed to be flush against the garment

    • @UncleJessie86
      @UncleJessie86 2 года назад

      @@sonyacantu6989 research off-contact. Plenty of stuff on RUclips. I think Cam has a video on it.

  • @jimro9383
    @jimro9383 8 месяцев назад

    Very cool video. It makes the whole enterprise seem much less intimidating. Thank you 😊

  • @hubertgromek818
    @hubertgromek818 5 лет назад +3

    Hey Cam,
    Been listening to a bunch of your podcasts lately on the way to work. Really loving it man! Thank you for all the knowledge, we have made many mistakes, but you have helped me avoid other ones.My wife and I wanted to test our luck making our own shirts for our new Brands. Unfortunately we bought that same machine except the 4 station one. We have had some pretty good results even with a 2 color job. But I’m sure a better press would make life a whole lot easier and more enjoyable. But we are pushing through it and maybe next year we can get the better press.
    Keep up the great Podcasts and videos, you are helping the Newbies realize what they are getting into. Thanks again.

    • @ThePrintLife
      @ThePrintLife  5 лет назад +1

      Thanks Hubert. That podcast is comming back. I have a guest lined up this week.

  • @rememberwhoyouare1682
    @rememberwhoyouare1682 5 лет назад +6

    Lookin good Cam!! So awesome of you to show others how to use this particular press. There are a lot of talented ppl out there that don't have the funds to buy the bigger and better. I started with the RH JR. 4/2 Now I have the Hopkins 300 8/6, waiting for the day I get an auto!

  • @UnintendedStudios
    @UnintendedStudios 5 лет назад +1

    Bought that press a long time ago. It made me so frustrated I quit screen printing. Had to use it recently for a single color. So re learned. Then this pops up a few days later. Man this would have saved me so much anger. Thanks!

    • @ThePrintLife
      @ThePrintLife  5 лет назад

      Ha better late than never but damn I knew I needed to make this year's ago. What a slacker

    • @UnintendedStudios
      @UnintendedStudios 5 лет назад

      @@ThePrintLife well I've had this thing in storage. So this has me curious to bust it out and see if I can get any use out of it. See if I can get the spark back for it. If I can get 2 colors out of it I'll be happy. I wasted the extra money for the 4 pallet one as well. I instantly knew lining up the pallets was impossible.

  • @darrioncisero2419
    @darrioncisero2419 2 года назад

    I appreciate every little meticulous action you showed. Quality demonstration and awesome work.

  • @Chuccy713
    @Chuccy713 4 года назад +7

    The bracket that hold the screen, I put the screws all the way to the top so the bracket touch all the way down.

  • @graham5736
    @graham5736 2 года назад +2

    Hey Cam, love the videos. I just purchased this Vevor model and was surprised at how well it well went together, especially after watching your video and several others detailing the issues they had. I can tell you I was sweating on not buying a lemon. Your video gave me enough pointers to make the build effortless thanks a ton. Maybe 2 more years down (now 2022) the road and Vevor have worked out the kinks, who knows. The video they sent with the box did show the Platten attatchent placed at and angle and tightend to achieve the correct alignment ? Haven't fully finished mine with alignment and tightening so who knows.....maybe no need to bend. Thanks again for the great videos and effort you put in.

    • @omgbyran
      @omgbyran 2 месяца назад

      hey man this may be a shot in the dark to ask but did you get the vevor 4 color 1 station model? looking at this video i was wondering if they were the same model but i was unsure. i assume you recommend the one you went with though. let me know!

  • @TheInkBuildUp
    @TheInkBuildUp 5 лет назад +8

    Awesome video. And Thanks for mentioning about the risk of popping those higher mesh screens. I want to get some new aluminum screens but they're expensive for me since I have to get them ship to my small city in Mexico. Last thing I want is to pop them right away.

    • @Pressplayco
      @Pressplayco 5 лет назад +2

      The Ink Build Up I feel like it’s really not necessary to get screens over 230 meshEvery screen that I have over 230 pops easily so I’d stop using em

    • @TheInkBuildUp
      @TheInkBuildUp 5 лет назад +1

      @@Pressplayco Thanks. Good to know. I'll keep that in mind when I buy new screens. Luckily I didn't rush in buying high mesh screens awhile back.

    • @ThePrintLife
      @ThePrintLife  4 года назад +1

      Good advice. What do you print white through?

    • @TheInkBuildUp
      @TheInkBuildUp 4 года назад

      @@ThePrintLife well I live in Mexico where they use the metric system which I forgot, so I have nothing but like 305mesh (120t) which I have use for all my prints, but now I'm upgrading to aluminum screens. I have 3 so far, two ( 110) and one (160), still need to get more.

  • @DJOTTOMKE
    @DJOTTOMKE 10 месяцев назад

    i just got this press.
    ill be trying some of this to get my stuff looking right.. cuz i cant even get good looking one color prints

  • @jaimininorath5760
    @jaimininorath5760 5 лет назад +2

    Perfect timing, I have shirts and emulsion on the way and I am yet to test my 4 colour eBay press out. So glad I don’t need to go hunting for this information now, thank you cam!

    • @ThePrintLife
      @ThePrintLife  5 лет назад +5

      Thats what im here for to help my future competitors kick my ass in the print game ;)

    • @vlogfamous8049
      @vlogfamous8049 5 лет назад +3

      Dude this is the first video with multi-color job on that press.

    • @ThePrintLife
      @ThePrintLife  5 лет назад +6

      @@vlogfamous8049 You may be right. That would be awsome. Go me

  • @gilbertodiaz-castro626
    @gilbertodiaz-castro626 3 года назад +5

    Since the one you couldn’t adjust was “pushing” the frame away from center perhaps you could ad thin shims behind the clamp attachment to move the other three out the same distance. Shims can be made from soda cans.
    Those bearings are called Pillow Block Bearings.

  • @chadstough343
    @chadstough343 5 лет назад +4

    I have this press and I have started doing small modifications to it, like some knobs in the back and I am working on side clamps to hold the screen as well. I have had it for about a year and a half, and the longer the run the more it moves, and the welds holding the knobs will break so I had to re weld them. I will post some photos of some of the things I have done if it would help anyone else. All you need in a $100 flux welder from Harbor Freight and some nuts and bolts, and a little 3/16 angle steel.

    • @ThePrintLife
      @ThePrintLife  5 лет назад +2

      It seems like it may break down over time.

    • @MrJrfuller83
      @MrJrfuller83 5 лет назад +1

      Hey Chad, please send me some photos and if you have a chance.

    • @chadstough343
      @chadstough343 5 лет назад

      @@MrJrfuller83 Trying to see how to post the pics here in the reply so others can see as well

    • @MrJrfuller83
      @MrJrfuller83 5 лет назад

      @@chadstough343 hey thanks, if you can email jrfuller83@gmail.com

    • @heatherb3685
      @heatherb3685 4 года назад

      would like your picts as well. savagetx@gmail. Thank you in advance!

  • @inkingsink
    @inkingsink 5 лет назад +4

    2020 lessons in patience and doing the best with what you have at the time - I've neen putting in work on those as well .. Print Life.!!

  • @ronbay05
    @ronbay05 3 года назад

    Yes, I have the same cheap machine to try on. Thanks for the tips

  • @vintageyamahabackyardresto4995

    At 1:10 when you are talking bout putting the film on the platen and then sticking it to the screen, did you do something that wasn't recorded to "center" the film on the platen? I watched it like 6-7 times and I am still confused on how you are keeping them all uniform. Yes, I saw where you use the square and measure afterward, but I guess my question is, "Did you measure where the center of the platen is vertically to line up the registration marks prior to sticking the film on? If not, can you go into a little more detail on what you did then? Thanks!

  • @lukewood7060
    @lukewood7060 2 года назад

    I have been using this exact press to do four colour process prints using circular halftone at a frequency of 30. My registration is hit and miss in part because of the arm not lying flat as you pointed out. The result is still pretty good but as it's halftone the sins of registration errors aren't nearly as apparent in the finished product as in your block print. I am going to make some adjustments to my process based on this video. Many thanks.

  • @DavidBoagsPortal
    @DavidBoagsPortal 2 года назад

    @11:50 its looks as though there are inner bolts on the receiver plate that would allow an up and down manipulation in height. love your content

  • @jesselejarzar5114
    @jesselejarzar5114 4 года назад

    I bought a six color one station no micro special from China the reg gate was just metal bolts. I did six color simulated process with an underbase, it came out great. I use a .6 registration mark, with a bump reg spring plate that pushes against three bumpstops with springed pushpins at 3 points on the platen. The platen has to be aluminum so toss the wooden one, my particle board Chinese platen came with a broken corner and each head had only one spring on each side. It held a screen, but as soon as I put ink and squeegee in it fell. So I had to weld a hold point for an extra spring on each side.

  • @geezytees
    @geezytees 5 лет назад +2

    This was my first press, and I wish I saw this video two years ago. 😂 Wish I could have been as a good of problem solver as Cam at that time. I just ditched it and went and bought a new press. Being more experienced now though I use it for my events.

    • @ThePrintLife
      @ThePrintLife  5 лет назад

      Exactly. I feel like I would go nuts with this press when I was starting out.

  • @ctjanney
    @ctjanney 2 года назад

    helping my son setup a screening setup. This was amazingly helpful. Thank you. We'll either fight with this until we make enough to upgrade...or...start with an upgrade?

  • @Hvskarl
    @Hvskarl 5 лет назад +4

    Man, I tried this press when I first started out, I couldn't get all 4 colors to register even close to as good as you got it. I think they come in varying degrees of terrible. I remember running a one color job on it and it was a nightmare cause if I tried to print flash print the second pass was off. I'm thinking I'll still try to Frankenstein that thing into something useable someday lol. Cheers Cam thanks for the videos!

    • @ThePrintLife
      @ThePrintLife  5 лет назад +1

      It will take allot of time tuning it in. But it can be done. It is wise to account for my experiance dealing with crappy equipment for years witch is why I was able to get it in.

  • @jameselder684
    @jameselder684 2 года назад

    Awesome video!! I've been humming and harring about weather to get one of these for a while, watching you set up a four color job on it was very helpful. Cheers!!

  • @briandyer2759
    @briandyer2759 Год назад

    Agree 2 or 3 color max but does work. No butt registration.

  • @jessicarevolver
    @jessicarevolver 4 года назад

    The best screen printing tutorials on youtube!

  • @adriandeleon835
    @adriandeleon835 5 лет назад +1

    Great video, I started out with one of those and it was a pain to get my screens to register. It was nice seeing all four screens on the press. I had my screens hit in the corners causing it to twist it to one side no matter how hard I torque it down. Finally gave up found a deal on an older manual press that has made it so much easier now. turned around and sold that same press for $100 to get rid of it asap

    • @ThePrintLife
      @ThePrintLife  5 лет назад +1

      No shit. I'm using 18 inch wide screen. It never crossed my mind that regular 20 inch screens would bump.

    • @adriandeleon835
      @adriandeleon835 5 лет назад

      I even tried to see on finding longer turn buckles to attach the arm to the springs but local hardware stores didnt have one that would work.

  • @davidwright6282
    @davidwright6282 Год назад

    I noticed that the set up has places for screws to secure onto a flat surface. Is that a necessity? do you know if the machine topples over if it is not secured?

  • @BeyondThisAfterlife
    @BeyondThisAfterlife 4 года назад

    I have a problem with this exact press. Everything is built correctly, just when I go to put the screen down on a shirt it’s like the arm can never truly be centered. You can still push a little to the left and right when the screen is fully down

  • @MRWHITE-ud2gk
    @MRWHITE-ud2gk 5 лет назад +2

    Best ive seen yet...luv the details..it helps. THANX!!!

  • @temudjin1155
    @temudjin1155 3 года назад

    Just bought this printer. Very interesting video. Thank you.

  • @stuartnicol1947
    @stuartnicol1947 3 года назад

    Ha I just a few days ago orderd one from amazon might just send it back

  • @FleaMarketSocialist
    @FleaMarketSocialist 5 лет назад +2

    *Print fam notification squad*

    • @ThePrintLife
      @ThePrintLife  5 лет назад

      Notification on. That what I'm talking about. Thanks for the comment.

  • @gwiazdazaranna
    @gwiazdazaranna 3 года назад +2

    HINT FOR USERS! :D
    Next time when you have problems to position your screen with such equipment try rubber hammer and push/ punch just a little bit! micro hits. Believe me, it used to be a life and time saver!
    Thank you for another great video ;)

  • @nightshifthoops
    @nightshifthoops 5 лет назад +6

    Yo Cam to fix the registration gate issue , on mines I wrapped all 4 of the registration block with masking tape and then clear shipping tape. This really secured the registration! There no space for the block to move side to side and because of the shipping tape, it slides in and out of the registration gate easily

    • @ThePrintLife
      @ThePrintLife  5 лет назад +1

      Very good idea. Does that tape get beat up over time?

    • @nightshifthoops
      @nightshifthoops 5 лет назад +1

      Not really , I’ve had mines on for 8 months now and I print on the press at least once a week

    • @geemoney0313
      @geemoney0313 5 лет назад +1

      nightshiftart facts. I did the same thing and works great. 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾

    • @that1artchick
      @that1artchick 5 лет назад

      @nightshiftart so when you say you wrapped all 4 registration blocks are you talking about putting the tape on the part of the screen where the knobs tighten?

    • @nightshifthoops
      @nightshifthoops 5 лет назад +1

      That 1 Art Chick no I’m talking about the part that stick out in the middle of the screen holders .. the part that goes into where the knob tightens , if you get what I’m saying

  • @JesseWWPCo
    @JesseWWPCo 5 лет назад +2

    When I was looking into a press I was torn between this one and the Riley Hopkins jr. I ended up going with the Riley just for the simple fact of, you get what you pay for. If you have the means to get one, I would recommend it over this press. But if not, anything to get you started!

  • @thisintangibleexistence
    @thisintangibleexistence 2 года назад

    SUPER INFORMATIVE - THANKS

  • @lorryjayne7647
    @lorryjayne7647 3 года назад +1

    I know I’m late to the game but this video is amazing. I’m a hobbyist and finally got this press set up and will be attempting to use it soon. Hoping it helps since I’ve been working on my kitchen table for 2 years 🤦🏻‍♀️ the learning curve is crazy tho!

  • @diecastdave619
    @diecastdave619 2 года назад

    can always add a couple of washers underneath that arm mount so it don't shoot up and sits flat

  • @ThatFooJoe209
    @ThatFooJoe209 2 года назад

    The green looks fine to me 👍🏽

  • @ia7288
    @ia7288 3 года назад

    Either way it looked good bro...best best point made was...never give up..2 thumbs up

  • @bloodshed2712
    @bloodshed2712 5 лет назад +2

    For the record. The ryonet version of these presses are much easier to work with. They cost about $400 if I remember correctly. I've had one for five years. Ive done a bunch of multicolor on it. Never had a problem lining up screens or knocking out my registration. Although I've never messed with a process print.

    • @ThePrintLife
      @ThePrintLife  5 лет назад

      I think any press without micros will be tough to work with on a regular basis.

  • @phuzzydeep9263
    @phuzzydeep9263 4 года назад +1

    I use the exact same damn press. Just starting. Thank you for this. I'm having hell with registration. Going to try everything you did.

  • @meonlyme5334
    @meonlyme5334 Год назад

    Hi where can I get that wraper ridge jig you're using to register your pallet for that blue 4 color press?

  • @Jchot
    @Jchot 7 месяцев назад

    a flat bar between the clamp posts and the screen stops movement when you're securing the frame

  • @HalfAssHomestead
    @HalfAssHomestead 3 года назад

    Cam, I have that same press. My thinking is that I am going to drill and tap to extra holes on every screen mount to allow some micro adjustments from the back plate. I've also seen others who have simply added the bar between the two swivel clamps so they do not work totally independent of each other causing the screen shift. As for the arm raising away from the pallet, that is just a simple minor detail that can be fixed with a couple thin shims where the mount attaches to the arms. Since these cheap presses come with little instructions, I found using my cordless impact a godsend to keeping everything super tight and locked in place.

    • @HalfAssHomestead
      @HalfAssHomestead 3 года назад

      I ended up using 2 quarters under the pallet near the neck end to level it to the screen. I then put the edge of one quarter between the arm and the backing plate to give it some angle, and a dime under the bracket that holds that plate to the arm. I can now run a perfectly flat pallet and screen. I did this one my one screen station. On the 4 screen one station unit, I've seen some pretty impressive hacks, but one would go broke using this much change for each screen....lol.

  • @Theo-jd4rs
    @Theo-jd4rs Год назад

    Hi, great video, I am thinking of starting a small business. I am starting from scratch with little knowledge. What do I need to start? Budget friendly equipment for a beginner. Also, can you recommend something slightly better than the 4 color printing press in your video but not too expensive? I noticed I has a few troublesome quirks.
    Thanks for your help.

  • @contrastej
    @contrastej 3 года назад

    You should put a mark on the last arm...I had a similar problem to an old press I have (25 years!) thanks for this video!

  • @joshuajenniges5830
    @joshuajenniges5830 5 лет назад +1

    Great video.I have a single color press at home but I've been looking at upgrading to a 4 color to start up a side hustle. I keep seeing these on Facebook market place and craigslist...I've almost considered purchasing one of these but after seeing how much trouble this I may just shell out the extra dough for a better 4 color press.

    • @ThePrintLife
      @ThePrintLife  5 лет назад +1

      It can get the job done but you will get frustrated as a beginner trying to mess with it. The single color press is a great option to get your feet with then jump to a press with micro adjustments.

  • @skullxer
    @skullxer 2 года назад

    Would you recommend this to someone who is just getting started completely ond ofc upgrade in the future??

  • @nightstorm56
    @nightstorm56 5 лет назад +10

    Oh man...VERY similar to the press I've currently got, except mine has "micro registration" knobs and my registration gate plate runs parallel to the arm rather than how this is perpendicular. Because the plate runs parallel, I have massive left/right wiggle. Ended up having to pad the hell out of the plate with sticky-backed padding.
    I also experience the screen shift when tightening down the screen, which causes way more frustration than I like to normally handle, lol.
    I will say, though, the first large order I was able to complete with it paid for my whole entire setup.

    • @ThePrintLife
      @ThePrintLife  5 лет назад

      Oh man micros on a press this this would be a game changer. Is that press available on amazon?

    • @nightstorm56
      @nightstorm56 5 лет назад +1

      @@ThePrintLife I bought it as part of a kit, but I'm pretty sure this is the same exact one by itself: Micro Registration Screen Printing 4 Color Printer Fine-tunning DIY Machine New Upgrade Printer www.amazon.com/dp/B0199HX5WE/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_cdThEbAJV92FY

    • @HalfAssHomestead
      @HalfAssHomestead 3 года назад

      Just the addition of the bars under the lock down screen screws would make a world of difference. But you go a good unit there.

    • @HalfAssHomestead
      @HalfAssHomestead 3 года назад

      @@nightstorm56 The only problem I see with these, and mine is no better, is that you can't swing the platen to go under a flash to add a second color.

    • @nightstorm56
      @nightstorm56 3 года назад

      @@HalfAssHomestead I ended up junking my cheap Amazon press described above. Got a Riley Hopkins Jr. 4 color w/micros. It's been sitting in the two boxes it came in a year ago due to having practically no business all year.

  • @jaysasak
    @jaysasak 5 лет назад +1

    I have the same press and encountered exactly the same problems, it's a pain in the ass, so I ditched it and made myself a new one using the thai reg system.

    • @ThePrintLife
      @ThePrintLife  5 лет назад

      Nice the table method is interesting to me.

  • @williamdox
    @williamdox 5 лет назад +2

    This may have saved me. Just doing a bunch of research and was looking at this to start. Anyone have a good recommendation for better option?

    • @ThePrintLife
      @ThePrintLife  5 лет назад +1

      Its still a good press to start with. It just aint going to be easy. Cheap or easy seems you can't have both. I think for your money the vastex 1000 is a great starter because it has micros. Also look into Ranar the cruzer by m&r, or the tornado by Anatol.

    • @jrbrandgoods9632
      @jrbrandgoods9632 5 лет назад

      @@ThePrintLife The V100 will save you quite a bit of money. It's about a grand for a 4 color 2 station. No micros, but it's built solid. I have the press and I've done multi color jobs no probs! Love the content Cam!

    • @vlogfamous8049
      @vlogfamous8049 5 лет назад

      What you learn with this press is an abundance of knowledge and when you do up grade you'll know exactly how to register and tweak the new press. Knowledge dont come easy. Oh and when you do upgrade it'll be way easier

  • @corypettitt5596
    @corypettitt5596 5 лет назад +3

    O the fun memories are justa flooding in.... Q_Q ....You got it brother. One or two color runs and I was getting about 20 to 30 prints through before the rubber mallet came out. LOL.....ya.. not kidding! That $12 deadblow hammer saved me alot of time and somehow beating on the thing was oddly satisfying .... with a little clever backyard engineering she's actually still in rotation!! it doesn't really look much like that any more!!! lol but a ebay turd at hart!! thanks again cam for all the great contains!!

    • @harryhealy611
      @harryhealy611 3 года назад

      Explain more haha

    • @corypettitt5596
      @corypettitt5596 3 года назад

      @@harryhealy611 I made some modifications to the heads and now it's a great little press. Home made registration and off contact. upgraded the sprigs and turnbuckles. New design for the gate. Now it's my on the road rig!

    • @harryhealy611
      @harryhealy611 3 года назад +1

      @@corypettitt5596 That's really cool! jus started dis and bought dis press, been a little discouraged knowing it's a bit shit haha, gotta try figure out how to do all this

    • @corypettitt5596
      @corypettitt5596 3 года назад

      @@harryhealy611 what's your email? I'll send you some info on what I did to mine

    • @harryhealy611
      @harryhealy611 3 года назад +1

      @@corypettitt5596 Thank you so much!

  • @Blackcatgfxx
    @Blackcatgfxx 3 года назад

    Grest video! Whats that little heat gun called?

  • @joelrivera2481
    @joelrivera2481 3 года назад

    What program on the pc you are using? Nice video

  • @iamjoey6115
    @iamjoey6115 3 года назад

    hello brother ,I have been learning screen printing for a while now but I am taking so much time to get the perfect timing of light exposure to the screen

  • @xbobbaganooshx
    @xbobbaganooshx 4 года назад +2

    Are you dipping the screen in water right after you pull it out of the exposure unit?? What's the purpose for that step?

    • @ThePrintLife
      @ThePrintLife  4 года назад +1

      Helps with washout, and since we have an open door to daylight hitting the emulsion with water helps prevent any premature exposure as we walk the screen to the wash out booth.

    • @xbobbaganooshx
      @xbobbaganooshx 4 года назад

      @@ThePrintLife Thanks! This was a fantastic video. Lots of really helpful tips.

  • @Ejk_awd
    @Ejk_awd 5 лет назад +2

    Lol I was laughing the whole time due to just being relatable haha. But like you said it’s possible to print a multi color on this press. It just sometimes takes a long time to setup. And plus you have to know what your looking for when adjusting the cheap press.

    • @ThePrintLife
      @ThePrintLife  5 лет назад

      Nailed it. The thing takes tweaking to another level.

  • @devoncutrell716
    @devoncutrell716 5 лет назад +1

    Looks like the first press I had. Worked well most of the time but did lose registration on bigger jobs.

  • @bilbryink9929
    @bilbryink9929 5 лет назад +1

    Cam thank you. More great tips especially on the screen mesh we will try your suggestions at Bilbry Ink as well.

    • @ThePrintLife
      @ThePrintLife  5 лет назад

      Thank ya for commenting. Experiance printers may want to take the mesh recomends less to heart, as I'm sure you know, certain mesh for more specific applications like glitter, sim process, high density and so on.

  • @George-dx9nc
    @George-dx9nc Месяц назад

    If all of your arms point upwards going out from the center as the one you were showing you can possibly get away with putting a washer in the center around the main bolt you know we might have to check and see how thick a washer or how thin or washer fender washers and stuff like that

  • @TerryRajsombath
    @TerryRajsombath 5 лет назад +1

    I like before even watching the video because I appreciate the content man. 👍

    • @ThePrintLife
      @ThePrintLife  5 лет назад +1

      That's is my dude. Thank you for having faith that my video wont completely suck. You are the man and thanks for commenting terry