How much do SCUFs Really Help? | The NO SCUF Challenge!
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- Welcome back to the Live Commentary Challenge series! In this series we pick a new challenge each week and have 3 episodes to accomplish it. This episode we're doing The NO SCUF Challenge where I have play without my SCUF controller with the intention of showing just how much I rely on it to be successful. Next episode I'll be removing the Kontrol Freek! I hope you enjoy!
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I do the no scuff challenge everyday .. Cause I don't have one
+Ch3at Mast3r 123 you do school almost everyday and that's a challenge xD
Konoha I don't think their cheating though
Sasuke Uchiha Yea I'd just use bumper jumper, it saves a good 200 bucks
Conk Gaming Or just learn claw, I did and it only took me like 2 weeks to get as good as I was when I was playing regularly.
Sasuke Uchiha just play stick and move, it's easily the best setup for MLG jumpshots
lol i dont have a scuf, kontrol freek or play with a headset. i still have a 2.53 kd tho
+Andtherimrocker|King of Live Comms My KD is 208.208.
Same, I dont really see why this is a challenge. I guess because he got used to playing with scuff, but still, I don't really think playing without scuf is hard.
+Astvtic That's exactly what I'm trying to show to all of the people that think having peripherals like Scufs, Kontrol Freeks, and Headsets do all the work for you. I often get accused of only having skill because of the peripherals I use. I want to show them that these things don't create skill, they simply enhance it.
+iiTzhicham i play on a tv
Tdm
The scuff doesn't make you better , it just makes things easier and more convenient.
you see so it does give you an advantage so dont go telling us that its the same as a reg controller or not
If young metro don't trust you, teammate gonna block you.
Scufs obviously help more with all the jumping boosting futuristic bullshit they've had in the last couple games. They wouldn't have been nearly as big a deal in Ghosts and games prior to that.
exactly
Dropshot?
+MrHav1k claw. simple as that.
Marta Labunska
Incomfortable as hell and it'll be difficult to switch to from regular. It does work though. People have been clawing since Halo CE .
I don't find it uncomfortable, it does take few days to get used to it from regular hand configuration but it's more natural to me to play claw rather than regular.
The big takeaway from this video is that Ace likes it from behind.
For the next week on Monday do the knife only challenge. Win a tdm coming in the top 3 while using the combat knife ONLY. No scorestreaks or specialist abilities/weapons. Then on Wednesday add a specialist ability/weapon and win a domination match with the most caps. Then on Friday add scorestreaks and win a FFA game.
ANY KNIFE IS ACCEPTABLE; FURY'S SONG, WRENCH, BRASS KNUCKLES ETC.
Pretty sure a wrench is a wrench and not a knife and brass knuckles aren't knifes either 😂😂 I just wanted to state that but I understand what you meant by knife only
+Rafael Marin thanks but they fit into the knife category
part 4 of the challenges play on a regular TV and not a gaming monitor. would be interesting to see
regular tv no scuff and no headsets would be good
Homie looks like BigTymer lol
+Crazed Gaming big t is 10x sexier sorry ace but i gotta love my man big t
I think elite controller is much better than the scuf one.
I have an idea for a 3 episode challenge; You go on Nuk3town and do the easter egg with the hrads and stuff. Then, you see how long you can survive. The first episode you can use a gun, the second episode you need to use a melee weapon (like the combat knife). And the third episode you must use your fists. Weapon and specialist are all your choice. Please tell me what you think of it👍
Played with both and yes, scuff or an elite controller does give you an advantage over those that don't have them or those that don't use claw or bumper jumper. Obviously it doesn't give you skill but in a head to head gun fight a jump shot while being able to aim at the same time is very noticeably good.
I agree a scuf isn't mandatory, you did very well. Good job Ace.
Personally owning a scuf, I really couldn't play without it. It's really only worth it if you get all the options but the trigger stops are the biggest factor. You win so many more gun fights. Especially if you have a monitor too.
Ace next week change you controller configuration. On Monday play on default(if you play tactical normally, otherwise play tactical) on Wednesday go back to regular button layout but play inverted on Friday go mental and swap your sticks. On each day return all other controller configs to your normal layout just make one change per day. Good luck I'm looking forward to seeing it happen. Love the vids keep it up
control freaks made a huge difference to me. I was losing so many 1v1 gunfights at midrange. I got them and my KD ratio went from 0.6 to 1.0. it's not an instant fix but they help for sure.
The advantages of a Scuf honestly don't shine at full potential in pubs against random/average players, so I'd say using pubs as means to argue that Scuf's aren't considerably advantageous is a bit of a bad argument.
Play competitive matches with other skilled players who are using Scufs (not even remotely uncommon to come across), & you'll quickly learn just how OP Scuf controllers are in BO3. Sure, you can play claw to compensate, but a few hours of "try-harding" in claw will have your hands feeling like they've been tied in a pretzel.
Scuf controllers aren't selling like hot cakes for their looks alone. I've been using a Scuf since BO2, & no game since then has benefited from the mechanics of a Scuf controller like BO3 has. I'd even go as far as to say that consistently competing well against above average players who are using Scuf's most likely won't be possible without having one yourself.
Tbh, I don't like how advantageous Scuf's are in this game. Sure, some would call me a hypocrite for having one, but that's my stance nonetheless
I play claw since bo2 time makes it ok, breztel feeling is only in tge first month or 2.
As a really aggressive player, I can say that a scuf controller certainly helps a lot, but in digression, it's harder to play aggressive against an army of kn-44s chilling in their favorite rooms.
You can make do without a scuf or a control freek, but I feel that a decent headset is essential. Having good knowledge of your surroundings by listening (Footsteps, boosts, lethals, tacticals, specialist abilities etc.) will allow you to survive way longer and get a good streak going 👍
Could you make a video on how to effectively use streaks, like the hellstorm, lightening strike, guardian, etc.?
Yes he should do that!
Yes he should do that!
Dont call in when the round is about to end! Theres one for you
Watch kill feed when a lot of enemies die then use them
hey no offence but I don't think that was a fair representation of if or if not you should have a scuf since you held back on 99% of the gun fights you were in. you were also using a man of war aswell meaning that you can't play aggressively so you're not playing in these short range gun fights where the scuf comes in clutch. I'm not saying you need one for then but this gameplay is literally the opposite of what you should have showed to if needing or scuf or not. regardless, nice vid man
Agree 100%. Should've showcased gameplay using an smg.
very few jump shots, reluctant to push up and don't dominate nearly as much as usual. Scuf makes a massive difference.
headset is extremely useful in some situations though. It can help you catch tough/surprising situations before they come at you. Like if all your teammates are away from you and you are surrounded. You know which enemies are coming at you. But it definitly is not needed. I've gotten plenty of streaks without headsets.
you can also use the button layout stick and move to have better control over your jumpshot if you don't have a scuf
Your information and videos are invaluable to us the community thank you Exclusive Ace
you could also use the button layouts (Tactical Bumper Jumper) or (Stick & Move) for aiming and jumping at the same time
right now ace has 172172 subs
not that anyone cares
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Right now Ace has 403k subs just two years after your comment. Not that anyone cares
actually, i think when i got my scuf it made me a lot better of a player. people say it doesnt change ur skill, but it does because it changes the way u think and approach different situations. ill never go back
Never needed a scuff or to jump and shoot at the same time for that matter and I always finish top 3 on my team and have a 2.86 k/d. I even use the default button scheme, I'm sure a scuff helps but it really is how you play. It all depends on your play style, you have to play totally different i.e. (Use lots of cover, don't jump all the time, USE CROUCH) And I still have a very "aggressive" play style as you guys say.
To add little bit more of a challenge you should use an auto generated class
that is a completely different challange.
+Bongo King Did you read it wrong?
Eemil Valtonen this has no relevance to the current challenge and should be a challenge of its own. (Don't know how I can put this any more clearly)
+Bongo King I was trying to say something to make the challenge harder because this guy is dominating
I only recently started to play with a headset and noticed it doesn't help me that much. I got so used to playing 'raw' without any help, that I don't need a scuff or kontrol freaks to do good :) It's all about that reaction time :)
I disagree, I mean it all comes don't to personal preference but in my experience using a headset can give you an edge on others, I can hear people before they get to me and kinda know where they are coming from.
Yeah I guess it comes down to an idividual. I simply can't play with a headset (and I have a decent one and I can hear their footsteps too). But for some reason I'm best without anything added, in fact I play without TV sound at all.
I just started using a Scuf on BO3. I only play TDM solo. I was around a 1.6 kd in BO2, and am now at a 1.9 kd now. I would say it gets me 3-4 extra kills a game. When you are in the "zone" probably even a few more.
Oh ace! I've got it! If the legacy south paw challenge scares you ,then try LMG hip fire only
In addition of this i kinda like if you do tips or info on where could scuff or kontol freek or even headset could help in which situation how it's effect your gameplay exactly at the same time you playing .. =)
You could always just play bumper jumper and save yourself $300
That's what I do
or stick and move
+goonber or Claw
Or work and not be cheap and spend $300
MyBlackhawks88 i bet u my cheap ass would destroy you while playing claw
"And today I wont be using a scuf controller. Instead, I'll be using the xbox one elite controller. Let's get into it." XD
Is it just me, or does Ace sound like Dr. Hibbert when he laughs?
You might not feel a big difference when you start using SCUF. But when you stop, you feel it big time.
You are one of my favorite commentator like this video keep up the good work keep it coming.....
so I had a scuff on 360 but not on xbone i can tell a difference, and even though it enhances skill and doesn't create it a lot of the "close" gunfights are won because of a scuff. i also might have a little different opinion because i only play search, and you get into more controlled scenarios where a scuff is very beneficial
You can also use Bumber Jumper layout and have the same effect as Scuf. This will make jumping L1 and Aiming L2 (you can swap). I can use it but because I never use my middle or ring finger, I don't do as well as this layout can allow (I only use index finger for bumber buttons/triggers.
I use stick jump
If u guys can't afford it (like me) just get used to claw,u get better at it after like 10-15 games. Great vid bro!!
Tried it. Awkward as fuck.
Hey Ace, is it possible for you to play the PC version? I just want to know what you think about weapon damage and if it is different to console.
well the ergo controller concept is very good for PC shooters because on one thing the workplace efficiency!!
could you do an episode of this challenge, or make a new challenge where you're playing claw? that would be interesting
I think that, considering how correct you are regarding the fact that these peripherals certainly don't replace raw skill, a more fun series would involve you playing on a high sensitivity.
You can strip down someone's game and remove headsets, Scufs and so on, but most people will always be *overly* dependent on low-mid sensitivities and never really develop any kind of gun skill when they're can simply settle for waving their right stick around over an enemy's aim assist zone combined with that slower sensitivity.
It would be interesting to see what your accuracy is like with an 11-14 sensitivity 👀
Also no Awareness lol
***** Clueless? Or maybe some high sens players play on high sens because they can actually control it?
***** I'd be worried about anyone who thought they were good just because they use a high sens... I guess the same could be said for anyone who thinks people do because of that 😂
***** it's funny you say that. I started out with MW3 on 2 sens and moved to Ghosts where I would use a 4 and sometimes a 5. My transition to high sens was a little unusual -- it was a direct jump from 5 to 10 after 15 minutes trying it against bots, and after a month I had gone through 12, 14, 15 and finally 16. That's what I settled on and ended up using in Ghosts and then AW. I got bored of Advanced Lagfare and tried out BO1 and BO2 for the first time (using 9 in BO1 and 11 or 12 in BO2), and it took me a while to find a go to sens in BO3 because it feels slower overall (not sure if you or anyone else have noticed the same?). For that reason I played around with 10 sens all the way up to 14, but eventually landed on 11/12 again since they're equivalent to 16/17 in Ghosts or AW.
What I've found is that whenever I've tried to go back to my old sens range (5/20 or equivalent ), I've really struggled 😂 whereas before it was easy to drag slowly on to the target and then had the ability to wave my stick around somewhat recklessly, allowing me to be a bit more sloppy with my control, I've become so accustomed to being forced to make minute, precise adjustments that slower sensitivities now hurt me more than anything. Of course it's also hard to get used to not being able to turn or check corners at lightning speed again; that's always the main advantage with high sensitivies.
So I guess you're right, but the main reason for that is most people assume low sens is best and then *start* out with that, becoming used to it and thus become comfortable with assuming it's best for them. I can understand why someone would hesitate to make such a sudden change, but I guess common sense would also dictate that if someone can maintain the same level of accuracy on a high sens as someone else that uses a low sens, high is better for them.
That's why I thought this would make for a good challenge for Ace -- it's really tough to adapt suddenly ;)
***** yeah I guess some people just don't know their limits 😂😭
I hope that @TheXclusiveAce had a long ranged map when he took of the KontrolFreek.
dude its obvious the control freak makes a difference, I could notice on his reaction time ,hell yeah the kontrol freak helps out .
do you use bumper jumper or stick and move . when not using scuff . i do and have an advantage over almost every enemy waiting around a corner for me
I think the most important thing to take from this video is "but, of course, im still on top. Which you gotta like 😏" -(Xclusive Ace 2017).
you can also change your settings to bumper jumper or bumper jumper tactical
Use Stick and Move button layout to aim while jumping. Changed from tactical and its way more useful in this game for myself at least.
I'm soo glad i can play claw. Playing claw takes time to get used to but it's basically like having a scuf
Thanks Ace for the entertaining content.
Ace, did you play with the default button layout or did you use stick and move or bumper jumper?
If you use the stick and move button layout it will make the right stick your jump ability. Not a scuff but damn close.
Hey Ace another question for you...I play on a 1.37mbps download and sometimes it feels like my first 2-3 shots hit target then a lag pause before the rest find target again. It's the fastest internet I can get in my area. I don't wanna be a camper with a gorgon but I'm not sure how else to compete?
For the next challenge go for as many assists as possible in one game. I really like this series Ace keep them coming.
That one is a bit to reliant on his team yes but good idea!
All non-Scuf users: I recommend using Stick and Move settings. It works amazingly well for my friend and I, and I can maintain aim while jumping.
I think scufs actually help a lot cause you can position yourself better. I don’t have a scuf and I can jump shot and aim very well. But I find my movement isn’t very fluid and that gets me killed a lot. That’s why I play a slow AR role.
ace, its pretty simple to do this challenge. just dont jump or slide! like play defensively
+TheXclusiveAce Hey Ace i was wondering if you had any advice i want to do gaming vids and my preferred console is xbone but i could use a ps4 and i already own an xbox but it isn't in my room and there's to much echo and its on a tv should i get one in my room cuz i cant move it? and if so should i get the same console?
What control setup are you using? Im willing to bet you couldn't even see a difference in the game play if you use bummper jumper tactical
Funny your doing this challenge cause last stream I watched I put the question to you of how much difference do you think it makes overall...hope it helped you want to do this challenge...I also gamed with you in that lobby and it was great couple games...
I do this challenge every time I play
I'd predict no sound will be the biggest influence on game play.
if no scuff, bumper jumper or stick & move do you prefer?
Don't listen to any of these hate comments. Your content is amazing
crystian calixto cool
I got my scuf about 2 months ago and it defiantly helps you win a lot more gun fights. You especially need it while doing comp COD like I play
Doesn't everyone in competitive have a Scuf?
+Astvtic no not true, Comp COD can just be GBs or UMG not everyone that plays those have scuds, but I helps out a lot and gives a huge advantage
Hey ace, maybe u can try incorporating bumper jumper or stick and move and seeing how that compares to scuf. I know I would be super interested to know, a scuf isn't in my budget and I play bumper jumper
"Every day I use my controller like this. I'm going to change it up and not practice at all with it. Then I'll go into a game and keep saying it's the scuff not being there. Not the fact that it's a real change to my everyday play"
I got a question. What ginger do u use for the paddle buttons? Your middle finger?
i dont use a scuf, but my button layout is the stick and move! that definitely helps for jumpshots
yea i kill everyone who is waiting around a corner for me
I have gamer grips, but still no Headset or scuf.
I just ordered a scuf I'm really excited
bumper jumper button layout is a good way to substitute a scuf for free
Does anyone thing that it is a bit insulting that him playing with no scuf is "a challenge". So your saying that I am playing a challenge everytime I play call of duty because I don't want to spend my money on a controller
Look at my comment at the top, I agree with you. I don't have a scuff but I'm still good
It's ok to have your opinion. I don't think ace wants to insult anyone.
A normal gamer like yourself probably hasn't changed your setup so that's your comfortability. Likewise, when your norm is using a scuf, kf, netduma, gaming monitors, and headsets and you take all that away. It will be different.
Another example curry probably uses a shooting machine to complete his 1,000 makes a day. Chasing your shot and ball while still doable. Is more difficult.
+Archetype I agree. You don't. But that's the power of promotion and marketing to make ppl think if you have this and that you can be the best. Might be benefiting in some situations. But doesn't make you the player. You should still be the same player without it.
***** Yeah! Like any skill or anything in general its all muscle memory. People just find themselves not liking results and quit.
is it normal that my SCUF controller doesint have any vibration
did you use default button layout or did you change it and if so what to?!
I don't think the scuf controller makes a big difference if you only play public matches. It's in competitive where a scuf is a big factor.
been on the fence for a while about buying a scuf. perfect vid!
Just learn claw
+Biblical Knives claw is the best
+Jason Murphy For games like these in my opinion it's crucial. If you have an Xbox go with the elite. Way better build quality and it won't break down after a month like my SCUF did.
I physically CANNOT play without kontrolfreeks anymore
You don't need a scuf anyways for BO3. They have a controller setting that switching melee with jump, so your R3 button is the jump. Since they removed the panic melee, there is less use for it anyways. But I do admit I change back to default when I use the NX Shadow claw with bayonet ;)
I tried that. Takes a lot of getting used to
I hate the panic melee. The amount of quickscope kills I possibly could've got is too damn higher
+Sililo Vakauta yeah it did take some getting use to but once I did it's hard to go back lol
+DracodinGaming Im only using it for trick shots. But I'll master this shit and fuck people up
+Sililo Vakauta ewwww trickshots
Would've been more interesting if it wasn't on one of the flattest, most ground-based maps in the game. In terms of map navigation as well
You can jumpsuit without a scuf is you use bumper jumper and put ur middle finger on the aim and point finger on the jump
"I don't mind coming back from behind" - Xclusive Ace 2k16
Think you should get someone who isn't as familiar with the game or the scuff controller or the control freak to do the challenge then see the differences.
Do a hip fire challenge. Every kill has to be hip fire.
1st episode - shotgun
2nd episode - smg or ar
3rd episode - sniper
Could you show us your hands to see how you play in the futur episodes
Hi Ace, have you tried the Elite controller?? How you feel??
Is a XB1 Elite controller basically a scuff, it has the paddles?
for next week you should try a different controller layout
I recommend bumper jumper
then you can switch the l1/l2 for part two
then maybe switch the stick layout for part 3
i use bumper jumper its kind of like a scuf but free
+samuel toye switch to stick and move man, that way you can ads and jump. Drop shotting is dead anyway
I wouldnt think so, it just take away the purpose of these episodes. He is trying to give the less experienced players a fair idea on the differences between scuf and no scuf keeping in mind the inexperienced tend to use default layout.
OMG I saw your ears for the first time on the miniature xD
What is the difference between a Xbox one elite controller and a normal controller
What setting do u hav ur controller on when u dlnt hav a scuff?
ACE EXPOSED!!!!!!!!!
Nah he is legit
Can you take the headset off before the Kontrolfreaks
Do it on the ps4 controller because you always say in your streams your controller makes you character move to the left
You cant see that mutch diference because you camp all the time, try again but rushing