BBC's EV Vendetta? Tesla on Blink? UK charging up? Almost Breaking News!
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- Опубликовано: 18 июн 2024
- Join Robert for May's Almost Breaking News! This episode tackles misinformation about electric vehicles spread by the BBC, busts myths surrounding secondhand EVs, and delves into the world of BIG electric trucks. Robert also explores Amazon's extraordinary charging network, wooden wind turbines, the surge in EV chargers in the UK, gas leaks from old oil wells, the ongoing issue with Tesla and the Supercharger Network and some good news on Gigabatteries.Get ready for a whirlwind tour of all the essential news from the world of EVs and clean energy from the past month, peppered with Robert's signature rants! @fullychargedshow @EverythingElectricShow
00:00 It's Almost Breaking News!
00:49 BBC's EV Vendetta and secondhand EVs
04:18 What the Truck?!
08:20 A Case of Misinformation!
11:49 Wind TurPINES?!
14:15 60,000 Charge Points!
15:33 Dirty Lies?!
18:58 Tesla Bins the supercharger network?!
20:40 Tesla Megapacks and Gigabatteries!
Links to stories:
Secondhand EV Sales:
www.smmt.co.uk/2024/05/used-c...
BIG Trucks
www.daimlertruck.com/en/newsr...
about.bnef.com/blog/chinas-cl...
www.bloomberg.com/news/articl...
electrek.co/2024/05/08/amazon...
Parking EVs at a hospital
www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c...
Wooden wind turbines
edition.cnn.com/world/europe/...
60,000 charge points
www.zap-map.com/news/60000-pu...
Idle oil well gas
www.desmog.com/2024/02/06/wsp...
Tesla Lay offs and big battery
electrek.co/2024/04/29/tesla-...
electrek.co/2024/04/30/tesla-...
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Scrapyard challenge. It would be interesting to have a new series where contestants get the chance to have access to parts from electric cars, motors, batteries, etc.
Not a bad idea !
Yes, and repurpose the defunct EV batteries into storage batteries for domestic use.
You won't find old EV batteries in a scrapyard. Mainly because very few have come to end of life yet and the few that have have been recycled or been reused in grid level storage. @@David-bl1bt
@@David-bl1btor anything. Because damn they so useful
Most of them will be scrap soon nobody is buying them.
The part about the hospital car parking story that shocks me the most is that they had waited 5 years for the hospital appointment. More than half of the childs life. That needs to change.
It's possible that the child had to reach a particular weight or developmental milestone before further treatment or diagnosis was able to be performed.
@@NoGufff in this case that's just how long everything takes on the neurodiverse pathway 😢
Was the most commented thing back on the 3rd May on BBC. 5 year appointment waiting time and felt no need to raise anything but told to park his EV somewhere else then straight on social media.
@@michaelmcnally2331 two very different and unrelated issues. But both bad, I agree.
@@SwitchedOnNetwork 5 years is fast for getting an ADHD or Autism assessment now. It's insanity
After just 46,000 miles and 4 1/2 years of ownership, last week Tesla service advised me against driving my car as the HV battery was about to fail. It is now at the service centre awaiting a replacement HV battery. Tesla provided a Loaner car (awful experience due to arguments/charges over existing damage). But my main concern is the potential poor standard of the replacement *refurbished* battery and the lack of extended warranty (it will still be based on my car's age and total mileage). Tesla are saying the potential cost of a future out of warranty replacement, if it fails again is GBP £20,000 (USD $25,000)! More than the value of the car which, by the way, is dropping like a stone!
I was a hughe EV fan and I believed your arguments against all the FUD surrounding them, but this is a very real problem for a lot of EV owners who can't afford to switch to a new lease every few years, or want to buy second hand. I am now questioning the value of EVs. The batteries are unreliable more often than you think, masked by a warranty process with is potentially a ticking time bomb as they are soooo expensive to replace.
When the HV battery fails under warranty the warranty does NOT cover a new replacement battery. The chance of receiving an unreliable replacement battery under warranty is high because they are refurbished from a previously failed battery (there are an increasing number of owners with such experiences, left with worthless cars).
Currently, I am concerned my car will become a worthless risk to anyone as soon as the warranty period is up. Why would anyone want to risk buying a second hand out of warranty EV with a risk of a battery failure leading to an instant write-off?
I have been very careful with my charging habits since owning my car from new and diligently followed the 80/20 rule charging mostly at home.
I would love to come on your channel to discuss this. I used to advocate EVs as better than ICE cars in every way, but more needs to be done surrounding HV battery repair for second hand/out of warranty owners. Currently it is almost impossible to find someone to repair them. Plus the warranty should cover a new replacement if the HV battery fails rather than a refurb of a previously failed battery for which the owner has no idea of previous use/mileage/charging practices.
If you are still reading this and share my concerns, particularly if you are an EV supporter (like me) please give it a like/thumbs-up so there is more chance this channels moderators will take note of both sides of the story. To help debunk the EV FUD, real stories of the downside to EV ownership should also be documented and reported. I would like this channel to follow my real life experience with Tesla and EV ownership. Particularly if we can encourage more EV battery repair rather than write offs. Or affordable extended warranty or battery insurance options if this is really an uncommon issue. IF it is it should be cost effective to insure against, currently it is not.
I've heard the same from Tesla and EV owners first hand. According to this guy you are all funded by 'fossil fuel', liars or idiots. Everyone knows their lithium battery appliances last for ever and work perfectly well in the cold! :)
How old is your Tesla? Did you put 46k on it from new? What mileage was it when you bought it?
I’ve seen them as cheap as £15k (a lot more than I’d spend on a car) but I’m not seeing an answer to the question of bankruptcy via replacement battery cost. There’s no single £20k part of an ICE car that would need replacing. It would be a very unwise financial decision for me to make, both as a car enthusiast or from ‘saving money’ POV. Considering I spend £200 a month on fuel for my 25 year old car than cost me less than a grand that is cheap to maintain.
@@itsanarse BULLY FOR YOU BUT YOUR OLD MOTOR IS A REAL AIR POLLUTER, compared to a small ice engine since the early 2000s fitting of a particulate filter
@@ellisrochlin2267 it might be but I get 27mpg, it’s the most reliable car I’ve ever had and isn’t a dirty diesel. If you can give me £15k for a new electric car then I’ll send you my bank details 😁 the government aren’t going to buy me one. How dare you suggest I can’t drive my old luxury car 🤣
cheaper to rent for 3 yrs say a VW id 5 , put a month up front so no concern about deposit , do a 12000 miles PA , cost you pre vat £17000 UNLESS ITS RETURNED IN A SHABBY CONDITION . If you go the outright buy from NEW it stands to lose from new about £28,000 -32000. SOOOooo rent is a no brainer by way of a ev
I just had to buy a new 12v battery for my ten year old zoe. The amount of time I've spent correcting people that it's not the main battery is insane!
Don’t correct them, but do tell them how much you paid for it. ;-)
@@jeffg4570 I had my Toyota serviced recently - it's a seven years old hybrid and the 12v battery needed replacing - it's the first substantial cost (four new tires and some brake pads was the only cost prior to that) and my eyes watered. Back in the day they used to be cheap.
Can’t beat a good old Robert Rant, or several of them 😊
Yeah, but he usually rants anti-Tory things, forgetting that many of his supporters are tories, also forgetting that many companies he's advocating are funded by capitalism.
Been an owner of an EV for just over 3 years now & i absolutely enjoy it .
The car i have now suits all my needs where i live & i can seriously consider longer trips with it if i wish too.
Best move i ever made going electric.
More than my 2023 RS5 Vorsprung coupe? No, obviously not!
You just can't go very far in it. Great for Tescos but an expensive way to do shopping.
@@andrewwaller5913 Yawn.... the usual twaddle spat out
@@mikejupp6040
Keep yawning when you wait in the queue to charge your EV , that is if you can find a working charger
@@TheGecko213 Yep as I thought the usual twaddle spat out.
I’m sat here looking out of my lounge window onto a busy road here in Québec, over the last 5 years the numbers of EV's going past has risen from occasionally to every minute or so. 😮
here in Australia you can play a game. How many teslas can you spot in a minute
@@chrisnewman7281 Here the Hyundai range - Ioniq 5, Kona E, Hyundai 6 are the most popular followed by the Tesla’s. I think the main is that Hyundai have excellent garages everywhere and there are just two Tesla centres to serve the whole of Québec which is the largest province in a very large country.
@@chrisnewman7281every time I drive anywhere around the inner Northwest of Sydney now, I see multiple Tesla's, even on quite short trips, and often end up beside or behind one so I can admire it!
About 4 years ago, I saw my first Tesla, a Model S of course, and it flew off into the distance spectacularly. It was months before I saw a second one, or maybe it was the same one, probably.
@@gregbailey45 Sydney, god it’s a long time since I’ve been there….actually 58 years ago. I used to be in the British Merchant Navy, that’s when they had one. A mate of mine lived in Leumeah ( I think that’s how you spell it)
Here in Norway every third car I pass on my way to work is electric!
I was pleasantly surprised to see Sky news made a point that the recent bus fire in London was caused by a diesel, not an EV.
Yes, I noticed that.
Because they all try to blame car fires on ev s but car fires have been happening long before evs
We had a diesel bus destroy itself within a couple of minutes where I live in Hampshire.
Yes, but you can put those fires out 😂😂😂
@@jonathanfoster1270 So it's a choice of frequent fires or bad fires.
I can't charge my car at work, despite there being chargers, due to it being an underground car park and the "fire risk". Ironically, not that long ago the building was evacuated due to a random ICE car pulling into the car park which caught fire.
Destination charging is very important, especially when you can't charge at home. There shouldnt be any more barriers to it than nessecary.
I saw another burning gasser, didn't make the news
Probably because you can put ICE cars out in minutes.
@@MrSabrecat Hmmm, assuming that you've got the appropriate extinguisher handy. Most people don't, so the fire is almoist certainly going to burn out of control anyway. BTW, if your car goes up, "in minutes" it will already be a wreck.
When was the last time an ICE re-ingnited a week later. Or as per the ship fire re-ingnited as so the air hit it. Let's just hope that soon something happens with multiple EVs in an underground car park to show what will happen.
@@MrSabrecat Not true, ref the Airport car park fire!
Cheeky wee Red Dwarf reference at the start there. Robert must be a fan.
@@Chewbacca_yetti (yes that's the joke)
Well, he's seen at least one episode. lol.
Seen auto-translate... no Welsh option.... 😆
Wow I had no idea Robert played Kryten in Red Dwarf, one of my all time favourite shows., now I understand why all the Kryten figurines on his shelf in the background.
@@EdgyNumber1 my grandmother was welsh and I could not understand a word she said, but boy, it was fascinating to listen to.
Robert the Archbishop of Electrons. And yes, the occasional slip into Kryten's voice just makes the video that much better.
A name like "Red Dwarf" springs to mind...
I have always been a red dwarf fan, but I am still amazed how he can be the same person! I suppose the costume may have helped, but even then........................brilliant.
I have owned EVs since 2019 and they work well for me. However, there are still many cases where EVs cannot compete, there are no EVs in low insurance groups suitable for young drivers, and if you can't charge at home public charging is inconvenient and expensive. Pretending that the only thing stopping EV domination is the evil oil and gas corporations is foolish.
Indeed - having multiple payment systems and apps to fill your battery is absurd. You just need something like a normal pump where you stick your VISA in and get the electricity. It's one of the things that governments everywhere should be insisting on as a prerequisite for approval for chargers.
I agree. A big part of car owners in Europe does not have the option to charge at home, an so are challenged by the lack of kurb side chargers and fast charging evs.
I want to get an ev, but have to park my car on public road. If I fist have to find an available park spot with charger, and then move the car again a few hours later it would be a major inconvinience.
@@user-fm6ns5nb4j I don’t know where you live but in Norway chargers are getting card machines. I have a card which works with almost every rapid charger in Norway.
The UK doesn't do as well as other countries with installing EV chargers. Leaving it to shady profiteers with too many not-in-service chargers, is not acceptable. Politicians have the power to fix this, as they make EVs look bad in the UK.
@@ianp5a Believe me, Spain is no better - and probably much worse. The largest provider here is Iberdrola - they just announced that they have installed 7,000 charging points across the country, with another thousand under construction and 2,000 where permits have been applied for, but not issued. Knowing Spanish bureaucracy I'm sure that getting the permit is a huge issue.
Seven years ago when I was last looking for a new car the closest public charging point was on the other side of Malaga (35 minutes and 40km away), now it is about 15 minutes and 11km away. So things are improving but slowly. However the closest charging points are run by different companies - I don't want a separate app for each of them - I just want to stick my credit card in and get electricity out. But mostly, in the Summer, I charge at home in the afternoon.
Absolutely brilliant Robert , you ought to have a mainstream TV program so that the non tubing public can hear these really important statistics . Great work and shout it from the rooftops ! The oiligarchs wont like it !
This
It won't be on the BBC!
The BBC and much of the media seem to be increasingly out of step with what the majority of people think in many areas, not just EVs. They're in no way unbiased as they like to call themselves.
In Germany the same, bashing non stop….
I call bullshit.
Hertz is selling off 100 thousand Tesla's and it's due to depreciation and maintenance costs as in tires cost double replace 3x as often.
EVs are horrible in winters like in Canada
@@ZoomZoomMX3 Forbes reported Hertz were selling "about 20,000" of the 100k they bought. Where did you get the 100k figure from?
@DT-dc4br probably from that valuable resource of world facts....barstool "experts"😂
@@ZoomZoomMX3Have a look at Norway before talking bullshit.
I don't know how many times I've heard "And if you have been, thank you for watching" over the years, but it's quite a lot! Thanks for everything you and the team do, Robert!
09:09 - Thanks for covering the story but a quick (very minor) correction - I wasn't visiting my son, he was in the car with us and it was a scheduled appointment we were taking him to. If anyone's interested, I've recorded a quick video on my channel where I tell the full story and discuss it in more detail. Not posting the link so as not to spam, but feel free to click through :)
The biggest thing steering people from EV at the moment is the residual values due to price cutting and much cheaper Chinese imports, but it will settle.
My company car is coming up for replacement (at 4 years). The only electric option in the list back in 2020 was a dismal DS3.
This time around, there's a swathe of MGs, Kia, Hyundai, Skoda etc.
Due to the very low BIK, the only realistic option is to go full EV, which means that in 4 years time there'll be many thousands of ex-fleet EV on the 2nd hand market.
And all those EV's go onto the used market 😃
I live in NZ and recently a Rep called into our business with a late model Audi, and I said 'they must be paying you too much!' 😃. He said it cost 25% of the new car price, and to me it still looked new! However, spare parts, servicing etc are still important to me, so I will stick with my Wildtrak X for a while. (by the way the devaluation is very minimal for utes (pick ups), in this country.). Same with commercial vans.
@@TerryHickey-xt4mf yeah a sure sign of a salesman for a company that's overcharging you is if they turn up in something like a Porsche which I've seen happen and not for high end real estate or anything like that. Show me you aren't overpaying your staff if you want my business.
Low residual value is not a problem for the 90% or so of "buyers" in the UK who rent. Or the more common word is "lease". The residual value does not matter to renters. And as for second hand buyers - fill your boots!!! Party time!!! Get in while the prices are depressed. They won't be for long. Low residuals might impact the lease price and if you are one of those rare actual buyers - unless you intend to keep any car for 10 or so years, expect to get taken to the cleaners when you sell on. I don't know for sure but it is likely with fleet figuring out how cheap an EV is to run than anything else, there will be waves of 2-4 year old EVs coming into the market and dealers don't want them.
It does not take much research to see that in the UK EVs are better at holding their value than their ICE equivalents. Don't be comparing a £90k EV Mercedes with a £20k Corsa diesel. If the Chinese arrive in numbers and the pricing isn't silly then the problems for "legacy" auto will only intensify - especially if the dealership model is dispensed with. Note also that the EU has finally realised the stated WLTP fuel efficiency of hybrids is not far off the earlier Dieselgate - so flogging hybrids as economical to an unsuspecting public is about to stop.
@@jonevansauthor So you prefer to buy from companies that pays its staff "slave wages"? Are you from the USA by any chance?
People are gobsmacked that you can use wood to make wind turbines. Yet Tall Trees have been standing for hundreds of years with no problems, I think the whole idea makes a lot of sense.
The DeHavilland Mosquito was a combat- tough, high speed WW2 bomber- made almost entirely of wood! 400mph+ top speed and the least likely to be shot down of any combat plane of the war.
The super tall trees are usually not in the high wind areas. There is a reason why wood may not be the best option, but it certainly neat and if they can make it worth with enough support it should be a decent back up. There are massive downsides though in terms of growth time and long term turn around time (most companies want short term gains) so its gonna be rough finding enough money there.
on the one hand, yes, on the other hand, not dead trees ;)
@@ShimejiiGaming Yes but they're not making turbine towers from a monolithic type of wood structure, they're making it by laminating the wood so that is even stronger than a single piece on it's own. The same way they've been doing so in buildings for years
lol, wut? The Redwoods grow on the West Coast which see gales every winter.
Our experience of having our Ioniq 5 for 4 weeks has been nothing but positive. The charging at home, the quiet, refined drive and (bonus) the access to the amazing Octopus Intelligent Go tariff. It’s a different world and we love it.
Just wait until the battery wears out.
@@zog97xy it won't and its under warranty. That's laughable given the ridiculously long warranty that Hyundai and Kia in particular give their cars. On top of that EV batteries do not wear out it's a fallacy. The only ones that wore out were the air cooled Nissan Leafs
@@norfolkngood8960 and even then it was only some of them.
@@zog97xyDo you have your Daily Mail delivered or do you digest it online 😁
@@zog97xy have you checked the warranty?
Talking about diesel vehicles bursting into flames.
A diesel bus did that in Twickenham this week.
Yes, we all know diesel just bursts into flames 😂. A lot of ICE fires are caused by electrical faults. (Mainly poorly installed after market wiring)
@@Paul-mf1vjLet's ban electricity altogether. We can light our homes by burning diesel in the living room.
@@Paul-mf1vj Electrical faults are the most common form of vehicle fires after arson, across all fuel types. It’s usually wiring failures causing overheating or arcing and then igniting either plastics or oil type substances. There is a lot of plastics and rubbers in all vehicles and it burns very nicely.
Batteries or petrol tanks or diesel tanks just going up on their own is pretty rare.
@@javelinXH992even so on a per vehicle basis ICE cars are much more likely to catch fire than EVs based in the data. In that case putting more attention to EV fires just looks like the media preferring those stories as they get attention, and clicks. This gives a false impression, as do a lot of news stories on other topics too. It's one reason a lot of people believe they are being persecuted by a 'woke mob' .
My current electric car is a Renault Zoe 50. I’ve had her for a total of four years driving from Broxbourne to Brighton twice a year!! I shall be sorry to part with her because I absolutely adore driving her.
I worked with a lad who ran a 22kw Zoe and it was amazing the adventures he went on in that little car. He would be lost with a 50 - what luxury!
Get your facts right Robert. Hospital parking charges may be the norm in Engerland, but not in Scotland, it's free. So, when you say "UK" you mean England.
Engerland????!!!!
@@edyee1647 sorry, Lloegr.
“ so what you’re saying” can we have our Barnet Formula money back - Then? 🥴
@@pollywollydo if you write a coherent question, I might answer it.
@@PorthLlwyd subtlety obviously doesn’t work. “ CAN WE HAVE OUR BARNET FORMULA MONEY BACK? “. Clear now? 🙄
I have a car fire experience - it was a Mercedes diesel SUV. While we were driving an injector blew out of the engine and the fuel caught fire, burning-out the front of the car before the fire brigade arrived. It was somewhat shocking, we were then stranded, and then there were all the insurance company arguments... Also, a friend's petrol Ford Transit caught fire, and a petrol Audi across from my flat spontaneously caught fire one evening - I had to quickly move my own car. If all petrol and diesel vehicle fires were given as much coverage as the rare EV fires, the true ratio would be apparent, and EVs would be seen to be far less of a fire risk.
" no one wants electric cars" Clearly, he had no idea the Tesla Model Y was the World's best selling car in 2023....
Yeah and not just best of EV, it is best of any car.
Soon to be bankrupt.
@@JanNovak-pg8oe Say that in the snow.
@@zog97xyYou mean like they do in Norway and Sweden, EV drivers in those countries don’t seem to have any problems.
@@zog97xyor a power outage caused by very cold weather or on the Tebay services on a bank Holiday lol the list goes on. EV's are now failing because they have run out of clueless ideologues to sell them to.
the opening line. ill never forget it. when i was running a hostel a few years ago, we had a welsh man staying. never in my life did i have to ask someone sitting right in front of me to repeat himself when speaking my native language. turns out he was welsh. your RD line slapped the sm35 out me at that very moment
to add to that, when I was a school kid, we moved from Hampshire to Midsummer Norton down the west country, and it was an amazing cultural shift of only 200 miles, I was 13 and all the kids gathered around me like I was from Mars, and the eventually one of them said to me -- aaghh! where bee eee from bennet. I think it meant(?) where are you from mate? anyway, I soon got to love the accent, and now realize it was the one used in the "Treasure Island' movie about the time I was born. Loved it, and my old school mates down there as well. We emigrated to the wonderful great down under shortly after, and I am looking forward to once again catching up with them after 60 years when we revisit the UK in June!
I had the same experience on my trip to Scotland (from Australia). I must live a sheltered life. 😁
@@TerryHickey-xt4mf yes - we think pirates have a west country accent because of that films or possibly an earlier one. Obviously, they didn't in real life they came from all over the places.
Hardly anyone in Wales speaks like that but there are a few villages and towns where the accent is like Newcastle with poetry. I've had similar conversations, if you can call it that, with Geordies. Received pronunciation is underrated.
Same in Canada with our public broadcaster CBC. They always find someone with a 5/12 battery Nissan Leaf and say “EVs suck because you can only drive 40km”
Big oil money must be good. Alberta economy needs to run!
CBC is bought and paid for not by the Canadian taxpayer like everybody thinks, by every other source in the fuel industry who I am not against,Alberta's economy has to run if not where will the other provinces get natural gas or crude oil to sell to the United States which is more billions per year than we know, here in Manitoba we are lucky enough to be able to have
100 % hydro generated power and don't need natural gas to heart our homes, yet we still do, it is half the cost currently, we can change EV's the cheapest in North America next to Quebec, i would like to own an EV , the cost here is staggering 👍
People who use those short range EVs are still hyped about EVs! Almost all say they would never go back to ICE cars. So, in a way the news are actually throwing shade at ICE cars by pointing to the shorter range EVs that people still vastly prefer over gas cars...
The oil and gas industry is absolutely disgusting.
The oil and gas industries are heavily subsidized annually (100's billions) by our governments. Who is disgusting?
Are these the same disgusting industries that enable your world?
Like the plastics you typed that on from your phone or laptop?
@stuartburns8657 well said sir, these ideologues are just not in the real world. Fossil fuel fuels, feeds, houses and clothes us with it's power and feedstock chemicals and has done for eons. Humanity would be lost and much poorer and hungrier without it.
@@stevezodiac491 Eons? You mean since 1900?
Gas stations in Norway and the rest of Scandinavia are installing EV chargers into most locations.
The oil and gas industry is only delaying the inevitable.
No.....the car buying public will decide!!
Not some bloke in the pocket of the ev industry!!!
@@andrewtorrens947 it's quite a startling statistic that every year Shell spends $250m on advertising, and Tesla spends zero on advertising. If people's opinions are being bought it isn't by those in EVs and renewables.
I hope I’m getting a Leaf tomorrow. If it is still available after I get money from the bank. It is in pristine mint condition used. I’m so excited!!! 😊
Hang-on.....not long to go, its like Christmas eve for you!
Enjoy your new EV.
Which model? We have a 40kWh that’s been an absolute workhorse beast warrior. 200,000km and counting. Only maintenance has been tires, wiper blades, and one 12V battery.
My 8 year old 30 kwhr leaf has lost 42% battery capacity and range, with degradation after only 40 k miles. I would think again ? I wouldn't want somebody else to suffer as I have done. llewelyn had to replace his leaf battery. Who wants that ?
Good luck you'll need it.
Here in NZ my best mate just bought a new one, he loves it, and he is a scrooge ( an nice one though! ). I have an MG which I prefer, simply because of the LFP battery and the more advanced cooling. Keep in mind though, how many Nissan leafs have you ever seen spontaneously burst into flames, -- none.
I agree it is brilliant that there are now 60,000 public charge points available in the UK. But the main quesiton is: How many are _actually_ _working_ ?! That is the big question, as charge-point reliability (Tesla excepted) is utterly appalling in the UK!
And yes, I am an EV owner before anybody asks.
In my experience, the high power 100kW+ chargers have excellent reliability. I have used 20 last year roughly and not found a single one broken. Having said that, it's usually a good idea to stop at stations with more than one charger each just in case one is broken but such sites are becoming more and more common.
Haven't come across a non functional charger yet when I needed to charge (Benelux + France). Have only seen them when I didn't need to charge.
Never found a non working Instavolt charger.
@@rogerphelps9939 That’s US only I assume. Haven’t seen any of those in mainland Europe.
I wrote in and complained to the BBC about an article on EV fires that I thought was negatively biased, particularly the headline. They did acknowledge it and did say they had passed it onto their news desk but there was no justification or suggestion of changing anything. The more of us that complain I guess the more they will be forced to question possible bias.
Hopefully Electric vehicles will become affordable for us ordinary folk who really want to change xx
Keep up the good fight, Robert 😊
In a recent BBC News article they interviewed a car editor (can't recall the magazine) about 'poor' EV sales. He was as knowledgeable as the infamous 'guy down the pub', when asked about Toyota, he made no comment about how behind the curve they are and their obsession with hydrogen. Says it all...
Remember when Jeremy Clarkson just flatout lied about EVs and got away with it when he argued in court that Top Gear is not an information show but just for entertainment?
The usual double talk. What they mean is EV sales are lower than projected. They are still growing. That's not the same as there's no demand. There seems to be a lot of backlash among petrolheads. All vehicles right now are expensive. You want a Toyota Tacoma there's pretty much no cheap base version. Tesla should punt Musk into the boardroom. Let him count his money, and keep him away from day to day operations. Hire back the Supercharger team. And get back to work on an entry level Tesla. One with 60-75 KWh battery. And make it affordable. And put less tech in, have turn signals, switches. buttons and less reliant on the touchscreen. 450 km range would be fine. And have it affordable. And have the supercharger network be able to handle all the Fords, GM's, and other that are building to the NACS standard. Just my 2 cents.
NACS is obsolete. Just a Tesla led cartel. The future is CCS with proper completion, contactless payment just like most other inexpensive things and mega chargers that outdo Tesla's efforts. I NACS is dead outside N America.@@leftcoaster67
Asking a proxy for the oil and gas industry to comment on the future EVs: classic BBC.
Anyone who wants a visual on fracking impact should use google earth and take a look around Odessa TX. It’s staggering
In the process of leasing my first EV I can't wait. It will be home-charged.
The EV rhetoric has increased again so the Fossil Fuel business is really seeing the success of EV's despite their best efforts!
I live in Hertfordshire, and have two electric vehicle charging stations within ten minutes of my home.
The problem is they do not have big signs up advertising their location - you might find there are many more near you if you use something like zap map or the one I prefer - abetterrouteplanner.
Who cares? There are dozens of petrol stations where you can get 500 mile range in 5 minutes.
@@andrewwaller5913 You really think petrol stations are going to be around forever? Over 30% of all petrols stations in the UK have closed in the last 10 years alone. Look it up. And when Supermarkets decide petrol / diesel is no longer a loss leader - they will all disappear practically overnight. You may not have been around when leaded petrol was common place but it all disappeared rapidly, despite Ford claiming they were unable to make unleaded engines.....they managed it.
@2:07 I don't know why you said this. Diesel sales are down massively in April and in all of 2024 so far but HEVs, BEVs, PHEVs are all up compared to 2023.
Some segments are up, some are down... average across all segments is no growth.
spot on fully charged team.
Here in the US, I noticed that one of our grocery stores Whole Foods has taken out all the EV chargers in their parking lots. Someone mentioned that this is due to the insurance company saying they were too close to the building. That is 'rubbish' as you folks would say - at the two stores that I know of, the chargers were >100 meters away.
What people forget about big trucks like that, especially in Europe, drivers stop 2 times a day for rest, and if they can do a fill up just once in those two stops if the on / off loading places dont provide a charge, either way, that is plenty to last an entire day, even doing long haul in most cases, there will be exceptions.
ETS2, a truck simulator will get the Renault Electric truck very soon, and I'm excited for that, but just like in the real world they need to build out the infrastructure for it in the game so its a slow roll out! The game dont have chargers in the world at the moment and its a simulator they wanna make it as realistic as they can do. Other EV's to follow...
The ANTI EV and the disinformation is crazy these days....
I have been following a new motorcycle on the market lately, that everyone has gone crazy over and completely become obsessed with, its a motocross bike so not a street legal bike but its go 20 hp more than any other bike, altho you wont use that, its a bit too much... so 80 hp and it weigh 122 kg I think, its a monster, and unlike other offerings this is a serious bike built to proper racing specs with high end components, its not cheap!
Anyway, my point here is people that has never tried it tell people that OWN the bikes how it cant go anywhere and it will not last and how it rides even tho they have not tried it.
It will do 40 - 60 minutes on track riden by a professional then takes 40 - 60 min to charge with 240V, with you are a amature riding doing it for fun, you can probably get 2+ hours out of it easily and most people cant even do that anyway, its extremely demanding riding even if you go rather slow, I have ridden a motocross bike a few times in the past, its terrifying and very demanding on arms and legs, mostly arms. I'm not sure I've seen anything get so much praise and hype up as this bike and it seems well deserved, from amateurs and professionals alike.
And it comes from Sweden wich has me excited! :D Stark Varg, wich translates to Strong Wolf...
Point being, the misinformation and the things people believe in is just crazy, every news outlet even here keep posting about how EV's are failing and not selling and yada yada...
There are EV fails but that is not due to EV's being bad, its just some has done a poor job with them, poor design...
The Ioniq 5 N seem to get universal appraise, thats the one I'd buy if I was able to right now, dont care for the fake sound even if its well done but what a car!
This is not to say there are no problems, ofc there is... but what cars do not have issues...
The one brand I wont get behind ever, start with a T... Enough is enough!
Because Toyota rubbished ev's and said they would not push them???
Seems they were correct as ALL other manufacturers are cutting back and reducing prices to get rid of them....and the public are STILL not biting!!!
Betamax was regarded as the better system...but the public decided on VHS ....betamax died..in the same way ev's will!!!
The public will consign them to the scrapyard...the government's will back down!!
Batteries burn. Gas explodes. You'd think people would remember that.
Gas only explodes if it's under pressure in a contained environment. Overwise, just its vapours burn, not the liquid. Petrol Cars exploding in a fire is pretty much the stuff of hollywood
The "fully rant show", very enjoyable, thank you.
Commitment and down-to-earth attitude are truly inspiring. Keep it up.
Oh Robert, When you call someone a liar based on data aren't you just a bit responsible to offer your sources so everyone can be as enlightened with facts as are you?
He does offer sources.
@@ryanfraley7113 The link has a quick reference to an un-named report (not study) that indicated that there are more petrol based fires than EV. It made no mention of "Spontaneous" fire data. There was a study in Sweden - bla bla bla is not really a bibliography entry.
I had a Fiat 500e which I parked down stairs in an attached carport and wasn't concerned at all. I have an Aptera on order and if that turns out to be heart breaking then I'll swoop in on an I3 BMW - late model.
An EV fire is a nightmare for firefighters... a lot more than a ICE fire....butvwhy should we listen to those biased firefighters....when we have paid chills for the EV industry telling us how nice a ev fire is...and the experts are wrong!!!
@@unclegeorge7845 no the BBC is a news organisation. They have an ethical responsibility as journalists to do this. RUclips does not, but they do have sources and also have far more content showing the truth than the BBC does. He runs an entire organisation that refutes EV myths like this so he's doing more than his fair share of spreading facts.
Learn to Google as well, if you want to see the studies they are not hard to find because every single body that does one has proved EVs are safer on every front.
@@jonevansauthor I like Robert too. I've watched him since he was not but a wee robot serving the crew of the Red Dwarf. And waited weekly for the next Junk Yard Wars. And I thoroughly enjoy these rants but when we start trying to sound all scientific fact and the like you need to provide a bibliography of one sort or another. The link was inadequate. The mixing of opinion with data in this rant was all too evident for me to simply swallow.
I met my old friends for beer on Friday. They with glee told me EVs sales are dropping. I asked why is this. They said it's because they are unreliable. Too expensive, catch fire and have short distance travel.. As one friend said he would not touch an EV with a barge pole.. I asked him where would he find one of them...
I was not around at the time, but my grandfather was so PROUD that he got a drivers job ( in the UK) as a chauffer for a rich Scottish business man, and in those days there were not many petrol 'service stations' even in England. He always bought back a trout or salmon from Scotland for us young kids, and Dad being the driver, never had range anxiety, I am sure at the time, they were unreliable, Too expensive, catch fire, and have short distance travel and so on. But, we all know now, barge pole or not, that was actually the future. (until the ev future happening now).
Incredible isn’t it, how people will just regurgitate the propaganda. I heard a new one the other day, that EVs are ten x as likely to break down as ICE. These lies are astonishing and not remotely fact-based. Some simpletons think that EVs are disposable, which I don’t get. Others complain about expensive battery replacements yet the cost of a new engine in an ICE is incredibly expensive, and that’s after all the years of failed engine bay components, burned out clutches, etc. I had a Land Rover that blew a head gasket and the car pretty much stopped being driveable as I was heading down a twisty mountain road. But EVs are unreliable - EVs are never going to have catastrophic engine failures. I’ll shut up now.
People will just take refuge in echo chambers reinforcing their world view. I was one of them about diesel. They were awful ghastly smelly oily rattly contraptions - far inferior to petrol. My first Diesel was a Company Car VW Golf 1.6 way back in 1983. And it was all of these things and I was certain petrol was the way to go. Not to mention diesel was not easy to find back then outside a truck stop. But big business had a plan involving Industrial scale fraud (Diesel gate) and suddenly the only option on the company car list was a diesel. My Jaguar XF 3.0 diesel was of course, nothing like the 1983 1.6 Golf. In fact, it was an amazing car in all respects. I was a convert to diesel - until of course, I was invited to test drive a Tesla....
@@user-jt4fy4od9r The thing is that diesel gives more mpg than petrol and that translates to less CO2 per mile. The problem with diesel is the nasties coming out of the exhaust pipe. My understanding is hat catalytic converters have largely sorted that problem out. Still inferior to an EV though.
@@rogerphelps9939 Diesel gives better mpg as it is a "proper" fuel [on average about 10% more range] - petrol was a byproduct that started being burned in cars because at the time they had no other use for it. Petrol has all sorts of other nasties added, lead (not any more due to world health concerns) and also the carcinogen "Benzene". This is what gives petrol its smell - and if you can smell it, you are risking cancer. Just saying. Be real careful when filling your tank.
Diesel does produce particulates, which is a respiratory concern in urban areas, (replacing the soot from coal). Modern Diesel engines do not have catalytic converters, but they do have particulate filters. Diesel emissions are reduced by introducing watered down synthetic pig's urine to the exhaust system (so called ad blue). Yes - really. You must NEVER put ad blue in the diesel tank or diesel in the ad blue tank - bad things will happen. Be extra careful.
Petrol engines have catalytic converters (that they do not necessarily need these days as they are mostly clean burn but required by statute and laws). These converters use rare earth metals such as platinum and so are prone to theft. They give petrol cars that distinct smell under hard acceleration.
There is an argument that all EVs do is move the pollution elsewhere, which has a small element of truth, depending on what is used to generate the electricity. However, EVs are much more "fuel efficient" anyway so produce far less emissions per mile overall. Also worth noting other controversial additives such as "Cobalt" are used in the fuel refining process, and have been for decades.
Honestly, if someone invented Petrol or diesel cars today - they would not be allowed. They keep the show on the road by tacking on this and that, adding more and more complication - oxygen sensors, valves, cleaners, all of which add to the cost to manufacture and running costs. The result is Diesel Gate and soon to be something similar for "Hybrids". Hybrids are the worst of both worlds, rubbish as an EV and rubbish as an ICE. And as expensive as both combined. another Scam I am afraid.
Yes!…. Glad you called out the BBC👍
You lease cars because you can't afford to buy them? Is it significantly different in UK than where I live?
I often hear "Oh lease lease lease, its so good and NOW it actually worth it" And every single time I look at it, it makes no sense!
it cost AT LEAST as much as the payments if I took a loan and bought it, and mostly more - and unlike after the lease is up where you have nothing, the car I buy is still worth something.
I can to some degree see the argument atm where they say the development is so fast, it might be worth to lease for a few years to not buy something that is outdated after 6 months!
Also, leasing a new car every 3 years compared to looking after and maintaining a bought car for 20+ years?
For an environmentally aware channel, it should be clear that investing resources into 1 car is better than investing resources into 7 cars?!
(We know that insurance companies are making it difficult to insure second-hand, ex-lease EVs due to the unknowns about how viable the future risks/maintenance of the EV components will be)
Robert, one thing that bugs me is the lack of competition at charging stations - if there's only one supplier at a site, they can charge what they want!
Competition doesn't push them to reduce ... prices only go up
Same with gas cars. Most gas cars have 300 miles of range or less, so similar situation... The number of gas stations is what creates competition and EV charging stations will grow in number...
As an ICE driver, that sounds very familiar
Shame that situation did not change here :/
When I go to a Shell garage there's only Shell fuel on sale ... what's the difference? But with EVs there actually IS varied pricing. I can pay by tapping a credit card but that costs more than paying with my Octopus Electroverse card or if I have a specific account with the charger site company ... so it looks like there are potentially more options for price competition going on with the EV charging than the ICE fuelling.
It is an issue for those who cannot charge at home but in the UK - Tesla is by far the cheapest and some of their locations are now open to any EV to use. Even with the high prices, it is worth noting it is generally NO MORE expensive than a petrol or diesel. For example, 79p per kwh when the average EV (say) covers 4 miles on a kilowatt - you get 20p per mile. Then take the average diesel price of £1.57 / litre = £7.15 per imperial gallon, divide by 20p and you get 35mpg. This is the worst case - Tesla pricing is less than half so your diesel would need to be doing well over 70mpg to be comparable. Note also that motorway service diesel is £1.77 so again. if you supercharge at services - we need to compare like with like.
You had me at BBC and rubbish! Just got my EV through salary sacrifice, and I love it. There is so much tech for a little price compared to petrol car. Getting my home charger and will see what happens next
you just said it! without government incentives, no EV car would sell! I love my Tesla by the way! But this channel does not mention that, so biased and they get a thumb down from me, period !
I've had an EV for four years, never needed a home charger since my car easily gets enough from an overnight charge on an ordinary 240 v 10 amp socket.
@@phil8830I must be imagining the EV on my driveway because with no incentive available to me there's no way I'd have bought one. Same for my mum and her Zoe.
@@phil8830 There are no longer grants for people to buy EVs in the UK. Salary Sacrifice is a scheme that applies to non EVs as well.
@@phil8830 You want to look into what the Petroleum industry gets from Governments as incentives. I worked in the Petro Chemical Industry for 6 years and it is one big tax fiddle.
Travelling around Europe I have used many different chargers and have concluded that Tesla aren't the best, though they are very good. My fave is FastNed - fast as Tesla, covered by a solar panel canopy to keep you dry when it's rainy and they remember my car and start charging straightaway.
Arrived in San Francisco last week (from London) and out of my hotel room window and across the freeway is an Amazon distribution hub. I would estimate 300 - 400 electric transit vans parked up and on charge over each night I have been here. Returning to LHR on Wed. before driving up to Harrogate on Thursday Afternoon, Jetlag permitting.
Anybody else distracted more than they should be by Robert's un-ironed shirt? 😅😅😅
I wasn't...until I saw this comment 😂now it's all i can see...
Saving power by not ironing 😂
Still unpacking from the trip to Aus
Going green isn't always pretty
It may take me days to recover from this psychic assault on my delicate sensibilities. How could he have no regard for decorum that conservative snowflakes demand. Wait till I tell my mother...
Can confirm the sales of second-hand EVs are booming. 2 guys at work bought used EVs just last week. One had an ex-fleet Tesla 3, the other paid a mere £17k for a 2-year old e-2008 in top spec with less than 13k miles on the clock!
Thanks for fixing the audio! It was perfect in this one.
How have I just found this series?! I've been watching your content for years now! I have so many episodes to catch up on... I loved the commentary and analysis of this video, it's incredibly satisfying seeing someone out into words what I've been feeling about these topics.
Awesome as always Rob, make sure you take your blood pressure meds 😂❤
The same thing is happening here in America. There’s been what appears to be a concerted effort to undermine EV adoption.
I suspect USA is worse. I hear the BS in Southern California!
That's been going on since 2012 or so... As long as the OEMs make money on ICE and loose money on BEV, I'd expect it to continue. Sigh.
Americans love V8s not batteries.
@@andrewwaller5913 there's a segment that doesn't care, they just want a vehicle that can get them from A to B. There is a segment who are not only into performance, but love as you say, certain internal combustion engines. It's an argument for synthetic fuels ( e-fuel ) like Porsche is working on. Obviously the price will be high, but it's a way to let enthusiasts enjoy their car without contributing to global warming. I would say that the majority of drivers, assuming they can charge at home or work, will be content with an electric car.
@@andrewwaller5913 yes I understand. We are part of the Evil Empire spewing smoke into the atmosphere. Never notice how in movies the bad guys are always the ones spewing the dirty smoke into the air?
Hey Robert and team, I wanted to thank you for your efforts over the years. We recently bought our first electric car - a second hand electric car. Because of all your videos, we knew that we wouldn't have to worry about the long-term degradation of the battery (the rest of the car will be falling apart before the battery does) and we knew that buying a hulking big SUV would be daft. Thanks to all your videos and countless podcast episodes, we knew that the car would be sitting still in our car park for 95% of the time, so instead of buying the biggest, heaviest, most luxurious and stupidly fast EV we could afford, we took a good look at what we actually *needed*. That narrowed the field of contestants to a short list of fairly affordable EV hatchbacks and I started doing up spreadsheets, punching in the numbers for different models... until we watched the Fully Charged review of the Cupra Born, with Robert having a go in the lovely dark blue metallic Born with the copper accents. "That one. I want *THAT ONE*", my wife said, pointing at the TV.
So two weeks ago we took delivery of our (lightly) used Cupra Born 58kWh in dark metallic blue with the copper accented rims and we absolutely love it. The battery is plenty for our needs, the dedicated EV platform ensures a surprisingly roomy interior and the EV driving experience is just so much better in every single way than our shaky, noisy old diesel. We're absolutely never going back to a combustion engine!
Robert was key to my decision too. People thought I was brave, but I knew he'd switched 10 years before me.
Could it be that second hand EVs are selling so well because the market is flooded with them? The price has fallen because nobody wants them. Not heard about Hertz replacing like for like.
Thanks I love your honest reporting you call a spade a spade.Waiting for my first E.V this year looks like about a 6 month wait.Hopefully June July.Citroen E Berlingo misses is disabled we need a big boot for e scooter or wheel chair.
Hope you won't be travelling a long distance as the range quoted is a total lie....knock about 70 miles off!!
Year on year, EV sales globally are climbing! Keep telling the truth big man.
BS
@@user-tq1qd3iu2t , well Ben, you could use any number of search engines to verify and show global ev sales are climbing.
@@user-tq1qd3iu2t Hyundai, Volkswagen and Ford have all reported increasing sales. Some manufacturers are down and people are cherrypicking data. Musk is quite a disaster area recently, so hard to take his sales as a reflection on electric vehicles.
@@martindempster6515 Nothing to do with having ridiculous political quotas to meet such that they are registering vehicles just to avoid being fined............and then reporting those figures and selling these absurd vehicles at a heavy discount later........or is it?
BS
You had me at Drongos....😂😂😂
The issue isn't the likelihood of EVs catching fire, it's the intensity of the fire when they do. Followed by the difficulty in putting them out. Even if the EV didn't start the fire, you don't want one of them catching fire in an enclosed parking area burning much hotter than a normal fire.
How do you do it Robert? How do you get so 'angry' yet keep it together and get the message across in such a passionate and clear manner? The BBC 's evident bias makes me so angry i can barely put 2 words together!!! As always ABN is the best, nay, only way to keep up date with what's going on in the alternative technology world!!
Well, he is or was a professional actor 😁👍
Also, editing is a possibility :D
Cheers Robert keep up the good fight
The huge increase in secondhand ev sales is probably the rental market wanting to dump them. No figures for 2024 new sales.
A fully well done charged show. Looking forward to the next one!!!
I was at a BYD dealer to look at the BYD Dolphin.
Same time there was a journalist team from the Dutch BNR TV making an item about . . . BYD EV´s.
They asked if they could interview me.
After the first question, if I was interested in a BYD. the rest were all closed questions, and totally biased against China, not about BYD at all.
2nd question, Wasn´t I afraid of Chinese spying? . . . . answer: No, why should I, why would the Chinese be interested in when I go buy a bread or cheese?
3rd question, But what about the EU car industry, Didn't it worry me that people could get unemployed in VW, Mercedes or BMW factories? . . . answer: no, why should I ?
"If the German car industry was to arrogant to change to EV production in time and let the Chinese get a head start of 20 years . . . . thats just kinda stupid of the sleeping western industries.
China had 70 years of work to do, to catch up with the West, and could never ever compete with them with ICE cars, So they started in the new EV field, and the West kept sleeping and laughing."
BNR TV cut my interview, and made a very biased artikel about the dangers of the Chinese industrial might. They never expected an educated customer.
You sir / ma'am is a hero 🤝
I have to wonder why BYD alliwed them into their premises to film🤔
You may tell yourself that you are educated. You, clearly, are not very bright.
@@David-bl1bt Probably under " false pretenses" 😁😁
@@andrewbroadfort6856 Well, you probably are going to enlighten me 😁
Battery Replacement: One issue I think is that most people don't realize the battery in an EV is different to those in a gas car. If you have been driving a car for 20 years you think it normal to need a new battery every 4-5 years, so it would be natural to expect the same in an EV. So it may not be a conspiracy,, just a lack of knowledge.
There were some serious and real battery life problems early on. Especially the Nissan Leaf air cooled systems that cooked during high speed charging on really hot days. That seems to have allowed the anti-EV crowd a talking point.
except that the BBC love to find stories about the occasional car which does have a battery problem.
@@SeanHoulihane True. It's the same for vehicle fires. LICE vehicles are something like 25x more likely per km driven to catch fire, yet every EV fire is covered by the media as critical breaking news.
I think it's probably more people's own experiences with phones and laptops, which seems to die out after a few years. This is fair, but the usage paradigm is totally different. You won't be likely to totally drain and fill a car every day, then leave it on charge all night, even after it's full.
Tesla has 8 year warranty on their car battery or up to 180.000 km.
That elbow joke... My goodness I loved it and I'm not sorry 😂
Unintentional it may have been, but using the term Slick Lawyers when describing the legal council who represent oil companies, made me chuckle.
I love this Robert - using facts to defeat the anti EV nonsense being pedalled by the media at the moment.
Hmm ... who's to say it's nonsense?
Granted Robert has his own views and opinions but with luck he will see the error of his ways in time.
I'm all for EVs but lean towards those powered by hydrogen in fuel cells or modified head ICEs.
The general idea is to decarbonise our atmosphere before the sea levels rise and we all end up living above the present day 200ft 70 mtr contour.
That said a 200ft rise in sea levels is at the extreme end of the prediction but a 10ft rise is going to render most coastal cities uninhabitable.
That could/might happen by the end of the century.
It's now accepted that this 1.5C target is unachievable and probably the 2C target too.
Lithium extraction and processing isn't exactly "green". Google is your friend.
In short battery EVs are not the answer to a maiden's prayer.
However area battery storage using sodium ion cells, say, might be quite useful.
Facts????....against the fire department!!!
I think they know the danger of a ev fire more than a ex BBC comedy actor!!!
@@andrewtorrens947
Very true.
However, Robert is so enamoured of battery EVs that anything which looks to do the bias confirmation thing for his argument is acceptable regardless.
Most presenters and posters on his platforms have an affinity for battery EVs or heat pumps or "super efficient" storage heaters or some such nonsense.
It's as if they're all heading along a branch of electrical evolution that is already moribund yet they don't recognise the branch is an evolutionary dead end.
Almost as if they were behaving like lemmings (in the old sense that is).
Eventually Robert will see that he was wrong in his views and will accept hydrogen exploitation is the best way to decarbonise our atmosphere.
He will get there.
@@t1n4444 Wrong. EVs are part of the effort to leave a world worth living in to our grandchildren. The Earth is currently headed for 4 deg C of warming. That is a disaster. Do you go around killing random people? Of courde not but clearly you do not realise that you are doing just that by driving your ICE car, The only difference is that the people who you are killing have not been born yet. Just think about it.
@@andrewtorrens947 Wrong. The statistics are very clear. An EV is around 20 times less likely o catch fire than an equivaleny ICE car.
Hertz wasn't all that pleased with their fleet of EV Tesla's and are not replacing them with new EV's.
That doesn’t really make a very good or useful argument about anything. They required cars returned fully charged. That was utterly useless model for customers.
@@MePeterNicholls really? That's insane. But I already knew Hertz can't do maths because any way you cut it, if you buy a car petrol, diesel or EV and can't make money renting it out it's because you did your maths on a napkin while drunk. It's not like they were new to the business. Your explanation doesn't surprise me at all because we all knew it had to be something bone chillingly stupid.
Because tesla lowered the prices and already didn't give good buyback or any at all for hertz et al.
It's not about the cost per km.
Resell value on the private market is better.
Hertz were terrible at providing EVs. I heard they didn't even install charging points.
Great truthful info. I have had my Hyundai Kona EV for nearly 3 years and love it. I usually charge it every 2 weeks as I do about 150 miles per week for a cost of about £16. I am currently on holiday in Anglesey for a week and there are chargers everywhere. I will never go back to ICE. Service charges are nearly none existent and still have the original break discs and pads as the regenerative braking means I really use the brakes to slow just to come to a complete stop. Its adaptive cruise control is also amazing and nearly drives itself .
A 150 miles a week....try that daily and tell me ev's are great!!!
I've just driven my 2015 Tesla Model S from Surrey to Budapest and back. No problems at all.
Clearly you're not one of the lucky people who combine range anxiety with their Acme Bionic Bladder they had installed to cope with driving eight hours straight without stops. :D
I doubt Budapest would even interest you...
We love our electric Corsa
News segment: "Nobody wants electric cars!" The commercials during the broadcast: Ford, Toyota, GM...
There's a reason many companies are backpedaling their EV plans.
We don't have resources to electrify the entire private sector let alone the commercial sector.
Robert forgot that Chyna uses mainly coal to power their electric grid.
EVs have a place but they can't be used everywhere and they aren't for everyone. Forget having the money to buy one.
Robert is lashing out as if he had a war to wage against everyone who doesn't agree with him like every Tesla fanboy. Time has changed him for the worse.
RUclips is showing you ads it thinks you want to see. And me? I’ve turned off ad customisation and get ones about titanium frying pans.
Should be noted that the Luton Airport carpark fire was started by an electrical fault in a diesel vehicle.
I love your Rants. Thankyou. A boost of confidents for me. And saying things as they are. Refreshing
More power to your rants! I admit the BBC can be rather disappointing sometimes. Still a lot better than the alternatives though.
You must be the director general 🤮
I used to have a Tesla, and I spent some time in the garage as I had to get some servicing done over the several years I owned it. During that time, there was a turnover of three different teams in the management side. I don't think Elon is the happiest camper for whom to work.
Elon probably never interacted with that site and the people working there... Anecdotes and propaganda is not reality. His companies score among the top when i comes to employee well-being. Managers, bosses, workers have lower turnover on average than in other large companies... They are at the top when it come to hiring minorities and women into management... top rated by LGBTQ people... Just to point out that reality is not as a few screaming voices describe...
I wouldn’t work for him. He’s dangerously out of control. But that’s possibly a benefit of his Twitter purchase: something to get his attention and tear apart while Tesla and SpaceX get on with delivery
Unlike any other car on the road, Teslas do not have a service schedule - so interested to know what servicing you had done?
@@user-jt4fy4od9r well, if it’s like my BMW iX1 it’ll be recalls. Mine is going in next week for the charge port replacement (water ingress) and once the parts arrive in the UK i hope to get the brake system radio interference risk addressed. Not encountered either of these problems-but it shows that everyone is still stabilising their products. I just wish the cars would make their own way to the service centre overnight
@@SteveLoughran brake system radio interference risk?! You mean the radio can interfere with the brakes? I hope it is the other way around. Many manufacturers are realising making EVs is nothing like making oil burners. Perhaps when BMW organise OTA updates like Tesla there won't be any need to visit service centres. The fix will be beamed to your Beemer over the non-interfered with radio waves! Hats off to BMW for getting on with it though. I wish they had pressed on with their i3 but apparently it was never going to get any cheaper and price was an increasing factor.
Excellent, passionate and well researched presentation Robert! I'm glad I stumbled across you.
Merseyside Fire & Rescue should be thoroughly embarrassed, they look foolish and ignorant
Please, if you mention a percentage follow it up with the actual numbers.
Brittany Ferries also put stickers on BEVs and hybrids because of the “risk”
And they don’t offer charging facilities for BEVs even though they have the infrastructure as they provide power to refrigeration units for crossings
@@GlynBartlett nor should they because food must be refrigerated and medicine too. They're burning fossil fuels to do that at the moment, so it would be utterly immoral to charge your car from that source when you obviously don't need to do that. Maybe it'll become practical when they switch to EV ferries but I wouldn't count on it. People would also run their air con full tilt the whole time so they could arrive in a cool car.
@@GlynBartlettthe ferries to Ireland offer charging: you need to book a charging bay in advance. No extra cost.
I think that one FEAR about ICE cars that not being addressed is the drop in value of an used ICE car resulting from an increase in demand for EVs. If you watch TopGear and other carshows, a lot of people are "warehousing" literally fleets of cars for a time when the value will go up. The EV craze is a genuine threat to that investment.
Just on the hospital fire point, I suspect the issue is the substances used in the sprinkler system not being suitable for fires in electric vehicles, not the probability of fire.
Not the sharpest blades in the box, these Fire Brigade folks.
Tbf when dealing with BESS they are generally fine so...
A couple of weeks ago a German firefighter made a long video just debunking EV myths one after the other. It was great, there was a lot of salt in the comments.
No so easy. They need not only consider the probability of starting of fire, they also need to evaluate the ease of putting out an exististing one. And that is another story with current batteries.
Recently we have had a full EV battery fire in Prague in underground garage without a ramp, accessible only via elevator. It was Jaguar i-Pace, btw. Took quite an effort to put out and evacuate the partially burnt vehicle from that dungueon.
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Jaguar i-Pace's are a know fire starting machine.
@@JanNovak-pg8oe the mistake is allowing Jaguars to be imported to Prague. But seriously, do you think the firemen would have casually walked into any underground car park fire and found it super easy, barely an inconvenience to put out? Yes, they need to adopt new methods but this is not a serious issue since the odds of it happening are almost nil.
10 years ago I bought my first EV, a Tesla, still got it and still love it. 7 years ago I threw my TV in a skip and cancelled my BBC licence, it was bad enough listening to the utter garbage around electric cars and Tesla but I was not going to pay for the privilege.
I pay the licence fee as I like the drama on iplayer, the BBC are rubbish, the young don’t watch it and slowly they’ll get less money. I only watch live sport and thats it….if they’d put it on iplayer and charged I’d pay. The news should stand on its own two feet like the others have to
I only pay the license because my wife insists on watching Strictly come dancing on ice pop star super star factor whatever. It has descended into drivel for the most part. I do rifle through iplayer looking at "BBC collections" from the archives and marvel at how things have changed. I saw a Tomorrows World the other day from the late 60s and the computer they showed had to have the oil checked before you started it! (No really).
Robert, you'll be pleased to hear my Ion (iMiev) has now done 90,000 miles. It had most of its life in rural Wales doing a 45 mile commute, so has been charged to 100% almost daily for 3/4 of its miles.
It's had four sets of front tyres, two sets rears, a brake fluid change, rear transmission oil (0.6 litre) and lots of wiper blades. And that's literally it. Still has 45+ range, huge fun and does 80% of non-winter miles direct from my solar.
Why, why, why would I ever consider replacing it with an ICE car? And that's before considering it's just nicer being in an EV!
Never stop, Kryten, I love you.
1:45 I think Carol Vorderman put it best: "The Nigel Farage/Jacob-Rees-Mogg wing of BBC Management".
If the BBC invites you on to their programmes, whether you agree with their motives or not, you need to accept the invites so counter the anti-EV propaganda rather than ranting this invested audience.
I agree. Practically preaching to the choir ranting to the audience watching this channel. If you want to change people’s perspective/correct the record, accept invites to interviews on channels that spread misinformation about EV’s!
From the sound of it , it wasn’t Robert who made the refusal, Robert just stated his position to the producers and it wasn’t the one they wanted on their show.
I happned to watch Junkyard Wars, and I did not know you were one of the hosts =) Great Show this week =)
Good work Robert, you more or less kept the lid on this time, bravo 😅 although, I could hear the kettle whistling in the background 😂
Im still having trouble convincing my dad to let go of steam engines.
Nice to hear the real truth at last about the oil companies.
@12:47 Robert displays his incredible impersonation skills followed by a mathematical tour-de-force. Truly cataclysmic.
My brand new leased MG4 is arriving tomorrow. It’s the third one to arrive in the village I live in since April. Not the third EV, the third MG4!
Oh, and when I called my insurer, somewhat nervous because of all the headlines saying insurance for EVs had gone sky high since I took mine out for my previous car, I discovered it had gone DOWN, and I was due a refund of £40, after change fees.