Singing & Distortion: 3 Reasons You Hurt Yourself (And How to Be PAIN FREE)
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- Опубликовано: 6 июл 2024
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It's natural when trying to sing with distortion, to do it all wrong! By trying to simply imitate what we hear from our favorite singers, we can easily go down the path to serious injury if we're not careful. In this lesson, I bring to light 3 reasons you might be feeling pain when you try to sing with distortion and then I demonstrate the correct ways to guarantee an aggressive, distorted and PAIN FREE singing voice!
Note to self: do not practice this in line at wallmart
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I laughed so hard when I read this
How else are you supposed to drown out the sound of your Tactical defecation, which ensures you the prime spot on black Friday, so you can Get the perfect Pair of pants to replace the ones you just aggressively shit
😂
That's called social distortion
I'm a professional clarinet player. This is hands down the best explanation for this technique I found. These things are very difficult to transmit. You're approach is the best. Thanks!
Thanks!
Your take on grit and distortion is hands down the best I've discovered on the internet. Keep up the great content.
100% I can actually learn it for the first time in my life
I thought I'd never get to this level of distortion, you made a difference in my life sir! Thank you!
I'm so glad I have a separate garage where I can go test these techniques. Another great video, thank you!
Cookie Monster sounds like kicking in a loud mid scoped over drive for a solo sound ! It works great at home practicing on your own or at sound check but when then the band all fire up at full volume the guitar gets lost in the mix and you end up burning out the power tubes in your amp from boosting all those low frequencies…! Hopefully by the end of this video you will have shown how to get the anatomical tube screamer working to push those mids in the vocals to get it to pop out in the mix…!
How to sing like Howard Jones(killswitch Engage), Russell Allen(Symphony X) or M. Shadows(Avenged Sevenfold.) Love your work, man! Helping tremendously.
Howard Jones would be really cool
Yeah. M Shadows would be awesome. I couldn’t find anything about him on the whole internet 😄
@@NØkturnaI hes an interesting one because he appereantly busted a blood vessel because he was using wrong scream techniques and thats why he sounds whiny on City Of Evil, Its amazing how much he improved after that and its a perfect example of how proper technique is very important
Speaking of weird singing reminded me of Mike Patton. Great example of a singer who doesn't care and just do the best he can.
I always thought the grit from the famous rock singers was just their voice and it was unique. Now with this video I can create much of the same cool grit WITHOUT hurting my voice. Never thought this was possible. Gives me so many new opportunities. Fantastic and really quite easy 😎👊 MANY Thanks Chris🙏🏻🤘
Probably the best video on this topic. Really helpful. Great work!
Love your videos man, Thank you!! I'm re-taking your free course to really get the basics and internalize the feelings of each sound.
I didn't watch this video because i had pain, but because i was unsure if my technique was correct (which it seems it was).
But i just want to say that this is a great video! :)
I wish i would have found this a few years ago when i first started trying to learn distortion (took my quite a long time and a lot of different videos; your's have helped me tremendously (especially the one on Spencer Sotelo)).
This would at least have been exactly what i was looking for - and imagining someone who actually hurt themselves experimentning with distortion, this video would be perfect.
Fantastic video :) - i love how "easy" it is (once you've gotten the hang of it of course) just holding back air. I think that knowing that would help someone new to the subject a lot.
I've been watching your videos about distortion and this the one that made me understand how it should feel.
THIS was so insightful. Step two was something I was messing up with. It clicked for me when I started trying that one out!
This is great. You teach it succinctly. All other videos out there have a lot of fluff and go nowhere. You go stragiht to the point and make it simple to follow.
Kudos! Subscribed
Thank you Chris for these videos. What I love about these scream lessons is that you are a vocalist who knows voice from wide variety of angles, not only from scream perspective, so there's experience and knowledge behind it. That's great to hear really neat sound of clean voice and then aggressive, yet emotional screams.
Awesome! Glad to hear this.
I am super impressed and thankful for your video. For years i thought i was not able to do vocal fry because i had damaged my voice when i was younger. After applying everything you spoke about in the video, my voice naturally produced vocal fry and it didnt hurt or stress my throat at all! I am extremely happy with your videos. I am officially going to be looking through your courses and learning everything i can from you. Thank you 😊
i never knew that i was actually doing distortions correctly until i stumbled upon your video! my only problem is that i sometimes forget to hold that support. now i def understand what I've been doing and can improve on it. your videos are awesome
It's my belief that some voices are better served avoiding distortion altogether. They may not be happy with their own particular distorted sound then overdue it for a sound that isn't their voice.
I agree with this
Really helpful thank you Chris! !
Dude, i just found your channel and i loved. in the middle of a lot videos that promisse teaches how to make a good scream i've found who really did. Thank you so much man, you got a brazilian fan! (sorry for any grammaticals errors)
u da best chris! great reminders
Gosh... I think I’ve been Cookie Monstering a little bit ... This video is eye opening!
Great video ! 1 Million subs before the end of 2020!!!
Hey man I bought a couple of very popular methods on the web (for don’t say the names), they where ok but sooooooo long and always beating around the bush, overpriced I think. Thank you to be that practical and always direct to the point. You save me a lot of time and confusion dear Chris. Now I’m so happy with my distortion that I’m using it even in the shower, and is amazing how I don’t get tired of singing. Thanks from Bolivia 🇧🇴
This is great! I’d love to see a video about how to scream like Spencer Chaimberlain.
How to sing like Jonathan Davis from Korn! You know that would be fun to tackle!
dude this helped alot thanks!!!
Could you do singing in the style of Billie joe Armstrong of Green Day. He doesn’t sound like an amazingly impressive singer but I find it amazingly hard to sing along with him. His voice seems high and low at the same time and somehow it’s easier to sing along with people like layne Staley or josh kizka.
That's how I feel about Bono. Layne, Vedder, Cash, Ian Curtis, and even Freddie are doable but for some reason Bono is tricky for me.
IMO Billie Joe is a fantastic example of someone who purposely makes it sound like he's straining but actually he's a great singer. Verse 2 of Basket Case you can hear this technique clearly.
I think Billie Joe majorly improved his voice from American Idiot onwards.
You are the best!!!
man.. awesome
Chris, Ty for all the tips, tricks and techniques. It helps me a lot.
Would you please do an episode where you deconstruct the singing of Ivan Moody, and perhaps also one on James Hetfield. I'd love that, and it would really help me understand what's going on. Ty again for your generosity and help.
Cheers, Jarno
Thank you
great video bro thx
Thanks!
Sir I dont know whether you'll read this, but I love you ❤ for your generousity , and your amazing voice 🌹 . May the Almighty Bless you ♡
Thank you! I do read each and every comment. I appreciate you for taking the time to watch and comment yourself!
How to sing like sam cárter
Excellent stuff, yet again! Please review the singing techniques and styles of Harry Neilson if you have the time. At the very least please look him up if you've never heard him sing. He had masterful technique.
This was the one. I’ve watched at least 10 other videos (including a couple on this channel) and couldn’t figure out how to hold back air correctly. Pushing out the poop worked perfectly 😂✌️
man, as a brass player who has studied how to breath efficiently to get the most out of a breath, it's scary to think about tightening that space above the fry.
just know that if you feel any pain you should stop! Healthy experimenting is important to good singing though :)
Nice voice and pleasant to watch :^)
Could you explain Rob Halfords Grit ,Screams and voice types please
+1
Thanks chris...this really did help..can u also make a video about working on diction...because i m not a native english speaker...so while a sing in english...at times my regional influence kinda interferes
bless
I love the way how Chris explains things, so anybody can understand, poop out your butt 🤣 Now it's got me thinking of how some singers can switch so easily between clean and distorted voice, like going clean, one word distorted, the rest clean again, like nothing happened. Any advice to practice that?
"Pain free," tell that to my abs, buddy.
ha!
Congratulation
I would love for you to check out Blackie Lawless as a singer and do some analysis of his voice
Hi Chris, great infos again. Could you tell us about tension on the neck while singing gritty? While we sing our neck should be relaxed, but it looks yours really get tense when pushing hard. So what is "good" tension and "bad" tension and how can we differentiate?
Well, damn. I can false cord scream, but I can't get through very long phrases with it...sounds like I may be using too much air. Thank you, Chris.
more support lessons would be great! How and from where to push when making the distortion/grit. How is it supposed to feel? When I'm trying to push I sort of can't help, but tensing up my vocal-chords XD
Love your videos dude!
Thank you! Have you taken my "Free Your Voice" course yet? It's free and ALL ABOUT support! I also go into tons more detail about how things are supposed to feel!
@@chrisliepe Yes, I've taken it, it's great!
I feel like I'm accessing it the right way when I'm belting now. Guess I just automatically go into a different mode when mixing or adding distortion. Think I'll take that course again :)
4:33 😱 is that Devin Townsend 😎
Hey, Chris. This past month has been an adventure thanks to you. If you want I can send clips of progress as I use your techniques and tips.
Also, could you make a video on the difference between "compression/distortion" and "open throat distortion"? KT hit that " subject" but it sounds like a simple belt with distortion added.
Any who, I've watched this vid like 12 times lol. Is it normal to have a slight itchiness in the back of your tongue? Slightly warm. Doesn't really feel uncomfortable, but it feels like some type of mucus. More warm ups, maybe? I warmed up for a good while too.
Oh my! Growlings like Beyonce, Whitney Houston 😍😍😍🤩id love to learn.
Chris im a big fan, love your vids maybe you can help someone with a deeper voice understand something.
My voice is about the same tone as Rag n Bone Man's, but i cant ,for the life of me, find a video that explains how to do his kind of growl/raspy voice that he sometimes uses. The song "Human" being a very good example.
My own vocal coach seems to think that i would never be able to do them.
All the best !
Hello Chris. Thank you so much for your videos. I have a question / suggestion /request............... :)
Since you made few videos on different singers' styles, and since you are The Only Guy On RUclips who's videos on compression and distortion actually make perfect sense...
May ask you to consider making a video on Graham Bonnet singing style? Young Bonnet, Alcatrazz and Rainbow era? He has such a unique distorted and stressed vocals, which sounds as if he will ruin his voice forever any minute - but he actually doesn't, and I wonder, if this is his unique timbre, or perhaps there is some particular techniques behind his sound...
Pretty please? :)
Scott Weiland - his isolated vocal track on Plush that won the Grammy is fire
I think this is the technic that tyler joseph (21pilots singer) use for scream in holding on to you for exmple (in live version)
I'm like this
3 Years of practicing: check
High notes: check
Sing on pitch: check
Sing with distortion without hurting: failing miserably
I just can't do it and I'm happy with that, I'm just gonna keep singing with my boring voice, better than keep trying and hurt myself for real
Have you considered a course or program to help? Here's one I did, and I can help you work with your voice in the context of this content too! www.mymusicalvoice.com/p/the-aggressive-vocalist-s-master-plan-of-attack/
@@chrisliepe Imma check it out, thank you good sir
A,E, sometimes G 🤣
Great vid brother!
Hey, wow, angel voice, rotten corpse from hell grit. Nice video, I like your live demonstrations while you speak.
Please,do some Rob Halford analysis👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Can you do a how to sing like Courtney Love video pls? Love your videos 🙏🏻
What does your throat feel like if you are doing it properly? I do the fry way, but an hour or two after I've stopped, my throat feels a little funny (not particularly sore).
1:33 Christina aguilera
I'm tryin. I'm going the Justice for all James Hetfield type of vocal.
I think I can make a compressed sound but I'm still working on using it in a song. I also focus on the imagination afterwards how I think it feels. I only know that I'm on the right way but I need time.
Yes, it takes time! Don’t give up! :)
@@chrisliepe no, I won't.
HEY CHRIS! I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS!
Could you do something about the technique used by 1000mods - Vidage ? or if you already did it, point me to the video. Thank you so much (:
Could you please upload a vid bout actually singing words high up in range cuz I can't seem to do that 😫 please
I may be mistaken but isn't the veins popping in your neck showing some kind of effort? Thanks for the video!!
There’s lots of effort! But that effort and intensity is able to be present without any pain or unhealthy tension whatsoever because the energy is being being focused correctly. The right vocal mechanisms are being tapped into!
Is that “super grid” kind of kurt cobain style? When you used vocal fry on the other screaming video, did you combined air compression grid + vocal fry? Or you just used air compression right to the point it will grid, but instead of using this grid, you only use vocal fry technique pushed by compression? Btw, very very good channel information. I’m a heavy metal singer from a Panamanian band called Nightwalkers and I found your videos very helpful to improve my clean vocals. I was using a little air compression to grid my clean voice, but when it comes to shouting parts, I’m currently not able to do it, so I following and recommending your channel to other vocalists from my country. Thank you so much.
Mostly hyper compression :)
I have a question, should I hold back air in(by) chest or by chords behind glands? Im dumb and cant understand....Or in the middle of the neck?
Please do Billy Corgan of Smashing Pumpkins
i do the steps but just feel it below my voicebox and it ends up hurting but i can’t get it to project any other way
Hello! This channel has been amazingly helpful for me. I am a woman and have always wanted to sing with distortion and grit like my favorite vocalists, and I FINALLY CAN!! Thank you so much! I have one question! I was able to get the distortion with no pain, but it sounds awfully nasally when I do it, almost comical. Is there any way to fix this?
I'm so happy you've been helped so much! A lot of it is about finding the right placement with other 'areas' of your singing in the midst of the false cord engagement. We work extensively on tone crafting and shaping in my program Sing Together 365! You can join for free at this link: www.mymusicalvoice.com/p/sing-together-365-experience/
@@chrisliepe Thank you for the reply! I will definitely check into that course, not sure if I can join a realtime live course due to being in Japan time zone, though! But I am getting so much out of this channel, I love that you teach vocal techniques used by my favorite artists, most vocal teachers on RUclips only focus on pop type vocals!
I definitely gonna try to switch from cookie monster to vocal heavy lifter haha. Hope that works.
Let’s go now I can sing creeping death without killing my voice
Hey man, do you have anything on how to hold long notes? And how not to get light headed when holding them/ singing distorted.
All about using the diaphragm and compression for breath control. If you’re losing your breath you’re using too much of your head voice!
I cover the groundwork in my free vocal course, linked below the video player!
Chris, I can absolutely ROAST a D4/Eb4 with no pain at all, but much higher than that, I start to feel a little pain in my throat despite keeping the same technique. I have to start pushing in bad ways in order to get the grit up higher. I am a tenor, so I’m not sure what the deal is. What do you think could be happening?
"pushing something out my butt"...that should be a ring tone
haha... make it happen!
I can sing Black Mammoth by Fit for an Autopsy better than I can sing Determined by Mudvayne. How different are the styles in these two songs? I have a hard time trying to fit vocal techniques into specific categories. Is phlegm always going to be an issue whenever I sing this way? No other genres cause these kinds of situations for me.
"Cookie monster is bad." ... Unsubbed, haha.
haha!
Thanks man for the great tutorial. But I’m still struggling with adding the grit to the mid and upper register. Is it just me who find the lower register the easier but the upper register is too hard to use compression?
Ya it’s a trick and takes time to get the feel. It really is a “support” issue and getting that dialed in accords your range. Have you joined my free voice course yet?
Omg! Thanks you so much for replying! I will try to focus more on my support. Btw, all your videos are pure gold and had helped me a lot with my singing. I get more confident too after I discover my mixed voice by watching your video and practice! I have joined it and I will keep learning. Thx for all that you have done man! You are the best!
How do you understamd the difference between holding back air and tensioning your throat?
Tensing your throat happens with the muscles outside your vocal tract. ...And your neck muscles. Holding back air can be done without engaging any external neck or 'throat' muscles.
hey! I don't know if this is in your field or not, but do you know screams? like false and fry? I've looked at other videos, but i feel like your shameless style of teaching would help so much :O
Again, i know its really different but i feel like you'd actually show it properly
Very very good explanation; and i understand everything; actually i have experienced all that feellings on my voice when i use rasp. I have Just one doubt ; you make and feel the vocal fry in your real vocal cords or in your false vocal cords??? Or maybe in your epiglotys?? Or maybe in two of them??
What i think is that the false vocal cords fry distortion feels it above the vocal box ; in the soft palate, and the real vocal folds fry feels it in the real vocal cords. Maybe the two ways are right but different.
What can you tell us about it??
Thanks
Vocal fry happens above the vocal cords. You can feel this if you just go lower and lower in pitch in your chest resonance til you hit fry, and you'll actually feel the vibrations raise in your throat.
@@chrisliepe okay chris . I understand. Thank you for your answer and your advices it really help us so much.
i found out that i can sing with distortion a couple of songs and it doesn't hurt me at all... problem is how to sustain for xmpl 2 hours of singing like this... after 30 mins of singing songs i can't add grit omre. i gottaest and later on everything is fine again.....weird....
How to sing or get grit like Mr. Big's Eric Martin. He has a grit, but it's clearer and sounds painful at times.
Hey...Chris...you tell us where we SHOULDN'T feel it (below the voice box) but I’m not sure where I should feel it. When I do the poop thing and hold back air, my Adams apple placement goes way up, and I feel a buzz around the Adams apple area. I don't feel a buzz in my chest. Sometimes I get the sensation I want to cough, or I may actually cough.
You should feel it HIGH above the voice box. Same place as when you hold back air under water :)
So for you is there no way to use cookie monsters vocals in a safe way?
I'm the exact opposite... I can easily get in safe distortion down low up to about G4 or so... then it smooths out. Very frustrating :-S
I naturally have a distorted voice, pretty raspy, but I can’t belt with distortion. Which I would like… Like layne staley does
I think i got the idea of this, but when i do it and push from below my stomach and get the sound it tickles my throat and feels like im doing better than what i was before but still not quite as 'harmless' Its not as bad but still makes me cough
you might be using more air than you need. Experiment with holding back more air and see how that affects your sound
I think I'm following your advices, but when singing with distortion I'm getting a mild burning sensation. I don't know if it could have a long-term undesired effect.
Is it above or below your larynx?
@@chrisliepe Above
Really interesting, thanks! How do you think James Hetfield used to produce his distortion, I found it the most pleasantly sounding. E.g. on the album versions of Sad but true, Enter Sandman, Nothing else matters (and also live for a short while).
On Black Album he used false cord screaming which is not ruining your voice, on earlier albums he was destroying it by simply yelling. If you wanna know more about false cord technique, please answer ;)
@@radosawwalkowski5824 Thanks for answering, I would like to know more. However I read in several places that James 'blew' his voice at least once after the Black album was recorded and that's why he finally gave up on raspy singing. So I'm not sure he was using that false chord technique you mentioned.
@@xk1390 he blew it recording "so what" on garage inc., my guess is he was also screaming his ass out when singing that
@@xk1390 it may have also been becuase of singing right after drinking alcohol, that can mess up your voice pretty well, because your throat dries and you don't feel pain and using false cord it's pretty easy to make your throat sore. False chord is pretty hard to do, I had to train like 3 months to get it properly. You need to stop right after you feel pain, else you'll destroy your voice
Radosław Walkowski in my opinion James Hetfield’s sang the best en 1989, like in the Seattle 89 concert. My problem is that I can’t reach those high notes, let alone with distortion. Even worse, I can’t cover a Metallica song in standard tuning, I have to do it in half step down, and still I have to make a lot of effort to keep in pitch.
My voice always ending up to subharmonic voice :(
on too much air section
do we need to strengthen the diaphragm?
A little late to this vid but when trying to do compression based distortion based off of you demonstrating and holding back air. Is it normal to cough some while doing it? Like am I holding back too much air or accessing it wrong?
No words of wisdom from the great Chris Liepe?
3:22
I think my voice is kidding me. Everytime I stand in front of my mic I don't know how to practise. When I finish my rehearsal and try it only for the sake of feeling the right placement I am doing better. I think a very big part of exploring my voice is when I am not intending to rehearse. I don't really hurt myself when I try to sound gritty but I feels very strained. I have to develop the right feeling then I will be successful.