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I'm a Trichoderma farmer so my record is one hundy Willy. Eh...eh...!?
Throw it in your garden.
Really? There are actually people who do that, they grow Trichoderma for plants actualy I think to serve in a symbiotic relationship.
But has your trich been contaminated by mushrooms? That is the real question
LOL, unfortunately yes. I threw out a Lion's Mane bag because it got contanimated. The Lion's Mane got over its "illness" and actually produced a few flushes, after plucking it from my compost.
Yeah I find Lions mane and oysters tend to be able to overcome trich. The others.... usually the trich wins.
We had a major outbreak of it where over 40 bags had it. Had to deep clean the entire operation. Dilute bleach, let dry, dilute ammonia, 70% IPA.
Hopefully it stomped the trich spores but I guess we will see in the coming weeks. Innoculating a bunch of bags tomorrow, fingers crossed.
Remember to wear a mask with the steamer everyone! Bleach vapor is bad enough, but it also breaks down to Cl gas when boiled. Willy is right, it will def get the job done, just be safe!
Thank you for adding this!! I love WillyMyco but this definitely an important tip for anyone taking that particular piece of advice, such as myself! I really liked the sound of the steamer option...but was quite sure it couldn't be safe!
White Vinegar in the steamer is trick. so is Hydrogen peroxide
Love your videos man people like you have gotten me back into an awesome hobby I started growing when I was 16 seen a few videos on RUclips and I had to try and I instantly feel in love
Mush love and let life bring you nothing but happiness
I've been composting the past 2 years. This year I'm throwing in my old substrates. My bro works in the food industry, so I get a few boxes of fruit n veg scraps, along with leaves shredded in a trash can. Working great for heavy clay soil
"If you have contamination, do not open your container and remove it from the premises." Overextended video of 20 minutes reduced down the 5 seconds. BOOM!
most professional on youtube thanks again for the clarity and ease to follow these golden nugs of pain saved if you can just listen to this man
My first grow i made 6 jars, then six more after that until i had 16 jars with 14 more to follow. I wanted to increase my chances because of contamination. Now im overwhelmed with shoe box tubs and jars because i had 100 percent success with all the grow boxes. I did not expect to have such luck for my first time. The only issue i had was that six jars of lions mane got contamination but i think its from either switching brands of rice or a contamination in the syringe. Did agar using the oven method as well as culture slants and got about 30 out of 65 clean agar plates and about 15 out of 20 slants. Other than that its gone extremely well. Your videos, pgt, micophilia, micotropic and 90 second mycology are how i learned how to do this. It could not have happened with the success that ive had without all you guys. Its priceless information and i often recommend all you guys for anyone that wants to grow mushrooms no matter what species or style.
That's hilarious! I did the same thing and had 0 problems. It's been a few months now and I'm still getting fruits from my first grow. It gets out of hand real fast when it all goes flawlessly.
The best thing you can do with a molded slab thats about to fruit or already has is set it outside in a hole. Ive gotten completely safe fruits outdoors from slabs that developed trich after the first flush. Its like the mold stops in its place. I also sometimes just dump it and see what I can get from the bottom side of the slab once it funks on top.
It's probably the oxygen and other gases that is present in the fresh air that kills the mould, sunshine also has a very strong bleaching effect that can kill mould but not mycelium, my 2 cents.
This happens with plants too, especially houseplants but any plant in a pot. If it starts to rot there’s likely fungus, plant it in ground and boom, recovery in no time
I believe this is because their is a more complex system of symbiotic organisms to keep the contamination at bay. Instead of a system (the tub) that has only two organisms (your mycelium, and the contam), we have thousands of different mutualistic partners that will help ward off infection.
@@looks-human Yeah, full fresh air stifles mold. Trych is great for soil too! Weed growers use it lol
Trich is everywhere, it's very beneficial for plants. I grow plants indoors and can't even keep them in the same room or my grows get contaminated. In the wild it's easier for the mycelium to take ground from mold and bacteria because there's "room for everyone".
A common source of tams is not venting the PC correctly, which is CRUCIAL. Its easy to overlook and not talked about as often but hopefully can help someone out there dealing with the mean green
What do you mean venting the pc correctly?
@@gregmcb5305 Letting the steam come out of the valve on the pressure cooker for ~10 minutes with the stove on HIGH while the water boils before you put the weight on it. Different brands of pressure cookers might be different but the instructions should have a page about venting
Yea man I’ve been using my auto detailing professional steamer to sanitize my tubs and tents when i need. It works amazingly. Happy to hear you mentioning it!
Wich brand are u using? Do you drop som bleach in it or just steam?
Wow
My record with colonizing grain is almost spotless but after spawning to bulk that's where things invariably go wrong. I've probably got a 30% success rate at that point.
Right there with ya. I've been scouring the web trying to find a decent answer....steam cleaner is in my cart on Amazon...
@@14halogod I'm gonna try a dilute chlorine wash on the tub the next time...
Furnace filter taped to a box fan, and a can of lysol will do wonders
@@Matzieu1 Since this posting I've managed to get several clean grows. Turned out I needed to clean the manure of sticks, stones, sea shells, the odd bits of feed bags (don't ask me, I'm not a cow). Each one of these can protect contams from the pasteurization process. I also put a HEPA air cleaner in the grow room
I'm super glad that so far every video I've seen of yours you have encouraged people to use agar to help avoid contamination. Keep up the great work mate, thanks for all the information.
I keep getting Trich from my coco-choir Everytime & it's pissing me off to the point to where I'm about to quit all together because I can't make it past that point.
Recently found a trich grain in the bottom of a popcorn jar of Burma. First contam since I have started (about a year so far) other then a small but defeated patch of cobweb on some agar that some peroxide droplets killed. People say “let it fight it out” and honestly the mycelium was “winning” in this trich jar,but even I as an amateur know that it isn’t really winning anything. That mold or contamination in general will be coexisting inside of the mycelium getting stronger and stronger until you spawn it or it will eventually chow down on the mycelium as food. Then your tubs will be infested and you will get zero to little fruits because all of the energy is being exerted into fighting it off,plus you will get a lifetime of future contaminated tubs. Definitely not worth it to be nieeve and act like it’s nothing. Don’t put your precious mycelium through a lifetime of struggle. Put it out of its misery and maybe the mushroom gods will make their way back around to ya 😏😎🙌🏼✌🏼🍄❤️
I love saying knocking up some grains much love bro lol
VERY very helpful- thanks, Willy!!!
If you use honey to soak your grains and to make LC .... Honey is an antibiotic and it supports the immunity of the spores and myclium since I've use honey I've had no contamination yet
I think I’ve found that at least when growing cordyceps (which like alkaline ph) using alkaline water to prevent mold seems very effective since mold apparently needs an acidic environment
What ph are you going for?
Great advice from a really great human. #TTF
Ty for sharing your knowledge & experience 🍄❤️🍄❤️
Just TOSS OUT THE JARS !!!!!! Not worth the hassle . Geeesh . The jars are less than $2... Still a fan since the beginning. Somebody please prove me wrong . 👽🍄✌🙏
When reusing canning jars you can sterilize two ways before use, 1.Bake clean jars in oven at 220 degrees for 20 minutes or boil in hot water same. Don’t throw away fears ever, maybe lids
Willy. Love you man. You gave me my start into myco.
Great video, thanks for sharing
this is great thanks for teaching
If I catch contamination in a jar, I re-run it through my pressure cooker but I run it at 17-19psi for 4 hours. I still go outside to open the jar(s) just in case but being that I live in the city I just need to dispose of them in a black plastic bag. I have thrown out a few jars that got "too far gone" but I don't let them get that bad anymore before throwing them back in the PC to try and kill whatever is thriving in there.
You're probably naturally selecting pressure proof contams 😭😭😭
@@zyern2822 tbh if it can survive average 18psi for 4hrs then it deserves to live.
@@TheSaltyOG 😂😂😂
Same here...but 20 psi, 2 hrs
Love n peace from England my friend. Trichome mould is killing my mate x
Don't open the jar. Pressure cook it closed, then take outside. Never open the jar...inside or out,until you've killed it.
This man is a legend n his channel is great n very educational for mycology. Helped me alot on my 1st grow
So can i
Thank you , this was very informative.
Use strains or variants whatever ya call it that are hardy. Makes a huge difference for a newbie growers confidence
If my jar has black mold in it the whole damn thing is going in the trash.
Once you go to fruiting you’re completely safe though right?
I have BLACK MOULD in my flat.
I've been Fighting it back but.. it is around for sure.
"goddammed contaminations" well said Willy!😁
Great video again but you missed a very good protocol step! Before you ever take the mason jar outside or open it, put it back in the pressure cooker and sterilize the mason jar. Let cool, take outside to compost pile. Etc.
good idea...1 or 2 jars...and i throw them away
Ducking genius my guy
I have a serious problem with contamination. I've lost SO much from contam.
So rookie mycologist cut his contamination out, I'm new to this got a contaminated bag and cut it out too, So I've contaminated my whole house this is ridiculous man.
Something else to look into, although I can't confirm its efficacy, is Ozium air sanitizer spray. Unlike an air freshener, it's actually less dense than air and floats around killing airborne contaminates.
I have a spray bottle with bleach water I spray everything with, seems to work well.
10:1 also works for all the preppers out there. Ten parts water:1 part bleach will sanitize anything. Meaning that if you want to store a large amount of water long term then add a few drops of bleach. No algae or water based contaminants will survive in your water supply. You may have to treat for chemical contaminants like farm run-off and such. But the main Idea is that after you clean you then rinse everything in a 10:1 bleach solution and let it soak for 10 minutes before you use whatever paraphernalia you have just sanitized.
Thank you for this
Problem is bleach water is awful for your digestive tract even in the correct combinations because it kills off your good microbial organisms in your gut. This can lead to long-term issues that could be way worse than drinking bad water. Just boil your water and you will be fine
@@ricardobrandon4257 it might work for mushrooms but don’t do this if you’re gonna drink it it will kill off your microbial bacteria in your gut (the good kind that you NEED) this can lead to long-term health issues that are worse than drinking bad water. Just boil your water and you will be fine
makes a lot of sense to put liquid culture & MSS on agar first. i never heard that before. how does one do that? just put a few drops on the agar?
I might have mold but it’s very difficult for me as I’m colorblind and a little slow 😢
People that ain't clean boggles my mind
Wow this was extremely helpful. Thank you so much! Subscribing ⚡
any suggestions for demolding a house? the basement has a lot of it :)
I got my first spores a couple months ago from you. And while I have had one successful grow, I have had close to 10 others that I've lost due to contam. Mostly bacterial, but more recently I ended up getting cobweb mold. Unfortunately I did not know that it was cobweb mold until I had already set the tub to fruiting conditions. So the closet that it was in is likely filled with spores. I typically do all of my work / inoculation in a closet that I have built out to be a lab. It is separated from the room that the contaminated bin was in by a hallway. As long as I still follow sterile techniques, and don't disturb the air too much, is it still worthwhile to try to do this at home? I will be doing everything that I can to sterilize the area, I just fear due to the cobweb mold spores getting out, my entire apartment may be screwed.
I been watching your video for years 🤣 I think still have u on Instagram.... I've always used ur videos to explain to my friends the to-do's. Lots of love for your vids🍄
What’s you opinion on ozone gas and ozone generators ?
Im humidifying hydrogen peroxide 50/50 mixed with water every few days . Crossing my fingers but seems like a great idea so far.
I use a 4' UVC light mounted over my workspace and run it for an hour before I go to work. UVC is dangerous to people so I run it in an empty room. In my tent I use an ozone generator that runs at night for a short time. This also is hazardous to humans so you must wait an hour before entering the tent for the ozone to convert to CO2. This is on top of the standard surface cleaning that goes on.
thank you for the great knowledge bro!
For grain inoculated from spore, in jars, with wheat berry, I have had very good luck when I use a pre sterilization technique. I like to let the grain sit for an extra day after a short boil, then soaking and draining.. I know. Gross. It gets sticky, and warm and ready for whatever was on it to grow.. yes. I Imagine that whatever has landed on it or was in it can readily germinate, and does.. Then I sterilize/pasteurize. Breaking the spore shell material with the growth process as well as pcing.
My question is, do you think I am affecting endospores as well as the common mold/ bacterial spores present in this process?
I used to sanitize beer brewing equipment with iodine sanitizer. Would it work well enough for mycology? As much as a bleach or peroxide type sanitizer?
How does iodine affect mycelium?
Love to know the story behind the mask, appreciate all the information you provide us with 👌
Thanks #TripTeamFamily #TripTeámFámily #TTF Mushlove and respect 🍄🛸👽
Mush love my brother
Thoughts on powerful arch lamp uvc?
I zap my work area with UVC lights to kill those contaims
Good info about the steam cleaner.
U got a good brand or model to recommend willy?
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I Can't Get My Mano Tub To Work So I Just Have It Sitting Here With Mansoon Solo 2 And Same Fan And Can't Figure It Out
Trich starts off a brilliant white, almost whiter than myc, before it goes green and starts to sporulate. If you manage to spot it before it goes green you can cut it out successfully.
Do you salt or peroxide as well?
@@larrywoofter7571 nope, I just cut it out making sure to include a couple inches of uninfected cake with it
Just found your channel, in the midst of my first grow ever after getting my cannabis grows on point moving on to shrooms. I got one flush so far but they don’t seem to be potent so here to learn what u got Willy 😊
You could prep a tub of 70/30 water/bleach to open contaminated jars, if you have more than a few. But if it was 1 or 2, I’d stick with dumping outdoors and bleaching then PC.
Do I detect a Chinese accent from the Fuzhou region?
Willy, whats the plan available in your Patreon that I could watch all the videos that you don't launch on youtube? Thanks
any reason you took down the slurry tek video? Is it because of high contamination??
I see moisture build up on the inside.... that has nothing to do with the contam?
I just had the same damn thing happen to me didnt test LC on agar due to lack of flow hood but yea learned the hard way. Had to throw away grain...
I pressure cook the jars before I open them.
I'm CostaRican... I think I missed you :(
So I gotta ask are the filter discs on Amazon good cause I have used great sterile technique but I have had a huge trich problem over and over and over and over. Getting an 90% contam rate so from here on I plan on cleaning all jars again I've been using alcohol to clean them which I'm sure is as good as bleach mix. Jars have gotten to expensive to toss after everyone canning during covid. I am doing agar on every lc syringe now too. So I am asking if the filter discs advertised as mycology filter discs cut to the size of wide mouth jars that can supposed just be put at the top and do good but if the filter isn't effective that would make a lot of sense cause I have been very sterile
I'm sorry you cant afford a case of jars
@@Enochulate88 when it's 90% contam rate and you have 76 jars that's kind of a waste to just toss them but I did solve my problem myself 😂
I always get trich after spawning to bulk. Never had a jar contam yet. If I just put the jars into a sgfc I have no problem. About ready to just give up on monotubs.
I'm having trouble with monotubs in a tent. I used to do them in a Martha and that worked a lot better
Are you using coir?
@@Andrew-co6ye Coco coir, vermiculite and gypsum the big 3
Hi Willy mate! Can you tell me pls, is it safe for mycelium if i'm doing my transfer/inoculation work under a UV light?
safer for it than you... ive thought to try causing some mutations with uv...one day anyway
Could it be from the grain too?
Hey Willy! I'm currently trying to follow one of your Straight to Base guides that have been re-uploaded, and in it you mention letting the Jar with the concoction inside sit in a pot of hot water that you change every 3 or 4 hours, I was just wondering if hot water from the tap would be hot enough, or should I boil water and use that? thanks
I love the video great ideas all the way around there's one thing that I was very concerned about see most people think that it's okay to clean black mold with bleach and which that's not okay because black mold uses bleach as in nutrition as soon as it comes in contact with bleach
I just got nailed with some cobweb mold!!! I'm new to all this, still dont know what im doin ..but I'll never quit...I'll get it right if it's the last thing I do....it all looked pretty good until I put my grain spawn in my substrate!
What does it look like?
@@jasonlg83 I've since figured out my ERROR!!! I was sterilizing my substrate...an trying to make tubz....now I'm pasteurizing my substrate an having GREAT SUCCESS!!!!
@@slingblade0085 so the answer is you heat it up and cook it to much? But now you don't go over 80 celcius ?
willy i am still really new to this. I ordered my grain spawn and it came with green mold needless to say i was pissed i paid for a sterile bag and it came with green dust in it. I will be making my own from now on lesson learned :)
Curious… what do you use your compost for?
Thanks for da knowledge
Can anyone clear up something I've been hearing that if you get trich and bury the cake in soil or dirt the dirt can handle the trich and grow the fruits. Is this a myth?
I have never used vermiculite in jars or tubs
Youre a god damn hero my guy!
7:22 to save a crap load of time discarding contamination. Get a trashcan full of bleach water and open the jars underwater triple bagged in pillowcases.
MFin Contam! Man Stays on Target 🎯
Willy, I had grown some mushrooms for a short time about 13 years ago and i want to get back into it. I am having trouble figuring out where to start. Can you help me out please?
I can help you. What's your email
I never understood why the hell the mushrooms grow in the wild with all the elements. But when u grow at home you have to be sterile as hell. I don't understand that?
How can I go to Trip-O-Ween?
What about small spots of yellow with condensation?
I gotta go to a tripaween I’m my lifetime sounds like hella fun
Thanks
I have been wondering about bleach and mold, a few searches still recommend vinegar over bleach at killing mold.Bleach is amazing at killing bacteria but how good is it actually at killing mold? H202 is also pretty good at knocking out bacteria and algae, I tested 35% h202(strongest I could find) and sprayed the cakes, it didnt slow the growth of the fruits, it looked like it increased the growth.
Did you dilute it with water or just mist with straight 35% Hydrogen Peroxide?
@@franco634 straight, was concerned about a an area that might have been mold(but wasnt in the end), the cake was near to its end anyways so just thought I'd try it out
@@bobrobertsNotUrBob Good to know. Thanks so much for responding. Happy growing.
Thanks willy
Can you make a Playlist for grouping of certain videos. Pls 🙏
Theoretically speaking, why couldn't a contaminated jar simply be sterilized in an autoclave, and, then be innoculated again with original, sterilized contents? Thank you.
Trichoderma is pronounced like "trike-o-derma" not like tr-itch, or however you said it. So when it gets abbreviated to trich, it's pronounced like "trike".
Hey does anybody know what happened to that RUclips his name started with an A and had 666 in it that grew mushrooms? Can't seem to find his channel at all.
My 6th try in all in one bag. Contaminated everytime. I just want mushrooms. I want to give up.
I want to go WIlly!!!!
I'd also like to comment on the safety of the mold spores. When your living your life and walking around earth, there's mold everywhere and you breath it everyday. Your immune system takes care of it but if you grab a handful of mold and puff it into the air and take a big breath of it, it will get you sick no matter how badass your immune system is.
You speak your opinion as if factual.. Know what you are talking about please
@@armandofernandez5818 I do know what I'm talking about.
can you do an updated pillow case tek?