Dealing with Contamination
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- Опубликовано: 25 июл 2024
- In today's class, I will go over some common contaminations you may encounter with mushroom growing, as well as some tips to help deal with contaminations.
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“If rice too wet, you fucked up” 🤣🤣🤣 That cracked me up!!! Awesome vid, thank you Sensi 🙏🏻
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I’ve had 2 successful grows so far thanks to your tutorials PGT. My mental health is the best its ever been
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Change dat name to shroomhead den bruh
@@tamie341 this lol!
First time and trichoderma is fucking me. Sad days, boys. Sad days.
@@JeffarryLounder MGP TrichEVICT by DrMyc might help
good to see ya back Philly, that rice too wet clip had me dying
Uncle roger 😂
You facked up! 🤣
I know right!😂
Too funny!
I had to rewind Uncle Roger 3 times!!
You were my teacher when I started with Broke Boi tek.
Now that I'm a aspirant to mycologist, I still look at your videos once in a while to remind me how good you are at doing this.
I remember thinking that agar was too much trouble, and then I learned it from you and it's now the part that I like the most about growing.
I'm glad to see you have such passion in mycology, I wish you the best on your journey 🙏🍄
The old adage "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure" rings too true 👍
Been waiting for a new PGT vid! Best myco content on RUclips!
By FAR the best. Really makes it very easy and simple and adds just the right amount of humor to it all
Big facts
Dr.Phil! You can catch Trichoderma early before it turns white or sporulates by shining a UV light around and on the tub. For some reason the Trich is fluorescent under UV in its early stages when it is still safe to cut out. Definitely give this a shot and let me know how it works for you, works like a charm for me👍🦧
Good tip, haven't heard that one before
Going to try that
Does any uv light work?
You mean black light ?
@@phuckyoutube5927 black light = Ultra violet light
The Uncle Roger clip had me dying!
Same 😂😂😂
You're certainly right about it being disheartening for beginners. It took me over a year to get my first flush and now I'm at the 18 month mark with a failure rate of under 50%... Which makes me happy. I'll be very happy if I get it down to 20%.
As I now have my own liquid culture 'lines' at least I can comfort myself with the fact that failures don't actually cost much in cash-money terms. And it's all good fun anyway.
Thanks for the content PGT. It's some of the best 'shroom content.
Air quality can be very important for contam. If your house air filter is old, change it.
Also you can open a couple extra agar cups outside your workspace to contam (on purpose) so you can get a visual on what baddies you are competing against.
i Often leave 1-2 plates right undernearth my TV to collect dust and contams just to see whats out there!
My 9th grade science teacher showed us how to do agar plates, these huge ones the size of dixie plates, then pour our own and culture them from our right hand and our foot of choice. that was neat to see.
Good idea as some times it’s hard to tell iv found genetics play a big part well for smell anyway as I now come to relise that if they smell almost like cucumbers there find I’d like really sour like Red Wine big no no But a lot of people see the tiniest bit of Blue and they think on No I’m fucked a lot of its bruising it’s the nasty wet Rot ect that starts off that horrible Green mild Tri, I Mainly go off smell I mean I Inject with as less MSS as Possible if 1kg of Millet 2/3cc Spores go along way! People think more = Quicker no it will take longer if anything along as your Sterile & your Spawn is Decent no Shitty smell “it can smell a tad odd like cucumbers as I mentioned! & I generally buy my Sub in bulk as I do not have a PC! Once I have that Bye bye Contam as I have found a Tek that works and Prefected it I mean anything can happen with fungi but give it as best start as poss u should have no issue/Check regularly but not to much Wear a Mask/Gloves when moving it around ect or fanning the Tub im a rookie still on my 4th Tub & Since my 2nd iv had nothing but Big juicy Flushes! As a Good friend who’s been doing mycology a long time said Find a Tek that Works Best & Easy for you then Prefect it! It’s when u deviate from other tek to try another will all get complicated u will most likely get stressed out and think this isn’t the hobby for me, Just have Patience 5/6 weeks is not that long u will be harvesting by the 6th week maybe the 4th depending on genetics again. ☮️🍄💙
Excellent work, Philly. You're doing so much good for our cause. You're bang on re everybody having to deal with the dreaded contams. Much appreciated sage advice, huge thanks.
Perfect timing for this video. Thank you!
perfect timing! Thanks for posting a new video!
Uncle PGT, I so proud of you. You no use rice cooker but Sensei know what he doing. Fuiyoh!!🚀
PGT so good to see and hear you back!! Awesome video, just what I needed man!!! 🤘🏾🤘🏾❤️🍄🍄
Just now getting ready for my first grow! Your library of information has been of great help, thanks a lot. Cheers
Thanks for sharing this Philly and I'm happy ur back sir 🍄👍
I’ve done my research online and your channel is probably the best with do’s & don’t’s of growing
Your videos are so informative, concise and well made that I couldn't help but watch all of them upon discovering your channel.
Very helpful part about the wet rot with the grain jars. Just went through that myself.
This is awesome and extremely helpful for new cultivators. I shared this on Reddit for you as well hoping that others will see it.
Mush love.
Finally man I been asking for this video since I started watching you amazing bro keep it up thanks I appreciate the time and effort that went into this video and it was very helpful 🙏👊🏽👏🏽
Thank you for all the info it has HELPED ALOT.
Hey PGT glad to see you back i hope you got better. I love your vids.
Your the goat PGT, keep up the good work, I recommend your videos to anyone with questions
Miss you PGT can't wait for some more amazing videos to help me with my research thanks heaps
Needed this, and right now, welcome back
Perfet timing, great as usual, thank you
Thank you so much for all the great info you put out here!
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Nice to see you your the man so happy your back I took a break for the summer but now your back so am I then mush love and smiles
Great visual examples. Thank you!
Glad your back and just in time i lost 13 boxes recently to green mold
Thanks for the video, PGT. In my experience, contamination is usually a result of too wet conditions. I also never recommend anyone mist their casing layers, before the 3rd flush, as this greatly increases contam risk. The casing layer should have enough moisture to produce several flushes.
Could you make a video about how to dunk the tubs for more flushes?
Just found your channel. I love your content. Would like to know the pro's and cons of grow bags vs. Bins if you are willing.
Thank you!! I enjoyed it very much!
Exactly the information I was looking for. Thorough and yet concise ;-)
Hey bro, thanks for all of the awesome free info.
In early 2020 when the forums were down, I was just getting back into Mycology after a 10 year hiatus. I quickly learned that almost everything I previously knew, was outdated info. Your videos really helped me get caught up, and growing some of my dream genetics. Keep doing the good work!
You’re not alone. The days of cow fields and only tubs are long gone.
dude hellyeahhh philly good video! def good for starting growers and og growers who feel sad after getting contam. I have a big video suggestion! I think you should start a series of videos diving into shroomery and looking at posts that are asking really common question any grower has and giving it a answer that people can really use rather then the 1000000 of answer that may or may not work/help people. thanks for all the videos dude will keep up the good work!
Glad your back and just in time too, i lost 13 boxes to green mold recently
I want you to know I've watched all your videos and just harvested my first 2 tubs, totalling over 4oz dry 😊
@@dakotacommissaris2210 56 qt I believe
Yo can I ask what strains you used.
Also for a 56qt tub what was the weight of your grain spawn to sub
Thanks Philly and welcome back
❤ thank you! Love the info. I’m getting ready to start my very first spawn
That's awesome. I wish you the best on your journey 🙏🍄
great video. thanks for sharing!
As always you have expanded my education which I will use to combat contamination. I have made progress and it truly is challenging when considering each minute particle; where did it come from, why, how do I mitigate, does it need to be acted upon immediately, what areas am I not considering? But, I find it somehow fulfilling. Thanks again dude.
That was very valuable...thank-you!
Thanks for your awesome videos 🍄
I love how you slide past the L in the word mold. Your voice cadence is one of the main reasons I watch your videos. Keep up the amazing work man.
3:13 trichoderma scared the shit outta me so I called poison control and I learned that it's really safe actually. We deal with it all the time in our food and other parts of agriculture. The only thing you really need to worry about is that it can cause similar effects to black mold where it would make it hard to breathe. This is something to worry about if you're immune compromised or if you have some sort of breathing issue such as asthma. You do wanna do what Philly tells you when it comes to growing mushrooms.
@@arkfoodle. That’s a Penicillium species on bread and cheese. Trichoderma is a common soil fungus though so it’s spores are pretty much everywhere and right at home in mushroom substrate.
Good tip. Me and a friend are mid journey now and he has asthma. Knowing this makes me sure I should deal with the contaminants.
what about if your fruiting tub is contaminated with trich? can i take a spore print of the mushrooms or should i not bother? can i reuse the trich tub (after thoroughly cleaning it with alcohol)?
appreciate you as always!
Love the air purifier tip, thank you!
It helps! 🙏
Good Job. Thanks for helping us out . Appreciate it.
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Glad your back!
A good tip for the air also is Ozium. Yes the stuff you used in highschool to mask the smell of you smoking. Once you have still air you can use it to kill off any airborne contaminants.
It’s one of the only actual disinfects for the air I know of. It smelling nice is just a plus.
@@CornPopsDood You do not want to breathe in this stuff. Follow the directions on the can. You still need to air out the room. Personnally I would spray it in my ac system and then proceed in 30 mins after you turn off the system for the house.
That Green mold is what I had first time I tried to grow mushrooms didn't try again for about 6 years
I was getting worried bro thought you went on a permanent vacation glad to see you're back
Appreciate the continued encouragement, PGT.
First time gourmet grower here, and I ended up with contaminated spore syringes from what was supposed to be a reliable vendor. Initially lost a dozen pint jars to contam. Wasn't until I got some agar that I was able to get some healthy spawn started. Everything is running smoothly now.
So for any other newbies, don't be afraid to branch out to agar, G2G, or making your own LCs. I'm a complete newbie and have had nothing but success since I did.
Most spore syringes are gonna have some contamination. Just part of the game my friend. My advice to you if tonspawn your syringes to agar THEN transferring clean agar to your grain jars. The more agar you inoculate, the greater your chances for success. My first grow I poured and inoculated 11 cups, and only needed 1 to start my first flush. The others are out away as back up in case my jars get contamination. Like he said in the video, the more you increase your odds, the better. You are playing a game where microscopic organisms are involved, organisms you cannot see or detect normally so its honestly all part of the game I wouldn't blame your source, although I'd have no way of knowing if they are legit or not but contams are normal with spore syringes.
Lol sorry only read the first half of your comment didn't see you mentioned agar
@@sheeeitmayn4384 do you just spray the multi spore syringe to the agar ? Or do you have to do anything first ? Thanks.
I did g2g and got the same grey mold contam in either of my jars. Luckily mycelium seems to be kicking its ass right now, but we'll see.
@@sheeeitmayn4384 Well said... That's why PF Tek is so perfect for using spore syringes directly into jars. They are tiny jars. If you do enough of them, you will get some winners while expecting some contaminated ones.
In that small size jar, contams will hide but be overtaken remaining hidden when the jar is quickly colonized (because of the massive amount of spores). The PF cake can fruit multiple times without you ever even knowing of the hidden contamination. The problems manifest when you try that on a larger scale or use that grain to innoculate more jars.
Anything larger than PF Tek requires learning some agar to make sure you are starting with clean mycelium. Or, you are relying on luck for success.
No Pour Method. (look it up on Shroomery)
I found that in the beginning with agar, you can start out doing a "no pour method" with the screw-on PP food containers (small size Tasty Plates?), from the grocery store. They work great. I pour unsterilized agar into them, close them up loosely, then pressure cook them. They hold up well in the PC, and then you don't have to worry about contamination happening during the pouring process (because they are already poured).
Watch out, the lids must also be PP-5 plastic or they WILL melt in the PC.
I resorted to this method after buying contaminated disposable plates from Amazon. You get full control over the sterilization process.
Just my .02
Very informative and well made sir
Appreciate the help!!
Thanks for the great videos !
Great vids very informative thanks
great info helping me out a lot
Your videos have certainly helped me
- Today my first signs of Mycelium grew on 9 agar agar plates I made from scratch on plastic cups.
- 3 jars of rice are colonized about a 45% at a great pace and with no signs of contamination.
- Both of these were made from BO spores I had, on a glove box and following the Broke Boi Tek.
Hoping that in two weeks I'll be able to mix my jars with coco substrate and start fruiting in a month.
I have no words to thank you for this amazing work and I hope you can keep uploading this awesome content. A huge hug and much love from Colombia teacher Philly
i think you meant to say you have blue oyster spores you used
@@dylanohlhauser1026 I said BO to make it short but yes ;)
Hahaha, thank you!
Update: First shoebox incubating
Greetings from sunny SW Florida. Thank you for this. I am starting growing gourmet mushrooms and have learned so much from you. I joined discord but sadly this ol lady hasn't figured out how to use it yet... Lol have a super day
Thanks for another inspiring video. I'm wondering, is there a lab term for those elevated and perforated, metal ledges/racks in front of your filter? Thank you again. Good show mate.
Ty so much for the awesome info
Very great info!
The q tip test saved me from throwing a tub. I was thinking bruised mycelium was contam to and almost scrapped it.
would love to see pgt come up with a lam flow hood design for cheap :)
YES!!!!
Got my start a couple years ago with PF Tek from some very old forum links.
I used an old style cheese grater to break up the cakes and used your Coir CVG tutorial.
After my 1st 8 half-pint jars of that round I had zero contamination until the third flush on both of my shoeboxes.
Then I did your broke boi Tek spawned to CVG and never looked back to PF for all of its labor and time.
Got an Instant Pot and I’m about to try Popcorn spawned to CVG.
I’ll add that I’ve only used 5 spore syringes in the last 2 years for the projects (I medicate solo and infrequently, and gave half my fruits to friends).
I look forward to trying some more of your tutorials, and thank you for providing so much knowledge in exceptionally easy to digest tutorials.
Nice dude!!! I was having a lot of issues with trych, I stopped using spores and started using live liquid culture. The difference is like night and day. Also, I got a uv-c led germicidal lamp. It seems to be working.
Could you tell us what kind of uv lamp you got? And why you didn't get another type? I was thinking something like that would help me in the contamination-soaked town I live in.
Much love!
Thank you mate. I'm just starting my journey into the world of microbiology and loving it. Question: can you grow golden teachers in the bucket method or is it best to do the shoebox method?
Its literally so crazy i was just checking out your channel for the First time in a long while and u posted today what are the odds
Hey PGT, great content! What kind of stainless shelves are those in front of the flow hood?
Thanks, I learned some things!
Keep it up Philly my brother
Missed you brother. Glad everything is good.
Another masterclass!
WB PGT !!
hope you are all good !!
Thank you! I did my first broke boi tek and it went really well. So far I have 2 very healthy jars, one contam, and one that didn’t have any spore growth. I threw the contam jar into my compost pile and boom, I see the mycelium growing back and making its way through the compost pile. 👍🏾
Nature is awesome lol
Very interesting sounds like a problem my friend had . This is a science project clean is the only way for real success..... We can do this PGT! ty hugs ..........
Had the same results from my compost pile as well. Nature proving she’s the best gardener of us all.
Hey question for anyone, if you don’t have any spore growth in a jar, do you have to throw it out?
@@isaactheonly304 I just ran across this issue. But there Vermiculite jars that I bought. So I had 8 of them that didn't take. I figured I didn't shake the spores up good enough. So I've experimented and I inoc them again. Days ago so I can't give you any results. But if it was Grain jars I would of just thrown it out. But you also want to make sure you waited long enough. Hope this helps.
I had a bag that didn’t take off so I tried again and it’s going smoothly so far no contamination
Thank you for sharing your knowledge
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Love your content and the t shirt I got from yer store :)
Your the Man Philly
Keep the videos coming
Phillygold! nice to see you again : ^ )
You da man philly!
youre awesome. Thank you
thank you! Tried to go bulk and gave up with trich. hauling too many 70gal bags full of bad grain...
Nice reflective dark agar in the petri dish. I had to go back for a second look to see who is in the reflection. 😃
Scary seeing this in my feed when I did my first bulk to fruiting conditions 2 days ago 😂
AWESOME! Dear Philly Golden Teacher, I'm brand new to all of this, been doing research on how to cultivate mushrooms and feel ready to buy some equipment and dive in. You saved me! Your videos are hands down the best advice and the best guide to do this. Forever grateful! I just found your videos a week ago and was bummed when I noticed your channel is dead, but I'm so happy you are back!
Exactly the same, I'm gathering all the info and list of equipment I think would be best and this channel is invaluable. Been doing so much research to make sure I get things right and don't end up wasting a shit load of money on equipment that's not suitable
@@marcusjay8103 are you in the US bro? I made like an Amazon list of stuff I will need. Most expensive is the pressure cooker but can get that for about 100 bucks
@@Andre-oc7gg Easy brother, appreciate the reply.
I'm in the UK sadly and pressure cookers are through the roof. I plan to be doing unicorn bags then spawning to bulk CVG.
I plan on setting up a grow tent with 2x 4 tier racks full of trays (I plan on spreading the love 😉) and also plan on setting up a 1mx1m grow tent strictly for inoculation and hopefully agar work. Plan on having my laminar cabinet in there along with a genuine Hepa filter air purifier I plan on running for an hour before doing any work in there... First doing a 70% ISO wipe down of absolutely everything,then have the air purifier running and the laminar cabinet.
I've found an awesome guy on etsy who sells pre-sterilised grain bags. We've become good friends and he's going to actually help me build my laminar cabinet and while saving to put that whole tent together he's offered to sterilise grain for me for free, I just have to buy ingredients and pay for shipping and he's happy to do me 10-12 bags of millet at a time and ship them to me, even happy to inoculate them as he also sells cultures and is happy for me to send him cultures to use for me. Couldn't ask for a nicer guy to mentor me, he's been growing for over 15yrs and had thousands of positive reviews on the products he sells so he definitely knows what he's doing.
I'm also in the process of learning to cook up DMT as well to make Vape carts and changa... I'm really eager to try Micro-dosing to see if I can cut down or get off the meds I've been on for years.
I think the hardest part is going to be setting up the 'clean room' tent... As I don't think I'll have too many issues once I get the inoculated bags back and they colonise, from what I've heard and read if you can get to that stage and spread to bulk in the cleanest environment you can, the mycelium is pretty hardy and stable once established so while I'm working on saving up for a decent pressure cooker and building my flow cabinet I have access to ready to use grain so I can get growing ASAP and slowly build the set up how I want it.
I have a 246sqft room that thankfully is hard floored and will be perfect to set up a large tent for my fruiting chamber and then a small tent as my 'clean room'.
Been advised to shave, shower wear a tyvek suit and mask straight out the shower when doing anything like agar work or working with open bags. Also gonna be starting with what's considered some of the easiest and most forgiving strains like GT's and B+ but would also like to try and grow some medicinal strains and not just psychoactive strains (though TBH that's obviously why I'm doing it! I absolutely can't stand the taste of mushrooms 😂). What kinda strains are you looking at growing yourself and what set up are you planning? Bulk substrate? , BRF cakes?
Would be cool to keep in contact and see how our plans play out and our journey to shroom-success.
Much love and peace brother!
Namaste 🙏
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This is the same kinda size pressure cooker I'd like, but over here I'm looking at £300+ ($400-ish) plus a lot of them have £70-100 delivery as they are from the USA, then I have 20% import tax on top of that 😑
Would be nice to be able to sell ready to use grow kits and at least recoup a little bit of the expense.
If you've found any really decent products my man then please, drop us a link. Always open to looking at alternatives to what ibee been looking at
Agree. I’m a rookie and PGT has been the best source of clear, concise instruction. 👍
Also one idea i would love to watch would be experiment type video’s! Like i have no idea what would happen if you mixed different spores syringes toether and then fruited them but i’d love to watch a video about it!
Fungus compete with each other. It would very likely fail if they were trying to grow in the same container. That competition is one main reason everything needs to be kept separate.
Thanks for the tips!
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Long time no see, great video
Heck yea!
yay youre back!!!
great tips thank you
Hey I'm new love your content. Can you do a video on UBs please