I've been looking into growing mushrooms for months, probably closer to a year. Everybody else makes it seem so complicated, but you have eased my anxieties and I jumped right in after finding your channel. I'm now only a couple days away from fruiting my very first tub of mushrooms. I cannot thank you enough. I've found a new hobby 😁
that’s awesome. I just started my journey too. I inoculated 2 grow bags yesterday and have some grain jars arriving today to get a those inoculated with another spore strain. I couldn’t find any sellers around my parts, i’m in a very rural area so i just decided hell i will just grow myself. I can’t wait to get to the harvest and enjoy those babies. 😊
I thought it was a digital filter. Then I heard him talk on a podcast. And he does actually sound like a pilot informing you of the fight conditions. 😂
Love these videos. For anyone who has primordia without any pinning (for several days) I recommend adding a layer or vermiculite casing. I’ve done 6 tubs of GT, maintaining temp at avg 76 degrees F and RH of 99% and each of the 6 tubs didn’t pin until after the vermiculite dusting/layer. All of them began pinning within 2 days of the vermiculite. Food for thought.
Also important to note that not all 6 were grown at the same time but the results were the same, following the dusting of vermiculite. I’m no professional, just providing my feedback/personal results.
After I dunked for my second flush, nothing happened for a week and a half. Turned out I stuff the poly fill too tight. As soon as I loosened it I saw pins the very next day. But it's as loose as it can be in all holes, once this tub is done I'll make 2 extra holes.
It is working really well with the avoiding discussion of "active" mushrooms, and instead just keeping it generic. May your channel live long and prosper!
Thanks to your videos, I finally have my first pins! I'm so excited! I have 7 shoeboxes going; 4 that I started on 11/25, and 3 that I started on 12/4. The 2 boxes that have pinned are from 12/4, and the other boxes have lots of white blobs, but no pins yet. All came from the same liquid culture that I put first to agar and then popcorn jars, then CVG in the shoeboxes. I don't see signs of contamination and all of them have a good strong mushroom smell. Will the other boxes eventually pin?
I never could get it to work that way . Had to switch to the no touch mono tub option. Your teaching has helped to change my life in a huge way. Thank you 😊
It's winter in the NW so I keep my house at 68 degrees but not everywhere is 68 degrees. Mostly it is 66 degrees during the day and 64 degrees at night. I have tried using a seedling heating pad to keep the temperature at 72 degrees but I have had no success with fruiting. Any advice? I am tired of dealing with the side effects of SSRIs and want a natural solution with microdosing. Also, what about humidy and lighting levels?
Some people I've seen never open the tub until fruiting , what works best for me is as soon as primordia(pins) I open the tub flip the lid and fan and mist 2 to 3 times a day , also use a window for light
My house is between 50 and 65 during the winter. Usually 55 to 60, not much time above 60. I still get great results, but it usually takes about 6 weeks from spawn to harvest. So... you can still save energy and grow mushrooms.
That is such good news! My condo is a consistent 66.3 degrees and my tubs/shoeboxes will not colonize, just spotty growth for weeks, then all of the sudden, contamination :-( So I added a space heater and now it feels like the tubs are drying out, I can't win.
@@HeyRaeSunnyDayWhile 66 is colder than the temps you will read about online, that's plenty warm IME. When it comes to heaters, I've done better just letting it be cold; I seemed to have a lot of contamination problems when using a space heater. I felt like it helped the contam grow more than the mushrooms. However, I was working with a shitty culture at the time that may have had some kind of bacteria or parasitic fungus hiding in the mycelium, so that may have been the problem. Also, my heater was kind of blowing hot air at the tubs rather than just increasing the ambient temperature. I've found that a higher spawn ratio helps things move along when growing in the winter,. using 2 quarts of spawn per shoebox instead of 1. I am by no means an expert, but I very highly doubt that temp is your problem if things are contaminating before a good flush @66. I suspect that you aren't working with a clean culture or there is a problem with your grain. I had a lot of problems when using lids with tyvek or micropore tape. Do you have a pressure canner to cook the heck out of the grains? Are you using multispore, agar, or LC? I had something hiding in my agar plates that I just kept transferring. Looking at pics on the shroomery I was finally able to figure it out.
@@AcrylicGoblin Thankyou AG for this thought-provoking ultra helpful answer. I too am pretty new to this, have studied extensively, read and now trying a variety of TEK to see what works. YES I am using MSS tested on Agar. YES, I'm steam sterilizing my grains (popcorn, BRF) and also trying UncleBens Tek with cultured Agar and zero luck. I really loathe micro-pour tape and don't trust it as most of my UBR bags to fully colonize but always (abouit 8 bags so far) with blue mold. (I'm tossing those into the garden and the squirrels are enjoying the grains) My jars are doing really well but completely stalled in my 3 bins, like nothing is happening except spotty colonization, and I too have a space heater "blowing" in the closet to warm it up. I really really like your idea of upping the spawn to sub ratio. I'm using oven pastuerized CVG about a 3:1 ratios of sub to grain, so that may be the drag too. I'm now trying to fruit right out of the jar with a gorgeous jar of pure fluffy white mycelium on popcorn, and sure enough blue Trich is showing up on the top layer of vermiculite. This all being said, I am not giving up! I must rethink my whole set and get focused on ONE tek and perfect that. If you read this far into my monoloque here, I am forever grateful, thank you for listening. This is NOT a spectator sport 🙂 Mush Love, my friend.
@@HeyRaeSunnyDay I'm happy to try and help. I went through an astounding amount of failure before any success, so I understand how hard it can be at first. No squirrels here, but I made a mountain of compost. Much like in the beginning, your cultivation methods are kind of all over the place. You are correct in saying that you need to pic a Tek and follow it through to success. I'd suggest giving up on the popcorn. I never had a single good harvest that started from popcorn and it's generally accepted to be the worst grain choice. Leave the Uncle Ben's to highschool kids trying to grow without their parents finding out. I use wild bird seed, it's been more successful for me than any of the other things I tried. A large part of my early failures came from following bad advice on RUclips. I wish this channel had been around at that time. PGT is probably the only channel on RUclips that I've seen offering consistent good advice. If you do an internet search for "shroomery simplified cultivation methods" you will find a link list of simple and effective teks. Bod's easy AF teks are a good way to go. The shroomery is the place to go to learn about this hobby. You don't need to post if you don't want to, just follow the teks from trusted cultivators. I found answers to all of my questions there.
I use 2 clips used to hang christmas lights on roof gutters to hold dub tubs together. I also glued small neodymium magnets under lip of 6&12 qt shoeboxes to help hold dubs together. Thank you for the time you put into these videos sir. 2 12 qt tubs 110g dry just on studying your teks 🍄👍
My first grow first flush, my mushrooms were incredibly hollow. I know that's how cubes are, but after my second flush at 65f, they beefed up. I'll always choose lower slower Temps instead of speed now.
@@rustyvessel5086He May got a Point tho, i have observed wild mushrooms that started to Tip over ones the Cap developed and opened abit, No cubes tho Edit. With warm weather that is
In all honestly you are THE trusted sensei on You Tube ,No bad infortions, Never .... Love your Reddit Channel too.Really ,when someone wants to go in micology, I said PGT . Thank you very much for taking the time for sharing real micology to the masses. I don't know you but I love you so much ! :)
Perfect timing on this video! About to put my very first tubs into fruiting conditions in the next few days and you helped me get em there! Mucho Gracias
I started growing mycology around 5 months ago always got contamination and never would get pins but today I finally looked and there was pins and some big ones to coming up and it's only 25% colonize but screw it I want some fruits! Thank you for the video it has helped me understand more about mycology. I'm so greatful I have fruits finally 😅
You never though to go to the library and read a book on mycology? Thats what every mycologist that went to a school did. They read books on biology and fungi. Seriously
@@FLORIDAMANIAM-he2lz Why are you so bitter about information in this being available here? Why can’t one use books and academic references… and RUclips as well?
I used bubble wrap tek and that helped to induce the pinning for me. Although not really doubling in size each day. I may need to look at upping the humidity or getting a Shroom grow light
I am starting my journey and I am so glad I found you a year ago when you first came to the scene, took me long enough but I a, finally starting and its mostly thanks to you!
Not all heroes wear capes! 👊 Do you think it would be cool to leave the excess CVG in the bucket for about another week, or should I toss it and start fresh. Not all my jars were a success, but I have a couple that are on their way. Thanks again for your help!
Hey man! ⚡⚒⚡⚒⚡ I think I can speak for us all in saying Thank You for all of your help and experience. You make a big difference in our community brother. Ty👊🏼
Ever since I started using a 6500k light, I've noticed that the mushrooms on the side closest to the light grow faster and larger than those on the other side of the tub. Definitely worth using one!
Hey how close do you put it to the substrate? I'm curious because I'm using a similar 2 ft t5 light. I've also used a 5000k led shop light but it doesn't work as well.
@@ForkFace2112 You get some people that attach lights inside the lids of their tubs, but that's overkill IMO. I have mine roughly 2 feet away from where my tubs are stacked. It's not really an exact science, as long as the light is within a couple feet and shining directly on to your shoeboxes/monotubs then you should be all good!
@@ForkFace2112tbh you dont even need anything high duty. One of those push pop closet lights that has adhesive on at the back works, you just gotta change the batteries every few days 🤷♂️
@@DankJesus420Amazon sells 6500 Kelvin LED strips that are 1ft long and come with 2 Strips per switch and they have a built in timer. They are cheap and work perfectly
At this point of the pinning, could you have no lid at all and just place the bin with no lid into a Martha tent or a grow tent that has a set/stable humidity / temp?
Hey so I got a question. I started my first round with a grow bag, got it to flowering period and its going excellent, however I'm having a problem, I rubber banded the bag but now that I'm in flowering I see it wasn't good enough and I've got side pins in a little air picket section. I'm kinda wondering what would be the best thing, should I rubber band it better and try to get the mycelium to reclaim it since they're small? Should I try to use like a bag and try to cover the sides from the light? Should I try to open the bag and just put the substrate in a monotub? Or maybe just cut into the bag were the pins are? Very intriguing and super excited to see the finished product! Thanks for all the help PGT!
Do you spray your sub/spawn mix before shutting the lid? I'm referring to when you first mix the sub and spawn together and before closing the lid for the first time. I'm getting mixed answers on this.
I'VE GOT PINS!!! OH MY GOSH THIS IS SO EXCITING!!!!!! THEY"E SO PRETTY!! I kinda went overboard >__> so I've got fourteen 5lb blocks going of 5 different phenotypes in a 4x8 tent, with a 4" vivosun fan and a 5 disc HoH mister. Humidity controlled with an Inkbird. But I've never grown a mushroom before and it's SO much fun!!!
@@travisduggins oh man, I've got lions mane fruiting, pink oysters and pioppino. Its incredible how much they grow in just one day! I wish I could post pictures, its so exciting.
@@travisduggins So, when my blocks were nicely myceliated and white through and through, I put them to fruit but I had just heard a lot and didn't really know what I was doing. It took me a couple weeks to figure out that they need ~95% humidity AND regular fresh air exchange with high O2; not just one, then occasionally the other. Once I got the fan and the humidifier running automated and everything dialed in... everything just exploded in pins. The lions mane is balling up along the places I sliced the sides of the block, and the oysters are exploding out of the cuts as well. I'm amazed at how FAST they grow, it's incredible how much they can progress in just a day. I originally started the off trying to grow in-vitro (inside the bags) and it just wasn't working out for some reason. I ended up wrapping them tight, taping and slicing while getting a good inch or so into the substrate. When they're done in the bag (hoodie tek style) I'm really not sure what's supposed to start the growth.
I just began being interested and my interest grew quickly. I found some chantrelle mushrooms today. I want to grow my own. I wish so much that more videos described the type of mushroom they are growing 😊
I do right before or shortly after. If you wait too long you'll see spores falling onto mycelium which will suppress pins to grow in the future for that area
You're the man! Thanks sensei, I've only known large totes, but i wanted to try the smaller tote, but i wasn't sure how or when to introduce the dubtub. From agar to fruit, you're so awesome at breaking it down so people can make it happen
First grow attempt, thought i lost my mycelium in spawn bag after last shake, was gonna let it brew a few more days but the dog got it, ripped it open etc. I went ahead to putting in substrate, expecting contam but none so far, got nice white coverage across the surface after a week. The box is warm and moist, not sure if i should mist it with condensation on the lid. Excited but patient.. we will see how it turns out, thanks for the info! Growing hillbilly strain based on whst i read of its description and my overall needs/purposes/learning curve .
One out of my five rice bags colonised without contamination. The one that was OK has gone growing mad in my substrate tub 😛 Great fun watching your uploads.
Look up that handle 👆 he's got the best tips and stuff for micro-dosing shrooms, psych meds, DMT trips, psilocybin, and ships too. I'd recommend it to anyone.
Back in the day when The Shroomery was hip it was popular to put the shoe box in a larger tub that had a perlite/vermiculite mix in the bottom (isolated from the tub) to keep a fairly constant humidity level in the whole environment. How times have changed.
Called a double tub and its just making 1 big cake. The smaller tub serves no other use them to hold the substrate. It could sit on foil if it would hold together
Great video....what was the name of the mister you used to moisten the mycelium? Sounded like you said Firesol Misticker, but i can't find anything online called that...thanks
Hey bro loving the info your giving out. Wanted to ask u about fungus gnats I've started to get some in the tub how do I get rid of them still early stages just started to fruit. Hope to hear back soon
@@philrichardson4984 Can you get a shroom kit with substrate and fruiting soil all in one for the psychedelic type of shrooms? I’ve messaged you twice just so you see it ✌️
@@philrichardson4984 Can you get a shroom kit with substrate and fruiting soil all in one for the psychedelic type of shrooms? I’ve messaged you twice just so you see it ✌️
What kind of water do you use to spray? I wasn’t sure if sink water was ok ..from the fluoride in the water.. would distilled water be good? 🙏🏻😉❤️🍄❤️🍄❤️🍄
let me just start out by saying youve helped me more then any spurce and pretty much exclusively use your tips. with that being said ive noticed i dont see you use grow lights and have heard mixed tgings on the subject. have you noticed any difference when using grow lights?
you can always squeeze the extra water out with your hands for perfect field capacity before placing it in the tub. especially if your doing little shoe boxes.
What do you do with all the little pins and tiny fruits after you pick first flush? Do you let them continue on or should you pick them all and start the second flush with no fruits of pins showing? Many thanks in advance!
So after you mix your colonized grain with your substrate into a monotub do you put a 12/12 light cycle on it straight away or do you give it more time in the dark to further colonize? It’s my first time growing I would apriciate anyone with experience and information.
I dont have a good area to shoebox this way. Would a still air box be a good idea for all in one bags? My house gets real cold. Probably need to use a heat mat as well
Hello I inoculated a grow bag and say mycelium growth about 20% of the bag so I then did the break and shake and now a few weeks later the entire top layer is a blueish grayish color and some white spots as well. What shall I do to fix this? Is this a bad sign? Shall I throw this away and try again?
hey great videos subscription is here! Tell me I have a question, I eat edible mushrooms myself and have now ventured to others, for example the Goldem Teacher. can I only do this with coconut soil, so I did my grain spawn on coconut soil mono tube, it grows very well! I ask because I see that everyone is still making earth or peat? so do i have to do something else? my coconut soil was enriched with nutrients!🎉
Once in the fruiting conditions can you leave the top off if you are using a grow tent with a misting humidifier and temp control? RH 90% temp 77. I also have a fan in there to assist with FAE. Love the videos. Thank you
may i ask you some questions please, we need to keep the monotub in the fruting chamber or just in room and do golden teacher mushroom need a light to grow? thanks
Shoutout to PGT, hope you’re doing better bro and good look on turning me into a homemade mycologist in 2021 going into 2022 with the knowledge I have thanking you
Is it possible to go to fruiting to early? Newborn question I know. I have been in grow bags for around 6 weeks, so far all is good. Enjoy your videos, very helpful information. Thanks 👍🏻
Hey - thank you Sensi, Do you keep these tubs in a air conditioned room - is it ok in the garage? Or is it best in a controlled room environment with flow hoods & air con - and do you use tap water or purified to mist?
Yo Blackbeard3 : It pisses me off how some of these jerkoffs use any question or comment made here to try to SELL ! I have the same questions and still no answers. My comment was for PGT , why don't he reply ?
@Juana Basurto Yo read the comment AGAIN ! I'M NOT COMPLAINING ABOUT ANY REPLY/NO REPLY. I'm pissed at the jerkoffs who use his comments section to SELL + SHILL the products they want you to buy, Ok ?
@Juana Basurto DELETE the selling comments its not that hard OR he could simply use : Reply from PhillyGoldenTeacher, for his replies. Then readers could skip most of the replies here
Ideally you don't want direct heat. You want ambient heat. If you could put the heating pad near the tub in some way and not in contact with it, that would be good! Hope that helps! 🙏
It is very upsetting about the selling accounts, but there are so many accounts doing it that it is hard to keep track and delete them all. I try the best I can to remove as many as I can, and it's a constant neverending effort. They are also smart about it and will post on messages that were months prior, which is harder to reach and keep track of across multiple videos. It is very upsetting when people have questions that don't get answers, but I am one human who is doing the best I can with the time I am able to. I try to make these videos to give as much info as I can to help give people the answers to the questions. If you want more help, you could consider joining the discord community in about me tab of the channel, there are many willing to help! 🙏
Thats it I"m going to start tomorrow thanks to you and 90Sec n Stamets, had the pressure cooker for a month now sitting on the top shelf collecting dust after i scored a big one from an Asian importer. Going to get the wholegrain rice hopefully at wholesale prices tomorrow to start my mycelium madness. Indian or Chinese shop wholegrain rice normally good to use or is cheapest/dont matter or Costco/Super chain bs? Got sugar cane mulch or coco coir as a bulk substrate starter Can add organic coffee grounds and recycled paper pellets into the substrate mix to add more fuel but the ammonia is strong with a queen and stud After inoculating rice with spawn gonna put them in a sealed pvc tube 150mm wide 1.2 meter long covered holes with micropore tape. What size holes would you recommend and how far apart for optimum reflushability? The recycled paper is actuallg kitty litter pellets (no poo just m or f pee) Was thinking of growing every type if pink blue pearl mushroom however what is the most profitable mushroom one could grow in a reflushable tube that size with that possible substrate concoction? Thanks for giving me the real life stuff of Stamets work in action, you have just spawned a big step forward tomorrow on my fun... guy journey lol
I started getting careless and lost one of mine don’t over water it cause that will lead to major problems even a little over a watered! But lesson learned on my first one now I didn’t have casing layers on those they did well I put a casing layer (coco coir) to my other 3 grows they seem to take a little longer..
If you had to put an ideal number on temperature and humidity, what would they be? I heard 75 degrees Fahrenheit, but what able the humidity? 80%, 90%, 95%?
I do 85-95%. Fan and fine mist twice a day with an indirect fan blowing in the room. Provides enough fae while keeping humidity levels in optimum range
You helped me start my journey an will forever be apart of my mycology journey. Thank You. You have changed my life
@Mike Miles I got a local plug. Lol
Me too, loving this hobby... Not too mention the mental health benefits
Same here , bro I got so much medicine I had to stop growing for a bit lol
Same
same here😂😅
I've been looking into growing mushrooms for months, probably closer to a year. Everybody else makes it seem so complicated, but you have eased my anxieties and I jumped right in after finding your channel. I'm now only a couple days away from fruiting my very first tub of mushrooms. I cannot thank you enough. I've found a new hobby 😁
Enjoy
Your only regret will be to not have started before my friend hahahaha
Isn’t it so satisfying to grow your own mushies? ❤
that’s awesome. I just started my journey too. I inoculated 2 grow bags yesterday and have some grain jars arriving today to get a those inoculated with another spore strain. I couldn’t find any sellers around my parts, i’m in a very rural area so i just decided hell i will just grow myself. I can’t wait to get to the harvest and enjoy those babies. 😊
@@GingeReneeso how are things going after a month? What did you grow?
@@travishada7482 mold and trich.
PGT you are literally a gift to humanity. Just harvested my first shoebox thanks to you. You and Hamilton Morris have changed my life.
Hamilton ❤️❤️❤️🍄
was the temperature around the box an issue? What did u do to keep the heat in your growing space?
@@kimberlyfichtl4644blanket prolly
Can change your own life if you use your own mind
Hamilton for sure, he helped open my eyes
Is it me or does this guy sound exactly like a pilot talking to his passengers after landing a plane. 💀
Wow that’s spot on
😂
I thought it was a digital filter. Then I heard him talk on a podcast. And he does actually sound like a pilot informing you of the fight conditions. 😂
Exactly 😅
I mean taking a trip and all
Man I'm just coming back here almost 3 years later to say thank you... 3yrs going strong. You helped change my life
I've watched a ton of videos on mycology. Some people are gifted teachers and you are most definitely one of them. Thank you for the videos teacher!
PGT the GOAT..You inspired me years ago and I'm still growing all kinds of 🍄. Thank you PGT
Love these videos. For anyone who has primordia without any pinning (for several days) I recommend adding a layer or vermiculite casing. I’ve done 6 tubs of GT, maintaining temp at avg 76 degrees F and RH of 99% and each of the 6 tubs didn’t pin until after the vermiculite dusting/layer. All of them began pinning within 2 days of the vermiculite. Food for thought.
Also important to note that not all 6 were grown at the same time but the results were the same, following the dusting of vermiculite. I’m no professional, just providing my feedback/personal results.
You didn't have enough evaporation bud.
@@ghost-carnage8964 interesting. Even though the lids are flipped and 3x day fanning/ fine misting? Maybe I should try no lid?
@@myspam7353 yeah I don't believe that bud.
After I dunked for my second flush, nothing happened for a week and a half. Turned out I stuff the poly fill too tight. As soon as I loosened it I saw pins the very next day. But it's as loose as it can be in all holes, once this tub is done I'll make 2 extra holes.
Omg, this is the best and easiest explanation I've come across, other channels make it so complicated to follow
It is working really well with the avoiding discussion of "active" mushrooms, and instead just keeping it generic.
May your channel live long and prosper!
Ever since I saw your videos over a year ago still using this method today and it works great
Thanks to your videos, I finally have my first pins! I'm so excited! I have 7 shoeboxes going; 4 that I started on 11/25, and 3 that I started on 12/4. The 2 boxes that have pinned are from 12/4, and the other boxes have lots of white blobs, but no pins yet. All came from the same liquid culture that I put first to agar and then popcorn jars, then CVG in the shoeboxes. I don't see signs of contamination and all of them have a good strong mushroom smell. Will the other boxes eventually pin?
I never could get it to work that way .
Had to switch to the no touch mono tub option.
Your teaching has helped to change my life in a huge way.
Thank you 😊
It's winter in the NW so I keep my house at 68 degrees but not everywhere is 68 degrees. Mostly it is 66 degrees during the day and 64 degrees at night. I have tried using a seedling heating pad to keep the temperature at 72 degrees but I have had no success with fruiting. Any advice? I am tired of dealing with the side effects of SSRIs and want a natural solution with microdosing. Also, what about humidy and lighting levels?
Some people I've seen never open the tub until fruiting , what works best for me is as soon as primordia(pins) I open the tub flip the lid and fan and mist 2 to 3 times a day , also use a window for light
Thank you so much. I'm new to growing and have had real issues with other methods - your videos are so clear and uncomplicated. Greatly appreciated!
My house is between 50 and 65 during the winter. Usually 55 to 60, not much time above 60. I still get great results, but it usually takes about 6 weeks from spawn to harvest.
So... you can still save energy and grow mushrooms.
That is such good news! My condo is a consistent 66.3 degrees and my tubs/shoeboxes will not colonize, just spotty growth for weeks, then all of the sudden, contamination :-( So I added a space heater and now it feels like the tubs are drying out, I can't win.
@@HeyRaeSunnyDayWhile 66 is colder than the temps you will read about online, that's plenty warm IME. When it comes to heaters, I've done better just letting it be cold; I seemed to have a lot of contamination problems when using a space heater. I felt like it helped the contam grow more than the mushrooms. However, I was working with a shitty culture at the time that may have had some kind of bacteria or parasitic fungus hiding in the mycelium, so that may have been the problem. Also, my heater was kind of blowing hot air at the tubs rather than just increasing the ambient temperature.
I've found that a higher spawn ratio helps things move along when growing in the winter,. using 2 quarts of spawn per shoebox instead of 1.
I am by no means an expert, but I very highly doubt that temp is your problem if things are contaminating before a good flush @66.
I suspect that you aren't working with a clean culture or there is a problem with your grain. I had a lot of problems when using lids with tyvek or micropore tape. Do you have a pressure canner to cook the heck out of the grains? Are you using multispore, agar, or LC?
I had something hiding in my agar plates that I just kept transferring. Looking at pics on the shroomery I was finally able to figure it out.
@@AcrylicGoblin Thankyou AG for this thought-provoking ultra helpful answer. I too am pretty new to this, have studied extensively, read and now trying a variety of TEK to see what works. YES I am using MSS tested on Agar. YES, I'm steam sterilizing my grains (popcorn, BRF) and also trying UncleBens Tek with cultured Agar and zero luck. I really loathe micro-pour tape and don't trust it as most of my UBR bags to fully colonize but always (abouit 8 bags so far) with blue mold. (I'm tossing those into the garden and the squirrels are enjoying the grains) My jars are doing really well but completely stalled in my 3 bins, like nothing is happening except spotty colonization, and I too have a space heater "blowing" in the closet to warm it up.
I really really like your idea of upping the spawn to sub ratio. I'm using oven pastuerized CVG about a 3:1 ratios of sub to grain, so that may be the drag too.
I'm now trying to fruit right out of the jar with a gorgeous jar of pure fluffy white mycelium on popcorn, and sure enough blue Trich is showing up on the top layer of vermiculite. This all being said, I am not giving up! I must rethink my whole set and get focused on ONE tek and perfect that.
If you read this far into my monoloque here, I am forever grateful, thank you for listening. This is NOT a spectator sport 🙂 Mush Love, my friend.
@@HeyRaeSunnyDay I'm happy to try and help. I went through an astounding amount of failure before any success, so I understand how hard it can be at first. No squirrels here, but I made a mountain of compost.
Much like in the beginning, your cultivation methods are kind of all over the place. You are correct in saying that you need to pic a Tek and follow it through to success.
I'd suggest giving up on the popcorn. I never had a single good harvest that started from popcorn and it's generally accepted to be the worst grain choice. Leave the Uncle Ben's to highschool kids trying to grow without their parents finding out. I use wild bird seed, it's been more successful for me than any of the other things I tried.
A large part of my early failures came from following bad advice on RUclips. I wish this channel had been around at that time. PGT is probably the only channel on RUclips that I've seen offering consistent good advice.
If you do an internet search for "shroomery simplified cultivation methods" you will find a link list of simple and effective teks. Bod's easy AF teks are a good way to go. The shroomery is the place to go to learn about this hobby. You don't need to post if you don't want to, just follow the teks from trusted cultivators. I found answers to all of my questions there.
@@AcrylicGoblin Beautiful advice, I will follow it, gratefully.
I use 2 clips used to hang christmas lights on roof gutters to hold dub tubs together. I also glued small neodymium magnets under lip of 6&12 qt shoeboxes to help hold dubs together. Thank you for the time you put into these videos sir. 2 12 qt tubs 110g dry just on studying your teks 🍄👍
Creative 😄 glad you found what works for you! Thank you for being a part of this journey! 🙏
Do you HAVE to dub tub tho??
My first grow first flush, my mushrooms were incredibly hollow. I know that's how cubes are, but after my second flush at 65f, they beefed up. I'll always choose lower slower Temps instead of speed now.
Good to know, thanks!
2nd, 3rd, and 4th flushes typically always produce larger sized fruits in general
interesting.
@@rustyvessel5086He May got a Point tho, i have observed wild mushrooms that started to Tip over ones the Cap developed and opened abit, No cubes tho
Edit. With warm weather that is
I thought its less, the mycelium is getting old @rustyvessel5086
I started with shoeboxs now I use 80qt bins and they are packed in there so tight it's hard to harvest thanks for the help in the beginning
That's amazing. Congrats on such a successful harvest! 😄
This is my first time doing this and thanks to your method, I’m starting to fruit! Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge
In all honestly you are THE trusted sensei on You Tube ,No bad infortions, Never ....
Love your Reddit Channel too.Really ,when someone wants to go in micology, I said PGT .
Thank you very much for taking the time for sharing real micology to the masses.
I don't know you but I love you so much !
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Perfect timing on this video! About to put my very first tubs into fruiting conditions in the next few days and you helped me get em there! Mucho Gracias
Well… how’s it going?
I’m about to put my very spawn bag into tubs! Lol
can you make a video about how to prepare a tub/substrate for the 2nd flush?
it's on my channel in my broke boi playlist
@@PhillyGoldenTeacher thanks!
I started growing mycology around 5 months ago always got contamination and never would get pins but today I finally looked and there was pins and some big ones to coming up and it's only 25% colonize but screw it I want some fruits! Thank you for the video it has helped me understand more about mycology. I'm so greatful I have fruits finally 😅
You never though to go to the library and read a book on mycology? Thats what every mycologist that went to a school did. They read books on biology and fungi. Seriously
Don't fruit until it's 100colonize... Hipe the shrooms teach u that 😂
@@FLORIDAMANIAM-he2lz Why are you so bitter about information in this being available here? Why can’t one use books and academic references… and RUclips as well?
I used bubble wrap tek and that helped to induce the pinning for me. Although not really doubling in size each day. I may need to look at upping the humidity or getting a Shroom grow light
When looking for ways to grow, I've seen a lot of variations.
I think I like yours the most.
The water in the flairosol mister. Is it straight from tap or sterilized?
I've definitely been misting to little Watching this man unload lmao
Unload😂😂
Just did my first PGT style shoebox three days ago. Much love sensei
Is it helpful to lay a sheet of waxed paper over the substrate for the first 10 days?
Very clear explanations. Thank you. You worked as a airline pilot before?
Myco labs makes a 10 dollar led grow light that i plug into a extension cord and its perfect. Its cheap and designed well. Would mos def recommend it
I am starting my journey and I am so glad I found you a year ago when you first came to the scene, took me long enough but I a, finally starting and its mostly thanks to you!
Not all heroes wear capes! 👊 Do you think it would be cool to leave the excess CVG in the bucket for about another week, or should I toss it and start fresh. Not all my jars were a success, but I have a couple that are on their way. Thanks again for your help!
Big QUESTION does colonizing substrate need gas exchange??
Noooo
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I think I can speak for us all in saying Thank You for all of your help and experience. You make a big difference in our community brother. Ty👊🏼
2:50 Only do this until knots/pins start coming in?
Ever since I started using a 6500k light, I've noticed that the mushrooms on the side closest to the light grow faster and larger than those on the other side of the tub. Definitely worth using one!
Hey how close do you put it to the substrate? I'm curious because I'm using a similar 2 ft t5 light. I've also used a 5000k led shop light but it doesn't work as well.
@@ForkFace2112 You get some people that attach lights inside the lids of their tubs, but that's overkill IMO. I have mine roughly 2 feet away from where my tubs are stacked. It's not really an exact science, as long as the light is within a couple feet and shining directly on to your shoeboxes/monotubs then you should be all good!
@@ForkFace2112tbh you dont even need anything high duty. One of those push pop closet lights that has adhesive on at the back works, you just gotta change the batteries every few days 🤷♂️
@@ForkFace2112as close as you can without it throwing off your temps. I use a CFL about a foot away.
@@DankJesus420Amazon sells 6500 Kelvin LED strips that are 1ft long and come with 2 Strips per switch and they have a built in timer. They are cheap and work perfectly
At this point of the pinning, could you have no lid at all and just place the bin with no lid into a Martha tent or a grow tent that has a set/stable humidity / temp?
I done a few flushes back in 2005 this channel has me wanting to get back to it
I'm not understanding the need for a liner inside your tub. Does it just make it easier to clean, or does it have a function ? Thanks for the video !
If you don’t they will grow underneath and lift the brick trust it’s worth not skipping bro
@@mintislad3900 if you maintain proper surface conditions and pack your cake very nicely you should rarely have any issues with side pins.
Hey so I got a question. I started my first round with a grow bag, got it to flowering period and its going excellent, however I'm having a problem, I rubber banded the bag but now that I'm in flowering I see it wasn't good enough and I've got side pins in a little air picket section. I'm kinda wondering what would be the best thing, should I rubber band it better and try to get the mycelium to reclaim it since they're small? Should I try to use like a bag and try to cover the sides from the light? Should I try to open the bag and just put the substrate in a monotub? Or maybe just cut into the bag were the pins are? Very intriguing and super excited to see the finished product! Thanks for all the help PGT!
Great video! Do you have a link for the water spray bottle?
Do you spray your sub/spawn mix before shutting the lid? I'm referring to when you first mix the sub and spawn together and before closing the lid for the first time. I'm getting mixed answers on this.
Just started s2b, this info is going to help me so much
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I love how you made two little side pins on the thumbnail art
I'VE GOT PINS!!! OH MY GOSH THIS IS SO EXCITING!!!!!! THEY"E SO PRETTY!!
I kinda went overboard >__> so I've got fourteen 5lb blocks going of 5 different phenotypes in a 4x8 tent, with a 4" vivosun fan and a 5 disc HoH mister. Humidity controlled with an Inkbird. But I've never grown a mushroom before and it's SO much fun!!!
@@travisduggins oh man, I've got lions mane fruiting, pink oysters and pioppino.
Its incredible how much they grow in just one day! I wish I could post pictures, its so exciting.
@@travisduggins So, when my blocks were nicely myceliated and white through and through, I put them to fruit but I had just heard a lot and didn't really know what I was doing.
It took me a couple weeks to figure out that they need ~95% humidity AND regular fresh air exchange with high O2; not just one, then occasionally the other. Once I got the fan and the humidifier running automated and everything dialed in... everything just exploded in pins. The lions mane is balling up along the places I sliced the sides of the block, and the oysters are exploding out of the cuts as well.
I'm amazed at how FAST they grow, it's incredible how much they can progress in just a day.
I originally started the off trying to grow in-vitro (inside the bags) and it just wasn't working out for some reason. I ended up wrapping them tight, taping and slicing while getting a good inch or so into the substrate. When they're done in the bag (hoodie tek style) I'm really not sure what's supposed to start the growth.
I like how ya misted the lid and put it on the outside of the container hehe :)
I just began being interested and my interest grew quickly. I found some chantrelle mushrooms today. I want to grow my own. I wish so much that more videos described the type of mushroom they are growing 😊
is it safe to use tap water to mist it? I'd be worried of getting contamination
Yes but distilled is better lower risk
You were the first man that helped me understand and took time to answer my questions!! Your a great man! And I’m growing killer fruits knock on work
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When should I harvest? Before the veils break or just after?
I do right before or shortly after. If you wait too long you'll see spores falling onto mycelium which will suppress pins to grow in the future for that area
but teacher what is that jazzy air gear type tune behind this lesson you blessed us with again
You are the best. Clear, simple accurate. Thank you.
You are the best. I wouldn't be able to do this without this wonderful community! 😊
Do u use a heat source still for fruiting? Like keeping the room at 75° while its fruiting?
I also need to know this to
I have an all in one bag. The mycelium is growing. Trying to keep it simple for now. Great video.🙏
Wish you the best on your journey! 🙏🍄
What light and how much did you use?
Im guessing that im humid ass Houston i wont need to do much misting? Yot everything i need to start just waiting on the LCs and grain bags.
You're the man! Thanks sensei, I've only known large totes, but i wanted to try the smaller tote, but i wasn't sure how or when to introduce the dubtub. From agar to fruit, you're so awesome at breaking it down so people can make it happen
With the dub tubs, the top tub you can make tiny holes and leave them open as an alt mod. Works well.
First grow attempt, thought i lost my mycelium in spawn bag after last shake, was gonna let it brew a few more days but the dog got it, ripped it open etc. I went ahead to putting in substrate, expecting contam but none so far, got nice white coverage across the surface after a week. The box is warm and moist, not sure if i should mist it with condensation on the lid. Excited but patient.. we will see how it turns out, thanks for the info! Growing hillbilly strain based on whst i read of its description and my overall needs/purposes/learning curve .
After my first flush should I get ride of the dub tub. And put the opaque lid back on
One out of my five rice bags colonised without contamination. The one that was OK has gone growing mad in my substrate tub 😛 Great fun watching your uploads.
Look up that handle 👆 he's got the best tips and stuff for micro-dosing shrooms, psych meds, DMT trips, psilocybin, and ships too. I'd recommend it to anyone.
Same happened to me. I had 1 out of the 5 that actually colonized wo contamination. I just put it in the substrate....fingers crossed.
Back in the day when The Shroomery was hip it was popular to put the shoe box in a larger tub that had a perlite/vermiculite mix in the bottom (isolated from the tub) to keep a fairly constant humidity level in the whole environment. How times have changed.
Called a double tub and its just making 1 big cake. The smaller tub serves no other use them to hold the substrate. It could sit on foil if it would hold together
Great video....what was the name of the mister you used to moisten the mycelium? Sounded like you said Firesol Misticker, but i can't find anything online called that...thanks
Hey bro loving the info your giving out. Wanted to ask u about fungus gnats I've started to get some in the tub how do I get rid of them still early stages just started to fruit. Hope to hear back soon
Seen a yt vid that said to mist lighty with veg oil i had a second flush die off from ghats seems the larvae eat the mycelium
@@philrichardson4984 Can you get a shroom kit with substrate and fruiting soil all in one for the psychedelic type of shrooms?
I’ve messaged you twice just so you see it ✌️
@@philrichardson4984 Can you get a shroom kit with substrate and fruiting soil all in one for the psychedelic type of shrooms?
I’ve messaged you twice just so you see it ✌️
Hello, very nice video, thank you! Does this method work without additional fan and humidifier please if you use pf tek cakes instead of substrate?
Watch this video almost everyday now that I'm getting pins. So much great info!
What kind of water do you use to spray? I wasn’t sure if sink water was ok ..from the fluoride in the water.. would distilled water be good? 🙏🏻😉❤️🍄❤️🍄❤️🍄
i would use filtered water but boil it to kill and bacteria, a little flouride isnt too harmful
let me just start out by saying youve helped me more then any spurce and pretty much exclusively use your tips. with that being said ive noticed i dont see you use grow lights and have heard mixed tgings on the subject. have you noticed any difference when using grow lights?
Would you suggest bumping the water ratio from 3.5 quarts to one brick of coir to 4qt for someone who lives in the desert?
depending on the brand of the coir, you'll have to play around with the amount of water and aim for that field capacity area.
you can always squeeze the extra water out with your hands for perfect field capacity before placing it in the tub. especially if your doing little shoe boxes.
So helpful and very well explained. Thank you friend
What do you do with all the little pins and tiny fruits after you pick first flush? Do you let them continue on or should you pick them all and start the second flush with no fruits of pins showing? Many thanks in advance!
Those are aborts I snatch them out with the big ones rehydrate and prepare for next flush
So after you mix your colonized grain with your substrate into a monotub do you put a 12/12 light cycle on it straight away or do you give it more time in the dark to further colonize? It’s my first time growing I would apriciate anyone with experience and information.
The only light they need is to grow straight up.
I dont have a good area to shoebox this way. Would a still air box be a good idea for all in one bags? My house gets real cold. Probably need to use a heat mat as well
absolutely goated videos really appreciate you helping us be safe 🙏🏽
Hello I inoculated a grow bag and say mycelium growth about 20% of the bag so I then did the break and shake and now a few weeks later the entire top layer is a blueish grayish color and some white spots as well. What shall I do to fix this? Is this a bad sign? Shall I throw this away and try again?
Your videos are the best! Thanks 😊
hey great videos subscription is here! Tell me I have a question, I eat edible mushrooms myself and have now ventured to others, for example the Goldem Teacher. can I only do this with coconut soil, so I did my grain spawn on coconut soil mono tube, it grows very well! I ask because I see that everyone is still making earth or peat? so do i have to do something else? my coconut soil was enriched with nutrients!🎉
Hey Philly my guy! Just sprouted the other day, thank you for everything G.
Great tutorial! there's any video about side pinning?
Once in the fruiting conditions can you leave the top off if you are using a grow tent with a misting humidifier and temp control? RH 90% temp 77. I also have a fan in there to assist with FAE. Love the videos. Thank you
I love your videos. I come back to reference them a lot. Great job on the content. I love the logo as well. Do you have merch?
Life has been so much morn interesting and exciting since I found your videos, thanks
may i ask you some questions please,
we need to keep the monotub in the fruting chamber or just in room
and do golden teacher mushroom need a light to grow?
thanks
Do you fruit the mushrooms in a dark place?
thanks fof the video man, i watch acouple and ppl were saying to drop the temp to like 70 or lower to bring forth the pinning stage
How to deal with cooler than ideal fae? Can I use a heat mat along with this type setup to keep substrate warm enough.
Shoutout to PGT, hope you’re doing better bro and good look on turning me into a homemade mycologist in 2021 going into 2022 with the knowledge I have thanking you
Wish I had some they work wonders for migraines!!!
Thanks for the informational video. Can they grow in ambient temperatures of 27-29C?
Is it possible to go to fruiting to early? Newborn question I know. I have been in grow bags for around 6 weeks, so far all is good. Enjoy your videos, very helpful information. Thanks 👍🏻
Hey - thank you Sensi,
Do you keep these tubs in a air conditioned room - is it ok in the garage? Or is it best in a controlled room environment with flow hoods & air con - and do you use tap water or purified to mist?
Should you use a warming pad from start to finish? My thought would be leaving a pad under the tub in the 70-80 degrees range would help
Yo Blackbeard3 : It pisses me off how some of these jerkoffs use any question or comment made here to try to SELL ! I have the same questions and still no answers. My comment was for PGT , why don't he reply ?
@Juana Basurto Yo read the comment AGAIN ! I'M NOT COMPLAINING ABOUT ANY REPLY/NO REPLY. I'm pissed at the jerkoffs who use his comments section to SELL + SHILL the products they want you to buy, Ok ?
@Juana Basurto DELETE the selling comments its not that hard OR he could simply use : Reply from PhillyGoldenTeacher, for his replies. Then readers could skip most of the replies here
Ideally you don't want direct heat. You want ambient heat. If you could put the heating pad near the tub in some way and not in contact with it, that would be good! Hope that helps! 🙏
It is very upsetting about the selling accounts, but there are so many accounts doing it that it is hard to keep track and delete them all. I try the best I can to remove as many as I can, and it's a constant neverending effort. They are also smart about it and will post on messages that were months prior, which is harder to reach and keep track of across multiple videos. It is very upsetting when people have questions that don't get answers, but I am one human who is doing the best I can with the time I am able to. I try to make these videos to give as much info as I can to help give people the answers to the questions. If you want more help, you could consider joining the discord community in about me tab of the channel, there are many willing to help! 🙏
Unrelated question to this video, but is the liquid containing the spore be usable after half a year sitting in the fridge?
Would a coffee filter be ok to put over the holes in my mono tub? Instead of poly fill or micro tape.
Does the spray water need to be sterile? If so, can I just boil it for like 10-15 minutes before adding it to the bottle?
you can, it'll help reduce contam. typically water from the tap is fine too however. i use filtered water for my spray bottle.
@@PhillyGoldenTeacher alright awesome! I was worried about that. Thank you!
Thats it I"m going to start tomorrow thanks to you and 90Sec n Stamets, had the pressure cooker for a month now sitting on the top shelf collecting dust after i scored a big one from an Asian importer. Going to get the wholegrain rice hopefully at wholesale prices tomorrow to start my mycelium madness. Indian or Chinese shop wholegrain rice normally good to use or is cheapest/dont matter or Costco/Super chain bs?
Got sugar cane mulch or coco coir as a bulk substrate starter
Can add organic coffee grounds and recycled paper pellets into the substrate mix to add more fuel but the ammonia is strong with a queen and stud
After inoculating rice with spawn gonna put them in a sealed pvc tube 150mm wide 1.2 meter long covered holes with micropore tape. What size holes would you recommend and how far apart for optimum reflushability?
The recycled paper is actuallg kitty litter pellets (no poo just m or f pee)
Was thinking of growing every type if pink blue pearl mushroom however what is the most profitable mushroom one could grow in a reflushable tube that size with that possible substrate concoction?
Thanks for giving me the real life stuff of Stamets work in action, you have just spawned a big step forward tomorrow on my fun... guy journey lol
I started getting careless and lost one of mine don’t over water it cause that will lead to major problems even a little over a watered! But lesson learned on my first one now I didn’t have casing layers on those they did well I put a casing layer (coco coir) to my other 3 grows they seem to take a little longer..
If you had to put an ideal number on temperature and humidity, what would they be? I heard 75 degrees Fahrenheit, but what able the humidity? 80%, 90%, 95%?
I do 85-95%. Fan and fine mist twice a day with an indirect fan blowing in the room. Provides enough fae while keeping humidity levels in optimum range